ñMax The First 100 Days Many people, we included, thought that the Clipper community should give CA a honeymoon period. This would allow them to assimilate Clipper into their organization before we started blaming them for all the faults still left in Clipper. The period of time mentioned most often was 100 days, similar to that supposedly given to a new president. Well, the 100 days are up on September 17th, and here is the NanForum Gang of Four's take on it. In our original report, it was mentioned that Technical Marketing was intact, and Brian Russell would be used as a company wide resource. Since that time, nothing else has been heard about Brian, and most of the Technical Marketing staff have moved on to other positions within development or testing. While this would normally be none of our business, it has resulted in less communication with the development community than there was before. In their Statement of Direction (SOD), CA promised betas of Clipper 5.2 by TechniCon (which at the time of the writing was assumed to be mid-October), and of Aspen by Comdex. We don't have any information to say these dates won't happen. A very bright spot in all this is that bug fixes for Clipper 5.01 (called 5.01a) have been released! Not only that, but they are available as patch files on CI$. So, on this front, CA has accomplished more in 100 days than Nantucket did in almost 100 weeks. Granted, a lot of the work on the bugs was done by Nantucket, but there was no indication that it was being done, and certainly no commitment to issue patch files on CI$. Some clarification is probably necessary here. Clipper 5.01 is the currently shipping version. 5.2 is an upgrade that will contain all the bug fixes to 5.01, some enhancements, and all new documentation. This is what CA has promised to start beta testing in October. 5.X is the full object-oriented, DLL aware, DOS based version that Nantucket has been promising as the next step. CA has said they will complete and release that version, but no time table was given. The product that Aspen becomes is the Windows(tm) based, object-oriented, integrated development environment that Nantucket first showed back in 1990. More information on these distinctions is available in the SOD. At our meeting, there was a lot of talk about development partnerships. Nothing else has come out about that. However, that may be one of the things that CA wants to stress at the upcoming TechniCon. They also indicated that they were going to be active on the dBase standards committee, but since nothing has been done on that issue from anywhere, we shouldn't expect to have heard any more about that. CA said that each user's group would be contacted, and a CA representative would attend meetings to answer any questions. Of the four of us, only Kansas City has not had such contact. There have been reports ranging from someone interested only in selling Clipper developers other CA products to reps trying to give straight answers to straight questions and learn more about Clipper and the people who use it, with the latter greatly outnumbering the former. There was also a lot of talk about training materials and other support for user groups. As far as we know, there has been no further contact about what is needed or how to produce it. In fact, the user group coordinator forum that CA sponsors has been eerily quiet until just recently. Most of the talk now centers on CA's plan to let each user group coordinator get in free to Technicon. While this is an improvement over Nantucket's policy of letting them in for half price, CA is not allowing an alternate to attend. Needless to say, this is upsetting to those groups whose coordinator cannot attend or is already getting in free as a speaker. Another case where CA made a policy before checking why it was done the way it was before. One of the things that impressed all of us at the original meeting was Charles Wang's "bull-by-the-horns" attitude, especially about authorizing new Clipper training centers. Nothing has come out of CA on this, and no new centers have been authorized, even though it was reiterated at PC Expo that this was a high-priority issue. However, we have all received an interesting mailing from CA that they now offer Clipper training. It has become somewhat clearer now why nothing has gone forward about authorizing new training centers (or supporting the old ones, for that matter). In fact, Clayton received a phone call from a CA rep the _day_after_ he got that mailing, asking him if he had any questions about Clipper, or if he needed any training. What was particularly strange was that the caller didn't seem to realize the significance of the fact that he had called a TechniCon speaker. He did, however, promise to let some other department know that Kansas City still hadn't been contacted for a user group visit. Now we come, unfortunately, to TechniCon. There was a lot of heat generated over both the temporal and spatial movement of the conference, most of which was uncalled for, we feel. After all, CA had said early on that they would _try_ to leave the date/place alone, but that they wanted to expand it. That they didn't announce earlier that it was definitely moving, even though they weren't sure when or where to was a mistake, but 20/20 hindsight and all that. Moving it to NY and election week may be an inconvenience for many of us, but finding space for such a large event on short notice is not an easy task. However, that doesn't explain why the people that put in proposals for speaking and were not accepted for one reason or another were never contacted. They either learned through the grapevine or by seeing others talk about having been contacted and they weren't. As of this writing there still isn't any official mailing listing who is talking and what the sessions are on. Also, CA seems to be spreading things very thin. Many speakers are talking on two subjects, often giving each session only once. This does not bode well, considering the fact that they number of time slots available for sessions was _expanded_ by the conference move. In addition, the kits describing the requirements for the speakers did not arrive in the speakers hands until mid-August, after some of the supposed deadlines for turning information in. Further, for those trying to oblige, a call to the contact at CA who all these materials are coordinated through, finds that person on vacation until the NEXT monday. Also, there was a non-negotiable deadline for conference papers less than 10 from the date that the speakers received the request. This deadline was subsequently pushed back by one week. Be that as it may, the papers are requested to be 20 to 30 pages in length. We firmly believe that the speakers involved have enough pride in their work to produce the serious technical papers that have been the hallmark of Nantucket's Developer Conferences of the past. None the less, the short deadline and lack of CA availability is a seriously unfortunate indication of CA's lack of consideration in execution. The lack of a mailing yet is especially disturbing, since they have managed to put out a mailing on Clipper training (costing almost as much as the TechniCon, but for fewer days). It seems their resources are set to a different priority than Nantucket's were. Although it has been stated that the brochures will be mailed out this week, we have heard that song before. While a lot of this may seem like minor points in the grand scheme of things, it points to some disorganization in CA's first big chance to present itself personally to the Clipper community. There is already talk that it will turn into a week long sales pitch for CA's other products. While this is somewhat unfair, given the type of sessions that _will_ take place, the frequency of those sessions in the expanded schedule is alarming. This leads to CA's statement that they would set up a DevCon steering committee. This committee has not only not been formed, but no further discussions have taken place. Some of our fears at meeting one of CA's top sales people in the hall who was "very involved" with arranging DevCon seem to be coming true. CA also said that the old Nantucket booth at PC-Expo would be given over to third party developers. This seems to have worked very well. In addition to some AccPac, dBFast, and Realizer people, dLesko, SuccessWare, SofDesign, Black & White, Pinnacle, and other Clipper vendors were there. There seemed to be a lot of interest at the CA booth, and most of Tech Marketing were there showing off Clipper. CA seems to be doing some work to get Clipper shown, but it's hardly the jewel in their crown. With 30+ micro products, Clipper has a place, but it's not like it was at Nantucket, where it was the ONLY product. As we stated in our original report, the thing we stressed the most was getting out a bug fix for 5.01, and they seem to have done that. Whether they can live up to any of their other promises, we'll just have to wait and see. However, as Jo French so aptly put it "The free ride is over." On a more personal note, we have all received various messages that we went to Islandia and rolled over for CA. To say that we resent such statements would imply that we take them to heart, when we don't. None of us want anyone to think that we are boobs that can be snookered by slick talk. However, we went there with open minds, and liked what we saw. The nature of the beast was that we had to take CA at their word, since we had no history. In fact, most of the messages we received regarded how CA was changing the way things had historically been done. We would like to point out that posting bug fixes on CI$ had not historically been done either, and most other things pale in comparison. Even if TechniCon is a total bust, that won't impact nearly as many people (despite the bad press it would generate) as getting out 5.2, 5.X and an Aspen-based product in a timely fashion. Finally, we are somewhat disappointed that, as a group, we have had no further contact with CA. While it was never stated outright that there would be more than one meeting, that was definitely our impression when we left Islandia after the first meeting. Perhaps that was a case of the best laid plans, and perhaps it wouldn't have made any difference. However, _we_ would have felt better knowing that someone in CA had heard NanForum's views. We still invite your comments and complaints. It was exactly these messages that prompted us to make this follow-up report. Also, it never hurts to have another point of view, and each of you has information unique to your situation that we may not have considered. Communication with CA (other than a technical support presence on NanForum) seems to have completely broken down. CA seems reluctant to take advice from anyone, even if they have already walked that mile. Unfortunately this means CA is probably going to make most of the same mistakes that Nantucket already has. Let's hope that they learn fast, before the lessons get too repetitious. The Nanforum Gang of 4 Clayton Neff 72007,302 Kent Kingery 70476,1403 Samuel S ElyacharShuster 72657,1121 Don Caton 70007,5454 -= This file was brought to you via CLN =-