**** Conference [ 62] - (Fido) Planet Connect From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/07/93 10:04p Subj: stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are we having fun yet...... John...... As you can assume this is a test........ --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * Net 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2 To: ANTONIO RIVEROS Date: 09/10/93 12:20p Subj: Re: backup system Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > messages and they would be lost. How about keeping..2 days mail on file > request. So if I miss Tuesday's mail, I can FREQ TUESDAY from 1:3615/50 ALL mail is held here for 4 days. All you have to freq 0000FFFF.??? Where the extension you would file in is for the day and bundle you want. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: SATELLITE + PLANET CONNECT + FIDO = A NEW GENERATION (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 3 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/10/93 12:21p Subj: Re: P.C. Pricing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > KJ> INTERNET on this thing? > That's two vote for it..... Are you listening Boyd ? ;-) I already told ya. YES we will have the Usenet News Groups going over!! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: SATELLITE + PLANET CONNECT + FIDO = A NEW GENERATION (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 4 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/11/93 9:24a Subj: problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Forwarded from "PCBETA" * Originally by John Morano * Originally to Ken Jackson * Originally dated 7 Sep 1993, 19:10 KJ> interested in your utility, if you are going to share it KJ> with the rest of us beta guyz... >Consider it done, I uploaded it to Boyd last night, I think it will be tic'd >out over the bird. KJ> --- GEcho/386 1.01+ >Is this tag for real? I helped beta GEcho, I guess I been out of touch to >long. But I will assume it still doesn't support JAM. John, about the only thing that is different between 1.00 and 1.01 are the extended semaphore control files X*.* for Front Door and Intermail. Other than that, no big changes... See ya Todd ... $ Look! We're not far from civilization! ___ TagDude 0.74à+ --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS (318)582-6411 and 582-3509 Iowa, LA (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 5 To: ANTONIO RIVEROS Date: 09/11/93 12:56p Subj: backup system Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Forwarded from "PCBETA" * Originally by Todd Lyons * Originally to Antonio Riveros * Originally dated 11 Sep 1993, 12:56 > pick up the mail. I am sure this would not be more than 8 megs of drive > space > to hold (2 days should be enough?). This would sure make people easier > all No, it would be more than 8 megs. As it is, he does keep the mail for a few days and has told us of a way to allow us to make his system resend it over the satellite. I can't recall it right now, but hopefully, Boyd will detail it again for us. > Still Fighting NET342 to distribute What I did in this net was get EVERYBODY in on the ground floor. We restructured our entire net around the distribution of this system. I think if you get everybody involved, it will allay a lot of their fears. Have everybody over for a Saturday or Sunday and let them watch the system work as it transfers good files over to your inbound subdir, as it processes all that mail, packs it up outbound, then comes back up to receive it. Probably the most impressive part is when it starts copying all those files over, one after the other. Then let them watch as it receives them all again and then deletes the ones that it's already processed. Another thing is that I NEVER get any errors receiving. The one time that I did, I had a lightning storm going on just south of me. When it moved to directly over me, the errors went away Gotta love satellites... See ya Todd ... (Blink)(Blink) Simulated ANSI Graphics (Blink)(Blink) ___ TagDude 0.74à+ --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS (318)582-6411 and 582-3509 Iowa, LA (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 6 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/11/93 12:58p Subj: stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are we having fun yet...... > As you can assume this is a test........ Well it passed on this end. Hope it doesn't tick anybody off, but I replied to a message in PCBETA *AND* forwarded it to this echo too. Seems one or two people haven't switched over yet. They'll get the picture when nothing comes in for a few days See ya Todd ... If at first you don't succeed, beat 'em up! ___ TagDude 0.74à+ --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS (318)582-6411 and 582-3509 Iowa, LA (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WHITT Number: 7 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/12/93 1:51p Subj: stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a msg of <07 Sep 93>, John Morano writes to Boyd Goodin: JM> Are we having fun yet...... JM> John...... I dont' know about you, but I sure am! I feel like Pogo: the world is my lavatory! Robert --- GoldED 2.31 * Origin: Live from the Earth Station (1:3645/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 8 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/12/93 1:47p Subj: PCUtils Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I found it in my updates subdirectory and checked it out. What advantages does it offer over PCCHECK? could you give some documentation on the NEXTx function? If I were to guess I run PCUTIL NEXT5 and it'll check 5 files at a time and then copy them over to my mailer's inbound subdir 5 files at a time (in order of date??)?? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS (318)582-6411 and 582-3509 Iowa, LA (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 9 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/14/93 10:47p Subj: Re: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It seems that all the posts that I am getting are in the old PCBETA echo. > How long before you cut it off? Just rename it to PLANET_CONNECT. This ones for the public. Also PCSITES is for everyone that is connected via the sat so its a place for you all to type at each other and anything you want me for. PCSITES will include messages that I get from John on things that are going thru his system too well. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: SATELLITE + PLANET CONNECT + FIDO = A NEW GENERATION (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 10 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/14/93 11:36p Subj: PCUtils Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> What advantages does it offer over PCCHECK? It works..... ;-) TL> could you give some documentation on the NEXTx function? If NEXTx will copy x mail bundles from the HOLDING directory to your normal inbound mail directory ( if you have PCU.CFG set up right ). The program was writen to run on a network or under Multitask where you would have one node or task doing nothing but gathering the mail being sent from Planet Connect. PCUTIL CHECKx can be called from any node (task) and will rip out the new files that where recieved from the last time it was called and put them in a safe HOLDING directory, then it will clean out the downlink directory and log,catalog,sort and basicly leave you a good audit trail in the form of PCU_xxxx.LOG files so you can see exactly what the satellite is sending, The NEXTx function can the be called at any time to copy one or more mail bundles to the toss directory, this was done so your system was not sitting there for 2 hours trying to churn out all that mail in one shot, it can be done one bundle at a time whenever your system cycles on an incoming call, The files and Tic's a copied to the holding directory also and will be ticked out with any utility you like ( I have not finished the built in tic function yet ) The newest version is 1.05 and is on it's way up the link as we speak (I hope) if not FREQ PCU here at Genesis. If you get the PCU.CFG set properly and do a SET PCU=path to that config file you should be able to call PCUTIL with no options and get a lot of option settings off the HELP screen. Sorry I haven't taken more time to do docs on it please keep in mind that it was writen for Genesis for inhouse use and I just figured you guys might be able to use it. The newest version has a little more in the readme and there is also a log file that explains a little about what changes I've made since that version has been uplinked. Hope it helps....... Words of wisdom... BACK IT UP BEFORE YOU FIRE IT UP ! ;-) John.......... --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * Net 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 11 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/13/93 9:35p Subj: problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> John, about the only thing that is different between 1.00 TL> and 1.01 are the extended semaphore control files X*.* for Thanks Todd, if you hear of an upgrade that will do JAM keep me in mind please. Now to keep this on subject the new PCUTIL is on its way to Boyd..... John...... --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * Net 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 12 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/14/93 1:29a Subj: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No It seems that all the posts that I am getting are in the old PCBETA echo. How long before you cut it off? See ua Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS (318)582-6411 and 582-3509 Iowa, LA (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 13 To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 1:23p Subj: Planet Connect/multitasking Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All-- When we gonna be able to use this thing in a multitasking environment? Ken --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy 601/453-3963 (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 14 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/15/93 1:26a Subj: P.C. Pricing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You siad My mail was tossing with a seenby of 3615/51. Can you tell if this one has? Thanks for letting me know. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 15 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 09/16/93 7:39p Subj: Planet Connect/multitasking Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > When we gonna be able to use this thing in a multitasking environment? Haven't been able to yet. If you figure out a way, please let me know! WRONG WRONG WRONG... It's now about 30 minutes after I wrote message and I have gotten Planet Connect to run under DV. I threw DV on my server and started it across the network and it's working wonderfully so far. I'll post the pif in a few days if the system continues to run smoothly. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 16 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/16/93 7:42p Subj: P.C. Pricing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You siad My mail was tossing with a seenby of 3615/51. Can you tell if > this one has? Probably not, since it got past 3615/50 and over to here. Good to see you in here. How much have you messed with the system?? Which software are you using all of this with? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 17 To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 8:38p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there! Net124 (Dallas) joins this echo. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 18 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/16/93 11:28p Subj: this echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eric, are you getting this ok? How's that dish running? :-) --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 19 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 09/17/93 12:25a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Testing the message flow, just to help it get started and make sure I'm able to receive it. Dish is in place Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 20 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/18/93 12:08a Subj: Re: P.C. Pricing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You siad My mail was tossing with a seenby of 3615/51. Can you tell if > this one has? Seems to be working ok now guy! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 21 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/18/93 12:09a Subj: Re: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there! Net124 (Dallas) joins this echo. Welcome Clay. Glad to have ya aboard! .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 22 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/18/93 12:10a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd, Hello D.J.! > Testing the message flow, just to help it get started and make sure I'm > able to receive it. No problem. Get the receiver yet?? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 23 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/16/93 11:22p Subj: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are we receving the MACINTOSH File areas and Amiga File areas yet? Those are in big demand here. Beside the MAC users seem to be the most generous people I have ever found. PC are the cheapest! Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PRESTON SMITH Number: 24 To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 11:20a Subj: Here we are Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Net 128 from Colorado Springs joins the echo. Would appreciate any feedback on problems, successes, failures, strengths, etc from a net that is using this system to pick up their mail. also how are you integrating the Net FIle Coord (NFC) and Net Echo Coord (NEC) into the satellite feed process. thnaks Preston --- GoldED/2 2.41.B0108+ * Origin: Canadian Connection, Colorado Springs, CO (719)599-4568 (1:128/77) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 25 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/18/93 7:17p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Clay Tinsley wrote in a message to Dave James: > Testing the message flow, just to help it get started and > make sure I'm able to receive it. > Dish is in place CT> Hi Dave - are you going dishmail full-time? Not right away, from what I hear, the feed is ONCE per day, where as right now I get fresh echomail every three hours... But, there is still almost the entire FILEBONE feed to look at! Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 26 To: PRESTON SMITH Date: 09/18/93 5:15p Subj: Here we are Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PS> appreciate any feedback on problems, successes, failures, It works. Just get the software set right and sit back and enjoy.... John...... . --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * 5 Gig * 4 Nodes * Sat-Link * 501-267-9600 * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 27 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/18/93 12:40p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Testing the message flow, just to help it get started and > make sure I'm able to receive it. > Dish is in place Hi Dave - are you going dishmail full-time? --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 28 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/18/93 3:32a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Dave James: BG> No problem. Get the receiver yet?? Nope, figure it will arrive next week sometime, depending on how it was shipped. Soon I hope Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 29 To: BOYD Date: 09/18/93 2:45a Subj: UseNet Feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Anytime frame for picking up the UseNet feed off the internet yet? Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 30 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/19/93 9:27p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Nope, figure it will arrive next week sometime, depending on how it was > shipped. Just UPS ground I think. Should be sometime this week. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 31 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/19/93 9:36p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be > refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and > 7pm rotation schedule. Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh the flow. Now remember that we have to send everything to the uplink via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss anything there will be less chance of picking it up again since the retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does everyone say? ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 32 To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:45p Subj: PCUTILS Filearea. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Everyone. Please add PCUTILS to your tic areas. This area will be for utility programs for the Planet Connect or if you have an information file pertaining to planet connect that you would like to pass on to the rest of the users. Just send anything you want to be redistributed to everyone when you are dropping off mail and I will get it up onto the bird with its own tic file. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 33 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/19/93 4:34p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Haven't heard from you lately... I assume my mail packets have been getting there with the correct id's --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/300) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 34 To: PRESTON SMITH Date: 09/18/93 10:57a Subj: Here we are Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Friday September 17 1993, Preston Smith writes to All: Hello Preston! PS> Net 128 from Colorado Springs joins the echo. Would appreciate any PS> feedback on problems, successes, failures, strengths, etc from a net that PS> is using this system to pick up their mail. also how are you integrating PS> the Net FIle Coord (NFC) and Net Echo Coord (NEC) into the satellite feed PS> process. What I'm going to be doing is simply passing all the inbound packets to our region hub who will process and carry out the distribution..no need to screw with a system that works smooth as silk :) This will go online once we feel secure with the fact that the whole backbone is arriving in its entirety each day at least by a specific time. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - LIVE via Satalite - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 35 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/18/93 10:59a Subj: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday September 16 1993, Tim Jacobs writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello Tim! TJ> Are we receving the MACINTOSH File areas and Amiga File areas yet? Those TJ> are in big demand here. Beside the MAC users seem to be the most generous TJ> people I have ever found. PC are the cheapest! the amigas SKY-stuff file areas are coming through nicely so far. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - LIVE via Satalite - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 36 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/19/93 10:53a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not right away, from what I hear, the feed is ONCE per day, > where as right now I get fresh echomail every three hours... > But, there is still almost the entire FILEBONE feed to look > at! I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and 7pm rotation schedule. This is the biggest gripe in Net124 as well. Perfect for file echos, but adding another day to echomail is not too attractive. We poll Souvestre four times a day. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 37 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/19/93 6:45p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Clay Tinsley wrote in a message to Dave James: CT> I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the CT> echomail could be refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would CT> be MUCH better - like a 7am and 7pm rotation schedule. Thrice would be even better yet! CT> This is the biggest gripe in Net124 as well. Perfect CT> for file echos, but adding another day to echomail is not CT> too attractive. We poll Souvestre four times a day. Me and John's systems poll each other every 4 hours around the clock 7daysaweek. This is to move the netmail quicker and keep the echomail flowing as quick as possible... no one likes to read a day old newspaper Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 38 To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 1:32p Subj: Re: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is part of a recent conversation that took place in the Net 124/Net 130 (Dallas/Ft. Worth) Planet Connect discussion echo. I was wondering how Planet Connect discussions were going in other nets... * Originally By: Eric Fisher * Originally To: Harry McDow * Originally Re: Re: this Dish Stuff * Original Area: DFW Dishmail Echo * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.12 -=> Quoting Harry McDow to Tony White <=- CT>> 4) 124/1 processes the mail with the required AKA, and CT>> delivers that inbound mail to the hubs as we do now. TW> Realizing that we'll only get one mail packet per day, yes. HM> This sucks. Mail that is over 24 hours old is stale crap. I think everyone except Planet Systems realizes this. I've mentioned it several times and finally got a reply back in writing that was quite discouraging. The guy who wrote the receiving software, Lee Bonnifield, is apparently a real code whiz; so how hard could it be to migrate from a feed rotation that is static (flushed every 24 hours) flat-file based (they send the text file, UPLD.LST, out between every five files) to a simple DBASE-type structure something like so: Field Size Type Indexed FileName 12 ASCII No ; xxxxxxxx.xxx ExpireTime 8 DLongInt No ; Date/Time In Julian format LastXmit 8 DLongInt Yes ; " " " " " " " ; PTCCMAIN - Reception Program Repeat ; Every time a new 0000FFFF bundle Set Counter = 0 ; is packed out to 3615/51 from Find Lowest LastXmit ; 3615/50, their batch file should If Not CurrentTime > ExpireTime ; fire up a 2nd program, ie PTCCADD XmitFile ; like so: Set LastXmit = CurrentTime ; Save Record ; FOR %%F IN (\OUTB\0000FFFF.*) DO Increment Counter ; PTCCADD %%F If Counter = 5 ; MakeFlatFile ; PTCCADD would create an entry in XmitFlatFile ; the rotation file, clear its Set Counter = 0 ; LastXmit field, and set ExpireTime EndIf ; to CurrentTime + 24 (or 36) hours, Else ; whatever works best... Delete Record EndIf Loop Sorry for being so pedantic, but I'm crossposting this message into the PLANET_CONNECT echo in hopes of starting a brush fire... :-) HM> This means that our bone echomail will go back to the satellite and be HM> re-circulated? Or that it will stay on the land line or will be held HM> till the next satellite feed? Geesh, think of the dupes. Nope, it'll come back to 124/2106 with all of 2106's downlinks already in the SEENBY's, thus it'll evaporate during toss/scan, unless the dupe-checker slays it first. TW> Boy, this sounds familiar... :-) If it's a vote, I vote no. Reason TW> being is that if somebody wants something bad enough, they're going to TW> pick up the phone anyway. HM> I agree with Clay. Time-sensitive stuff needs the benefit of HM> modem/land-line immediacy. Any mail over 24 hour old is stale crap. CT>> 8) In order for the rest of the USA to get our CT>> outbound echomail, the satellite will have to broadcast it CT>> out, meaning we'll be receiving it back again as well. CT>> Squish's dupe checker on 124/1 should take care of this. I CT>> just hate to see 124/2106 have to crank through those CT>> bundles for no real reason. This is my recommended method, CT>> for starters. TW> Ouch. HM> Ouch? I say crap. Why doesn't PC have the software necessary to HM> prevent this? Or could PC prevent dupes even with the best intent? HM> Seems like to me we are taking a step BACKWARDS with a view to the HM> echomail. Now, I love change as much as the next person, and this thing HM> is perfect for the file echos, but as for echomail... over 24 hours HM> old is stale crap. Who would want it? Not me, not my downlinks and HM> not my users. Perhaps if PC took a feed 4 times a day, and CHANGED HM> the satellite feed for each feed, updating it... then maybe I could HM> agree to PC's merits. Planet Connect has very satisfactory software to prevent duplicate processing of mail bundles, even if received several times during the rotation. The only thing that makes me nervous is the "stale crap" syndrome. I wouldn't recommend committing to an annual subscription until they realize that they have a problem here. CT>> 8a) One reason TO crank through the bundles at 124/2106 CT>> is to create outbound mail for 124/1 AND Net 130's hub, CT>> 130/55. Net 130's outbound echomail can still come into CT>> 124/1. 124/1 would not send the mail to Net130, because CT>> 124/2106 would already have them added to the SEEN+BY's. CT>> Net130 would not resend it to 124/1, because of the same CT>> reason. HM> I see a routing nightmare that is fragile, jumping through hoops, easy HM> to break. I see dupes... no TONS of dupes with each broadcast from the HM> satellite, since it doesn't change its uplink data for 24 hours. I HM> see a fantastic way of moving the file echos. The file echoes are moving along very nicely, or have you even noticed? :-) For the last week, buth FDN's have been taking the filebone (less DV, Clipper, Genealogy & AnsiClub) via 2106 & Planet Connect. Give me an example of how we'd get "TONS of dupes". You mean from stuff that originates in 124 or 130, goes up to 3615/50 only to return to 2106? Such duplication would be stopped by not one, but two methods; see paragraph above. =Eric -!- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 ! Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 39 To: JEFF JOHNSON Date: 09/19/93 11:50p Subj: Re: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, Haven't heard from you lately... I assume my mail packets have been > getting there with the correct id's Yep there here. Make sure that you are not adding 51 to the seenby's cause if you are it will never get out over the satellite. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 40 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/19/93 2:53p Subj: mail frequency Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd... the biggest topic so far in our local DISHMAIL echo is the time lag on mail processing. It sounds as if you're polling for mail several times a day, but only processing and sending it out via satellite once, around 6-7am. Nets 124 and 130 are large, over 350 nodes, and feed several smaller nets as well. All feed from one machine, 124/1. This machine polls 396/1 four times a day, five on weekends. We'd seriously like you to consider adding a second process to the loop, 12 hours from the first one. If you have reasons for not doing this, I'd like to hear them. We are very serious about dropping our $200 a month backbone modem feed for satellite mail, but hate the associated delays and its affect on such a large group. My guess is that if you asked around, your satellite customers will be willing to pay $10 more a month for two daily transmissions... :-) --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 41 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/20/93 11:28a Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there! Net124 (Dallas) joins this echo. My God, Clay. You and I are living proof that they'll let just anyone in. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.22 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 42 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 7:38p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ok now lets set it to a vote. ... > What does everyone say? Fair enough, Boyd.. I appreciate you being open to this. Net124 is representing over 350 nodes directly and probably 100+ via feeds off Net124. We vote for 2 transmissions, or some other method of broadcasting current mail. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 43 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/20/93 7:42p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CT> While I agree, let's not push our luck.. :-) EF> Uhhh.... You're still talking about fixed transmit windows if EF> you're advocating increasing rotations to 2 or more times a EF> day. Ideally, a file should dynamically enter the rotation as EF> soon as it is ARCed, with an expiration time and MinXmit count EF> associated with it. Yes, you're right Eric. This would be the best way. Lemme make sure I understand this: - all mail bundles say in the file rotation for 24 or more hours, and drop off after 24 hours. Several hours more than 24 would be idea. - new mail is added to the end of the run as it's created - or every four hours or so. This would allow a net to still pick up mail once a day, or a net to pick up fresh mail continuously if they wish to scan the scan the skies all day. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 44 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/20/93 7:48p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > of mail bundles was extended to, say, 36 hours instead of the > 24 in the example. You'll notice that for any time of day, > you have the same size rotation as if all bundles were > synched to a time of day, but with nothing close to a 24 hour > hold on mail. Even better! This gets my vote. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 45 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 9:44a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Clay Tinsley <=- > I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be > refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and > 7pm rotation schedule. BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you out BG> there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to 2 feeds BG> per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh the flow. Now BG> remember that we have to send everything to the uplink via modem so BG> that takes time. Also if you miss anything there will be less chance BG> of picking it up again since the retransmitting time would be cut in BG> half. What does everyone say? This is what I'm proposing... <-----0000FFFF.SU0-----><-----0000FFFF.MO0-----><-----0000FFFF.TU0-----> ...<-----0000FFFF.SU1-----><-----0000FFFF.MO1-----><-----0000FFFF.TU1---... ......<-----0000FFFF.SU2-----><-----0000FFFF.MO2-----><-----0000FFFF.TU2... ...-----><-----0000FFFF.SU3-----><-----0000FFFF.MO3-----><-----0000FFFF.... ...SA4-----><-----0000FFFF.SU4-----><-----0000FFFF.MO4-----><-----0000FF... ...FF.SA5-----><-----0000FFFF.SU5-----><-----0000FFFF.MO5-----><-----000... ...0FFFF.SA6-----><-----0000FFFF.SU6-----><-----0000FFFF.MO6-----><-----... ...0000FFFF.SA7-----><-----0000FFFF.SU7-----><-----0000FFFF.MO7-----><--... <-----0000FFFF.SA8-----><-----0000FFFF.SU8-----><-----0000FFFF.MO8----->... 000000000011111111112222000000000011111111112222000000000011111111112222 012345678901234567890123012345678901234567890123012345678901234567890123 | AM Sunday PM || AM Monday PM || AM Tuesday PM | The bundle extensions are purely arbitrary, but simplified for discussion. By the algorithm I posted earlier, mail freshness would be assured, as would your ability to guarantee availability of all mail to part-time receivers, especially of the shelf-life of mail bundles was extended to, say, 36 hours instead of the 24 in the example. You'll notice that for any time of day, you have the same size rotation as if all bundles were synched to a time of day, but with nothing close to a 24 hour hold on mail. It's really not that different from a method you're already employing; namely, keeping 2 or 3 days worth of mail bundles available for file-request. These files are staggered and overlapped and get expired after a certain amount of time. Why not do the same with the beam? Comments? =Eric --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 46 To: JOHN REYNOLDS Date: 09/20/93 9:54a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Reynolds to Boyd Goodin <=- JR> I know we may have an unusual situation, but we here in Net124 plan on JR> buying a separate dish just for PC - we already have our own JR> "community" computer for processing our mail as it comes in now and JR> the cost of the dish/decoder is "about" the price of a new USR modem JR> and a telephone line. Boyd, Not only are we buying a dedicated dish for PC, we are contemplating 2nd and 3rd dishes (and subscriptions!) as a means of reducing traffic between nets 124 & 130 and separating file distribution functions from echomail routes. That's how sensitive we are to timely echomail delivery. =Eric --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 47 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 10:08a Subj: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No More D/FW chatter regarding mail timing..... * Originally By: Dean Lachan * Originally To: Harry McDow * Originally Re: this Dish Stuff * Original Area: DFW Dishmail Echo * Forwarded by : Blue Wave v2.12 HM> thing. I know I'm making a lot of noise about this, but it HM> is important to me. FidoNet echomail is probably the best HM> in the hobby network world. I left a message in GoldEd the HM> other day, and got 3 answers from three different people 1 HM> DAY (about 35 hours) later. I was impressed. One of the HM> answers was from Canada. (Fixed the problem, too.) It's (time lag) one of the things that has been GREATLY reduced over the years from 2-3 days nationally to as quickly as < 12-18 hours nationally. Now messages/reply chains are going to go back to the 2-3 days again. Maybe the time-based areas should be dropped and picked up 'real-time' (ie. ForSale conferences). --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN MARTIN Number: 48 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 2:24p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sep 19 21:36, Boyd Goodin of 1:124/5125 wrote: >> I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be >> refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am >> and 7pm rotation schedule. BG> BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you out BG> there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to 2 feeds BG> per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh the flow. Now BG> remember that we have to send everything to the uplink via modem so BG> that takes time. Also if you miss anything there will be less chance BG> of picking it up again since the retransmitting time would be cut in BG> half. What does everyone say? Hello Boyd! I would vote for a 2 feed cycle. Maybe you should have posted your message to ALL? Regards, --- * Origin: The E-LINK bbs [214]-680-8119 (1:124/5146) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 49 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/19/93 11:53p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CT> I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the CT> echomail could be refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would CT> be MUCH better - like a 7am and 7pm rotation schedule. DJ> Thrice would be even better yet! While I agree, let's not push our luck.. :-) DJ> This is to move the netmail quicker and keep the echomail DJ> flowing as quick as possible... no one likes to read a day DJ> old newspaper Agreed! ...and we've exchanged three messages in 13 hours - (me, you, me). No furthur comment. --- * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/HST (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 50 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 9:59a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scribbled in a note to Clay Tinsley: > I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be > refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and > 7pm rotation schedule. BG> BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of BG> you out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if BG> we go to 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best BG> to refresh the flow. Now remember that we have to send BG> everything to the uplink via modem so that takes time. Also BG> if you miss anything there will be less chance of picking it BG> up again since the retransmitting time would be cut in half. BG> What does everyone say? Let's go for the twice daily rotation. I really don't figure there are THAT many who will be using their dish for THAT much TV viewing - if so, the prices of a second stationary dish just for PC is not that much of a cost over the long haul. I would think larger nets would want to do this anyway so that one person doesn't have a strangle hold on the mail. The smaller dish is transportable and can be moved whenever someone moves or their spouse tells them to give up the hobby :-) I know we may have an unusual situation, but we here in Net124 plan on buying a separate dish just for PC - we already have our own "community" computer for processing our mail as it comes in now and the cost of the dish/decoder is "about" the price of a new USR modem and a telephone line. When you look at the LD savings over the next year or two, that's not much for this hobby. Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 51 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/20/93 7:57a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Clay Tinsley to Dave James <=- CT> I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the CT> echomail could be refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would CT> be MUCH better - like a 7am and 7pm rotation schedule. DJ> Thrice would be even better yet! CT> While I agree, let's not push our luck.. :-) Uhhh.... You're still talking about fixed transmit windows if you're advocating increasing rotations to 2 or more times a day. Ideally, a file should dynamically enter the rotation as soon as it is ARCed, with an expiration time and MinXmit count associated with it. DJ> This is to move the netmail quicker and keep the echomail DJ> flowing as quick as possible... no one likes to read a day DJ> old newspaper CT> Agreed! ...and we've exchanged three messages in 13 hours - (me, CT> you, me). No furthur comment. What's taking McDow so long to jump in over here, Clay? :-) =Eric --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 52 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 09/20/93 7:59a Subj: Re: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ken Kavanagh to Tim Jacobs <=- KK> Hello Tim! TJ> Are we receving the MACINTOSH File areas and Amiga File areas yet? Those TJ> are in big demand here. Beside the MAC users seem to be the most generous TJ> people I have ever found. PC are the cheapest! KK> the amigas SKY-stuff file areas are coming through nicely so far. Not to mention the full ADS* run. =Eric --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 * Origin: Amiga LANd - Mesquite, TX - 214-222-2510 (1:124/2105.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HARRY MCDOW Number: 53 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/20/93 9:28p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Eric! Monday September 20 1993 07:57, Eric Fisher wrote to Clay Tinsley: EF> What's taking McDow so long to jump in over here, Clay? :-) I'm here reading and lurking. Thinkin' and calculating. Seems that there is some pressure for refreshing the feeds to 2 a day. Sounds like a great idea to me. I'm gonna read some more messages. For some reason, I forgot to read this area. :-| - Harry --- GoldED 2.41+/1054US1 * Origin: TCR'S Revenge - Seagoville, Texas - (214) 287-5135 (1:124/4218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 54 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 09/21/93 11:35p Subj: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > On Thursday September 16 1993, Tim Jacobs writes to Boyd > Goodin: > Hello Tim! > TJ> Are we receving the MACINTOSH File areas and Amiga File areas yet? > TJ> are in big demand here. Beside the MAC users seem to be the most > TJ> people I have ever found. PC are the cheapest! > the amigas SKY-stuff file areas are coming through nicely so > far. > Cheers, Ken Yes, I see that now. Thanks for the note. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 55 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/21/93 11:43p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I think our thoughts are in the same boat. If the echomail could be >> refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and >> 7pm rotation schedule. > Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you > out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to > 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh > the flow. Now remember that we have to send everything to the > uplink via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss anything > there will be less chance of picking it up again since the > retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does everyone > say? > ....Boyd I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a days mail. And I don't want to have to call longdistance for it. If my system did nothing but get mail that is a differnt story. I have another life besides BBS'ing 24hours a day, and that envolves some TV watching. MAYBE in the future when there are utilities written to AUTOMATICLY see what packets came in and see which one didn't and have the system call for the ones that didn't make it. But at the present time lets keep it simple and as little as possible to screw up. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 56 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/21/93 11:50p Subj: mail frequency Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We'd seriously like you to consider adding a second process > to the loop, 12 hours from the first one. If you have reasons > for not doing this, I'd like to hear them. We are very serious > about dropping our $200 a month backbone modem feed for > satellite mail, but hate the associated delays and its affect on > such a large group. > > My guess is that if you asked around, your satellite > customers will be willing to pay $10 more a month for two daily > transmissions... :-) No I am sure MOST don't want to pay another $10 a month! The whole idea is to keep costs down. And if it would cost us more than I am even MORE against it than before. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 57 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/22/93 12:05a Subj: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's (time lag) one of the things that has been GREATLY reduced > over the years from 2-3 days nationally to as quickly as > < 12-18 hours> nationally. Now messages/reply chains are going > to go back to the 2-3 days again. It is obvious that this will not be for everyone. Even if we were to go to 2 cycles you could continue to gripe about the delay. Lets just let the system iron out and get the new users and maybe AFTER it is established and there is a good user base for the system then start experimenting with speeding up mail. I for one like the cheap altrnative and it is worth the little bit of a delay each day rather than paying $350 a month. Since you have so many people and your net is so large, it sounds to me it would be cheaper to use the phones anyway. Just another opinion. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 58 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/21/93 1:16p Subj: Mail Flow Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, there seems to be a big hoop-la about the need to update the echomail more often then every 24 hours, May I make a suggestion that may solve this problem and still give those systems that are using thier home satellite receivers for TV's a chance to keep up to date. Is it possible to time stamp the files that you send to the uplink and then after 24 hours to delete those files from being sent over the satellite. In this way you could continually refresh the files that are being sent and any new file would be transmitted for 24 hours and then be deleted from the satellite uplink que. This would give everyone at least 24 hour to capture a file and would also keep the echomail flow fresh for those that don't want to read a day old newspaper. This is just a thought and may require a LOT of reprograming on your end to set this up, but it may be a better time to do it now then wait till you have a couple of thousand systems on line and then have to make a drastic change. Keep in mind that when you add the UseNet,Rime, and all the others cutting the transmit window on a file could cause us to only get one shot at it if you are talking a 12 or even 8 hour window..... Regards.... John.... --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 59 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/21/93 1:29p Subj: Re: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eric, I just read your message about the file uplink rotation, it seems we are saying the same thing so for what it's worth I agree with you.... John..... --- GEcho 1.00+ * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 60 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/21/93 9:51p Subj: Receiver Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Got the receiver, but no coax, will go down to the store and pickup 100' of RG-6 as you suggested in the first place Let you know how it all turns out by this week-end! Thanks! Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 61 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 2:53p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Clay Tinsley: BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of BG> you out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if BG> we go to 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best BG> What does everyone say? I for one vote NO! I use my dish for TV purposes as well as Planet Connect. As it stands now I have to catch the data stream twice to get everything. A second feed is fine for someone with a dedicated dish, but it's not practical for the rest of us. Cheers, Rob --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 62 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/21/93 1:12a Subj: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > This is part of a recent conversation that took place in the Net 124/Net > 130 (Dallas/Ft. Worth) Planet Connect discussion echo. I was wondering > how Planet Connect discussions were going in other nets... Your net's discussion was VASTLY different from ours. Being a small net, we were only getting 40% or less of the Fido Backbone before the satellite dish rested at my house. Now, a day old mail is better than the fact that before there was none there. We restructured our entire net around this thing. It was revolutionary for us. Hell we even got some guy running on an Atari 1040STe hubbing for us. Interesting stuff..... As far as routing nightmares, I should venture to say, don't let anybody who's stupid route the mail for them. I've no problems with routing yet (at least nobody's reported it yet...may be stupid some day soon ). See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 63 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 09/21/93 10:51p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > My God, Clay. You and I are living proof that they'll let > just anyone in. I won't worry until I see Lamar's name flying around here ;) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 64 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/22/93 8:13p Subj: Re: Echo name change. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think so. There are bunch of *.lha files that come through that my > LHARC won't properly unarc, so I'm pretty sure that those are the ones... Just look at the tic file and see what area it is going to and match it up with filebone.na. THat should tell you where it is from! ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 65 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/22/93 8:22p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a days mail. And > I don't want to have to call longdistance for it. If my system did note acknowledged. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 66 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 09/22/93 8:30p Subj: Re: Joining the echo... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd: > Expecting my dish and rx tomorrow and hopefully will be ready to go > on the weekend. Looking forward to this new method of communicating. Welcome aboard! .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 67 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 09/22/93 8:35p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In my unqualified opinion....it would seem logical to SEND as frequently > as possible. Thats what I am trying to find out. I know that there are users that use thier system for TV and with 2 feeds well their is going to be some problems at home with who has controlling interest over the dish if you know what I mean. I would hate to be sited as the cause of a devorce! Anyway for the finer points, hope everyone does not forget that once we start sending the Usenet Groups that the wide window that is avaible for Fido mail and files now will not be so big! ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 68 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/22/93 9:05p Subj: Re: Mail Flow Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is it possible to time stamp the files that you send to the uplink and > then after 24 hours to delete those files from being sent over the > satellite. In this way you could continually refresh the files that are > being sent and any new file would be transmitted for 24 hours and then be We are working on a version of the uplink program that will (hopefully) allow us to insert files into the data-stream on the fly. Now I must also stress that we have to send everything to the uplink via modem. THis allows us to do all processing here. Now we could let the uplink do all the processing and just pump it out after it is being processed. THis would speed up the turn around but would create more problems than what we have now. Meaning that I will not travel 50 miles a day to check to see if everything is working, outgoing mail from everyone would have to be sent to the uplink (more chances of something going wrong, lock ups, security breatch,). > This is just a thought and may require a LOT of reprograming on your end > to set this up, but it may be a better time to do it now then wait till > you have a couple of thousand systems on line and then have to make a > drastic change. We are aware of it and working on it. The system has settled down to a normal routine. > Keep in mind that when you add the UseNet,Rime, and all the others > cutting the transmit window on a file could cause us to only get one shot > at it if you are talking a 12 or even 8 hour window..... Yes that is one of the masjor concerns. As more data is added to the stream these windows become smaller and smaller. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 69 To: ROB NELSON Date: 09/22/93 9:06p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Connect. As it stands now I have to catch the data stream twice to get > everything. A second feed is fine for someone with a dedicated dish, but > it's not practical for the rest of us. It is noted guy. Thanks for the input! ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 70 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/22/93 9:10p Subj: Re: Receiver Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Got the receiver, but no coax, will go down to the store and pickup 100' > of RG-6 as you suggested in the first place Ooooppppsss! Sorry I dont take care of shipping! > Let you know how it all turns out by this week-end! Ok, I wont hold my breath waiting for a phone call from some guy in Las Vegas cursing me to hell then!;-) ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 71 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/22/93 9:46p Subj: Mail Flow Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, there seems to be a big hoop-la about the need to update > the echomail more often then every 24 hours, May I make a > suggestion that may solve this problem and still give those > systems that are using thier home satellite receivers for TV's a > chance to keep up to date. > Is it possible to time stamp the files that you send to the > uplink and then after 24 hours to delete those files from being > sent over the satellite. In this way you could continually > refresh the files that are being sent and any new file would be > transmitted for 24 hours and then be deleted from the satellite > uplink que. This would give everyone at least 24 hour to > capture a file and would also keep the echomail flow fresh for > those that don't want to read a day old newspaper. I like this idea. The system at the uplink site would have to be written to do this. That is why I think we should just mellow and not jump into things. Lets get the software and some great utilities written and then maybe put a great plan like this into development. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 72 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/23/93 1:24a Subj: Problem? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim; Check your control file for your tosser and see if it adding 51 to the seenbys. I have noticed that log file for each message you drop off only 1 is getting reproduced. There should be 2 messages for every one that your send me. Check out this out. It is part of my tosser log file for one of your packets. @ CDRXR802.PKT 09/22/1993 13:17:21 O=1:271/270 D=1:3615/50 ID=5f S=3184b + ECHO: HDSALE # ...................... 0001 (Sent=000002) + ECHO: MACSW # ....................... 0001 (Sent=000001) Now see how the HDSALE as a sent=000002 This is correct cause it had one message and 2 were sent. One for John and one for the uplink. Now MACSW has only 1 there so it is going to either John or the uplink but not to both. So if you are adding 51 or 396/1 to the seenbys then one of the two are not getting the message from the MACSW conference. I am posting this here in the hopes that others will check more carefully and make sure they are not adding 396/1 or 3615/51 to the seenbys. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 73 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/21/93 8:51p Subj: Dedicated site Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I'm using a dedicated dish for the Planet Connect data, so changing schedules is NOT a problem. --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 74 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/23/93 10:28a Subj: Re: this Dish Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Morano wrote in a message to Eric Fisher: JM> Eric, I just read your message about the file uplink JM> rotation, it seems we are saying the same thing so for what JM> it's worth I agree with you.... You're the author of PCUTIL, right? I have some Planet Connect utilities lying around here that I wrote; what language are you coding in? (I'm strictly TP 7.0) =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 75 To: ROB NELSON Date: 09/23/93 10:30a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rob Nelson wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: RN> Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Clay Tinsley: BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of BG> you out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if BG> we go to 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best BG> What does everyone say? RN> I for one vote NO! I use my dish for TV purposes as well as RN> Planet Connect. As it stands now I have to catch the data RN> stream twice to get everything. A second feed is fine for RN> someone with a dedicated dish, but it's not practical for RN> the rest of us. You need to go back and re-read my proposal, as well as that of John Morano. =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 76 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/22/93 2:02p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Jacobs wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: > Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you > out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to > 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh > the flow. Now remember that we have to send everything to the > uplink via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss anything > there will be less chance of picking it up again since the > retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does everyone > say? TJ> I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a TJ> days mail. And I don't want to have to call longdistance for TJ> it. If my system did nothing but get mail that is a TJ> differnt story. I have another life besides BBS'ing 24hours TJ> a day, and that envolves some TV watching. There are alternatives to once-a-day mail that provide the ability to grab mail once per day. If PC's twice-a-day proposal meant that instead of a 7am-7pm rotation followed by a 7pm-7am, there would be two overlapping 24-hour rotations (ie, UPLD_7AM.LST and UPLD_7PM.LST) with each rotation being updated once a day, you'd still be able to turn on your receiver once per day and catch everything, as no bundles would ever spend less than 24 hours in rotation. That would at least be preferable to once-per-day replenishing... TJ> MAYBE in the future when there are utilities written to TJ> AUTOMATICLY see what packets came in and see which one TJ> didn't and have the system call for the ones that didn't TJ> make it. But at the present time lets keep it simple and as TJ> little as possible to screw up. That's a snap. I'll write that one to-nite! =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 77 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 09/22/93 2:11p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murray Pletsch wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: >> refreshed and sent TWICE a day, it would be MUCH better - like a 7am and >> 7pm rotation schedule. > Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you > out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to > 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh > the flow. Now remember that we have to send everything to the > uplink via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss anything > there will be less chance of picking it up again since the > retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does everyone > say? MP> In my unqualified opinion....it would seem logical to SEND MP> as frequently as possible. No offense, but I think you misunderstood. The *sending* of mail & files is non-stop. The contents of a 24-hour period from 7am-7am, however, never change, even as new mail is acquired from the regional hub and from downlinks. What Boyd described above is certainly not what Clay, Harry & I are pushing. Our position is that the menu of mail bundles should change dynamically; if 3615/50 gets a wad of mail at 10am, it should appear in the menu in a reasonable amount of time, and its placement in the rotation shouldn't cause the rest of the rotation to be discarded, as it would in the "Every 12 Hours" scenario described above. As it currently operates, 10am-received mail sits until 7am the next morning; God help any COMPUSALE or other time-sensitive postings... :-) =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 78 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/22/93 5:54p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Jacobs scribbled in a note to Boyd Goodin: TJ> I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a TJ> days mail. And I don't want to have to call longdistance for TJ> it. If my system did nothing but get mail that is a TJ> differnt story. I have another life besides BBS'ing 24hours TJ> a day, and that envolves some TV watching. The cost of a demodulator and a fixed dish are about $600 (as I understand it and if that price still applies from Planet Connect). That's just a tad more than a USR DS Sysop Modem. I know if I had a satelite dish (no time for the TV I have to choose from now), I sure would spring for the extra $300 for a separate dish I didn't have to worry about resetting after I was done with my TV watching. Kinda like running a BBS on your voice line - might look like saving money but a real stupid idea for a serious sysop just to save the cost of an extra line. Many of the Sysops around here have been installing second data lines just to help move the fidonet mail locally! I think the marketing of the system is going to be to the Nets rather than to individuals. There is almost always more than one Fidonet board that is a local call to another so those two would "share" a dish. P. S. If I am incorrect in the price of the fixed dish and decoder, please correct my figures, they are just what I was told when the beta cycle began. Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 79 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/24/93 8:36a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No After watching the debate, I have settled upon the conclusion that I would like to see the mail bundles dynamically sent. Meaning, as they are packed, put them into the queue at the uplink site. Every time your computer sends the signal to ours to exit and process mail, it can "adopt" those new bundles, delete old bundles (based on age...some record keeping will need to be done on the uplink site to accomplish this), and restart the uplink process... I hope this ends up not being too much work for you, but fresh echomail is a definite bonus. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0g+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 80 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/26/93 7:11a Subj: Wall Street Journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Can you get USA Today and the Wall Street Journal for us??? The Ku-band receiver is providing an ERROR FREE link here! Thanks for all your help! Tell Joe thanks for me! Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 81 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/25/93 5:59a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Rob Nelson: > So long as the window isn't more than say 8-10 hours per day to collect > everything we would have a dynamic schedule where we could collect the > data anytime. The fixed schedule is the problem. I don't mind the BG> Here's a scenario, at 7:30 am you start to get new mail BG> and files. Now during the day more files and mail are added BG> to the data-stream. This will also include the news groups BG> when we get them going. As the day goes by it will take BG> longer and longer for the files that were put in at 7:30 am BG> to come around again. So as you add more data to the stream BG> it decreases the repeat time of the files you started out BG> with. If we had to send 75 megs a day what is your window BG> time to pick something up? Considering that we can only move BG> a little over 6 megs an hour. Ok, who is the rocket BG> scientist out there? That's a little disturbing, frankly. To know that the $40/month for Fido gradually buys you less and less bandwidth. Seriously, at what point do you stop selling tickets to an already oversold show? When you've got 75MB to send, whether staggered *or* simultaneous, wouldn't you be looking at getting more transponder space? =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 82 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/26/93 7:19a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Clay Tinsley scribbled in a note to Boyd Goodin: BG> with. If we had to send 75 megs a day what is your window BG> time to pick something up? Considering that we can only move BG> a little over 6 megs an hour. Ok, who is the rocket BG> scientist out there? CT> We get 99% of the backbone load in Dallas. Last week, CT> we got 51 meg of Zip v2.04'd echomail from 396/1. That's a CT> little over 7 meg a day. If there are 5 meg (probably an CT> overestimate) a day of filebone files, that would be 12 meg CT> a day to be sent. CT> If you can send out 6 meg an hour, then keeping 48 CT> hours worth of mail and files in a dynamic circulation CT> should be possible. That's only four hours. CT> After each "send" period, any new echomail and files CT> could be added to the rotation, and any echomail and files CT> that are over 48 hours old could be removed. Yeah, but I believe the point above is that Boyd is planning on adding the UseNet stuff in and that is a HUGE load which, as he proposes above, would add 60meg to the window, whereby the speed of the uplink would only allow TWO sends each day with the current static setup. It's a little early, so I am not sure how the TWO sends would affect a dynamic rotation - ERIC? Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 83 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/26/93 12:25a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> with. If we had to send 75 megs a day what is your window BG> time to pick something up? Considering that we can only move BG> a little over 6 megs an hour. Ok, who is the rocket BG> scientist out there? We get 99% of the backbone load in Dallas. Last week, we got 51 meg of Zip v2.04'd echomail from 396/1. That's a little over 7 meg a day. If there are 5 meg (probably an overestimate) a day of filebone files, that would be 12 meg a day to be sent. If you can send out 6 meg an hour, then keeping 48 hours worth of mail and files in a dynamic circulation should be possible. That's only four hours. After each "send" period, any new echomail and files could be added to the rotation, and any echomail and files that are over 48 hours old could be removed. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * V32b/H14 (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 84 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/26/93 2:54p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TJ> I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a > TJ> days mail. And I don't want to have to call longdistance for > TJ> it. If my system did nothing but get mail that is a > TJ> differnt story. I have another life besides BBS'ing 24hours > TJ> a day, and that envolves some TV watching. > There are alternatives to once-a-day mail that provide the > ability to grab mail once per day. If PC's twice-a-day proposal > meant that instead of a 7am-7pm rotation followed by a 7pm-7am, > there would be two overlapping 24-hour rotations (ie, > UPLD_7AM.LST and UPLD_7PM.LST) with each rotation being updated > once a day, you'd still be able to turn on your receiver once > per day and catch everything, as no bundles would ever spend > less than 24 hours in rotation. Problem is planet connect will continue to grow and soon with the usenet groups AND fido and files it will not be feasable to do that. Your system will be busy getting all this stuff as it is. Lets get more stuff to fill the time rather than shortening the time. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 > That would at least be preferable to once-per-day > replenishing... > TJ> MAYBE in the future when there are utilities written to > TJ> AUTOMATICLY see what packets came in and see which one > TJ> didn't and have the system call for the ones that didn't > TJ> make it. But at the present time lets keep it simple and as > TJ> little as possible to screw up. > That's a snap. I'll write that one to-nite! > =Eric > --- timEd/B8 > * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 85 To: JOHN REYNOLDS Date: 09/26/93 3:10p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > choose from now), I sure would spring for the extra $300 for a > separate dish I didn't have to worry about resetting after I was > done with my TV watching. Kinda like running a BBS on your voice > line - might look like saving money but a real stupid idea for a > serious sysop just to save the cost of an extra line. Many of > the Sysops around here have been installing second data lines > just to help move the fidonet mail locally! Hmmmmmmmmmm... At that price, I might just have to do this. But after a few months. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 86 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 09/26/93 3:12p Subj: mail frequency Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> No I am sure MOST don't want to pay another $10 a month! >> The whole idea is to keep costs down. And if it would cost >> us more than I am even MORE against it than before. > While I wouldn't relish the idea of doing so either, Tim, > consider the fact that if you're hubbing mail for any number of > nodes, you likely couldn't pick up your mail via landline for > $50.00 per month. > --)@ Patty @(-- No kidding, But lets not get stupid and tell them to raise our prices until this system is not economically cheaper. And the more people talk about how cheap things are the more the prices go up. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 87 To: ROB NELSON Date: 09/24/93 10:18a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rob Nelson wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> It is noted guy. Thanks for the input! RN> I would like to say that after my original post Eric Fisher RN> came up with what looks like a feasable routine of file RN> rotation that might work for even us half and half dish RN> junkies. I like John Morano's idea of timestamping the files RN> to be deleted after a specified time while continuously RN> adding new files to the data stream. Just timestamping the files wouldn't be enough for you half-and-halfers. What if the combination of an enourmous file hatch and the addition of usenet & RIME made the rotation so large that it took 12+ hours to get from start to finish? By the second time many files came around, they'd be beyond their 24 hour shelf life. That's why I also recommended a counter to be associated with each file which would be initially set to the minimum number of times it should be sent. For a file to be removed from the rotation, it would have to be beyond it's expiration date *and* have been transmitted at least as many times as its counter was set to. RN> So long as the window isn't more than say 8-10 hours per day RN> to collect everything we would have a dynamic schedule where RN> we could collect the data anytime. The fixed schedule is the RN> problem. I don't mind the current one so much because it RN> occurs at a time when I'm not using the dish for TV viewing. RN> I think most people would like to be able to receive RN> everything while they're asleep or at work. A dynamic RN> rotation would allow this for everyone, dayshift, RN> nightshift, it wouldn't matter. As you say, with the windows RN> getting smaller as more is added to the stream, a dynamic RN> rotation seems more and more logical. More work for you RN> guys, but a better system in the long run. A couple of Sundays ago, one of the OS2 file echoes hatched 6 1.2MB disk images, causing the Planet Connect rotation to balloon. This meant a longer time to run from start-to-finish, and approached the 8-10 hour window you referred to. There's no way you can be sure that a pre-determined 10-hour window of collection will capture one entire turn of files. RN> P.S. Hope what I said makes some sence, it's been a long RN> day, mumble mumble, g'nite. Perfectly clear, Rob! =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2106) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 88 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/25/93 12:46a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eric Fisher wrote in a message to Rob Nelson: RN> I for one vote NO! I use my dish for TV purposes as well as RN> Planet Connect. As it stands now I have to catch the data RN> stream twice to get everything. A second feed is fine for RN> someone with a dedicated dish, but it's not practical for RN> the rest of us. EF> You need to go back and re-read my proposal, as well as that EF> of John Morano. Actually I wrote my reply before receiving yours. As I said in a message to Boyd last night your proposal as well as John's would be viable solutions to the problem I, and others face with a static schedule. Cheers, Rob --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 89 To: ERIC FISHER Date: 09/27/93 9:10p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a little disturbing, frankly. To know that the $40/month for Fido > gradually buys you less and less bandwidth. Seriously, at what point do > you stop selling tickets to an already oversold show? When you've got > 75MB to send, whether staggered *or* simultaneous, wouldn't you be > looking at getting more transponder space? Considering that we will be able to handle 155 megs in a 24 hour period we will eventualy have to go to a send as it is received situation. When this happens you will then have to have a dedicated system. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 90 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 09/27/93 9:13p Subj: Re: Wall Street Journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd, Hey Dave! How's the dog?? > Can you get USA Today and the Wall Street Journal for us??? We are working on the USA Today thing. Never thought of the Journal. Have to check into that! > The Ku-band receiver is providing an ERROR FREE link here! No big rain storms yet eh? > Thanks for all your help! Tell Joe thanks for me! No problem. Thats what we are here for. You will have to get your buddy over and show him what he missed! ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 91 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/27/93 9:28p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you can send out 6 meg an hour, then keeping 48 hours worth of > mail and files in a dynamic circulation should be possible. That's only > four hours. Yes but as "OTHER" data is added to the stream you can not do that. To repeat everything twice in a 24 hour period means you could not send more than 77 megs of data. If you go over that then something has to be left out of the loop. > After each "send" period, any new echomail and files could be added > to the rotation, and any echomail and files that are over 48 hours old > could be removed. If you had 90 megs to send then there will be 13 megs that will not be sent the second time. So the only other alternative to to send it as you receive it with a possible repeat but having no way of calculating at what time that repeat will be. Thus you would have to have a dedicated system. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 92 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/27/93 9:29p Subj: Re: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I hope this ends up not being too much work for you, but fresh echomail > is a definite bonus. Nobody said it was going to be easy but we will eventually have to go with a system like that. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 93 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 09/27/93 9:35p Subj: Re: Mail Flow Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Knew you would be, that's what is so nice about working with a company > that is doing this full time and not just as a hobby, SERVICE !!! and no > matter how much griping you get from the others I think the SERVICE has > been GREAT.... Thanks for the comment. And NO folks, we dont have him on the payrole, just incase anyone was wondering. > the uplink is but if you could tie it directly to a 56 KB or 115K it > would sure beat the pants of having to pass everything upsteam at 14.4 > ;-) We will be using ISDN lines once the CO gets thier acted together. Our eventual goal is to uplink from our office so we could have the compressed bundles being processed right on the transmitting computer and quequed up within a couple of minutes. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 94 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 09/27/93 9:45p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd! Hello Rick and welcome. > BG> for Fido mail and files now will not be so big! > How big will it be? Well the Usenet in non-compressed format is about 50 to 60 megs. We will be compressing then down to maybe 20 or 25 megs (rough guess). Now also I was just thinking. If we went to 2 feeds a day, every 12 hours, then our bandwith for the 12 hour window goes down to 77 megs. Now if you want everything to repeat at least twice that cuts the bandwith down to 38.5 megs. That would just about put us at our limit for each feed so the only other alternative would be dynamically adding files. Interesting! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 95 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/27/93 10:04p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you can send out 6 meg an hour, then keeping 48 hours worth of > mail and files in a dynamic circulation should be possible. That's only > four hours. > After each "send" period, any new echomail and files could be added > to the rotation, and any echomail and files that are over 48 hours old > could be removed. But the loophole is that the Usenet Newsgroups inbetween will be 50 or so megs a day (compressed down to 20-30 megs). At 6 megs an hour amounts to a rotation that is very near the proposed 2x rotation. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.0+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 96 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/26/93 7:20a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 22 Sep 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Murray Pletsch: BG> Anyway for the finer points, hope everyone does not forget that once BG> we start sending the Usenet Groups that the wide window that is avaible BG> for Fido mail and files now will not be so big! How big will it be? Rick, the not yet buyer! --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 97 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/27/93 1:24a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday September 19 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Clay Tinsley: Hello Boyd! BG> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you out there BG> that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to 2 feeds per 24 BG> hours, at what time would it be best to refresh the flow. Now remember BG> that we have to send everything to the uplink via modem so that takes BG> time. Also if you miss anything there will be less chance of picking it up BG> again since the retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does BG> everyone say? I'm running my dish full time so the more often the mail comes through the better. actually, I worked through the logic of some of the messages later on in this batch i got (only poll once a week) If i write a message to you at noon, and send it to you midnight, it will show up on the dish at 7-9am the next day EVERYWHERE. thats a one day turn around for my message. these boys whining about stale old 24 hour mail is bs. the normal turn around for mail from bc, canada to miami, FLorida is 3 days. the satalite wins 2 days under par (once miami is running a dish of course ) plus a HUGE savings..our net polls John 3 times a day everyday for a total cost of 400-450 bucks...PC wins on cost..so "stale crap" just aint a good enough argument to force the part time feeders into running their system all the time. (my opinion anyways :)) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 98 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/27/93 1:29a Subj: PCUTILS Filearea. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday September 19 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to All: Hello Boyd! BG> Please add PCUTILS to your tic areas. This area will be for utility BG> programs for the Planet Connect or if you have an information file BG> pertaining to planet connect that you would like to pass on to the rest of BG> the users. Just send anything you want to be redistributed to everyone BG> when you are dropping off mail and I will get it up onto the bird with its BG> own tic file. I kinda prefered the \skydata\personal directory approach. I look in there all the time for stuff (never find any but its fun to look :)) now I've got to make the netfileguy send me back any pcutil tics...grin..workin in circles :)) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 99 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/27/93 1:31a Subj: mail frequency Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday September 19 1993, Clay Tinsley writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello Clay! CT> Nets 124 and 130 are large, over 350 nodes, and feed several smaller CT> nets as well. All feed from one machine, 124/1. This machine polls CT> 396/1 four times a day, five on weekends. CT> We'd seriously like you to consider adding a second process to the CT> loop, 12 hours from the first one. If you have reasons for not doing CT> this, I'd like to hear them. We are very serious about dropping our $200 CT> a month backbone modem feed for satellite mail, but hate the associated CT> delays and its affect on such a large group. the delays arent that serious, see my message to boyd. the satalite beats out land lines flat with a one day turn around. the average turn around for land line is 3 days in my experiences. thats with our net polling 396/1 3 times a day. doesnt speed things up that much..just spreads out the processing. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 100 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 09/28/93 10:40p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > these boys whining about stale old 24 hour mail is bs. the normal turn > around for mail from bc, canada to miami, FLorida is 3 days. the satalite > wins 2 days under par (once miami is running a dish of course ) > plus a HUGE savings..our net polls John 3 times a day everyday for a So all we got to do is get every fidonet node out there on the dish and everyone is happy including me! Well exspecialy me cause then I could retire! ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 101 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 09/28/93 10:47p Subj: Re: PCUTILS Filearea. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I kinda prefered the \skydata\personal directory approach. I look in > there all the time for stuff (never find any but its fun to look :)) now > I've got to make the netfileguy send me back any pcutil > tics...grin..workin in circles :)) Ok well we kind of left that one for MAJOR upgrades to the software. With the PCUTILS filearea it will just be for the utiities. I know what you are saying but not everyone has it set up like you. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WHITT Number: 102 To: TODD LYONS Date: 09/27/93 5:34p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a msg of <24 Sep 93>, Todd Lyons writes to Boyd Goodin: TL> After watching the debate, I have settled upon the conclusion that I TL> would like to see the mail bundles dynamically sent. Meaning, as they TL> are packed, put them into the queue at the uplink site. TL> Every time your computer sends the signal to ours to exit and process TL> mail, it can "adopt" those new bundles, delete old bundles (based on TL> age...some record keeping will need to be done on the uplink site to TL> accomplish this), and restart the uplink process... TL> I hope this ends up not being too much work for you, but fresh TL> echomail is a definite bonus. Not meaning to be combative here, but if those of us linked into PC have to dedicate our dish to mail service - some of us (maybe most of us) will leave the service. I am aware that some PC subscribers have a dedicated dish - but most of us do not. I have never heard of anyone being so acute about up-to-the-minute mail. If you are that keen on the idea, do you have a dedicated phone line & a hook into Internet? Fido mail is ASSUMED to take 24-72 hours turnaround...to say that we must all stay aimed at G3 24 hours per day is not a resonable thing --- is this what you are suggesting here, or have I missed something? Robert --- GoldED 2.31 * Origin: Live via Satellite from the Earth Station (1:3645/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 103 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 09/29/93 1:15p Subj: mail frequency Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > No kidding, But lets not get stupid and tell them to raise > our prices until this system is not economically cheaper. Not saying that at all, Tim, just pointing out that there are other factors to consider. --)@ Patty @(-- P.S. Long time no type! --- InterMail 2.22 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 104 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 09/29/93 9:24p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Robert! > Not meaning to be combative here, but if those of us linked into PC have > to dedicate our dish to mail service - some of us (maybe most of us) > will leave the service. I am aware that some PC subscribers have a > dedicated dish - but most of us do not. I have never heard of anyone I didn't really believe that there were that many that didn't have it dedicated. > being so acute about up-to-the-minute mail. If you are that keen on the > idea, do you have a dedicated phone line & a hook into Internet? Fido I have a dedicated computer and dish to the satellite. I'll get whatever comes in, but not return it until between the hours of 5pm and 8am (when my long distance runs at 10 cents/min). > mail is ASSUMED to take 24-72 hours turnaround...to say that we must all > stay aimed at G3 24 hours per day is not a resonable thing --- is this > what you are suggesting here, or have I missed something? I think it is what I am suggesting. I guess the best comparison is this: Do you share your voice line and BBS line? I don't want to dissuade anybody from getting the service. I know that this is the best thing to happen to our net since dirt was invented. Even if all mail is 24 hours old, it was better than the 40% of the backbone we were getting before. But, I will hanker for mail that is more up to date. And more of it, in the case of hte UseNet newsgroups. Just remember, that I'm not being combative either :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 105 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/29/93 8:40a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Here's a scenario, at 7:30 am you start to get new mail and files. -> Now during the day more files and mail are added to the -> data-stream. This will also include the news groups when we get them going. -> As the day goes by it will take longer and longer -> for the files that were put in at 7:30 am to come around again. So as you -> add more data to the stream it decreases the repeat -> time of the files you started out with. If we had to send 75 -> megs a day what is your window time to pick something up? -> Considering that we can only move a little over 6 megs an hour. Ok, who is -> the rocket scientist out there? Well, Boyd, I'm no rocket scientist, but I can see where we get data bound.... However, I'm just picking up properly now (and tossing under the right address now). I have a few questions. What is the length of the gap between transmission windows? And can we make arrangements for non-essential stuff to be transmitted for the first bit of the window? The main reason for these questions is that I'm using a dedicated 286-12 to read the satellite and find that it takes it an in-ordinate amount of time to move stuff from the local drive to one of the network drives. Either a longer Gap (say 15-20 minutes) or inconsequential stuff (like the TV listing repeats or satellite pics) would be of great assistance. At any rate, I am new and these questions have probably been asked before. Thanks in advance, Jeff Olesen Viking's Cove. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 106 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/29/93 8:46a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Considering that we will be able to handle 155 megs in a 24 hour -> period we will eventualy have to go to a send as it is received situation. -> When this happens you will then have to have a -> dedicated system. I should think that by the time this happens, a higher speed option should be easily available. Technology doesn't hold still for anyone. You would then be able to open a second transponder at a higher speed for those of us with dedicated dishes and a die-hard attitude . Jeff O. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 107 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/29/93 8:49a Subj: Re: wall street journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > The Ku-band receiver is providing an ERROR FREE link here! -> -> No big rain storms yet eh? I am also running KU here and we have had nothing but storms for the last 5 days. No noticeable increase in errors whatsoever. Pretty sure my errors are caused by mis-alignment of the LNB anyway. I did however play it safe and spent the extra $50 on a 4 foot dish with twice the reflector area. Seems to have paid off. For those interested, I am located on the north shore of Lake Ontario. For a baby technology, it seems to be off and running already. I'm impressed with it. Jeff O. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 108 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 09/29/93 5:14a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Whitt wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: RW> Hello Todd! RW> In a msg of <24 Sep 93>, Todd Lyons writes to Boyd Goodin: TL> After watching the debate, I have settled upon the conclusion that I TL> would like to see the mail bundles dynamically sent. Meaning, as they TL> are packed, put them into the queue at the uplink site. RW> Not meaning to be combative here, but if those of us linked RW> into PC have to dedicate our dish to mail service - some of RW> us (maybe most of us) will leave the service. I am aware RW> that some PC subscribers have a dedicated dish - but most of RW> us do not. I have never heard of anyone being so acute about I have a dedicated dish! I won't use the echomail as it is too slow, once or even twice a day is not going to be 'fresh' enough. As an 'END NODE' on the satellite, then once a day might be the ticket, but as a HUB who must service other HUBS, Netmail and Echomail must be moved as often as possible. Currently, I connect with another Zone Hub, every 3 hours, to exchange mail... Just another point of view... now the FILES and USENET... another matter Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 109 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/01/93 7:27p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JO> it takes it an in-ordinate amount of time to move stuff from JO> the local drive to one of the network drives. Either a JO> longer Gap (say 15-20 minutes) or inconsequential stuff Jeff, PCUtils was made for networks, and will move the files off your dedicated node on the fly from any other node, and will allow you to bring the PCMAIN program right back on line after the exit. That's unless they have decided to change it along with everything else.... John........ --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 110 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/01/93 7:35p Subj: dead feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, you get my netmail message, I may not be able to receive but I can sure send stuff out.............. John......... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: * Genesis * 391 Hub/Satellite Downlink * (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 111 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/01/93 11:29p Subj: Planet connect echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it possible to make the Planet Connect Echo a public echo on my BBS in case anyone wanted to chat about Planet Connect? If I understand a previous post, from a while back, it stated we would be using PCSITES for a private echo for systems already connected to Planet Connect, right? --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 112 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/02/93 8:06a Subj: wall street journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > For a baby technology, it seems to be off and running already. I'm > impressed with it. They have been doing this for a couple of months. They got most of the bugs out before we came around > -> No big rain storms yet eh? > I am also running KU here and we have had nothing but storms for the > last 5 days. No noticeable increase in errors whatsoever. Pretty sure my > errors are caused by mis-alignment of the LNB anyway. I did however play > it safe and spent the extra $50 on a 4 foot dish with twice the > reflector area. Seems to have paid off. For those interested, I am Hmmm the possibility of going Ku is somewhat interesting. I would have to spend money for that though :( Money that i don't have... See y Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 113 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/02/93 8:12a Subj: Changing PC transmission. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I wish that you would have given us a LITTLE more warning about the change. Also, when you are going to change the PCINFO.TXT (especially when it comes to something real important) kindly let us know. OR if you prefer me to monitor it, I can. I hadn't before because in the two months that I've been here, it had changed once (before the 29th) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WHITT Number: 114 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/02/93 11:06a Subj: vote Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! BG>> Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a lot of you BG>> out there that still use your dish for viewing TV so if we go to BG>> 2 feeds per 24 hours, at what time would it be best to refresh BG>> the flow. Now remember that we have to send everything to the BG>> uplink via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss anything BG>> there will be less chance of picking it up again since the BG>> retransmitting time would be cut in half. What does everyone say? I vote to have the changeover time occur at 3am and 3pm - this way, those of us who listen overnight can capture both feeds and still not tell the family to keep their hands off the reciever when they are awake. If this is done, any feed between 3am & 3pm is 'first' mail, 3pm to 3am is 2nd shift stuff and THAT schedule would cut right thru the middle of anybody's tune-in time - both full and part-time listeners alike. Robert --- GoldED 2.31 * Origin: Live via Satellite from the Earth Station (1:3645/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WHITT Number: 115 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/02/93 11:16a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a msg of <29 Sep 93>, Todd Lyons writes to Robert Whitt: TL> I didn't really believe that there were that many that didn't have it TL> dedicated. I could be wrong, but I would guess that probably half of us just didn't see fit to go and buy another dish for Planet Connect . TL> I have a dedicated computer and dish to the satellite. I'll get TL> whatever comes in, but not return it until between the hours of 5pm TL> and 8am (when my long distance runs at 10 cents/min). Understood - I hadn't really planned on popping down another $800/$900 for a dedicated dish for this "hobby", but then - I hadn't planned to spend several thousand dollars on hardware for it either (to begin with). TL> I think it is what I am suggesting. I could agree with you if the majority of users are found to have a dedicated dish - and, if THAT is the case, I will have to go with the majority and buy a dedicated dish - but if the majority do not have such a setup, it would be folly to require everyone to try to keep such a schedule. TL> I guess the best comparison is this: Do you share your voice line and TL> BBS line? No, but a telephone line does not require a $600 to $1200 dollar investment. TL> I don't want to dissuade anybody from getting the service. I know TL> that this is the best thing to happen to our net since dirt was TL> invented. Even if all mail is 24 hours old, it was better than the TL> 40% of the backbone we were getting before. But, I will hanker for TL> mail that is more up to date. And more of it, in the case of hte TL> UseNet newsgroups. I appreciate your point, but I had to speak up for those of us who have not dedicated a dish to thier BBS/Mail - and until I find out otherwise, I will assume that those are the majority. Your proposal would be fine if *all* of the users have a dedicated dish. Robert --- GoldED 2.31 * Origin: Live via Satellite from the Earth Station (1:3645/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 116 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 10/01/93 11:25a Subj: Satellite schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Not meaning to be combative here, but if those of us linked into PC have to -> dedicate our dish to mail service - some of us (maybe -> most of us) will leave the service. I am aware that some PC -> subscribers have a dedicated dish - but most of us do not. I -> have never heard of anyone being so acute about -> up-to-the-minute mail. If you are that keen on the idea, do you have a Most of us are in fact SYSOPS trying to cut our LD bills. My LD alone is $252.88 this month. I jsut turned the dish on a week ago, and I expect next months bill to be about $120. There are still a few nets to get started yet and I expect to be down around $80 per month. This means the system will pay for it's $900 price tag in about 6-10 months. And I'm getting 10 times the traffic inbound plus files. Acuteness has nothing to do with it. Simple economics. -> dedicated phone line & a hook into Internet? Fido mail is ASSUMED to take For me at least, turn around is not an issue. Skaal, White Viking -}-----¯ 8) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 117 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/01/93 11:26a Subj: Satellite schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW> dedicated phone line & a hook into Internet? Fido mail is ASSUMED to take For me at least, turn around is not an issue. RW> 24-72 hours turnaround...to say that we must RW> all stay aimed at G3 24 hours per day is not a resonable thing RW> --- is this what you are suggesting here, or have I missed something? Boyd: Suggestion. Can you set up the C-band uplink for timed users and leave the K-band free-running? I think that most of the user's of K-Band will have dedicated systems simply because it is so new. Whereas the C-bander's probably already had the dish for watching the football/hockey games 24-hours a day. I am running K-band and obviously favor free-running, although with a longer gap in transmission to allow moving the stuff off the local drives onto the network drives for processing by another system. My 286-12 with an MFM drive can't tolerate another system accessing it's drives while linked to the bird and it's is slow as molasses transferring the files to the network. Also can't link to the bird and save to the network drives. I will be replacing the 386-12 with an SX-40 shortly and that may solve my problem. But I suspect not everyone can afford to throw money at the problem to solve it. Skaal, White Viking -}-----¯ ÷8) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 118 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/01/93 3:19a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 27 Sep 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Eric Fisher: BG> Considering that we will be able to handle 155 megs in a 24 hour period BG> we will eventualy have to go to a send as it is received situation. When BG> this happens you will then have to have a dedicated system. Will FidoNet mail pkts be made smaller in that case? Seems like one error, and you never get that mail, if it only comes around once.. Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 119 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 10/03/93 2:18p Subj: Re: Planet connect echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is it possible to make the Planet Connect Echo a public echo on my BBS in > case anyone wanted to chat about Planet Connect? If I understand a > previous post, from a while back, it stated we would be using PCSITES for > a private echo for systems already connected to Planet Connect, right? PLANET_CONNECT is the PUBLIC echo. You can post this echo on your board for your users. PCSITES is for PC system sysops and is private. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 120 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/03/93 2:21p Subj: Re: wall street journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hmmm the possibility of going Ku is somewhat interesting. I would have > to spend money for that though :( Money that i don't have... Also remember that we will trade your C-band data-receiver for a KU-band receiver. All you would have to pay is the shipping. So all you would have to get is everything except the receiver. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 121 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/03/93 2:26p Subj: Re: Changing PC transmission. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I wish that you would have given us a LITTLE more warning about the > change. Also, when you are going to change the PCINFO.TXT (especially I am sorry for what has happened but I did not know till two days prier to the 30th. It was by luck that I caught it at that time. After the 6th any new upgrades to the software will be sent to you over the satellite with suffiencent notice. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 122 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 10/03/93 2:27p Subj: Re: vote Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I vote to have the changeover time occur at 3am and 3pm - this way, those > of us who listen overnight can capture both feeds and still not tell the > family Noted and thanks. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 123 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/03/93 2:28p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Will FidoNet mail pkts be made smaller in that case? Seems like one > error, and you never get that mail, if it only comes around once.. All compressed bundles are between 300 and 400K. For the precise reason you stated above, we keep the bundles that size. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 124 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/03/93 2:37p Subj: Re: Satellite schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd: Suggestion. Can you set up the C-band uplink for timed users and > leave the K-band free-running? I think that most of the user's of K-Band > will have dedicated systems simply because it is so new. Whereas the > C-bander's probably already had the dish for watching the football/hockey > games 24-hours a day. This would not be cost effective. Since the C-band uplink and Ku uplink are in two different states, there would be cost involved the would make it a bit more expensive per month on your end. > I will be replacing the 386-12 with an SX-40 shortly and that may solve > my problem. But I suspect not everyone can afford to throw money at the > problem to solve it. Thats true and hopefully in the future we will have a program that will work in a multi-tasking enviroment. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 125 To: JIM WATSON Date: 10/03/93 2:39p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What happens if you get an error on a particular file then? You lose the file. I dont think that we will ever send 155 megs a day. If we get up that high it would justify having another carrier. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 126 To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 11:14p Subj: UtilNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original to Kevin & Janis at 1:396/1 in "UtilNet" * Forwarded Sun Oct 03 1993 23:37:32 by John Souvestre at 1:396/1 Hello Kevin & Janis. Having read your decision to pull UtilNet from Planet Connect distribution, I'd like to note a few things: 1) This decision made without any discussion by the membership. 2) When Jerry Seward decided to drop UtilNet he said that it was welcome to continue and distribute via any means. On that basis, it was I who suggested that the Filebone continue the area. 3) When Kevin called me to discuss Janis and he heading up the "new" UtilNet the one question I asked was regarding satellite distribution (considering Janis' position on the matter as per PDN). Kevin assured me that UtilNet would remain available for satellite distribution. It seems to me that you have violated the trust put in you by the membership of UtilNet. I call for the membership to express their opinion. If you can't run the area accordingly, then I'd suggest that you resign. Regards, John P.S. I guess that we can start the tally with Janis and Kevin against Planet Connect distribution and John for. --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 127 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 10/03/93 5:10p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not meaning to be combative here, but if those of us linked > into PC have to dedicate our dish to mail service - some of > us (maybe most of us) will leave the service. I am aware > that some PC subscribers have a dedicated dish - but most Dunno about the majority of the deal, Robert, but once we receive our dish & receiver (hint, hint, Boyd!) we'll be running it as a dedicated satellite receiver. Btw, is anyone running the software under OS/2 in a DOS box and if so, how well is it running? Any timing problems? > about up-to-the-minute mail. If you are that keen on the > idea, do you have a dedicated phone line & a hook into > Internet? Fido mail is ASSUMED to take 24-72 hours I wish... Unfortunately T1 connections don't grow on trees or satellite dishes. :sigh: --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.22 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 128 To: ALL Date: 10/03/93 7:55p Subj: Vote??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I see all this stuff about a vote... I must have miss something.. I would vote that IBM give me a new computer But I really dont think it will work. :-) --- WM v3.01/91-0178 * Origin: BlueWater 512-883-7839 BEST BBS in South (1:160/260.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 129 To: ROBERT WHITT Date: 10/04/93 6:59a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! 02 Oct 93, Robert Whitt writes to Todd Lyons: RW> Understood - I hadn't really planned on popping down another $800/$900 for RW> a dedicated dish for this "hobby", but then - I hadn't planned to spend RW> several thousand dollars on hardware for it either (to begin with). I think if you look around, you can find a 2' C Band dish and LNB for a LOT less than $800-$900. If not, I'll be glad to sell you one for $750! RW> No, but a telephone line does not require a $600 to $1200 dollar RW> investment. How much was your bbs computer? Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 130 To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:51p Subj: No Vote Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original to All at 1:396/1 in "UtilNet2" * Forwarded Tue Oct 05 1993 21:09:08 by John Souvestre at 1:396/1 I spoke last night with Kevin Snively. He informed me that no matter how the membership voted he and Janis would not change their mind about not allowing Planet Connect to distribute UtilNet. Based on this a number of us decided to vote with our feet. Please see the following message. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 131 To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 8:53p Subj: UtilNet2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original to All at 1:396/1 in "UtilNet2" * Forwarded Tue Oct 05 1993 21:09:20 by John Souvestre at 1:396/1 Announcing a new file distribution network: Utility Net 2 --------------- Here's the upcoming FILEBONE.NA description: Area UTILNET2 0 ! UtilNet2 FDN: Utility Files ; Temp HeadQuarters: 1:396/1 John Souvestre ; Hatching: 1:2613/333 Jerry Seward ; SysOp Conference: UTILNET2 Jerry Seward, founder of the original UtilNet, has returned and will be hatching current versions of your favorite utilities in UtilNet2. UtilNet2 is freely available via the Filebone and Planet Connect. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 132 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 09/27/93 1:34a Subj: Here we are Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday September 21 1993, Murray Pletsch writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Murray! MP> This is exactly what I will be doing also. Plus relaying the filebone to MP> the NFC. The setup is my personal endeavour and the data will be provided MP> to the net through an agreement. the rec/nec/nfc and myself worked out a rather ingenious way to get the mail to the *EC's both without having to make two copies before sending it (it was our NEC that came up with the idea) Hatch the 0000ffff's to both nodes after I get it..and tic will delete the "passthrough" files after BOTH have received them :)) totally perfect for me. once we start seeing more regular mail and file feeds (still get a missing TIC or FIles once in a while, and the backbone tends to be a little uneven day to day with the amount of mail) the nec and rec will both get a feed of the data and the nfc gets his files. smooth as silk :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 133 To: JOHN REYNOLDS Date: 09/27/93 1:39a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday September 22 1993, John Reynolds writes to Tim Jacobs: Hello John! TJ>> I vote no. One problem with the system and I lose half a TJ>> days mail. And I don't want to have to call longdistance for TJ>> it. If my system did nothing but get mail that is a TJ>> differnt story. I have another life besides BBS'ing 24hours TJ>> a day, and that envolves some TV watching. JR> The cost of a demodulator and a fixed dish are about $600 (as I understand i got my dish cable stand bla bla bla for $500 canadian out of the buynsell. I'm very pleased about that little coup d'etat the receiver was an extra 400+ after exchange and duty JR> mail locally! I think the marketing of the system is going to be to the JR> Nets rather than to individuals. i think you're very correct! :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 134 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/27/93 1:42a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Friday September 24 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Rob Nelson: Hello Boyd! BG> Here's a scenario, at 7:30 am you start to get new mail and files. Now BG> during the day more files and mail are added to the data-stream. This will BG> also include the news groups when we get them going. As the day goes by it BG> will take longer and longer for the files that were put in at 7:30 am to BG> come around again. So as you add more data to the stream it decreases the BG> repeat time of the files you started out with. If we had to send 75 megs a BG> day what is your window time to pick something up? Considering that we can BG> only move a little over 6 megs an hour. well..why not do a mail toss at 5am or whenever..rename all those mail bundles to 7am.mo? and start sending at 7am like normal then after 7am, all mail that gets tossed gets named 7pm.mo? keep transmitting the 7am mail till 7am the next day. keep transmitting the 7pm mail from 7pm to 7pm the next day..that way the parttime users can get everything at least once during the day, where as the "gotta have it instantly crowd" can toss "fresh' mail twice a day. this is just putting method to that other fellows very good idea. BG> Ok, who is the rocket scientist BG> out there? ...Boyd not me :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 135 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 09/28/93 7:34p Subj: Here we are Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ken! Monday September 27 1993, Ken Kavanagh writes to Murray Pletsch: KK> the rec/nec/nfc and myself worked out a rather ingenious way to get the KK> mail to the *EC's both without having to make two copies before sending it KK> (it was our NEC that came up with the idea) Hatch the 0000ffff's to both KK> nodes after I get it..and tic will delete the "passthrough" files after KK> BOTH have received them :)) totally perfect for me. once we start seeing It did require some batch file majik and a util to accomplish. A problem with using Hatch is that when "you" hatch files into a PassThru area Hatch "assumes" you do not really want to delete them after sending, so creates incorrect *.PT files. The batch file corrects this problem.... If you want it, fREQuest PLANETIC.ZIP 26012 09-26-93 We are really looking forward to changing over to SkyLink as opposed to Landline for bringing the mail into Net 153.... Cheers, Ervin NEC, Net 153 ... Cinema should make you forget you are sitting in a theater. - Roman Polanski --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 136 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/05/93 1:48p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What happens if you get an error on a particular file then? BG> BG> You lose the file. I dont think that we will ever If you "lose the file", then it won't be a reliable method of transferring mail bundles... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 137 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 10/06/93 8:13p Subj: UtilNet2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John-- JS> Announcing a new file distribution network: JS> Utility Net 2 JS> -+--+--+--+--+- JS> Jerry Seward, founder of the original UtilNet, has returned and will be JS> hatching current versions of your favorite utilities in UtilNet2. JS> UtilNet2 is freely available via the Filebone and Planet Connect. WAY TO GO, JOHN!!!!!!!! Wow, man, this is really using some clout!!!!! Thank God SOMEONE around here has some sense!!!! I mean, what in the h*ll is wrong with these people? Aren't SHAREWARE/FREEWARE files for the good of us all?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I appreciate you taking an interest in this and doing something about it. And, THANK YOU, Jerry! And, thank God for democracy!!!! Ken --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy 601/453-3963 (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 138 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/05/93 9:47p Subj: UTILNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave James scribbled in a note to Kevin: DJ> This is totally BULL!!! Let's get with the program, the DJ> FILEBONE was designed to help distribute FILES, not get in DJ> the way! DJ> UTILNET was/is OPEN distribution... if you want to keep DJ> restricting how the FILES get moved around, maybe we should DJ> just get someone else that is not so restrictive! DJ> I vote it stays ON the Satellite feed! I can't believe some people are so far back in the dark ages that they try this "restricted" feed stuff. They ought to know in this wonderful electronic world of ours that "where there is a will, there is a way" and their pompus ruling will only get themselves more isolated. Way to go Dave! Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 139 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 10/05/93 11:29p Subj: UtilNet2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre scribbled in a note to All: JS> UtilNet2 is freely available via the Filebone and Planet JS> Connect. Way to go John! Any possibility of something being done about PDN while you are at it :-) Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 140 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 10/06/93 4:54a Subj: No Vote Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I spoke last night with Kevin Snively. He informed me that no matter > how the membership voted he and Janis would not change their mind about > not allowing Planet Connect to distribute UtilNet. > Based on this a number of us decided to vote with our feet. Please see > the following message. Thanks, John!! --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 141 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/04/93 3:53p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Robert Whitt: PP> Btw, is anyone running the software under OS/2 in a DOS PP> box and if so, how well is it running? Any timing problems? I have tried running PC on my BBS machine (running OS/2). The software runs fine, but once you get several things going at once errors start to crop up. I was suprised at how well it did run though. I would imagine that an OS/2 or DV system running a smart serial card such as a Digiboard or equivilent would handle the task just fine. For now I run PC on a dedicated DOS machine. Cheers, Rob --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 142 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/04/93 9:33a Subj: Wall street journal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > it safe and spent the extra $50 on a 4 foot dish with twice the > reflector area. Seems to have paid off. For those interested, I am TL>Hmmm the possibility of going Ku is somewhat interesting. I would have TL>to spend money for that though :( Money that i don't have... I didn't exactly have it either. But my phone bill was fairly ridiculous and the entire system will be paid for in about 6 months just through savings on the phone. If one factors in the increased feed and files, it was paid for in the first week . Skaal, White Viking -}-----¯ === þ DeLuxeý/386 1.25 #7679 þ Borger King: Have it our way, yours is irrelevant. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 143 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/08/93 12:41a Subj: UTILNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > UTILNET was/is OPEN distribution... if you want to keep restricting how > the FILES get moved around, maybe we should just get someone else that > is not so restrictive! > I vote it stays ON the Satellite feed! YES! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 144 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 10/08/93 12:43a Subj: UtilNet2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Original to All at 1:396/1 in "UtilNet2" > * Forwarded Tue Oct 05 1993 21:09:20 by John Souvestre at 1:396/1 > > Announcing a new file distribution network: > Utility Net 2 And we all appreciate it John! Thanks! Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 145 To: JOHN REYNOLDS Date: 10/08/93 12:46a Subj: UtilNet2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JS> UtilNet2 is freely available via the Filebone and Planet > JS> Connect. > Way to go John! Any possibility of something being done about PDN while > you are at it :-) :-) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 146 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/07/93 5:32p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well..why not do a mail toss at 5am or whenever..rename all those mail > bundles to 7am.mo? and start sending at 7am like normal It is workable but how come nobody takes into account that WE have to modem all this stuff up to the uplink. With the current software at the uplink we could not do that as we have to shut the process down, add our files to send, then start the process up. Once we have our uplink software changed to add and transmit files onthe fly then we could do this. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 147 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/07/93 11:29a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I guess the best comparison is this: Do you share your voice line and > BBS line? I know you arn't talking to me but I know many people that do. I also do use my voice line for data. I deliver all mail at night via my voice line. I takes no incoming data but delivers massive mail at night. That way it frees the other 3 lines for users. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 148 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/07/93 12:05p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Btw, is anyone running the software under OS/2 in a DOS box > and if so, how well is it running? Any timing problems? I couldn't get it to work without massive errors. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 149 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/07/93 3:33p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ken! 27 Sep 93, Ken Kavanagh writes to John Reynolds: JR>> mail locally! I think the marketing of the system is going to be to JR>> the Nets rather than to individuals. KK> i think you're very correct! :) Maybe. In our net, the availability of the entire fb/bb at a cheap flat rate has raised the amount of mail each node requests. This has filled up the 24 hour period that our net hub can deliver mail. Because of the increased busy signals, 2 other nodes in our net have plans to put in their own. That, along with the extra "receiving node only services" that are becoming available.. I think INITIALLY it will be a net hub solution, but those with larger systems will tend to start picking up their own dish due to the affordability.. What'cha think? Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 150 To: ROB NELSON Date: 10/08/93 9:36p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The software runs fine, but once you get several things > going at once errors start to crop up. I was suprised at > how well it did run though. I would imagine that an OS/2 or > DV system running a smart serial card such as a Digiboard > or equivilent would handle the task just fine. For now I > run PC on a dedicated DOS machine. I was thinking of running it on a semi-dedicated OS/2 machine with 16550 UARTS, Rob. Semi-dedicated in that it would also be doing periodic backups of the network drives. Thanks much for the info! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.22 * Origin: OS/2: Not just up & coming. Up & Running! (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 151 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/09/93 5:14a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That, along with the extra "receiving node only services" > that are becoming available.. > > I think INITIALLY it will be a net hub solution, but those > with larger systems will tend to start picking up their own > dish due to the affordability.. > > What'cha think? Exactamundo! I am an Asst NEC ( definition=didn't want to be NEC again but offered to help! ) I now bring in the nets mail and pass it over to the NEC for distribution. I, of course, utilize the mail and files (and dying for the InterNet feed, which is why I put the sat dish up) and look forward to the little extras (nat classifieds, TV, etc) as a little excluisve bonus for my MajorBBS system. Net gets the entire backbone at an afforable rate as opposed to phone lines, and I get mail first and the nifty little extras: Everybody wins! But there has been talk of a few others who would like to have their own dish, and I imagine within the next few months Boyd & Joe will have some additional sales here in SW Florida. Randy --- via Satellite/GEcho+ * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 152 To: PLANET CONNECT PEOPLE Date: 10/09/93 6:46a Subj: Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any plans to update that dongle that has to be plugged into the printer port on the Planet Connect dedicated computer? Many people will not have a printer available to be plugged into this computer, and it is my understanding that unless a printer is plugged into the system, AND online all hours of operation, that the system will not function. This would seem to be an unnecessary burden to place on the customer in the name of commercial protection. From this end, I have blown up printer power supplies from having them powered on for long periods of time (specifically Star Micronics, Panasonic, and NEC). As long as the problem printer REMAINS on, it will basically run forever, but if it is ever shut down for any reason (blackouts, moving system, etc), some part of the power supply can be electrically worn and will not hold power on any future attempt to power up. This is a VERY expensive repair on inexpensive printers, and is an unneccessary part of a Planet Connect computer installation (other than for that darn protection device). For example, on my $795 NEC P5 printer, they wanted $520 to repair the power supply. I have only had this problem, and had customers with this problem on printers kept on over a year period of time. But you DO want to encourage long time customers, don't you? Also, with increased data load, the full time dedicated system will fast become a reality, not to mention the lazy bbs sysop likes to set things up and let them run, making them especially susceptible to this problem. Surely there must be some other form of protection for your data stream.. Perhaps a terminated device for those that are not planning on hooking up a printer? Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 153 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 10/07/93 8:58a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Friday October 01 1993, John Morano writes to Jeff Olesen: Hello John! JM> Jeff, PCUtils was made for networks, and will move the files off your JM> dedicated node on the fly from any other node, and will allow you to bring JM> the PCMAIN program right back on line after the exit. from what you say above, can I run Pcutil on another node to move the inbound sat_mail to another machine and immediately bring pccmain backup? I'm running lantastic and from everything I tried, pccmain wont properly recieve when its machine is in server mode (which is the only way I could see running pcutil at the same time from another node) I'd just get errors. HOw are you doing this to not get errors once pccmain is backup?? The only way I can see the dedicated sat computer being a server as well, is for PC to add 16550 UART support to pccmain.exe. Currently I can teven force the buffering on and see the software use it. Once they add that, then multitasking is a breeze. :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 154 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/10/93 1:12p Subj: Re: Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > not have a printer available to be plugged into this computer, and it is > my understanding that unless a printer is plugged into the system, AND > online all hours of operation, that the system will not function. This No! If you just plug the dongle into the printer port and dont have a printer hooked up then it will work ok. If you have a printer inline with the dongle then and only then would you be required to have to have the printer on. When the dongle is the only thing hooked to the printer port you do not need a printer what so ever. > Surely there must be some other form of protection for your data stream.. > Perhaps a terminated device for those that are not planning on hooking up > a printer? As I stated you do not need a printer hooked up at all. My main system just has the dongle in it and it runs with no problems. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 155 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/10/93 9:55a Subj: Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick Ashworth wrote in a message to Planet Connect People: RA> dedicated computer? Many people will not have a printer RA> available to be plugged into this computer, and it is my RA> understanding that unless a printer is plugged into the RA> system, AND online all hours of operation, that the system RA> will not function. This would seem to be an unnecessary I have a 'doggle', no printer attached, works flawlessly... the problem that I have noticed, is that IF you do have a printer attached, it must be ON at all times... they are working on that... I just dropped the printer cable, and all is well, of course, I have 3 other machines to run a printer from Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 156 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/10/93 2:13p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm running lantastic and from everything I tried, pccmain wont properly > recieve when its machine is in server mode (which is the only way I Hell at least you could get it to run. Would lock up my server as soon as it came up. > could see running pcutil at the same time from another node) I'd just > get errors. HOw are you doing this to not get errors once pccmain is If you have a spare machine and network card (can be a 286 or even an XT) just have the satellite computer dump it to a dedicated server's hard drive. Then have a copy of FD or something sitting on that XT. Write a semaphore which causes it to drop and do the mail. As long as all the stuff is on the server, all nodes can access it. It's slow as hell, but it does work... > backup?? The only way I can see the dedicated sat computer being a > server as well, is for PC to add 16550 UART support to pccmain.exe. > Currently I can teven force the buffering on and see the software use > it. Once they add that, then multitasking is a breeze. :) Yes I'd love to see it running under DV over here, but I think that would slow down my system so much that it's really not a top priority over here... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 157 To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 12:45p Subj: DISK ACCESS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have PC up and running and I am wondering what this is doing to the life of my harddrive. Anyone have any ideas as how to keep the program from writing to the disk every block? It is my understanding that you cannot use a disk cache. Also have intermitent problem getting a large amount of errors. Seems the only way to correct it is to kill power to the PC receiver and bringing it back up. It seems as if the afc circuit has stopped working. It seems to take a long time for it to lock back on tke freq. once you power back up. Once it does it works error free for some time. There is no noticeable drop in the signal level as displayed by the meter. Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 158 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/11/93 1:23p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Ken Kavanagh: TL> Yes I'd love to see it running under DV over here, but I TL> think that would slow down my system so much that it's TL> really not a top priority over here... I have been running under DV for about 3 weeks now and it seems to be working without a flaw. The newer software that we started running OCT 6 even runs much better under dv because the increased speed doesn't hog the cpu time so long. I don't have a 16550 uart buffer but I believe it would be a good idea to get one. If you run a cd rom disc it may cause problems for dv/Planet Connect because they tend to freeze the system a little too long. I found that setting my tics to 1 and 1 worked best. It prevented errors when copying to a floppy disc or changing windows. I'm running on a 40 mhz 386. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 159 To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 12:52a Subj: Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All, Just a report on my system and what it is doing. I'm located on the north-shore of Lake Ontario and getting fine reception. My reception quality is down to 3 9's because of a damaged dish (I am a klutz and seem to have warped or mis-assembled the dish).Anyone have any ideas on how to re-align the the LNB? Now on to other problems. 1) Time interval. I am currrently running Planet-Connect on a 386SX-40 single-tasking under Little Big Lan with 10Mb NE2000 EtherNet cards. The problem I have is speed. I cannot write to a LAN drive without errors. I have to write to a local drive and then transfer to the LAN drive. This means minimum 5 minutes on a light day and up to 20 minutes on a heavy day to transfer the files to a LAN drive. Under NO circumstances can any other machine access the satellite local drive while download is being done. With or without a 16550 installed (to make the 16550 work, install a fossil). I am losing files at the start of the cycle because of this. Has anyone else overcome any of part of this problem?? 2) PCUtils: Needs to be expanded. It is a lovely program that works exactly as intended. One suggestion for improvement would be to add in other areas. Right now it only processes the FILES are for FIDO and FILEBONE stuff. Would like to see handling for QWK (and yes, I can see how difficult it could be with the same filenames every day). I currently have batch files set up, but they are not infallible and I am relying on many semaphore files to to keep collisions to a minimum. 3) TV and weather stuff. I believe this stuff is for posting on our boards right?? Well, we need some sort of file descriptor to be sent along with them to allow automatic tossing via TICK. Anyone got any suggestions on how to handle these areas? I am doing it manually right now and do not intend to continue doing so. 4) Reception errors. As I said, my reception is down to 3 9's and I get errors on long files. We had one file come in today that is 6.25Mb long. I had 3-5 errors in each attempt to get that one. I would like to see the system adapted to allow a record to be kept for each file that had an error and then be able to combine two or more bad files with MARKED bad records to generate a single good one. I realize it would be a rather monumental task to track the errors, but I also think it would be worth it. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 160 To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 7:05p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! Center of the Cosmos is trying to carry this conference for all the fine folks in Mobile Alabama. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 161 To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 12:38a Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! I'm still trying to get my retrun mail to work... --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK STENNETT Number: 162 To: FRANK SCHEEL Date: 10/11/93 7:30a Subj: DISK ACCESS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FS> I have PC up and running and I am wondering what this is FS> doing to the life of my harddrive. Anyone have any ideas as FS> how to keep the program from writing to the disk every FS> block? It is my understanding that you cannot use a disk FS> cache. It can't be any worse than chucking the backbone... :) --- timEd-B9 * Origin: DATAMAZE CONSOLE (1:203/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 163 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/11/93 1:01p Subj: DONGLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I have a 'doggle', no printer attached, works flawlessly... the problem >that I have noticed, is that IF you do have a printer attached, it must be >ON at all times... they are working on that... I just dropped the printer If I have this right... So first I have to buy a printer card for the receiver system. Then I can't connect a printer even if I *want* to. This is getting ugly real fast. I can't run the receiver on a machine without a parallel port. I can't run a printer on the parallel port when I install it unless it's powered up 24 hours a day -- mine is a 300+ watt laser! And to top it off I have to dedicate a machine full-time to the receiver because it doesn't know about buffered UARTs. Will one of the Planet Connect representatives say something soothing or technical that explains all these troubles away as a simple misunderstanding? Pretty please. My dish is in. Finally. Isn't sudden growth grand? --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 164 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/12/93 2:37p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello all! > I'm still trying to get my retrun mail to work... Looks like it's working Terry. How's the pre-owned CD ROM Drive business going? The drives I got from you are still going strong! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 165 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/11/93 7:19p Subj: Re: dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As I stated you do not need a printer hooked up at all. My main -> system just has the dongle in it and it runs with no problems. May not be entirely correct Boyd. I was building a new 386sx40 system to use for the satellite and I had to exchange my AT I/O card for another one because the first one didn't like the dongle. I don't recall the error message, but a printer worked in the port so it wasn't defective. Jeff O. Viking's Cove. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * (613)394-5919 * Trenton ON Canada (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 166 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/12/93 12:39p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello all! > > I'm still trying to get my retrun mail to work... > Gee terry, keep tryin!..I'll let you know when it gets here.. :>) (yea, I know, theres one in every crowd) Randy *ASTRO* BBS --- via Satellite/GEcho+ * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 167 To: FRANK SCHEEL Date: 10/12/93 1:07p Subj: DISK ACCESS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have PC up and running and I am wondering what this is doing to the > life of my harddrive. Anyone have any ideas as how to keep the program > from writing to the disk every block? It is my understanding that you > cannot use a disk cache. If a hard drive is spinning, it's spinning. It's not going to make a whole lot of difference writing one block at a time, or moving it all in one chunk (which it does anyway) > Also have intermitent problem getting a large amount of errors. Seems > the only way to correct it is to kill power to the PC > receiver and bringing it back up. It seems as if the afc circuit has > stopped working. It seems to take a long time for it to lock back on > tke freq. once you power back up. Once it does it works error free for > some time. There is no noticeable drop in the signal level as displayed > by the meter. Check your polarity. That's what caused it on mine. When I adjusted mine all errors went away... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 168 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/12/93 1:15p Subj: Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3) TV and weather stuff. I believe this stuff is for posting on our > boards right?? Well, we need some sort of file descriptor to be sent > along with them to allow automatic tossing via TICK. Anyone got any > suggestions on how to handle these areas? I am doing it manually right > now and do not intend to continue doing so. From my bat file: copy c:\skydata\weather c:\skydata\weather.sav YEARDAY C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER\WEATHMAP.ARC YEARDAY C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER\RADAR.ARC YEARDAY C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER\SATELITE.ARC COPY C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER M:\FILES\WEATHER ECHO Y|DEL C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER Then in my bbs: Lyons' Den BBS---The Lake Area's [-] Return to File Menu Source for up to date Weather Maps [!] Logoff the BBS [1] Download the most recent radar map [2] Download the most recent weather forecast [3] Download the most recent satellite photos [4] Download SHOW.EXE (to view the *.PCX pics) [F] List Archived Files (Tag to Download) [R] Raw Listing of Current Weather Maps [D] Begin Download of Tagged Files Note: Extension is *.ARC but use PKUnzip to extract. (^~ min^): Numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 do a direct download of the files that I copied over to the weather.sav subdir. F shows the listing of the files that YEARDAY changed the extension of. R shows a raw subdir of the weather.sav subdir. D starts the download of the tagged files. > 4) Reception errors. As I said, my reception is down to 3 9's and I get > errors on long files. We had one file come in today that is 6.25Mb long. > I had 3-5 errors in each attempt to get that one. I would like to see > the system adapted to allow a record to be kept for each file that had > an error and then be able to combine two or more bad files with MARKED > bad records to generate a single good one. I realize it would be a > rather monumental task to track the errors, but I also think it would be > worth it. Adjust your pitch, angle, and polarity and see if those don't go away. Are you Ku or C band? (G4 or G3 satellite) I would also definitely invest in a 16550. I also load a fossil driver (for what good it does) and lock the port at 19200. It doesn't really use it just yet (I don't think) but it will be there if and when fossil/16550 support is ever added. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 169 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 10/12/93 9:10p Subj: FILE AREA TITLES.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> Anyway, I've been trying to make head nor tail out of CW> all the tic files, an the filearea.cur file only lists CW> the area tags. Could you possibly provide us a list of CW> what each of these areas area? What is SURVDIFF? SV_* SurvDiff and SV are the Survival Network file sections. For a complete list of what's being shipped up via the Filebone or most other echos, grab you a copy of Filebone.Na Cheers --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Dogs crawl under fences... Software crawls under Windows! (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 170 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/11/93 8:59a Subj: DONGLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any plans to update that dongle that has to be plugged > into the printer port on the Planet Connect dedicated computer? > Many people will not have a printer available to be plugged into > this computer, and it is my understanding that unless a printer is Rick, I do not have a printer plugged into mine and it works just fine.. --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 171 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/12/93 8:16p Subj: PROBLEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff, I am running the sat on a 386x40 as a workstation on a Novell Net ware Lite. I am not having any problems at all writing to the server.. You might try runnning Norton SI and do a benchmark on the network... You might have a bad card.. But writing to the net should not be a problem...I know several people running it under both Lantastic and Novell... As far as aligning your dish again... The best is by actually making measuring the proper distances to make sure you lnb is centered and then take the receiver out to the dish and use the meter to max it out... --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 172 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/13/93 10:34a Subj: Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RA> dedicated computer? Many people will not have a RA> printer available to be plugged into this computer, and RA> it is my understanding that unless a printer is plugged RA> into the system, AND online all hours of operation, RA> that the system will not function. This would seem to RA> be an unnecessary burden to place on the customer in Actually when I first installed it it wouldn't work with the printer connected and on. I then took the printer off and it worked fine. So going by my experience it already does that. I just moved the printer to another computer on the network. Probably better anyway. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 173 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/13/93 10:24p Subj: satellite shot... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd: 1. I am up and working "fivers" for the past two or three days, thanks to Dave Smith and his concern and sense of urgency. 2. Next week the net feed will swing over and we will be full operation. 3. We have not received our rains yet here on Vancouver Island....but I am quite optomistic about the quality of the signal. Time will tell. I am using a 48" ku band dish and I had a pro set it up for me thereby guaranteeing an optimum signal strength. 4. A couple of weeks ago you asked for comments and suggestions about the state/cycle/content of the satellite dump. I chuck my hat in on the side that recommends the second main cycle. The fact that the current upload comes in 2.5 to 3.0 hours.....the other 21 hours of the day are "wasted" imho. Splitting the day into two 12 cycles would be much appreciated by many sysops around this neck of the woods who would then receive fresh mail. 5. Keep up the good work and look forward to this thing evolving. Regards....Murray Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 174 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/13/93 9:40p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KK> from what you say above, can I run Pcutil on another node to KK> move the inbound sat_mail to another machine and immediately KK> bring pccmain backup? Exactomundo......... Just set the bat file on the receiver node to just loop on the exit and then on another node ( I use my main mail node bat file ) and this is the line in the bat file that calls the program to move the fido mail bundles to the holding directory defined in the config file for PCUTIL IF EXIST I:\PLANETC\FIDO\0000FFFF.??? PCUTIL CHECK3 Note: The PCU= enviroment and the path to PCUTIL must be set to call it from another node or you can put the config file and PCUTIL on the node you are calling it from. John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project * 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 175 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 10/13/93 11:01p Subj: DONGLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >I have a 'doggle', no printer attached, works flawlessly... the problem > If I have this right... > So first I have to buy a printer card for the receiver system. Then I > can't connect a printer even if I *want* to. This is getting ugly Nope. You can either a) not connect a printer to it. b) connect one but it has to be on all the time. > real fast. I can't run the receiver on a machine without a parallel > port. I can't run a printer on the parallel port when I install it > unless it's powered up 24 hours a day -- mine is a 300+ watt laser! And Run down to your local Radio Shack or some computer store and hook up one of those mechanical A/B switches. Simply have it switched to an open outlet when you don't want to have your printer on. > to top it off I have to dedicate a machine full-time to the receiver > because it doesn't know about buffered UARTs. That's something I hope they work on soon. Keep in mind that this "dedicated" machine can be a cheap 286 (I'm running an old 386SX) > Will one of the Planet Connect representatives say something > soothing or technical that explains all these troubles away as a simple > misunderstanding? Pretty please. Probably something close to: "When it's ready" > My dish is in. Finally. Isn't sudden growth grand? You learn to deal with it :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 176 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/14/93 1:09p Subj: Access Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I read in your mailing that version 1 would expire after 30 days (meaning 10-31-93) and that we would need to return some sort of subscription form. Did I miss this or is it coming? All seems to be working well here...I also would like to see a 12 hour cycle. But then again I run a dedicated dish, I know everyone doesn't. Randy *ASTRO* BBS Ft. Myers, FL --- via Satellite/GEcho+ * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN REYNOLDS Number: 177 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/14/93 10:14a Subj: Re: dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Olesen scribbled in a note to Boyd Goodin: -> As I stated you do not need a printer hooked up at all. My main -> system just has the dongle in it and it runs with no problems. JO> May not be entirely correct Boyd. I was building a new JO> 386sx40 system to use for the satellite and I had to JO> exchange my AT I/O card for another one because the first JO> one didn't like the dongle. I don't recall the error JO> message, but a printer worked in the port so it wasn't JO> defective. Bzzzttt! Wrong answer :-) (Sort of). What is happening is some manufacturers (Taiwan) only connect enough pins of the 25 to make a printer work. Software like Lap-Link, Irwin Parallel Backups, and those that use dongle's need more of the pins in the spec. When we did a company wide backup using the Irwin's we found close to 2% of our parallel ports had to be changed out :-( Later, John --- timEd/B8 * Origin: J.R.'s PALACE * Cedar Hill, TX * (214) 299-5425 (1:124/1111) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 178 To: JIM WATSON Date: 10/14/93 7:53p Subj: FILE AREA TITLES.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Origin: Dogs crawl under fences... Software crawls under Windows! > (1:170/610) Hey Jim, your origin line is too long. Should be 78 characters including the (1:170/610) Just thought I'd let you know before John Souvestre's GMD :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 179 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 10/13/93 12:58p Subj: TICK LIMITATIONS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >some areas are unknown, yet they are indeed in my tic.cfg. I think I'm >running with v2.10. Is there a later version or another util like tick that That's the latest version. We're using tick 2.10 on 2 of the three N.A. filebone hubs. I'm not aware of a ceiling on number of areas. I believe it 'only' allows 200 connections per area though. The unknown area might be a missing subdir on your hard drive or a slight misspelling somewhere on an AREA line in tic.cfg. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 180 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 10/13/93 9:58p Subj: Dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GP I can't run the receiver on a machine without a parallel port. I can't run a printer on the parallel port when I install it unless it's powered up 24 hours a day -- mine is a 300+ watt laser! I also use a laser printer, but found a way around leaving it powered up 24 hours a day. I have a laser printer hooked up to a device that allows up to 4 computers to print on the laser printer. I found that if I just leave the power on to the parallel printer sharing device I can turn the printer off without the dongle key noticing it. I picked the printer sharing device up at CompuAdd a while ago. It is model number MP-401b. I'm not sure if all printer sharing devices would work like this, but at least mine does. * 1st 1.10 #310s * I do the work of three men... Moe, Larry, & Curly --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 181 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/14/93 9:54a Subj: RE: DONGLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> As I stated you do not need a printer hooked up at all. My main > -> system just has the dongle in it and it runs with no problems. > > May not be entirely correct Boyd. I was building a new 386sx40 > system to use for the satellite and I had to exchange my AT I/O > card for another one because the first one didn't like the dongle. I > don't recall the error message, but a printer worked in the port so > it wasn't defective. The Dongle requires that the printer port be working both directions correctly whereis the printer only receives data from the port... I had 2 ports on 2 different machines that worked perfectly on printers but would not work with the hd copy programs that used the bi-directional printer port... You may have the same problem... --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 182 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 10/14/93 7:20p Subj: SATELLITE SHOT... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > in on the side that recommends the second main cycle. The fact that > the current upload comes in 2.5 to 3.0 hours.....the other 21 hours > of the day are "wasted" imho. Splitting the day into two 12 cycles > would be much appreciated by many sysops around this neck of the > woods who would then receive fresh mail. Murray, I use the pcutil program to move over 3 mail bundles and toss them.. I move 3 every 3 hours.. Thus the net gets mail every 3 hours.. They seem to like it like this... --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF JOHNSON Number: 183 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 10/15/93 11:31a Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just set the bat file on the receiver node to just loop on the exit > and then on another node ( I use my main mail node bat file ) and > this is the line in the bat file that calls the program to move the > fido mail bundles to the holding directory defined in the config > file for PCUTIL > > IF EXIST I:\PLANETC\FIDO\0000FFFF.??? PCUTIL CHECK3 John, I go one step futher, I have 700=off in my .ini file.. so it never exits from the batch file. and have another machine do a next3 every 3 hours.. --- TMail v1.30.5 * Origin: Central Arkansas Earth Station Thornburg, Arkansas (1:3821/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 184 To: JEFF JOHNSON Date: 10/15/93 2:44a Subj: DONGLE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jeff! 11 Oct 93, Jeff Johnson writes to Rick Ashworth: JJ> Rick, I do not have a printer plugged into mine and it works just fine.. Thanks for the correction. I was only half listening when I got the story. You are correct.. Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 185 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 10/15/93 4:18p Subj: MORE WITH PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Wiesner wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: CW> PLANETC DIR 0 10-13-93 8:16p CW> PCU BSY 0 10-13-93 8:09p I know that if you don't delete that pcu.bsy, it will come back and say that it is already running! Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 186 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 10/15/93 6:21p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John, here's your email message. I'm using Pcutil 1.06, works great and thanks for the effort 'donated' to the hobby. You made reference to multi-tasking in your docs. Have you (or anyone else) tried OS/2 for the Planect Connect software? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 187 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/15/93 11:03a Subj: FILE AREA TITLES.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Origin: Dogs crawl under fences... Software crawls under Windows! > (1:170/610) TL> Hey Jim, your origin line is too long. Should be 78 TL> characters including the (1:170/610) Just thought TL> I'd let you know before John Souvestre's GMD :) TL> See ya Todd Actually his GMD said 79, and got here days before you message did -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 188 To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 10:36a Subj: Fast Lynx Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am in need of a program like lapink that will be able to transfer files from a remote DOS machine to my OS2 machine. It needs to be able to run from the command line as cannot multitask the DOS pc. I am currently using Fast Lynx (old version) and it is causing problems with the Dos windows slowing on the Os2 pc. Is anyone using something that they might suggest I try? Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (Live via Satellite & OS2) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 189 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/13/93 12:36p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday October 07 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Boyd! >> well..why not do a mail toss at 5am or whenever..rename all those mail >> bundles to 7am.mo? and start sending at 7am like normal BG> It is workable but how come nobody takes into account that WE have to BG> modem all this stuff up to the uplink. With the current software at the BG> uplink we could not do that as we have to shut the process down, add our BG> files to send, then start the process up. Once we have our uplink software BG> changed to add and transmit files onthe fly then we could do this. because I didnt know that? ..I'm just tossing suggestions in for future development. :) Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 190 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 10/13/93 12:38p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday October 07 1993, Rick Ashworth writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Rick! RA> Maybe. In our net, the availability of the entire fb/bb at a cheap flat RA> rate has raised the amount of mail each node requests. This has filled up RA> the 24 hour period that our net hub can deliver mail. Because of the RA> increased busy signals, 2 other nodes in our net have plans to put in RA> their own. our net has a 45 minute connect rule. you can get as much as you want but only 45 mins worth. Hubs are volunteers and I dont think volunteers should be completely screwed by having to feed the masses non stop. Get more hubs, or whatever, but to give free reign doesnt seem "fair" to the hub. (IMHO) :)) RA> That, along with the extra "receiving node only services" that are RA> becoming available.. RA> I think INITIALLY it will be a net hub solution, but those with larger RA> systems will tend to start picking up their own dish due to the RA> affordability.. that is a fact..and a good one as it will then take the load of of the hobby volunteers. Pretty much only the commertial pay boards want the WHOLE backbone anyways..them or very large nets with so many bbs's that contirubute that bringing the whole thing in is default. Net 153 is like that currently which is why the sat link seems like such a good plan for us. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 191 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/13/93 12:42p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Friday October 08 1993, Patty Pickett writes to Rob Nelson: Hello Patty! PP> I was thinking of running it on a semi-dedicated OS/2 PP> machine with 16550 UARTS, Rob. Semi-dedicated in that it would also be PP> doing periodic backups of the network drives. I've got it running on a dedicated dos machine and currently there is no support for the 16550 uarts I have. I've forced them on and the program doesnt take advantage of it. As Boyd was say8ing, they may either go towards pcccmain supporting the 16550, or go to fossil support. either way..that would allow proper multitasking under the receiving software. I've got lantastic linking the sat machine with my os2 machine. Once 16550 support is in, I'll be able to run the sat machine in server mode. Cheers, Ken --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 192 To: KEN THIERFELDER Date: 10/14/93 2:27a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Crossposted in Z1_ELECTION * Crossposted in PLANET_CONNECT Monday October 11 1993, Ken Thierfelder writes to Ervin Jay: >> You don't think there is a method whereby Planet Connect can deny any >> particular file or mail bunldle to any particular Sat Downlink KT> Actually, I doubt that they would bother with that. They will > [...] KT> Of course this does not negate their abilitiy to censor mail that is KT> coming BACK from the end nodes, but they can't censor it on it's way Which leads to the next logical question.... How will Moderator requested link cuts be handled if the node is being fed via a Planet Connect Site that is a private distribution system which is wholly seperate from the *EC distribution system. What is going to happen when a Moderator requests that the feed to any particular node be cut? What happens if/when Planet Connect requests a Satelite donwlink to cut the feed for a particular Node, and the PC downlink site refuses, what then, has Planet Connect any means of enforcing any link cuts. Cheers, Ervin ... Magpie: A bird whose thievish disposition suggested to someone that it might be taught to talk. --- GoldED/XTD 2.42.A0701+ (767CD1) * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 193 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 10/17/93 11:49a Subj: Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> I would also definitely invest in a 16550. I also load a > ^^^^^ > Really? For the serial port on the PC where the dish data comes > in? I thought the Planet Connect software was 16550 dumb. Boyd? It is, but using the knowledge of the line drivers, the regular 1488's and 1489's are going to be (in most cases) taxed by a 19200 data rate and will choke with CRC errors. The 1488 and 1489 line drivers made for use with the 16550 are much better at the higher data stream rates and will give you less problems. If you disagree tell me why :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 194 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 10/18/93 10:54a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ervin Jay wrote in a message to Ken Thierfelder: EJ> What happens if/when Planet Connect requests a Satelite EJ> donwlink to cut the feed for a particular Node, and the PC EJ> downlink site refuses, what then, has Planet Connect any EJ> means of enforcing any link cuts. They can easily drop your return mail in the bit bucket. Before Planet Connect and (still now) if your link is cut from a conference you can call another bbs that carries it and read the mail. The only way to prevent participation in any conference is to kill return mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2552 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 195 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/18/93 5:49a Subj: .ARC vs .ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Noticed that the RADAR.ARC is a .ZIP file the other two, SAT* WEATH* .ARC files are also .ZIP files... Why don't you send them with the correct EXTension??? I'm just renaming them at the moment... Thanks, Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 196 To: JEFF JOHNSON Date: 10/18/93 3:53p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ> John, I go one step futher, I have 700=off in my .ini file.. JJ> so it never exits from the batch file. and have another JJ> machine do a next3 every 3 hours.. More then one way to skin the cat I guess, With the right tools I have found that a sysop can do anything ( well almost ) Have Fun John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project * 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 197 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 10/18/93 3:54p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> I'm using Pcutil 1.06, works great and thanks Thanks for the message Tracy, Hope to have the next version out soon.... John....... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project * 391 Hub * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 198 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/18/93 8:10p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > way..that would allow proper multitasking under the receiving software. > I've got lantastic linking the sat machine with my os2 machine. Once > 16550 support is in, I'll be able to run the sat machine in server mode. Really? I never could get it to work on my server. Locked tight as a drum as soon as the screen popped up. I havent' tried with the latest version of Planet Connect software. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HARRY MCDOW Number: 199 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/19/93 8:24a Subj: Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Sunday October 17 1993 11:49, Todd Lyons wrote to Clay Tinsley: TL> It is, but using the knowledge of the line drivers, the regular 1488's and TL> 1489's are going to be (in most cases) taxed by a 19200 data rate and will TL> choke with CRC errors. The 1488 and 1489 line drivers made for use with TL> the 16550 are much better at the higher data stream rates and will give TL> you less problems. 1488's and 1489's are just level converters with nano-second slew rates. Data upwards of 115Kbps will be just fine. - Harry --- GoldED 2.41+/1054US1 * Origin: TCR'S Revenge - Seagoville, Texas - (214) 287-5135 (1:124/4218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 200 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/19/93 6:49p Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any chances the echo list will get updated? TVRO and WHITEHOUSE are listed twice and there are several conferences coming in (PROBOARD is one of them) that are not in the list. Also... is there any possibility to add a feature in PTCCMAIN that will shell out on an error level other than 100 at shorter intervals? At the end of the transmission of mail if it would exit and allow the option to run a batch file we could run the show on a ram disk and then dump it to a hard disk before the disk space was used up. At current memory prices it is very expensive to set up a ram disk big enough for the entire 2 hr sessions as currently sent. "Give us the option to clean our ram disk about every 30 minutes ... the little men cried." --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2552 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 201 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/19/93 4:20p Subj: weather maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, To service the Canadian sites, would it be possible to include or add Canada in the Satellite Weather Maps ? Best Regards, Hans --- PcBoard 15.0U * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 L's, 10 G's. Inet:logical.cuc.ab.ca (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEVIN SILCOX Number: 202 To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 5:20p Subj: Link Check Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Since I havn't received any messages in here and I've been connected for a few days I thought I'd see if I could get things activated by sending a message out. Silcox out. --=={ Kevin Silcox ------ --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: StormFront [Orangevale,CA] 916-988-0407 V32b/V42b (1:203/407) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 203 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/19/93 12:34p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 18-Oct-1993 20:10 thus spake Todd Lyons unto Ken Kavanagh: TL> Really? I never could get it to work on my server. Locked tight as a TL> drum as soon as the screen popped up. I havent' tried with the latest TL> version of Planet Connect software. I currently have 2 computers on a lan, with both in server mode, and PC software runs fine on either one.. * Clinton Cruise Lines - "We take America for a Ride!" --- GoldED 2.41/D'Bridge 1.54/FastEcho 1.25/TAG 2.6F1 Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 204 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/19/93 1:14p Subj: .ARC vs .ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave-- DJ> Noticed that the RADAR.ARC is a .ZIP file DJ> the other two, SAT* WEATH* .ARC files are also .ZIP files... DJ> Why don't you send them with the correct EXTension??? DJ> I'm just renaming them at the moment... Boyd already said a few weeks ago that when SkyLink was begun, this is the way the files were created, and they just never got around (or felt the need) to change them. I'ts NOT the extension - I'm sure it stands for "archive", don't you think? We are all used to .zip, .arc, .arj, etc, and when we see an extension like that, that's what we think it's format is. They decompress just fine for me with PKUNZIP *.ARC. Why are you renaming them? I'm curious about that one..... Ken --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 205 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/20/93 2:29a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > of it. As Boyd was say8ing, they may either go towards > pcccmain supporting the 16550, or go to fossil support. > either way..that would allow proper multitasking under the Hope either way will be soon, Ken, as it will bring some much needed relief for some of us. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 206 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 10/20/93 2:31a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > How will Moderator requested link cuts be handled if the > node is being fed via a Planet Connect Site that is a > private distribution system which is wholly seperate from > the *EC distribution system. Either the system feeding the node who's link is requested cut, or PC simply tells Squish not to process messages in that echo area for that PC site's node address, Ervin, or so it was explained to me by Boyd during the convention. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 207 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/20/93 8:06a Subj: .ARC vs .ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Noticed that the RADAR.ARC is a .ZIP file > the other two, SAT* WEATH* .ARC files are also .ZIP files... > Why don't you send them with the correct EXTension??? He mentioned something once about the system he was running on not wanting to overwrite an existing .ZIP file with the new .ZIP file but it worked fine with .ARC. If I'm wrong, I'm sure you'll see Boyd posting the correct info and/or correcting me :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK GAUDE Number: 208 To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 8:01p Subj: Backbone entry Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi, all, and anyone! Question: How does the FidoNet backbone messages get placed on the satellite? Obliged for your reply, Frank --- InterPCB 1.31 * Origin: HighSierra Online - Lake Tahoe, CA (916) 577-4438 (1:203/8888) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SKINNER Number: 209 To: ANYONE Date: 10/18/93 9:15p Subj: info please Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've been reading this echo for three weeks now and I've yet to see any information about how to get linked in to this new way to spend money. Most of my questions could be answered by a FAQ if I knew where to look. Are the folks who claim that this software is not 16550 aware confused? It seems to me that anyone who could put the rest of the code together to make this idea play could install 16550 code in a few minutes. (If they really dont, they should give me a call. I write that type of thing all day long, every day of the week. And I've been doing it for 26 years.) What is all this foolishness about a dongle. I thought the world had left them with 8bit atari's and c64's. How long is it going to take a bright college kid with a logic analyser to figure out how to bypass it? Is there a file somewhere that I could freq that would explain to me the global parameters of how all this is really supposed to work. I get the idea that: 1) it is on more than one band (or satelite) 2) The data is xmitted several times per day 3) The link runs at 9600bps 4) The software is not network aware 5) It currently requires a dedicated machine What happens if I have a lightning storm all night. (I usually unplug all the electronic stuff during one of them.) Am I going to be able to pick up what I missed? Where do inbound messages go. Who gets how much money if I link into this. How often do they get it. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: /\Oregon Desert/\(503)475-3056(v32b)/\ (1:105/711) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 210 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 10/21/93 1:12p Subj: Re: .ARC vs .ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Why don't you send them with the correct EXTension??? We found that if it just happened to be sending lets say RADAR.ZIP at the same time it was getting a new one coming over the network it would lock the transmitting system up solid. The transmitting program renames them with the extension .ARC before transmiting and if a new one comes over the network it would be a different name and no more lock ups. ...boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 211 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/21/93 1:17p Subj: Re: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd: Suggestion. Can you set up the C-band uplink for timed users and > leave > the K-band free-running? I think that most of the user's of K-Band will > have > dedicated systems simply because it is so new. Whereas the C-bander's > probably > already had the dish for watching the football/hockey games 24-hours a > day. Well seeing how we would then have to pump the mail and files to 1) Knoxville and 2) Chicago this would mean more computers at Chicago, a dedicated line to Chicago, thus meaning more cost on our end that we would have to pass onto you. So if you have KU you will be paying more than what the guys on the C-band would be paying a month. We will not be doing this what so ever. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 212 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/21/93 1:20p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any chances the echo list will get updated? TVRO and > WHITEHOUSE are listed twice and there are several conferences > coming in (PROBOARD is one of them) that are not in the list. Use the latest fidonet.na file. > Also... is there any possibility to add a feature in PTCCMAIN > that will shell out on an error level other than 100 at shorter > intervals? At the end of the transmission of mail if it would Not likely at this time. Matter of fact you have 99 errorlevels avaible to you aready. We just dont see the need for any others at the time. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 213 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 10/21/93 1:23p Subj: Re: Things in General... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Howdy -- Finally got everything running 89% smoothly? You'll have it to 100% one of these days. > Did you guys receive the FOSSIL.ZIP .c code I sent ya???? Yes we did and thanks. > I have put together some WIN Code, and Lan/DesqView code for you > guys, and will be sending it to ya in the next couple of days - had a > small problem with my tosser (died Monday)... Thanks, need all the help we can get. > Is my mail getting back up stream to ya'll?? No problems here yet. > Just for your information I am now 1:18/201 ... but the local > net has agreed to keep me listed as 1:362/201 for mail flow. Ok just let me know if you start calling with a different address. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 214 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 10/21/93 1:24p Subj: Re: weather maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd, Hello Hans, > To service the Canadian sites, would it be possible to include or add > Canada in the Satellite Weather Maps ? At the present time they only do continental U.S. We have not found a Canadian systems that does the same thing as they do. Still looking though. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 215 To: KEVIN SILCOX Date: 10/21/93 1:25p Subj: Re: Link Check Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Since I havn't received any messages in here and I've been connected > sending a message out. Silcox out. Working here no problem... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 216 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/21/93 5:29p Subj: Planet_Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd-- Everyone is starting to raise a ruckus in some of the other echos about so many questions about Planet Connect. When is PLANET_CONNECT going to go on the backbone? Seems to me it meets the requirements, since every node connected to PC gets it. And I KNOW there has to be more than 3 regions with nodes using the service! --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM OXFORD Number: 217 To: ALL Date: 10/21/93 10:36p Subj: Here at last! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well I finally made it, thought everything would never come together but it did. I would like to thank Boyd for getting me stright and tuned in properly. This is really a test to see if it toss's out properly. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14 Gig (1:147/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 218 To: KEVIN SILCOX Date: 10/21/93 12:02p Subj: Link Check Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kevin Silcox wrote in a message to All: KS> Since I havn't received any messages in here and I've KS> been connected for a few days I thought I'd see if I could KS> get things activated by sending a message out. Silcox out. You are at least half-activated. Your messages are going out. If you read this one they are also coming in. If you don't read this message there is no use in giving you advice as you wouldn't get it anyhow. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2552 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK HOPKINS Number: 219 To: CLAY TINSLEY Date: 09/18/93 4:52p Subj: hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there! Net124 (Dallas) joins this echo. Net 133 in Atlanta says hello also! --- * Origin: The Atlanta Information System (1:133/613) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK HOPKINS Number: 220 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 09/20/93 7:01p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ok now lets set it to a vote. I know there are a > lot of you out there that still use your dish for > viewing TV so if we go to 2 feeds per 24 hours, at > what time would it be best to refresh the flow. Now > remember that we have to send everything to the uplink > via modem so that takes time. Also if you miss > anything there will be less chance of picking it up > again since the retransmitting time would be cut in > half. What does everyone say? > 7am -7pm sounds fine to me, but what happens when that time frame gets overloaded with these other networks coming online soon? (ROSENET, RIME, CRS, MBBS, USENET) Will there be enough time to receive everything? Just curious as I have a dedicated system, so it doesn't make much difference either way to me. I am receiving everything just fine so far...... --- InterMail 2.23 * Origin: The Atlanta Information System - Node III (1:133/613) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 221 To: NO ONE Date: 10/23/93 6:20p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Why is this thing putting two origin lines on every message ? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 222 To: NO ONE Date: 10/23/93 6:24p Subj: still sending 2 origin lines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No still putting two origin lines on every message? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 223 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/24/93 3:04p Subj: test Refer: 221 Read: NO Private: No -> Why is this thing putting two origin lines on every message ? -> * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) I thought you were just showing off now that you've got that dish set up and all ... tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 224 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/24/93 2:42p Subj: weather maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > HH> To service the Canadian sites, would it be possible to include or add > HH> Canada in the Satellite Weather Maps ? > HEAR HEAR!! I wanna see Vancouvers shitty weather coming!! :)) Yes ......good point Ken....that Vancouver weather oozed over to Vancouver Island yesterday and got all over my 48inch KU dish/system which ran for 15 hours to finally get a complete Saturday dump...! :-) Needless to say, we Islanders are not accustomed to so much rain. Many folks were out building large wooden boats. What a mess...! Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo, BC, CANADA 604-758-8157 (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 225 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 10/25/93 10:18p Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Only frustrating problem yet to be resolved is the dupes issue. Every > few hours it downloads the same files, which my level 100 batch file > keeps processing. I have to figure out how to prevent the duplicate > files from being re-processed every time. (DBRidge prevents dupes, but > its a lot of unnecessary work) Any suggestions appreciated. I know > there has to be a solution... That's what the PCUTIL CHECK4 line was for in the PCSKY.BAT file. PCUTIL kills any dupe files that it receives. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 226 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 10/25/93 10:20p Subj: Finally connected Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I do have a question though... (if this gets through). I recieved > aprox. 100 routed echomail messages in todays batch of mail. It looks as > if they were to be routed to 396/1. I have deleted the "bounced" > messages (bounced by Msgtrack) so my system doesn't send them back. Has > anyone else seen this problem or did I have a quirk? OOOOH yeah. Those files were supposed to go to John's system and not us. Boyd, if those files never made it to John Souvestre's system, I still have the unpacked packets sitting in my inbound (my mail processor unpacked them and renamed them *.SEC) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 227 To: RANDY SHERWYN Date: 10/25/93 10:23p Subj: .ARC vs .ZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Face it, most users are just plain stupid (lot of sysops > > too :) > > Hey Todd, Not All of us Sisops are stoopid... :>) :>) Watch it. I resemble that remark! > PS. Couldn't resist.... still dating your sister? :>) I *HOPE* you realize that was a joke Take it easy.... Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 228 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/25/93 10:31p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > informing us of changes? Just today alone,, about 15 bad tic's. Each > one> has to be renamed, the areas created and the files moved back into > my > > inbound directory. To me, this situation is not a good sign of > > professionalism on your part. I didn't catch who this was FROM, but there is a fix for this. If you run RAID, then you will be able to do: cd\im\raid raid autocreate >>raid.log ;adds new entries into TIC.CFG raid announce >>raid.log ;announces new files received raid -rdk >>raid.log ;actual reply mode (netmail Kill/Direct) cd\tick TICK >>tick.log ;need I explain it? :) The autocreate function in raid is defineable as far as WHICH nodes you will create areas for. Simply define 1:3615/50 as one of the nodes that you will create areas for. > Well I have every filearea active in my config. John is going to > make a list of ones that are not active and I will send it over the > satellite. I am also going to take a look at ALLFIX and see if it has > anything better to offer that TICK does. I *JUST* switched the other day and found that there was MUCH that was different. I found that Tick does not properly handle multizone files and that was the *SOLE* reason that I switched. I dearly loved the Raid/Tick combo and even know that George Peace has just re-started development on the Raid beta versions, but had to switch because of Tic's (or my own) inadequacies. Allfix will also import your TIC.CFG, but you must edit out the spaces in front of the node numbers that Raid puts there to neaten it up. Working good here so far. Also, if you're going to announce file areas, make sure to enable it in ALL file areas ...fought that puppy for three days before I figured it out. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 229 To: PHIL MILLER Date: 10/25/93 10:33p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > PM> I currently have 2 computers on a lan, with both in server mode, and > PM> software runs fine on either one.. > > really? if i put the pc machine in server mode and try to access its > drives from the other server, i get errors in the transmission. Thats Phil, are you running with or without Lancache? Some other cache? No cache? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 230 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 10/16/93 1:15a Subj: dongle Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> As I stated you do not need a printer hooked up at all. My main >-> system just has the dongle in it and it runs with no problems. > May not be entirely correct Boyd. I was building a new 386sx40 system > to use for the satellite and I had to exchange my AT I/O card for > another one because the first one didn't like the dongle. I don't > recall the error message, but a printer worked in the port so it wasn't > defective. > Jeff O. > Viking's Cove. Mine seems flaky too. Seems 1 out of 5 times it works? I have no printer connected and it tells me to turn on my printer? Dumb. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 231 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 10/18/93 8:26p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > John, here's your email message. > I'm using Pcutil 1.06, works great and thanks for the effort > 'donated' to the hobby. > You made reference to multi-tasking in your docs. Have you (or > anyone else) tried OS/2 for the Planect Connect software? Yes, And I couldn't get it to work. But Am am going to try again in the next few days. I also cannot get the INFO CYPHER to work either under OS/2. Possible with the os2 2.1 vrs 2.1 beta it will work. I have gotten it to work KINDA with Desqview. I still get errors once in a while. If you have no activity in the other windows under Desqview it does seem to work. Simply doing a DIR make an error in Desqview. This MIGHT be because of the SCSI hardware? I have a 16bit SCSI card with a 386 40mhz with meg 4 and a 2 meg drive cache. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 232 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 10/19/93 8:40p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is going to happen when a Moderator requests that the feed to any > particular node be cut? > What happens if/when Planet Connect requests a Satelite donwlink to cut > the feed for a particular Node, and the PC downlink site refuses, what > then, has Planet Connect any means of enforcing any link cuts. > Cheers, Ervin This is easy... I'v already had a chat about this. Boyd will refuse all return messages from the site causing the trouble! The feed will still be there but the ablility to return ANY MAIL is lost. So I don't think there will be a problem! If so the site will lose! Also The Moderator will probably have to be A Little more patient then they have been in the past. Also Planet Systems will have to be a little bit reasonable also. Sometimes Moderators are a problem! and protest for their actions need to be settled possible by higher up in FIDO. Might be something new here. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 233 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/23/93 11:34a Subj: Printer Port. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My systm is screwing up with this printer port thing. I have it on with no printer and it keeps telling me to turn on my printer? The errors continue until I press a key on the keyboard???????? I can press the Control Key and it will start working. Sounds stupid, but that what is happening. Got any ideas? If I can't get this to work consistant, I may need a replacement printer thingy. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 234 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/26/93 10:34p Subj: FAQ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd-- Caught this message in the TVRO echo. Any chance of you guys doing this? Sure would help a lot of folks!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday October 22 1993 10:46, John Hrusovszky wrote to Tim Hutzler: JH> Sure have, I think. I've been following this area pretty close, and I JH> am sure they have all already been mentioned. You might want to look JH> back through the past messages to find them, Tim. JH> Of course, maybe PC could come through with a FAQ sheet to post here. I agree. Some sort of Frequently Asked Questions list needs to be made concerning Planet Connect. The network is devoting a lot of bandwidth to answering basicly the same questions over and over. --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: (KA5CFW) (FidoNet 1:124/4115.225) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 235 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/26/93 6:03p Subj: large mail bundles... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd: I would like to thank you for recent interventions in the out going stuff, by reducing the size of a couple of the mail bundles. Last Saturday the rains really came down and if you had not split that 2.3 meg mail bundle, my 48" KU system would never have copied that mail. As a matter of interest, does your system retoss the mail or do a straight transfer from the Star...? Regards......Murray --- SuperBBS and PTQWK....! * Origin: (null) (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 236 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/25/93 4:59a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > All you need to do now is get a comm card with a > 16550 uart buffer. I got one the other day and then I set Got one, Terry, but thought that the PC software wasn't 16550 aware. I'm so confused! > push it to the limits so I started going to the windows > that was doing the dir's and started them unzipping all the > docs from all the files to the screen: pkunzip * *.doc /c > ....and after 2 windows were doing this and the other 3 were > reading the 650 meg directories I finally bogged it down > enough to start getting errors. Ahhh, sounds wonderful to me, Terry, and thanks much for the information. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 237 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/25/93 5:00a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Humm... but they aren't using Squish... Boyd told me when > I was confused about configuring for the AKA. Perhaps not, but undoubtedly whatever tosser/scanner they're using has the capability to do what Boyd was telling me. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 238 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/25/93 5:07a Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Many people in (various conferences) who are connected > with PC are trying to figure out how to reply to the .QWK > packets. Do you know if there is any utilities that can > convert them into <=> from fidonet format so they can > be tossed? Where can we call to reply to the messages > in these packets? I believe the QWK type networks require the use of PCRelay or PostLink as well as a network address for their network (non-zone based addressing). There are utilities to allow for these types of things however, for instance: CNTMX100.ZIP - QWK/REP importer/exporter for Maximus. FIDOQ111.ZIP - Convert *.MSG to *.QWK for use in PCRelay nethub type mail transfers. MMIMP1.ZIP - Conver QWK to REP for maildoors. If you or anyone else is interested, the files mentioned above are available for Freq via 1:380/5 (H16,V32B,V42B) at any time except NMH. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 239 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 10/26/93 7:32p Subj: Planet connect and dbridg Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I noticed our messages came back through the bird from yesterday... Is > that normal? Well if you want the rest of us to get it, then yes it is normal > Was able to use the crc program to move only the newest files. We > import it all to a local C: drive, then it gets moved with each > errorlevel 100 exit to the Novell lan drive. must be nice to be able to afford Novell. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 240 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/27/93 4:51p Subj: moderating Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Hey Boyd, It was good talking to you today and I look forward to moderating this echo. I'll update the ELIST tonight & get that squared away. I'll also look into getting this echo placed on the backbone... As far as "rules" go, I'll post um in a few days. tim PLANET_CONNECT moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 241 To: JEFF WALLACH Date: 10/25/93 9:57p Subj: Planet connect and dbridg Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Any nodes out there currently running Dbridge mailer and PCBoard... would be -> very interested in discussing your specific configurations for Planet -> Connect environment. That's the exact configured we just put up over the weekend here. What we need is a tosser compatible with 15.0! IP isn't cutting it... Seems to be working alright, but I had to take the /51 out as an alias. I hope this won't cause a problem? Only the replies are being exported, so it looks hopeful I noticed our messages came back through the bird from yesterday... Is that normal? Was able to use the crc program to move only the newest files. We import it all to a local C: drive, then it gets moved with each errorlevel 100 exit to the Novell lan drive. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 242 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 10/25/93 9:36a Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >of changes? Just today alone,, about 15 bad tic's. Each one has to be >renamed, the areas created and the files moved back into my inbound >directory. To me, this situation is not a good sign of professionalism on >your part. New areas are created automagically on most filebone systems. Raid started the trend with the AutoCreate command line and NewAreaCreate config file stuff. It's all painless and done while you sleep. Lacking raid's autocreate, there's a file called FILEBONE.NA passed through the BACKBONE file area. It lets you know what new file areas are coming through the pipe. It might take a little manual intervention if you're not running raid or equivalent but it's sure to take some of the edge off. FIDOSTAT.NA is the echomail backbone's notification file. Both files should be checked regularly for the latest developments. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 243 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/26/93 9:00p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks for the tips. I was able to get the supplied crc program to work, which does a terrific job. As of right now, we have 100% of the signal approved and operational! mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 244 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/27/93 3:55p Subj: Planet connect and dbridg Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> must be nice to be able to afford Novell. It took 10 years of saving up! We used to use Lantastic for a few years, and Network OS before that. This satellite delivery system sure is FAST! I'm getting responses only a day later.... Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 245 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/27/93 3:54p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I believe the QWK type networks require the use of PCRelay or -> PostLink as well as a network address for their network (non-zone based -> addressing). There are utilities to allow for these types of things -> however, for instance: No No No QWK is the Quickmail standard developed for PCBoard by Mark "Sparky" Herring many years ago using QuickBasic file structures. It's a very basic and inneficient networking method using packets designed for "offline readers". It has since been adapted to most platforms, for offline reader support. The QWK standards are supposed to be updated on 11/1 to include several of the advantages found in Postlink and Fidonet. PCBoard networking programs such as QNet(the original), RNet, Rosemail, CAMMail, CNet, and TNet are among those that support this standard. ROSEMAIL software is a slight improvement to QWK, and also downward compat. This is an excellent product from Canada, which gives PCBoard sysops a package which handles EVERYTHING with one configuration program. (offline reader support AND qwk networking) Postlink (formerly called PCRelay) is a much more advanced networking technology developed by Kip Compton. PL does things like encrypted mail, routed mail, return receipts, file sends/requests, network broadcasts, dynamic hub not requiring a front end, pre-extraction, bi-directional xfers, satellite(one way) compatability, carbon copy sends, and Internet/Usenet ready for future use. Like Fido, it can support a variety of protocols and compression methods. Conference configuration is automatic, and upstream selections are turned on an off by the software as needed. The software supports something innovative called a UTI (universal text interface). A UTI allows *ANY* IBM BBS software to use the product, providing they have a small program to do the actual conversions between their software and text format. Because UTI's have memory overhead of their own, some folks have memory troubles with Postlink and their UTI combined. The author is at MIT right now, and support could be better. The technology is protected by copyright, so this software is required. Fido/echomail is an old and somewhat sloppy method, but it gets the job done. Mail takes much longer with Fido than any of the above, and requires a "front end" - but the advantage is compatability with more platforms and computer types. Unlike Postlink, the Fidonet standards are not kept a copywritten secret. Security is also somewhat of a problem with Fido, unless things are configured properly. Some programs include Binkley, Dbridge, Front Door, Intermail, Opus, etc. It's somewhat complicated to set up, and in most cases it request a kludge (a "tosser"). UUCP (UUCICO.EXE in our case) is a protocol primarily used for the Usenet community. We use this for Usenet and Internet Mail w/Holonet. Sloppy, inefficient and unreliable. Low CPS rates. Definately needs to be improved! These are my opinions and observations of the above. These are ONLY my opinions, and I don't mean to endorse a specific product. Have been using all for several years. We're hubbing about 15 networks (hosting New England Net) and use all five of these technologies. Postlink is my favorite for ease of use and least maintenance, with Fido and QWK tied for second. (QWK because theres no work, systems call in as offline mail users - Fido because of the immediate "NETMAIL" feature between operators). Mike Labbe ENC --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 246 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 10/27/93 9:51a Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Jacobs wrote in a message to Tracy Mickley: TJ> I have gotten it to work KINDA with Desqview. I still get TJ> errors once in a while. If you have no activity in the TJ> other windows under Desqview it does seem to work. Simply TJ> doing a DIR make an error in Desqview. This MIGHT be TJ> because of the SCSI hardware? I have a 16bit SCSI card with TJ> a 386 40mhz with meg 4 and a 2 meg drive cache. I have had great success running PC under DV. You may want to set your tics to 1 and 1 and make a large enough ram disk to put command.com on it. If you boot from a floppy and the go about your business you will be surprised at how often your system will stop to read command.com from your floppy. Since your floppy disk is much slower than your hd it will be most noticeable. Even though it is fast when reading your hd it will be many times faster if it is on your ram disk. I have not tested it... but pc may be reading command.com after every file is transferred. It has to save the incoming data that is collected in !!!ST!!!.!!! to the correct file name and delete the !!!ST!!!.!!! file. Put your ram disk first in your path statement and set your comspec since you can't boot from your ram disk. path = f:\;bla bla bla copy command.com f:\ set comspec=f:\command.com --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 247 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/27/93 10:03a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > All you need to do now is get a comm card with a > 16550 uart buffer. I got one the other day and then I set PP> Got one, Terry, but thought that the PC software wasn't PP> 16550 aware. I'm so confused! I think the 16550 uart chip is just a buffer. If you set up a buffer for a printer your system can use it to store data and then feed it your printer as your printer can take it. This will free up your system. The 16550 works much the same way. The satellite demodulator sends the data to the 16550 buffer and your system works like a printer and takes it when it is ready. This means that if your system is busy with something else the incoming data won't get backed up and lost when there is no place for it to go. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 248 To: JOE OVERHOLT Date: 10/27/93 12:39p Subj: press enter to continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Joe: You have a great product, and I knwo you need to make sure that you receive payment for your service. But....... It is NOT a good idea to cripple your system with a "press enter to continue" prompt just to make sure that people call you to ensure that they will enter the right codes in your software. I place your PTCCMAIIN file in a batch file that runs when I am not around to watch it. Realize my dismay when I found out that my computer was just sitting there waiting for me to press the *DAMN* enter key, just so you would make sure that I would call. My whole net missed mail because of this ridiculous ploy for my money. There are other less obstructive ways to ensure compliance such as placing a sentence on your opening PLANET CONNECT screen that would be impossible to miss. People DON'T LIKE to miss their mail. That's the whole reason why we have come to use your service. Yor service IS the way of the future, and i envision most if not all of the major HUBS going to PLANET CONNECT or services like them. Notice that I said SERVICES LIKE THEM. People like courteous vendors of service, and they WILL go to your competitors if they know they will be treated more like responsibe adults. They don't like to be served crippled software. I have every intention of paying for your service, Joe. There is no need to make me attend to my computer every day for 10 days until you poeple get around to answering the phone long enough for you to tell me how to uncripple the software. I would hope that future versions will incorporate a less intrusive prompt for payment. Rudolf Rothemund 1:2440/0 NC/NEC MID-OHIO NET --- WM v3.01/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 249 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 10/27/93 9:08p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> What is going to happen when a Moderator requests that the feed to any >> particular node be cut? > This is easy... I'v already had a chat about this. Boyd will > refuse all return messages from the site causing the trouble! It seems irregular that Planet Systems would have to get into any moderating process. In my opinion, Planet Connect is a carrier of data. If a Moderator wants someone cut from a feed then that moderator should contact the downlink's NC for rectification of the problem. The downlink gets his node number from the NC of his net and the Moderator (if he has a problem with a downlink) should be talking to the Fidonet authorities and not a Carrier Company. The analogy here is, of course, if a moderator has a problem with someone using landline does he call The Telephone Company to cut off the feed...? Nope...! > actions need to be settled possible by higher up in FIDO. Might > be something new here. Maybe I am missing something here but I would like to think that Boyd and Company would refuse to get into ANY fidonet policy discussion and adopt a purely business attitude without getting hung up with the BS. Regards....Murray --- SuperBBS and PTQWK....! * Origin: Family Research BBS, Nanaimo BC, Canada 604-756-1521 (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 250 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/27/93 10:35p Subj: I spoke too soon.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd: I spoke too soon yesterday I guess...! :-) In today's dump there were two huge fidomail bundles. One was 1.6 and the other was 1.7 megs in size. They were the only files I could not download due to them have ing one or two errors as they were being downloaded. The weather was overcast and foggy today and there is no doubt that was the reason for the errors. What is the answer to this problem.....because there is no doubt there will always be some pretty large files and there will always be lots of overcast and rain. I am using a 48" ku system which was professionally installed and on clear or reasonably clear days, I have no errors at all. I have a clear shot at the bird with no trees, buildings or wires around. Looking forward to your response. Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 251 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/27/93 11:28p Subj: Finally connected Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! 25 Oct 93, Terry Blount writes to Dennis Powers: TB> Dennis Powers wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DP>> I do have a question though... (if this gets through). I DP>> recieved aprox. 100 routed echomail messages in todays batch DP>> of mail. It looks as if they were to be routed to 396/1. I DP>> problem or did I have a quirk? TB> Yes. It happened here too. Probably everyone got them. Thanks. It was Day 2 of the new setup and I wanded to be sure that I didn't have a flaky toss . although I move a fair amount of echo traffic for a BBS this was the first time I had this much mail in a single session. It would probably be a good idea if 3615/50 ran MSGTRACK to prevent routed echo mail from being sent out via satellite. Talk about big time dupes and phone bills [smile]. -><-Dennis Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 252 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/27/93 10:37p Subj: Re: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > send it over the satellite. I am also going to take a look > at ALLFIX and see if it has anything better to offer that > TICK does. I think you'll find it to your liking, Boyd, as it makes it much easier to make global changes, auto-add areas coming in to your system, etc. I've used it here for around 6 months or so and liked it so much that I registered it within a month or so. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 253 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 10/28/93 1:06a Subj: Printer Port. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > My systm is screwing up with this printer port thing. I have it on with > no printer and it keeps telling me to turn on my printer? The errors > continue until I press a key on the keyboard???????? I can press the > Control Key and it will start working. Sounds stupid, but that what is > happening. Got any ideas? If I can't get this to work consistant, I > may need a replacement printer thingy. Get a copy of a program (or something similar to it) called STACKEY. This is You can make it jam a [CR] into the keyboard buffer after some predetermined amount of time and it will get past the error message. I can shoot it to you if you want (it's not available for download because I don't have the original archive) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 254 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 10/28/93 7:49p Subj: press enter to continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudolf Rothemund wrote in a message to Joe Overholt: RR> Realize my dismay when I found out that my computer was just RR> sitting there waiting for me to press the *DAMN* enter key, RR> just so you would make sure that I would call. My whole net RR> missed mail because of this ridiculous ploy for my money. Actually they missed mail because you did not read the message that was sent to you about 2 weeks ago: October 15, 1993 Dear Planet Connect Subscriber; ... This mail out requires five items of information to start your subscription to the Planet Connect satellite data service. 1. Your signature on the Planet Connect agreement form. 2. Determine whether you will refeed to other BBSes. 3. Select the term of the contract. ( 1 month, 3 month, or 1 year) 4. Indicate your method of payment. 5. Indicate your start date for the service. After you've mailed in your signed agreement, wait a fews days for it to be processed by us before calling to receive your new authorization code. We will give you a special number that you type into the computer which runs the Plant Connect software. This number sets the time period your software will operate by recording it in the parallel port plug that we sent you a few weeks ago. When you call, make sure you are at a computer that has the plug installed. If you fax your form in to speed up the process, please mail in your form as well to give us an original. ============ --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 255 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 10/28/93 7:56p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murray Pletsch wrote in a message to Tim Jacobs: >> What is going to happen when a Moderator requests that the feed to any >> particular node be cut? > This is easy... I'v already had a chat about this. Boyd will > refuse all return messages from the site causing the trouble! MP> It seems irregular that Planet Systems would have to get MP> into any moderating process. In my opinion, Planet Connect MP> is a carrier of data. They are also your hub. If your feed is going to be cut then 3615/50 is the one who will have to cut it. MP> If a Moderator wants someone cut from MP> a feed then that moderator should contact the downlink's NC MP> for rectification of the problem. The downlink gets his MP> node number from the NC of his net and the Moderator (if he MP> has a problem with a downlink) should be talking to the MP> Fidonet authorities and not a Carrier Company. The analogy MP> here is, of course, if a moderator has a problem with MP> someone using landline does he call The Telephone Company to MP> cut off the feed...? MP> Maybe I am missing something here but I would like to think MP> that Boyd and Company would refuse to get into ANY fidonet MP> policy discussion and adopt a purely business attitude MP> without getting hung up with the BS. As long as they are the feed they will have the same responsibility as any other hub. The people in Chicago that Planet Connect transfers the data to for the satellite uplink are actually the ones in the position of the phone company. I know they aren't going to cut a feed because it is already falling on the roof of every house in the northern hemisphere. They could care less who picks it up and what they do with it. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 256 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/28/93 8:05p Subj: Printer Port. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Tim Jacobs: TL> Get a copy of a program (or something similar to it) called TL> STACKEY. This is You can make it jam a [CR] into the TL> keyboard buffer after some predetermined amount of time and TL> it will get past the error message. I'm willing to bet that it won't. When Ptccmain runs it will not allow those keyboard stuffer programs to work. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 257 To: JIM WATSON Date: 10/26/93 7:16p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >CW> Boyd, I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm having a hell of a time >CW> keeping up with all the new areas that come through. > > You need to run something like Raid which will autocreate the areas > for you. Has nothing to do with "professionalism" on their part as That's what we do here and it works great. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 258 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/26/93 7:20p Subj: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > really? if i put the pc machine in server mode and try to access its > drives from the other server, i get errors in the transmission. > Thats where i figered proper 16550 support would clean things > up..are you not experiencing this? That's my experience here, too, Ken. One (admittedly poor) workaround is to wait until the status line shows a file coming in that you don't care about, then shell to DOS, run 16550.EXE to enable the FIFO buffer, then EXIT back to tback to PC software. Make SURE that you turn off the FIFO buffer before restarting PTCCMAIN.EXE! Meanwhile, while it's still in that cycle, you have the benefit of the 16550. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 259 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 10/26/93 7:23p Subj: RE: ECHO LIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Only frustrating problem yet to be resolved is the dupes issue. > Every few hours it downloads the same files, which my level 100 > batch file keeps processing. I have to figure out how to prevent the You didn't get the PCUtil program that tracks duplicate files for you? That was included in my PC package..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 260 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/26/93 8:12p Subj: WEATHER STUFF Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, It is my understanding that the weather stuff is for MY use only, that I cannot pass it to my downlinks nor post it on my board. THW my downlinks, but I'd sure like to make it available for download by my callers. :-) Didn't you guys mention at the 'Con that the weather stuff could be licensed for posting on the BBS? Is that the case? If so, how much $$$? (I AM willing to pay a nominal fee if I have to) Thanks!! <> --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 261 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/26/93 8:21p Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, We've discussed this on the phone, but I'd like to make it official: The PC software is coming along, but needs some new features: 1. Support for the 16550. Absent that, at least have it not barf if the FIFO buffer is already enabled when it loads, as I can start it up with 16550.EXE myself. 2. Enable the "Status Line" at the bottom of the screen as the default instead of just displaying your Planet Systems logo. Said logo tells me NOTHING about what's going on. Might even be nice to display a whole screen of "recent history" instead of just the LAST file received. 3. When the dongle is close to expiration, display it all over the screen, beep the speaker, or whatever, but don't keep it from running! That irritates the hell outa me to see that message "press Enter to continue" and have it just SIT there. The PC Utility works great, thank you. The service itself is wonderful; my phone company will be calling to find out if I still love them. <> Is there a reason that all the filebone echos aren't distributed by you? I know of one "owner/moderator/whatever" who said that "his" stuff wasn't available via your service, but he's not yet indicated a reason. Would it do any good to lobby those folks from this end? Keep up the good work!!! <> --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 262 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/27/93 2:05p Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Mike Labbe: TL> That's what the PCUTIL CHECK4 line was for in the PCSKY.BAT TL> file. TL> PCUTIL kills any dupe files that it receives. On my system when PCUTIL CHECK4 runs it correctly deletes repeat files, copies the remaining files to the holding directory, and then adds the file names that were moved to the CHECK.IDX file. What it does not do is remove filenames from the check.idx file according to the number of days gone by. It also does not exit correctly. I get a file not found error and a message from the runtime package and my system hangs waiting for a keypress without reentering the PCSKY batch file. Anyone have this problem? I'm a bit frustrated and guess I'm going to have to write a utility to take care of the operation as there is a problem with PCUTIL here. Perhaps it is a hard-coded filename somewhere near the end of the processing? Author? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 263 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/28/93 8:41a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Humm... but they aren't using Squish... Boyd told me when > > I was confused about configuring for the AKA. > > Perhaps not, but undoubtedly whatever tosser/scanner they're > using has the capability to do what Boyd was telling me. You're talking about the mail processor that Boyd is using? Mine reports mail bundles from Qmail. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 264 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/28/93 8:43a Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I believe the QWK type networks require the use of PCRelay or > PostLink as well as a network address for their network (non-zone > based addressing). There are utilities to allow for these types of > things however, for instance: > CNTMX100.ZIP - QWK/REP importer/exporter for Maximus. > FIDOQ111.ZIP - Convert *.MSG to *.QWK for use in PCRelay nethub > type mail transfers. > MMIMP1.ZIP - Conver QWK to REP for maildoors. > If you or anyone else is interested, the files mentioned > above are available for Freq via 1:380/5 (H16,V32B,V42B) at any time > except NMH. Patty, check your inbound. I attached a file to you that does *.msg, squish, ezycom, Hudson, and Jam message bases for any QWK network. Tell me if it's similar to, better, or worse than the ones you've listed above. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 265 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/27/93 4:51p Subj: moderating Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Boyd, It was good talking to you today and I look forward to moderating this echo. I'll update the ELIST tonight & get that squared away. I'll also look into getting this echo placed on the backbone... As far as "rules" go, I'll post um in a few days. tim PLANET_CONNECT moderator --- WM v3.00/92-0015 * Origin: The Liability BBS (1:133/515.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 266 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/27/93 11:50p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Terry Blount, Patty Pickett said: PP> Got one, Terry, but thought that the PC software wasn't PP>16550 PP>aware. I'm so confused! Patty, we've been having good luck running the PC software under DV on a 386-40 with 16550's on the com ports. What we do is load X00 before running DV (this lets X00 capture IRQ14 and turn the 16550's buffer on), the Planet Connect software seems to be dumb enough that it doesn't know X00 is handling IRQ14. I may be completely wrong as to why it works, but it does work! And incoming/outgoing calls thru the modem, nor tossing mail arriving thru the modem cause errors on PC. Mickey PS...Foxy says HI! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 267 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 10/28/93 9:42p Subj: press enter to continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You have a great product, and I knwo you need to make sure that you > receive payment for your service. But....... You answered your own question. If you were trying to make money from a service wouldn't that seem a little ludicrous to allow free access to it? > It is NOT a good idea to cripple your system with a "press enter > to continue" prompt just to make sure that people call you to ensure > that they will enter the right codes in your software. I place your I guess you realize that this is VERY VERY easy to overcome. > sitting there waiting for me to press the *DAMN* enter key, just so you > would make sure that I would call. My whole net missed mail because of > this ridiculous ploy for my money. You let it sit there for more than 24 hours? That's how long you'd have to let it sit to "miss mail" See ya todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 268 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 10/28/93 9:45p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It seems irregular that Planet Systems would have to get into any > moderating process. In my opinion, Planet Connect is a carrier of data. > If a Moderator wants someone cut from a feed then that moderator should > contact the downlink's NC for rectification of the problem. The And if the NC doesn't respond or is not effective... > downlink gets his node number from the NC of his net and the Moderator > (if he has a problem with a downlink) should be talking to the Fidonet > authorities and not a Carrier Company. The analogy here is, of course, > if a moderator has a problem with someone using landline does he call > The Telephone Company to cut off the feed...? The Planet Connect can be considered a HUB. You do things in the chain of command. If you get no response from the NC, you go to his feed and get the link cut. No analogy as a Carrier can replace that IMHO. See ya todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALT LANE Number: 269 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/28/93 10:36p Subj: QWK<-->PKT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry, I noticed you were inquiring about a QWK to PKT conversion utility. I am running RA Pro 2.01 beta and am working with Andrew Milner on the new JAM message base. Using Fastecho, I can have it automatically update my RACONFIG as it tosses the mail into the system. However Fastecho requires PKT message formats only. I have been looking for the same type of utility. Here is what I have found: A utility called P-VERT (believe it or not on the name) comes with the source code in C lang. It seemed to work up to the very last message base but them locked up. I'm checking out the source code now. Please let me know if you have discovered anything which is helpful or may do the job better. Thanks! Walt Lane --- FastEcho 1.30/g * Origin: The File Shop BBS - 40 Gig Online (816) 587-3311 (1:280/316) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 270 To: ALL Date: 10/30/93 8:05a Subj: Planet Connect Q&A Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey Folks, Mark Hopkins & I are currently working a huge Q&A file which will answer most of the questions we've heard relating to Planet Connect... Once the file is completed, I'll post a notice here and make it freqable and/or send it up with the regular mail. The purpose of this file will be to educate the masses about this Planet Connect thing. PLANET_CONNECT will be included in the November ELIST, so that's now squared away.... I'm still working on getting it backboned. This may be difficult as Planet Connect is seen as a threat by some moderators, stars, and *ECs - but I'll try. There are several echos which are being flooded with discussion about Planet Connect (MODERATOR, TVRO, FN_SYSOP, et. al.)... I'll be posting messages in these echos and, hopefully, diverting that mail over here. As far as conference "rules" go, let me say this right off the bat: I don't like rules or arbitrarily imposed control of *any kind*. If any of yall read the CDROM_SALE echo, you know my philosophy and know that it works - at least most of the time ;). I'll also assume that since the participants of this echo are fluent in normal FidoNet policy/procedures, that there will be little need for the normal heavy handedness that some moderators impose on an echo. ANYHOW, here's the rules: 1. All conversations must relate to Planet Connect and must benefit everyone. 2. All "normal" FidoNet etiquette applies. A. No flaming. B. No "one on one" messages. C. No cussing. D. No "excessively annoying" messages. E. Etc. That's about it.... If anyone ever needs to contact me I can be reached at the numbers below. tim PLANET_CONNECT moderator Voice: (404) 621-9210 FAX : (404) 621-9122 FIDO : 1:133/515 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 271 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/28/93 1:55a Subj: Planet connect and dbridg Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > must be nice to be able to afford Novell. It is. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 272 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 10/29/93 4:35p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> @MSGID: 1:170/610.0 2cca4dae >>CW> Boyd, I don't know if I'm the only one, but I'm having a hell of a time >>CW> keeping up with all the new areas that come through. >> >> You need to run something like Raid which will autocreate the areas >> for you. Has nothing to do with "professionalism" on their part as > That's what we do here and it works great. Now if we could just get RAID to autoFORWARD requests for new areas... --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY CASSETTY Number: 273 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 10/28/93 8:21a Subj: Link Check Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I want it......this is a test message > On Tuesday October 19 1993, Kevin Silcox writes > to All: > Hello Kevin! > KS> Since I havn't received any messages in here and I've been > connected > KS> for a few days I thought I'd see if I could get things activated by > KS> sending a message out. Silcox out. > Gotcha loud and clear! > Cheers, Ken > ...And today will go down in history as Thursday > October 21 1993 > --- GoldED 2.41 > * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - > 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Dandy Line BBS "Have Shack Will YaK" Music City U S A (1:116/4000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 274 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 10/29/93 7:28p Subj: pcutil Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> Perhaps it is a hard-coded filename somewhere near the end DW> of the processing? Author? PCutil 1.06 uses a cheap trick at the end of the process, it calls DOS's SORT in a shell to do a quick and dirty sort of the index file, as a matter of fact it uses 11 dos calls in the program to do a lot of work (keep in mind this was writen in 2 days to get around the problem of dups in the beta tests) so make sure you have the dos directory in the path on the computer you run PCU on and make sure you have SORT available to PCU. I am in the process of rewriting PCU as we speak and it should be available soon..... John..... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 275 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/30/93 2:23a Subj: press enter to continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Rudolf Rothemund wrote in a message to Joe Overholt: -> -> RR> Realize my dismay when I found out that my computer was just -> RR> sitting there waiting for me to press the *DAMN* enter key, -> RR> just so you would make sure that I would call. My whole net -> RR> missed mail because of this ridiculous ploy for my money. -> -> Actually they missed mail because you did not read the message that w -> you about 2 weeks ago: -> -> October 15, 1993 -> -> Dear Planet Connect Subscriber; -> ... -> This mail out requires five items of information to start -> your subscription to the Planet Connect satellite data -> service. -> -> 1. Your signature on the Planet Connect agreement form. -> 2. Determine whether you will refeed to other BBSes. -> 3. Select the term of the contract. ( 1 month, 3 -> month, or 1 year) -> 4. Indicate your method of payment. -> 5. Indicate your start date for the service. -> -> After you've mailed in your signed agreement, wait a fews -> days for it to be processed by us before calling to receive -> your new authorization code. We will give you a special -> number that you type into the computer which runs the Plant -> Connect software. This number sets the time period your -> software will operate by recording it in the parallel port -> plug that we sent you a few weeks ago. When you call, make -> sure you are at a computer that has the plug installed. If -> you fax your form in to speed up the process, please mail -> in your form as well to give us an original. -> -> ============ -> -> --- timEd-A10c -> * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) So........ WHERE does this say that the software is crippled??????? I was under the impression that we had until the end of the month to pay up. I sent my bucks in about 6 days before the end ofthe month and the software started crapping out before then. I can understand having the software crippled so that it doesn't work AFTER the first month and AFTER the period of time that I am paid up for. But having to push the ENTER button to get mail BEFORE that time is up just isn't right. Sure,it'll get me to call in, all rigght. But I won't be in a good mood, in fact I'll be pissed. And yes, Terry, I DO read the Planet Connect mail. I sent the bucks in, and the software crippled my operation while the provervial check was in the mail. And I DON;T have access to a fax, so I couldn't "speed up the process". Rudy --- WM v3.01/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 276 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 10/29/93 7:04p Subj: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's my experience here, too, Ken. One (admittedly poor) workaround is > to wait until the status line shows a file coming in that you don't care > about, then shell to DOS, run 16550.EXE to enable the FIFO buffer, then > EXIT back to tback to PC software. Make SURE that you turn off the FIFO > buffer before restarting PTCCMAIN.EXE! Meanwhile, while it's still in > that cycle, you have the benefit of the 16550. Do you (or any crack programmers in here) think that calling bnu in this manner would help: BNU /l1=19200 BNU /i1=+ The /i does this: /I=n+|- ù Initialise(+)/deinitialise(-) FOSSIL on port That would put BNU in "hot" mode. Do you think some of the benefits could be reaped from this configuration? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 277 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 10/29/93 7:09p Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 2. Enable the "Status Line" at the bottom of the screen as the default > instead of just displaying your Planet Systems logo. Said logo tells me > NOTHING about what's going on. Might even be nice to display a whole > screen of "recent history" instead of just the LAST file received. Get a program that will stuff the keyboard buffer with two carriage returns and it will work. I use this: STACKEY w200 CR CR and it hits enter twice after about 3-4 seconds putting the status line down there for me. > Is there a reason that all the filebone echos aren't distributed by you? > I know of one "owner/moderator/whatever" who said that "his" stuff > wasn't available via your service, but he's not yet indicated a reason. > Would it do any good to lobby those folks from this end? Aww the PDN people are being real *^#%$^% about the satellite distribution system. They can't see that this is opening doors for people that didn't feel like forking out $200 or more a month to pull in gobs of file echos and message echos. I don't know WHAT aspect of this they are looking at. Take care... Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 278 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 10/29/93 7:13p Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > On my system when PCUTIL CHECK4 runs it correctly deletes repeat files, > copies the remaining files to the holding directory, and then adds the > file names that were moved to the CHECK.IDX file. What it does not do is > remove filenames from the check.idx file according to the number of days > gone by. It also does not exit correctly. I get a file not found error > and a message from the runtime package and my system hangs waiting for a Check your A_PCU.CFG file. This is what mine looks like and these are the only uncommented lines that I have: SATELLITE_IN=c:\bridge\files ; HOLD_DIR=c:\im\files\ TOSS_DIR=c:\im\files LOG_DIR=c:\planetc\ INDEX_DIR=c:\PLANETC\ UPLD_FILE=C:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO\UPLD.LST Notice that the HOLD_DIR is commented out. I have it move the files directly to my toss subdir. You may or may not want to do that. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 279 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/29/93 7:16p Subj: Printer Port. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Tim Jacobs: > > TL> Get a copy of a program (or something similar to it) called > TL> STACKEY. This is You can make it jam a [CR] into the > > I'm willing to bet that it won't. When Ptccmain runs it will not allow > those keyboard stuffer programs to work. Don't tell that to my machine then It's only been working for 4 days now. I get it to press Enter once to get past that first annoying message (I'll be getting my code tomorrow, so I'll be legal for three months) and then after about 2 seconds, press Enter twice more to get the status line to display on the bottom. Like I said, don't tell my machine that it won't work. :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 280 To: ALL Date: 10/29/93 10:21p Subj: QWK program Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've had a few messages concerning the post that I did to Patty about the QWK processing program. Here's a cap from the doc file: MKNet - QWK Network Interface Copyright by 1991, 1993 by Mark May INTRODUCTION This set of programs allows MK, RA1.1x, RA2.0, QuickBbs, and SuperBbs to work with networks that are based on the QWK format. It may also be manually configured to support other BBS types that use Hudson, Squish, *.Msg, JAM, or Ezycom format message bases. This is the "Node" program to support such a network (similar in function to programs like RNet, QNet, or TNet). To be a hub in a QWK based network you would also need a QWK mail door that support net-status, such as MKQwk. If you think this is what you need, you can freq me for: MKNET111.ARJ 221993 10/13/93 06:10 at 1:3807/401 or 402. Both are 14.4 v.32bis. Points welcome. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 281 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 10/29/93 1:30p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Murray, Please send me a quick routed netmail quoting this message if you would? I need to verify that things are working as they should. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 282 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 10/28/93 11:34a Subj: Product Lock problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, To my surprise I found my system locked with the following message: This Product Lock will expire after 10 more Day(s) Please call P.S.I. (615) 623-4694 Press enter to Cont. Does this mean that monthly subscribers have to monitor their systems for the last 10 days and press enter every time their systems bring up the satellite software ? Or do they loose 10 days out of each month if they want to get rid of this message. I'm running a fully automated system, and wouldn't mind a message AFTER expiration, but I can't babysit my system for 24 Hrs and manually press ENTER for the last 10 days whenever the satellite software is activated. Second, why does the TV software require this printer Product Lock ? Do all the users have to buy on of those interfaces ? BTW: I wrote some TSR software that now automatically takes care of this. Best Regards, Hans --- PcBoard 15.0U * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 L's, 10 G's. Inet:logical.cuc.ab.ca (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK STENNETT Number: 283 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 10/29/93 8:36p Subj: FINALLY CONNECTED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DP> of mail. It looks as if they were to be routed to 396/1. I CW> Yup, arrived here too, and were forwarded by my system. My CW> NC probably trashed them as host-roouted echomail. It CW> happens. A large number of them were slapped down as they flew over here... --- timEd-B9 * Origin: DATAMAZE CONSOLE (1:203/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 284 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 10/31/93 1:17a Subj: Product Lock problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HH> Hello Boyd, HH> To my surprise I found my system locked with the following HH> message: HH> This Product Lock will expire after 10 more Day(s) HH> Please call P.S.I. (615) 623-4694 HH> Press enter to Cont. HH> Does this mean that monthly subscribers have to monitor their systems HH> for the last 10 days and press enter every time their systems bring up HH> the satellite software ? Or do they loose 10 days out of each month if Just a thought. Author: Why don't you just have the PC send a netmail message to the sysop of 3615/51 informing him the program is about to expire? Something my co-sysop thought of. Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 285 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 10/29/93 4:42p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Murray Pletsch wrote in a message to Tim Jacobs: I know I'm a newbie re:posting here, but I've been around for a bit .. MP> It seems irregular that Planet Systems would have to get MP> into any moderating process. In my opinion, Planet Connect MP> is a carrier of data. If a Moderator wants someone cut from MP> a feed then that moderator should contact the downlink's NC MP> for rectification of the problem. The downlink gets his MP> node number from the NC of his net and the Moderator (if he MP> has a problem with a downlink) should be talking to the What does getting a node number have to do with _ANYTHING_? Moderators can NOT kick a person out of Fidonet. PC is not only the carrier, but ALSO the HUB. When a moderator deems neccesary to disconnect a node, they contact the HUB or NET ECHO COORDINATOR, whoever is responsible for getting the mail to that person. _They_ have the power to say who's in or out of the echos. I'm not offering a solution, just pointing out some facts .. MP> Maybe I am missing something here but I would like to think MP> that Boyd and Company would refuse to get into ANY fidonet MP> policy discussion and adopt a purely business attitude MP> without getting hung up with the BS. Regards....Murray Actually, a possible solution - at the fido feed level, depending on the message base tosser, you can tell it to ignore messages from specified addresses, limiting further distribution of the message. ... Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 286 To: ALL Date: 10/29/93 2:23p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No seed message to open conference --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: BAYOU BBS ## West Monroe, LA ## 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:19/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MCKEE Number: 287 To: ALL Date: 10/30/93 11:33a Subj: transmission errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I wanted to put in my two cents worth to all of you that are complaining about getting errors on files, especially on Ku. There is just simply NO reason for it. I run a dedicated 2 1/2 foot KU system, and the ONLY error I ever got was on the last version of software before the sent over the ptc1009 or whatever the name was. Since then there have been no errors whatsoever. If you are getting errors, short and sweet its from improper dish alignment. I'm sitting at the time of this writing in a early snow storm, with snow setting in and around the dish with no problems. I have also monitored during heavy fog, heavy rain, and never had a problem. Theres no big secret to aiming that dish, but it must be done properly. I personally can't speak for the c-band system, so I won't make any judgements on it, but I personally can find no fault with the Ku system. --- msged 2.07 * Origin: Nobodys Here Now, Florence KY*HST*606-282-9191 (1:108/220) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHANNON CRUEY Number: 288 To: AARON CRUEY Date: 11/01/93 3:22p Subj: That Guy in Australia Refer: NONE Read: 01/07/94 11:43a Private: No I was just wondering if you've been able to get in touch with that huy in Australia using the sat link you were screwing around with last time we talked????? Later.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 289 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 10/31/93 5:06p Subj: Product Lock problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just a thought. Author: Why don't you just have the PC send a netmail > message to the sysop of 3615/51 informing him the program is about to > expire? Something my co-sysop thought of. Technically, we're ALL 3615/51 so we'll all see each other's mail. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 290 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 10/31/93 3:39p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> addressing). There are utilities to allow for these types of things -> however, for instance: > No No No Yes Yes Yes, Mike. > structures. It's a very basic and inneficient networking > method using packets designed for "offline readers". It has True, but some smaller nets are using it or something similar to pass their mail, Mike, or so I understand. > and Fidonet. PCBoard networking programs such as QNet(the > original), RNet, Rosemail, CAMMail, CNet, and TNet are > among those that support this standard. Ahhh, okay, perhaps that's where my confusion comes in. > Postlink (formerly called PCRelay) is a much more advanced > networking technology developed by Kip Compton. PL does > things like encrypted mail, routed mail, return receipts, > file sends/requests, network broadcasts, dynamic hub not > requiring a front end, pre-extraction, bi-directional > xfers, satellite(one way) compatability, carbon copy sends, > and Internet/Usenet ready for future use. Like Fido, it You mean when it works properly? We had a RIME hub locally for a while, as well as a couple of leaf nodes until they all got tired of the PostLink problems, Ms. B's snide messages, and Kip's almost complete lack of response and dumped it. > The software supports something innovative called a UTI > (universal text interface). A UTI allows *ANY* IBM BBS Yeah, that I do know about, Mike, and speaking of which, do you happen to have or know where I might locate a UTI for Maximus? I found Mxuti21c.lzh but it lacks the UTILSTRD.exe file needed to operate MegaMail. > Fido/echomail is an old and somewhat sloppy method, but it > gets the job done. Mail takes much longer with Fido than Old yes, as it predates PCRelay/PostLink, etc. but sloppy in what way? (let's continue this netmail as I doubt anyone else is interested in our discussion) > a copywritten secret. Security is also somewhat of a > problem with Fido, unless things are configured properly. The same can be said of almost any software though, Mike, in terms of poor or improper configuration. > Intermail, Opus, etc. It's somewhat complicated to set up, > and in most cases it request a kludge (a "tosser"). Not really a kludge, Mike, although the UTI way of doing it would be more seamless. The main thing that drove me away from any type of PostLink/PCRelay/QWK style network is the necessity of physically logging into another BBS (whether via PostLink, scripts in your favourite telecom software or what) and upload your mail and then wait while it builds your bundle for you to download. That really bites. > These are my opinions and observations of the above. These > are ONLY my opinions, and I don't mean to endorse a > specific product. Have been using all for several years. Understood, and as I said above, would like to continue this discussion with you via netmail, Mike, as I am interested and we may be able to enlighten one another. > We're hubbing about 15 networks (hosting New England Net) A sign of a true masochist, IMHO. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 291 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/31/93 3:41p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think the 16550 uart chip is just a buffer. If you Yes, I believe it has an 8k buffer. > This means that if your system is busy with something > else the incoming data won't get backed up and lost when > there is no place for it to go. True, but if no software support is required to take advantage of it, why then does/did some telecommunications software make you manually enable 16550 FIFO support? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 292 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/31/93 3:42p Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Patty, check your inbound. I attached a file to you that > does *.msg, squish, ezycom, Hudson, and Jam message bases > for any QWK network. Tell me if it's similar to, better, > or worse than the ones you've listed above. Got it, and will do as soon as I've set up a couple of other things in my personal queue, Todd. Been busy as heck here lately. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 293 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 10/31/93 3:43p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > we do is load X00 before running DV (this lets X00 capture > IRQ14 and turn the 16550's buffer on), the Planet Connect > software seems to be dumb enough that it doesn't know X00 > is handling IRQ14. I may be completely wrong as to why it > works, but it does work! And incoming/outgoing calls > thru the modem, nor tossing mail arriving thru the modem > cause errors on PC. Ahhh, that makes sense, Mickey. Thanks for the info. I wonder if the OS/2 version of X00 (SIO.SYS and VSIO.SYS) would allow it to operate in a comparable manner? Hmmmmmm, time for some testing! > PS...Foxy says HI! Tell 'er hello for me also. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 294 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/31/93 3:44p Subj: QWK program Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you think this is what you need, you can freq me for: > > MKNET111.ARJ 221993 10/13/93 06:10 > > at 1:3807/401 or 402. Both are 14.4 v.32bis. Points > welcome. I've also made it available for Freq here, Todd, in the event that anyone's interested. V32B, V42B, H16, both listed and unlisted nodes welcome. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 295 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 10/31/93 2:56p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I believe the QWK type networks require the use of PCRelay or -> PostLink as well as a network address for their network -> (non-zone based addressing). There are utilities to allow for -> these types of things however, for instance: POSTLINK is only needed for RIME. Any other .qwk tosser would work for the other nets. Everybody should be aware however that you can't carry any of these other nets on your board without going through the approval policy for that net. Or to let me rephrase that, you can carry them but you can't enter any replies back onto the net without the net status that comes with that approval. And the replies have to go to a hub that carries that net and turns on the net status for you. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 296 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 10/31/93 3:03p Subj: press enter to continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> It is NOT a good idea to cripple your system with a "press enter -> to continue" prompt just to make sure that people call you to ensure -> that they will enter the right codes in your software. I place your I concur. It really browned me off too that the system sat all day at that prompt. It seems the programmers never heard of a timed loop before. I had mailed off the payment too but it takes time to process. However, PC was agreeable enough to give me a temporary code to bypass this once I told them about it. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 297 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 11/02/93 3:01a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PP> Ahhh, that makes sense, Mickey. Thanks for the info. I PP>wonder if the OS/2 version of X00 (SIO.SYS and VSIO.SYS) PP>would allow it to operate in a comparable manner? Hmmmmmm, PP>time for some testing! Your guess is as good as mine there Patty. We stopped running OS/2 when we couldn't get backup software that would work under it & "talk" to our tape drives. PP> > PS...Foxy says HI! PP> Tell 'er hello for me also. :) Please ingore her swelled head when you next correspond with her in the FemSys Echo...she just got elected President of the Nashville Sysops orginization by a >2-to-1 margin! Mickey.....First executive assistant to Mdm President (for 26 years as of the 19th of this month). --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 298 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/02/93 1:57a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: GS>TL> Aww the PDN people are being real *^#%$^% about the GS>TL> satellite distribution system. They can't see that this is GS>TL> opening doors for people that didn't feel like forking out GS>TL> $200 or more a month to pull in gobs of file echos and GS>TL> message echos. I don't know WHAT aspect of this they are GS>TL> looking at. GS>Loss of -control-.....plain and simple.....Myself and John went 10 rounds GS>with Janis about this back when the satellite service was being GS>concieved.....Their main reason was that Planet Connect was a commercial GS>operation and that they didnt feel PC had a right to make money off others. GS>When asked why they didnt feel the same way about Ma Bell no one could give GS>straight answer. I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One nardy *^#%$^% even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* the mail to the net's co-op, since he felt I (or Planet Connect) shouldn't be making a profit out of this. Huh? I'm running at a $1000+ LOSS right now!! The co-op pays MCI $250/month but doesn't wanna pay PC's $40/mo??? Scheeesh! Foxy --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 299 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/02/93 1:47a Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL>See ya Todd TL>--- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 TL> * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) Todd, are you running Fmail.96 registered on the downlink system? Our Fmail.94 barfed at 396 echo areas and we hadda switch to Gecho in order to handle the 640+ we now have in the list. How many areas will your Fmail handle?? Foxy --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 300 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/02/93 7:53a Subj: Product Lock problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just a thought. Author: Why don't you just have the PC send a netmail > message to the sysop of 3615/51 informing him the program is about to > expire? Something my co-sysop thought of. TL> Technically, we're ALL 3615/51 so we'll all see each other's mail. TL> See ya Todd Locally...the software on your end will write the message, not received from PC (sorry for the wording). Kinda like Areafix/Raid/Seal/etc. when they write a message to the Sysop. Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 301 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/04/93 6:29a Subj: Pc Software Refer: 298 Read: NO Private: No -> I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One nardy *^#%$ -> even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* the mail to the net's Like Greg said, there're folks out there who are scared to death of Planet Connect - It puts their current *control* of the mail distribution in jeopardy. Until everyone realizes that Planet Connect is nothing more than a *means* of distributing FidoNet mail, these people will continue to shout their high ascii.... My own personal opinion is until they can *compete* with Planet Connect on price & service, they should accept the situation for what it is: Good ol' competition that they can't match! tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 302 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 11/02/93 12:07a Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > POSTLINK is only needed for RIME. Any other .qwk tosser > would work for the other nets. Everybody should be aware Thanks for the info, Rudy. I wasn't certain if any of the other networks were now using PostLink as well. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 303 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/02/93 9:35p Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I used MegaMail for a long time but now I have found TimEd > and I love it. No conversion is needed so there are no dupes > on my system since I can read the same message base my > callers use. Personally, I could care less about MegaMail (read my origin line, Terry, I'm running as a point off of my own main system) but my users want it and yes, TimEd is nice. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 304 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/02/93 9:36p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I wonder why the info that came with the demodulator > suggested we have one if it wasn't supported? Dunno, wishful thinking perhaps? A friend of mine already picking up off of satellite couldn't run it at all without a 16550 UART in his machine. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 305 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/02/93 9:37p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I thought it was 16 bits??? You're probably right, Todd, although I don't recall for certain any longer. Obviously, eh? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 306 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/03/93 7:33p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One nardy *^#%$^% > even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* the mail to the net's > co-op, since he felt I (or Planet Connect) shouldn't be making a profit > out of this. Huh? I'm running at a $1000+ LOSS right now!! The co-op > pays MCI $250/month but doesn't wanna pay PC's $40/mo??? Scheeesh! Most of the end nodes didn't realize exactly how much money we were spending on long distance bills. You seem almost to the point that people are about to have to start getting their own damn echomail. A couple of months of THEM fighting to get through for polls, filling up hard drives, and in general configuration problems would have given them an "attitude adjustment." The only bad thing in this net is that not many people have the hard drive space for the increased influx in file flow that has occurred here. Oh, well, I reap all the benefits alone then :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 307 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/03/93 7:39p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL>--- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 > > Todd, are you running Fmail.96 registered on the downlink system? Our Yep. > Fmail.94 barfed at 396 echo areas and we hadda switch to Gecho in order > to handle the 640+ we now have in the list. How many areas will your > Fmail handle?? Well I kind of cheat I just don't define all of the areas in the FidoNet.NA. Fmail .96 has areafix forwarding and passthrough deletion (for registered users...at $19 it was a steal). I simply define which groups qualify for areafix forwarding. Fmail will create a new area and automatically add the node to send it to and the node to get it from (3615/50) so that I don't have to do ANYTHING. Once per night I run a utility that a local user wrote to import the actual descriptions from the FidoNet.NA into my FMAIL.AR config. Works quite well with PC. Passthrough deletion doesn't actually *delete* the area from the configs, just makes it inactive, so once a week, I go through and delete all areas with no nodes listed in them. I also avoid all low memory configurations by running PC and Fmail on a monochrome machine with QEMM. Know what that does for it? QEMM maps the first 64K segment of upper memory (normally used by VGA) to DOS memory, so I have 720K of DOS memory to play with. Get about 666K free after all my network device drivers are loaded. Fmail has NO memory shortage problems. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.25 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 308 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/03/93 7:20p Subj: Eastern Standard Time Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: EM> Boyd, EM> Do you realize that we can not reset our system time back to EM> EST or the lock complains with: EM> "Security Error ####-####-####" EM> "Date Violation or Execute count expired" EM> "Please call P.S.I. (615 623-4694." EM> If I set the time back to EDT I can run the program. EM> Is there a way to fix this so my computer can use the EM> correct time? Yup......If you will note it sets the CMOS clock back to its previous setting when it gets the error..... There are two choices: 1. Set the clock back and wait an hour before bringing the software up 2. Set it -ahead- an hour, run it, get the error then set it to what it should be. I found this by accident when I had the same problem. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 309 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/03/93 7:27p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Foxy Ferguson wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Loss of -control-.....plain and simple.....Myself and John went 10 rounds GS>with Janis about this back when the satellite service was being GS>concieved.....Their main reason was that Planet Connect was a commercial GS>operation and that they didnt feel PC had a right to make money off others. GS>When asked why they didnt feel the same way about Ma Bell no one could give GS>straight answer. FF> I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One FF> nardy *^#%$^% even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* FF> the mail to the net's co-op, since he felt I (or Planet FF> Connect) shouldn't be making a profit out of this. Huh? I'm FF> running at a $1000+ LOSS right now!! The co-op pays MCI FF> $250/month but doesn't wanna pay PC's $40/mo??? Scheeesh! Well I pretty much wrote off the initial investment to "Big boys have expensive toys" :).....But I setup a dedicated system, dedicated phone line, etc etc.....I took all monthly costs including estimated return mail via ma bell and added $15 a month to that for hardware upkeep. I feed 3 groups of folks for a total of about 75 systems. I charge a CRP fee of $35 a month per group which covers the monthly expenses.....If they dont wanna pay they dont get mail. I have NO desire to operate at a profit but neither will I operate at a loss other than possibly the initial investment. Everyone seems to be quite happy as they are getting the cheapest, reliable feed they have ever had. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 310 To: MARK STENNETT Date: 11/03/93 7:37p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mark Stennett wrote in a message to Murray Pletsch: > What does getting a node number have to do with _ANYTHING_? > Moderators can NOT kick a person out of Fidonet. MP> Should someone refuse to cut a link and the debate went to MP> the last straw the NC could cut the node number. No node MP> number.....no participation in Fidonet.....it is that MP> easy...! MS> Show us the policy that makes that possible... The same part that gets abused anytime someone in 'power' wants to get rid of someone....-excessively annoying-. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 311 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/02/93 12:25a Subj: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Kavanagh wrote in a message to Mike Labbe: KK> Run KK> PCUTIL CHECK4 KK> you should have pcutil somewhere on your satellite system's KK> drive. They send it enough times per day :) KK> edit the PCU.cfg to match your set up and run it first when KK> you exit to process mail. KK> the "check4" means check the index file (pcutil creates) for KK> dup file names and delete entries that are 4days old (so KK> that *.SU? doesnt get duped on the follwoing sunday) I recently found out that sort.exe must also be on your exec path or pcutil chokes prior to cleaning up the check.idx file. All fixed and working fine now that I added sort.exe to my 'DOS' directory. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 312 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/02/93 12:29a Subj: Sunday's Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, Why did Sundays bundles go from 0000FFFF.SUJ to 0000FFFF.SUN with nothing in between .... did we miss a pile of mail? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 313 To: ALL Date: 11/03/93 9:02a Subj: Filebone areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone made an accurate list of exactly what is and what is not coming down in file areas ? I did a have a look last night and I came up with the following.. Not coming in ============= PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht Novell 278/01 ???? Soundnet 327/1 Robert Johnson Treknet 206/1701 Marshall Presnell Genealogy 18/230 John Grove dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle CDN 394/1 Ray Waldo zyxel 102/825 Patrick Martin dharmanet 255/33 Barry Kapke olrnet 377/61 Paul Knupke doornet 374/6 Alex Rose Lannet 124/6101 Authur Geffen Geos 291/11 John Johnson As Far as I can tell PC is not connected to any of these filebone areas, maybe Boyd can let us know why, - They refused - They were somehow missed - a feed is not possible Although I have seen files in the followng areas they are few and far between have they stoped or just slow? MSDN Mac Net DTPnet WDN - Wordperfect etc Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 314 To: BILL WALTON Date: 11/04/93 1:37p Subj: Re: Filebone areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not coming in > ============= PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) Novell 278/01 ???? (Active) Soundnet 327/1 Robert Johnson (Active) Treknet 206/1701 Marshall Presnell (Not Active) Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) CDN 394/1 Ray Waldo (Not Active) zyxel 102/825 Patrick Martin (Active) dharmanet 255/33 Barry Kapke (Not on filebone?) olrnet 377/61 Paul Knupke (Active now) doornet 374/6 Alex Rose (Not on filebone??) Lannet 124/6101 Authur Geffen (Active) Geos 291/11 John Johnson (Active ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 315 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/04/93 1:38p Subj: Re: Sunday's Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Why did Sundays bundles go from 0000FFFF.SUJ to > 0000FFFF.SUN with nothing in between .... did we miss a pile of > mail? Nope just that they did not get sent to the uplink and I added them manually the next day or two. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 316 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/03/93 10:47a Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Hello George. I tried that with Raid (v1.00) and it didn't like the cmdline >option. Could you send whatever later version exists to Boyd to he can get >it out via the satellite...? The latest raid (v1.23) is available via FidoNet file request from 1:270/101 as RAID and the doc as RAIDDOC. I won't be asking Boyd to distribute the software. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 317 To: MIKE MCKEE Date: 11/03/93 12:05p Subj: TRANSMISSION ERRORS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >There is a term called sidelobing which I think many of you are >experiencing, this is where your are getting a 'ghost' signal which may be >as low as 30 or 40 percent of the actual signal. A Satellite Dealer with a Absolutely. I picked up no less than 3 "good" signals when I did the aiming dance. All offered a definite increase in the signal tone, offered data indicator, and good meter. But when I found the real signal it was unmistakably different. Very well defined and solid. I was playing a guessing game. The slip of paper with the coordinates was absent any writing. But that didn't deter me. I spent a wonderful half hour out in the yard wearing that dish. I was among the informed though. I did this stuff in the army twenty-something years ago. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 318 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/04/93 6:23p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Don't feel rained on... I offered to GIVE it to my local net at TB> my subscription cost and they didn't take me up on it... they TB> first have to "study the feasibility." Yeah. and study it... and study it... ad infinitum. We offered to be an echomail test hub (me & all six of my downlinks) when the 1st dish (the file co-op's) arrived in our net, so we as a net could KNOW how reliable 'twas. No response of ANY kind from our NEC. So at the urging of the downlinks, Hubby & I went and ordered our own dish. Now the REC is quitting as of Jan 1st and the NEC is faced with finding a new land-line link, not to mention that the NEC-administered CRP has *three* satellite downlinks in the area already, all with the potential of undercutting the CRP's price structure; the CRP Co-op members are in a bit (to say the least) of turmoil, and nobody knows what's coming next. I don't think some people can see (or will admit) that while FidoNet has been evolving in the past, this time it's been hit with a revolution, and individual nodes seem to have only three choices: 1) hide your head in the sand and hope it'll go away. It won't. 2) fight it, and hope to win. Not likely. 3) go for it and see how to make IT work for you. Best choice. Me, I wanna be a survivor of this revolution. I guess you do too. BTW, where 'bouts in Alabama are you located? I'm 'bout 25 miles west of Nashville. Foxy --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 319 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/04/93 6:38p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL>Well I kind of cheat I just don't define all of the areas in the TL>FidoNet.NA. Fmail .96 has areafix forwarding and passthrough deletion (for TL>registered users...at $19 it was a steal). Neat. *I* don't call that cheatin', just using the ol' noggin. TL>I also avoid all low memory configurations by running PC and Fmail on a TL>monochrome machine with QEMM. Know what that does for it? Damn! Never thought 'bout using that spare monochrome CRT in the corner. Regards, Foxy --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 320 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/04/93 3:04p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is anyone who is NOT a member of RIME picking up the RIME mail and passing -> it on to RIME nodes WITHOUT Postlink? If so, how do you have things -> working? a) Rime is not currently available through PC. b) RIME is a private network, with a yearly dues, and requires Postlink software for both nodes and hubs. Converting the bases would compromise the functionality of the software and violate network policy. Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 321 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/06/93 5:24p Subj: Pc Software Refer: 318 Read: NO Private: No -> 1) hide your head in the sand and hope it'll go away. It won't. That's what the moderators are doing... -> 2) fight it, and hope to win. Not likely. That's what the disgruntled *C's are doing... -> 3) go for it and see how to make IT work for you. Best choice. Hooray for us, that's what *we're* doing! |) tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 322 To: ROB NELSON Date: 11/05/93 7:39a Subj: Eastern Standard Time Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Shut down PTCCMAIN, set your time back, and don't start up > PTCCMAIN for minimum one hour. Thanks! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 323 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/05/93 7:43a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > they are holding out for the new phone system that will deliver > data at 64 k a second and save them money ...which is due to > become available in our area in about 15 short years. Poor misguided folks huh? I've been an NEC for about 5 years and have always paid a lot of my own cash to get 1/3 of what we're getting now. Now I can use that money to buy some more CD roms!! (got any to sell?) Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 324 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/05/93 7:56a Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That is my question: if the "owners" are so concerned about PC's > making a buck off their efforts (which they're not, really), > what's the difference between that and the Telco? Besides, WHO I agree. There is no difference between PC and the Telco to me, except that the satellite delivers better because I don't get busy signals. In my opinion, they are both "carriers". Fido never really spelled out the policy when it came to "making a profit" with Echomail. It always assumed that the phone company would be making a profit. I figure that this would mean that any true carrier (rather than an end node or Fido hub) would be exempt from this rule. PC's services are really a method of transmission just like the Telco. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 325 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 11/05/93 7:59a Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Can we start an area call PSDN Programmers Software Distribution > Network. Or how about Programmers *** Satellite *** Distribution Network? --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 326 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/05/93 9:46p Subj: RE: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) >etc... Boyd, would it help or hurt if we asked via netmail for those areas that are denied to PC to reconsider? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 327 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 11/05/93 11:10p Subj: Press Enter To Continue Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Terry, as long as everyone out here in satelliteland is doing everything > we can to automate the operation of our sites....AND...PC's software has > unexpected little nastys like the built into > it that cause folks to lose mail, it life WILL be short. I don't care > how cheap it is if I can't depend on it! Simple as that. And as long as people know how to use programs like STACKEY to stuff keyboard buffers then we will continue to use Planet Connect. endofthread BUT, if I don't remember to call PC for my three month code, I WON'T be working :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 328 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/05/93 11:17p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >Raid is everything that I wanted (didn't have autoforward, but I suspect > Forwarding is something folks seem to like. But it > scares me from a practical sense. It's not like echomail where your > downlinks up your load by a only small amount with every request. True. I would stress very strongly in your docs, that if you are not dedicated to serving the nodes under you, then it would be a good idea to disable forwarding. In my case, the Filebone is definitely worth autoadding as I get it as part of my $40 anyway. > >I hated to because the Allfix support seems like a less than fair group. > >But I won't whine any more.. > The allfix group, besides being very money-oriented, are certainly > dedicated to their program/cause. Sometimes nearly to the point of A *VERY* nice way of putting it. > violence. I enjoy using software. I even have some favorites. I dare > sayI'd never consider dying over it. The specs on the allfix and file To be honest, there's nothing I have found that I *didn't* like yet. > manager programs look pretty neat. Actual mileage may vary. Been good so far. I just didn't like the way they treated *you*. 'nuff said See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 329 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 11/05/93 11:18p Subj: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> 16550AFN (I use the BNU 1.88 beta). I suspect that even though PC > -> can't handle the FIFO, > I don't think so.. if PC isn't calling the fossil driver then it won't > use the FIFO.. I have however tried a few utilities that are supposed to > turn on the Fifo for Dos programs that don't.. And it did sorta work.. Basically what I've found is that if you enable the 16550 buffering (via a fossil or 16550.exe) then PC can't talk to the port. It can only be done after the initial opening of the port by PC (as per my feeble tests) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 330 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 11/05/93 11:20p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > I thought it was 16 bits??? > You're probably right, Todd, although I don't recall for > certain any longer. Obviously, eh? Well it must be the quality of my Crown: I was wrong too. 16 bytes. But, hey! Close enough for us, eh? :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 331 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/05/93 6:09p Subj: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If the interrupts are busy for any significant amount of time, the > UART fifo won't help much. That 16-byte buffer has always been sufficient here. And, we tried handling an old HST on 2 different XT's without it, and it didn't work. You'd have to have some REALLY slow hardware to cause character loss with the FIFO buffer working. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 332 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 11/05/93 6:17p Subj: PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > sites....AND...PC's software has unexpected little nastys like the > built into it that cause folks to lose It's a moot point, Mickey. Planet Connect is listening; Boyd has already announced a new version of the software that doesn't have the trap. I'm sure that all of us will have trouble from time to time, some of it no doubt due to PC's screwups. I'm JUST as sure that they will do everything in their power to prevent future occurrances, and to make our lives as painless as possible when it comes to echomail. Cut them a bit of slack while they go through the learning curve with us. <> --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 8+ gigs, 90,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 333 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/05/93 8:48a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Mark Stennett: > What does getting a node number have to do with _ANYTHING_? > Moderators can NOT kick a person out of Fidonet. MP> Should someone refuse to cut a link and the debate went to MP> the last straw the NC could cut the node number. No node MP> number.....no participation in Fidonet.....it is that MP> easy...! MS> Show us the policy that makes that possible... GS> The same part that gets abused anytime someone in 'power' GS> wants to get rid of someone....-excessively annoying-. As quoted.. _show_ us the policy that says that we can take a node's node number away, for being annoying in _one_ echo. Go ahead and download policy 4, and quote it.. Moderators do have SOME power; that power permeates only over their own echo, and not over a node's normal business. They can _not_ demand a NC/RC/ZC revoke a person's node number, just for being out of hand in, say, the "FOOBAR" echo. A moderator CAN, however, request that a node no longer be allowed to participate in an echo. For some cases, total disconnection is the answer. For some feeds, they can give the echo to the node but refuse to take mail posted. Easy enough. Don't think that I'm just anti-moderator. I am the moderator of 4 different echos myself; one of them, I have to be a vigalante in trying to maintain order in it. I can't take away _any_ of their node numbers; all I can do is contact the person's sysop/hub/next up in the chain, and block their ability to post. It'd be NEAT to kill a BBS just because I felt power hungry.. but that's not how it works. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 334 To: JOE OVERHOLT Date: 11/06/93 12:46p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Joe: Well, Joe, it was your idea to put the crippled software where people could use it. So we have to call you in order to get connected to Planet Connect. So where the hell are you? My software got crippled on Sat, as per your schedule. I sent in my bucks, but you hadn't received it yet. So I was told that it was your policy that I have to wait until you received proof. So I waited. Well, now I called on Sat morning because, as per schedule, your ****ing crippled software started limping on me and needed me to puch the ENTER key again, and where are you? I called at 12:10PM Sat morning expecting somewhere to be there are there WASN'T. So NOW I have to put up with babysitting your software all ****ing weekend just because you people have the nerve to cripple software and not be around to uncripple it to paying customers. Thanks, Joe. My whole net really appreciates it. Do me and everyone else a favor. If you don't plan to be around to uncripple software when we need it, then put an annoying message on the D*** screen, but don't cripple the software so it doesn't work in a batch file. When people's subscription runs out, THEN make the software COMPLETELTY unusable. Don't do this halfway shit. It pisses people off, and pissed off people tend to go to the competition. Rudolf Rothemund PS: If you create a file called GO in your c:\planetc directory and place in it a ^M , then place in your batch file PTCCMAIN < C:\PLANETC\GO, it bypasses your little stunt. --- WM v3.01/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 335 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/06/93 12:18p Subj: Eastern Standard Time Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS >1. Set the clock back and wait an hour before bringing the GS >software up WOW!!! is that all it is? I had a real bad time trying to see what machine it would actually work on and it kept tossing me out! I think I now have the times sysncronised on all machines will that help? ttyl Laz (this is my first full day running one here. I am a newbe!) --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS [403]327-9731 Lethbridge,AB (1:358/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 336 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/06/93 9:08p Subj: Sunday's Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd-- BG> Nope just that they did not get sent to the uplink and I added them BG> manually the next day or two. Were these named as part of those day's mail bundles? (i.e. MO1,TU2,WE3, etc?) I hope so. I had wondered about this break in the bundle names, too. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 337 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/05/93 10:31p Subj: Re: Filebone areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, * In a message originally to Bill Walton, Boyd Goodin said: > > Not coming in > > ============= > > PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access > denied) --CLIP-- > Geos 291/11 John Johnson (Active What would be the chanches of me sending the files headed for the "bone" to you with my outbound bundles? Or would it be better to try and get a connection with John S. directly to uplink the new files? Reason I ask is because the existing link is gonna go away. :) John --- FastEcho 1.30/g * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 338 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/07/93 2:31a Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy-- TM> Boyd, would it help or hurt if we asked via netmail for those areas that TM> are denied to PC to reconsider? Well, I just got thru with a lengthy rebuttal to the GSDS head honcho, John Le Duc. He was getting crass because of several (maybe more?) netmails that were taking him to task for not allowing GSDS on the feed just yet. And to top it all off, NONE of the folks that netmailed him were even into genealogy!!! GSDS is the genealogy software net, and I am a Genealogy sysop. He posted in the Genealogy Sysop echo for anyone to speak their mind about this, so I did. He (and obviously a portion of the sysops in that echo - me excluded, because I didn't even know a poll was being taken about this in February) decided in February to take a "let's wait and see how it goes/fizzles" attitude, and enacted a 1-year moratorium on allowing GSDS on the satellite. Well, he is putting it back before the sysops now to see if anyone has changed their mind. Two have spoken up AGAINST it. (And wouldn't you know neither of them have any experience with PC?????????). Well, I let my hair down about it. I said this to say this to you: NO, NO, NO!!!! DON'T antagonize these folks by cluttering up their netmail areas. All it's going to do is add fuel to the fire. Some of them are just buttheads, and don't want their authority threatened. I would suggest we post in their echo areas and ask the "members" of their file nets what their opinion is. We need to be positive about Planet Connect in everything we do and say to whoever we do/say it to. WE know it's a great deal. Obviously some of them don't, yet. What does anyone else reading this say????? Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 339 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/07/93 12:49a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: MP> Should someone refuse to cut a link and the debate went to MP> the last straw the NC could cut the node number. No node MP> number.....no participation in Fidonet.....it is that MP> easy...! MS> Show us the policy that makes that possible... GS> The same part that gets abused anytime someone in 'power' GS> wants to get rid of someone....-excessively annoying-. JF> As quoted.. _show_ us the policy that says that we can take JF> a node's node number away, for being annoying in _one_ JF> echo. Go ahead and download policy 4, and quote it.. JF> Moderators do have SOME power; that power permeates only JF> over their own echo, and not over a node's normal business. JF> They can _not_ demand a NC/RC/ZC revoke a person's node JF> number, just for being out of hand in, say, the "FOOBAR" JF> echo. I didnt say they could......Put your glasses on Jason :) What I did say was "The same part......." as quoted above.....The moderator cant do it, that much you are right about......Nor should the NC or RC or ZC be able to do it if they only act up in -one- echo....But you let someone show their butt multiple times or get a bunch of 'powers that be' against them and they will lose their node number....Its happened many times..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 340 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/08/93 1:28a Subj: Re: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is this a definitive list of those refusing to allow their FDN to flow? Yep. > These folks have quite the nerve...Any immediate plans to implement areas > like the UTILNET2 for these also? Tell me about it. Theirs (and yours) loss. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 341 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/08/93 1:30a Subj: Re: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > .FRB > .FRC > Is there any way to remedy this? This is a new extended charactor set. If your tosser does not handle the new format you will have to manually extract the ones with extensions of A to Z. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH GIBSON Number: 342 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/06/93 1:58p Subj: Re: Filebone areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > doornet 374/6 Alex Rose (Not on filebone??) BG>....Boyd Hi Boyd, you said not on filebone...? ___ cut from filebone.na Area DOORDIST 0 U Door Files: NodeLists & Official Files Area DFN_APP 0 U Door Files: Door Applications Area DFN_NAPP 0 U Door Files: Net Work Applications Area DFN_ARCD 0 U Door Files: Arcade Game Doors Area DFN_CHAN 0 U Door Files: Chance Doors (Gambling) Area DFN_DEVP 0 U Door Files: Door Development Area DFN_MISC 0 U Door Files: Misc. Doors Area DFN_RPG 0 U Door Files: Role Playing Games Area DFN_SPRT 0 U Door Files: Sport Doors Area DFN_TRIV 0 U Door Files: Trivia Doors Area DFN_UTIL 0 U Door Files: Door Utilities Area DFN_WAR 0 U Door Files: War Game Doors Area DFN_WC 0 U Door Files: Wild Cat Doors Area DFN_PCB 0 U Door Files: PCBoard Doors ; Headquarters 1:374/6 Alex Rose ; SysOp Echo: D_SYSOP ; Info file: Request DOORNET ; DoorFile Network (Zone 75) --- In my filebone file there listed. Only thing I see that Alex won't let them go out unless you belong to Doornet... Then why list them in the Filebone if there are not going to be available. JG! * QMPro 1.51 * A father is a banker provided by nature. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0047] * Origin: Reservation Only! Las Vegas,Nv 702-898-8630 (1:209/721) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 343 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/07/93 12:26p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Foxy! Thursday November 04 1993, Foxy Ferguson writes to Terry Blount: FF> We offered to be an echomail test hub (me & all six of my downlinks) FF> when the 1st dish (the file co-op's) arrived in our net, so we as a net FF> could KNOW how reliable 'twas. No response of ANY kind from our NEC. So :((( FF> *three* satellite downlinks in the area already, all with the potential FF> of undercutting the CRP's price structure; the CRP Co-op members are in FF> a bit (to say the least) of turmoil, and nobody knows what's coming FF> next. In Net 153 we have taken a very active view that if it is cheaper and reliable, lets do it. After the initial testing period we find it is both. The Net sponsored CRP has made arrangements with one PCSite for The Fido Echomail and FileBone areas and is looking at the very real possibility of bringing a second (existing PC system) on stream for the Net real soon. We believe we will need the bandwidth to get the stuff to the Top Net Hubs in a timley fashion for feeding on to the Hubs who actually feed the nodes.) With the increasing demand for links into the Echomail and File distribution, we are finding our problems are no longer one of cost, but of efficiency of moving and processing all the stuff within reasonable time frames. It is working very well, almost to great, we are having to bring on many more Hubs to keep up with the demand for new links... and there is a definite educational period involved... :) FF> I don't think some people can see (or will admit) that while FidoNet has FF> been evolving in the past, this time it's been hit with a revolution, FF> and individual nodes seem to have only three choices: Unfortunately, this happen a lot, in many areas of life, manufacturing, business... just take a look at the economies of two countriesd. I am thankful to be here to be a part of this revolution, it is quite exciting FF> 1) hide your head in the sand and hope it'll go away. It won't. FF> 2) fight it, and hope to win. Not likely. FF> 3) go for it and see how to make IT work for you. Best choice. 3. Best choice (only one really) :) Cheers, Ervin ... Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 344 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/07/93 12:31p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Thursday November 04 1993, Terry Blount writes to Jason Fesler: TB> ...and you think that is "nice" ?? What if I didn't like you TB> and I moderated a conference... or what if one moderator didn't TB> like another moderator? Moderators have WAY too much authority TB> and they have no regulations as far as I can tell. Yes, Moderators are GAWD's of their echoes... :((( in the great majority of the Backbone echoes, this actually seems not to cause a great deal of trouble, but in those cases where it does, ir "really" does :(( I am/was hoping to see some sort of restraint mechanism instituted into the New Echopol, it may not appear due to the vocal few who wish to keep their GAWD positions. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 345 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/07/93 12:35p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Friday November 05 1993, Terry Blount writes to Foxy Ferguson: TB> The people like me and the others who started getting the TB> satellite feed don't want to stir up trouble by recruiting TB> sysops from the old net to join with us in getting the satellite TB> feed and sharing the cost... so more and more PC subscriptions TB> will follow. It is unfortunate that type of attitude exists. A very nice marriage between Net sponsired CRP's and PC Sites can work wonders for the Sysops of a Net.... Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 346 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 11/06/93 6:34a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Your guess is as good as mine there Patty. We stopped > running OS/2 when we couldn't get backup software that > would work under it & "talk" to our tape drives. Shame on you, Mickey! Where's your sense of adventure? > Please ingore her swelled head when you next correspond > with her in the FemSys Echo...she just got elected > President of the Nashville Sysops orginization by > a >2-to-1 margin! Cool. I'll send her my congrats via FEMALE_SYSOP. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 347 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/06/93 6:36a Subj: SATELLITE SCHEDULE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's 16 BYTES. Thanks for toggling my buffer back on, Jim. > The FIFO buffer is disabled by default, and must be turned > on (enabled) by software somehow. Either the comm software > itself, a FOSSIL, or 16550.EXE. And thanks much! for this timely answer also. It's what had me puzzled when folks were saying that the current software used the 16550 while PC support was saying Not! --)@ Patty @(-- P.S. Good to see you also survived the BBSCON. --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 348 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 11/06/93 6:38a Subj: Re: echo list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > much worse "rap" than it deserves... Been running it here > since 1988 with very few problems. Most problems are I was under the impression that PostLink just came out a year or so ago, Mike, or are you talking about PCRelay & PostLink? > No, unfortunately I don't... But if you call RUNNING BOARD > BBS in Bethesda, MA they have all the known UTIs available. Thanks Mike, will do. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 349 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/06/93 6:40a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > No ... it's just a 16 byte buffer, actually. Yeah, Jim Dunmyer reminded me, Hector, but thanks. > If the interrupts are busy for any significant amount of > time, the UART fifo won't help much. Aww, just go and rain on my parade whydontcha? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 350 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 11/06/93 6:43a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have ran almost all BBS packages, Mailers, Tossers, Hardware, > and Networks. Drop us a note when you get around to OS/2 2.1ga or WinNT !NOT!, Ozz. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 351 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/07/93 10:50p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I said this to say this to you: NO, NO, NO!!!! DON'T antagonize > these folks by cluttering up their netmail areas. All it's going to > do is add fuel to the fire. Some of them are just buttheads, and > don't want their authority threatened. It was never my intention to start a netmail annoyance campaign. Fido politics is often annoying all by its self with out any help. On the other hand, it doesn't get anybody anywhere if no one says anything hoping they'll figure out we want the feed either. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 352 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/07/93 9:27p Subj: SEENBYS. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3615/51 being our uplink computer. Please check all areas and remove > it from your seenbys. Boyd, I've put this message in the echo to see if it has no seenby's. I took a look in my control file and have removed that address from where it was supposed to be. Please let me know if this situation continues. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 353 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/07/93 12:42p Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I generate some traffic through the ethernet, like even one of the other > machines requesting time synchronization, I get errors on the PC > download when the machine running PC gets the query accross its NIC. It > seems that the network interface card's interrupts are seriously what IRQ are you using? I have 8 bit (SLOW) arcnet running on IRQ 7 on my PConn machine and have no problems receiving files to my server's hd, even with heavy network activity. And YES I know there is a big difference between the topologies/methodologies of arcnet vs. ethernet. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA2.01+/IM2.23 * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 354 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/07/93 10:18a Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > like religion. Since this conference is basically only > available to those who are "saved" like us and already connected > to the satellite feed you won't find anyone to answer your > question here. <> As one of the fellas in the TBBS echo commented, he sees most non-participating FDN's fading away, due to the vast difference in cost of distubution. "We" are going to get spoiled very quickly, and flat out refuse to make calls for stuff that should by rights be coming in as part of our PC service. Seems to me that they'd be falling all over themselves to be sure that *their* FDN is linked to PC, instead of making some sort of holdout action. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 355 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/06/93 12:16p Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: JF> It would be _nice_ if the Moderator can cut a person's node JF> number out of the nodelist. I know MANY moderators that JF> would love to do that. TB> ...and you think that is "nice" ?? What if I didn't TB> like you and I moderated a conference... or what if one TB> moderator didn't like another moderator? Moderators have TB> WAY too much authority and they have no regulations TB> as far as I can tell. Terry, you didn't read my entire message, or note the sarcasm. I was trying to tell the bloke that you can't do that.. but if moderators had that power, the fidonet would be utter (instead of almost utter) chaos. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com ... Friends don't let friends use Fraudigy. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 356 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 11/07/93 11:29a Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well, Joe, it was your idea to put the crippled software where people > could use it. So we have to call you in order to get connected to > Planet Connect. So where the hell are you? My software got crippled It was me who put that pause in there. > you? I called at 12:10PM Sat morning expecting somewhere to be there > are there WASN'T. So NOW I have to put up with babysitting your Why didn't you can again during the day? I got in at 12:35 pm eastern and stayed till 6 pm. Never got a call back from you. > software all ****ing weekend just because you people have the nerve to > cripple software and not be around to uncripple it to paying customers. Do you expect me to be there 24 hours a day? Man I take half a day off and you blow your top because you expect me to be there on that one call you placed. Sorry I do have a life besides waiting for your call.  > Thanks, Joe. My whole net really appreciates it. Tha sould be thanks Boyd and your welcome. > Do me and everyone else a favor. If you don't plan to be around to > uncripple software when we need it, then put an annoying message on the I was there just not at the time you called. > PS: If you create a file called GO in your c:\planetc directory and > place in it a ^M , then place in your batch file > PTCCMAIN < C:\PLANETC\GO, > it bypasses your little stunt. Well then what are you comlaining about. Seems you fixed it. Are you complaining because I was not there to receive your call or about the pause in the saoftware? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 357 To: TODD LYONS Date: 10/26/93 5:26p Subj: Re: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 25-Oct-1993 22:33 thus spake Todd Lyons unto Phil Miller: TL> Phil, are you running with or without Lancache? Some other cache? No TL> cache? I use smartdrive on the node that processes the mail.. --- GoldED 2.41/Intermail 2.25/FastEcho 1.25/TAG 2.6F1 Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 358 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/07/93 4:24p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Although he was not excited about the new technology he didn't TB> move with it. Now about 3 or 4 of his old feeds have their own TB> satellite connection and the phone bill has to be divided by a TB> lower number of sysops. Planet Connect is clearly the winner. TB> Had the hub subscribed to PC everyone would have shared the $40 TB> expense but now PC is collecting more than twice that from our TB> old net area. Pretty much the same scenario here. Instead of one dish in this net, there's apt to be a minimum of four, as we have a coupla big pay BBS's here that would be wise to get their own. TB> feed and sharing the cost... so more and more PC subscriptions TB> will follow. Yep. Inevitable as measles. TB> I'm located in Bayou La Batre... about half way between Mobile TB> and Dolphin Island. Hey! Send me some of those warm Gulf Coast breezes: 'twas 30 deg and a 20 mph north wind t'other day when I went up on the roof to get the snow off the dish. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 359 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/07/93 5:22p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) Is this a definitive list of those refusing to allow their FDN to flow? These folks have quite the nerve...Any immediate plans to implement areas like the UTILNET2 for these also? --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 360 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 11/07/93 5:22p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ML>a) Rime is not currently available through PC. Thanks -- per the advertisement I thought it was. Per the dish yesterday I wondered. 8-) ML>b) RIME is a private network, with a yearly dues, and requires Postlink ML>software for both nodes and hubs. Converting the bases would compromise the ML>functionality of the software and violate network policy. What I would like to do when RIME comes online is allow the RIME archive(s) to be sent to the local system, let them use PostLink to import the mail, and use PostLink to establish an uplink as we do with the Fidonet uplink. Whether a RIME link used FTN to transport the files or a door makes no difference to me -- having the RIME folks pitch in a few dollars to help reduce the burden on the satelite link is what I am after. --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 361 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/07/93 5:22p Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No There were mail bundles on Saturday with extensions which do not conform to Fidonet ARCmail naming conventions: .FRB .FRC Is there any way to remedy this? --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 362 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/08/93 5:52a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eddie Rowe wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) ER> Is this a definitive list of those refusing to allow their ER> FDN to flow? DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, with DVNET having the most extensive, of which I am a member since it's inception... Considering that CADNET is very specific, and geared towards folks that can afford to purchase a $3000 dollar software package, and at least another $20,000 for the hardware, it has the least impact I'm sure... (IMHO) Genealogy is doing a 'look and see' at the moment, as I understand it... Who cares about ansinet... PDN is adamant about it, total control is what she wants. The FDN of UTILNET retired and passed the hat saying it was 'open'. When he heard that that Kevin and Janis wouldn't allow it on the Sat., he came back out of retirement and started UTILNET2, which Kevin refuses to place into the FILEBONE.NA file so folks can get access to it... As I understand it to be, or IMHO, at the moment... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 363 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/07/93 5:13p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! 03 Nov 93 12:37, Terry Blount wrote to Foxy Ferguson: TB> Don't feel rained on... I offered to GIVE it to my local net at TB> my subscription cost and they didn't take me up on it... they TB> first have to "study the feasibility." One sysops calculated TB> that the $40 cost divided by the number of conferences came out TB> to 25 cents per conference and since he wanted only 3 TB> conferences he decided he should pay 75 cents a month... they TB> were also afraid that lightening would strike my dish or that TB> satellite technology was so "new" that it wasn't reliable... TB> they are holding out for the new phone system that will deliver TB> data at 64 k a second and save them money ...which is due to TB> become available in our area in about 15 short years. After having read all this I felt I must let you know there is hope for our users and fellow sysops. Here in 3648/* . We all met agreed on a flat rate for each system connected to our net (Point or not) and voted on a tresurer. I pay nothing since I invested in the system they manage the quartely monies and I pay ma-bell not a dime!! I love it, here is wishing you more success.. Bert --- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered * Origin: ----> Default GoldED Origin <---- (1:3648/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN DHATT Number: 364 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/05/93 4:59p Subj: Filebone areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thursday November 04 1993 13:37, Boyd Goodin wrote to Bill Walton: BG> Soundnet 327/1 Robert Johnson (Active) ^^^^^^^^^ Does this mean that there is some feed problem? I'd really like to see SoundNet. Brian --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Dhatt's Point (1:3648/2.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 365 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/08/93 10:39a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JF> Terry, you didn't read my entire message, or note the JF> sarcasm. I was trying to tell the bloke that you can't do JF> that.. but if moderators had that power, the fidonet would JF> be utter (instead of almost utter) chaos. You are right... you caught me... I was just browsing messages and looking for a spot to insert my opinion. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 366 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/08/93 10:42a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Foxy Ferguson wrote in a message to Terry Blount: FF> Hey! Send me some of those warm Gulf Coast breezes: 'twas 30 FF> deg and a 20 mph north wind t'other day when I went up on FF> the roof to get the snow off the dish. I really sympathize... it dropped to 44 last night.... liked to have frozen my buns off ! The wife thought I was making moves on her when I was trying to thaw out :) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 367 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/08/93 10:45a Subj: Coming changes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ervin Jay wrote in a message to Terry Blount: EJ> Yes, Moderators are GAWD's of their echoes... :((( in the EJ> great majority of the Backbone echoes, this actually seems EJ> not to cause a great deal of trouble, but in those cases EJ> where it does, ir "really" does :(( EJ> I am/was hoping to see some sort of restraint mechanism EJ> instituted into the New Echopol, it may not appear due to EJ> the vocal few who wish to keep their GAWD positions. Since there is not any apparent check on the quality of moderating I can only hope that the bad ones find themselves moderating a conference that is local to the bbs they access. There should be a maximum number of users who can be asked to leave a conference and if that number is exceeded the conference should be banned from the backbone. If a moderator has so much difficulty getting along with people or they simply can't tolerate different views to the point that they have to continue to kick out participants they are not qualified for the job. I think about 3 expulsions a year is plenty high even in the most controversial echos. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 368 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/08/93 10:53a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ervin Jay wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> The people like me and the others who started getting the TB> satellite feed don't want to stir up trouble by recruiting TB> sysops from the old net to join with us in getting the satellite TB> feed and sharing the cost... so more and more PC subscriptions TB> will follow. EJ> It is unfortunate that type of attitude exists. A very nice EJ> marriage between Net sponsired CRP's and PC Sites can work EJ> wonders for the Sysops of a Net.... In theory... and in many areas YES. But in MOST areas the bachelor lifestyle has prevailed so long that the compromise of marriage is perceived as a threat. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 369 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/08/93 10:57a Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Dunmyer wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > like religion. Since this conference is basically only > available to those who are "saved" like us and already connected > to the satellite feed you won't find anyone to answer your > question here. JD> <> JD> JD> As one of the fellas in the TBBS echo commented, he sees JD> most non-participating FDN's fading away, due to the vast JD> difference in cost of distubution. "We" are going to get JD> spoiled very quickly, and flat out refuse to make calls for JD> stuff that should by rights be coming in as part of our PC JD> service. Seems to me that they'd be falling all over JD> themselves to be sure that *their* FDN is linked to PC, JD> instead of making some sort of holdout action. You do know that Moses could not have delivered the ten commandments if the people had already had an established set of commandmentas ...or a land line in this case :) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 370 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/08/93 5:36p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Tracy Mickley: KJ> I would suggest we post in their echo areas and ask the KJ> "members" of their file nets what their opinion is. We need KJ> to be positive about Planet Connect in everything we do and KJ> say to whoever we do/say it to. WE know it's a great deal. KJ> Obviously some of them don't, yet. KJ> What does anyone else reading this say????? I say "be cool" and show patience. If we, who have found salvation in this new technology, go about stirring up trouble then those who are "lost" may drop out and start their own church. Our goal is to get the files the authors write. It would be an incentive to offer the authors the opportunity to distribute their programs via satellite (if their network isn't connected). All we need is a phone number where shareware authors can upload programs for satellite distribution. The original purpose the distribution networks were created was to distribute files. That can also be the purpose for creating an alternative solution that has temporarily restricted the flow of these files to hundreds of bbs's. The shareware authors found the distribution nets and they will also find a way to get their programs to us if we provide a number they can send them to. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 371 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/08/93 1:49p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Quoting Ken Jackson to Tracy : KJ>What does anyone else reading this say????? I agree with you: don't clutter up their netmail. Flood their echo instead. I'm with you, bud. Foxy Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 372 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/08/93 11:03p Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ER>There were mail bundles on Saturday with extensions which do not conform ER>to Fidonet ARCmail naming conventions: ER>.FRB ER>.FRC ER>Is there any way to remedy this? Just toss the ones with .xx0 thru .xx9, then rename the others in sequence, then toss them. No biggie. My tosser will handle .xx0 thru .xxF, so I do the same when they go to G and above. The other satellite node in our net is running a later ver (registered) of the same tosser I am he says it will toss .xx0 thru .xxZ. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 373 To: MODERATOR Date: 11/06/93 12:58p Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Tim, Is there a reason that Planet_Connect was restricted to Planet_Connect systems only or was that an error? Check the ELIST and you'll see what I mean. I'd like to see PC available to the backbone so people can find out what is going on and stop posting about Sat downlink technology in every other echo in the universe (e.g.-TVRO). What's everyone else think? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 374 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/08/93 8:25p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Well, Joe, it was your idea to put the crippled software where peop -> > could use it. So we have to call you in order to get connected to -> > Planet Connect. So where the hell are you? My software got crippl -> -> It was me who put that pause in there. -> -> > you? I called at 12:10PM Sat morning expecting somewhere to be th -> > are there WASN'T. So NOW I have to put up with babysitting your -> -> Why didn't you can again during the day? I got in at 12:35 pm ea -> stayed till 6 pm. Never got a call back from you. -> -> > software all ****ing weekend just because you people have the nerve -> > cripple software and not be around to uncripple it to paying custom -> -> Do you expect me to be there 24 hours a day? Man I take half a d -> you blow your top because you expect me to be there on that one call -> placed. Sorry I do have a life besides waiting for your call.  -> -> > Thanks, Joe. My whole net really appreciates it. -> -> Tha sould be thanks Boyd and your welcome. -> -> > Do me and everyone else a favor. If you don't plan to be around to -> > uncripple software when we need it, then put an annoying message on -> -> I was there just not at the time you called. -> -> > PS: If you create a file called GO in your c:\planetc directory an -> > place in it a ^M , then place in your batch file -> > PTCCMAIN < C:\PLANETC\GO, -> > it bypasses your little stunt. -> -> -> Well then what are you comlaining about. Seems you fixed it. Are -> complaining because I was not there to receive your call or about the -> the saoftware? -> -> -> ...Boyd -> -> --- DB 1.54/004770 -> * Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) Boyd: To your credit, I appreciate the call you made to make things right on Sunday morning. Thank you for taking the time to call to give me the proper codes and to tell me that you were changing the "crippled software" problem to a much better solution. I'm sorry I got pissed off, and I apoligize. Thanks for making it right. Rudy --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 375 To: TIM HELTON Date: 11/09/93 12:10a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: 11/11/93 6:53p Private: No Hello Tim! 04 Nov 93, Tim Helton writes to Foxy Ferguson: ->> I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One nardy *^#%$ ->> even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* the mail to the net's But...But...But.... I do _give_ it to my net. TH> Like Greg said, there're folks out there who are scared to death of TH> Planet Connect - It puts their current *control* of the mail TH> distribution in jeopardy. The major argument to the system in my net is the "Eggs in the basket" problem. If my system crashes while I'm away (and who's doesn't [smile]) what does the net do then? It's a valid argument. The current system in Net 141 is 14 people polling, 2 each night, for mail from the stars then distrubuting it across the net for free. My contribution to the effort is the "other" echos not currently being polled for. So far it's working quite well. I only supply a portion of the available echos and most of them are fairly low to moderate traffic. The system may change as others in the area link into PC. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Number: 376 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/08/93 8:28p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EJ> It is unfortunate that type of attitude exists. A very EJ> nice marriage between Net sponsired CRP's and PC Sites EJ> can work wonders for the Sysops of a Net.... Hi there, We in Net 353 are going Satellite real soon now. The only problem is the economics. I would be interested in hearing about net 153's "marriage between the CRP and the PC Site". Ian --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Parity Error (1:353/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 377 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/08/93 8:21p Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Todd Lyons of 1:3807/400 writes: >> I generate some traffic through the ethernet, like even one of >> the other machines requesting time synchronization, I get >> errors on the PC download when the machine running PC gets the >> query accross its NIC. It seems that the network interface >> card's interrupts are seriously TL> what IRQ are you using? I have 8 bit (SLOW) arcnet running on TL> IRQ 7 on my PConn machine and have no problems receiving files to TL> my server's hd, even with heavy network activity. And YES I know TL> there is a big difference between the topologies/methodologies of TL> arcnet vs. ethernet. It's running on IRQ 7. I am using SMC... Maybe it's Netware light?? *shrug* This is annoying. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 378 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/08/93 6:34p Subj: RE: WHERE ARE YOU???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ahem.... Incorporated. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 379 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/08/93 5:59a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The command in: > > XU port:?:ON Thanks much, Terry. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 380 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/08/93 6:00a Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well it must be the quality of my Crown: I was wrong too. 16 So drink some for me too, Todd... I think I'm gonna need it. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 381 To: TIM HELTON Date: 11/09/93 1:55a Subj: Backbone Refer: NONE Read: 11/11/93 6:54p Private: No Tim-- Is PLANET_CONNECT going on the backbone or not? I have seen no mention of it in any of the FIDONET.* files. Those that can't get it are cluttering up other echos asking questions, and the users of those echos are getting fed up with seeing questions about PC. So what's the story on this? I asked Boyd a week+ ago, but haven't received any response about this. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 382 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/09/93 2:00a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Eddie-- BG>> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) BG>> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) BG>> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) BG>> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) BG>> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) ER> Is this a definitive list of those refusing to allow their FDN to flow? ER> These folks have quite the nerve...Any immediate plans to implement areas ER> like the UTILNET2 for these also? Hold off on hexing GSDS(genealogy). Us genealogy sysops are putting the screws on them, and I think they are realizing the error of their ways! BTW - they didn't say "access denied", per se. They decided last February to take a "wait-and-see" attitude for 1 year. It was brought back up before the vox populi a few days ago, and I think they are seeing that the moratorium ain't gonna work! I anticipate that it will be allowed on PC by the end of the month. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 383 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 11/09/93 2:06a Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty-- PP> And thanks much! for this timely answer also. It's what had PP> me puzzled when folks were saying that the current software used the 16550 PP> while PC support was saying Not! Ok. So what version are you running as "current"? the 1009 one? Or have you received a later dated version? The one that is coming my way daily is still the 1009 one. Boyd keeps saying "in a few days". Well, when is that????? Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 384 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/09/93 2:08a Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy-- TM> It was never my intention to start a netmail annoyance campaign. Fido TM> politics is often annoying all by its self with out any help. I know. I hope you didn't think I was implying this, either.... I was just cautioning against getting their dander up more, since I had seen some "dander" in the genealogy echo about that netmail stuff. TM> On the other TM> hand, it doesn't get anybody anywhere if no one says anything hoping TM> they'll figure out we want the feed either. And this I agree with. I'm on their case in regard to the GSDS file areas. So are a LOT of other genealogy sysops, it turns out. I think people are going to realize real soon that they are making a B I G mistake in disallowing their areas on PC. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 385 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/08/93 6:56p Subj: SEENBYS. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > 3615/51 being our uplink computer. Please check all areas and remove > > it from your seenbys. > I've put this message in the echo to see if it has no seenby's. I took a > look in my control file and have removed that address from where it was > supposed to be. Please let me know if this situation continues. Well basically, since *we* all got your message then you must have this message area at least setup right. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 386 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/08/93 7:01p Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There were mail bundles on Saturday with extensions which do not > conformto Fidonet ARCmail naming conventions: > > .FRB > .FRC > > Is there any way to remedy this? FOR %%D IN (0000FFFF.*) DO PKUNZIP %%D RBBSMAIL See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 387 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/07/93 10:07a Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Hector, I'm running Novell with 24 EtherNet Stations, a Uart and BNU. Not one single problem, even when I spy on the systems remotely. Had to step up to a KU dish as used by the banks for data exchange though. Regards, Hans * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines. 299-9900. logical.cuc.ab.ca (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 388 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/07/93 10:11a Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Hector, I'm running Novell with 24 EtherNet Stations, a Uart and BNU. Not one single problem, even when I spy on the systems remotely. Had to step up to a KU dish as used by the banks for data exchange though. All stations run 33/40 Mhz 386SX boards. Regards, Hans * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines. 299-9900. logical.cuc.ab.ca (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 389 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 11/11/93 6:35p Subj: Eastern Standard Time Refer: 335 Read: NO Private: No -> Laz -> -> (this is my first full day running one here. I am a newbe!) ^^^^^ We all are - that's what makes it so neat :) tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 390 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/12/93 3:16a Subj: Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> > So what's the story on this? I asked Boyd a week+ ago, but haven't TL> > received any response about this. TL>have to pick a moderator and post on the ZEC echo. Uh, Todd? Don't I recall Tim Helton being installed as Moderator? Dang, but my memory is going. ;-) TL> Then you have to get 25+ TL>nodes (NOT a problem) then get two region coordinators to ask for it (THAT TL>may be a problem since NO region coordinators that I know of are getting it TL>right now) Time will take care of that methinks. TL>Maybe George, Dave, and John S carry some weight for us then ;) Why, sure! One STAR should be worth half-a-dozen REC's, hummmm ??? --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 391 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/12/93 6:08p Subj: ELIST Refer: 373 Read: NO Private: No -> Is there a reason that Planet_Connect was restricted -> Planet_Connect systems only or was that an error? Check the ELIST The distribution of PLANET_CONNECT isn't restricted at all... When I added PLANET_CONNECT to the ELIST, I listed the distribution as "Any Planet Connect Site". As soon as we get on the Z1 BACKBONE, I'll change the verbage to "Z1 BACKBONE". Until then, chill. PLANET_CONNECT should be on the backbone here shortly.... Getting an echo on the backbone isn't a 5 minute/1 phone call deal. You have to convince the ZEC that's its worthy of backbone distribution - that usually takes several netmail messages which proves a "demand" for the echo. If *you* want to help out in this cause, send DAN BUDA (1:1/200) a polite netmail message requesting that PLANET_CONNECT be added to the backbone, with a copy forwarded to your region coordinator. I'm already doing this, but a few more requests from the users wouldn't hurt. -> so people can find out what is going on and stop posting about Sat -> downlink technology in every other echo in the universe (e.g.-TVRO -> What's everyone else think? I've already done this... Some moderators take exception to advertising *other* echos in *their* echos, so I have to post these "ads" in moderation. Sure, I could splatter up 10 zillion messages advertising this echo, but if I did the moderators may perceive us as imperialistic & threatening - taking away their users... We've got to be graceful in how we promote this thing and I'm doing the best I can. tim moderator Voice: 404-621-9210 FAX : 404-621-9122 Fido : 1:133/515 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 392 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 11/11/93 10:22a Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No THOMAS KINNEN wrote in a message to MIKE LESTER: TK> Is you NEC running a dedicated dish? We are usually only TK> 12-20 hours behind what we would get if polling 5 times a TK> day. The small lag is worth the savings in phone calls. The NEC here has nothing to do with the dish, it is mine. i am furnishing the echos to the locals for free. funny, some are complaining BIG TIME about that too... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Galaxy/Star Systems Satellite Data Services (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 393 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/11/93 5:20p Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well, I do you the *EC structure credit. They've done a wonderful job in the past. I don't know, however, about the dupes, ramming(what's that?) etc that they have to contend with... I was a mail relay for a long time, and I don't think it's any different - just a different set of sysops with higher or lower mail volumes. The process remains the same. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 394 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/11/93 5:22p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ps: your statement was in poor taste. Yup, it was. Sorry if I offended you. I thought it was appropriate at the time. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER BROWN Number: 395 To: MARK STENNETT Date: 11/11/93 1:31a Subj: FEED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Who do I talk to about the specific hardware requirements to receive -> the signal? I would be more than happy to spend as much time as you (or anyone else) need to help you with your hardware requirements. I have installed several dishes, and have considerable knowledge of satellite communications. Roger Brown InterComm (702) 356-0622 Voice 1:213/830 --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff097/x] * Origin: InterComm - 702-359-2666 - (1:213/830) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER BROWN Number: 396 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/11/93 5:41a Subj: C VS. KU VS. LATITUDE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Richard I will try to answer some of your questions. The ability to receive a perfect picture (or data signal) is based on the following. The signal strength of the satellite transponder, Your geographical location as satellites have distinct footprints (Ku-band even more so), signal gain of your dish, and the noise temperature of your LNB (Low Noise Block Amplifier), and the signal threshold of the receiver. In my experience the 2 most important factors in a sucessful installation is having a large enough dish and as low of a noise temperature LNB. When I started installing satellite systems the average noise temp was 115 degrees Kelvin with expensive LNB's rated at 100. Today you can buy reasonably priced LNB with 35 to 45 degree temps for under $200. I also suggest that if in doubt you buy the larger dish unless the installation (or zoning) restricts it's size. In your location an 10 foot dish with a 45 degree LNB should be more than enough, however I would listen to local installers, as they will have direct knowledge of the requirements for your area. A C band dish can use a KU-Band LNB on it. You can buy dual band feed horns to run both C and KU on the same dish. You may have problem with older "mesh" dishes as the perforated holes are too large for KU-Band. Any new dish you buy should have no problem. I have not seen that great of an increase in performance in buying a large C-band dish to run a KU-band system on it. As far as atmospheric conditions go KU-Band has a real problem with attenuation of the signal during rain and snow. Years ago I worked for the local NBC affiliate as an engineer. They were in the process of setting up the program feed via satellite. I saw many studies that were done. NBC wanted to make sure that *ALL* of the affiliates could receive broadcast quality pictures in all weather conditions. NBC did go KU-Band but they used 15 and 20 foot dishes for areas that had little or no rain and 30 foot dishes in rainy areas. My feeling is that unless you receive good local advice to go KU, stay away from it, as you receive quite a bit of rain. FYI I am using a C-Band system for planet connect. Feel free to contact me voice or Net Mail, if you have any other questions. I also suggest purchasing a book called "The Satellite TV Handbook" by Anthony T. Easton. ISBN 0-672-22055-5 It gives all the formulas for caculating system gain if you want to figure your requirements the "smart way". It also gives advice on how to avoid and combat "TI" Roger Brown InterComm (702) 359-2666 BBS (702) 356-0622 Voice (702) 356-0503 Fax 1:213/830 --- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff097/x] * Origin: InterComm - 702-359-2666 - (1:213/830) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 397 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 11/10/93 1:26a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave James wrote in a message to Eddie Rowe: DJ> Eddie Rowe wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) ER> Is this a definitive list of those refusing to allow their ER> FDN to flow? DJ> DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, DJ> with DVNET having the most extensive, of which I am a member DJ> since it's inception... If its on the filebone then it certainly isnt 'private' distribution....... DJ> Considering that CADNET is very specific, and geared towards DJ> folks that can afford to purchase a $3000 dollar software DJ> package, and at least another $20,000 for the hardware, it DJ> has the least impact I'm sure... (IMHO) Those prices are VERY exagerated....in particular the hardware price......I for one have several folks in engineering school that call here who are very disappointed that its not availible..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 398 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/10/93 1:32a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dennis Powers wrote in a message to Tim Helton: ->> I'm getting the same thing from our nodes here, Greg. One nardy *^#%$ ->> even had the gall to suggest that we *GIVE* the mail to the net's DP> But...But...But.... I do _give_ it to my net. TH> Like Greg said, there're folks out there who are scared to death of TH> Planet Connect - It puts their current *control* of the mail TH> distribution in jeopardy. DP> The major argument to the system in my net is the "Eggs in DP> the basket" problem. If my system crashes while I'm away DP> (and who's doesn't [smile]) what does the net do then? It's DP> a valid argument. Hmmmmmm so before PC came along you had 2 or more systems importing the -same- echos for redundancies sake?......IF not then whats the difference? If the importing system goes down then folks wait for it to come back up......Doesnt matter if they were on PC or Ma Bell. As for what they do........They wait......Its a hobby not a business, stuff happens. DP> The current system in Net 141 is 14 people polling, 2 each DP> night, for mail from the stars then distrubuting it across DP> the net for free. My contribution to the effort is the DP> "other" echos not currently being polled for. So far it's DP> working quite well. I only supply a portion of the DP> available echos and most of them are fairly low to moderate DP> traffic. The system may change as others in the area link DP> into PC. Sounds like an awful lot of trouble and config watching for something that simply isnt that important. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 399 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 11/10/93 11:51a Subj: one more thing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ozz Nixon wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> Perhaps you need FASTA20.sys... I does something to prevent ON> I TRIED THAT... It does do something for the ON> computer. Before I could never get Desqview to run on my ON> machine that runs the BBS. I installed that and DV would run ON> for about 20-30 minutes then puke. ON> If you have any *ANY* ideas let me know... All I can offer is what is working perfectly for me try this stuff in your config.sys: SHELL=C:COMMAND.COM /p /e:172 device=fasta20.sys DEVICE=QEMM386.Sys R:1 ON MAPS=6 HANDLES=40 RAM ST:M NW3 I=0400-0FFF (put this on the line above) x=0000-03ff dos=high,umb files=50 BUFFERS=15 fcbs=16,8 stacks=0,0 lastdrive=p --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 400 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 11/10/93 11:55a Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ozz Nixon wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> be processed to build a tic file or a files.bbs ....I already have -> written a utility to take the info from File_id.diz and put it into -> the files.bbs format. ON> Well locally we are testing my RTP.EXE (Tic ON> Processor) that will read tic's and make DIZ's ... and/or ON> include the DIZ over the TIC description. It is currently in ON> Alpha Stages... I also wrote a program to build the .DIZ files and shove then inside the archive... however I didn't like the effect of changing the archive date when the new .DIZ file was added. In order to do it right such a program should set the date of the .DIZ file to the date of the archive and then shove it in with the -k parameter. Too much sugar for a dime... ON> information to the FOSSIL - Excellent for QWK mail doors ON> that shell to PKZIP and the user sits there wondering what ON> is going on! Humm... I have never seen a QWK door that did not tell the user that is was "preparing their download" or something like that. If you set up a ram disk and put pkzip in it and use the ram disk for your default QWK door work area it will prepare their download so fast that the user won't have time to read a message. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 401 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 11/10/93 12:01p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ozz Nixon wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> In theory... and in many areas YES. But in MOST areas the bachelor -> lifestyle has prevailed so long that the compromise of marriage is -> perceived as a threat. ON> Locally we went threw that stage... the ending ON> result is finally starting to unfold in a happy honeymoon... Let me guess... you are going to spend your honeymoon bird watching rather than writing checks to your ma... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 402 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/10/93 12:09p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dave James: > BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) > BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) > BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) > BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) > BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) EM> I wonder what the shareware authors would think of these FDN EM> administrators refusing a major distribution system like PC. EM> I think we should start our own alternatives to these FDN's EM> and blow the old ones out of the bitstream. Perhaps a mose subtle way of phrasing this would result in less violence... EM> Perhaps there EM> are people now receiving PC service that are close to the EM> top of some of these FDN's who could assist in letting EM> shareware authors know that PC exists. They need a phone number to upload their shareware to before this will do any good. Get Boyd to set up a shareware author's service and then we can beat the bushes and sell it. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 403 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/10/93 12:12p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Dave James: DJ> DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, with DVNET DJ> having the most extensive, of which I am a member since it's inception... KJ> Well, can you lobby for us then? There are a LOT of us who KJ> are using DESQview, and with the advent of the new version KJ> supposedly supporting multitasking, it would be great to KJ> have access to the DVnet files!!!! Amen... count me in... The last cd I pressed has so few DV support files I just killed that directory and tossed them into the general DOS utilities. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 404 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/11/93 12:00p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dennis Powers wrote in a message to Ed Marquis: DP> With out all the gory details, there have been legal DP> precedents established in several states concerning the DP> shareware authors right in determining the distribution DP> channels his/her work may take. Several Shareware authors DP> have explicitly stated that they would seek legal redress DP> against the PDN (Janis) if their work was distributed via DP> the satellite system. I simply can't believe this... why would someone who writes shareware want to prohibit me from putting it on my board based on the method used to transfer it? What if they said they were only going to allow their programs to be transferred by MCI and anyone using Sprint or AT&T would be in violation of their "approved" distribution channels? Trying to prohibit satellite transmission vs. phone line transmission is same BS as trying to limit distribution to MCI. This is nothing more than the classical legal argument that a young lawyer named Abraham Lincoln was involved in when the steamboat company wanted to prevent another company from building a bridge across the river. When the case was tried Mr. Lincoln summarized the question clearly and simply... do people who want to cross over the river have the same right as people who want to go up and down the river.... the answer is of course they do. If a shareware author is going to allow me to possess a copy of their work they don't have the right to tell me how I can get it. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 405 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/11/93 9:54a Subj: Missing Children's Gif's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is your system configured for *US* to hatch into the missing children's gif network? We have contacted our local media (6:00 news no less) about publicizing the satellite connection firstly, and secondly the BBS scene and their relationship. The *FIRST* thing they wanted to see was the missing children's gif network. As there has been no traffic for the past month or so, I would like to know if we can generate some traffic. If not through you then I guess I'll have to contact directly the following people. Heidi Search Center BBS FIDO 1:387/622 (210) 659-0235 Russell Coombs FIDO 1:2612/107 or RIME net This has the potential to get (local bbs's at least) in a *DAMN GOOD* light in the local public's eyes. With the rash of "adult" bbs's being raided, this is a VERY positive aspect and can generate press not only for us locally, but all PC sites around the US and Canada. We just have to be able to hatch out our own area's missing children's gif. Whether I can create them and hatch them directly, or send the necessary info to the two names above, I am in the process of finding out. This note is also being forwarded to the above two names. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 406 To: ALL Date: 11/11/93 8:33p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Who has it for freq? What file name? (v.32bis please). See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 407 To: RICK MISCAVISH Date: 11/11/93 8:35p Subj: OS/2 2.1ga Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello, > What I'd like to know is, can you run the planet_connect software > under OS/2 2.1. Apparently not. Especially if you're going to be running something else with it. DV support is coming out real soon, bug them enough to add OS/2 support and it might become a reality very quickly. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 408 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 11/11/93 8:39p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ML> The local NEC says the Planet Connect Echos are running 2 days > behindML> what they were normally used to getting thru the land lines. > can you > Is you NEC running a dedicated dish? We are usually only 12-20 hours We are not 2 days behind either. Usually 12-20 hours, just like you. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 409 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 11/11/93 8:43p Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> the machine running PC gets the query accross its NIC. It seems that > -> the network interface card's interrupts are seriously interfering > I get the same problem using Lantastic and I do have 16 bit cards. > PTCCMAIN is running on my server as it's the only machine with enough > free space. We do need a new version that's compatible with the 16550 > and SERVER. I threw together a 386SX with a mono monitor/card and an 8 bit arcnet card coming in through a 16550. I have no hard drive in the machine, which is a workstation and boots into the server from a floppy. I download to and process on the server's hard drive directly; all PC programs, mail processing, and file processing programs are on the server. Even got the thing running under DV in this setup (only got two megs of ram). What can I say except that it runs? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH WINEKA Number: 410 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/10/93 7:54a Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> .FRB >> .FRC >> Is there any way to remedy this? > This is a new extended charactor set. If your tosser does not handle > the new format you will have to manually extract the ones with > extensions of A to Z. A batch file might also take care of this. By the way, still waiting on my info package. ;-) --- * Origin: The Outer Limits * 5.8 gigs * 614-772-5520 * (1:2220/10.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH WINEKA Number: 411 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/10/93 1:06p Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You mean Windows... from that same fine company that brought us > edline? I haven't had any difficulty in running ptccmain > from a DV window. I found that changing my tics to 1 and 1 > prevented that occasional error when changing windows. I > enabled my fifo with XU ... a program that is included with the > X00 fossil driver (XT port:?:ON) What sort of cpu are you running? --- * Origin: The Outer Limits * 5.8 gigs * 614-772-5520 * (1:2220/10.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 412 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 11/11/93 1:03p Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Hector, -> Hmmm...that's not Netware Lite you're referring to, right? I doubt -> it since you say you have 24 nodes. I'm running netware LITE and I -> think there is a definite difference. What do you think? Yes you are quite correct. NetWare LITE, alike Lantastic are LAN's using the DOS Kernel/operating system to access your (harddrive) data. DOS isn't very well suited for pseudo multitasking and some thruput improvement can be gained by a large amount of disk cache memory. Still all data has to be moved between the disk cache and the first meg of memory only directly accessible by DOS. I know of many systems that ground to a halt with 20 station online. NOVELL is quite different and you can consider it as a very smart harddrive at the end of your coax or twisted pair cable. Its only function is to serve and monitor data and can do it very effectively using all its available memory. NOVELL runs in real mode, thus it addresses its data memory immediatly up to 16MEG if you use an ISA based PC or up to 4GIG? if you use an EISA base PC for a Novell server. NOVELL doesn't use your DOS kernel at all for disk functions, but runs above it. Totally freeing up your DOS system at each station. Sum total, a much and much higher efficiency. I suggest to check the price of say a 5 or 10 station Novell system. You only pay the price once. By the time you reach 5 stations, you'll find out the a 5 station Novell system cost about the same as paying 5 time the cost for each station as under a LAN. I hope I made some sense, Regards, Hans * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines. 299-9900. logical.cuc.ab.ca (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 413 To: KEITH WINEKA Date: 11/12/93 12:30p Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith Wineka wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > You mean Windows... from that same fine company that brought us > edline? I haven't had any difficulty in running ptccmain > from a DV window. I found that changing my tics to 1 and 1 > prevented that occasional error when changing windows. I > enabled my fifo with XU ... a program that is included with the > X00 fossil driver (XT port:?:ON) KW> What sort of cpu are you running? I ran it for about a month on a 40 mhz 386..intel under DV then about a month ago I moved it to my 66 mnz 486 running under DV. If Boyd would only shorten those sessions so I could run it on a ram disc I would be delighted! --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 414 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/11/93 7:34p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Ok. Now heres my polling times for 396/1. At 6:00 am I poll. At BG>5 pm I poll. At 1:30 am I poll. Now all that gets sent to the BG>uplink at 5 am to be sent over the sat at 7:30 am. While it is BG>uploading I am still getting stuff from 396/1 on node 2 which BG>will go up in the following days mail. Some are a day old, some BG>are 12 hours old and some is 6 hours old. Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the 6am poll to John is processed for that days uplink. I'd rather get all of it an hour late, then some of it 24 hours later. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 415 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/11/93 6:40p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dave James: > BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) > BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) > BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) > BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) > BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) EM> I wonder what the shareware authors would think of these FDN EM> administrators refusing a major distribution system like PC. Small note for you.. It's because of the AUTHORS that the admins aren't going to the bird. Good news is, is that PDN is getting restructured (assuming there is no major objection) in such a way that the PDN no longer keeps an open-hatch policy (anyone can hatch into the network). She will be able to control which files get the bird that way, respecting the authors' wishes when they don't want to fly the friendly skies. EM> I think we should start our own alternatives to these FDN's EM> and blow the old ones out of the bitstream. Perhaps there EM> are people now receiving PC service that are close to the EM> top of some of these FDN's who could assist in letting EM> shareware authors know that PC exists. They're WELL aware.. :-) If they weren't, PDN (as well as some others) would have never objected to the bird. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com ... Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 416 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/12/93 5:58p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Terry Blount writes: TB> If a shareware author is going to allow me to possess a copy of their TB>work they don't have the right to tell me how I can get it. Sounds simple to me. We just find out who those authors are and do a DEL on their programs. They want me to pay more for distributing their wares, I'll just refuse the display space. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 417 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/12/93 6:01p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Dennis Powers writes: DP>Several Shareware authors have explicitly stated that they would seek DP>legal redress against the PDN (Janis) if their work was distributed via DP>the satellite system. Please ask Janis who these shareware authors are. And have her advise them that we will no longer be providing them sales space on our system. If I'm not wrong, I think this is what's called 'politics'. :-) DP> 1) Open hatching must be discontinued in order to have tighter DP>control of the distribution channel that the files may take. Open hatching need no more be discontinued then open replies to echomail. All we have to do is set Boyd up with Raid or Allfix. DP> 2) A method of forwarding submissions to the PDN headquarters DP>must be established to allow for central hatching of the files. Not necessary, what they can't see is that PC is nothing more than a sophisticated MaBell.... MaBoyd... Ahem! PaBoyd if you will. Thanks Dennis, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 418 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/12/93 6:11p Subj: PC SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Chris Wiesner writes: CW>Well, I do you the *EC structure credit. They've done a wonderful CW>job in the past. I don't know, however, about the dupes, CW>ramming(what's that?) etc that they have to contend with... Thanks much. We try. :-) "Ramming" is the word used by echomail terriorist when they dump hundreds of bogus messages into an echo. There has been quite a lot of that in the past few months. A few echos have been pulled from the backbone because of it. In this net along I've trapped in excess of 3000 bogus messages dumped on local boards and hubs. Secure operations have become a must. As well as software that "screens" for possible bogus messages. CW>I was a mail relay for a long time, and I don't think it's any CW>different - just a different set of sysops with higher or lower CW>mail volumes. The process remains the same. It's a lot more political today. Yeh we still pump mail, but also filebone stuff and routed netmail... and a lot more of it. To me there is a lot more involved in it then a few years ago. And where it used to be a hobby that people enjoyed, it has now become more of a business where sysops feel they have a right to and demand of echomail and files. If the mail is late, these people can get down right mean! We used to enjoy the hobby for the sake of what we could do with computers and modems, now it's the public interfacing provided by the conferences. And the transport media is becoming more of a public utility. Still there are those of us that enjoy it simply for the sake of being of service to others. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 419 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/12/93 4:48a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > With out all the gory details, there have been legal precedents > established in several states concerning the shareware authors > right in determining the distribution channels his/her work may > take. Several Shareware authors have explicitly stated that they > would seek legal redress against the PDN (Janis) if their work was > distributed via the satellite system. I can't imagine why these shareware authors are concerned about distribution control when the FDN's are all so open to begin with. It would seem more logical to cut off a few hypersensitive shareware authors from distribution than to cut off a large number of potential distribution sites. PC Sites will, if anything increase the distribution possibilities of the various FDN's. It seems to me that wider distribution is "better" for Shareware authors. Do all Shareware authors have a "right" to PDN distribution in these several states? > Please remember that the FDN heads are all volunteer! Remember > that word: "volunteer". They collect, process, distribute, I understand this very well, being an echomail coordinator and distributor myself. > So, when there is a posibility of > legal action being taken, due to the way shareware is distributed, > it is in the FDN head's best interest to be cautious. No argument here! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 420 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/12/93 7:54p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > EM> I think we should start our own alternatives to these FDN's > EM> and blow the old ones out of the bitstream. > Perhaps a mose subtle way of phrasing this would result in less > violence... I didn't mean it literally of course Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 421 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/12/93 7:53p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Interesting input about the shareware authors reluctance and litigation threats about distribution via PC. I guess I'm struggling to understand their (shareware authors) reluctance and what possible reasons they would have to sue over distribution of their software. Can you provide some additional insight into this? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 422 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/12/93 7:06p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DJ> DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, > DJ> with DVNET having the most extensive, of which I am a member > DJ> since it's inception... > > If its on the filebone then it certainly isnt 'private' > distribution....... One of the points that Peter Stern made to me about DVNet is that it's a misconception that DVNet is on the Filebone. It's not (according to him). I was under the impression that if it was in FILEBONE.NA then it was on the filebone, but he assures me not. I dunno. > price......I for one have several folks in engineering school that call > here who are very disappointed that its not availible..... Ditto, myself included among those EE students that were looking forward to it. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 423 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/12/93 7:11p Subj: Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL>Maybe George, Dave, and John S carry some weight for us then ;) > > Why, sure! One STAR should be worth half-a-dozen REC's, hummmm ??? I would think so :) Hey, that's an interesting tagline.... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 424 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/12/93 5:57a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Dave James: KJ> Dave-- DJ> DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, with DVNET DJ> having the most extensive, of which I am a member since it's inception... KJ> Well, can you lobby for us then? There are a LOT of us who KJ> are using DESQview, and with the advent of the new version KJ> supposedly supporting multitasking, it would be great to KJ> have access to the DVnet files!!!! You have access, all you have to do is FREQ them, or logon to the BBS(oh what fun that would be) Peter Stern is whom you would have to convince... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 425 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 11/12/93 5:59a Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ozz Nixon wrote in a message to Ken Jackson: ON> Boyd and I are shocked but I am running the whole ON> inbound into a 286/20 with 4MB Ram and 2MB Cache on an old ON> ST251 (not the -I series). I am running with 8250's and no I wonder how he really feels, seeing as how I do it with a 8088/10mhz on a old 40meg segate mfm setup Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 426 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/12/93 6:06a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Dave James: DJ> Considering that CADNET is very specific, and geared towards DJ> folks that can afford to purchase a $3000 dollar software DJ> package, and at least another $20,000 for the hardware, it DJ> has the least impact I'm sure... (IMHO) GS> Those prices are VERY exagerated....in particular the GS> hardware price......I for one have several folks in GS> engineering school that call here who are very disappointed GS> that its not availible..... How do you figure? autocad is $3,000 (software) and let's see, digitizer pad, oh another $400 for a nice one, now we get to the really nice toys that support it... how about a 20" monitor, thats oh $2500 or so, and then there is the plotter, say $15,000 for a decent one that does blue print sizes... is that close enough to the $20,000 mark yet or should I just keep going? I was referring to the 'real' autocad folks, not the ones that just futs around with it. Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 427 To: ALL Date: 11/12/93 4:35p Subj: Planet Connect Satellite Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No For those of you who are still a bit nervous (who isn't) about "satellite" I wanted to offer some reassurance. Two days ago my satellite receiver went down (faulty power supply). While that is not encouraging, I was very pleased with what happened next. Planet Connect 1)shipped out a new receiver promptly at no cost to me 2)during the two day shipment period (fastest I could get), I was able to poll all the mail packets from Planet Connect. They keep a 7 day supply of mail packets which can be gotten via phone if for some reason you miss several feeds in a row for some reason. Thus no mail was lost at all during the "down time". Nice job Planet Connect! --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 428 To: MIKE LESTER Date: 11/12/93 8:16p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! In a message to Thomas Kinnen <11/11/93> Mike Lester wrote: ML> The NEC here has nothing to do with the dish, it is mine. i am furnishin ML> the echos to the locals for free. funny, some are complaining BIG TIME ML> about that too... That sounds like the story here also. Tom * WCE 1.10/2101 * Ultimate office automation: Networked coffee machines! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 429 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/12/93 6:09p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hmmmmmm so before PC came along you had 2 or more systems importing the -> -same- echos for redundancies sake?......IF not then whats the difference? -> If the importing system goes down then folks wait for it to come back -> up......Doesnt matter if they were on PC or Ma Bell. -> -> As for what they do........They wait......Its a hobby not a business, stuff -> happens. Actually Greg, the correct answer to this one is.... Somebody with access to the necessary control files calls Tennessee and downloads (FREQ's) the packets via Land line, then tosses and distributes them. I found this one out two weeks ago when my satellite went down with a dead modem. Turns out the problem wasn't the hardware, it was the idiot (ME) trying to retune and re-aim the dish. I don't know what I tuned into, but it wasn't G4 or anything remotely similar. NICE signal strength though. 3 days of downloading 6-9Mb at 14,400. Ouch. Now if we can just educate the PC users to give the correct answer to **C's when they ask about or object to Planet Connect. There IS a failsafe, let's teach people what it is. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff075/c] * Origin: The Viking's Cove, Trenton ON (613)394-5919 (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 430 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/12/93 11:01p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Ozz Nixon wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB>-> In theory... and in many areas YES. But in MOST areas the bachelo TB>-> lifestyle has prevailed so long that the compromise of marriage is TB>-> perceived as a threat. TB>ON> Locally we went threw that stage... the ending TB>ON> result is finally starting to unfold in a happy honeymoon... TB> Let me guess... you are going to spend your honeymoon bird TB> watching rather than writing checks to your ma... hehehehe... that's good, Terry. and how goes the shotgun wedding in in your area? --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 431 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/11/93 8:08p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Dennis Powers of 1:141/1135 writes: DP> Reasons for not allowing distribution: DP> With out all the gory details, there have been legal precedents DP> established in several states concerning the shareware authors DP> right in determining the distribution channels his/her work may DP> take. Several Shareware authors have explicitly stated that they DP> would seek legal redress against the PDN (Janis) if their work DP> was distributed via the satellite system. DP> The current distribution channels of the PDN allow for open DP> hatching of all files. Using this type of topology does not DP> allow the FDN coordinator enough control of the hatchings to DP> prevent files (at the authors request) from being distributed via DP> the satellite system. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to post your remarks. On the other hand, it's too bad you left out "the gory datails." I can understand, the PDN coordinator's wish to avoid hastles from litigous shareware authors. What I don't understand is what possible reasonable objections the authors would have to their software being distributed via satellite. This just doesn't make any sense to me and I suspect it is because of my ignorance of some of those gory details. So could you please elaborate on some of these reasons? --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 432 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/12/93 7:58a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Answering a msg posted in area PLANET_CONNECT (Planet Connect). Hello Dennis! 10 Nov 93, Dennis Powers writes to Ed Marquis: DP> Reasons for not allowing distribution: DP> With out all the gory details, there have been legal precedents DP> established in several states concerning the shareware authors right in DP> determining the distribution channels his/her work may take. Which states? When were the cases in court? DP> Several DP> Shareware authors have explicitly stated that they would seek legal DP> redress against the PDN (Janis) if their work was distributed via the DP> satellite system. Which authors? Why do they not want the largest possible potential sites for their software? What about other sites uploading to the PC feed after downloading the file from a PDN site? Something is not right here.. DP> The current distribution channels of the PDN allow for open hatching of DP> all files. Using this type of topology does not allow the FDN coordinator DP> enough control of the hatchings to prevent files (at the authors request) DP> from being distributed via the satellite system. It still does not make sense, given the legal nature of shareware.. DP> 1) Open hatching must be discontinued in order to have tighter control DP> of the distribution channel that the files may take. The open hatching DP> was/is one of the prime concepts of the PDN system. Changes of this type DP> don't come easy. The issue of absolute control has been discussed and the possible authentic reason for moves such as PDN has taken.. DP> 2) A method of forwarding submissions to the PDN headquarters must be DP> established to allow for central hatching of the files. This will DP> entail the coordination of the PDN "hubs" in the US and Europe to enable DP> the files to reliabily reach the PDN headquarters. It would seem to be easy to create AREA-NS (non-satellite) to allow feeding. I can't imagine that the problem is real! I can't imagine an author doesn't want his files getting to as many possible registrants as possible. It simply defies logic. DP> I fully understand you'rs and other's frustration concerning the DP> distribution of FDN's via the satellite system. It would be nice to "get DP> it all" from the sky in order to cut our costs. After all why else did we DP> subscribe to the system? But there are many other variables involved in DP> the distribution of the Shareware files, both legal and monetary. DP> Please remember that the FDN heads are all volunteer! If that is true, then your last sentence "both legal and monetary" makes no sense. DP> great deal of personal time in coordinating an FDN. So, when there is a DP> posibility of legal action being taken, due to the way shareware is DP> distributed, it is in the FDN head's best interest to be cautious. The Or simply not distribute that particular file. I just find it incredulous that it is REALLY an issue.. I note you are careful not to mention any details like specific states where legal action has taken place, specific authors that have a problem with this method of transmission so that someone can research the objections and verify if there is any real threat. DP> time and money it takes to fight even a frivolous suit would close the FDN DP> an wreak havoc with the FDN head's live. We live in a time where DP> litigation is the norm and, when $ are involved, as with shareware, even DP> volunteers who's motives are alrustic are not exempt. But something is not ringing true in your explanation here.. Can you tell us of any author that refuses to have his software transmitted via satellite, and why he would object, and how he considers it different than a phone feed to a bbs where anyone can call in and get it? It just doesn't make any sense. DP> I can assure you that all efforts are being made by the PDN to avail DP> itself of the new technology, I too, as coordinator of the BFDS FDN, am DP> taking a carefull approach to the Satellite feed, as it pertains to DP> file distribution. Time will tell it merits and/or drawbacks and in the DP> end the best method, both legal and logistic, will win out. Somehow this seems like a light side-stepping of answering the questions directly. As a shareware author, I would never consider limiting the methods that my software were sent out to prospective registrees.. That's the whole concept of distribution, ESPECIALLY shareware distribution. Again, I would ask for some specifics, so that we can research the alleged legal pitfalls, and see if it is 1%, 10%, 50% of PDN authors. If 1%-10%, it would seem very easy to correct, and I simply do not believe it could be more than that. Rick --- GoldED 2.40 --- QM v1.00 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-3638 (1:108/90.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 433 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/11/93 9:50a Subj: WHERE ARE YOU???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Chris Wiesner: CW> Ahem.... Incorporated. KJ> Maybe that's Canuck English?????? :-) Eh? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 434 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/11/93 9:53a Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No john burton wrote in a message to Eddie Rowe: jb> If you mail proggie doesn't handle 'em correctly, try jb> POLYXARC... You might want to use a secured directory and do a: SPAZ \\*.* *.pkt This will open up all your archives ready to process packets only. Then the extension to the archive would mean little. You passwording is in the packet or the session and not in the archive. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 435 To: ALL Date: 11/12/93 9:08p Subj: New Node Getting This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All, The Smell Of Bacon II, in Shawnigan Lake, BC (Canada) is now picking up this echo with great interest. I have the information file for Planet Connect but have a lot of questions before I run out and buy a system (which I want to do soon). Can someone explain briefly to me the following: 1. The difference between KU and C...what is better? 2. Advantages/Disadvantages to using a 2foot dish or a 7 foot dish (or something in between) 3. Does the receiver just "plug in" to the back of your modem like a phone line, and can you still use your modem the conventional way to dial out and receive via land line? 4. Once the mail is received, do you still send all outbound traffic through a land line uplink? 5. Is it a reliable? 6. Any known disadvantages? That's it for now...got lots of reading to do in the meantime. Thanks... Glenn NEC Net 340 --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 436 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/13/93 9:53a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Foxy Ferguson wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> Let me guess... you are going to spend your honeymoon bird TB> watching rather than writing checks to your ma... FF> hehehehe... that's good, Terry. and how goes the shotgun FF> wedding in in your area? In this case the bride still has not shown up. ...the groom is no longer waiting. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 437 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/13/93 9:54a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DO> Sounds simple to me. We just find out who those authors are DO> and do a DEL on their programs. They want me to pay more DO> for distributing their wares, I'll just refuse the display DO> space. Someone has convinced a few shareware authors that it is not the quality of their program or how many people get the opportunity to test it that draws registrations but it is the "club" that they belong to. This in turn has resulted in many of them making invalid conclusions about various methods of distribution. I have written over 40 shareware programs and I feel it would be foolish to say that that you could have my program and then try to regulate the vehicle you used to acquire it. I do understand that if you got my program from Radio Shack and gave them $30 you would think you were paying for the program and would disregard any plea for registration. However if Radio Shack gave you my program and 5,000 more for $30 I would understand that they were not selling the shareware. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 438 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 11/13/93 10:27a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick Ashworth wrote in a message to Dennis Powers: RA> As a shareware author, I would RA> never consider limiting the methods that my software were RA> sent out to prospective registrees.. That's the whole RA> concept of distribution, ESPECIALLY shareware distribution. My sentiments exactly. The only restriction I feel is valid is that my work isn't sold by someone else. If a distribution service was charging the end user $30 for my program alone then I would understand that the person would not likely feel compelled to register it. Anyone with a lick of sense would realize that combining several thousand programs for distribution for a modest price is not selling the software itself ...rather it is a trade off for the free advertising. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM DEGNAN Number: 439 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/11/93 8:22a Subj: C vs. Ku vs. latitude Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tuesday November 09 1993, Richard Bash writes to All: RB> There is an element that says it won't work for Ku RB> reception at this latitude. I am hard pressed to accept RB> that argument. Can't speak directly to this. But do your own "informal" study. What's on the roof of gas stations in your city? Are they using 3-footers? RB> conditions (rain, drizzle, fog, snow). What is the RB> truth regarding Ku band frequency susceptibility to RB> such interference? I'm considerably South of you (Austin, TX) and so I'm shooting a higher angle with fewer raindrops in it. But I've only had problems with one very heavy "toad strangler" when the carrier was lost for about a minute. Of course, sometimes I forget to call the airport to ask them to switch runways while I bring in the mail... Seriously, occasionally a low aircraft will get in the way and a file will be errored out and thus not written to disk. I'll pick it up the next time around. No biggie. RB> Thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these RB> questions. Your response will aid in countering incorrect RB> arguments and "smoothing the way." Regards, Bill --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Connect America - Austin, TX - 512 459-3351 (1:382/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WILLIAM DEGNAN Number: 440 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/11/93 8:45a Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tuesday November 09 1993, Ken Jackson writes to Dan Williamson: DW>> What's everyone else think? KJ> Well, I've asked Tim and Boyd, and still haven't heard from either of them KJ> regarding what's going on with PLANET_CONNECT and backbone distribution. I checked the most recent elist. ---------- The International EchoList - Edition 311 as of: 1-Nov-93 Master Report TAG KEY ==================== ======== PLANET_CONNECT PLNCNNT Planet Connect Discussions and Support Planet Connect is a service which provides FidoNet sysops with a means of distributing data via satellites. This echo is devoted to the discussion of issues relating to this revolutionary technology. Origin: 1:133/515 Distribution: Any Planet Connect site Gateways: # Nodes: 100 Volume: 100/Week Flags: Moderators: Tim Helton, 1:133/515@fidonet.org Last changed: 31-Oct-93 by Tim Helton, 1:133/515@fidonet.org -------- I would take this to mean that backbone status has not been requested. There is no listing in fidonet.na or .no nor in fidostat.na. In the last 1200 messages there is no discussion of it in ZEC. But it does seem to be available at at least one of the regional hubs. Is this echo intended to be for P_C sysops only? Prospective customers as well? Anybody else? Regards, Bill --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Connect America - Austin, TX - 512 459-3351 (1:382/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Number: 441 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/12/93 7:52p Subj: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi there, How about a command-line switch for PTCCMAIN to make the status line come up by default? i.e. PTCCMAIN /S will run the program and have the status line showing. Anyone else want this? Ian --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The Parity Error (1:353/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 442 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 11/11/93 1:56p Subj: Satellite Schedule Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty: Sunday October 31 1993 15:41, Patty Pickett wrote to Terry Blount: >> I think the 16550 uart chip is just a buffer. If you PP> Yes, I believe it has an 8k buffer. The buffer is 16 bytes. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 443 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/11/93 2:05p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George: Tuesday November 02 1993 13:04, George Peace wrote to Todd Lyons: GP> Forwarding is something folks seem to like. But it It's essential in a file processor if you are a hub system for files. GP> The allfix group, besides being very money-oriented, are certainly GP> dedicated to their program/cause. Sometimes nearly to the point of GP> violence. I enjoy using software. I even have some favorites. I dare say GP> I'd never consider dying over it. The specs on the allfix and file GP> manager programs look pretty neat. Actual mileage may vary. I find it interesting - read pathetic - that you'd make snide comments about allfix, George, considering that you 1) ignore bug reports made to you about software you write, and 2) Leave your software as beta for YEARS. Harald Harms doesn't give his software away, but he DOES support it and he DOES listen to his users when it comes to bugs AND feature requests. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 444 To: WILLIAM DEGNAN Date: 11/14/93 7:23p Subj: ELIST Refer: 440 Read: NO Private: No -> Is this echo intended to be for P_C sysops only? Prospective customer -> Anybody else? Bill, I'm sorry this is causing you so much grief.... We're working on it. Until then, chill. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 445 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/13/93 8:07p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> TB> If a shareware author is going to allow me to possess a copy of their -> TB>work they don't have the right to tell me how I can get it. -> Sounds simple to me. We just find out who those authors are and do a DEL on -> their programs. Couldn't have stated it better myself. Anyone have a list???? --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff075/c] * Origin: The Viking's Cove, Trenton ON (613)394-5919 (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 446 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/13/93 12:28p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Greg! 10 Nov 93, Greg Shaffer writes to Dennis Powers: DP>> The major argument to the system in my net is the "Eggs in DP>> the basket" problem. If my system crashes while I'm away DP>> (and who's doesn't [smile]) what does the net do then? It's DP>> a valid argument. GS> Hmmmmmm so before PC came along you had 2 or more systems importing the GS> -same- echos for redundancies sake?......IF not then whats the difference? No. Actually there was only 2 "node numbers" that imported mail. And both from different sources. Let me explain how it works for only 1 node number: Each night a different person (1 of 7) would run a batch file that reconfigured his/her system to look like the Mail node number. They would poll the star for mail and when it was received forward the compressed Bundles directly to the Designated distribution node (or just toss depending on their location in the state). After receiving the mail the batch file would reconfigure their system to be their actual node number and continue operation. With this system 7 people shared the cost (which wasn't the main purpose) and if one system went down the person scheduled for the next night would jut pick up a double load. When more people volunteered to import mail we created a second node number and got a connection from a different source for different echos. This gave us 14 people (2 node numbers) of *very* reliable echo mail distribution. It has and does work very well. GS> As for what they do........They wait......Its a hobby not a business, GS> stuff happens. GS> Sounds like an awful lot of trouble and config watching for something that GS> simply isnt that important. Tell that to an "echomail-o-haulic" :-)) -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 447 To: ALL Date: 11/13/93 1:01p Subj: A big change Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is a copy of a message from Janis Kracht to the PDN coordinators concerning the proposed changes in the PDN's policies. I will keep everyone posted as changes occur. -><-Dennis *** Answering a msg posted in area PDNECHO (PDNECHO). 10 Nov 93, Janis Kracht writes to All: JK> Contrary to some folks belief's that I have totally disregarded Planet JK> Connect's Satellite distribution of PDN files, I have been over the last JK> several months been working on this and considering the ramifications if JK> any, this type of distribution might have. JK> I have recently successfully concluded discussions with several authors JK> who have indicated to me in the past that they would take the PDN to court JK> if their files appeared on the Satellite (which is ME and my family, since JK> the PDN is not a corporation). JK> Please don't try to offer your opinion that it is riduculous to believe JK> that I'm in any legal jeopardy from satellite distribution of PDN files. JK> I've contacted enough lawyers to know that this legal jeopardy does exist. JK> Ray Kaliss's SDN resolves the problem of the SDN's (actually Ray's) legal JK> responsibility for distribution of files hatched in the SDN by requiring JK> authors to sign a document allowing the SDN to distribute their files by JK> whatever method the SDN chooses. Ray is able to do this because of the SDN JK> policy of single source hatching (Ray is the only one who can hatch files JK> into the SDN). The PDN policy of Open Hatching prevents me from exercising JK> the same form of legal protection and as such still precludes me from JK> allowing the PDN to be distributed via satellite. JK> In order for the PDN to be distributed via satellite, open hatching would JK> have to end in the PDN. Ending the PDN policy of Open Hatching will allow JK> me to develop the legal protection necessary for satellite distribution of JK> the PDN. JK> I'll develop some sort of backchannel file area that will flow through JK> designated points directly to my system so that all files proposed for JK> release in the PDN will end up here at 272/38 and then I'll process them JK> for release. JK> If there are no serious objections to this change I'll make the revisions JK> to PDN policy, begin the necessary steps to organize the backchannel, and JK> with those steps concluded authorize PDN distribution via satellite. JK> Janis JK> -+- Maximus 2.01wb JK> + Origin: 1:272/38 (914)344-0350 HST 1:272/100 343-7540 HST/V32b JK> (1:272/38) --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 448 To: ALL Date: 11/13/93 2:04p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I knew I would be bombarded with mail from those who found it "incredulous", "hard to believe", simply "could not understand" or thought it "didn't ring true" as to why a shareware author would wish to prevent distribution of his product. The motives appeared to be financial and it is just a fact and one that must be dealt with. As for the legal precedents that have been set for a shareware author's control over distribution, the two states "I" am aware of that have set them, are New York and Connecticut. In both cases the suits did not involve FIDO net technology or the FDN's, but were involved in shareware CDRom and Disk packagers. If you are looking for the details I suggest you retain legal console because I am not an authority (by any means) or qualified to make further comment on the cases. As the BFDS FDN coordinator, I confered with a lawyer concerning the distribution of shareware and, was advised that because of these precedents; "...without a signed authorization, from the [author], waiving any rights to distribution [details of distribution omitted]... you could be subject to litigation, from the [author], seeking recomense for any profits that may result from the distribution of [product] due to the [authors's] inclusion on/in the [product]..." Because I am the "distributor" I could be subject to litagation if, someone to whom I have distributed the files, makes a profit because of the availablity of the author's work. I was also advised that a suit of this type (against me) would fail as long as I did not knowingly "contribute or conspire". Of course it would cost me $200.00 per hour to insure it's failure . These are the facts as I know them. I can not debate the legal arguments (I paid a lawyer to find my exposure), nor will I. I can not name the authors who have prohibited satellite distribution (I don't know them). I can not speak directly FOR the PDN but as a PDN node, I will keep everyone informed of developments as they occur. "Patience" is the word for the day . Thank you for listening -><-Dennis Powers BFDS (Batch File Distribution System) Coordinator --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 449 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/13/93 12:06p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the DO> 6am poll to John is processed for that days uplink. I'd DO> rather get all of it an hour late, then some of it 24 hours DO> later. Excellent idea Dave. If we don't have an always current FIFO style file queue then perhaps get as much as possible that is as current as possible in each file rotation. How about it Boyd .... or are there other constraints to consider? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK HONEYCUTT Number: 450 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/13/93 12:00a Subj: The best equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 10 Nov 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Jack Honeycutt: >> So, if money was no object, what would you recomend? KU-Band or C? BG> A 30 foot C-band dish. No problems after that! ;-) BG> But in all I would go with a C-band. I feel the same. >> What do you think of dishes from Paraclipse, Cosmos, Unimesh and BG> ^^^^^^^^^^^ BG> My opinion, the best. Yea, We want a Paraclips, but can't swing the money so we may have to drop down in quality to a Orbitron S X 10 foot.... Jack --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Garden Pond BBS (503)735-3074 HST V Small (1:105/52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK HONEYCUTT Number: 451 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/13/93 12:03a Subj: C VS. KU VS. LATITUDE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! 10 Nov 93, Chris Wiesner writes to Jack Honeycutt: >> languague I can understand, KU-band wavelengths are so small (4 >> GHz?), they can travel through poorly designed mesh antennas and are >> absorbed by raindrops. C-Band (12 GHz) is bigger and not as easley CW> You got it roughly backwards. KU band is higher frequency, which is CW> inverse in actual size. Yes. See my other post. I did not have enought coffee that morning and when I read what I wrote, I saw the error.... Thanks Jack --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Garden Pond BBS (503)735-3074 HST V Small (1:105/52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK HONEYCUTT Number: 452 To: ROGER BROWN Date: 11/13/93 12:08a Subj: THE BEST EQUIPMENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Roger! 11 Nov 93, Roger Brown writes to Jack Honeycutt: ->> So, if money was no object, what would you recomend? KU-Band or C? RB> It depends on several factors. Ku-Band dishes suffer more from RB> atmospheric conditions (attenuation). If you live in an area that RB> receives a lot of rain or snow you may want to go C-Band. Thanks for all tha good information Roger. I saw your post to Richard Bash and I hope you don't mind if I call you voice sometime. We are trying to decise the Ku vs C-band question and are looking for feedback. Thanks Jack --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Garden Pond BBS (503)735-3074 HST V Small (1:105/52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK HONEYCUTT Number: 453 To: MIKE MCKEE Date: 11/13/93 7:03a Subj: transmission errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! 30 Oct 93, Mike Mckee writes to all: MM> I wanted to put in my two cents worth to all of you that are complaining MM> about getting errors on files, especially on Ku. MM> There is just simply NO reason for it. If you will look at the tag line of people you are talking to, you might see that, unlike you, thay are not setting under a good, strong satellite footprint like you are. Some of us are way out. Pick up any TVRO, or Ku book and read a little. Jack --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Garden Pond BBS (503)735-3074 HST V Small (1:105/52) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HARRY MOYLES Number: 454 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/13/93 8:50p Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry.. Any chance you can write a program which would take the diz's out of the zip files and put the discription into the files.dir for TBBS. Dizman is the best I seen for files.bbs but no one has written one for TBBS.. Hint Hint. Oh you noticed I got it to send to 1:3615/50 ok.. Oh sorry to get you out of the shower..ha ha ha.. Later harry.. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The Evans BBS,4 Nodes,1 Satellite Dish,616-754-6180 (1:2390/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 455 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/13/93 6:52p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: > > BG> Ok. Now heres my polling times for 396/1. At 6:00 am I poll. At > BG>5 pm I poll. At 1:30 am I poll. Now all that gets sent to the > BG>uplink at 5 am to be sent over the sat at 7:30 am. While it is > BG>uploading I am still getting stuff from 396/1 on node 2 which > BG>will go up in the following days mail. Some are a day old, some > > Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the 6am poll to > John is processed for that days uplink. I'd rather get all of it an > hour late, then some of it 24 hours later. WOW! GOOD IDEA!! BOYD! If it's at ALL possible, this would be a MUCHO better solution than anything else that I've seen so far. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 456 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/13/93 6:59p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I can't imagine why these shareware authors are concerned about > distribution control when the FDN's are all so open to begin with. The EXACT reason (as posted in the ZEC echo) is that there are a lot of people that don't like the $10 distribution charge. If Boyd would have charged $30 per node PERIOD, then we could advertise it as a suitable substitution for a $200+ phone line. HOWEVER, with that $10 distribution charge, some claim that it is no longer comparable to a telephone line because MaBell doesn't care whether or not we distribute what we pull in to other nodes. Hell, myself, I think Boyd should have never said $30 per node. Should have put everybody on a flat rate of $40 per month and be done with it. Would have saved him quite a bit of paperwork. FWIW, I think those people bitching about $10 per month need a reality check. > distribution sites. PC Sites will, if anything increase the > distribution > possibilities of the various FDN's. It seems to me that wider > distribution is "better" for Shareware authors. Agreed. But they can't see past the $10 issue to see the benefits they would reap. The best argument I have seen is this (capture from the ZEC echo) I simply can't believe this... why would someone who writes shareware want to prohibit me from putting it on my board based on the method used to transfer it? What if they said they were only going to allow their programs to be transferred by MCI and anyone using Sprint or AT&T would be in violation of their "approved" distribution channels? Trying to prohibit satellite transmission vs. phone line transmission is same BS as trying to limit distribution to MCI. I would think that this is the BEST argument I have ever seen for PC and its file distributions. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 457 To: NICK ASHTON-HART Date: 11/13/93 9:18p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I find it interesting - read pathetic - that you'd make snide > comments about allfix, George, Which comments? This one, which rings true even today: >GP> dedicated to their program/cause. Sometimes nearly to the point of >GP> violence Or this one, which I meant as nothing less than a compliment: >GP> The specs on the allfix and file manager programs look pretty neat. > considering that you 1) ignore bug reports made to > you about software you write, and 2) Leave your software as beta for > YEARS. I continue to be comfortable that raid and areafix are worth every penny you paid for them. Noone ever forced you to use programs like areafix and raid, did they? You should have the freedom to choose the software you love and bash the software you hate. I'm actually pleased that you've found programs you like better and someone willing to take your money. We all come out winners. take care... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 458 To: TIM HELTON Date: 11/14/93 10:39a Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE Read: 11/15/93 4:34p Private: No Tim Helton wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: TH> PLANET_CONNECT should be on the backbone here shortly.... TH> If *you* want to help out in this cause, send DAN BUDA TH> (1:1/200) a polite netmail message requesting that TH> PLANET_CONNECT be added to the backbone, with a copy TH> forwarded to your region coordinator. I'm already doing TH> this, but a few more requests from the users wouldn't hurt. No, actually, send it to your NEC and REC to have them make formal requests to have it added to the backbone... I believe 3 RECs have to request it before it will be accepted... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 459 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/14/93 8:45p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL>One of the points that Peter Stern made to me about DVNet is that it's a TL>misconception that DVNet is on the Filebone. It's not (according to him). I TL>was under the impression that if it was in FILEBONE.NA then it was on the TL>filebone, but he assures me not. I dunno. Look at your FILEBONE.NA and look at the FLAGS field....Only "!" and "." seem to be officially on the FileBone -- I am still trying to figure out if SDN is there or not... Very confusing since FIDONET.NA is JUST what's on the Backbone...Wish Boyd would share exactly what areas we're supposed to be able to get. --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 460 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/14/93 10:49p Subj: Re: Os/2 2.1ga Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > With OS/2 for Windows pricing at $50, a whole lot more persons are going > to > be joining the OS/2 family...Oh Boyd??? 8-) Well i am not sure if the software will work under OS2. One thing I do know is that the "LOCK" will not work. I talked to the company that makes them they said it worked under OS2 2.0 but not under 2.1 and IBM wont tell tehm what they changed so that Aztec could make changes to support the 2.1 version. YOu might want to tell IBM to give them a hand or at least tell them what they changed. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 461 To: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Date: 11/14/93 11:10p Subj: Re: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there, > How about a command-line switch for PTCCMAIN to make the status line > come up by default? i.e. PTCCMAIN /S will run the program and have the > status line showing. Anyone else want this? The next version will have support for the 16550 and also an automatic status. The status line will pop-up after about 5 seconds. This will all be controlled by the INI file. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 462 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/14/93 11:14p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DO> Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the > DO> 6am poll to John is processed for that days uplink. I'd > DO> rather get all of it an hour late, then some of it 24 hours > DO> later. > Excellent idea Dave. If we don't have an always current FIFO style file > queue then perhaps get as much as possible that is as current as possible > in each file rotation. How about it Boyd .... or are there other > constraints to consider? I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 am or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to modem that to the uplink. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 463 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/14/93 10:59p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If a shareware author is going to allow me to possess a copy of > their work they don't have the right to tell me how I can get > it. Very good! I agree wholeheartedly. However, we still need to 'convince' them. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 464 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/14/93 11:06p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > (according to him). I was under the impression that if it was in > FILEBONE.NA then it was on the filebone, but he assures me not. I > dunno. Todd, It seems to me that we should not be using FILEBONE.NA! It has several areas which PC does not yet carry. I think it may be in our best interest to prepare a similar file, call it PC.NA or whatever, which is give a list of current FDN's being served by satellite. I simply cannot fathom their reasoning for being so reluctant, and am beginning to run out of patience with them. (so I'll bite my tongue). Are we not ultimately doing this for them? Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 465 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/14/93 11:16p Subj: IS IT JUST ME? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd. Is it just me...? I had 20 or so .SDN and .SDA files sitting in my inbound without their associated .TIC files. This is second time in about a month. What gives? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 466 To: JACK HONEYCUTT Date: 11/14/93 5:46p Subj: transmission errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 30 Oct 93, Mike Mckee writes to all: MM> I wanted to put in my two cents worth to all of you that are MM> complaining about getting errors on files, especially on Ku. MM> There is just simply NO reason for it. > If you will look at the tag line of people you are talking to, > you might see that, unlike you, thay are not setting under a > good, strong satellite footprint like you are. Yes indeed Jack. I guesstimate that I am about 4000 miles west and 500 miles north of Mike's hometown.....! Add 150 miles further to the west and that is where Dan Williamson lives....! As a matter of fact he lives so far out west that he can see them surfing in Hawaii on a clear day.....! :-) Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 467 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/14/93 1:43p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday November 03 1993, Terry Blount writes to Foxy Ferguson: Hello Terry! TB> Don't feel rained on... I offered to GIVE it to my local net at TB> my subscription cost and they didn't take me up on it... they TB> first have to "study the feasibility." One sysops calculated TB> that the $40 cost divided by the number of conferences came out TB> to 25 cents per conference and since he wanted only 3 TB> conferences he decided he should pay 75 cents a month... they TB> were also afraid that lightening would strike my dish or that TB> satellite technology was so "new" that it wasn't reliable... TB> they are holding out for the new phone system that will deliver TB> data at 64 k a second and save them money ...which is due to TB> become available in our area in about 15 short years. start your own Cost Recovery plan based on a flat rate of 5 bucks for everything..files and messages. work a deal with some friend-sysops to help you move the mail and to hell with your net's pencil necked geeks. If you've ever read Z1-election, it has been ruled by the Z1C that you are at complete liberty to get your mail and distribte that mail from/to anyone you please at whatever rate you please. Leave those morons in the dust with this new techonology. Our net here in Vancouver has grasped it with both hands and the flat rate to each node is now only $2.50 for all message areas and file areas. Can't beat that at all! :) Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Sunday November 14 1993 --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 468 To: BILL WALTON Date: 11/14/93 3:01p Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Friday November 05 1993, Bill Walton writes to All: Hello Bill! BW> There were some bundles came in awhile back BW> ken.1, ken.2 etc BW> what are they ? Boyd was very kind to break up and resend a 2 meg mail bundle cuz it never managed to come in here in one piece. "BOYD...YOU RULE!" Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Sunday November 14 1993 --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 469 To: RA FANS Date: 11/10/93 6:13p Subj: HQ Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello RA! FYI RADIST HQ has requested that they be deleted from the PC system. I am in disussion with HQ 135/71 but she was willing to make all those connected to me for distribution get another connect and I am the one who was feeding the Filebone for Her...O Well seems logic is not a part of these folks process more ego and pride. One question they have yet to answer is WHY??????????? Said wanted control? I said Why send to filebone then..Answer Hmmmmm..... Second question...They should have asked first. Responce Why if anyone can get them without permission from Filebone? Answer Hmmmmm...Just cause. O Well now 35 system are looking for phone connects to RADIST and 2 of then are from overseas..Geezz when will they wake up!!! Bert --- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered * Origin: ----> Default GoldED Origin <---- (1:3648/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 470 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 11/14/93 6:31p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick Ashworth wrote in a message to Dennis Powers: I was holding myself back, but the following was too much.. DP> I fully understand you'rs and other's frustration concerning the DP> distribution of FDN's via the satellite system. It would be nice to "get DP> it all" from the sky in order to cut our costs. After all why else did we DP> subscribe to the system? But there are many other variables involved in DP> the distribution of the Shareware files, both legal and monetary. DP> Please remember that the FDN heads are all volunteer! RA> If that is true, then your last sentence "both legal and RA> monetary" makes no sense. Janis DOES spend a lot of money on this "hobby". She DOES have to see lawyers etc. When you get a notice that somebody is going to take you to court for going against the distribution license, you tend to take them quite seriously. Since Janis does NOT wish to spend large amounts of money defending her hobby over legal bull in court, it was in her best interests to see a lawyer, and find out how far they CAN go. ESPECIALLY since the PDN project is a volunteer effort that as far as I can tell, she's not making money on. Imagine that.. spending money to defend your legal right to pursue your hobby where you help others out for free. Where DON'T you see the "both legal and monetary" issues involved in this volunteer setup? My reply probably would have never been written except for such a negative attack you place on her, whether you realize it or not. Organizations _will_ come around. Until then, at least respect the fact that they're footing the bill to take care of protecting their family to promote free trade of source and programming related utilities, and just don't want to go to court over it. RA> Or simply not distribute that particular file. I just find RA> it incredulous that it is REALLY an issue.. I note you are Follow the PDNECHO. You'll find she is working on reorganizing to where she CAN do this. RA> careful not to mention any details like specific states RA> where legal action has taken place, specific authors that RA> have a problem with this method of transmission so that RA> someone can research the objections and verify if there is RA> any real threat. Screw "real threat". If the author doesn't want to fly the bird, fine, he gets limited distrubition. The way I take your message, if they have a distrubition license that states specific terms, your reply is "*uck em"? RA> But something is not ringing true in your explanation here.. RA> Can you tell us of any author that refuses to have his If you want a real answer to this -- ask Janis directly in PDNECHO or netmail. You're asking people who have third party information. -- Intelligent replies can be posted here; flame via netmail/email. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 471 To: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Date: 11/15/93 4:46a Subj: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ian! Friday November 12 1993 19:52, Ian McLaughlin wrote to Boyd Goodin: IM> Hi there, IM> How about a command-line switch for PTCCMAIN to make the status line IM> come up by default? i.e. PTCCMAIN /S will run the program and have the IM> status line showing. Anyone else want this? I'd second this request. I'd like to see a second "switch" which would blank all but the status lines. Old monochrome monitors tend to get burned in after long exposure to the same screen. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 472 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 11/14/93 7:38p Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Harry Moyles wrote in a message to Terry Blount: HM> Hello Terry.. HM> Any chance you can write a program which would take the HM> diz's out of the zip files and put the discription into the HM> files.dir for TBBS. Dizman is the best I seen for files.bbs HM> but no one has written one for TBBS.. Hint Hint. Oh you I probably already have it written. Post a short sample of the format for TBBS files.bbs and make a few comments on how it handles the extended description lines. If you want to manually do it with a text editor this command will build 90% of it: PKUNZIP * /C *.DIZ >> DIZ Just edit the "diz" file and append it to your files.bbs. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 473 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/15/93 10:12a Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Wiesner wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > If a shareware author is going to allow me to possess a copy of > their work they don't have the right to tell me how I can get > it. CW> Very good! I agree wholeheartedly. However, we still need to CW> 'convince' them. It is my guess that _registrations_ would go a long way in doing that. We all should register the programs we use and as people in positions of influence we should _strongly_ encourage everyone else to do likewise. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 474 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/15/93 10:14a Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Kavanagh wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> Don't feel rained on... I offered to GIVE it to my local net at TB> my subscription cost and they didn't take me up on it... they TB> first have to "study the feasibility." KK> start your own Cost Recovery plan based on a flat rate of 5 KK> bucks for everything..files and messages. work a deal with KK> some friend-sysops to help you move the mail and to hell KK> with your net's pencil necked geeks. It is human nature to avoid pain and seek pleasure... the pain of being labeled as a trouble maker (for converting local sysops to join my net) would be greater for me than the pain of paying the Planet Connect subscription fee all by myself. ...the story continues... the local net lost its feed last week and has been calling all over the country trying to locate and pickup the mail they were normally getting... what an irony... most of it is deleted from my disc daily... and most likely they will end up getting some of their old mail from someone who has picked it up from Planet Connect KK> Our net here in Vancouver has grasped it with both hands and KK> the flat rate to each node is now only $2.50 for all KK> message areas and file areas. Can't beat that at all! :) It would cause these local guys more pain to "ween" themselves from the land lines than the extra $100 they are giving to Ma Bell every month. DON'T ask me why... I haven't a clue. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 475 To: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Date: 11/15/93 7:20a Subj: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How about a command-line switch for PTCCMAIN to make the status line -> come up by default? i.e. PTCCMAIN /S will run the program and have -> the status line showing. Anyone else want this? I'd like it, I even suggested the same thing, But I'd also want the Watch /W command, Beets looking at that Planet Connect Screen . Ralph --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 476 To: ALL Date: 11/15/93 11:52a Subj: Connect problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I need to find out if anyone else is having problems connecting with PC sending mail back. I run the following: Intermail 2.25 USR DS 16,800 (latest chipset) I get the following: 10:37:45 Mail Server ID#: 001 + 10:37:45 Event 0-@ 10:37:45 Using: ROUTE.IM : 10:37:45 #4 to 1:3615/50: on Hold, cost too high/low - 10:37:45 Preparing outbound mail + 10:42:29 Calling Skyboard, 1:3615/50, 1-615-623-8111 = 10:42:59 CONNECT 14400/ARQ/V32/LAPM/V42BIS 10:43:00 Waiting for line to settle down 10:43:00 Attempting to establish mail session 10:43:01 Sending EMSI handshake packet ? 10:43:33 No handshake acknowledgement received ? 10:43:33 EMSI handshake failure (sending) 10:43:33 Terminating call I get this almost all the time.. I have even got PC system sending X modem.. I don't understand why.. I hook up and run with everyone at good speeds but have problmes with PC. --- WM v3.10/91-0178 * Origin: BlueWater BBS Catch the (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 477 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/15/93 6:13p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> start your own Cost Recovery plan based on a flat rate of 5 bucks for -> everything..files and messages. work a deal with some friend-sysops t -> move the mail and to hell with your net's pencil necked geeks. If yo -> read Z1-election, it has been ruled by the Z1C that you are at comple -> to get your mail and distribte that mail from/to anyone you please at -> rate you please. Leave those morons in the dust with this new techon -> net here in Vancouver has grasped it with both hands and the flat rat -> node is now only $2.50 for all message areas and file areas. Can't b -> at all! :) Just blow them out of the H20. If they can't tell a good deal then just smile real big. --- WM v3.10/91-0178 * Origin: BlueWater BBS Catch the (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 478 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 8:12p Subj: Testing 1 2 3 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi! Just a test of my origin lines and etc... How do things look on your end? Thomas --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 479 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 2:03p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The EXACT reason (as posted in the ZEC echo) is that there are a > lot of people that don't like the $10 distribution charge. If > Boyd would have charged $30 per node PERIOD, then we could > advertise it as a suitable substitution for a $200+ phone line. I've seen complaints such as this in a couple of the regional echoes. Some are saying that the $10 surcharge (if you will) makes it appear that PC is charging for the "data" rather than the service. Along with this comes all the discussion about Fido not allowing nodes to profit from echomail. I must say that the people doing the talking have a valid complaint in this regard. If Fido lets one entity charge over and above the cost of transmission, it must allow all distribution systems to do the same if they like. I agree that PC should change the rate to a flat rate regardless of whether the site will be re-distributing or not. That should put to rest the issue of a Fido system making a profit on echomail. It would be very difficult to argue that PC isn't charging strictly for the service (transmission) at that point. To me, it doesn't matter what they do as long as they continue to provide their excellent service. Our net is saving money and there have been ZERO complaints. How can you complain when you have three times the echomail at the same cost. I guess there is always someone out there who'll complain even if you delivered it to them for free. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 480 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 6:09p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday November 14 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Dan Williamson: Hello Boyd! BG> I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 am or even BG> 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to modem that to the uplink. I mind! the stuff gets in here by around 9am-10 am I then gotta get it out the door to the nets distribution hubs so they can process it and move it on to the other hubs..all that, takes the actual delivery of the mail close to dinner; Prime time for bbs callers which means the mail doesnt really get fully delivered till late evening or beyond. The idea is to get the mail through as soon as possible which means as early in the day as possible (in my mind anyways) Peanut gallery Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday November 15 1993 --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 481 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/11/93 11:44p Subj: Canuk English... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris-- >>>> + Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) >> >CW ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >>CW> Ahem.... Incorporated. >> >> Maybe that's Canuck English?????? :-) CW> Watch you tongue, laddy! Look in the dictionary. Maybe you need an english CW> lesson? --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> + Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) I STILL say it must be Canuk English........ Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 482 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/11/93 11:48p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dennis-- CW>> Hmmmm, wonder what she's like in bed...[sheepish grin] DP> ps: your statement was in poor taste. I thought so, too. Glad someone spoke up about it. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 483 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/11/93 11:49p Subj: DVnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd-- TL> I have already talked to Peter Stern and he was very nice and said that TL> access to it would not be relinquished to PC simply because he wants to TL> control it. It doesn't get any simpler or more honest than that. Awwwww, shucks. I figured something like that....... Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 484 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 6:00a Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Who has it for freq? > > What file name? GMD_310.ZIP (182k) HST DS 16k8 from me at 1:380/5. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 485 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 6:07a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I was under the impression that if it was in FILEBONE.NA then it > was on the filebone, but he assures me not. I dunno. Apparently you, and others, have never taken the time to actually *read* the filebone.na header where it explains the various flags and keys in use in that file, Todd. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 486 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/15/93 6:13a Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The allfix group, besides being very money-oriented, are certainly > dedicated to their program/cause. Sometimes nearly to the point of > violence. George, I can't believe the above quote came from *your* keyboard! Your comment is really beneath you. :( --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 487 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 11/15/93 6:15a Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any chance you can write a program which would take the diz's out of the > zip files and put the discription into the files.dir for TBBS. Dizman Harry, admittedly I don't know much about TBBS's file formats, but at the risk of being labelled an extremist you might evaluate Allfix and see if it will perform with TBBS. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM OXFORD Number: 488 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 12:10p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > in each file rotation. How about it Boyd .... or are there other > > constraints to consider? > > I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the > sat at 9 am or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we > still have to modem that to the uplink. > I personally would rather have the hour or two delay and get everything from all systems prior to doing the uplink. I also like the order that you send it down in now, as I told you in another message. I also appreciate the way you have been working to improve the system, and being open to new suggestions. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14 Gig (1:147/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 489 To: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Date: 11/15/93 8:10a Subj: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi there, > How about a command-line switch for PTCCMAIN to make the status line > come up by default? i.e. PTCCMAIN /S will run the program and have the > status line showing. Anyone else want this? I've got a little utility that stuffs two carriage returns in the keyboard buffer that will do this for you. Let me know if you (or anybody else) is interested. I don't have the original archive avail but I can make the program available. Stackey is the name... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 490 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 11/09/93 5:11p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> PDN 272/38 Janis Kracht (Access denied) > BG> Genealogy 18/230 John Grove (Access denied) > BG> dvnet 355/38 Peter Stern (Access denied) > BG> cadnet 116/32 Stan Bimson (Access denied) > BG> ansinet 116/29 KevFraggle (Access denied) I wonder what the shareware authors would think of these FDN administrators refusing a major distribution system like PC. I think we should start our own alternatives to these FDN's and blow the old ones out of the bitstream. Perhaps there are people now receiving PC service that are close to the top of some of these FDN's who could assist in letting shareware authors know that PC exists. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 491 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/09/93 7:46p Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dan-- DW> What's everyone else think? Well, I've asked Tim and Boyd, and still haven't heard from either of them regarding what's going on with PLANET_CONNECT and backbone distribution. Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 492 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 11/09/93 7:47p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudolf-- RR> To your credit, I appreciate the call you made to make things right RR> on Sunday morning. Thank you for taking the time to call to give me the RR> proper codes and to tell me that you were changing the "crippled RR> software" problem to a much better solution. I know how you felt, as I'm sure we *all* felt a little ticked off about it. However, I know that Boyd had a reason for doing it, and he already had a plan in place to correct it. Trouble is, I guess Boyd and Co. are so inundated with the success of PC that they "forget" to clue us all in on what is going on. If they would just let us know about these things in advance, then we all wouldn't be freaking out about it.... RR> I'm sorry I got pissed off, and I apoligize. Thanks for making it RR> right. And I'm glad you apologized. I was quite surprised to see someone go off on him like that, to be honest!!!! Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 493 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/09/93 7:53p Subj: WHERE ARE YOU???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris-- >> + Origin: PLANET SYSTEMS INCORPERATED. NODE-2 (1:3615/50) CW> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CW> Ahem.... Incorporated. Maybe that's Canuck English?????? :-) Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 494 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 11/09/93 7:56p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave-- DJ> DVNET and CADNET both have always been private distribution, with DVNET DJ> having the most extensive, of which I am a member since it's inception... Well, can you lobby for us then? There are a LOT of us who are using DESQview, and with the advent of the new version supposedly supporting multitasking, it would be great to have access to the DVnet files!!!! Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 495 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/09/93 5:30p Subj: SEENBYS. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well basically, since *we* all got your message then you must have > this message area at least setup right. Sure looks that way, huh? Thanks for the feedback. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 496 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/09/93 10:33p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hold off on hexing GSDS(genealogy). Us genealogy sysops are putting > the screws on them, and I think they are realizing the error of > their ways! BTW - they didn't say "access denied", per se. They > decided last February to take a "wait-and-see" attitude for 1 year. > It was brought back up before the vox populi a few days ago, and I > think they are seeing that the moratorium ain't gonna work! I > anticipate that it will be allowed on PC by the end of the month. I had some choice netmails with John Le Duc, the co-ordinator for GSDS (John Grove is co--co-oridinator), and he thought I was trying to intimidate him via netmail. So I moved my requests for information to the genealogy echo. I had a violent response from some dude in FL, but I think I brought him to see the light. Take a look in the gensysop echo, as I'll be stirring the pot there too. I'me really tired of paying LD for files when the dish sits there begging for more action...;-) Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 497 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 11/09/93 10:35p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > PDN is adamant about it, total control is what she wants. Hmmmm, wonder what she's like in bed...[sheepish grin] --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 498 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/09/93 12:28p Subj: one more thing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Perhaps you need FASTA20.sys... I does something to prevent -> double calls that ...with a fast 486 system causes problems. Heck I wish I -> could find those docs... it has helped me -> tremendously because I NEVER have lockups since I installed this prog in my -> config.sys I TRIED THAT... It does do something for the computer. Before I could never get Desqview to run on my machine that runs the BBS. I installed that and DV would run for about 20-30 minutes then puke. I sat down reading ever .TEC file I could find on QEMM & DV to see if maybe there was something else to make things even smoother... but I have not gotten DV to run stable longer than 30 minutes. :( (So I am back to windows)... If you have any *ANY* ideas let me know... I enjoy running windows to show people it can work, but the only flaw is FrontDoor 2.02 <-> 2.20 will not run in multiple windows... they take over the ticks when waiting for a call, and yep - I tried the FORCEDMPI AND FORCEINT28 etc.. (For Frodo)... Ozzman... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: SATELLITE DISH/REGION 18/NODE 201/PCBOARD/WHAT ELSE? (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 499 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/09/93 12:34p Subj: NEW FILE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This can be made so simple... the author is required to place a -> file_id.diz description - with the description THEY want to be used - -> inside the archive and upload it ... no matter what kind of program it -> is... or send it like a file request. The description info can then -> be processed to build a tic file or a files.bbs ....I already have -> written a utility to take the info from File_id.diz and put it into -> the files.bbs format. Well locally we are testing my RTP.EXE (Tic Processor) that will read tic's and make DIZ's ... and/or include the DIZ over the TIC description. It is currently in Alpha Stages... I have even added the theory of "PCUTIL CHECKx" since it has bombed out on me twice in under 30 days, I just incorporated it into my tic'er... I got PKZIP source code and have been working on making RTP self-contained. Plus I am releasing my revision to ZIP (still compat with PK!) that actually outputs the information to the FOSSIL - Excellent for QWK mail doors that shell to PKZIP and the user sits there wondering what is going on! Ozzman... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: SATELLITE DISH/REGION 18/NODE 201/PCBOARD/WHAT ELSE? (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 500 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/09/93 12:36p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> In theory... and in many areas YES. But in MOST areas the bachelor -> lifestyle has prevailed so long that the compromise of marriage is -> perceived as a threat. Locally we went threw that stage... the ending result is finally starting to unfold in a happy honeymoon... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: SATELLITE DISH/REGION 18/NODE 201/PCBOARD/WHAT ELSE? (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 501 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/09/93 12:47p Subj: 16550 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Ok. So what version are you running as "current"? the 1009 one? Or have you -> received a later dated version? The one that is coming my way daily is still -> the 1009 one. Boyd keeps saying "in a few days". Well, when is that????? There is a áeta version we are playing with... I personally have not had a problem since the release of 1009, which was compiled with a few smaller libraries, and quicker code. Boyd and I are shocked but I am running the whole inbound into a 286/20 with 4MB Ram and 2MB Cache on an old ST251 (not the -I series). I am running with 8250's and no fossil installed... and this machine also doubles as a CD Rom Server. All 8 slots are in use, and Novell Lite 1.1 running in Server Mode only (no client.exe needed, but loaded just for testing). And the system has not gotten a "T" block since I configured it this way... I installed the PCFIFO?.ZIP into the system, and played with it... nothing better, nor nothing worse... so I went back to 1009 (2 days ago) I ran the Beta for over a week. The only problem I was having (but has faded away) is the 286 locks up about once every 28-34 hours. I personally think it is in the code, but have to prove it (grin). Boyd and I added a lil' SHOWDATA.COM file to the batchfile on the 286 and so far with it in line the system has not locked up again. Thus it kinda proves a point, another software program loads into RAM and correctly flushes it when it has finished. But, I will keep testing a searching. The problem has been around since 1008 was out... Ozzman... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: SATELLITE DISH/REGION 18/NODE 201/PCBOARD/WHAT ELSE? (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 502 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/09/93 4:50a Subj: Mail Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There were mail bundles on Saturday with extensions which do not conform > to Fidonet ARCmail naming conventions: > .FRB > .FRC Those are perfectly valid extensions, Eddie... MO0 thru Z work.... If you mail proggie doesn't handle 'em correctly, try POLYXARC... --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 503 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 11/14/93 4:52p Subj: New Node Getting This Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to All: [Personal Opinion Mode On] GV> 1. The difference between KU and C...what is better? C Band. Ku is a higher wavelength = more power = tighter beam with smaller dish needs. Aiming may be more critical than a big old C Antenna. GV> 2. Advantages/Disadvantages to using a 2foot dish or a 7 GV> foot dish (or something in between) The bigger the dish .... the greater the resolution of the signal. Use of a high quality LNB will also increase signal quality. GV> 3. Does the receiver just "plug in" to the back of your GV> modem like a phone line, and can you still use your modem GV> the conventional way to dial out and receive via land line? The 'modem' is a special receiver that operates from the satellite signal and outputs to a standard serial port output. You can't use it for other purposes that I know of. GV> 4. Once the mail is received, do you still send all GV> outbound traffic through a land line uplink? Yes. Retaining topology is necessary at this time as there is no alternate to star routing at this moment that won't give us grief in these early stages of the programme. GV> 5. Is it a reliable? Totally .... so far. The odd hiccup has been quickly corrected by Boyd and P_C as far as I've seen. There were quite a few glitches and surprises in the beta test period but they smoothed out rapidly. GV> 6. Any known disadvantages? Yes ... Cost ....if you have little use for more than a couple of backbone echos and a file or two. The fee is very reasonable for a big feed of backbone and filebone wares but not for just the odd item from the satellite flow. In some cases the less expensive Skylink package may better suit the needs of a single site in the middle of nowhere. The skylink might offer enough of a supplement to a local feed. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 504 To: IAN MCLAUGHLIN Date: 11/14/93 5:08p Subj: Suggestion... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ian McLaughlin wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: Hi there Ian, Actually I'd prefer a switch of /NS which would change the default of 'Show Status' to 'No Status Shown'. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 505 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/15/93 12:42p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW>It seems to me that we should not be using FILEBONE.NA! It has several areas CW>which PC does not yet carry. I think it may be in our best interest to prepar CW>a similar file, call it PC.NA or whatever, which is give a list of current Agreed, but that being said...FIDONET.NA is now being maintained by someone new -- you'll like the changes that appeared in this week's file! --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 506 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 9:14p Subj: Sds Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are the SDS file echos now being carried by Planet Connect? Per the FileBone.Na I don't believe they are officially carried by the FileBone, but I did receive a file in the SDSRBBS area. The SDS system has been plagued by black holes in my experience -- I know many would welcome a reliable link! Can I pop open the bubbly? 8-) --- RBBSMail/386 v0.91 * Origin: NoSnail/RBBSMail Help (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 507 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 11:10p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> DO> Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the >> DO> 6am poll to John is processed for that days uplink. I'd >> in each file rotation. How about it Boyd .... or are there other >> constraints to consider? > I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 > am or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to > modem that to the uplink. I don't mind....! Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 508 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/16/93 8:21a Subj: Delayed mail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > DO> Why not delay another hour or so on the uplink so that the > > DO> 6am poll to John is processed for that days uplink. I'd > > I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 am or > even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to modem that to the > uplink. Not a problem. anybody who's doing this stuff part time would simply have to adjust their schedules, but it wouldn't be a big problem for them. I would enjoy it! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 509 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/16/93 8:23a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Very confusing since FIDONET.NA is JUST what's on the Backbone...Wish > Boyd > would share exactly what areas we're supposed to be able to get. Go look in your satellite inbound area for this: L:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO\FILEAREA.CUR See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 510 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/16/93 8:24a Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It seems to me that we should not be using FILEBONE.NA! It has several Right. > areas which PC does not yet carry. I think it may be in our best > interest to prepare a similar file, call it PC.NA or whatever, which is Try looking in your satellite inbound area for this: L:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO\FILEAREA.CUR Boyd sends it out very regular... Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 511 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/16/93 8:26a Subj: IS IT JUST ME? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is it just me...? I had 20 or so .SDN and .SDA files sitting in my > inbound without their associated .TIC files. This is second time in > about a month. What gives? I haven't had that happen to me yet. sorry. Good luck figuring it out! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 512 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/16/93 8:29a Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BW> ken.1, ken.2 etc > > Boyd was very kind to break up and resend a 2 meg mail bundle > cuz it never managed to come in here in one piece. He might get the same requests for the 2 megs bundle *.suc that came in yesterday. I had to page down TWICE while viewing the logs to get to the end of the packet list in that bundle :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 513 To: ALL Date: 11/09/93 11:50p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Test message... please acknowledge receipt. Thanks! --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: THE PROMISED LAND, Marshfield WI, U.S.A. 10GB/32 lines (1:238/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 514 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/14/93 9:42a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd: Wednesday November 10 1993 20:50, Todd Lyons wrote to Ken Jackson: TL> I have already talked to Peter Stern and he was very nice and said that TL> access to it would not be relinquished to PC simply because he wants to TL> control it. It doesn't get any simpler or more honest than that. Then the members of DVNET ought to sack him. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALLAS HINTON Number: 515 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/15/93 9:35p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ken -- on Nov 15 1993 at 18:09, you wrote: KK> I mind! the stuff gets in here by around 9am-10 am I then [...] KK> that, takes the actual delivery of the mail close to dinner; Yup -- from my perspective, PC delivery has moved my echomail some 12 hours later :-( The flow is from you to 153/752 to 153/2 to me -- it's usually 10 - 11 PM (!) before I see it, compared to sometime between 6 and 9 AM before we switched. I'm not a totally happy camper. :-) Cheers ... Dallas --- timEd-A10b * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver BC, CANADA [604-266-7754] (1:153/715) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 516 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 5:10p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Ed Marquis: TL> Hell, myself, I think Boyd should have never said $30 per TL> node. Should have put everybody on a flat rate of $40 per TL> month and be done with it. Would have saved him quite a bit TL> of paperwork. Perhaps ...but my suspicions tell me that it would have the various sysops is different areas ganging up and plotting to find a way to use one subscription. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 517 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 5:22p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: BG> I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at BG> 9 am or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have BG> to modem that to the uplink. You convinced me... I'll just sleep later... . BTW... I'm having a tough time getting a connection to upload my mail... can you add another phone line and set up the busy call forwarding feature? This costs only $1 a month in most areas. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 518 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/16/93 5:40p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Kavanagh wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 am or even BG> 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to modem that to the uplink. KK> I mind! the stuff gets in here by around 9am-10 am I then KK> gotta get it out the door to the nets distribution hubs so KK> they can process it and move it on to the other hubs..all KK> that, takes the actual delivery of the mail close to dinner; KK> Prime time for bbs callers which means the mail doesnt KK> really get fully delivered till late evening or beyond. The KK> idea is to get the mail through as soon as possible which KK> means as early in the day as possible (in my mind anyways) But why push so hard to deliver day old mail? If you waited 2 hrs you would have the NEXT day's mail. Heck... you may even start to get the messages BERORE they are written! --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 519 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/16/93 2:20p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! 13 Nov 93, Terry Blount writes to Rick Ashworth: TB> compelled to register it. Anyone with a lick of sense would TB> realize that combining several thousand programs for TB> distribution for a modest price is not selling the software TB> itself ...rather it is a trade off for the free advertising. It's certainly no different than on CD-ROM, or on Compu$erve, or even your local $25 per year pay-bbs-PDN site.. Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 520 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/16/93 2:22p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jason! 14 Nov 93, Jason Fesler writes to Rick Ashworth: JF> Janis DOES spend a lot of money on this "hobby". She DOES have to see JF> lawyers etc. When you get a notice that somebody is going to take you to JF> court for going against the distribution license, you tend to take them JF> quite seriously. And refuse to distribute their software. JF> Since Janis does NOT wish to spend large amounts of money defending her JF> hobby over legal bull in court, it was in her best interests to see a JF> lawyer, and find out how far they CAN go. ESPECIALLY since the PDN JF> project is a volunteer effort that as far as I can tell, she's not making JF> money on. I guess.. How many lawyers have you seen to insure that you have followed all legal regulations regarding your own bbs? JF> Imagine that.. spending money to defend your legal right to pursue your JF> hobby where you help others out for free. Where DON'T you see the "both JF> legal and monetary" issues involved in this volunteer setup? Because all we are hearing is Ross Perot type "they's" and "them's" with no specifics to substantiate the point. JF> My reply probably would have never been written except for such a negative JF> attack you place on her, whether you realize it or not. No biggie, I've been razzed before! JF> Organizations JF> _will_ come around. Until then, at least respect the fact that they're JF> footing the bill to take care of protecting their family to promote free JF> trade of source and programming related utilities, and just don't want to JF> go to court over it. It's evidently not free, if the alleged authors are placing all these alleges restrictions on the distribution. JF> Screw "real threat". If the author doesn't want to fly the bird, fine, he JF> gets limited distrubition. The way I take your message, if they have a JF> distrubition license that states specific terms, your reply is "*uck em"? Absolutely. Don't carry their files on PDN, don't carry them on bbs's.. What the heck good does it do for an author to write shareware, then prevent it's distribution? It still makes no sense. Do you know of any distibution license that prohibits satellite transmission? JF> If you want a real answer to this -- ask Janis directly in PDNECHO or JF> netmail. You're asking people who have third party information. Those are the ones that are replying in this echo, however.. Rick --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 521 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/16/93 5:43p Subj: Pc Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> ...the story continues... the local net lost its feed last week TB> and has been calling all over the country trying to locate and TB> pickup the mail they were normally getting... what an irony... TB> most of it is deleted from my disc daily... and most likely they TB> will end up getting some of their old mail from someone who has TB> picked it up from Planet Connect Yep. TB> It would cause these local guys more pain to "ween" themselves TB> from the land lines than the extra $100 they are giving to Ma TB> Bell every month. DON'T ask me why... I haven't a clue. I dunno either, Terry. One of the members of our net's CRP is about to add a coupla more modems to his system so he can connect landline to one of the STARS (George) to pick up the mail. This sysop is the one who was gonna be our net's PC site, the dish was initially installed there. Between microwave "cross-talk" and some major system problems, half the net worked on trying to get it going at his site for 'bout 5 weeks and finally gave up and moved it to another site, which is in range of the airport radar, but still does better than the 1st site. He's talking 'bout the reliability angle now... I fail to understand how a long-distance call to a PC site (George) is more reliable than a LOCAL call to a PC site (me or t'other one). Oh, well..... --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 522 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 10:40a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FWIW, I think those people bitching about $10 per month need a reality -> check. It would probably bounce....... --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff075/c] * Origin: The Viking's Cove, Trenton ON (613)394-5919 (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 523 To: TONY HONAKER Date: 11/16/93 8:42a Subj: Connect problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I need to find out if anyone else is having problems connecting > with PC sending mail back. I run the following: > 10:43:00 Attempting to establish mail session > 10:43:01 Sending EMSI handshake packet ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ? 10:43:33 No handshake acknowledgement received > ? 10:43:33 EMSI handshake failure (sending) > 10:43:33 Terminating call Hi Tony: Turn off your EMSI handshake and give 'er a try. Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 524 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/15/93 7:02p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Terry Blount writes: TB>Someone has convinced a few shareware authors that it is not the quality TB>of their program or how many people get the opportunity to test it that TB> draws registrations but it is the "club" that they belong to. Hmmmm... me thinks I'm in the wrong club then. TB> I have written over 40 shareware programs and I feel it would be foolish TB>to say that that you could have my program and then try to regulate the TB>vehicle you used to acquire it. I can understand an author wanting a say over the method of distribution. What I can't understand is why they would have a problem with PC when the existing filebone is basically open distribution and MaBell is making big bucks as a result. What we're doing here is redirecting those funds to a smaller operation that has a different technology. Kinda like saying it's ok to use US Mail, but not ok to ship Fed Ex. Maybe the solution is separate PDN links, once for whomever and one for the "Club". later D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 525 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/15/93 7:57p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG>I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 am BG>or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to modem BG>that to the uplink. A couple of items to fuel the discussion, then I'm sure everyone else will have opinions as well. First, it is not all that seldom that I get up in the morning to find the whole mess belly up with all 4 port in the air. When you uplink at 0730EST, that's 0630CST (my time) and 0430PST. Having the first uplink a little later would make the hours more reasonable. Secondly, my present connect schedule to the REC essentially begins at 0730am and processes throughout the day. It's a local call to the REC (not unlike the downlink :-) so I don't tie up low cost hours for everyone else. Anyway, after processing the morning run, it's delivered during monring hours. Hours that are classically low user level for BBSs. Thus the mail is ready when everyone gets home that evening. In short, an uplink at 10am EST would still allow downlink, processing and delivery before the evening BBS rush hour even for the east coast. Well, that's my perspective. The worst hit would be the eastern time zone. What do you guys say? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 526 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/16/93 4:28p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes: JF> Janis DOES spend a lot of money on this "hobby". She DOES have JF> to see lawyers etc. When you get a notice that somebody is JF> going to take you to court for going against the JF> distribution license, you tend to take them quite seriously. JF> JF> Since Janis does NOT wish to spend large amounts of money JF> defending her hobby over legal bull in court, it was in her JF> best interests to see a lawyer, and find out how far they JF> CAN go. ESPECIALLY since the PDN project is a volunteer JF> effort that as far as I can tell, she's not making money on. JF> All Janice has to do is tell us who the litigous jerks are and we'll all be glad to remove their shareware from our BBSes! JF> Screw "real threat". If the author doesn't want to fly the bird, JF> fine, he gets limited distrubition. The way I take your JF> message, if they have a distrubition license that states JF> specific terms, your reply is "*uck em"? That would be my reply too. After all beggars can't be choosers! It's unrealistic for them to expect us all to view each and every file that comes through our systems. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 527 To: ALL Date: 11/16/93 11:11p Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey, here's the first Planet Connect site in Bermuda online. Someone (not everyone) please let me know if they receive this ok. Just got the dish up over the weekend, and am editing files now adding areas. The file areas were not too bad, but all those message areas - yikes! Anyone know of a shortcut for adding message areas to Maximus and Squish? -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 528 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/16/93 5:07a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > FWIW, I think those people bitching about $10 per month need a reality > check. Agreed, Todd. :sigh: --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 529 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/16/93 7:32a Subj: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I don't know what's going on, but I've received several dupes in various echoes over the past few days including many in the Doorware echo just this AM. All of the messages that I've seen are nearly 2 weeks old and 3615/50 & 51 are listed twice in the path lines. The following message from Doorware is an example: (90) Tue 9 Nov 93 4:52 Rcvd: Tue 16 Nov 5:40 By: Bill Freads To: Patty Pickett Re: Re: Door Files! St: Kill Rcvd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Thanks Patty, Jim send them to me on HIS dime, much >> appreciated though. > Wow, that was nice of him. :) Yes, I'll say, I was as surprised as can be, fater all, it was not required, must be I'm living right for a change? Bill --- DB 1.54/001196 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 530 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/16/93 9:56p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Screw "real threat". If the author doesn't want to fly the bird, > fine, he gets limited distrubition. The way I take your message, if they > have a Perhaps it's time to be a bit unreasonable in response to some of these more litigous threatening individuals by removing their files from the distribution channel entirely or at the very least from bbs's in general. Possibly with a little pressure in return, these authors will re-evaluate such a silly position. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 531 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/16/93 10:04p Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I probably already have it written. Post a short sample of the > format for TBBS files.bbs and make a few comments on how it > handles the extended description lines. TBBS style psuedo directories... fullpathname.ext displayname.ext 'owner' 40 char description !>extended description lines !>can go on like this the fullpathname.ext can be just the DOS filename if the psuedo directory is in the same dir as the file. The display name can be most anything but is usually the actual file name. The optional 'owner' is the name of the person (or program such as tic) that 'uploaded' the file. The description lines are limited to 40 char's and can be extended by the !>preceeding each subsequent name. TBBS will optionally display the file date and size with a file directory display command switch. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUONG Number: 532 To: ALL Date: 11/13/93 10:30p Subj: P/C Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All. Read all the information in this echo, and have a few questions left: 1. Can I use a dish that was not purchased from Plannet Connect? 2. How would I do it? 3. How much for a dish from Plannet Connect? 4. Need the dish be aimed at a certain area 24 hours a day? 5. What network(s) are available? 6. How large is the flow daily? 7. Is their a FAQ [Frequently Asked Questions] file for Plannet Connect? Thanks John --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 533 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/15/93 6:43a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd: Friday November 12 1993 19:06, Todd Lyons wrote to Greg Shaffer: TL> One of the points that Peter Stern made to me about DVNet is that it's a TL> misconception that DVNet is on the Filebone. It's not (according to TL> him). I was under the impression that if it was in FILEBONE.NA then it TL> was on the filebone, but he assures me not. I dunno. There are many areas listed in the FILEBONE.NA which are not actually ON the filebone, but which many hilebone hubs carry. Look at the flags next to the area and you'll quickly be able to tell what's on the filebone and what isn't. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 534 To: TIM HELTON Date: 11/16/93 9:49a Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE Read: 11/18/93 3:21p Private: No You need to post a message in the ZEC echo, addressed to 'Backbone' with your ELIST entry or confirmation and distribution information showing 25 nodes connected and 25 messages a week. None of that should create any problem. Dan Buda will add it to the next fidostat.na. Then two or three RECs need to say they want it (they usually do this in a public message in the ZEC echo). A summary of the procedure can be found in any edition of fidostat.na (it comes out weekly and should be available from your NEC). Lisa Gronke (aka Ruby Tuesday) Usually found at 1:105/6 --- QM v1.30 * Origin: Jobs_BBS, PDX OR USA +1(503)281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 535 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 11/17/93 5:41p Subj: Connect problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I need to find out if anyone else is having problems connecting -> > with PC sending mail back. I run the following: -> > 10:43:00 Attempting to establish -> > 10:43:01 Sending EMSI handshake packet -> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -> > ? 10:43:33 No handshake acknowledgement received -> > ? 10:43:33 EMSI handshake failure (sending) -> > 10:43:33 Terminating call -> Hi Tony: -> Turn off your EMSI handshake and give 'er a try. Well see if I can... Intermail supports say I can't do it.. Just seems funny that I can hookup with every DB but that one... --- WM v3.10/91-0178 * Origin: BlueWater BBS Catch the (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 536 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/17/93 11:45a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DO> Kinda like saying it's ok to use US Mail, but not ok to ship DO> Fed Ex. Exactly my point. However it appears that someone has convinced some shareware authors that no one using Fedx will register and everyone using the US Mail will. Must be the US Mail... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 537 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/17/93 11:48a Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TM> fullpathname.ext displayname.ext 'owner' 40 char description !>extended description lines !>can go on like this Humm... I'm confused... If the fullpath name must be included before EVERY file name that is opening a big can of worms. Why would so much redundant info be necessary when it could be included only once in some kind of control file? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 538 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/17/93 9:10p Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to All: CC> Just got the dish up over the weekend, and am editing files CC> now adding areas. The file areas were not too bad, but all CC> those message areas - yikes! Anyone know of a shortcut for CC> adding message areas to Maximus and Squish? W A N T E D written by Terry Blount 1:3625/441 Freq the magic file name "Wanted" This program can be freely distributed provide it is not modified. Purpose: Since the advent of the Satellite (Planet Connect) distribution of the Fidonet backbone, many of you may start pulling in the entire feed and then find it a lot of work to configure Maximus to carry hundred's of conferences and keep your message base configuration for Maximus consistent with the Squish.cfg. Many of you already may be carrying hundreds of conferences and some of you may want a simple way to manage both your Squish.cfg and MsgArea.ctl so that they both reflect any modification in the message areas you want to pick up or exclude. I have written a utility to update or setup Squish.cfg and MsgArea.ctl to reflect the areas that are listed in a text file. Ie. "Fidonet.na" From now on I only have to edit the listing and add or take out any conferences that I wish to change... then I run this utility "Wanted" and it rebuilds those control files. There are 2 rules you must follow to use this utility: 1. The name of you text file that lists the echo areas must be "Echo.lst" and the description of the conferences must begin on column #21. 2. You must have a copy of Squish.cfg named "Squish" and all lines that begin with "EchoArea" must be removed. When Wanted runs it will copy your info from "Squish" then append the EchoArea lines to the Squish.cfg it builds from your Echo.lst ascii text file. MsgArea.ctl will have a netmail conference setup with ASSTsysop security level. MsgArea.ctl will use the descriptions for the file areas that are found starting on column #21 of Fidonet.na and it will be setup to support BlueWave for maximus. You will need to answer the following questions when Wanted runs: Please enter YOUR Fidonet node number. Please enter the Fidonet node number for your HUB. Please enter the PATH to your MESSAGE directory. Please enter the PATH to your NET MAIL directory. Please enter the maximum NUMBER of messages you want to keep in each area. Please enter the number of DAYS of mail you want to keep in each area. Notes from MsgArea.ctl WARNING! If you happen to "renumber" the area numbers within this file (such as by changing message area 2 to area 1, and then changing area 3 to area 2, and so on), make sure to delete \MAX\MTAG.BBS and \MAX\OLR\DATS\*.*. This is only a concern when changing the name/number of every area; those two files contain information about tagged message areas and the QWK area pointers. If you change many area numbers without deleting these files, uploaded QWK messages and message tagging information may be incorrect. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 539 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/17/93 4:35p Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hey, here's the first Planet Connect site in Bermuda online. > Someone (not everyone) please let me know if they receive this Receiving loud and clear on Vancouver Island (West Coast of Canada) > Just got the dish up over the weekend, and am editing files now > adding areas. The file areas were not too bad, but all those > message areas - yikes! Anyone know of a shortcut for adding > message areas to Maximus and Squish? Sure......get SuperBBS and FMail or Gecho and use the HMB. Regards....Murray --- GEcho386-101+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 540 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/17/93 10:45p Subj: WHERE ARE YOU???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ken, If I had my druthers, I'd prefer to see the data coming down from the bird starting at around 02:00am EST so that it could be processed before the business day starts. Right now, I don't get everything in till around 10-10:30, and then my system takes about an hour to 1.5 hours to process everything during prime time. I've considered just sitting on it till after 01:00am the next morning and processing it then, but it would be two days late already. This too is an unacceptable solution. I'm puzzled by your remarks. Your province is three time zones behind us. So your downlink starts at about 04:30 PST daily. Isn't that ideal for you? You could have everything down, processed and out by 09:00am daily. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 541 To: RIC WALSH Date: 11/17/93 10:59p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'd like to see a second "switch" which would blank all but the > status lines. > Old monochrome monitors tend to get burned in after long exposure to > the same screen. I use a screen blanker set to 5 minutes. However, when I press a key to restore the screen, the current file gets an error. Somehow I think the main prg is too sensitive to the keyboard. .. wish something could be done about that... Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 542 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 11/17/93 5:38p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Murray! Monday November 15 1993, Murray Pletsch writes to Boyd Goodin: >> I can do it if you dont mind the files going over the sat at 9 >> am or even 10 am instead of 7:30. Remember we still have to >> modem that to the uplink. MP> I don't mind....! I would not care to have that, let's see, Currently we have 7:00 am, Days Feed down from the Satellite 10:00 am, Feed is ready to Process 11:30 am, Mail arrives at the Top Hubs 1:00 pm, Mail begins to flow from the Hubs to Nodes by 5pm Most nodes have their daily mail Add 3 hours to this, 10:00am Feed start time rather than 7:00am and you get to begin sending the days mail to nodea around 4 or 5pm, all these nodes re guess what, busy with BBS users... School is out, and mail connects with Other Hubs/Nodes are impossible Having the feed of the day begin at 7:00 am and end at 10:00 pm is difficult enough for distribution, delaying it later will put it on my system a bit earlier, but the other hubs/nodes will not see any improvement, most will likely see an additional 12 hour delay in receiving up to date mail. My Opinion, others are entitles to their own :) Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 543 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/17/93 5:28p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Monday November 15 1993, Terry Blount writes to Todd Lyons: TL>> node. Should have put everybody on a flat rate of $40 per TB> Perhaps ...but my suspicions tell me that it would have the TB> various sysops is different areas ganging up and plotting to find TB> a way to use one subscription. ...and..., not sure what you mean here, as that is already happening if the PCDownSite pays $40.00/mo to PC, and is what the additional $10.00 gives him. Cheers, Ervin ... Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 544 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/17/93 5:31p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Tuesday November 16 1993, Terry Blount writes to Ken Kavanagh: KK>> that, takes the actual delivery of the mail close to dinner; KK>> Prime time for bbs callers which means the mail doesnt KK>> really get fully delivered till late evening or beyond. The TB> But why push so hard to deliver day old mail? If you waited 2 hrs you TB> would have the NEXT day's mail. Heck... you may even start to get the TB> messages BERORE they are written! Adding another 2 - 3 hours would definetly push it into prime BBS/impossible BBS connect time. Why push so hard to have fresher mail that simply sits around on the hub system(s) till 1 or 2am the "next" morning..... Seems more futile to me :( Cheers, Ervin ... There's no future in time travel. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID BLUM Number: 545 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 11/17/93 8:13p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: > Who has it for freq? > > What file name? PP> GMD_310.ZIP (182k) HST DS 16k8 from me at 1:380/5. PP> --)@ Patty @(-- I got the file from you and it works great, but how do I keep it from sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure that he has better things to do than read those messages, right Boyd.. Good Bye & Good Luck, Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: The Swiss Bull BBS, Monroe, WI (1:11/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD BROWN Number: 546 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/16/93 9:27a Subj: Os/2 2.1ga Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CIS: 72027,2432 Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org IBM LINK @ DEV0580 BG> > With OS/2 for Windows pricing at $50, a whole lot more persons are going BG> > to BG> > be joining the OS/2 family...Oh Boyd??? 8-) BG> BG> Well i am not sure if the software will work under OS2. One thing I do BG> know is that the "LOCK" will not work. I talked to the BG> company that makes them they said it worked under OS2 2.0 BG> but not under 2.1 and IBM wont tell tehm what they changed BG> so that Aztec could make changes to support the 2.1 BG> version. YOu might want to tell IBM to give them a hand or BG> at least tell them what they changed. Boyd, OS/2 2.1 will not allow a DOS session with a Hardware Lock to work due to several changes. The biggest being a greater level of protection to hardware access in a effort to increase system protection. The printer API was changed to fix some problems with DOS program access to printer ports and OS/2's ability to assign multiple virtual printer ports to a single physical printer port. Also, a lot of modifications were made in the bi-directional parts of the printer drivers. Tell Aztec to look at the bi-directional function calls, to use C Set Plus Plus, and to set their "security" code up as a DLL linked to the main program via a device driver. A native OS/2 program would not have this problem provided they set up their security as a device driver that was ASSIGNED to the physical printer port where the lock was placed. If you want to look into the porting of the software to OS/2, then you can call me voice at 615-454-0505 and I will be glad to discuss it with you. Also, I have a security method for OS/2 that would allow you to do away with the hardware lock and maintain the same level of security the lock provides now, in fact, an even greater level, considering the availability of software that will break the Aztec lock and every other dongle on the market. ___ þ KWQ/2 1.2a þ "Protection of the consumer by regulation is illusory." - --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 547 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/17/93 7:32p Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > bad, but all those message areas - yikes! Anyone know > of a shortcut for adding message areas to Maximus and > Squish? Not sure about those, but if you will give me the "format" sample for each I will add them to my A2C.EXE I wrote for us PCBoard ops, and that way it will benefit you and any others joining... Ozzman... --- PCBoard Tosser 1.20a * Origin: OTWS&C BBS (615)-634-5050 38,400 ISDN w/ClassAxe.PPE (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 548 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 11/17/93 6:08p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Jason Fesler, Rick Ashworth said: RA>I guess.. How many lawyers have you seen to insure that you have RA>followed all legal regulations regarding your own bbs? I haven't. I write my own software; I keep only stuff that relates to the software that I write, and utilities etc that may be useful to that end. I do get the PDN. My system is not really a file center; it is more of a net services site, that provides various options like internet gateways for the net, as well as advanced file search systems, allowing sysops/users/whatever to use my system to find what they are looking for. I'm rather THANKFUL that I am not a major _file_ resource; my phone line is more than busy enough as it is! JF> gets limited distrubition. The way I take your message, if they have a JF> distrubition license that states specific terms, your reply is "*uck em"? RA>Absolutely. Don't carry their files on PDN, don't carry them on RA>bbs's.. What the heck good does it do for an author to write RA>shareware, then prevent it's distribution? It still makes no sense. RA>Do you know of any distibution license that prohibits satellite RA>transmission? Refusing transport is a reasonable alternative, as long as you are not simply ignoring their distribution license. Your previous message sounded more like "screw their requirements, make them fly anyways." JF> If you want a real answer to this -- ask Janis directly in PDNECHO or JF> netmail. You're asking people who have third party information. RA>Those are the ones that are replying in this echo, however.. I would suggest looking into getting the "PDNECHO" area then, and ask _there_. Discussing this behind _their_ backs, and expecting good definitive answers, just won't work. Meet ya there. --- WME 1.09 (Nov 17 1993)/sq+ * Origin: WME Online! / Net Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 549 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/18/93 1:05p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Ervin, 17 Nov 93, 17:31, Ervin Jay wrote to Terry Blount: EJ> Why push so hard to have fresher mail that simply sits around on the EJ> hub system(s) till 1 or 2am the "next" morning..... If the downlinks know an approximate time when it will finish, let them decide whether it's more important to get the new mail or let the user's on line, (ie, let them poll whenever they choose). --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-16.8 DS, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 550 To: DAVID BLUM Date: 11/18/93 1:06p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi David, 17 Nov 93, 20:13, David Blum wrote to Patty Pickett: DB> I got the file from you and it works great, but how do I keep it from DB> sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure DB> that he has better things to do than read those messages, right DB> Boyd.. Use NetManager to delete them. Available here as NTMGR94.ARJ 2400+ except ZMH. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-16.8 DS, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 551 To: ALL Date: 11/18/93 5:13p Subj: Hi! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! If this message is being recieved please respond, thanks... ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ... Sysops are guilty of baudy behavior. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 552 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/21/93 8:44a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GS> If its in FILEBONE.NA then its on the filebone...... > JW> That is incorrect. If it's listed in Filebone.Na with a "!" > JW> flag, _then_ it's on the Filebone. > Hmmmm I could have sworn thats what I said...... Actually. If you read the FILEBONE.NA you'll find it says "Only Filechoses with the "!" are actually distributed on the filebone" Not too much confusion there ... > greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org What's with this address? If you had a real/differant InterNET address it might make sense, but advertising a gated fidonet address IN fidonet doesn't really make any sense, *especially* since the same address is included in your origin line... (quoted below for your information) > _ Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) --==jb==-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 553 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/21/93 1:26p Subj: Password? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've notice recently that several mail bags are comming in without a password and my system is kicking them into the "bad dir". What is the scoop on that? --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 554 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 11/21/93 10:55p Subj: Re: Password? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've notice recently that several mail bags are comming in without a > password and my system is kicking them into the "bad dir". What is the > scoop on that? Made the unforgiving mistake of changing a config file. There might be a couple in todays but that should be the last you will see without a password in them. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 555 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/19/93 7:01p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> We will be. We are waiting on some modems and will put them on line as soon -> as possible. Are they Hayes 28800 modems by any chance? If so, please consider this an official request for the #. Very pleased customer, Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 556 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/21/93 7:01p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Thursday November 18 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Dave Osborne: >> everyone else. Anyway, after processing the morning run, it's delivered >> during monring hours. Hours that are classically low user level for >> BBSs. Thus the mail is ready when everyone gets home that evening. >> In short, an uplink at 10am EST would still allow downlink, processing >> and delivery before the evening BBS rush hour even for the east coast. BG> Note taken. I am just getting a feel for this. There will come a time BG> when everything will go out just after it is processed. Before too many people try to convince you to make the feed to the bird earlier or later, you might just want to study the impact Net105 is going to have on your feed. For any of you that don't know what I am talking about, just look in your nodelists at Europe Gate, Asia Gate, etc. Notice the area code 503. That is Portland, Oregon and Net105. All the mail to and from the Gates goes through Portland and Net105. Currently we insert 15% - 20% of the backbone into 209/209 (Western Star) at 4 a.m. PST (7 a.m. EST). That insertion will not have had time to travel to the Southern Star and get uplinked into the PC feed by 7:30 EST, so all the European, Asian, Australian, etc., mail waits until the next morning. However, over the next couple of weeks we will be altering where we send our outbound mail as we connect into PC. So, if all the mail from Net105 reaches PC in our connection with them at say 1 a.m. PST (4 a.m. EST), all the Net105 and international mail (15% - 20% of the backbone feed) will be at PC's uplink site 3 1/2 - 4 hours before it currently arrives. I mean, if you say pretty please to us, we may even send it to you at 11 p.m. PST (2 a.m. EST). Might just make a small difference in when and how you schedule your uplink to the bird. It may just warrant waiting a couple of weeks to see what impact we have on the timeliness of the backbone feed to the uplink site. Maybe the uplink could happen an hour or three earlier, instead of later. Who knows. It may not have any effect at all though I rather doubt it. Albert Gaylord A soon-to-be Planet Connect SHub in Net105 --- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite Hub * Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 (1:105/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID LUTJEN Number: 557 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/21/93 9:39p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Saturday November 20 1993 21:24, Ken Jackson wrote to Jason Fesler: JF>> ... German word for bra: stoppenzefloppen KJ> I see you've been watching too much Benny Hill....... The correct translation is almost as humorous: Bustenhalter --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: "TRADE WINDS+OS/2 V2.1+Intel/400e+FAX 503-297-6748+PDX.US (1:105/60) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 558 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/21/93 1:48a Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> heart of the problem I describe. Advancing these -> uplink/downlink times to something like 02:00 EST may be -> beneficial to making the PC system more 'current'. That would put things at 23:00 PST. This would over run the West Coast ZMH by an hour if we started our downlink at 23:00 and it took 3 hours we'd never be online for ZMH. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 559 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/20/93 11:18p Subj: Planet Connect/Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Since receiving the PC receiver at the beginning of this month, I had some minor tweaking to do to get the receiver to get all the mail packets without errors. We have been running the system now for a few weeks down here in Aruba, and it has been working out quite well. Sure beats having to call Long Distance to get all those echo's into the system. We are running the FD/RA (1 line) and Planet Connect under Desqview while having 4-5 windows open and still receive everything from the bird in the sky without any errors. I have to enable the 16550 uart's to keep the error rate down to a minimum. The only times I get some errors is when doing intensive hardisk sorts and we might see a or two file come in with errors. I have not been able to get the PCUTIL NEXT3 to work properly, while the PCUTIL CHECK# does work. I tried freqing PCUTIL from the author to get a update but no luck. Any Hints?? Keep up the good work Jacob ... Line noise provided by SETAR, the Aruban Telephone Company! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 560 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/21/93 5:26a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons, in a message to Tim Jacobs, you wrote: > > I WANNA MULTI-TASK THE PC CONNECT... > > If it works in Windows it will work in OS/2, What did you have to do ti > get it to work.? TL> I wasn't paying attention to whomever wrote this, but I can TL> run PC under DesqView, however if I open a window or do TL> anything remotely resembling touching the keyboard, it gets TL> errors and trashes the file. I'll be excited when I see TL> something other than PTC1009.ZIP come over :) Todd, We do it here with no problems that I know of on a 486 SX 33mhz. This may sound funny (in a way), but we found that by using a fossil on COM2 (where PC is connected) and turning on the FIFO's helped a great deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we generally have 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and whatever I'm doing) and the system really does seem to run ok... John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 561 To: JEFF WARD Date: 11/22/93 9:09p Subj: Re: .Tic for Nodediff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Jeff Ward to All <=- JW> Just wanted to check. Was I the only one who didn't get a Tic file JW> for the NodeDiff on Saturday. Thanks! I did not get on over here either. TTYL Jacob ... Documentation - The worst part of programming. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 562 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/23/93 9:45p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting JOE LYDA to BOYD GOODIN <=- JL> I just got mine all automated here and have a big question. Is JL> the PCUSENET going to blossum into the full UseNet or is it going JL> to remain slim and trim? I should get the necessary files to JL> handle it tomorrow and see what is there. Also will you be JL> providing the gateway into Internet? JL> ! Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator 1:3622/1000 (1:3622/1000) Joe I am interested in what files/programs I would need to handle the PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply any information on this. TTYL Jacob Oduber sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS Aruba 1:18/21 ... Line noise provided by SETAR, the Aruban Telephone Company! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 563 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 11/24/93 11:03p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting John Bierrie to Todd Lyons <=- JB> Todd Lyons, in a message to Tim Jacobs, you wrote: > > I WANNA MULTI-TASK THE PC CONNECT... JB> We do it here with no problems that I know of on a 486 SX 33mhz. JB> This may sound funny (in a way), but we found that by using a fossil JB> on COM2 (where PC is connected) and turning on the FIFO's helped a JB> great deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we JB> generally have 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and JB> whatever I'm doing) and the system really does seem to run ok... JB> John Same here, with about the same setup running under desqview. I enable the uart with the 16550 utility which locks the uart buffer. Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the tossing performance without any major problems under desqview. ttyl Jacob ... Line noise provided by SETAR, the Aruban Telephone Company! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 564 To: NICK ASHTON-HART Date: 11/23/93 10:09p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Nick Ashton-hart wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: NA> Hello Greg: NA> Sunday November 14 1993 15:04, Greg Shaffer wrote to Todd NA> Lyons: GS> If its in FILEBONE.NA then its on the filebone...... NA> Not so. Look at the top of the file where the key is to the NA> ! and ., etc. I could have sworn thats what I said.... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 565 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/23/93 10:13p Subj: Squish Mail Tosser Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Glenn Vermette: JF> Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to All: GV> Can anyone who is currently using Planet Connect tell me if GV> Squish will automatically accept packets with the .MOA to GV> MOZ extensions, without creating some fancy batch file? JF> We're getting ready to do the P_C thing. From experience as JF> as usenet gate, Squish only handles standard arcmail names, JF> and will ignore anything else. You will need to rename JF> them, or unpack them manually before calling the mail JF> processor. Your experiance is lacking then.....Squish handles those extensions just fine.... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 566 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/23/93 10:16p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. Amen...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 567 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/22/93 11:39a Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Craig Clark <=- TB> W A N T E D TB> written by TB> Terry Blount 1:3625/441 TB> Freq the magic file name "Wanted" CC> Thanks for the info - I'll be calling in a few minutes to CC> pick it up. I'm tired from staying up half the night CC> updating Max and Squish's control files. Sorry you had problems.... I forgot to include the revised version in the archive when I updated the docs. I sent it to you along with a netmail message. Anyone else who has freq'ed "Wanted" should do it again and get the version that works. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 568 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/22/93 11:29p Subj: DIZ'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Dunmyer wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > would so much redundant info be necessary when it could be > included only once in some kind of control file? JD> Terry, JD> The reason for TBBS' psuedo-directory style is that it JD> gives you the ability to have the file in a different JD> directory than where the listing resides. ... JD> Another reason for the psuedo-name/real-name scheme is to JD> allow non-DOS filenames. I see... I never have seen it doen this way. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 569 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/23/93 5:33p Subj: Planet Connect/Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: JO> to a minimum. The only times I get some errors is when doing JO> intensive hardisk sorts and we might see a or two file come JO> in with errors. Try setting your tics to 1 and 1. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 570 To: BOYD GODDIN Date: 11/24/93 11:13a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for you put those message on hold so that when they poll you with reply mail they would pick up these messages? I seems that method would be a more professional method of dealing with individual problems. Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.19:7) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 571 To: DAVID LUTJEN Date: 11/23/93 3:46p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Lutjen wrote in a message to Ken Jackson: DL> The correct translation is almost as humorous: Bustenhalter And invented, oddly enough by a Herr Titzlinger Sort of like the invention of the flush toilet by Thomas Crapper. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 572 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/24/93 12:23p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I run TBBS and a Mail Muncher "nanny" here to handle all the hubbing > duties, including Tick file processing. Tick takes just a few minutes to > run, tossing all the new files into download areas, updating the .DIR's, > and passing stuff along to my downlinks. Jim... Could you 'splain your TICK processing secrets?? I'm running the same basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across the LAN with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. I've just ended up letting TICK run only with the BBS is down, so TICK and TIMS won't fight over .?LO files.... (as well as .PT files..) Thanks! --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 573 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/24/93 9:11a Subj: Planet Connect Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: KJ> IS it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHEN is it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHY can't/won't you or Tim reply about this? Just a note for ya - since this is considered commercial, Backbone won't carry it. They _could_ limit it to strictly support/etc, and refuse to answer any and all questions re: price. This is how the FDECHO is structured today. However, once _business_ starts going across the wire, backbone will drop it, as they don't wish to pay for other people's business. KJ> I'd like some facts on this because the Planet Connect KJ> dialoque will simply not go away from the TVRO (Satellite KJ> TV) Echo. When I ask people to take their queries to KJ> PLANET_CONNECT they tell me they can't request it. Point them to people who ARE connected. Most people shouldn't mind polling for it, as it directly relates to _saving_ money ;-) .. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com ... Documentation - The worst part of programming. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 574 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/25/93 4:41a Subj: .Tic for Nodediff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JW> Just wanted to check. Was I the only one who didn't get a Tic file for > JW> the NodeDiff on Saturday. Thanks! > No, you weren't! I didn't get it either. Glad you said something - > thought it was my system or something... Me three. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 575 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/25/93 4:43a Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is annoying to > have to wade through these every day now. I rather like those. I haven't seen our net in there once yet. ;) But I would change the reporting period to Monday 12:01am to Thursday 11:59pm and Friday 12:01am to Sunday 11:59pm See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 576 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/25/93 4:45a Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hey Boyd, I think you are doing prety good with all this stuff. > I just got mine all automated here and have a big question. Is > the PCUSENET going to blossum into the full UseNet or is it going > to remain slim and trim? I should get the necessary files to The plans are the whole thing. > handle it tomorrow and see what is there. Also will you be > providing the gateway into Internet? No, but I'm working on being able to provide a gateway back to anybody who wants it, either directly or indirectly (through me or direct to the gateway). Don't hold me to it, but I'm working on it. See ya todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 577 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 11/25/93 4:48a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We do it here with no problems that I know of on a 486 SX 33mhz. I have slimmer pickings. A 386SX/25 with 2 megs of ram. > This may sound funny (in a way), but we found that by using a fossil on > COM2 (where PC is connected) and turning on the FIFO's helped a great > deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we generally have > 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and whatever I'm doing) > and the system really does seem to run ok... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BERG Number: 578 To: JEFF WARD Date: 11/24/93 8:21p Subj: .Tic for Nodediff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> JW> Just wanted to check. Was I the only one who didn't get a Tic file fo > r >> JW> the NodeDiff on Saturday. Thanks! >> No, you weren't! I didn't get it either. Glad you said >> something - thought it was my system or something... > Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to wonder there > myself for a minute. Now, if we only knew why we > didn't get it. Oversight? Later! It'd save some griping this way as well..... --- * Origin: The Rec Room Lansing MI (1:159/350) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 579 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/24/93 3:15p Subj: Planet Connect Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KJ> Boyd-- KJ> This was in today's ZEC echo. Can someone give us an KJ> ANSWER to this so people KJ> IS it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHEN is it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHY can't/won't you or Tim reply about this? It's pretty well there now. Fairly sure all three zone hubs have it, and I'm quite suprised at all the downlinks coming from here. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 580 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/24/93 3:16p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It TM> is annoying to have to wade through these every day TM> now. Depending on the messages are based on, might it not be better to correct to the software on your end that is causing those messages to be generated? At PC's level, considering the implications if a problem does occur, they pretty well have to run _something_ to keep an eye on the inbound... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 581 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 10:44a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: > We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other > folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for BG> BG> Working on it. Seems to have stopped ever since I stopped BG> alowing routed netmail through our system. Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee . It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not work. Thanks for your ear. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 582 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/25/93 4:47p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to John Bierrie: JO> Same here, with about the same setup running under desqview. JO> I enable the uart with the 16550 utility which locks the JO> uart buffer. JO> Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the JO> tossing performance without any major problems under JO> desqview. That is basically what I've been doing except I uncompress my mail bundles to a ram drive then tossing is so much faster. If Boyd would break up the trasnmissions into smaller sessions I would really like to run the whole show on a ram disk. I don't like my _expensive_ hard drive coming on and going off every second. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 583 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 4:53p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys BG> tossing your mail? We are tossing it as it arrives.... however catching an open line to send replies back to you is what causes the 3 day lag. I have often set my reply mail as crash so it would keep polling all night. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 584 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 1:09p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 24 Nov 93, 23:46, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in BG> the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! The stars and most of the RECs were handling echos in Fidonet.no also. It should be rather simple to handle those also. Would you please reconsider. Things are fragmented enough as is. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 585 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/25/93 2:06a Subj: Squish Mail Tosser Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jason! Sunday November 21 1993, Jason Fesler writes to Glenn Vermette: JF> We're getting ready to do the P_C thing. From experience as as usenet JF> gate, Squish only handles standard arcmail names, and will ignore anything JF> else. You will need to rename them, or unpack them manually before JF> calling the mail processor. Or, use SPAZ or GUS to blast 'em open before Squish gets hold of them... Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 586 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 5:08p Subj: Usenet ?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No We've noticed that some (test?) Usenet material has started to come in. Is this to continue ?? The files so far look like they will feed directly in to our cnews system. Where do things stand as far as getting the Usenet areas flowing from the bird ?? OBTW, here in Omaha it seems to be going quite well with PC. Thanks Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYSOP Number: 587 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 10:45p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> Boyd BG> BG>> Hows about releasin the Beta DV version of the PC Software and attach a BG>> USE AT OWN RISK clause, I sure could use it as I am getting some strange BG>> errors every now and again... BG> BG> It is being sent over the sat as PTC1123.ZIP. This is a MUST use version. BG>Mea BG>ning the 1009 version will be obsolete after the 29th of this month. BG> BG>....Boyd Whoa!!! Must use? I loaded PTC1123.ZIP on my system immediately after receiving it. For the first time in 45 days since installing my PC system it crashed during the first night knocking the workstation off of my network! The screen was blank with a blinking cursor. I am now running v1009 dependably again. Are you telling me that I am going to HAVE to move to my office to babysit PC? Guess again! -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 588 To: NICK ASHTON-HART Date: 11/24/93 5:48p Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Nick Ashton-hart wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: NA> Hello Greg: NA> Saturday November 20 1993 21:57, Greg Shaffer wrote to Jim NA> Watson: GS>> If its in FILEBONE.NA then its on the filebone...... JW>> That is incorrect. If it's listed in Filebone.Na with a "!" JW>> flag, _then_ it's on the Filebone. GS> Hmmmm I could have sworn thats what I said...... NA> There are plenty of areas in FILEBONE.NA which do not have NA> the '!' flag, therefore, what you said is incorrect... No, what I see quoted above from me is not all I said I dont think.....no matter, if thats not what I said then I stand corrected.....feel better now? :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 589 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 3:27p Subj: Re: Hidden Seen-Bys Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Ervin Jay: > Part of the mail dump (3 megs, 1200+ msgs) received today contained > Seen-Bys > which were behind a ^A kludge, in effect making them hidden, causing them > to be untossable, filling my Bad_Msg dir (and drive, crashing the system) > :(( BG> BG> It was our system. From now on if ANY receiving system BG> sees a problem with the bundles going over the sat then BG> leave a message in the PCSITES echo. This is our private BG> echo. Well I have to gather that PCSITES -never- -ever- gets any posts.....cuz there has never been a message in it here..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 590 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 3:28p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> > TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is > TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. BG> > Amen...... BG> BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys BG> tossing your mail? THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 591 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 12:05p Subj: PTC1123 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No T H A N K Y O U !!!!!!!! --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 592 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/25/93 11:54a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am interested in what files/programs I would need to handle the > PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply any information on > this. Freq me for WAFFLE (magic name) or WAF*.* (might get something else too :) and get these: WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a 2 file(s) 509925 bytes The first is the archive for Waffle. The second is info on how I have it setup on my system. I have it setup to receive mail just fine. What I haven't done yet is: 1) Batch mail to feed to other nodes 2) Configure the system to return replies (I don't have a gate yet...but working on that) Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted freq's welcome. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 593 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 11:57a Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > ALLRIGHT! So are we! Please keep us informed... > > Looks like it may be a while though. I see we aren't the only ones > behind in shipping. Yes, they quoted us 2 1/2 weeks before they get the current waiting list fulfilled. Have you given much thought which node you will be putting it on? I am currently polling node 2 and may wish to edit your nodelist entry to get whatever number that 28.8 is on. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 594 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/25/93 12:00p Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL>Usenet: WAFFLE. Will let you know more tonight. Tonight is the night I > Interested in knowing how WAFFLE goes. Working well so far. I have it setup to only toss incoming mail and it works rather well. I haven't worked much with gating replies back yet. I'll work on that this afternoon or Friday night (I'm a sysop so I have no life ;) > Atta boy! Don't flirt: I respond! 8-) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 595 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/24/93 11:02p Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on size it moves it to its own temp directory and your packer KK> continues on with the next consecutive number/letter. very KK> slick and easy to use..it gets installed as a batch file in KK> squish's or d'briges routing config. I thought that Squish took care of most of that already. At least from my experience you can just about continuously toss - send mail without too much delay. Of course you need a few modems attatched up to your OS/2 machine to do it effectively. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 596 To: ALBERT GAYLORD Date: 11/24/93 11:16p Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on -!- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite Hub AG> ! Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 I see that you are running OS/2. We are setting up now to feed the mail into an OS/2 system for distribution. I have some ideas on how this should be done. Maybe I will start documenting what I am doing so that we can work out the most effective method of distribution and feedback to the PC system. Any ideas then let me know. I will document what I have done up to now tommorrow so that we can get our 'heads together' so to speak. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 597 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/24/93 11:20p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on In a msg on , Tracy Mickley writes: TM>Whenever I turn the monitor on, the current file always get's TM>one T block and of couse gets trashed. DO> Possibly the monitor is sitting close to the CPU and the EMP is DO> zapping the serial port or something. Or the monitor is plugged DO> into the same outlet as the CPU or into the CPU itself and a line DO> spike is flipping a bit in the link. Doubtful video code is DO> involved. DO> Curiosity being what it is, when you figure it out, let us know. DO> :-) I noticed a lot of static sparking when the wind was blowing. Ended up grounding the sheild a whole lot better after blowing a parralel port. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 598 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/25/93 7:09p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jacobo! JO> I am interested in what files/programs I would need to handle the JO> PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply any information on JO> this. JO> TTYL JO> Jacob Oduber JO> sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS Aruba 1:18/21 Well I do not know how to answere you not knowing what type system, BBS software, etc.. However I will supply wgat I have I am going to run WCUUCP, from Mustang Software to handle my end. I also understand FredGate, FrontDoor, FredMail, Waffle, and GoMail work well together using Wildcat 3.9 BBS software. Also WildUUCP from OCR is suppost to be a great program to handle Internet mail. I am sure there are others already running these programs can offer a better answere than I can seing I am not yet setup in that area because my software has not arived yet. Seems like I always order something too close to hollidays and it gets delayed. Someone of you other users jump in here and fill us all in on what we need. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Profanity, the language computerists know. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator 1:3622/1000 (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 599 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 8:27p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to All <11/24/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> BG> See how not too many p-c receivng systems read the PCSITES echo I guess BG> can post it in here. Maybe it will catch someone's attention. BG> BG> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BG> BG> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from echos that BG> not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the FIDONET. BG> file I DONT WANT IT! BG> BG> ....Boyd Nor do I want it ether. Thanks for speaking out on it. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Sometimes you just have to say 'What the heck' --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator 1:3622/1000 (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 600 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 3:21p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> See how not too many p-c receivng systems read the PCSITES echo I g -> can post it in here. Maybe it will catch someone's attention. -> -> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -> -> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from echos t -> not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the FIDO -> file I DONT WANT IT! You might want to ammend that to include the FIDONET.NO file as well, as you send echos in that file as well. The FIDONET.NO file is for those echos that are not in the ELIST and were in FIDONET.NA. Currently there are about 70 some in that file all of which you send over satellite. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 601 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/26/93 1:17a Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Foxy, * In a message originally to Ken Kavanagh, Foxy Ferguson said: > KK>I have a utility called Sizemail that you set the max bundle size in > KK>..once your mail packer reaches that size it moves it to its own temp > KK>directory and your packer continues on with the next consecutive > KK>number/letter. very slick and easy to use..it gets installed as a > KK>batch file in squish's or d'briges routing config. > but I don't use squish or d'bridge.....does your utility work > with FroDo > and Gecho ?? It's already built into GEcho... Just go into Gsetup and set MAX .pkt size and MAX archive size... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 602 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 7:38p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys tossing > your mail? I guess right after they stopped coming. Thanks Boyd. It's appreciated. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 603 To: ALL Date: 11/25/93 8:17p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I must have missed something. I stumbled onto the files PCUSENET.* in my NEWSGRP directory. I'm guessing this is the startup of the Usenet newsgroup feeds -- or at least an open test of sorts. These files unzip to NEWS000?.BAG files and appear to be a singular file containing the combined *.X and *.D files. Question #1: Is this the start up or a test? #2: Hownhell do I process these *.BAG files? #3: I'm currently linked to Holonet for internet newsgroups/email bbs feed using UUCP-g (via PIMP for TBBS). Has anyone asked these guys if they can provide a 'oneway' link for newsgroups? ie, getting the downlink off the bird and sending replies through Holonet. #4: What newsgroups will be coming? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 604 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/25/93 9:19p Subj: .Tic for Nodediff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JW> Just wanted to check. Was I the only one who didn't get a Tic file > JW> for the NodeDiff on Saturday. Thanks! > I did not get on over here either. > TTYL > Jacob Thanks for letting me know. I haven't found out why it happened yet. I hope it's not a recurring thing. Guess we'll find out in a day or so! Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS Grover, NC (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 605 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/25/93 2:02p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to JOE LYDA: JO> I am interested in what files/programs I would need to JO> handle the PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply JO> any information on this. You should probably use FRED19Q.ARJ as the simplest (most robust) implementation of a gateway that I've seen. Waffle is great if you want full Newsgroup format (unnecessary to me except for cancels and crossposts). The setup is quick and simple for fred as you need only a few exec and config files to have everything up and tossing with your current FTN compatible mailer/tosser setup. If you have problems I and others may be able to pull you over the rough spots you run across. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK STENNETT Number: 606 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 9:41a Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages BG> from echos that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of BG> thumb. If it is not in the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! What about FIDONET.NO? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: DATAMAZE CONSOLE (1:203/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE MEADORS Number: 607 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/25/93 10:01p Subj: Planet Connect Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote to Joe Meadors: >> About three weeks ago I netmailed you a request for info on Planet >> Connect in response to your advertisement in BBS Callers Digest. BG> Well Joe we have been behind in getting those vidoe tapes made and BG> shipped. I will check and let you know if yours has been processed. Thanks. If for whatever reason my netmail failed to arrive I'll be more than happy to send it again. Warmest Regards, Joe FidoNet: 1:160/230 BizyNet: 70:1/80 Internet: Joe.Meadors@f230.n160.z1.fidonet.org --- GoldED 2.42.G1114+ * Origin: ?ksa uoy od yhW .enif s'gnihtyrevE (1:160/230) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BART SIMPSON Number: 608 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/26/93 5:00a Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is annoying to > have to wade through these every day now. Boyd our Hub used to pack them up in a file and if we wanted to look at them then we had the pleaser of unziping the file. Just a suggestion.. Bart Simpson.. --- DB 1.54/004175 * Origin: Dave's~On-Line~Repair (1:2230/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 609 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/25/93 9:28p Subj: Netmail _to_ 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I have been receiving the following netmail on my system, please note -> that every on conected to the Bird is 3615/51, so this msg goes to -> everyone. I've been getting the same thing, endlessly . --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 610 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 1:24p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What is the scoop on the weather maps? I need to start allowing my users access to them. --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Colo. Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 611 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 10:33p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd-- >> Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: >> TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is >> TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. >> Amen...... BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys tossing your BG> mail? As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of scrambled messages. To the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? Ken --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 612 To: SYSOP Date: 11/26/93 6:46p Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Whoa!!! Must use? I loaded PTC1123.ZIP on my system > immediately after receiving it. For the first time in 45 days since > installing my PC system it crashed during the first night knocking the > workstation off of my network! The screen was blank with a blinking > cursor. I am now running v1009 dependably again. > Are you telling me that I am going to HAVE to move to > my office to babysit PC? Guess again! > -Tim Mine does that too _IF_ I have the automatic status enabled in the .INI file. Since I took that out, it quit hanging. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 613 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/26/93 9:14p Subj: Hidden Seen-Bys Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well I have to gather that PCSITES -never- -ever- gets any posts.....cuz > there has never been a message in it here..... I post there a good bit. Must be a screwup somewhere. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 614 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/26/93 9:20p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I must have missed something. I stumbled onto the files PCUSENET.* in my > NEWSGRP directory. I'm guessing this is the startup of the Usenet > newsgroup feeds -- or at least an open test of sorts. These files unzip > to NEWS000?.BAG files and appear to be a singular file containing the > combined *.X and *.D files. They are newsgroup feeds. > Question #1: Is this the start up or a test? Test. > #2: Hownhell do I process these *.BAG files? If you wish, you can freq me for waf*.* or WAFFLE (magic name) and get these two files: WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a 2 file(s) 509925 bytes The first is WAFFLE, a combination news tosser, bbs door (or bbs :), and outbound batcher. The second is a small info file that I threw together detailing how I have it setup (so far) on my system. > #4: What newsgroups will be coming? When they're finished, all of them. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 615 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 11:24a Subj: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into this ? Best Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 616 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 11/26/93 8:21p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to All: TM> Question #1: Is this the start up or a test? I believe testing is in progress still as there has been no announcement. TM> #2: Hownhell do I process these *.BAG files? You can use a DOS gating program or the Waffle BBS system. I use a FRED gateway for email and newsgroups and the test files were easily decoded into *.PKT format for my regular tosser/mailer to take care of them. TM> #3: I'm currently linked to Holonet for internet TM> link for newsgroups? ie, getting the downlink off the bird TM> and sending replies through Holonet. Any usenet feed site (or UUCP site) can work a one-way feed if they're willing to do it. It is a simple manipulation of the SYS file. I would do it here except that I get the comp.* and alt.* hierarchies under test so deal with usenet both ways from my regular site. As soon as we get a full feed from the bird I can reestablish my feed as send-only where applicable (eg - the vmsnet and biz hierarchies may not come from Boyd's end perhaps). TM> #4: What newsgroups will be coming? I hope we get a full feed ....... Boyd? Regards, Dan W. P.S. - Fred will allow you full gating of news and email (except for 'control' functions including cancellations). Since all it does is convert the *.X & *.D files into Fidonet *.pkt files (like the ones you toss everyday ) it is very fast and economical of drive space. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 617 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 8:31p Subj: Couple of things Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, Missed 0000FFFF.FR1 and 0000FFFF.FR2 yesterday. If you don't need these posts to let you know something is amiss just let us know in this echo and I'll stop mentioning it. I received 50+ repeated messages of your GMD and "errors due to failed attempts to areafix" that were broadcast over the satellite. Perhaps this was due to an attempt to clear things up and cut the flow of these gems? Thanks for sending out the WE7 and WE8 files, Boyd. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 618 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/26/93 10:44p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Joe Lyda <11/25/93> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> No, but I'm working on being able to provide a gateway back to anybody wh TL> wants it, either directly or indirectly (through me or direct to the TL> gateway). Don't hold me to it, but I'm working on it. Well Todd, I am in Tullahoma TN and am looking to get a connect to someone in Tennessee to gate through. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Have you seen this Tagline? Call 1-800-TAG-THIS! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator 1:3622/1000 (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 619 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/26/93 7:08p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Could you 'splain your TICK processing secrets?? I'm running the > same basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions > across the LAN with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. The only thing I do is run TICK once every 4 hours. That's when SLEEP runs my mail process. Dunno how many downlinks you're hubbing for vs. me, but maybe I just have a lighter load and haven't yet see the problem. Or, maybe I have the problem and haven't noticed it. (that wouldn't be surprising) --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 620 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/25/93 10:12p Subj: Squish Mail Tosser Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: ~~ GS> Your experiance is lacking then.....Squish handles those GS> extensions just fine.... I must be using a different squish than everyone else. Any .MOZ files (as example) don't get touched; they are left alone in my inbound. I had to modify the batch files to rename them whenever it found them. Of course.. your mileage may vary. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A11a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 621 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/26/93 6:57a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jacob Oduber, in a message to John Bierrie, you wrote: JB> We do it here with no problems that I know of on a 486 SX 33mhz. JB> This may sound funny (in a way), but we found that by using a fossil JB> on COM2 (where PC is connected) and turning on the FIFO's helped a JB> great deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we JB> generally have 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and JB> whatever I'm doing) and the system really does seem to run ok... JB> John JO> Same here, with about the same setup running under desqview. JO> I enable the uart with the 16550 utility which locks the JO> uart buffer. JO> Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the JO> tossing performance without any major problems under JO> desqview. Jacob, I just saw that a new version of the PC program has come through with the ability to activate the 16550 without the need for the fossil... I haven't installed it yet, hate that "can't go back", statement should things not work as well. Probably do it this weekend anyway and hope for the best. I had a "funny" conversation with someone just the other day about all this. I was "told" I "HAD" to have another 386 machine networked, etc. or Planet Connect just wouldn't work and it wasn't worth the money for the other machine, network cards, etc. Luckilly I was in the other room at the time or my computer might have heard them saying that and stoped working. :-) ooops.. just saw a message from Boyd.. the new version is a "must", so definetly this evening or Saturday. :-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 622 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 7:05a Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin, in a message to Craig Gagner, you wrote: BG> It is being sent over the sat as PTC1123.ZIP. This is a BG> MUST use version. Meaning the 1009 version will be obsolete BG> after the 29th of this month. Boyd, A couple of things on this... One, how long has PTC1123.ZIP been coming in?? I just noticed it the other day and if I hadn't seen your message above, I might very well have taken my time before replacing the older version... How about "NetMail" when something as critical as this is coming through? Related... If it's only been a week or two, could you think about extending that "obsolete" portion in the future? I know there are a number of people out here, with or without PC who don't necessarilly keep such a close track on things. Plus, I have been known to be out of town for that long easilly and if the system would crash because of outdated software which needed to be installed within a week or so, there'd be little I (or possibly others) could do. Just a thought(s)... John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 623 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/26/93 10:53a Subj: Planet Connect Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Ken Jackson: JF> Ken Jackson wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: KJ> IS it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHEN is it going to be allowed on the backbone? KJ> WHY can't/won't you or Tim reply about this? JF> Just a note for ya - since this is considered commercial, JF> Backbone won't carry it. They _could_ limit it to JF> strictly support/etc, and refuse to answer any and all JF> questions re: price. This is how the FDECHO is structured JF> today. However, once _business_ starts going across the JF> wire, backbone will drop it, as they don't wish to pay for JF> other people's business. Nope......the process is in the works.......As for it not being allowed.....THere are several echos on the backbone that fit the qualifications you mention above..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 624 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 7:26p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No following up a message from Greg Shaffer to Boyd Goodin: GS> Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: BG> > TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is > TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. BG> > Amen...... BG> BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys BG> tossing your mail? GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... And again today...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 625 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/26/93 7:28p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim Watson wrote in a message to Tracy Mickley: TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It TM> is annoying to have to wade through these every day TM> now. JW> Depending on the messages are based on, might it not be JW> better to correct to the software on your end that is JW> causing those messages to be generated? At PC's level, JW> considering the implications if a problem does occur, they JW> pretty well have to run _something_ to keep an eye on the JW> inbound... No......they are being sent to 3615/51 which is -every- downlink.....They should be put on hold for the offending downlink to pickup when they send their inbound mail. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 626 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/26/93 11:55p Subj: Tick Processing Secrets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 24 Nov 93, john burton writes to Jim Dunmyer: jb> Could you 'splain your TICK processing secrets?? I'm running the same jb> basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across the LAN jb> with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. jb> I've just ended up letting TICK run only with the BBS is down, so TICK and jb> TIMS won't fight over .?LO files.... (as well as .PT files..) I do all my mail processing (Echo and File) to a holding directory then run a program called CopyMail, Which moves it to the real outbound directory. Copymail honors the Binkley Busy flags (not sure if TIMS uses the same). It will then append new mail to existing and even size arc-mail bundles. When a node is busy sending mail it copymail can be configured to either wait for a period of time or skip that address's mail and leave it in the hol directory. It has been working flawlessly here for quite some time. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 627 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/26/93 5:18p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Depending on the messages are based on, might it not be better to > correct to the software on your end that is causing those messages > to be generated? At PC's level, considering the implications if a > problem does occur, they pretty well have to run _something_ to keep > an eye on the inbound... If I was generating the offending messages I sure wouldn't be complaining about receiving the resulting GMD error messages. In fact, I'd want to be notified, but I wasn't generating the problems and all I saw was a growing number of the GMD messages coming in addressed to SYSOP -- something I've grown admittedly too think skinned about. Akin to nails on a chalk board I guess. It's all for naught anyway since Boyd is now addressing them using SYSOP names and is sending them netmail which is much appreciated. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 628 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 10:30p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I for one am very happy with your attempts to get the NETMAIL routed thru your system. It will be great to beable to have an almost instant NETMAIL to the backbone service setup. I can handle the messups and really don't care becauseI know that when it is working it will save me ANOTHER call long distance to deliver my outgoing mail. And it REALLY speeds up the netmail process. Thank you for the attempts and please take your time. Looking forward to yet another EXCELLENT service from your company! Netmail is a BIG plus! Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM DOWELL Number: 629 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 6:59a Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Boyd Goodin said: BG> BG> See how not too many p-c receivng systems read the PCSITES BG> echo I guess I can post it in here. Maybe it will catch BG> someone's attention. BG> BG> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BG> BG> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages BG> from echos that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of BG> thumb. If it is not in the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! BG> BG> ....Boyd Well this guy is reading both ! I wondered about those messages. Thought they'd just missed them in FIDONET.NA! Keep up the GREAT work! Tim --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PURE ENERGY * 910-786-5549 * PSI is #1! (1:151/907) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM DOWELL Number: 630 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 11/27/93 7:08a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JO> JB> We do it here with no problems that I know of on a 486 SX 33mhz. JO> JB> This may sound funny (in a way), but we found that by using a fossil JO> JB> on COM2 (where PC is connected) and turning on the FIFO's helped a JO> JB> great deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we JO> JB> generally have 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and JO> JB> whatever I'm doing) and the system really does seem to run ok... JO> Same here, with about the same setup running under desqview. JO> I enable JO> the uart with the 16550 utility which locks the uart buffer. Same here. Works well and the beta version of the new PC software worked fine without the fossil under DV. I've not tried the public release but it should do just as well or better than the beta. JO> Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the JO> tossing JO> performance without any major problems under desqview. I've just installed that also and the caching really improves the tossing speed. I'm also using Hyperdisk with staged writes to keep PC from killing the hard drive ! Tim --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: PURE ENERGY * 910-786-5549 * PSI is #1! (1:151/907) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 631 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 11/27/93 3:25p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is the scoop on the weather maps? I need to start allowing my users > access to them. Still waiting for the cpompany that supplies us with it to set thier rate. As soon as this is done I will let you know. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 632 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/27/93 3:25p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of scrambled > messages. To > the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? We have found the problem and it is being looked into. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 633 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 11/27/93 3:30p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > A couple of things on this... One, how long has PTC1123.ZIP been > coming in?? I just noticed it the other day and if I hadn't seen your > message above, I might very well have taken my time before replacing the Thats why you should check the PCINFO.TXT or the README.NOW files that go over the sat ever now and again. A new version is going over now. PTC1126.ZIP > older version... How about "NetMail" when something as critical as this > is coming through? Related... If it's only been a week or two, could > you think about extending that "obsolete" portion in the future? I know > there are a number of people out here, with or without PC who don't > necessarilly keep such a close track on things. Plus, I have been known > to be out of town for that long easilly and if the system would crash > because of outdated software which needed to be installed within a week > or so, there'd be little I (or possibly others) could do. Your system wont crash. The data stream is changing again and you would just get errors. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 634 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/27/93 3:31p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... > And again today...... I know Greg. We have found the problem and the systems is working on it. P.S. Get your receiver?? ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 635 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 11/27/93 3:33p Subj: Re: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks > like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into > this ? Problem has been found and is being taken care off. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 636 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/27/93 3:35p Subj: Re: Couple of things Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Missed 0000FFFF.FR1 and 0000FFFF.FR2 yesterday. If you don't need > these posts to let you know something is amiss just let us know > in > this echo and I'll stop mentioning it. Did you get errors opn them or they never went over the sat? > I received 50+ repeated messages of your GMD and "errors due to > failed attempts to areafix" that were broadcast over the > satellite. > Perhaps this was due to an attempt to clear things up and cut the > flow > of these gems? We have found the problem and it is being fixed. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 637 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 11/27/93 3:39p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I for one am very happy with your attempts to get the NETMAIL routed > thru your system. It will be great to beable to have an almost instant Don't talk to fast! ;-) > NETMAIL to the backbone service setup. I can handle the messups and > really don't care becauseI know that when it is working it will save me > ANOTHER call long distance to deliver my outgoing mail. And it REALLY > speeds up the netmail process. We do not route netmail. What is the sense of us routing netmail when yopu would still have to call your regular place to pick up any returns. Still a LD call no matter what. > Thank you for the attempts and please take your time. Looking > forward to yet another EXCELLENT service from your company! Netmail is a > BIG plus! Not any more! Too many problems with it. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 638 To: TIM DOWELL Date: 11/27/93 3:41p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well this guy is reading both ! I wondered about those messages. > Thought they'd just missed them in FIDONET.NA! Keep up the GREAT work! Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried by the star system I call. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 639 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 7:39p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BG> BG> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from BG>echos that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it BG>is not in the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! You also want what's in the FIDONET.NO. If not, we have a serious problem. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN DIMICK Number: 640 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> BG> See how not too many p-c receivng systems read the PCSITES echo I BG> guess I can post it in here. Maybe it will catch someone's attention. BG> BG> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BG> BG> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from echos BG> that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in BG> the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! BG> What about fidonet.no? DanD --- OPMED 3.10 b/006 * Origin: VFund Mail Server +1-503-240-0362 (1:105/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 641 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/26/93 2:21p Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Just a note for ya - since this is considered commercial, Backbone won't >carry it. They _could_ limit it to strictly support/etc, and refuse to >answer any and all questions re: price. This is how the FDECHO is >structured >today. However, once _business_ starts going across the wire, backbone >will drop it, as they don't wish to pay for other people's business. Where did this information come from? I've been involved with the backbone a little for a few years. I hear this story occasionally but I still don't understand it. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 642 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/26/93 2:24p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across the LAN >with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 643 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 7:44a Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are you carrying the echos in fidonet.no (the quasi or temporary backbone list)? Many of us treat those echos the same as the ones in fidonet.na. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: IMS BBS * +1 503-254-2817 * 16.8k ZyXEL (1:105/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 644 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/26/93 5:17p Subj: Planet Connect Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason, 24 Nov 93, 09:11, Jason Fesler wrote to Ken Jackson: JF> Just a note for ya - since this is considered commercial, Backbone JF> won't carry it. They _could_ limit it to strictly support/etc, and Not completely true. The ZEC just informed the moderator a few days ago it would be placed on the backbone if he followed the announced procedures. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 645 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 5:20p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry, 25 Nov 93, 10:44, Terry Blount wrote to Boyd Goodin: TB> there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales TB> that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee TB> . It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that Surely you're not saying you're using routed netmail for commercial gain? 8-) --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 646 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 6:35p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Tracy Mickley: BG> Yep. Just like the routed netmail. It just causes problems. BG> When something causes a problem I stop it. Remember again BG> folks. NO ROUTED NETMAIL goes to us. It goes to the BG> bit-bucket. That isn't a big problem... the problem is when routed netmail is sent to us and does not arrive and we miss the chance to sell something to pay our subscription fee for PC. :) --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 647 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/27/93 6:40p Subj: Squish Mail Tosser Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: JF> I must be using a different squish than everyone else. Any JF> .MOZ files (as example) don't get touched; they are left JF> alone in my inbound. I had to modify the batch files to JF> rename them whenever it found them. Of course.. your JF> mileage may vary. I found several problems that were causing a loss of mail when I allowed Squish to access the bundles.... now I uncompress all the bundles and point Squish to the directory that has the uncompressed *.pkt 's and it seems to be working great now. At the end of a session you simply need 2 lines: Pkunzip 00*.* \inbound -o del 00*.* I found that if I didn't use -o to overwrite packets with the same name the batch file would not always run unattended because pkzip would find duplicate packets inside different bundles and pause with the question about overwriting.... -o causes it to automatically overwrite and keep going. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 648 To: JASON FESLER Date: 11/27/93 4:33p Subj: Squish Mail Tosser Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: JF> Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: JF> ~ GS> Your experiance is lacking then.....Squish handles those GS> extensions just fine.... JF> I must be using a different squish than everyone else. Any JF> .MOZ files (as example) don't get touched; they are left JF> alone in my inbound. I had to modify the batch files to JF> rename them whenever it found them. Of course.. your JF> mileage may vary. Never seen an .MOZ but I know for a fact it works with extensions from .MOA to .MOH greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 649 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/27/93 10:45p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Jacobo Oduber: TL> Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or TL> 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted TL> freq's welcome. TL> See ya TL> Todd TL> --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM TL> * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite TL> Style! (1:3807/400) in today's nodelist, there does not exist a 1:3807/400, I tried at your listing at 100, but had no luck. if you have internet can you send me the text in the setup stuff to vandell@ds9.raider.net --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 650 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 11/27/93 3:30a Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No JJ>Foxy, JJ> > but I don't use squish or d'bridge.....does your utility work JJ> > with FroDo JJ> > and Gecho ?? JJ>It's already built into GEcho... Just go into Gsetup and set MAX .pkt size JJ>and MAX archive size... Ha! Guess I didn't read the docs nearly as thoroughly as I thought I had. :-( Thanks, John. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 651 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/27/93 3:31a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> > Interested in knowing how WAFFLE goes. TL>Working well so far. I have it setup to only toss incoming mail and TL>it works rather well. I haven't worked much with gating replies back TL>yet. Ah, that's good. We're not planning on putting it on our system, although I think t'other PC site in our net is considering it. TL>I'll work on that this afternoon or Friday night (I'm a sysop TL>so I have no life ;) Naw, sysoping _is_ your life. Ain't it? TL> > Atta boy! TL>Don't flirt: I respond! 8-) Well, shucks. Gal's gotta flirt with somebody ONCE in a while, ya know? Wouldn't do to forget how to. ;-) --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 652 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/27/93 10:05p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>Well Todd, I am in Tullahoma TN and am looking to get a JL>connect JL>to someone in Tennessee to gate through. Joe, you can probably gate thru us when we get it all up and going. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 653 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/27/93 7:09p Subj: Planet Connect Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: GS> Nope......the process is in the works.......As for it not GS> being allowed.....THere are several echos on the backbone GS> that fit the qualifications you mention above..... like Cforsale? --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 654 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/27/93 8:17p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <23 Nov 93 15:46:22>, Dan Williamson (1:3410/0) writes: >Sort of like the invention of the flush toilet by Thomas Crapper. Not to turn this into alt.folklore.urban, but I can provide some documented references to Sir Thomas Crapper. He did exist, but his legend has been quite embellished. Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 655 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/27/93 8:06p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <25 Nov 93 04:45:11>, Todd Lyons (1:3807/400) writes: >The plans are the whole thing. > >> handle it tomorrow and see what is there. Also will you be >> providing the gateway into Internet? > >No, but I'm working on being able to provide a gateway back to anybody >who wants it, either directly or indirectly (through me or direct to the >gateway). Don't hold me to it, but I'm working on it. What I would like to see is the outbound distribution through the PC system. We have a number of ways of getting our outbound back into Usenet, but the phone bills for our inbound load to Omaha (out in the toolies of cyberspace) run a couple hundred per month. What I've seen come in should plug right in, but I would hate to cut some of the groups over until I know the service will continue. Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 656 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/27/93 8:11p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <25 Nov 93 19:09:41>, JOE LYDA (1:3622/1000) writes: >Someone of you other users jump in here and fill us all in on >what we need. We currently have three sysops in the pulling hair with various almost- working news processors. Two of these run Wildcat and the other runs MBBS. We distribute Usenet in both UUCP and Fidonet format. The one guy who is struggling with MBBS had 20,000 (no kidding) garbage messages in oma.general due to a bug in the MBBS outbound news processor. The one Wildcat system seems to be working more or less, but he was having major problems last week until they shipped him yet another almost-daily update. We feed one guy who has been running Waffle for some time now with no major problems. Of course now he is trying some others as well. Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 657 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/27/93 7:49a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The setup is quick and simple for fred as you > need only a few exec and config files to have everything up and > tossing with your current FTN compatible mailer/tosser setup. If > you have problems I and others may be able to pull you over the > rough spots you run across. Have you tried using Fred on the Usenet files from the bird? My setup doesn't seem to recognize the format but then again I'm a real amateur at FRED and Usenet. I sure would like to take a look at your setup. :-) Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 658 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/27/93 9:15a Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd-- >>> Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: >>> TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is >>> TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. >>> Amen...... > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys tossing your > BG> mail? > As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of scrambled > messages. To > the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? > Ken Me too just got a real wack of them in this package... TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 659 To: MIKE LABB Date: 11/26/93 7:38p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Mike, Hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Hang onto your hat, not only am I sending this message to you but some NICE cold weather! Let me know how this comes out. Mark 433 --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 660 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/26/93 6:49p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wednesday November 24 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Terry Blount: >> We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other >> folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for BG> Working on it. Seems to have stopped ever since I stopped alowing routed BG> netmail through our system. Not quite, it is being rerouted back into the system, see my msg in PCSITES. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 661 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/26/93 6:50p Subj: Ken Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Wednesday November 24 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Ken Kavanagh: KK>> size it moves it to its own temp directory and your packer KK>> continues on with the next consecutive number/letter. very KK>> slick and easy to use..it gets installed as a batch file in KK>> squish's or d'briges routing config. DS> I thought that Squish took care of most of that already. At least from my DS> experience you can just about continuously toss - send mail without too Squish will limit the size of the individual PKTs inside each arcmail bundle, but will not limit the size of the bundles themselves. For that you need to run SizeMail from inside your Squish ROUTE.CFG using a DOS sizemail -cD:\Bink\sizemail.cfg Line. It realli does make a big difference for those with large feed downlinks. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 662 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/26/93 6:55p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello john! Wednesday November 24 1993, john burton writes to Jim Dunmyer: jb> Could you 'splain your TICK processing secrets?? I'm running the same jb> basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across the LAN jb> with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. Yep, this is one I have been unable to solve either.... Here it simply skips sending the file(s) to that node, not nice.... :( Here is how I have solved it using a batch as follows......... if exist E:\Bink\Outbound\Out\*.BSY goto No_Tick Tick :No_Tick jb> I've just ended up letting TICK run only with the BBS is down, so TICK and jb> TIMS won't fight over .?LO files.... (as well as .PT files..) Yes, seems that Tick wants to check "ALL" flo files to see if the Passthru file is still on hold for someone before it will delete it. When it hits an flo file that is open (being sent) it freq's out :(((( The above solves that, sorta, as well.... Be interested in seeing an other way this problem might be solved. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 663 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/27/93 4:58p Subj: squish Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday November 24 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Dave! DS> In a msg on > size it moves it to its own temp directory and your packer KK>> continues on with the next consecutive number/letter. very KK>> slick and easy to use..it gets installed as a batch file in KK>> squish's or d'briges routing config. DS> I thought that Squish took care of most of that already. At least from my DS> experience you can just about continuously toss - send mail without too DS> much delay. Of course you need a few modems attatched up to your OS/2 DS> machine to do it effectively. No, squish will limit the size of the PACKETS it will build..but not the bundles..for that you need a secondary utility like sizemail. Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Saturday November 27 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 664 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 11/27/93 5:17p Subj: sizemail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday November 24 1993, Foxy Ferguson writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Foxy! KK>> I have a utility called Sizemail that you set the max bundle size in KK>> ..once your mail packer reaches that size it moves it to its own temp KK>> directory and your packer continues on with the next consecutive KK>> number/letter. very slick and easy to use..it gets installed as a KK>> batch file in squish's or d'briges routing config. FF> but I don't use squish or d'bridge.....does your utility work with FroDo FF> and Gecho ?? i dont use frodo or gecho..so i dont really know we're sitting on the oposite sided of the ol fence :) will my mower cut your lawn? Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Saturday November 27 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 665 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 11/27/93 10:33a Subj: Filebone Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That is a "REAL" internet address. Gated or not. And alot of people dont > realize we can use them so this is a good idea.. Harumph... Guess I'm spoiled by having a full address here, not relying on FidoNET gateways (or any other .org for that matter).... Still waiting on the IP address tho... john.burton@sandbox.nova.com --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 666 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/27/93 11:45a Subj: Internet TimeTable Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Hey Boyd, I think you are doing prety good with all this stuff. >> I just got mine all automated here and have a big question. Is >> the PCUSENET going to blossum into the full UseNet or is it going >> to remain slim and trim? I should get the necessary files to > The plans are the whole thing. Is there any word as to when a full feed may start? I've been getting the test packets and all is great. Just awaiting the feed to begin. i didn't know if you may have heard something from Boyd. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 667 To: GARY BERG Date: 11/27/93 11:47a Subj: .Tic for Nodediff Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >> Thanks for the reply. I was beginning to wonder there >> myself for a minute. Now, if we only knew why we >> didn't get it. Oversight? Later! > It'd save some griping this way as well..... I'll agree with that. Boyd usually does a good job of letting us know what is going on. Maybe he wasn't aware of this one. Anyhow, I just got the NodeDiff off today's feed and everything was OK with the Tic in hand. Guess he got it fixed. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 668 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/27/93 11:49a Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is >>> TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys tossing your > BG> mail? > As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of > scrambled messages. To > the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? You and me both. I just dumped about 60 out of my netmail area that were tossed today. Maybe we'll hear something soon. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 669 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/27/93 11:53a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > P.S. - Fred will allow you full gating of news and email > (except for 'control' functions including cancellations). Since > all it does is convert the *.X & *.D files into Fidonet *.pkt > files (like the ones you toss everyday ) it is very fast > and economical of drive space. What about the .BAG files, does it hanlde them as well? SOunds like a nifty little program. Do you have it fro Freq? Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 670 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 11/27/93 7:03p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >jb> I've just ended up letting TICK run only with the BBS is down, so TICK >jb> and TIMS won't fight over .?LO files.... (as well as .PT files..) > > > I do all my mail processing (Echo and File) to a holding directory > then run a program called CopyMail, Which moves it to the real > outbound directory. Copymail honors the Binkley Busy flags (not sure > if TIMS uses the same). It will then append new mail to existing > and even size arc-mail bundles. When a node is busy sending mail it > copymail can be configured to either wait for a period of time or > skip that address's mail and leave it in the hol directory. It has > been working flawlessly here for quite some time. I run a QMail/CopyMail combo here across the LAN, Dennis. The trouble is, when TICK tosses his passthru files he also writes a .PT file. When TICK runs, he looks at the subdirectory defined in TIC.CFG. If you use a holding directory as described above, and then use COPYMAIL to move the .?LO file, you'll see that TICK will then delete the passthru file, leaving the .TIC only... This only applies to passthru stuff, the stuff that remains on-line needs to be identified by a designator common to both machines too.... The answer would be a TIC processor that recognizes a staging area... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** RIP available HERE!! ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 671 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/27/93 6:42p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> #2: Hownhell do I process these *.BAG files? > > If you wish, you can freq me for waf*.* or WAFFLE (magic name) and > get these two files: Thanks for the offer. I answered my own question on this one shortly after my post by reading some doc's . It seems that PIMP, the TBBS internet option module, handles these *.BAG files with ease. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 672 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/27/93 6:50p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TM> #3: I'm currently linked to Holonet for internet > TM> link for newsgroups? ie, getting the downlink off the bird > TM> and sending replies through Holonet. > > Any usenet feed site (or UUCP site) can work a one-way feed if > they're willing to do it. It is a simple manipulation of the SYS A call to Holonet confirms they will accept uplink only newsgroup mail. Their newsgroup 'mail control area' is only for knowing what to send down stream. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 673 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 8:36a Subj: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sat 27, 1994 Hello Boyd, After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. Yesterday's GMD summary over part of information received from 3650 * 07:0 :48 Summary: * 07:06:48 7 Suppressed inform messages * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN has characters after final ")" * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN line has illegal character * 07:06:48 11 ORIGIN line has invalid format * 07:06:48 44 ORIGIN line too long * 07:06:48 1 Too many ORIGIN lines * 07:06:48 4 Zone missing on ORIGIN line Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 674 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 11:15a Subj: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sat 27, 1994 Hello Boyd, After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. Yesterday's GMD summary over part of information received from 3650 * 07:0 :48 Summary: * 07:06:48 7 Suppressed inform messages * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN has characters after final ")" * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN line has illegal character * 07:06:48 11 ORIGIN line has invalid format * 07:06:48 44 ORIGIN line too long * 07:06:48 1 Too many ORIGIN lines * 07:06:48 4 Zone missing on ORIGIN line After receiving the daily bundles, back they were again, another 60 or so, identical GMD Netmail messages. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 675 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/28/93 6:02a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons, in a message to John Bierrie, you wrote: > deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we generally have > 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and whatever I'm doing) > and the system really does seem to run ok... TL> Todd, Two things... "Ok" is a relative term I use as I am satisfied with the way things are running, others might not be. Secondly since I have so much I need to learn, which you aparently know (Internet/Usegroups, etc.) I'm far more envious of you! :-)!! John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 676 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/28/93 6:16a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons, in a message to Jacobo Oduber, you wrote: TL> Freq me for WAFFLE (magic name) or WAF*.* (might get TL> something else too :) and get these: TL> WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a TL> WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a TL> Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or TL> 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted TL> freq's welcome. Todd, Know it or not, this week's nodelist does NOT have ANY 1:3807/4## systems in it at all. You are listed at 1:3807/100 and /104 though...:-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 677 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 7:59p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Jacobo Oduber <=- TB> Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to John Bierrie: JO> Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the JO> tossing performance without any major problems under JO> desqview. TB> I would really like to run the whole show on a ram disk. I don't TB> like my _expensive_ hard drive coming on and going off every TB> second. You can say that for sure, that woud definatelly be saving our hard disks, but I gues you can't win em all. I was think about setting up up the buffer file !!!st!!!.!!! to my ram disk, but there is no real setting for doing this to for example drive J: which could be your RAM disk. Like this we could have ALL the files come to RAM and when completely received, it just moves it from RAM to the Harddisk. One utility I liked a lot on the older dos versions was combi.sys, this was a combined ramdisk/harddisk cache. It used to work great on dos 3.3 I don't know if they have an update for dos 6.x. anyways c'yall later jacobo oduber - coming to you from sunny Aruba - Dutch Caribbean. ... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 678 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/26/93 8:03p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Todd Lyons to Jacobo Oduber <=- > I am interested in what files/programs I would need to handle the > PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply any information on > this. TL> Freq me for WAFFLE (magic name) or WAF*.* (might get something else TL> too :) and get these: TL> WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a TL> WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a TL> 2 file(s) 509925 bytes Will do, thanks a lot i'll be trying them this weekend. ttyl Jacobo oduber - Sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS, Aruba ... Line noise provided by SETAR, the Aruban Telephone Company! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 679 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/26/93 9:51p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting JOE LYDA to JACOBO ODUBER <=- JO> Jacob Oduber JO> sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS Aruba 1:18/21 JL> Well I do not know how to answere you not knowing what type JL> system, BBS software, etc.. However I will supply wgat I have We're running RA1.11+ but just got WILDCAT 3.9 and will probably be switching over to that real soon now. The limitations of the HMB and YAM don't let us take full advantage of Plannet Connect's feeds. JL> I am going to run WCUUCP, from Mustang Software Will try to get some info on that package. JL> Also WildUUCP from OCR is suppost to be a great program to handle JL> Internet mail. JL> I always order something too close to hollidays and it gets JL> delayed. At least you won't be spending your holidays debugging I guess. ttyl Jacobo Oduber - sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS, Aruba - Of course we're on the windy side of the Dutch Caribbean so grab your windsurf boards it's 80F outside :-) ... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 680 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/26/93 8:19p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dan Williamson to Jacobo Oduber <=- JO> I am interested in what files/programs I would need to JO> handle the PCUSENET files on our system here. DW> You should probably use FRED19Q.ARJ as the simplest (most robust) DW> implementation of a gateway that I've seen. Waffle is great if you DW> want full Newsgroup format do you now were this file is available? DW> If you have problems I and DW> others may be able to pull you over the rough spots you run across. Will let you know, thanks for the help ttyl Jacob ... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 681 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 4:25a Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys > BG> tossing your mail? > > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... > > And again today...... Read carefully Greg. Those are Qmail logs, not GMD stats. QM logs I can handle. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 682 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 11/28/93 11:12a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or > TL> 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted > TL> freq's welcome. > > in today's nodelist, there does not exist a 1:3807/400, I tried at your > listing at 100, but had no luck. if you have internet can you send me I apologize for that. The timing of this was incredibly poor. The reason your freq failed was because I hadn't defined my new AKA yet. I have it on hold here for you. > the text in the setup stuff to > vandell@ds9.raider.net No, I don't have an internet account. The local college here has one but they're having problems. They're not UNIX, they run VM and the interface they use is called Music and it's not quite working right: CLOSE, but not right yet. They aren't handing out accounts just yet. I'm trying though. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 683 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 11/28/93 11:15a Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JL>Well Todd, I am in Tullahoma TN and am looking to get a > JL>connect > JL>to someone in Tennessee to gate through. > Joe, you can probably gate thru us when we get it all up and going. Others too? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 684 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 12:46p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... BG> > And again today...... BG> BG> I know Greg. We have found the problem and the systems is BG> working on it. BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 685 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 10:19a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > What is the scoop on the weather maps? I need to start allowing my BG> users BG> > access to them. BG> BG> Still waiting for the cpompany that supplies us with it to BG> set thier rate. As soon as this is done I will let you know. Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been quite a while since they were promised to us. My users and I are getting a little edgy. --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 686 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/27/93 10:15p Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Peace wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: ~~ GP> Where did this information come from? I've been involved GP> with the backbone a little for a few years. I hear this GP> story occasionally but I still don't understand it. The people in FDECHO. But I'd be more willing to take your word or Bob's any day. ;-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A11a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 687 To: ALL Date: 11/27/93 6:29p Subj: Status report on the dish Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No STATUS REPORT ON THE SATELLITE DISH For those who did not have the pleasure of stopping by Dan Dimick's place today, this will serve as a synopsis of what occurred. Yesterday (Friday) the frame of the 10 foot Paraclipse dish was assembled and the mounting pipe was installed on the roof. Today the mesh reflector of the dish was installed (using somewhere around 400 clips to accomplish the task, hence the slang name for the dish: "pile of clips"). Following that, the support arms for the feed horn were assembled and attached to the dish. Then, finally, the azimuth-elevation mount subassembly that connects the vertical pipe on the roof to the dish was assembled and attached to the dish. The troops in attendance were all gathered and the dish was "lofted" onto the roof. About 5 of us jockeyed the dish around (with some trepidation on the angled roof) and installed the dish onto its pipe support. It was then that we realized that no actuator arm came with the system. The actuator arm is required to adjust the elevation angle of the dish. Dan and I made a dash to the hardware store to see if we could jury rig something. Alas, it was not possible. Thus, we must wait until tomorrow while someone builds up a actuator/elevation arm. Following the installation of the arm will come the installation of a guy wire system to provided additional support in windy conditions. Once those two jobs are completed, we can install the feed horn onto the dish itself, running the cable to the receiver and get locked into the satellite. Then data will start coming down from the bird. Tonight Dan is going to work on the necessary batch files. In summary, the dish is on the roof and a couple of hours work remain before we can begin receiving data. Thanks to all who attended and thanks also to that who paid up. If you haven't paid into the system and desire to do so, please contact Albert at 105/40. Regards, Poor, cold and tired Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 688 To: ALL Date: 11/28/93 3:55a Subj: Greatings & stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please allow us to interduce meselves... About a dozen or so dedicated sysops here in Net 105 (including meselves) had a party this weekend to erected an r/o ground station to G3 to receive the PC downfeed. As a FileBone HUB, my main interest in PC is the Filebone. Although there are many in Net 105 that were/are involved in file distribution before myself, many of them are now downlinks. As a long time file distribution coordinator and Filebone HUB i'll soon be receiving some great bird feed instead of calling LD for the FileBone files. MORE [Y,n], >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 689 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/27/93 10:51p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Depending on the messages are based on, might it not be better to -> correct to the software on your end that is causing those messages to -> be generated? At Everybody's getting those messages - not just the offending systems. That seems to be the problem. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 690 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 10:56p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Whoa!!! Must use? I loaded PTC1123.ZIP on my system immediately -> after receiving it. For the first time in 45 days since installing -> my PC system it crashed during the first night knocking the -> workstation off of my network! The screen was blank with a blinking -> cursor. I am now running v1009 dependably again. It's been working perfectly here, and seems to have cut down the errors caused by somebody accessing the hard drive on the server that's running ptccmain. I'm not using DV though, if that's what you're doing. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 691 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/28/93 9:53p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also want what's in the FIDONET.NO. If not, we have a serious > problem. I can only send back what I am turned on for to receive. If I start sending this stuff back to the star it would cause a bit of a problem on his end. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 692 To: DAN DIMICK Date: 11/28/93 9:54p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What about fidonet.no? See my previous message. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 693 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 11/28/93 9:54p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are you carrying the echos in fidonet.no (the quasi or temporary backbone > list)? > Many of us treat those echos the same as the ones in fidonet.na. Read my previous message to Dave. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 694 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/28/93 9:57p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That isn't a big problem... the problem is when routed netmail is sent to > us and does not arrive and we miss the chance to sell something to pay > our subscription fee for PC. :) As I stated ther is no routed netmail comming back for the star system. If I routed a netmail message from you thru the star you would still have to call your local hub or what ever to pick up any returns. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 695 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/28/93 9:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not quite, it is being rerouted back into the system, see my msg in > PCSITES. I hope it is now! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 696 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 11/28/93 9:59p Subj: Re: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the > last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. > The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. I think the system that was routing them back got it fixed. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 697 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 10:00p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? > Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) Which one, and is it working better than the first one? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 698 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 11/28/93 10:01p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National > Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been > quite a while since they were promised to us. My users and I are getting > a little edgy. I am not at liberty to say at the moment and yes they are working on it. Should not me long now.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 699 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 11/28/93 10:02p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's been working perfectly here, and seems to have cut down the errors > caused by somebody accessing the hard drive on the server that's running > ptccmain. I'm not using DV though, if that's what you're doing. Thats what I could not figure out. It would work on some and not on others. I could not duplicate it on any machine I used at the office. There is a 1128 version going over that should put that bug to bed.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 700 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/28/93 9:41p Subj: Sizemail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KK>i dont use frodo or gecho..so i dont really know KK> ... we're sitting on the oposite sided of the ol fence :) KK>will my mower cut your lawn? Yeah, but you havta push it, and I ride on mine. :) :) Ah.... Seriously, Ken, I found what I'd missed... It's a built-in option I'd overlooked in the docs. Silly me! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 701 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/27/93 11:00a Subj: Re: Ku in Pacific Northwest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Richard Bash to All *** RB> Any comments from you Ku banders will be appreciated. Our RB> group is currently breaking into its piggy banks and will be RB> ordering very shortly. Thanks in advance. Hi Richard, I'm in Shawnigan Lake, which is about 40 km outside of Victoria, BC (ya know...up here in Igloo land...Canada!). I ordered a Ku band system from Planet Connect last week. Should be here in a couple of days now. I too struggled with the question of Ku vs C....but after talking with Kevin Battersby in Courtney, BC and another fellow in Nanaimo, BC, they both reported perfect success with Ku in this area. One has since switched to C, but that apparently was only due to a bad receiver. I am told that in our area that we should get a 44db signal from the satellite on Ku. I know little to nothing about this but I've gone with Ku mainly because I don't have room for a 10 foot C dish. I'm hoping it will all work okay....will let you know next week I guess......yikes! Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SARKUTIS URANUS Number: 702 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/18/93 6:53p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Try looking in your satellite inbound area for this: > L:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO\FILEAREA.CUR > Boyd sends it out very regular... Hmmm, I looked all over my L drive and could not find it or the path ... Since 10-25-93 when I made my satellite server - I have not received a FILEAREA.CUR or FILEAREA.* I just looked to make sure... I remember a while back it used to come across and I made my TIC dir's using it - but mst of those DIR's are empty and my "unknown" area is full of "other" TIC nets/groups/or whatever you call em... A current listing of "real" areas would be kewl! G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr. OTWS&C --- PCBoard Tosser 1.20a * Origin: OTWS&C BBS (615)-634-5050 38,400 ISDN w/ClassAxe.PPE (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SARKUTIS URANUS Number: 703 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/19/93 12:00a Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Would you happen to have some source to a program (in pascal) that will read inbound PKT's and write out a long ASCII txt file? Or know where I can get my hands on such source? Ozzman... --- PCBoard Tosser 1.20a * Origin: OTWS&C BBS (615)-634-5050 38,400 ISDN w/ClassAxe.PPE (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYSOP OF HIGHER TECHNOLOGY: 8*14.4K Number: 704 To: DAVID BLUM Date: 11/22/93 9:18a Subj: Re: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Blum, Wow... I never expected to see Monroe Wisc on Planet Connect Echo. I don't know if you remember me or not, I was the SYSOP of the Electric Dreams BBS in Freeport IL (just south of you). Although not directly on PC, we get the feed from Ozz here in Chattanooga. I am trying to help him distribute here as we have 8 lines that are pretty empty at night. Are you working with Kevin Zimmerman on PC, or are you pulling it down yourself? (is Kevin even around anymore...? if so say Hi! for me...) --Mike-- --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Higher Technology: 8*14.4k at 615-875-9969 (1:362/1211) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 705 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 4:29p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the -> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not -> work. Routed netmail still works the way it is supposed to work. Routed netmail goes by way of the NODE-NC-RC-STAR-RC-NC-NODE. As per policy 4, the *C structure routes netmail. You should be connecting to your NC at least once a week anyway and (s)he to the RC at least once a week, etc. The *EC structure started handling routed netmail as a convenience to the rest of Fidonet since nodes normally connected to their NEC daily and the NEC to the REC, etc..., however, setting up routing statements the higher up you get in the distribution channel becomes increasingly difficult. At the net level, it is easy to set-up what with a few to perhaps a hundred nodes. At the Region level, it becomes difficult to route to individual nodes. Let me explain it this way. When I was the REC for Region 11, I routed netmail to the NEC's and let them handle the routing to the nodes. I had 42 nets in the region, requiring 42 routing statements to perform the task. However, if I had all of the region polling me, instead of just the NEC's, I would have needed over 1,200 routing statements to perform the same task. Since PC has nodes as well as nets connecting, the routing statements for them would be a NIGHTMARE to set up. Hope this helps explain a bit.. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 706 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 11/27/93 4:31p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Boyd, -> -> 24 Nov 93, 23:46, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: -> -> BG> that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is n -> BG> the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! -> -> The stars and most of the RECs were handling echos in Fidonet.no also -> should be rather simple to handle those also. Would you please recon -> Things are fragmented enough as is. PC already is sending mail from the .NO file. Try taking the echos out of your control file that are in *.NO and then watch your bad message area fill up with mail. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 707 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/27/93 4:38p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd-- -> -> As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of scrambled me -> To -> the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? Take a look at the path line and you will see that the messages are going and coming in a loop between 3615/50 and 3821/100. Seems that 3821/100 is set up to return all netmail from 3615/51 to 3615/50 and his mailer is doing what is has been told to do. I sent a copy of the offending messages to Boyd and talked with him voice about it yesterday. We will see what happens. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 708 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/27/93 4:44p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> just have a lighter load and haven't yet see the problem. Or, maybe I -> problem and haven't noticed it. (that wouldn't be surprising) It would surprise the heck out of me if you had a problem and didn't know it. You were one of the most attentive NEC's that were around when I was REC of the Region. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 709 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/28/93 4:05p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across > >the LAN with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. > > The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an > offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on > it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK from killing your passthru stuff??? 'course I'm running COPYMAIL v1.20, so perhaps a FileRequest is in order... Thanks George... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** RIP available HERE!! ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 710 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 5:34p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on That is basically what I've been doing except I uncompress TB> my mail bundles to a ram drive then tossing is so much TB> faster. If Boyd would break up the trasnmissions into TB> smaller sessions I would really like to run the whole show TB> on a ram disk. I don't like my _expensive_ hard drive TB> coming on and going off every second. Maybe you should concider a good cache - probably better then a ram drive. Takes me 10 minutes to toss the whole bundle with squish and 512k cache. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 711 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 12:57a Subj: New Version Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The new version is working flawlessly. To date this is one of the most stable comm programs that I've ever seen that I've run under DV. I've been able to redo my system so that the PC machine spawns another window and tosses mail in the background. Intense hard drive activity (across a network to boot!) doesn't phase the receiving of the files. This is all on a 386/SX16 so I will say that I am VERY happy with the status of the system and the results. Keep it up! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 712 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 1:06a Subj: Node number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This stuff is driving me crazy. I know that I just got my number changed from 400 to 100, BUT I need to tell you now that (more than likely) my node number will be changing back to 400 on or about January 1. Sorry for the trouble. Emergency situation popped up in the net with a hub going down and I had to fill in. A little foresight would have had me at 400 and 100, but Bob Davis frowns upon that type of activity. I'll keep you abreast of any more ridiculous changes se ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 713 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 4:37p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Jacobo Oduber: TB> That is basically what I've been doing except I TB> uncompress my mail bundles to a ram drive then tossing is TB> so much faster. If Boyd would break up the TB> trasnmissions into smaller sessions I would really like TB> to run the whole show on a ram disk. I don't like my TB> _expensive_ hard drive coming on and going off every TB> second. I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It does stop the write to the hard drive every second. Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 714 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/28/93 3:16p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: EM> Have you tried using Fred on the Usenet files from the bird? EM> My setup doesn't seem to recognize the format but then EM> again I'm a real amateur at FRED and Usenet. I sure would EM> like to take a look at your setup. Yup .... worked like a charm. I simply put all the extra bull aside (like the necessary items associated with waffle and uucico) and use the following batch file to process it: ========================================================================== TOSSNEWS.BAT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @echo off : don't echo commands spaz c:\newsgrp\pcusenet.* : spaz unarchives all the pcusenet archives into the current dir for %%F in (*.bag) do call MakePkt.Bat %%F : call the conversion batch file echo Y|del c:\newsgrp : Don't use this until you're sure processing works correctly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAKEPKT.BAT (Called by TossNews.Bat) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ fred-uf -c fred.cfg %1.bag 00000001.pkt del %1.bag : using the fred unix to fido gating (and your standard config file) : convert the batched files into ftn packets and blow away original. : Insert your site specific pkt processing here or your C/Pascal : routine to rename the packet uniquely and bump the reference up one. squish in out squash link : Process the ftn packet immediately ---- OR ----- nmbcvrt 00000001.pkt refrnce.dat : Using the value in refrnce.dat rename the 00000001.pkt : to ########.pkt and increase the reference by one. : (NB - This would be a simple C or Pascal program). : If you just leave it as 00000001.pkt it will be overwritten each : time a *.bag file is processed ========================================================================== Any further processing is via your fido mailer/tosser software as usual. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 715 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 11/28/93 1:28p Subj: Whatcha using? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dear Hans: What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any problems? Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 716 To: ALL Date: 11/25/93 1:06a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is what my ACONFIG.SKY file looks like: # net grp usr major minor topic type destination limit :rulebase, *, 1, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO/, * :rulebase, *, 2, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/, * :rulebase, *, 3, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/UPDATES/, * :rulebase, *, 4, _SKYID, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\PERSONAL/, * :rulebase, *, 5, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\FIDO/, * :rulebase, *, 6, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER/, * :rulebase, *, 7, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\TV/, * :rulebase, *, 8, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\CRS/, * :rulebase, *, 9, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\RIME/, * :rulebase, *, 10, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\ROSENET/, * :rulebase, *, 11, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\NEWSGRP/, * :rulebase, *, 12, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\MBBS/, * I tried to put the weather files on a different drive, but the software kept returning an error. If I moved everything to a different drive, all was ok. Is there a restriction in PTCCMAIN that all areas must be on the same drive? I don't have any problem moving the files after PTCCMAIN shuts down, but would like to save them if possible to a different drive in the first place. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 717 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 1:29a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: >> We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other >> folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for > BG> > BG> Working on it. Seems to have stopped ever since I stopped > BG> alowing routed netmail through our system. > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call > in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and > found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting > there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales > that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee > . It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that > CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most > of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's > most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we > really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we > can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the > effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not > work. > Thanks for your ear. > --- timEd-A10c > * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 718 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 1:40a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call Think about this for a second. When I pass it on to John then it hits its destination. Now when someone replies via routed it goes out thier hub and followings its path back to where you would normaly pick it up. Routing thru me is one way guy. You seen the mess I had with routed stuff going all over the place! Since we are dealing with *MANY* nets this becomes a routing nightmare. I have tried it, created problems, so I have stopped, unless of course, everyone still wants a whole bunch of stuff ending up in thier netmail areas. > in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and > found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting > there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales > that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee > . It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that As I stated YOU still would have to call him to pick up your replies if we route mail. So if you have routed stuff to go out use your normal means and then you are sure to get it out. > CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most > of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's > most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we > really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we > can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the > effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not > work. I dont see any solution to this problem. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 719 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/25/93 12:46a Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Maybe the fido boys need to re-think when ZMH take place...;-) Chris you've got to be kidding. The whole world would have to change their time and that just isn't going to happen. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 720 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/29/93 2:08p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys > BG> tossing your mail? > > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... > > And again today...... TL> Read carefully Greg. Those are Qmail logs, not GMD stats. TL> QM logs I can handle. Qmail logs that tell individuals that their message has no origin line and sends them a copy of it? I dont think so..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 721 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 2:10p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? BG> > Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) BG> BG> Which one, and is it working better than the first one? The one you replied to :)..... The new receiver is working fine......a BIG improvement over the other one. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KERRY SUTLEY Number: 722 To: BOYD Date: 11/29/93 4:30p Subj: Hi All!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just a note to say hello, and let everyone know that Machinery OnLine is echoing this forum. Well Boyd everything is working perfectly!!! Kerry Sutley, Sysop Machinery OnLine 1:2601/581 --- MajorMAIL V1.61 for Fido --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1:/2601/581 (1:2601/581) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 723 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/29/93 7:56p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 724 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/29/93 8:04p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > > Send xxxx 3615/50 > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Why is this? because the reply would follow the route back that would put the message on the hub that is in the network. If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 I would have to call 1:3615/1 to get my reply. It would not go thru 396/1. If I was in the 396 net then I would receive the reply thru 396/1 system. Maybe George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am wrong then I will try again. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 725 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/29/93 8:07p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > SEND 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. > SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. > ROUTE 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all > The problem seems to be that you are trying to send everything to the > uplink system and out the bird. As 3615/50, you're just another system > on the net and should be able to do anything any of us can do. And that > includes properly running GMD with return message being placed on hold > for the offending system. Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my route.cfg file. But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 726 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 6:19p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 27 Nov 93, 15:41, Boyd Goodin wrote to Tim Dowell: BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried by BG> the star system I call. I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his feed from John. You might want to check on that. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 727 To: ALL Date: 11/30/93 2:30a Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I must ask everyone's forgiveness. I was wrong! We are sending everything from the FIDONET.NA *AND* the FIDONET.NO files. So I take everything back. Now if only everyone would check their areas and make sure I am not getting local stuff like SOC_ROOT, EIAC (or something like that), RA-BETA (Dont carry this cause I dont have acces). Want more? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Number: 728 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/29/93 6:33p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! 28 Nov 93 15:16, Dan Williamson wrote to Ed Marquis: DW> Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: EM>> Have you tried using Fred on the Usenet files from the bird? EM>> My setup doesn't seem to recognize the format but then EM>> again I'm a real amateur at FRED and Usenet. I sure would EM>> like to take a look at your setup. DW> Yup .... worked like a charm. I simply put all the extra bull DW> aside (like the necessary items associated with waffle and DW> uucico) and use the following batch file to process it: DW> ================================================================= DW> ========= DW> TOSSNEWS.BAT DW> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--- DW> -+--+-- DW> for %%F in (*.bag) do call MakePkt.Bat %%F DW> : call the conversion batch file Here is what I came up with, saves having to go into another batch file. This does require 4DOS, but if your not using 4DOS you should be!! :) ECHO . ECHO . Checking for new usenet messages ECHO . cd c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet IF EXIST c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* pkunzip c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* IF EXIST c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* del c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* ECHO . ECHO . Converting UseNET to FidoNET with FRED-UF ECHO . for %%m in (c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do fred-uf -c... ...c:\fredgate\config.nws %%m c:\binkley\files\0000%@substr[%%m,31,4].pkt del *.bag Then all the packets have a unique name and squish can toss them later. Lance --- GoldED 2.42.G1125 * Origin: Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway Reno, NV (702) 322-9796 (1:213/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 729 To: ALL Date: 11/29/93 8:18p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm just about ready to order PC for my system, and my net out here, however I have just a few questions. Is anyone successfully running the pc software under dv, or os/2?. I have a dx2-66mhz @ 76mhz w/ 16 megs of ram. And would prefer os/2 if possible. If I'm able to run the system under a multitasker, then I can order the service at this point. If not, then It'll be awhile until I can afford a peer to peer enviroment setting in order to pull the messages in. Also is this base strictly for Sysops? Or can users read this echo as well? I have a few people interested in picking this up. Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 730 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/29/93 7:12p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> That isn't a big problem... the problem is when routed netmail is sen -> and does not arrive and we miss the chance to sell something to pay o -> subscription fee for PC. :) Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. IF you are conducting business via routed netmail, then you are causing all of the volunteers out there to suffer financial losses for your personal financial gain. Are you paying each of the nodes involved in routing your business mail? IF not, re-read policy 4. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 731 To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 11/29/93 7:14p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >Sort of like the invention of the flush toilet by Thomas Crapper. -> -> Not to turn this into alt.folklore.urban, but I can provide some docu -> references to Sir Thomas Crapper. He did exist, but his legend has b -> quite embellished. Not to mention his name has been flushed down the ........ never-mind. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 732 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 11:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call BG> BG> Think about this for a second. When I pass it on to John then it hits BG> its destination. Now when someone replies via routed it BG> goes out thier hub and followings its path back to BG> where you would normaly pick it up. Routing thru me is BG> one way guy. You seen the mess I had with routed stuff BG> going all over the place! Since we are dealing with BG> *MANY* nets this becomes a routing nightmare. I have BG> tried it, created problems, so I have stopped, unless BG> of course, everyone still wants a whole bunch of stuff BG> ending up in thier netmail areas. Boyd, this doesn't make sense to me. Outbound wise, you only have two nodes to deal with. One, you make copies of everything received via land line to 3615/50, aka the uplink. Two, you make "..." to 396/1. All you have to do is route everything not going to your own uplink address over to 396/1. You mighta oughta run something like MsgTrack on it first though, or you'll be seeing warnings from his -:) Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via landline via John's system. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 733 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 11/28/93 11:54p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from echos t -> not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the FIDO -> file I DONT WANT IT! MB> You might want to ammend that to include the FIDONET.NO file as well, as MB> you send echos in that file as well. The FIDONET.NO file is for those MB> echos that are not in the ELIST and were in FIDONET.NA. Currently there There are also quite a few Filebone related echos being pumped down. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 734 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 11:58p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS> No......they are being sent to 3615/51 which is -every- downlink Oh, now that's cute -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 735 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 12:07a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > speeds up the netmail process. BG> BG> We do not route netmail. What is the sense of us BG> routing netmail when yopu would still have to call your BG> regular place to pick up any returns. Still a LD call no matter what. Because there are some nets that if you are not a member of their CRP (and I know of at least two that have both landline and dish feed), then you don't get routed outbound services either. Neither is the dish operator always the inbound link. It will not be _that_ difficult to implement. I also think you'll find that many your customers would prefer that you in fact handle it. As a commercial service... Send xxxx 3615/50 Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 736 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 9:02p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> We do not route netmail. What is the sense of us routing BG>netmail when yopu would still have to call your regular place to BG>pick up any returns. Still a LD call no matter what. If it was properly routed, all returns would be on hold at 3615/50 when ever the node called. John routes any nodes/nets you service to you. You simply put them on hold. The netmail is handled differently then the echomail and since the echomail is all processed to 3615/51, these specific net/node holds would have no effect on it. When ever a node polls you and delivers outbound echomail and any routed netmail you simply route any outbound netmail to John or to be put on hold if the system is already on PC. The star, region and net hubs do it all the time. Say you're processing for 123/301, 133/16 & 321/123 amoung others. You're routing file might look like.... SEND 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. ROUTE 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all The problem seems to be that you are trying to send everything to the uplink system and out the bird. As 3615/50, you're just another system on the net and should be able to do anything any of us can do. And that includes properly running GMD with return message being placed on hold for the offending system. This sounds too simple... what am I missing...... :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 737 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 9:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG>by the star system I call. Hmmmm.... strange... they are here. And I'm one step away from John. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 738 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/28/93 6:54a Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Wednesday November 24 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Albert Gaylord: DS> In a msg on > -!- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite Hub AG>> ! Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 DS> I see that you are running OS/2. We are setting up now to feed the mail DS> into an OS/2 system for distribution. I have some ideas on how this should DS> be done. Maybe I will start documenting what I am doing so that we can DS> work out the most effective method of distribution and feedback to the PC DS> system. Any ideas then let me know. I will document what I have done up to DS> now tommorrow so that we can get our 'heads together' so to speak. -+- DS> msgedsq/2 2.1 DS> + Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) Our satellite downlink site also uses OS/2, so if you post in this echo he - and all the others using/wishing to use OS/2 will know better how to implement it. Thanks, Albert --- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite SHub * Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 (1:105/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 739 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 1:43p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Thank you for the attempts and please take your time. Looking -> > forward to yet another EXCELLENT service from your company! Netmai -> > BIG plus! -> -> Not any more! Too many problems with it. Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the system yesterday and debugging it now). However, I do not think you can just disregard routed netmail. I would urge you to consider some method of implementing it for Fidonet. Please. On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to merit further review. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 740 To: ALL Date: 11/29/93 1:50p Subj: COM1 no good? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, are there workarounds? Thanks. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 741 To: DAVID BLUM Date: 11/20/93 12:23p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I got the file from you and it works great, but how do I keep it from > sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure > that he has better things to do than read those messages, right > Boyd.. Try looking for a Packet Exclude parameter in the GMD config, David, and entering Boyd's address(es) there. I don't run GMD here myself, but my fiance does. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 742 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/20/93 12:23p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well now waht happened was that some of last weeks mail got in with > that days mail. So you got old and new. This was a mistake at the UPLINK > computer. I have remedied the problem. Thanks for letting me know. Okay, thanks Boyd! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 743 To: ALL Date: 11/30/93 9:01a Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Rick Morris NC/NEC 2350 --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 744 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/24/93 4:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jim, You pose a good argument for the little delay. I may just go ahed and shift my external events, or remove some of them. I had them there when I was a mail hub, and like you, I didn't want to use TIMS to do my tossing. It has major draw backs for everything except netmail. I think that processing everything after 01:00 the next day will become part of normal procedure. You are absolutely correct... it IS only echomail. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 745 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 11/28/93 10:45p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Mike, -> Hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Hang onto your hat, not only am I -> sending this message to you but some NICE cold weather! -> -> Let me know how this comes out. -> -> Mark 433 Wow, it poured for two days up here with high winds. Thanks a lot, Buddy!!! Looks like you got it set up great... Coming in loud and clear Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 746 To: JEFF WARD Date: 11/29/93 5:31p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You and me both. I just dumped about 60 out of my netmail area that were -> tossed today. Maybe we'll hear something soon. Later! Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 747 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/30/93 1:03p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [munch] CC> I tried to put the weather files on a different drive, CC> but the software kept returning an error. If I moved CC> everything to a different drive, all was ok. Is there CC> a restriction in PTCCMAIN that all areas must be on the same drive? CC> I don't have any problem moving the files after CC> PTCCMAIN shuts down, but would like to save them if CC> possible to a different drive in the first place. CC> -=- Craig. Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future upgrade of the software? Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 748 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 5:26p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am > wrong then I will try again. That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. later dude and keep up the good work. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 749 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/01/93 2:09a Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BW> I'm just about ready to order PC for my system, and my BW> net out here, however I have just a few questions. BW> Is anyone successfully running the pc software under BW> dv, or os/2?. I have a dx2-66mhz @ 76mhz w/ 16 megs BW> of ram. And would prefer os/2 if possible. BW> If I'm able to run the system under a multitasker, BW> then I can order the service at this point. If not, BW> then It'll be awhile until I can afford a peer to peer BW> enviroment setting in order to pull the messages in. Bill, I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 750 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 2:26p Subj: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd ! How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Regards Jerry --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 751 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/30/93 12:16p Subj: COM1 no good? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, are > there workarounds? Thanks. Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe you have a problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. There are 4 or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 752 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/30/93 10:10a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK from >killing your passthru stuff??? Nope. I don't run it passthru. I can see where that could be a problem. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 753 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/30/93 10:19a Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >for a time period when ZC. If memory serves me correctly you asked >everyone who used Fidonet for commercial purposes to be sure and do >it on their own nickel and not routed netmail through others who did >this for a hobby... Yup. It was a warning about doing shareware/commercial product registration and sale using non-consenting routed netmail. Echomail, being a point-to-point arrangement deliberately set up between consenting nodes, is a bit different. Still a pretty wild beast, but one we've consciously consented to. There are varying opinions about this and I confess that mine wanders on occasion. We're still experimenting and still trying to get a grip on FidoNet itself. And as a result the echo police do sometimes embark on little crusades. Once it was origin lines. Even tear lines. I'm certain we have lots more fun ahead. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BERG Number: 754 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 4:34a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my > route.cfg file. But it did not work. Look at the > GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) --- * Origin: The Rec Room Lansing, MI (1:159/350) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 755 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 9:34a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National BG> > Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been BG> I am not at liberty to say at the moment and yes they are BG> working on it. Should not me long now.. I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 756 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 11:40p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 28 Nov 93, 21:53, Boyd Goodin wrote to Dave Osborne: BG> I can only send back what I am turned on for to receive. If I BG> start sending this stuff back to the star it would cause a bit of a BG> problem on his end. If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas already, so it isn't a problem. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 757 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 11/29/93 11:42p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi MARTIN, 27 Nov 93, 16:29, MARTIN BELCKE wrote to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> netmail goes by way of the NODE-NC-RC-STAR-RC-NC-NODE. As per MB> policy 4, the *C structure routes netmail. You should be connecting MB> to your NC at least once a week anyway and (s)he to the RC at least MB> once a week, etc. Read policy again. The RC isn't required to route netmail. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 758 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 10:22a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > now. Sending netmail is not the problem... I can crash it but > teaching the fidonet world that routed netmail is no longer an Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 759 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/30/93 3:53p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TOSSNEWS.BAT Thanks for the info. I got your message and Lance's on the same day. Since I use 4DOS I tried Lance's batch file and it works very nicely. I appreciate the reply! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 760 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 11/30/93 4:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >ECHO . Converting UseNET to FidoNET with FRED-UF >ECHO . >for %%m in (c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do fred-uf -c... >...c:\fredgate\config.nws %%m c:\binkley\files\0000%@substr[%%m,31,4].pkt This worked real well with 4DOS 5.0. I just changed the paths and @substr string position for the filename portion... Thanks! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 761 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: New Version Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Todd Lyons writes: TL>I've been able to redo my system so that the PC machine spawns another TL>window and tosses mail in the background. Intense hard drive activity TL>(across a network to boot!) doesn't phase the receiving of the files. TL>This is all on a 386/SX16 so I will say that I am VERY happy with the TL>status of the system and the results. Hey! That's sounds great. If it works that way for me, I'll be impressed. And Boyd knows that ain't easy to do. :-) Uh, Boyd.... Whar's ma dish???? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 762 To: BARRY CASSETTY Date: 12/01/93 2:24p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Barry Cassetty writes: > First, it is not all that seldom that I get up in the > morning to find the whole mess belly up with all 4 > port in the air. When you uplink at 0730EST, that's > 0630CST (my time) and 0430PST. Having the first > uplink a little later would make the hours more > reasonable. BC>I would like to this type of operation... I agree, but I think it has died the slow death of apathy. :-( Happy Holidays, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 763 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:30p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) going to BG>be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets via modem, there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. Admittedly the chain is routed netmail is involved and demands a lot of maintenance. It'd be nice if we had something along the lines of areafix for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) Say I'm calling 3615/50 to deliver mail. I also deliver the nets routed netmail. If that mail goes to a system you already feed, the process is over, your system simply sticks it on hold. If that mail is going someplace other than a PC system, you route it to John. On the other side. If someone sends something to me, it's routed via their links to John. John has a routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. Don't say it can't be done. It already is. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 764 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:42p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG>I think they were send all over the universe. Ha! Yeh, literally. I'm not sure what went wrong except that GMD does handle things kinda backdoorish. It actually creates a netmail to itself that is routed by the host system.... or something like that. So if routing wasn't working neither will GMD. I'm not sure what to tell ya, except that it can and does work. Don't try to rush it, pick one or two system close by that you can test with. What processor are you using? Qm and Squish require FORWARD FROM/TO lines as well in order to enable routing. One step at a time. First step, whar's ma dish? :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 765 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:57p Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> I must ask everyone's forgiveness. I was wrong! We are sending BG>everything from the FIDONET.NA *AND* the FIDONET.NO files. So I BG>take everything back. You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 766 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:24a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> SEND 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. >> SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. >> ROUTE 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all > Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my route.cfg file. But it > did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they were send all over the > universe. Me thinks it should look something like this. Route to 123/301 for 123/all Route to 133/16 for 133/all . . . Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY Route to 369/1 for OTHERS OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. >>>Larry<<< Say hello to Veger:-) --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 767 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/01/93 3:18p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under > Lantastic.... Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's searchable and accessible at once. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 768 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/30/93 6:52p Subj: Size Of Squish Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Ervin Jay to Dave Sloan *** EJ> Squish will limit the size of the individual PKTs inside each EJ> arcmail bundle, but will not limit the size of the bundles EJ> themselves. EJ> EJ> For that you need to run SizeMail from inside your Squish EJ> ROUTE.CFG using a EJ> DOS sizemail -cD:\Bink\sizemail.cfg EJ> Line. EJ> EJ> It realli does make a big difference for those with large feed EJ> downlinks. EJ> EJ> Cheers, Ervin EJ> Could you elaborte on this a bit more? I have several downlinks that intake between 2 and 3.5 megs per day, and the way I have it set up right now, it just keeps adding and adding to the bundle until the next day comes. So I have a 3.5 meg bundle of mail. I'd like to put these in 500K or so bundles...but I can't seem to figure out how it is done. Not to mention as my inbound daily dump arrives it takes longer and longer to add to bundles that grow bigger and bigger. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 769 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/30/93 7:06p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Dave Sloan to Terry Blount *** DS> Maybe you should concider a good cache - probably better then a DS> ram drive. Takes me 10 minutes to toss the whole bundle with DS> squish and 512k cache. Maybe you could elaborate on this a bit more (maybe in netmail to me). I use Squish and presently get about 4-5 megs of echomail per day, and it usually takes the better part of an hour to process the mail and bundle it up for my 25 or so downlinks. Needless to say my poor hard drive gets a good kicking everyday. My satellite system arrived yesterday and should be up and working by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 770 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/01/93 11:34p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday November 28 1993, John Burton writes to George Peace: >> The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an >> offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on >> it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Thanks for the Tip, George, works great for me in a special purpose...... but don't think it would work for my normal configuration. JB> Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK JB> from killing your passthru stuff??? Once I twigged to this little hummer... I set up a second, dummy, Tick.CFG pointing to my real outbound and this is the one that does the PassThru deleting... Appears to be working here. then again, I am only using this to hatch SatMail to the other Net Hubs, so TICK never really runs on the HATCH Tic.CFG file. Now, on a normal system where Tic is processing incoming file to downlinks, what is it that stops Tic from first looking at the CaopyMail outbound and, seeing no FLO files with pending Passthru files (since thery were all moved to the regular outbound last time) from then deleting all the PT and passthru files which are really still pending in FLO files in the real outbound? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 774 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 9:06p Subj: 'dish' mail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I run a message only BBS in Ft. Worth, Texas and hear quite a bit about the sat. system for recieving mail. I have built a rather large unix server, netware server and have ethernet,tcp/ip, nfs, nis, atp, etc. I built the unix server for the purpose of purchasing pagesat for getting usenet piped into my network. It is my understanding that this type of system is available for fidonet. I would appreciated more information about this service, how much it costs, what is required to hook it up, etc. I am basically wanting something to dump mail on my bbs 24 hours a day and keep keep everything on fidonet coming in here. I would also like to know how messages would get out from here back into the net. I would like to do something with fidonet before I do something with usenet as I understand the usenet system really tears the hard drive up. About pagesat, is anyone in this echo running it? I am wanting to purchase this system in the very near future also. If there is an info pack I can freq from someone about either of these services, please let me know. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 775 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/01/93 9:16p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill Wolf: MF> Bill, MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 776 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 9:54a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional PP> connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes PP> or routed netmail? Not since it has gone down. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 777 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 11:00p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours per day on a 486). Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 778 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/02/93 11:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, > everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his > feed from John. You might want to check on that. Yep I diod and I have everything in both areas. Sorry about that. Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 779 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/02/93 11:42p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am 33 years old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different companies founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant to S.A.H. nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. They could not afford me! > innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. > Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed > netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to > merit further review. I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst going to take a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will be in operation. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 780 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Okay, thanks Boyd! Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would not be tying the knot by any chance? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 781 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/02/93 11:46p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well whatever rate, if it doesnt include Canada, they're rather USEless > > and to think one of my bbs's callers uploaded me a weather pic of the > northern hemisphere not much more than a week ago..wonder where he's > getting his :) > Cheers, Ken Probably wefax. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 782 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45a Subj: Routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Sure there is, if John won't route it to begin with. Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: Lemme jump into the foray here ... BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) BG> going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ... and see if I confuse things more. How does a netmail message from one system get routed to another? Well, it goes to the originating system's uplink, from there to his uplink, then to that system's uplink and so on up the chain until it hits a system with a routing control definition for the destination system. Then it travels a similiar path in reverse until it arrives on the destination system. This may involve 2 systems, or 20 or more; the exact routing is unpredictable and requires each intermediate system to know where to route netmail -- there are a lot of people (and personalities!) involved and some aren't too quick on changing things so it's quite possible for netmail to get deleted or end up batted around in a routing loop between a few systems. The key to all this is the destination address of the message, not the originating address, not the intermediate routing points, and definately not any AKAs such as 3615/51. There are no guarantees routing netmail; nets have better chances than independants as the NC will end up with the message and is obliged by policy to handle it. Ok, so where does that leave PlanetConnect subscribers? I don't know what PC's plans are, whether they plan catering to more than just the FIDOnet community or whatever, but in reference to routing netmail (FIDO netmail, that is) there is no reason Boyd cannot hold netmail for PC subscribers at 3615/50. (Sending it across the bird I don't find attractive at all -- that would create some serious loops: as example anything routed through here not destined for any of my downlinks gets routed out; I serve as a regional hub in R19. It'll end up back on 396/1, where it'll pass along to Boyd, who puts it in the air, back to me, along to 396/1 ... ) Getting stuff routed into 3615/50 for subscribers is the catch, however. Basically what it boils down to is this: John Souveste needs send any routed netmail that hits his system destined to a PlanetConnect subscriber, through 3615/50. This means JS has to be kept current on subscribers to update his routing (let's not forget he has some major routing tasks already involving all the nets and independants that get their mail via his system) and since PlanetConnect is a commercial enterprise the "FIDO-legality" of routing netmail through it is debatable anyway. John may not wish to be involved with the "commercialization" of FIDOnet or whatever. I do not know if this is his reason nor do I presume to speak for John. A solution? Technically it's quite possible IF John can be convinced. Right now a one-way routing is possible from 3615/50 to 396/1. Everyone is welcome to route their netmail through my system, but I cannot guarantee delivery. (Any tracking responses might not make it back too as I route anything that isn't destined for anyone feeding out of here!) If a subscriber isn't local to a net that can handle inbound netmail, arrange for a regional feed with the local RC and set up a polling schedule with him or one of his RHubs -- an RC carries some clout and can arrange routing. An alternate idea is to establish a seperate zone for subscribers who aren't local to a net and use 3615/50 as the gateway. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 783 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:45p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: BG> Why is this? because the reply would follow the BG> route back that would put the message on the hub that is in BG> the network. Not always true. Depends on who's doing the routing. If I receive mail for an R19 independant who doesn't poll here, I send it directly to RC19. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 784 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:50p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Dave Osborne: BG> But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they BG> were send all over the universe. GMD responses are netmail. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER but NEVER put netmail on the bird as it will get bounced and routed by everyone who receives it and routes netmail. In 3615/50's routing definitions, HOLD a subscriber's mail and ROUTE through him his downlink's mail so he can collect any netmail when he delivers any echomail responses. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 785 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:10a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > First... Can I join your net? My net fell apart... we lost our > feed and the sysop of the local hub went on vacation and his Have to check with my hub on that. > system hasn't answered the phone in over a week. He is > discouraged that about 1/3 of his feeds have dropped out and > connected to PC and stopped helping pay the long distance phone > bill. He is a good guy but just isn't ready to accept this > technology. I am sorry to hear about that. > Second... if you put netmail on hold so that we picked it up > when we polled you with reply mail it would not be sent by > satellite and we should be able to get only the mail intended. Well from what every tells me the star system will have to set up each node that I have to allow returned mail to be routed to me. I am under no obligation to forward yours or anyones routed netmail. > "normal" means like I did before I joined PC and it is simply > not possible to teach everyone in fido land that crash netmail is > the only solution to contact me. I guess things in fidonet will have to change. >> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the >> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not >> work. I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be sent back into landbased fidonet. > Let me join your net and then do whatever you are doing for your > "normal" non satellite feeds. How do they get their routed > netmail? I don't see it coming in over the satellite. Dont have any "normal" non satellite feeds. I call my hub once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 786 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:15a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the > routed netmail from John on hold for the node to pick up when we This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from john unless he would have every address of every system that drops off mail to me. > You probably only have to give John a list of the nodes you > supply mail to so that he can send their routed net mail to you. I would think that his routing file is big enough as it is. > If he can't do that then we need to get a new node number so > that he can. I'll change node numbers today if it will fix this > problem. I can no longer get my routed netmail anyway so this > node number I have now is practically useless. This is where changes within the fidonet structure will have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee this happening anytime in the near furture. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 787 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:18a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 > ... > BG> It would not go thru 396/1. > I don't understand those two statements. They appear > contradictory to me. Here I route a netmail message to 1:245/89 lets say and I route it through 1:396/1. When 245/89 replies via routed mail, right now, as it stands, I would have to call 3615/1 to pick up that reply. I cant put it any simpler. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 788 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:19a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Maybe you accidentally found a new way to contact God. Working on it! ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 789 To: RICK MORRIS Date: 12/03/93 12:20a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a > clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the > *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not > something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Thank you for the clearification. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 790 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/03/93 12:23a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your > first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and > day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. > later dude and keep up the good work. Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 791 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/03/93 12:25a Subj: Re: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd ! > How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? > Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any day now. Also a sports online magazine. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 792 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/03/93 12:28a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if John wants to reply, the message gets addressed to 141/1135 and > will go to the system *he* has set up to forward to, 141/1 for example > who forwards it to 141/1240 who forwards it to 141/1130 who fowards it to > me at 141/1135. He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement too , wouldn't he? > I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail > to prevent someone from dumping both netmail and bogus Echo mail on your > system. especially since with your setup, you can't run secure. We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be able to drop anything off. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 793 To: GARY BERG Date: 12/03/93 12:29a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >> GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. > Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) Ha!!!!!!!!!!!! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 794 To: JEFF WALLACH Date: 12/03/93 12:30a Subj: Re: DRIG package requested Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Would you PLEASE look for our package and send out: > 1 Ku Band install viedo tape > 2 Updated software It is being sent. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 795 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/03/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more times.......... ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 796 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/03/93 12:33a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas > already, so it isn't a problem. Got that worked out. Seems a lot of systems like to send me there local areas and we I dont mind reading the R18SYSOP echo but it is just for of politics and such. I am still getting messages from the BITCH echo and it is not in either of the FIDONET.N* files! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 797 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:38a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't > allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) I believe you! But John's routing file would be enormous, not to mention how enormous it is now. > Don't say it can't be done. It already is. I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will give it another try. But nobody better start complaining if they happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up in thier netmail area. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 798 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:39a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) It was sent out yesterday. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 799 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Say hello to Veger:-) Who's Veger? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 800 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the > users to view them online. > Joe We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 801 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/03/93 12:42a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > any clues...dv was disastrous...3 meg survived after 6 hours .. > out of dv got another 7 meg... Do you have a 16550 on that port and did you add the SKYFIFO=True statement to the INI file? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 802 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 12:45a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, > but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone > local that knows how to do this. Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. Wonder if he would do that. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 803 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/01/93 10:29p Subj: WHATCHA USING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any > problems? Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I'm getting perfect reception. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 804 To: PCUSENET GUYS Date: 12/02/93 8:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORMAND MARINEAU Number: 805 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 6:38a Subj: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I receive correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia and I bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network ??? Thanks --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff015/b] * Origin: Innovatron, St-Boniface, QC (819)535-9072 (1:167/420) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 806 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/02/93 7:45a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, -> > there workarounds? Thanks. -> -> Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe y -> problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? -> -> Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. T -> or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if Ku, any problems? --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 807 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 27, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Tim Dowell: Hello Boyd. BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG> by the star system I call. I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. :-) Enjoy! John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 808 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:55p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 28, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to Floyd Drennon: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It travels the same route that it always did. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 809 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> Somehow I have to find the star that is TB> sending it my old route and have them route it to 3615/50 TB> and have PC put it on hold for me. I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be able to get it from there. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 810 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 12:02a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Jim Watson: > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one BG> routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Correct. I don't route any netmail to you, but you are more than welcome to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 811 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:06a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 01, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.2 wrote to Boyd Goodin: DO> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system DO> that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC (including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CHAMBERS Number: 812 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Thank you, GeeCee/2 --- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 * Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 813 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:56p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Craig Clark <=- TB> That is not possible unless Ptccmain changes its method of TB> moving the incoming file. Since some systems/hard drives are TB> very slow when they have to physically move the data it is a big TB> problem to guess how long the delay between files should be. If TB> a slow system is still moving a file when the next file starts TB> coming it would loose the data from the beginning of the TB> incoming file. Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of transmission of that file. The same could be done for other drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at the end of a transfer. Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch files after PTCCMAIN terminates. -=- Craig. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 814 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 12/01/93 7:59p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Miller to Craig Clark <=- DM> Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. DM> This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial DM> distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different DM> drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future DM> upgrade of the software? See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to look for it again just out of curiousity. -=- Craig. ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 815 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 10:43a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> On the other side. If someone sends something to me, DO> it's routed via their links to John. John has a DO> routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get DO> it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! DO> Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their routing too. And then many nets probably too. When new people come online with PC it'd have to change each time. And then everyone on PC needs to make a list of who they feed so everyone knows. I see it as a large production to get set up correctly for everyone and not have things go into black holes. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 816 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/01/93 9:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! Monday November 29 1993, Dan Williamson writes to Jeff Ward: > Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: JW>> What about the .BAG files, does it hanlde them as well? JW>> SOunds like a nifty little program. Do you have it fro Freq? JW>> Later! > Handles them fine. See my note in PCSITES. Available as FRED19Q.ARJ here or > from a site closer to you (maybe). Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 817 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 9:28p Subj: Internet TimeTable Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Jeff Ward: > I've not heard any dates that it WILL begin, but I've heard that it will > NOT be in full force until after New Year's. Don't know if that info is > still current or if it has been adjusted up or down. Rely on Boyd for > definite answers to those. Thanks for the reply. I'll be looking for the start date... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 818 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/01/93 9:29p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Monday November 29 1993, Mike Labbe writes to Jeff Ward: > Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! Yep, same here. I did get a single grunged netmail message, but nothing else so far! > PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance > of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could > be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which > would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... I myself really don't have a problem with the system. Most of the nodes polling my system poll in the early morning hours. Since they were already accustomed to all their mail being on hold status at the hub, they are happy with the service they are getting. I have actually had one or two of them remark as to how fast the turn around was in some echos! So, with the mail run starting about 7:30am, I usually can have the bulk of the mail out bundled and ready to go by lunch. So far so good! Later! Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 819 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 7:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ed Marquis to Jim Dunmyer <=- EM> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap EM> A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a EM> bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that EM> would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the EM> different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get EM> it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a EM> driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if EM> you used all Pioneer 604x drives. If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's online at one time. I know of some sysops using this method to get more than a 100 CD-ROM's online simultaneously. With Lantastic try this: NET USE D: \\SERVER1 This is assuming you are not already using drive D:; use a different letter if you are. Note that there is no resource specified after the server name as there usually is. When you change to drive D: after doing this mapping, you will see what looks like the control directory (\LANTASTI.NET), except that inside each subdirectory you will have an entire disk (HD, CD-ROM, WORM, whatever). Try it - it may surprise you. It may also be quite usefull to you. -=- Craig. ... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993 --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 820 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:23p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) or you have overlooked the -> reality that the "for sale" conferences make up about 25% of the -> volume of mail we transfer. I did not say that I was using -> Fidonet for a commercial enterprise... that was your assumption. An assumption based on your wording.... "missed some business opportunities". -> I may have been trying to sell off old equipment left over from -> a recent upgrade. If you have never upgraded and sold off your If that were the case, it wouldn't be business opportunities. "Business" implies the operating of a business, which is covered in Policy 4 to wit: 1.3.6 Commercial Use FidoNet is an amateur network. Participants spend their own time and money to make it work for the good of all the users. It is not appropriate for commercial enterprise to take advantage of these volunteer efforts to further their own business interests. On the other hand, FidoNet provides a convenient and effective means for companies and users to exchange information, to the mutual benefit of all. Network Coordinators could be forced to subsidize commercial operations forwarding host-routed netmail, and could even find themselves involved in a lawsuit if any guarantee was suggested for mail delivery. It is therefor FidoNet policy is that commercial mail is not to be routed. "Commercial mail includes mail which furthers specific business interests without being of benefit to the net as a whole. Examples include company-internal mail, inter-corporate mail, specific product inquiries (price quotes, for instance), orders and their follow-ups, and all other subjects specifical related to business. Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment that you personally own, then that is not conducting "business". However, from the wording you used, you implied differently. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 821 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 3:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's -> in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets v -> there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. BIG DIFFERENCE!! The difference being this. In the routing statements, routing to an entire net is a single line entry. Routing to specific nodes in a net requires an entry for each node. In a net of 50 nodes, assuming 25 nodes are feed by a PC site, and 25 nodes are not, It would require a 50 line routing statement for both John and Boyd. Since in many cases, not all nodes in a particular net are connected through PC, it creates a problem with routed netmail. PC is NOT the same as an REC. In our Region (Region 11) there are over 1,000 nodes. Some connect through PC, some do not. Keeping track of which do and don't would be a nightmare, not to mention the routing statements that would need to be changed each time a new node is added/deleted from the nodelist. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 822 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/02/93 3:44p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Route to 123/301 for 123/all -> Route to 133/16 for 133/all -> . -> . -> . -> Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY -> Route to 369/1 for OTHERS -> -> OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. What about individual nodes that are connected to PC......what about nets that have a portion of the nodes being feed by a PC site, others being feed by land-line connections.....what about nets that have several PC sites.....what about.....what about.....ad nauseum....... The routing is simply to complicated to be handled in a manner that is feasible. An old adage in Fidonet is this: If it's important, send it direct, if it isn't route it. Routed netmail requires the consent of ALL nodes in the routing chain. If one doesn't consent, the routing fails. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 823 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 6:44p Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > during the satellite software? John, I've seen this question asked before, and here's my feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is doing nothing else, of course. However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. That could potentially cause as many or more problems than it'd solve, of course..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 824 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 3:06p Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> Yes. In order for Ptccmain to move the file fast enough to pick up -> the next incoming file it uses a process that simply rewrites the -> file allocation table. This process does not work across drives -> since one drive may be on a different hard disk or a ram drive -> altogether. I'm running PTCCMAIN perfect as a user under a Novell system which doesn't have a File Allocation Table available to the logged in user. Saved my bacon many times running ill-behaved or delinquent programs. Just wondering how your proposed file move works. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 825 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 3:41a Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) He said routed *NETMAIL* not echo mail. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 826 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/03/93 3:50a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require -> > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough -> > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under -> > Lantastic.... -> -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap -> to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pio -> drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirec -> under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 827 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/03/93 9:12a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for > the > purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Take care! Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 828 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 9:44p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Frank Scheel: FS> I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed FS> write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It FS> does stop the write to the hard drive every second. TB> Would you post those hyperdisk parameters you are using? TB> I'll check the docs in the meantime. Device=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\HYPERDKX.EXE c:1024 s t:2 m:3 Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 829 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 9:21p Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and -> B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the -> Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as -> subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. -> I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You -> could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I -> could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's -> searchable and accessible at once. Sign me up too! have two DRM-600's here with Novell and am out of letters. Using Map Assist, which has a 10 drive limit. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 830 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 8:01p Subj: New BBS in town... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOHN LUNDELL wrote in a message to All: JL> 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually JL> being used during the satellite software? I hear a disk cache helps but I haven't got mine set up correctly yet. JL> thinking... a ramdrive would be nice for the temporary JL> file.. but you can't set that can you? No. The method of moving the inbound file from the temp file rewrites the file allocation table and does not physically move the data. JL> 4. Why does FIDOnet have so many people addressing messages JL> to SYSOP? They want your attention :) JL> I get all these messages each day flagged as JL> waiting for me only to find that they are from some user to JL> their sysop on some other BBS.. RIMEnet and others don't JL> tollerate that... Use your real name on your bbs. JL> 5. Way up here I am getting snow and ice buildup on my JL> dish.. it doesn't appear to affect the signal much, but I JL> can see during a bad storm the thing getting heavy and JL> moving offline.. can one get something to take care of that? Yes... your wife get the broom and go out and sweep it off. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 831 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 10:58a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have BG> on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route BG> netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be BG> sent back into landbased fidonet. That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business would not have grown as fast. BG> I call my hub BG> once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my BG> netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able do. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 832 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:05a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from BG> john unless he would have every address of every system that BG> drops off mail to me. My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the problem. BG> This is where changes within the fidonet structure will BG> have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee BG> this happening anytime in the near furture. Sorry to hear that. But I understand because I have experienced the lack of support in a similar manner in my local net. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 833 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:11a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. JS> It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It JS> travels the same route that it always did. The problem is that the entire fidonet "system" is always in flux. One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day a bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage the changes. When there are no changes in key positions everything works smoothly but when nodes that distribute mail decide to shut down everyone below them has to go on a "hunting" mission to get a new feed. If routed netmail was on hold (to pick up) at the _same_ system (node) we call to _RETURN_ our reply mail the confusion and maintenance would be less and the reliability would be improved. Ps. Don't route a netmail reply... I probably won't get it. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 834 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:19a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up JS> routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. JS> Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be JS> able to get it from there. Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 835 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 11:22a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: CC> Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to CC> have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config CC> file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: CC> configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then CC> PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. CC> When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data CC> would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of CC> transmission of that file. The same could be done for other CC> drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at CC> the end of a transfer. CC> Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for CC> PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch CC> files after PTCCMAIN terminates. This is an excellent idea especially if the mail bundles (0000FFFF.?) could have their own separate directory by themselves. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 836 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/03/93 11:26a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HANS HOOGSTRAAT wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like this: {$i-} Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); {$i+} If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you were not currently on the same drive. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 837 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment MB> that you personally own, then that is not conducting MB> "business". This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY CASSETTY Number: 838 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 7:39a Subj: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks >> like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into >> this ? > Problem has been found and is being taken care off. > ...Boyd Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 ...Barry --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Dandy Line BBS "Have Shack Will YaK" Music City U S A (1:116/4000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 839 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 8:44p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gary! GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, th GC> net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Here's typing to you from Mobile, AL....! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ..E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 840 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 8:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry! > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the Why not just route it through Richard Wallen, our local NC? I have had good success doing it that way...Just a thought... ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Authenticity of stolen taglines is not guaranteed. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 841 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 4:34p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 > in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina > would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to > us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off > mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I > would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle > from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 > systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who needed to file-request what they missed. These 10 could also be a perfect backup in case anything were to happen to the satellite uplink itself. If these 10 sites had ISDN in place, they could come in via the backdoor with ISDN and not worry about busy signals on the other lines. (this would be extremely important in the case of a system failure). I know of 3 other sites besides mine that have ISDN and have large enough systems to serve as backup and also have the expertise to act as a HUB. > Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on > the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects > of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the > computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the > ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. That's Overholt.......... Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 842 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/03/93 5:01p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PCUTIL is a great program and does a good job of what it was written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it comes to a bundle that is missing? I'd rather wait till that bundle shows up than to toss my mail out of sequence. If you'd like a beta tester to try this out, I'd be glad to volunteer. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 843 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/03/93 9:26a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If > Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if > Ku, any problems? I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 844 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 6:56p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Wednesday December 01 1993 23:00, Mike Labbe wrote to All: ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours ML> per day on a 486). I'm using FMAIL and it takes about an hour (I'm feeding about 15 nodes). Most of the time is to zip up the out going packets. I'm only running a 386SX with 4mg memory on a peer to peer network. I still use DB to answer the phone and to send the packets but it was TOOOO slow to toss that much mail. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 845 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 9:43p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... > > Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) If you would route for one net, you'd have to route for them all. As it stands now, each net should have a regional feed, but I can understand his want to eliminate one of his long distance polls. And on that note, would it still be extensive modifications to your route configs if you agreed to route whole nets' netmail? I don't run the complicated software that you do so it will probably be something more complex than the simple stuff we encounter daily. BTW, I pick up net 3807's mail from 1:147/7 (in case you have any messages that have been getting stranded and deleted). I got a call in to John now 'cause I'm curious why the R19COORD echo hasn't had a message in it for about 2 months. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 846 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 9:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the > satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to alt.bbs alt.internet alt.bbs.ads alt.bbs.allsysop alt.bbs.doors alt.bbs.internet alt.bbs.lists alt.bbs.metal alt.bbs.pcboard alt.bbs.pcbuucp alt.bbs.unixbbs alt.bbs.uupcb alt.internet alt.internet.services comp comp.bbs comp.bbs.misc comp.bbs.waffle comp.org comp.org.fidonet This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last Sunday. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 847 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 10:38p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In CC> regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. CC> I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't CC> recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several CC> hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to CC> look for it again just out of curiousity. CC> -=- Craig. It is there as a comment at the begining of the ACONFIG.SKY file. -=- Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 848 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/04/93 12:00a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Lundell, Jim Dunmyer said: > > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > > during the satellite software? > John, > I've seen this question asked before, and here's my > feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it > arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already > over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is > doing nothing else, of course. > > However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of > SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary > file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. > That could potentially cause as many or more problems than > it'd solve, of course..... Yep, totaly agree here... I have however been able to slow the writes down a touch by using an 8k fossil and a write cashe. It now only writes to the drive about every 8-15 blocks, with no data loss or bad results on the 286-16 that I use for PC only. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 849 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:12a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/03/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in BG> > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the BG> > users to view them online. BG> > Joe BG> BG> We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a program name to convert them. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 850 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 5:54p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, have a quick question and observation for you re: TVAGENT. Finally decided to take a look at the tv listings to see what they included, looked like, etc.. only to find that TVAGENT has to be run on the machine that has the dongle and actually runs Ptccmain. Further, the listings themselves are encrypted and can't be listed or viewed with anything but TVAGENT. With no offense to you or PC intended, what kind of a moron is going to interrupt his/her satellite transmissions to view a tv listing? I understand that you don't wish TVAGENT or the listings themselves to be distributed or used by other than the PC subscribers, but what of us who have multiple machines operating across a network? Or what of those folks who run PC as an event from their BBS on a single machine? I think such an action not only limits the usefulness of the listings but somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with regards to TVAGENT? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 851 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/03/93 8:19a Subj: RE: THINGS... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of > mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Don't worry about it, Glenn. I've been handling mail here since 1988, starting with CONFMAIL, later using Qmail. The HD thrashes for a couple of hours at a time, and I've yet to actually wear one out, usually outgrow it first. Same thing with my BBS; with all 7 lines going, the HD light looks like it's being defragged, not just servicing the lines. And, I've never worn out a drive there, either. If your drive goes belly-up while processsing all that mail, it just means that it was time anyway, and with drives now below a buck/meg, it shouldn't kill you to replace it. Especially if it's truly "old" as you indicate above. Heck, I took an ST-4096 off the BBS after a year or so, processed mail on it for about 3 or 4 years, then sold it to a guy who is STILL using it. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 852 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/01/93 11:34p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday November 28 1993, John Burton writes to George Peace: >> The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an >> offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on >> it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Thanks for the Tip, George, works great for me in a special purpose...... but don't think it would work for my normal configuration. JB> Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK JB> from killing your passthru stuff??? Once I twigged to this little hummer... I set up a second, dummy, Tick.CFG pointing to my real outbound and this is the one that does the PassThru deleting... Appears to be working here. then again, I am only using this to hatch SatMail to the other Net Hubs, so TICK never really runs on the HATCH Tic.CFG file. Now, on a normal system where Tic is processing incoming file to downlinks, what is it that stops Tic from first looking at the CaopyMail outbound and, seeing no FLO files with pending Passthru files (since thery were all moved to the regular outbound last time) from then deleting all the PT and passthru files which are really still pending in FLO files in the real outbound? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 853 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 11:07p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday November 29 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Jim Watson: >> >> >> Send xxxx 3615/50 >> Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed BG> netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Why is this? BG> because the reply would follow the route back that would put the message BG> on the hub that is in the network. 'Zactly, correct, it would flow back to the local Net via Landlines. BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 I BG> would have to call 1:3615/1 to get my reply. Yes, just as I, in Net153 would get the reply back via 153/752 who polls 396/1 for netmail. BG> It would not go thru 396/1. I believe it woud/should... Lets Track it. I send a netmail msg to 140/1 and route it via 3615/50 it would go to 3615/50 and would get caught in the Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All on that system, and would get sent via 396/1 396/1 would then bundle it up and send it to whomever the closest system is that polls him and has a connection with Net 140. The node in Net 140, would then get the msg from the local node who made the connection with John, or whomever was in the middle... This would look as follows 153/767 -> 3615/50 -> 396/1 -> 140/0 -> 140/1 Not overly efficient, but It really should work... BG> If I was in the 396 net then I would receive the reply thru 396/1 system. Yes, and you being in Net 3615 would receive the reply via your local Hub, but it would have been passed on via 396/1 BG> Maybe George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am wrong BG> then I will try again. I can be quite complicated, and if not implemented properly, it is a nightmare. If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone local that knows how to do this. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 854 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/01/93 11:16p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty! Saturday November 20 1993, Patty Pickett writes to David Blum: >> sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure PP> Try looking for a Packet Exclude parameter in the GMD config, David, PP> and entering Boyd's address(es) there. I don't run GMD here myself, but PP> my fiance does. This only works in a partial manner, as any msg requiring a deletion will still generate a rsponse msg. What you need is KillerDOG and run this after Tossing and before packing netmail. KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message This will kill a netmsg to 3615/50 if the words Grunged Message appear in the subject line. KILLERDOG.ZIP 17,348 available for fREQ from 153/767 HST 14.4 153/797 DS 14.4 153/798 2400 Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 855 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/01/93 11:28p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dennis! Tuesday November 30 1993, Dennis Powers writes to John Burton: JB>> to move the .?LO file, you'll see that TICK will then delete the JB>> passthru file, leaving the .TIC only... DP> I run 30+ file echos and 15 passthru echos without a problem. There are DP> two verbs in Tick that specify where the control files go. DP> IN i:\inbound\ DP> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees DP> ZONE 8 i:\outbound.008\ <===== the actual outbounds are on drive J DP> NET 141 DP> NODE 1135 DP> TZ EST5EDT DP> REPLACE DP> STOPDUP i:\mail\TICK\dups\ DP> FLEA DP> hold j:\netmail\tickhold\ <===== This is where Tick writes the *.Tic & But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from seeing the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in I:\Outbound\, and seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs from deleting the PT's and the Passthru Files. It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there are no FLO files remaining. The ONLY way I could get it to work (and it is unique as Hatch runs on one Tic.CFG while Tick runs against another) was to create two TIC cfgs, one for Hatch, the other for Tick (pointing to the real outbound so it would see the still pending FLO files thus not celete the passthru files. Cheers, Ervin ... A lie in time saves nine. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 856 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 9:06p Subj: 'dish' mail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I run a message only BBS in Ft. Worth, Texas and hear quite a bit about the sat. system for recieving mail. I have built a rather large unix server, netware server and have ethernet,tcp/ip, nfs, nis, atp, etc. I built the unix server for the purpose of purchasing pagesat for getting usenet piped into my network. It is my understanding that this type of system is available for fidonet. I would appreciated more information about this service, how much it costs, what is required to hook it up, etc. I am basically wanting something to dump mail on my bbs 24 hours a day and keep keep everything on fidonet coming in here. I would also like to know how messages would get out from here back into the net. I would like to do something with fidonet before I do something with usenet as I understand the usenet system really tears the hard drive up. About pagesat, is anyone in this echo running it? I am wanting to purchase this system in the very near future also. If there is an info pack I can freq from someone about either of these services, please let me know. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 857 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/01/93 9:16p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill Wolf: MF> Bill, MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 858 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 9:54a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional PP> connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes PP> or routed netmail? Not since it has gone down. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 859 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 11:00p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours per day on a 486). Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 860 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/02/93 11:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, > everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his > feed from John. You might want to check on that. Yep I diod and I have everything in both areas. Sorry about that. Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 861 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/02/93 11:42p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am 33 years old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different companies founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant to S.A.H. nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. They could not afford me! > innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. > Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed > netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to > merit further review. I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst going to take a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will be in operation. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 862 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Okay, thanks Boyd! Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would not be tying the knot by any chance? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 863 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/02/93 11:46p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well whatever rate, if it doesnt include Canada, they're rather USEless > > and to think one of my bbs's callers uploaded me a weather pic of the > northern hemisphere not much more than a week ago..wonder where he's > getting his :) > Cheers, Ken Probably wefax. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 864 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45a Subj: Routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Sure there is, if John won't route it to begin with. Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: Lemme jump into the foray here ... BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) BG> going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ... and see if I confuse things more. How does a netmail message from one system get routed to another? Well, it goes to the originating system's uplink, from there to his uplink, then to that system's uplink and so on up the chain until it hits a system with a routing control definition for the destination system. Then it travels a similiar path in reverse until it arrives on the destination system. This may involve 2 systems, or 20 or more; the exact routing is unpredictable and requires each intermediate system to know where to route netmail -- there are a lot of people (and personalities!) involved and some aren't too quick on changing things so it's quite possible for netmail to get deleted or end up batted around in a routing loop between a few systems. The key to all this is the destination address of the message, not the originating address, not the intermediate routing points, and definately not any AKAs such as 3615/51. There are no guarantees routing netmail; nets have better chances than independants as the NC will end up with the message and is obliged by policy to handle it. Ok, so where does that leave PlanetConnect subscribers? I don't know what PC's plans are, whether they plan catering to more than just the FIDOnet community or whatever, but in reference to routing netmail (FIDO netmail, that is) there is no reason Boyd cannot hold netmail for PC subscribers at 3615/50. (Sending it across the bird I don't find attractive at all -- that would create some serious loops: as example anything routed through here not destined for any of my downlinks gets routed out; I serve as a regional hub in R19. It'll end up back on 396/1, where it'll pass along to Boyd, who puts it in the air, back to me, along to 396/1 ... ) Getting stuff routed into 3615/50 for subscribers is the catch, however. Basically what it boils down to is this: John Souveste needs send any routed netmail that hits his system destined to a PlanetConnect subscriber, through 3615/50. This means JS has to be kept current on subscribers to update his routing (let's not forget he has some major routing tasks already involving all the nets and independants that get their mail via his system) and since PlanetConnect is a commercial enterprise the "FIDO-legality" of routing netmail through it is debatable anyway. John may not wish to be involved with the "commercialization" of FIDOnet or whatever. I do not know if this is his reason nor do I presume to speak for John. A solution? Technically it's quite possible IF John can be convinced. Right now a one-way routing is possible from 3615/50 to 396/1. Everyone is welcome to route their netmail through my system, but I cannot guarantee delivery. (Any tracking responses might not make it back too as I route anything that isn't destined for anyone feeding out of here!) If a subscriber isn't local to a net that can handle inbound netmail, arrange for a regional feed with the local RC and set up a polling schedule with him or one of his RHubs -- an RC carries some clout and can arrange routing. An alternate idea is to establish a seperate zone for subscribers who aren't local to a net and use 3615/50 as the gateway. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 865 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:45p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: BG> Why is this? because the reply would follow the BG> route back that would put the message on the hub that is in BG> the network. Not always true. Depends on who's doing the routing. If I receive mail for an R19 independant who doesn't poll here, I send it directly to RC19. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 866 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:50p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Dave Osborne: BG> But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they BG> were send all over the universe. GMD responses are netmail. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER but NEVER put netmail on the bird as it will get bounced and routed by everyone who receives it and routes netmail. In 3615/50's routing definitions, HOLD a subscriber's mail and ROUTE through him his downlink's mail so he can collect any netmail when he delivers any echomail responses. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 867 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:10a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > First... Can I join your net? My net fell apart... we lost our > feed and the sysop of the local hub went on vacation and his Have to check with my hub on that. > system hasn't answered the phone in over a week. He is > discouraged that about 1/3 of his feeds have dropped out and > connected to PC and stopped helping pay the long distance phone > bill. He is a good guy but just isn't ready to accept this > technology. I am sorry to hear about that. > Second... if you put netmail on hold so that we picked it up > when we polled you with reply mail it would not be sent by > satellite and we should be able to get only the mail intended. Well from what every tells me the star system will have to set up each node that I have to allow returned mail to be routed to me. I am under no obligation to forward yours or anyones routed netmail. > "normal" means like I did before I joined PC and it is simply > not possible to teach everyone in fido land that crash netmail is > the only solution to contact me. I guess things in fidonet will have to change. >> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the >> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not >> work. I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be sent back into landbased fidonet. > Let me join your net and then do whatever you are doing for your > "normal" non satellite feeds. How do they get their routed > netmail? I don't see it coming in over the satellite. Dont have any "normal" non satellite feeds. I call my hub once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 868 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:15a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the > routed netmail from John on hold for the node to pick up when we This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from john unless he would have every address of every system that drops off mail to me. > You probably only have to give John a list of the nodes you > supply mail to so that he can send their routed net mail to you. I would think that his routing file is big enough as it is. > If he can't do that then we need to get a new node number so > that he can. I'll change node numbers today if it will fix this > problem. I can no longer get my routed netmail anyway so this > node number I have now is practically useless. This is where changes within the fidonet structure will have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee this happening anytime in the near furture. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 869 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:18a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 > ... > BG> It would not go thru 396/1. > I don't understand those two statements. They appear > contradictory to me. Here I route a netmail message to 1:245/89 lets say and I route it through 1:396/1. When 245/89 replies via routed mail, right now, as it stands, I would have to call 3615/1 to pick up that reply. I cant put it any simpler. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 870 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:19a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Maybe you accidentally found a new way to contact God. Working on it! ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 871 To: RICK MORRIS Date: 12/03/93 12:20a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a > clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the > *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not > something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Thank you for the clearification. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 872 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/03/93 12:23a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your > first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and > day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. > later dude and keep up the good work. Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 873 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/03/93 12:25a Subj: Re: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd ! > How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? > Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any day now. Also a sports online magazine. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 874 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/03/93 12:28a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if John wants to reply, the message gets addressed to 141/1135 and > will go to the system *he* has set up to forward to, 141/1 for example > who forwards it to 141/1240 who forwards it to 141/1130 who fowards it to > me at 141/1135. He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement too , wouldn't he? > I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail > to prevent someone from dumping both netmail and bogus Echo mail on your > system. especially since with your setup, you can't run secure. We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be able to drop anything off. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 875 To: GARY BERG Date: 12/03/93 12:29a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >> GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. > Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) Ha!!!!!!!!!!!! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 876 To: JEFF WALLACH Date: 12/03/93 12:30a Subj: Re: DRIG package requested Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Would you PLEASE look for our package and send out: > 1 Ku Band install viedo tape > 2 Updated software It is being sent. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 877 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/03/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more times.......... ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 878 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/03/93 12:33a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas > already, so it isn't a problem. Got that worked out. Seems a lot of systems like to send me there local areas and we I dont mind reading the R18SYSOP echo but it is just for of politics and such. I am still getting messages from the BITCH echo and it is not in either of the FIDONET.N* files! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 879 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:38a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't > allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) I believe you! But John's routing file would be enormous, not to mention how enormous it is now. > Don't say it can't be done. It already is. I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will give it another try. But nobody better start complaining if they happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up in thier netmail area. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 880 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:39a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) It was sent out yesterday. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 881 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Say hello to Veger:-) Who's Veger? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 882 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the > users to view them online. > Joe We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 883 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/03/93 12:42a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > any clues...dv was disastrous...3 meg survived after 6 hours .. > out of dv got another 7 meg... Do you have a 16550 on that port and did you add the SKYFIFO=True statement to the INI file? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 884 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 12:45a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, > but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone > local that knows how to do this. Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. Wonder if he would do that. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 885 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/01/93 10:29p Subj: WHATCHA USING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any > problems? Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I'm getting perfect reception. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 886 To: PCUSENET GUYS Date: 12/02/93 8:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORMAND MARINEAU Number: 887 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 6:38a Subj: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I receive correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia and I bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network ??? Thanks --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff015/b] * Origin: Innovatron, St-Boniface, QC (819)535-9072 (1:167/420) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 888 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/02/93 7:45a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, -> > there workarounds? Thanks. -> -> Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe y -> problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? -> -> Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. T -> or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if Ku, any problems? --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 889 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 27, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Tim Dowell: Hello Boyd. BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG> by the star system I call. I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. :-) Enjoy! John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 890 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:55p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 28, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to Floyd Drennon: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It travels the same route that it always did. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 891 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> Somehow I have to find the star that is TB> sending it my old route and have them route it to 3615/50 TB> and have PC put it on hold for me. I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be able to get it from there. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 892 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 12:02a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Jim Watson: > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one BG> routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Correct. I don't route any netmail to you, but you are more than welcome to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 893 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:06a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 01, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.2 wrote to Boyd Goodin: DO> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system DO> that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC (including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CHAMBERS Number: 894 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Thank you, GeeCee/2 --- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 * Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 895 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:56p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Craig Clark <=- TB> That is not possible unless Ptccmain changes its method of TB> moving the incoming file. Since some systems/hard drives are TB> very slow when they have to physically move the data it is a big TB> problem to guess how long the delay between files should be. If TB> a slow system is still moving a file when the next file starts TB> coming it would loose the data from the beginning of the TB> incoming file. Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of transmission of that file. The same could be done for other drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at the end of a transfer. Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch files after PTCCMAIN terminates. -=- Craig. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 896 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 12/01/93 7:59p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Miller to Craig Clark <=- DM> Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. DM> This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial DM> distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different DM> drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future DM> upgrade of the software? See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to look for it again just out of curiousity. -=- Craig. ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 897 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 10:43a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> On the other side. If someone sends something to me, DO> it's routed via their links to John. John has a DO> routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get DO> it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! DO> Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their routing too. And then many nets probably too. When new people come online with PC it'd have to change each time. And then everyone on PC needs to make a list of who they feed so everyone knows. I see it as a large production to get set up correctly for everyone and not have things go into black holes. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 898 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/01/93 9:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! Monday November 29 1993, Dan Williamson writes to Jeff Ward: > Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: JW>> What about the .BAG files, does it hanlde them as well? JW>> SOunds like a nifty little program. Do you have it fro Freq? JW>> Later! > Handles them fine. See my note in PCSITES. Available as FRED19Q.ARJ here or > from a site closer to you (maybe). Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 899 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 9:28p Subj: Internet TimeTable Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Jeff Ward: > I've not heard any dates that it WILL begin, but I've heard that it will > NOT be in full force until after New Year's. Don't know if that info is > still current or if it has been adjusted up or down. Rely on Boyd for > definite answers to those. Thanks for the reply. I'll be looking for the start date... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 900 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/01/93 9:29p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Monday November 29 1993, Mike Labbe writes to Jeff Ward: > Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! Yep, same here. I did get a single grunged netmail message, but nothing else so far! > PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance > of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could > be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which > would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... I myself really don't have a problem with the system. Most of the nodes polling my system poll in the early morning hours. Since they were already accustomed to all their mail being on hold status at the hub, they are happy with the service they are getting. I have actually had one or two of them remark as to how fast the turn around was in some echos! So, with the mail run starting about 7:30am, I usually can have the bulk of the mail out bundled and ready to go by lunch. So far so good! Later! Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 901 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 7:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ed Marquis to Jim Dunmyer <=- EM> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap EM> A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a EM> bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that EM> would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the EM> different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get EM> it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a EM> driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if EM> you used all Pioneer 604x drives. If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's online at one time. I know of some sysops using this method to get more than a 100 CD-ROM's online simultaneously. With Lantastic try this: NET USE D: \\SERVER1 This is assuming you are not already using drive D:; use a different letter if you are. Note that there is no resource specified after the server name as there usually is. When you change to drive D: after doing this mapping, you will see what looks like the control directory (\LANTASTI.NET), except that inside each subdirectory you will have an entire disk (HD, CD-ROM, WORM, whatever). Try it - it may surprise you. It may also be quite usefull to you. -=- Craig. ... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993 --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 902 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:23p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) or you have overlooked the -> reality that the "for sale" conferences make up about 25% of the -> volume of mail we transfer. I did not say that I was using -> Fidonet for a commercial enterprise... that was your assumption. An assumption based on your wording.... "missed some business opportunities". -> I may have been trying to sell off old equipment left over from -> a recent upgrade. If you have never upgraded and sold off your If that were the case, it wouldn't be business opportunities. "Business" implies the operating of a business, which is covered in Policy 4 to wit: 1.3.6 Commercial Use FidoNet is an amateur network. Participants spend their own time and money to make it work for the good of all the users. It is not appropriate for commercial enterprise to take advantage of these volunteer efforts to further their own business interests. On the other hand, FidoNet provides a convenient and effective means for companies and users to exchange information, to the mutual benefit of all. Network Coordinators could be forced to subsidize commercial operations forwarding host-routed netmail, and could even find themselves involved in a lawsuit if any guarantee was suggested for mail delivery. It is therefor FidoNet policy is that commercial mail is not to be routed. "Commercial mail includes mail which furthers specific business interests without being of benefit to the net as a whole. Examples include company-internal mail, inter-corporate mail, specific product inquiries (price quotes, for instance), orders and their follow-ups, and all other subjects specifical related to business. Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment that you personally own, then that is not conducting "business". However, from the wording you used, you implied differently. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 903 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 3:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's -> in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets v -> there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. BIG DIFFERENCE!! The difference being this. In the routing statements, routing to an entire net is a single line entry. Routing to specific nodes in a net requires an entry for each node. In a net of 50 nodes, assuming 25 nodes are feed by a PC site, and 25 nodes are not, It would require a 50 line routing statement for both John and Boyd. Since in many cases, not all nodes in a particular net are connected through PC, it creates a problem with routed netmail. PC is NOT the same as an REC. In our Region (Region 11) there are over 1,000 nodes. Some connect through PC, some do not. Keeping track of which do and don't would be a nightmare, not to mention the routing statements that would need to be changed each time a new node is added/deleted from the nodelist. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 904 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/02/93 3:44p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Route to 123/301 for 123/all -> Route to 133/16 for 133/all -> . -> . -> . -> Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY -> Route to 369/1 for OTHERS -> -> OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. What about individual nodes that are connected to PC......what about nets that have a portion of the nodes being feed by a PC site, others being feed by land-line connections.....what about nets that have several PC sites.....what about.....what about.....ad nauseum....... The routing is simply to complicated to be handled in a manner that is feasible. An old adage in Fidonet is this: If it's important, send it direct, if it isn't route it. Routed netmail requires the consent of ALL nodes in the routing chain. If one doesn't consent, the routing fails. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 905 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 6:44p Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > during the satellite software? John, I've seen this question asked before, and here's my feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is doing nothing else, of course. However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. That could potentially cause as many or more problems than it'd solve, of course..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 906 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 3:06p Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> Yes. In order for Ptccmain to move the file fast enough to pick up -> the next incoming file it uses a process that simply rewrites the -> file allocation table. This process does not work across drives -> since one drive may be on a different hard disk or a ram drive -> altogether. I'm running PTCCMAIN perfect as a user under a Novell system which doesn't have a File Allocation Table available to the logged in user. Saved my bacon many times running ill-behaved or delinquent programs. Just wondering how your proposed file move works. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 907 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 3:41a Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) He said routed *NETMAIL* not echo mail. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 908 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/03/93 3:50a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require -> > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough -> > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under -> > Lantastic.... -> -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap -> to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pio -> drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirec -> under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 909 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/03/93 9:12a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for > the > purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Take care! Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 910 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 9:44p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Frank Scheel: FS> I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed FS> write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It FS> does stop the write to the hard drive every second. TB> Would you post those hyperdisk parameters you are using? TB> I'll check the docs in the meantime. Device=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\HYPERDKX.EXE c:1024 s t:2 m:3 Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 911 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 9:21p Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and -> B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the -> Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as -> subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. -> I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You -> could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I -> could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's -> searchable and accessible at once. Sign me up too! have two DRM-600's here with Novell and am out of letters. Using Map Assist, which has a 10 drive limit. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 912 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 8:01p Subj: New BBS in town... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOHN LUNDELL wrote in a message to All: JL> 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually JL> being used during the satellite software? I hear a disk cache helps but I haven't got mine set up correctly yet. JL> thinking... a ramdrive would be nice for the temporary JL> file.. but you can't set that can you? No. The method of moving the inbound file from the temp file rewrites the file allocation table and does not physically move the data. JL> 4. Why does FIDOnet have so many people addressing messages JL> to SYSOP? They want your attention :) JL> I get all these messages each day flagged as JL> waiting for me only to find that they are from some user to JL> their sysop on some other BBS.. RIMEnet and others don't JL> tollerate that... Use your real name on your bbs. JL> 5. Way up here I am getting snow and ice buildup on my JL> dish.. it doesn't appear to affect the signal much, but I JL> can see during a bad storm the thing getting heavy and JL> moving offline.. can one get something to take care of that? Yes... your wife get the broom and go out and sweep it off. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 913 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 10:58a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have BG> on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route BG> netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be BG> sent back into landbased fidonet. That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business would not have grown as fast. BG> I call my hub BG> once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my BG> netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able do. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 914 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:05a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from BG> john unless he would have every address of every system that BG> drops off mail to me. My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the problem. BG> This is where changes within the fidonet structure will BG> have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee BG> this happening anytime in the near furture. Sorry to hear that. But I understand because I have experienced the lack of support in a similar manner in my local net. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 915 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:11a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. JS> It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It JS> travels the same route that it always did. The problem is that the entire fidonet "system" is always in flux. One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day a bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage the changes. When there are no changes in key positions everything works smoothly but when nodes that distribute mail decide to shut down everyone below them has to go on a "hunting" mission to get a new feed. If routed netmail was on hold (to pick up) at the _same_ system (node) we call to _RETURN_ our reply mail the confusion and maintenance would be less and the reliability would be improved. Ps. Don't route a netmail reply... I probably won't get it. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 916 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:19a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up JS> routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. JS> Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be JS> able to get it from there. Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 917 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 11:22a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: CC> Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to CC> have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config CC> file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: CC> configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then CC> PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. CC> When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data CC> would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of CC> transmission of that file. The same could be done for other CC> drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at CC> the end of a transfer. CC> Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for CC> PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch CC> files after PTCCMAIN terminates. This is an excellent idea especially if the mail bundles (0000FFFF.?) could have their own separate directory by themselves. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 918 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/03/93 11:26a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HANS HOOGSTRAAT wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like this: {$i-} Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); {$i+} If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you were not currently on the same drive. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 919 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment MB> that you personally own, then that is not conducting MB> "business". This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY CASSETTY Number: 920 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 7:39a Subj: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks >> like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into >> this ? > Problem has been found and is being taken care off. > ...Boyd Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 ...Barry --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Dandy Line BBS "Have Shack Will YaK" Music City U S A (1:116/4000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 921 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 8:44p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gary! GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, th GC> net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Here's typing to you from Mobile, AL....! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ..E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 922 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 8:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry! > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the Why not just route it through Richard Wallen, our local NC? I have had good success doing it that way...Just a thought... ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Authenticity of stolen taglines is not guaranteed. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 923 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 4:34p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 > in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina > would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to > us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off > mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I > would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle > from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 > systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who needed to file-request what they missed. These 10 could also be a perfect backup in case anything were to happen to the satellite uplink itself. If these 10 sites had ISDN in place, they could come in via the backdoor with ISDN and not worry about busy signals on the other lines. (this would be extremely important in the case of a system failure). I know of 3 other sites besides mine that have ISDN and have large enough systems to serve as backup and also have the expertise to act as a HUB. > Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on > the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects > of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the > computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the > ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. That's Overholt.......... Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 924 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/03/93 5:01p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PCUTIL is a great program and does a good job of what it was written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it comes to a bundle that is missing? I'd rather wait till that bundle shows up than to toss my mail out of sequence. If you'd like a beta tester to try this out, I'd be glad to volunteer. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 925 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/03/93 9:26a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If > Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if > Ku, any problems? I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 926 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 6:56p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Wednesday December 01 1993 23:00, Mike Labbe wrote to All: ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours ML> per day on a 486). I'm using FMAIL and it takes about an hour (I'm feeding about 15 nodes). Most of the time is to zip up the out going packets. I'm only running a 386SX with 4mg memory on a peer to peer network. I still use DB to answer the phone and to send the packets but it was TOOOO slow to toss that much mail. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 927 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 9:43p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... > > Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) If you would route for one net, you'd have to route for them all. As it stands now, each net should have a regional feed, but I can understand his want to eliminate one of his long distance polls. And on that note, would it still be extensive modifications to your route configs if you agreed to route whole nets' netmail? I don't run the complicated software that you do so it will probably be something more complex than the simple stuff we encounter daily. BTW, I pick up net 3807's mail from 1:147/7 (in case you have any messages that have been getting stranded and deleted). I got a call in to John now 'cause I'm curious why the R19COORD echo hasn't had a message in it for about 2 months. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 928 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 9:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the > satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to alt.bbs alt.internet alt.bbs.ads alt.bbs.allsysop alt.bbs.doors alt.bbs.internet alt.bbs.lists alt.bbs.metal alt.bbs.pcboard alt.bbs.pcbuucp alt.bbs.unixbbs alt.bbs.uupcb alt.internet alt.internet.services comp comp.bbs comp.bbs.misc comp.bbs.waffle comp.org comp.org.fidonet This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last Sunday. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 929 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 10:38p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In CC> regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. CC> I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't CC> recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several CC> hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to CC> look for it again just out of curiousity. CC> -=- Craig. It is there as a comment at the begining of the ACONFIG.SKY file. -=- Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 930 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/04/93 12:00a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Lundell, Jim Dunmyer said: > > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > > during the satellite software? > John, > I've seen this question asked before, and here's my > feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it > arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already > over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is > doing nothing else, of course. > > However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of > SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary > file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. > That could potentially cause as many or more problems than > it'd solve, of course..... Yep, totaly agree here... I have however been able to slow the writes down a touch by using an 8k fossil and a write cashe. It now only writes to the drive about every 8-15 blocks, with no data loss or bad results on the 286-16 that I use for PC only. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 931 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:12a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/03/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in BG> > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the BG> > users to view them online. BG> > Joe BG> BG> We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a program name to convert them. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 932 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 5:54p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, have a quick question and observation for you re: TVAGENT. Finally decided to take a look at the tv listings to see what they included, looked like, etc.. only to find that TVAGENT has to be run on the machine that has the dongle and actually runs Ptccmain. Further, the listings themselves are encrypted and can't be listed or viewed with anything but TVAGENT. With no offense to you or PC intended, what kind of a moron is going to interrupt his/her satellite transmissions to view a tv listing? I understand that you don't wish TVAGENT or the listings themselves to be distributed or used by other than the PC subscribers, but what of us who have multiple machines operating across a network? Or what of those folks who run PC as an event from their BBS on a single machine? I think such an action not only limits the usefulness of the listings but somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with regards to TVAGENT? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 933 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/03/93 8:19a Subj: RE: THINGS... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of > mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Don't worry about it, Glenn. I've been handling mail here since 1988, starting with CONFMAIL, later using Qmail. The HD thrashes for a couple of hours at a time, and I've yet to actually wear one out, usually outgrow it first. Same thing with my BBS; with all 7 lines going, the HD light looks like it's being defragged, not just servicing the lines. And, I've never worn out a drive there, either. If your drive goes belly-up while processsing all that mail, it just means that it was time anyway, and with drives now below a buck/meg, it shouldn't kill you to replace it. Especially if it's truly "old" as you indicate above. Heck, I took an ST-4096 off the BBS after a year or so, processed mail on it for about 3 or 4 years, then sold it to a guy who is STILL using it. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 934 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:24p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:06:40>, John Souvestre (1:396/1) writes: JS>Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to JS>me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC JS>(including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and JS>they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Yeh, this is true. I guess I keep thinking in a net configuration as that's what I deal with. It's hard enough to keep up with net routing, but as Boyd has to deal with individual nodes..... Still, I wonder how many whole nets he's feeding via NECs or hub level downlinks. Like for Net 123, you could shove the whole thing through Boyd instead of Emery.... Is something like that realistic? Feeding whole nets only. Still I gotta hit Emery anyway for regional stuff. JS>Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would JS>be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. What would change (for whole nets that is) except on your end? Well, it was a thought. :-) D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 935 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:35p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:23:23>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG> Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a BG>doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. That's a fact! Patients aren't near as demanding as Sysops! --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 936 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:42p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:38:15>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG>I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the BG>moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will BG>give it another try. Understand, I can see John's problem. Hadn't thought about all the individual nodes you probably have to deal with. Still for those of us that are feeding whole nets it would be worthwhile, but there are other routes. He he, John still has to deal with us in that regard. BG>But nobody better start complaining if they BG>happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up BG>in thier netmail area. WHAT!?! Us complain?? Never.... D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 937 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:40p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:39:14>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG>> You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) BG> BG> It was sent out yesterday. May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! Thanks! D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 938 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 9:32p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What you need is KillerDOG and run this after Tossing and before packing > netmail. > > KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message Oh, okay, Ervin, thanks for the info. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 939 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:34p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think > I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, You mean you don't want to read/distribute the contents of our local whips-n-chains echoes? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 940 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:38p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and > while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a > wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would > not be tying the knot by any chance? Hmmm, just checked our configurations here, Boyd, but it doesn't appear that they're coming from us. Sounds like our R19SYSOP echo judging by the contents you mentioned and yes, Remus and I are planning to get married sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake Party. Heck, you could call it PR and join us for the wedding, Boyd, tentatively to be held at Lake Somerville down near College Station, TX in Aggieland. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 941 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, > that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Just when you thought it was safe to... whoops, wrong line. Yes, it's safe to assume that, Gary. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 942 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/04/93 11:34a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I'm just 60 miles south of you (Fargo, ND) and build up hasn't been a -> problem yet and it would have been last week, if ever. I do like the block -> heater idea. They are available as large magnets that heat whatever they are -> stuck too. wow! I (pardon this) was not aware that there were any decent BBS's in Fargo .. we have soooo many guys in Fargo calling us and subscribing to our system .. I'll have to start letting them know your there so they can save a few LD pennies. What does your BBS have (down there )? Besides what the sat. is now bringing us we're at 10+ gigs and 4 nodes (soon 10)... not too bad for such a small town. As for running the sat software I'm shelling out of PCBoard for now to an event that runs it twice (just in case) then goes back to the BBS... until I get more nodes I can't afford to lose one as we're extremely busy with just 4. Anyway, thanks for the reply - I was starting to think the message did not get out . -> I'm surprised you got independent node status. When I tried initially up -> here, I got forced into the 288 net. John must be getting soft, but then -> again he gave me a full feed. Nice guy. ya I've been on FIDOnet here for 3 years now, but not very active. All of us here in Grand Forks are in the 1:14/6xx range of addresses ... I really never concerned myself much with how I got it and what it means ... Since I just joined this conference (and don't want to feel stupid more than once) who is this John person you refer to? I see his name all over the place.. the only one I am familiar with at this time is Boyd. Glad to hear from you way down there in Fargo hehehe.. I'll have to call your BBS and check you out... ttyl --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 943 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 2:39p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I -> need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your -> batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. I don't know, I had a few test groups come through a week ago, but none since then.. I've been waiting for that service too... I'm also waiting for RIME and ILink... both are supposedly to be online soon, but haven't heard much about either.. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALLAS HINTON Number: 944 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 1:29p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd -- on Dec 02 1993 at 23:42, you wrote: BG> One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US BG> and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each BG> reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call BG> directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 BG> systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem BG> with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up BG> and routing would be handle from each system to mine then BG> routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh BG> well, I can dream though can't I? You know, we have such a scheme already in place -- called the Regional Echo Coordinator! :-) You might consider getting them to help you set up such a method? I'd start with Adrian Walker, 153/752 -- he seems to be willing to spend time organizing and sorting out, AND he's good at it! :-) Cheers ... Dallas RC 17 :-) --- * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver BC, CANADA [604-266-7754] (1:153/715) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 945 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/03/93 11:32p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Sarkutis Uranus: Hello Todd! TL> Check your ACONFIG.SKY. It should be very similar to this: thanks for your rulebase list..i havent seen mention other than from your message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 03 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 946 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 1:05p Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd!!! Just wanted to let you and everyone else know that 107/33 went live on the "bird" at 4am on 12/1/93. In addition, 107/33 has been granted RHUB status in Region 13. The node number will be 13/24. I have a bit more work to do before I can start picking up links. And, I need another phone line run in. To that end, I'll be ordering a new Hayes 28.8 modem so as to increase land line speed. I also wanted to thank you and your staff for helping me out during the setup phase. I never did resolve the error I was having with the PC software not always seeing the printer port. The only way to solve that turned out to be a motherboard change. When I switched from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Well, that's about it. Looking forward to talking to ya!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 947 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/04/93 1:55p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* -> hours per day on a 486). Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. It did about a weeks worth of Fido mail in about 3 hours.. Ralph --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 948 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/04/93 12:46p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.8 wrote to John Souvestre: DO> Still, I wonder how many whole nets he's feeding via NECs or hub DO> level downlinks. Like for Net 123, you could shove the whole DO> thing through Boyd instead of Emery.... Is something like that DO> realistic? Feeding whole nets only. Yes, but it's not trivial. :-) DO> What would change (for whole nets that is) except on your end? Everyone else who routed for that Net (the Zone Hubs and the Region Hubs in that region) would also have to change their routing, along with Boyd. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 949 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 7:34p Subj: List of File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Could you post a listing of all the file areas that are comming down of the bird?? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HIRAM BEMBRY Number: 950 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/04/93 2:20a Subj: Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> Say hello to Veger:-) BG> Who's Veger? Star Trek the Movie.....RIGHT!!!!!!!!! But I believe it's Vger. þ QMPro 1.50 74-7536 þ 1 Minute Shut Mouth Worth 1 Hour Explanation --- RBBSMail v18.2 * Origin: Way Station BBS, Tifton GA (1:3645/100.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 951 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/04/93 1:28p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , John Lyon of 1:2380/400 writes: JL> your JL> startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive JL> letter JL> and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? What's the command???? --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 952 To: KYLE HEARN Date: 12/04/93 4:52p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KH> Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill KH> Wolf: KH> MF> Bill, KH> MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT KH> MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. KH> MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & KH> MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. KH> MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. KH> How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle, I thought everyone knew that hard drives only come in one size.....TOO SMALL!!! I'm running a 180meg drive on the PC system. That machine only runs a mail only board and Planet Connect, so 180meg has been enough thus far. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 953 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/04/93 7:36a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in > your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive > letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? It might help. I'd be interested to see what you've got at any rate. Thanks, Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 954 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/04/93 7:40a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical > drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter > each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using > this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's > online at one time. I like it but unfortunately I'm running Netware Lite. I may have to check out Lantastic now! Thanks for the info. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 955 To: ALL Date: 12/04/93 1:18p Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if we plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? Or do we do it just out of common curtesy? How is everyone else treating this? Thanks Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 956 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/04/93 8:13p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop JD> tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it JD> comes to a bundle that is missing? Sure could, BUT the boys at PC have been known to miss a file now and then, would be kind of dangerous to do because you could be waiting a whole week for that file to come in. ;-) And I think there are a few sysops that would linch me if I made the program do it. John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 957 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 8:22p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to John Souvestre: TB> One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day TB> a TB> bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage TB> the TB> changes. Right, and the Zone and Region Hubs could simply not keep up with all the changes necessary to route to the individual nodes. You need to work out your problem within your Net. If you can't then appeal to the next level above. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 958 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/04/93 11:00p Subj: .NO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to John Souvestre: GC> How much of a problem would it be to put the CAN_MILITARY GC> conference into the .no file so it could get onto the sat. Sorry. GC> I know the moderator is in the process of applying for bb status GC> tho. Good. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 959 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/01/93 12:53a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This sounds too simple... what am I missing...... :-) Stop and think. Outbound Netmail should be a peach. But Inbound. Uh-uh. Where you used to have Route-To 1:249/1 1:249/ALL you now run into Route-To 1:249/1 1:249/AL Except 1:249/304 300 301 302 303 305 306 307 308 309 201 ad nauseam. And the worst of it is, EVERY system in the NET above the level of simple node has to do this. Can you imagine the logistics of this........ We re-negotiated our participation in the 249 CRP due to us being LD to the rest of the 249 net. We pay a vastly reduced fee as a subnet for routed netmail and some local/regional conferences. And to reduce the possibility of accidents, we are running split hubs. I hub all the Satellite stuff, the other guy handles routed netmail and local/regional non-satellite stuff. Now if I could just persuade Squish to quit grunging everybody elses packets we would be all set..... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: The Viking's Cove, Trenton ON (613)394-5919 (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 960 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:29a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) BG> BG> Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more BG> times.......... I'm wondering how accurate they are. Yesterday the map said that we weren't supposed to get any snow, and it snowed last night. The maps never were updated every two hours, so it there was a change in forecast we didn't know. BTW, weather is one of my specialties. --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 961 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/04/93 12:12p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! 01 Dec 93, Ervin Jay writes to Dennis Powers: EJ> Hello Dennis! EJ> Tuesday November 30 1993, Dennis Powers writes to John Burton: JB>>> to move the .?LO file, you'll see that TICK will then delete the JB>>> passthru file, leaving the .TIC only... DP>> IN i:\inbound\ DP>> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees DP>> ZONE 8 i:\outbound.008\ <===== the actual outbounds are on drive DP>> hold j:\netmail\tickhold\ <===== This is where Tick writes the DP>> *.Tic & EJ> But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from seeing EJ> the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in I:\Outbound\, and EJ> seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs from deleting the PT's EJ> and the Passthru Files. It will simply assume that everyone has already EJ> picked them up, since there are no FLO files remaining. Never had the problem here....hmmm.. I only run tick once a day here and I guess I've been lucky that I get all passthru files delivered prior to it's next run.... This is going to take some thought. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 962 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 12:16p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 02 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Floyd Drennon: BG> also find time for a life. ;-) While running a BBS ? Can't happen [ROFL]!! -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 963 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 12:41p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 03 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Dennis Powers: BG> He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement BG> too , wouldn't he? If He was to route return mail through you. But the return doesn't necessarly have to follow the same path, and shouldn't be returned through you. What he would need (and most likely already has) would be the routing for the net's. eg: Route 1:141/All 151/All ..... and so on... It _can_ be done but I agree with you that the first priority is the have the echo mail flowing smoothly. What everyone must remember is that no one is *required* to route outbound netmail that they didn't agree to. If it's important send it CRASH. >> I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail BG> We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be I haven't checked my netmail yet but... I assume you have sent notifications to each node informing us what they are :). Keep up the good work. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 964 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/04/93 1:42p Subj: Size Of Squish Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! Tuesday November 30 1993, Glenn Vermette writes to Ervin Jay: EJ>> DOS sizemail -cD:\Bink\sizemail.cfg GV> Could you elaborte on this a bit more? I have several downlinks that GV> intake between 2 and 3.5 megs per day, and the way I have it set up right GV> now, it just keeps adding and adding to the bundle until the next day GV> comes. So I have a 3.5 meg bundle of mail. I'd like to put these in 500K GV> or so bundles...but I can't seem to figure out how it is done. Not to GV> mention as my inbound daily dump arrives it takes longer and longer to add GV> to bundles that grow bigger and bigger. Well, SIZEMAIL is a program that is needs to be run each time Squish drops out to pack out going packets. This is accomplished by running it from your Squish ROUTE.CFG using the `DOS' verb as structured above. This creates a ???.TMP directory off of the directory containing you normal Outbound. if your normal outbounf is D:\Bink\Outbound\Out sizemail will put the bundles it finds into a dir called D:\Bink\Outbound\Out.TMP. If the Bundle is equal to or larger than the defined size (on a nodexnode basis) in its config file, it moves the bunde to this .TMP dir, truncating the original so Squish can increment the extension counter. Sizemail also correts the FLO file entry to point to this bundle in the .TMP directory and changes the # (tuncate flag) to ^ (delete flag). Squish tosses more mail, archiving into a new bundle facilitated by the previously truncated one, premitting it to increment the digit. Another good one that works very well albeit a bit differently than Sizemail is COPYMAIL, but is run in exactly the same manner, from ROUTE.CFG using the `DOS' verb. You would point Squish to an outbound area totally different from the one Binkley sees. Every time Squish archives mail it creates an .??0 bundle. Then CopyMail is run which looks in its control file and copy appends the new Bundle and .?LO file to that already in your Bink outbound. (if the resultant file would be larger then MaxSize the new bundle is split 'tween the prev and a new one) In this case it is CopyMail that is incrementing the Bundle Digit, and it obeys Bink .BSY flags. If a node is "on line" it can be setup to WAIT till they are gone or skip and catch it next time. WAIT, draw back, the system is waiting, doing nothing Catch it Next time, draw back, the bundle Another nice util for busy Hubs is called AutoMail. With this one all mail going to downlinks is created as HOLD. The Automail.CTL file contains a list of the Nodes you wish to control as well as a Size. Then, after all mail is processed, and if the mail for a given node is equal to or greater in size than specified in the control file, it is changed from HOLD to CRASH. I like thiks one as it stops my system from calling out multiple times a day to deliver 1k bundles... :)) If they want it more often, they can poll for it, other wise it stays on hold 'till it reaches 50k File: AUTOMAIL.ZIP 26,063 04-15-91 Desc: AUTOmail v1.0, Holds mail till enough to call out File: CPML-122.ZIP 31,210 09-15-93 Desc: COPYMAIL is used in MTask/Lan Env, Mail is Copied, under control, from Processing Dir to Outbound File: SIZMAIL2.ZIP 18,719 12-31-90 Desc: Control Arcmail Bundle Sizes This one is written by one of the Hubs here in 153 and allows you to move mail into your processing directory xbytes at a time if you do not want to unarchive 8.5 megs of bundles all at once :)) There was another util I tried to use, but it moved the files at random, this one always moves the oldest first and exits with varying errorlevels allowing you to take appropriate action on finding a bundle that was to large etc etc..... File: PUNTMAIL.ZIP 5,030 10-27-93 Desc: Move Files/Mail (Oldest First) xxxx Bytes at a time Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 965 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:20p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday December 03 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Ervin Jay: >> If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, >> but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone >> local that knows how to do this. BG> Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed BG> so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put BG> it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes BG> receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. BG> Wonder if he would do that. No, you would route all netmail arriving at 3615/50 to 396/1 who in turn would route to whatever the normal methods would be, if not via an echomail chain, then via the *C chain. The nets/nodes dropping off echomail to 3615/50 could then drop off their outgoing routed netmail which would get routed onwards. They would have to make other arrangements for inbound netmail, but the *C chain was doing the routed netmail thing l-o-n-g before the echo jockeys provided the service. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 966 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/04/93 11:46a Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Guy VanDell: TL> This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have TL> stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last TL> Sunday. Perhaps hen things start flowing we can ask boyd to post an ACTIVE file or a NEWSRC file to the datastream for us to use in configuring the usenet feed? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 967 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/04/93 4:50p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <02 Dec 93 10:43:22>, Keith Sippy (1:283/121) writes: KS>What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their KS>routing too. Point is takin. It's just too complicated. I can understand what John was talking about. Oh well. D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 968 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/04/93 7:44p Subj: Re: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able > to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the > motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages > to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. I am using the Ku with the "better" LNB. I have had only a few weather related problems...VERY hard rain makes the signal go away, but what the hay, the files and mail are sent over and over, so I get them when it lets up. As I write this, it is raining and the wind is gusting to 47 MPH and I have had no errors since around 10am (it is now about 8pm). Tom --- Opus-CBCS 1.14 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery Al (205)-279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 969 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 12/05/93 5:25p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. It did about a -> weeks worth of Fido mail in about 3 hours.. Are you able to feed others with this product, and will it work on multi-nodes? I'm looking to get rid of DBRIDGE, which is falling too far behind in the times to be practical. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 970 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/05/93 9:37p Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm certain we have lots more fun ahead. Great... Thats why I am here and keep doing the *C things.... BTW, Thanks for all your hard work and continued dedication to our hobby. Many times efforts such as yours go un-noticed... Randy *ASTRO* BBS --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 971 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:39p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and > also find time for a life. ;-) Sorry Boyd, you need to choose. Sysop or a Life. You choose. :>) Randy *ASTRO* BBS Ft. Myers, FL --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 972 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:43p Subj: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any > day now. Also a sports online magazine. Cool. I am good friends with Craig and I use his stuff all the time and it is top notch for us Sports nuts..! Thanks for getting him on line..will save me $$ on Ma Bell! Randy *ASTRO* BBS Ft. Myers, FL --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 973 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/05/93 4:25p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM>JD> written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop JM>JD> tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it JM>JD> comes to a bundle that is missing? JM>Sure could, BUT the boys at PC have been known to miss a file JM>now and then, would be kind of dangerous to do because you JM>could be waiting a whole week for that file to come in. ;-) If it could be optional I'd still like to have it do that. I plan to wait till the missing file comes in and if it's not there by the second pass, I'll file-request it from Boyd. Either way, I'd want the option to stop processing until I either got the file or manually bypassed it. JM>And I think there are a few sysops that would linch me if I JM>made the program do it. Only if that was the only option that they were given. A command line option would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure appreciate the option, myself. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 974 To: NORMAND MARINEAU Date: 12/06/93 12:30a Subj: Re: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I > receive > correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia > and I > bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network > ??? We are revamping some of our ploicies on nets that want to be distributed over the satellite. I will be talking with them at FrancoMedia and will hopefully have it up on the bird. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 975 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/06/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. > :-) I did say I am sorry to everyone about that! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 976 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/06/93 12:32a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass it on. But if the format is bad and it ends up not being forwarded to John I will be deleting it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 977 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 12:36a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've heard of that SOC_ROOT. Isn't it a genealogy echo? Probably one I'd > want too :-)) Heck, just throw it in Boyd, we can figure it out . Yea then I would have everyone out there after my white head! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 978 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 12:44a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If we push you into managing yet one more thing before you are ready we > might overload the human systems which inevitably leads to a breakdown in > the technical systems :-) Or a break down in my brian. :-) ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 979 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 12:50a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many > netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or > to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages > came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business > would not have grown as fast. Sorry. Not from routed netmail. I receive very few ones here. If they want info I send it direct to them. It is surprising what you get when you advertise in magazines and have a both at ONEBBSCON. > Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail > messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able > do. Yes and I get them from MY hub not from John. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 980 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 12:53a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that > somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the > problem. And that _somewhere_ is not me. You are asking fidonet's routing structure to basically change. This is a lot of work. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 981 To: BARRY CASSETTY Date: 12/06/93 12:55a Subj: Re: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 Your welcome. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 982 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 12:57a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people > to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who Someday, someday........ >> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > That's Overholt.......... Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. Hope he never caught that one. He would never let me live it down. He said he is going to buy me a spell checker for Xmas. Go figure? ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 983 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 1:00a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now, isn't that what I predicted would be the most efficient scheme in > the TVRO echo? And didn't you just sit by while I got trashed for > eve suggesting it . Opps! Sorry can be in every place at the right time. Did you take it gracefully? ;-) > It not only will "fix" problems of routing, it will improve access for > inbound echomail. Dont dream too much. It might become reality one of these days. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 984 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 1:01a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > As an aside, Boyd, it might make sense to do the conversion on your end > if there was general acceptance of receiving it in RIP *instead* of the > .pcx, because it would dramatically reduce the size of the files > transferred and hence free up a few minutes of the data stream. Naw we will JPEG em then you will all have to use ROBO/FX! ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 985 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/06/93 1:05a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a > program name to convert them. The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert it to an icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you want right? THis is just what I heard now folks.  ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 986 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:07a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps > reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with > regards to TVAGENT? Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a sollution to this problem. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 987 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/06/93 1:08a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > yes and yes...I even put the dips back to the default suggested in the > txt that you sent down..thinking that was it.. the latest software seems > to be more susceptible (sp?) to errors.. Did you make sure that you are locked on satellite. Make sure that the polorization is horizonal. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 988 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:10a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a fact! Patients aren't near as demanding as Sysops! Ahhhh, the good old days when I still had brown hair........ ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 989 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:11a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > routes. He he, John still has to deal with us in that regard. God bless him! > WHAT!?! Us complain?? Never.... Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 990 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! ^^^^^^ There is only ME! So I want MORE! Nothing a few good bottles of JB wont fix... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 991 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You mean you don't want to read/distribute the contents of our local > whips-n-chains echoes? Almost as good as the Playboy channel... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 992 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:15a Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hmmm, just checked our configurations here, Boyd, but it doesn't > appear No its not. > sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake > Party. May have to go to that. > to be held at Lake Somerville down near College Station, TX in Aggieland. > ;D Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to Texas! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 993 To: DALLAS HINTON Date: 12/06/93 1:16a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You know, we have such a scheme already in place -- called the Regional > Echo Coordinator! :-) You might consider getting them to help you set up > such a method? I'd start with Adrian Walker, 153/752 -- he seems to be > willing to spend time organizing and sorting out, AND he's good at it! > :-) Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have time to die my hair back to its original color. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 994 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/06/93 1:19a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd!!! > Just wanted to let you and everyone else know that > 107/33 went live on the "bird" at 4am on 12/1/93. Welcome aboard. > To that end, I'll be ordering a new Hayes 28.8 > modem so as to increase land line speed. Should have it soon too. > I also wanted to thank you and your staff for > helping me out during the setup phase. > I never did resolve the error I was having with > the PC software not always seeing the printer > port. The only way to solve that turned out > to be a motherboard change. When I switched > from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. > Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? > Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. > Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Computers are wierd aren't they. Its like they have a mind of thier own. Glad we could help. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 995 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 1:22p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> This conference is used for "conducting business" as well TB> as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, TB> Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) TB> conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at TB> least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS TB> programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing TB> to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and TB> update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a TB> routed netmail message needs to pass through your system TB> you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would TB> make a customer happy? No netmail......echomail of info or benefit to all is not so bad.....but routing commercial netmail is a no no..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 996 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/05/93 3:31p Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: FS> I also wanted to thank you and your staff for FS> helping me out during the setup phase. FS> I never did resolve the error I was having with FS> the PC software not always seeing the printer FS> port. The only way to solve that turned out FS> to be a motherboard change. When I switched FS> from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. Hmmmm intresting....I too run a 386sx-40....and have similar problems -but- only with the network software loaded....When I dont load the network it never fails.....I worked around it by having it only load the network when all files have been recieved and rebooting afterwards. FS> Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? FS> Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. FS> Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Yup.....If you would have just used a batch file to load the network using PCUTIL's errorlevels for all files recieved then rebooted afterwards things probably would have been fine. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 997 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 12/05/93 3:36p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ralph Lobianco wrote in a message to Mike Labbe: -> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* -> hours per day on a 486). RL> Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. ^^^^^^ I hope you mean 66 :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 998 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 12:40p Subj: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd! Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 999 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/05/93 4:05p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from > seeing the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in > I:\Outbound\, and seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs > from deleting the PT's and the Passthru Files. It will simply > assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there are no > FLO files remaining. My problem exactly, Ervin.... I've "solved" it by running TICK when I bring TBBS down to scan for outbound echomail. That way, TICK only looks at "real" outbound areas, not dummy areas built for CopyMail's use... I guess what we need is a network aware TICK proggie... One that reads/writes .BSY flags, and utilizes a staging area.... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** RIP available HERE!! ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 1000 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 6:02p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Thursday November 25 1993 10:44, Terry Blount wrote to Boyd Goodin: TB> Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use TB> routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call TB> in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and TB> found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting TB> there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales TB> that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee TB> . It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that TB> CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most TB> of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's TB> most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we TB> really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we TB> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the TB> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not TB> work. Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. You, of all folks, should know that, Terry. The CD-ROM folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the result may not be something you like. That's why I quit advertising to FidoNet SysOps. Dave Reed CD-ROM International ... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96! --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 1001 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 9:44a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. -> In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like -> this: {$i-} -> Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); -> {$i+} -> If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you -> were not currently on the same drive. That function in not inherent to Pascal, but a Pascal call to a basic DOS Rename File Interrupt request. It doesn't modify the FAT, it just rewrites the directory entry for the file and but keeps the same data chain pointers. Thus no data movement. However moving data from drive to drive, requires rewriting the data, since the data chain pointers wouldn't be the same. I always wondered why DOS doesn't allow it's RENAME command to have the same functionality as it's internal RENAME interrupt request. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 1002 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/04/93 9:49a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty, -> somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps -> reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with -> regards to TVAGENT? I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs up our Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing Planet Connect anything to obtain it. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1003 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 10:30a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming BG> back) going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. Nobody said anything about you routing netmail back down to the end nodes, although this is feasible. Be fun to keep up with it though as the zone hubs would have to be in on it. What is being asked is for you to route netmail received by your downlinks when they call to drop off their return echomail to John for delivery back down the chain. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1004 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 10:36a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > > Send xxxx 3615/50 > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed BG> netmail flow back to me from John for one of the BG> systems. Why is this? because the reply would follow Again, we are not talking about you receiving routed netmail _from_ John. But there isn't any reason you can't route netmail received at your system _to_ John... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1005 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/05/93 1:27p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GMD will send a message whenever he DELETES a message, Patty.. > REGARDLESS of any of the exclude parameters... Makes sense, per P4, I guess, John. Thanks for the info. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1006 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/05/93 1:28p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Film at 11..... Shouldn't that be .Gif at 11? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1007 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 1:28p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not since it has gone down. Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1008 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/05/93 1:29p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. > Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Could be, but then he'd still have to maintain some type of regional feed, likely LD, both for himself and his net. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1009 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:10a Subj: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 2 Dec 93 11:24pm, Boyd Goodin wrote to Floyd Drennon: BG> Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I BG> think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing BG> done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into BG> a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) Sorry Boyd, but in the contract I signed there was nothing about you finding time for a life! Seriously now, a couple of questions. Is it me or have you stopped sending the usenet test? I haven't received anything in days and haven't seen anyone else mention it (I know it was only temporary). Also, don't forget about the WINNET files that have the 'lost' TICs. SEBASTIAN ACOSTA ... Happy as a Pig in Mud! * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12257 --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1010 To: RIC WALSH Date: 12/03/93 3:54p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours -> ML> per day on a 486). I'm using QFront and am having NO problems whatsoever.. he is updating things so that the password system works better, but for now things are super.. and fast. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1011 To: ALL Date: 12/03/93 7:35p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files available .. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and Spitfire stuff that it would be nice to get PCBoard stuff (since there will be a large number of PCB systems on Planet Connect if not already, very soon). I personally would like to see lots of files coming through, but if we have to keep the numbers down I'd surely give up Wildcat and Spitfire files for PCBoard files (sorry WC and SF sysops) since I end up nuking them anyway. Just an opinion... don't know how those files are chosen but wanted to voice and opinion.. maybe someone can fill me in on just what/where and how that file system works? I've looked all over for some form of documentation for things like that but have yet to find anything. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1012 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 10:14a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. Not I. At present I spend $.10 * 30 days or roughly $3.00 per month to pick up our net's routed netmail. Unless Boyd can meet or beat that price, I would probably say that "I hope you were being sarcastic?? :)" If you wish to establish a routed netmail feed, contact John Knox at 1:147/7. If you ask him ever so nicely, he might allow you to have your net's netmail route through him. He connects direct with John every day and so can do what you're asking Boyd to do. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1013 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 10:27a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? > I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. > --- timEd-A10c > * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) Terry, I got this (and every other message that you wrote) twice. Here are the two info boxes on the message above, and if you want, I can put some info up on it: ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵ Notes Æ͸ ³ ³ ³ MSGID: 1:3625/441.0 cff63d33 ³ ³ REPLY: 1:396/1 2cfed606 ³ ³ PATH: 3625/441 3615/50 3807/100 ³ ³ ³ ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͵ Notes Æ͸ ³ ³ ³ MSGID: 1:3625/441.0 cff63d33 ³ ³ REPLY: 1:396/1 2cfed606 ³ ³ PATH: 3625/441 3615/50 3807/100 ³ ³ ³ ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Maybe it's something on my end. Never know see ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1014 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/05/93 10:30a Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the > usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL Hmmm if it wasn't in there, it shouldn't have been going to NUL. It should have defaulted to the c:\skydata subdirectory. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1015 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/05/93 10:36a Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have > TL> stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last > TL> Sunday. > > Perhaps hen things start flowing we can ask boyd to post an ACTIVE file > or a NEWSRC file to the datastream for us to use in configuring the > usenet feed? Good idea. Boyd: Make that two votes I don't know which software you're using to gate it, but would it be hard to whip up a quick routine to scan your config files and pull out all area info? Then you can simply use XROBOT or something similar to post it to the PCSTAT area or whatever the heck you wanna call it. If need be, I could write a program that would do it, but it'll be in QuickBasic ;) I don't know any other languages well enough to do that See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY WAGONER Number: 1016 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 11:41a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail goes through. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0395] * Origin: Signal Butte BBS (1:3400/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1017 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/05/93 12:28p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> Right, and the Zone and Region Hubs could simply not keep up JS> with all the changes necessary to route to the individual JS> nodes. So the bottom line is that we can't exchange routed netmail with the hub where we upload our echo mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1018 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 3:04p Subj: Creating a network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this -> > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We -> > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed -> -> One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Ca -> each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to t -> systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number fo -> systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with rout -> as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle -> system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net i -> well, I can dream though can't I? A better alternative would be for PC to donate a satellite system to each of the three U.S. Zone Hubs (incorrectly called stars; referring to George Peace, John Souvestre, and Dave James), wouldn't it? Then it would seem to be a simple matter for them to feed you. Better that and preserve the existing network than to create an entirely new one. A lot fewer headaches, I would think. Routing is not hard if you route to John. That sounds like a one-liner in the routing statement. Might be something to consider. -> -> > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something -> > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked a -> > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little -> -> Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am -> old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) OK, that slams the door on that. Not answering a simple question will definitely keep things a mystery. No sweat. Your call. Of course the member of the group will question that but I'll pass on your quote. -> -> > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does -> > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of -> > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an -> -> Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different comp -> founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant t -> nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. -> could not afford me! So, Joe Overhold is the owner/founder of Shop At Home as well as Planet Connect? That's reassuring, if I understand it correctly. Adds stability. I see that he is not in the Fido nodelist. How does one get hold of Joe? -> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and -> work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project -> take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course -> taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one -> ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. Well, we are all pleased with the good job you and Joe have done. It has brought Fidonet a new technology. You guys are to be commended. -> I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst goi -> a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will -> operation. Again, it seems to this writer to be a lot of unnecessary work. If there was a way to utilize the existing structure (and perhaps there is not; John Souvestre, what are your thought?) it might be advantageous to you. Again, we are all very pleased and look forward to expansion of the Planet Connect system/program. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1019 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 10:37p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Wow, it poured for two days up here with high winds. Thanks a lot, -> Buddy!!! Hang onto your hat Mike, high winds as a ton of rain starting tonight. That should bring you some lovely white snow in a week or so. Let me know what you think of that message Winter Diary that I sent you in RIME's Netadmin. I sent it R/O Routed but until Kip fixes the return receipts I won't know if you got it or not..... -> Looks like you got it set up great... Coming in loud and clear Not exactly. I'm receiving this feed via Fido but it won't be long, after the holidays, I'll be pulling this down (with EVERYTHING else) myself. A few of the locals chipped in and bought their own C-Band (10 foot dish) system and P_C's decoder and are starting to get their first feed. I'll see how their system works and also Bob Hunter (CHEMEK in RIME) just ordered the 3 foot Ku-Band system to use in Salem which is 35 miles south of me. Now I'll be able to see if Ku-band works in my area or not with P_C's bird and will make my choice at that time. I'd rather a 3 or better yet, 4 foot Ku band due to the smaller size but I'll go with what works in my area and I'm sure looking forward to it too! MA --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1020 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 12/04/93 3:34p Subj: Any problems? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any -> > problems? -> -> Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I' -> perfect reception. Any snow problems? You did not specify which size dish you are using (2 or 3 footer). --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 1021 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 12:35p Subj: update Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone give me an update on how Planet Connect is operating these days? 1) How often is fresh mail put into the cycle? 2) Besides Fidonet Backbone echos and the FileBone files, what else is being transmitted? 3) What (if any) are the proposed changes to the above? Thanks! --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * H16/V32b (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 1022 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/05/93 11:00p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Kyle Hearn: KH> MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. KH> How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? MF> Kyle, I thought everyone knew that hard drives only come in MF> one size.....TOO SMALL!!! Tell me about it. That monster 1.2 I bought a few weeks ago had 1000 mb free this morning. After putting unix on it, it has 800 less than it did earlier. MF> I'm running a 180meg drive on the PC system. That machine MF> only runs a mail only board and Planet Connect, so 180meg MF> has been enough thus far. I wish I could get away with that. My current message bbs takes up around 200MB! Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1023 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 10:02a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days ago. I have a few questions! I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your help! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1024 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 12/05/93 12:52p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> In a msg on , John Lyon of 1:2380/400 writes: -> -> JL> your -> JL> startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive -> JL> letter -> JL> and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? -> -> What's the command???? I haven't seen it documented anywhere, so don't know if I should be telling the world about it - Just kidding - hope it isn't a "hole" that Artisoft plugs after this! I stumbled across this by accident, but it works like a champ. When you connect to the server(s) with the NET USE command, DON'T specify the drive name on the server - just specify the drive letter you want to access it under and the server name, WITHOUT A SERVER DRIVE NAME. NET USE P: //SERVER1 All of the drives on the server will show up as directories on that drive (ie: the 7 drives on SERVER1 in the above command would show as p:/drivename directories). You can then switch to the individual directory names to access each individual drive. Hope that helps! John.... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1025 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/05/93 12:57p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive -> > letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? -> -> It might help. I'd be interested to see what you've got at any rate. I just sent this to Hector but I'll do it again incase you miss my responce to him. I haven't seen it documented anywhere, so don't know if I should be telling the world about it - Just kidding - hope it isn't a "hole" that Artisoft plugs after this! I stumbled across this by accident, but it works like a champ. When you connect to the server(s) with the NET USE command, DON'T specify the drive name on the server - just specify the drive letter you want to access it under and the server name, WITHOUT A SERVER DRIVE NAME. NET USE P: //SERVER1 All of the drives on the server will show up as directories on that drive (ie: the 7 drives on SERVER1 in the above command would show as p:/drivename directories). You can then switch to the individual directory names to access each individual drive. Hope that helps! John... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1026 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/06/93 5:18a Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if > we plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? Nope, the filebone is an open system. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 1027 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 9:30a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd: I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! I now have a dedicated C-band hookup to Planet Connect on G3 (no more sharing my home dish with you). It meant getting another satellite dish in my back yard, but I just tell my neighbors tha I am starting a cable company. Haven't gotten any orders yet..... Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a passthru system? I probably speak for a lot of people whenI say we'd like to hear about your upcoming plans concerning the newsgroups, including pricing. I also assume that sooner or later, maybe in a year, PC will eventually have to go to a continuous system instead of a discrete mail system, so we are working on this. Our mail HUB computer doubles for our Planet Connect collection computer, but our NET is saving and scrounging for equipment to build another computer. We have the motherboard, the power supply, and memory, we need at least a 200 MEG hard drive and some network cards and software. Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files that come in off the satellite in the holding directory to the UPLD.LST that you send. If all the files are present, it exits to a certain errorlevel which I have, among other things, set to run PCUTIL, toss the mail and run TIC. If the mail is not all present (and this happens a lot, sorry!), then the errorlevel that is returned is set to restart up PTCCMAIN and it runs another cycle. It usually only takes two cycles to get the mail, but the program can be set to attempt so many cycles so that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. We have our systems runnign with hardly a glitch. Thanks for and Joe for such a wonderful concept and all your hard work. Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1028 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 12/06/93 10:30a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Timothy! TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail TW> goes through. Here's typing at you from Mobile, Alabama! Welcome aboard! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Cats hate Windows, mouse driven ya know. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 1029 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/06/93 5:01p Subj: Re: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I You have to watch really really fast. See, when it says message dumped, you need to reprocess the mail after you add the group that "dumped" When you are done, delete the packets it creates and redo it one last time to create the real packets for your downlinks. This prevents dupes. --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CHILDS Number: 1030 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 6:51p Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey anybody: I just got into this planet connect and thing and i was just wondering. About how much would it cost me to get it all connected to my house? I am talking the software and hardware required. How much would all of that be total? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Files R Us BBs 615-226-4218 (1:116/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1031 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/07/93 3:22a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Not since it has gone down. > Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? Porno .GIF at 11????? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1032 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/07/93 3:24a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* > and runs up our > Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing > Planet Connect > anything to obtain it. > Regards, > Hans Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1033 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 3:25a Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have > time to die my hair back to its original color. > ...Boyd Hey Moosehead! At least you _HAVE_ a little hair left to dye! I'd prefer that mine turned gray rather than LOOSE! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1034 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/07/93 12:53a Subj: Re: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd! Hi Jeff! > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! Not at the moment. Still waiting for the rime boss to say it is ok.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1035 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/07/93 12:55a Subj: Re: lannet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > is LANNET flowing? haven;t seen anything... As far as i know it is active on my system. If anything comes in it goes over the sat. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1036 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/07/93 12:57a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is being asked is for you to route netmail received by your > downlinks when they call to drop off their return echomail to John for > delivery back down the chain. That I have no problem with as long as they go to John. If they end up in my netmail area I will delete them. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1037 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 12/07/93 1:03a Subj: Re: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sorry Boyd, but in the contract I signed there was nothing about you > finding > time for a life! Seriously now, a couple of questions. Is it me or have And a merry Xmas to you too!;-) > you > stopped sending the usenet test? I haven't received anything in days and > haven't seen anyone else mention it (I know it was only temporary). I Well they are back up. I have two going out. THe PCUSENET.001 is done with a util that will insert our name so we dont have to toss in and toss back out of the system. PCUSENET.002 is done with a toss in toss out format. I want everyone to try it and see if both work or if one works betterthan the other. > Also, don't forget about the WINNET files that have the 'lost' TICs. Guess I will just have to sent all 50 megs that I have sitting here. I forgot which ones they were. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1038 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/07/93 1:10a Subj: Re: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! We aim to please. > in my back yard, but I just tell my neighbors tha I am starting a cable > company. Haven't gotten any orders yet..... All you need now is the FCC on your back asking if you are stealing HBO or something. > Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is > what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as > Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a > passthru system? I probably speak for a lot of people whenI say we'd > like to hear about your upcoming plans concerning the newsgroups, > including pricing. Weeeelllllll now I think the format will be in the bag format (like Pagesat's) that a lot of uucp gateway programs have made changes for. Still in the testing phase and should have everything going by the first of the new year. > I also assume that sooner or later, maybe in a year, PC will > eventually have to go to a continuous system instead of a discrete mail > system, so we are working on this. Our mail HUB computer doubles for > our Planet Connect collection computer, but our NET is saving and > scrounging for equipment to build another computer. We have the > motherboard, the power supply, and memory, we need at least a 200 MEG > hard drive and some network cards and software. Takes time to perfect pertection! > We have our systems runnign with hardly a glitch. Thanks for and > Joe for such a wonderful concept and all your hard work. I thank you, Joe thanks you, the bank thanks you, IDC thanks you, The phone company thanks you, Hughes thanks you, CIT thanks you, and of course, Joe's family thanks you. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1039 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hey Moosehead! At least you _HAVE_ a little hair left to dye! Ahhh, Jerry has a big mouth! Ok hoser. Well thats one thing I can say is that I do have a full set of hair. > I'd prefer that mine turned gray rather than LOOSE! Got a few good years in me yet! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1040 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/05/93 8:42p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA>Not exactly. I'm receiving this feed via Fido but it won't be long, after th MA>holidays, I'll be pulling this down (with EVERYTHING else) myself. Hi Mark! Ah go ahead and spring for it! (Get the 3 ft Ku! ;-) ) Do you think Rime admin is in here? --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1041 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 7:04p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> command line option JD> would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure JD> appreciate the option, myself. I'll put it on the list of things to do...... LONG LIST ;-) John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1042 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 5:52p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! 05 Dec 93, Jerry Dunlap writes to John Morano: JD> If it could be optional I'd still like to have it do that. I plan to wait JD> till the missing file comes in and if it's not there by the second pass, JD> I'll file-request it from Boyd. Either way, I'd want the option to stop JD> processing until I either got the file or manually bypassed it. I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or erase them. It also keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel based on the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I will make it available when it is ready. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1043 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 5:58p Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 06 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Jerry Dunlap: >>> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this >> That's Overholt.......... Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. BG> Hope he never caught that one. He would never let me live it down. He BG> said he is going to buy me a spell checker for Xmas. Go figure? Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1044 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 10:21p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/06/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a BG> > program name to convert them. BG> BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert it to a BG> icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you want r BG> BG> THis is just what I heard now folks.  BG> BG> ...Boyd Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there that can do it please fill me in. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1045 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/06/93 9:55p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files to be moved rather than deleted? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALLAS HINTON Number: 1046 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 12:15p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd -- on Dec 06 1993 at 01:16, you wrote: BG> Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have time to BG> die my hair back to its original color. :-)) Take it from me -- it doesn't work! :-)) Cheers ... Dallas --- * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver BC, CANADA [604-266-7754] (1:153/715) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1047 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/06/93 9:01p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday December 05 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Todd! >> message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the >> usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL TL> Hmmm if it wasn't in there, it shouldn't have been going to NUL. It TL> should have defaulted to the c:\skydata subdirectory. Without boring you too much with my set up here...basically I only have a 40 meg hard drive on the computer receiving the sat stuff..for fear of grinding it to a stand still with a ton of usenet stuff..I had the rulebase for usenet going to nul..but had forgotten about that..so now that I'm looking at getting usenet sent around locally here and have a possible gate back in, I have set it up. but as you've said, nothing is coming through at the moment..oh well :) Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday December 06 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1048 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 4:16a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> It is surprising what you get when you advertise in BG> magazines and have a both at ONEBBSCON. BG> > Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail > messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able > do. BG> BG> Yes and I get them from MY hub not from John. You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1049 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/07/93 4:21a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about JL> different files available JL> .. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities JL> and doors but that we are JL> to request this service.. I have no clue how to go JL> about requesting this but I JL> do know that if we're getting Wildcat and Spitfire JL> stuff that it would be nice I'll just mosy over to the File_Movers echo and forward this puppy there -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1050 To: DAVE REED Date: 12/07/93 7:51a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Reed wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DR> Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. DR> You, of all folks, should know that, Terry. The CD-ROM DR> folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the DR> result may not be something you like. That's why I quit DR> advertising to FidoNet SysOps. I believe he was speaking of Boyd's business (Planet Connect)... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1051 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 7:57a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Patty Pickett: BG> Almost as good as the Playboy channel... Probably better...:-) Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 1052 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 11:11p Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased with everything. I want to commend Boyd and Joe for providing this service. Just through some quick calculations, I figured that the purchase of this system (Ku band) and the subscription would pay for itself in less than a year from what it was costing me in LD charges for echomail and file feeds. I'm also in the process of expanding my BBS with an additional 2 nodes, 2 Gigs of HD space, and another CD within the next few weeks. (Actually the new 486DX/2-66 will arrive in the morning but I'm still waiting on Southern Bell and US Robotics to deliver. With the addition of this service, it will allow me excellent exandability. Again, this service is the best thing since sliced bread! Bob Frady --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1053 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/07/93 9:20p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any TM> previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to Just use any editor (DOS 5 Edit works) and delete the line with the file name in it in the CHECK.IDX file, I make it a plain ascii file file just for that purpose. Have fun... John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1054 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/07/93 6:10a Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Saturday December 04 1993, Dennis Powers writes to Ervin Jay: DP>>> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees EJ>> It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since EJ>> there are no FLO files remaining. DP> Never had the problem here....hmmm.. I only run tick once a day here and I DP> guess I've been lucky that I get all passthru files delivered prior to DP> it's next run.... This is going to take some thought. When you figure it out, I'd really appreciate knowing how, it could come in extremely handy... Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1055 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/07/93 6:16a Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sunday December 05 1993, John Burton writes to Ervin Jay: >> It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there >> are no FLO files remaining. JB> My problem exactly, Ervin.... :( JB> I've "solved" it by running TICK when I bring TBBS down to scan for JB> outbound echomail. JB> That way, TICK only looks at "real" outbound areas, not dummy areas built JB> for CopyMail's use... But, this kind of defeats the purpose of Tic'ng to a Copymail area in the first place, as, if there are TIC files to process, Tick will process them directly into the Normal Outbound, again running into the problem of not sending a file to a node which may be connected. JB> I guess what we need is a network aware TICK proggie... One that JB> reads/writes .BSY flags, and utilizes a staging area.... Hey, not _that_ would be a great idea, you a programmer :))) Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1056 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/07/93 6:21a Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday December 03 1993, Patty Pickett writes to Ervin Jay: >> KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message PP> Oh, okay, Ervin, thanks for the info. :) You are welcome, Hope it worked for you... :)) Cheers, Ervin ... Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1057 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 2:25p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to John Souvestre: > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. BG> BG> Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass BG> it on. But if the format is bad and it ends up not being BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1058 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 9:13a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* MF> > and runs up our MF> > Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing MF>Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ MF>serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt MF>the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? With our total daily capacity up around 160 megs, I don't think Joe should cease putting anything on the bird that he thinks any of us might be interested in. Those of us who do not want any of it can just send it to NUL as you say. I say that Joe should throw up everything he can get his hands on and let us use it if we want and NUL if we don't. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 1059 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/07/93 3:05p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured > as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to > automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a > workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. > PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it > from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with > incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for > your Well there are all ways of doing it so here is how I do it !: I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is how I do it. I run TBBS (8 lines) with TIMS (mailer) on the BBS machine (Lantastic Server). I Run QMAIL (thanks George) on a dedicated server along with ALLFIX,AREAFIX and COPYMAIL. Next I run the Satellite system on a machine all by it's self. The Sat. system is configured as a Workstation not a Server. When the SAT system is booted it automatically runs PCUTIL CHECK4 then starts the SAT program. After the SAT gets it's data and when the system gets a signal fron the SAT and drops to DOS I have it reboot the system with a program called BOOTIT, the system compeletly reboots and runs PCUTIL and moves all new files over the LAN to my Mail machine then the SAT system resumes it's data gathering. I reboot the machine each time to assure the LAN connect is good since I run it as a Workstation it just relogs on to the mail machine. I also made a little SAT.BSY flag file that is copied over ahead of the files by the batch program, the mail program looks for this flag prior to moving the inbound files for mail processing, if it sees it it just loops in the batch file until it disappers, then deletes it when the copy process is complete. Now on the mail machine I have a BAT FILE in a contionus loop looking for inbound mail both 0000ffff.* files in the sub dir where the PCUTIL moved them and on the BBS machine (TIMS) inbound dir. If there is new mail in either place the batch file MOVES (DOS 6.X) it to Qmails inbound dir. on the mail machine. I then invoke QMAIL/AREAFIX to toss and pack all mail and then use COPYMAIL to move it back to the BBS'S outbound Dir. I also run ALLFIX now to clean out all the new inbound Files/Tic TOTAL PROCESSING, TOTALLY HANDS OFF !!!! Regards Jerry PS you milage may vary ! --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1060 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/07/93 1:21p Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD->MF>Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ JD->MF>serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt JD->MF>the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? JD->With our total daily capacity up around 160 megs, I don't think Joe should JD->cease putting anything on the bird that he thinks any of us might be JD->interested in. Those of us who do not want any of it can just send it to N JD->as you say. I say that Joe should throw up everything he can get his hands JD->on and let us use it if we want and NUL if we don't. The point is, Jerry, the TVAgent program _only_ runs on the machine with the dongle on it. There is no way whatever for your users to try it out & see if they like it or not. They can order a subscription to it, but they are doing that blind [which means they won't do it at all, because BBS users are spoiled into the belief they have a _right_ to try it _before_ they register/subscribe or whatever]. I can't put the TV listing files up for download because a lot of my users know where I live! Why do it if the BBS caller can do nothing with them once they've downloaded them. Having them there doesn't bother me because I automatically send them to >NUL. And I would _strongly_ argue the 160 meg daily capacity. That only applies if you have _no_ repeats. And if missing mail is ok with you, then I guess you don't need repeats. Remember it only takes ONE error for you to miss a mail bundle! Sure, you'll say "but I'd just freq it from Boyd"; but you might not say that if you were in Bermuda! If Planet Connect stops repeating the mail and you don't get everything the when it is sent, it is lost for good. Not everyone can afford to start freqing a meg or two of missed mail from Boyd every day, nor could Boyd support that without a major expansion in the number of phone lines there! 160meg daily capacity? I'd say that 40 meg is a much more realistic figure. (Four repeats per day.) I still maintain, the TV listing stuff serves a useful function...it shows that you are between cycles of the stuff you can use. You see, I was arguing FOR have the TV listing files on the bird. * OLX 2.1 * I take no responsibility for the Random Taglines. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives (615)-952-2254 V32b Node 1 (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1061 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:30p Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a > sollution to this problem. Thanks much, Boyd, hopefully I'm not the only one who will thank you for it. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1062 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:30p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Almost as good as the Playboy channel... Drats, I thought I deleted 3615/50 from that echo distribution. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1063 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:31p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake > > Party. > > May have to go to that. You're certainly welcome, Boyd, as long as you're not in the line to throw the bride and/or groom into the lake following the nuptials. > Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to Texas! Beg... tell him it's good PR. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1064 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/07/93 1:33p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs up our > Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing Planet Connect > anything to obtain it. We had been copying it over to the network drives in the hopes that one day we'd have time to take a look at them, Hans, but since we discovered that it requires that bloody dongle to run we just basically send it to the bit bucket. :sigh: --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1065 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/07/93 1:37p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files > available.. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors > but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go > about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and > Spitfire stuff that it would be nice to get PCBoard stuff (since there Read the footer in Filebone.na, John, the PCB* FDN are not yet on the filebone although it has requested this status. Send netmail to one of the listed filebone hubs and request that it be placed on the filebone. Assuming that the FDN head isn't some kind of control freak, once on the filebone you'll likely see it coming over the satellite sometime thereafter. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1066 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 6:49p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Porno .GIF at 11????? Naw, we'll just hatch them out via our local Whips-N-Chains FDN. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1067 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:15p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicates problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a good job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me alot... --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1068 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:18p Subj: Manual, Docs, etc.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I received my setup during the final BetaTest phase, I recieved no manual or docs for Programs Like PCUTIL and the other small utilities in the PLANETC or main directory.. Are there docs for these programs and could you send them down through the Satellite if there is.. I'd like a decent description of the workings of PCUTIL at least.. Thanks in advance.. --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1069 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:20p Subj: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, who are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes with me. I'm running under Searchlight, and would like to exchange hints and tips which might benefit both of us.. --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1070 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 7:45p Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > And I would _strongly_ argue the 160 meg daily capacity. That > only > applies if you have _no_ repeats. And if missing mail is ok > phone lines > there! 160meg daily capacity? I'd say that 40 meg is a much > more > realistic figure. (Four repeats per day.) Ok, 40 meg per day sounds ok to me for the present. We still have alot of space left for goodies. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1071 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/07/93 7:47p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> command line option > JD> would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure > JD> appreciate the option, myself. > > I'll put it on the list of things to do...... > > LONG LIST ;-) I understand and thanks for the good program. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1072 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/07/93 7:48p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas > and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified > subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in > Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or erase them. It also > keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel based on > the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I > will make it available when it is ready. Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of thing and have it sent over the bird? --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM OXFORD Number: 1073 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/07/93 11:47a Subj: Re: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any > previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index > file to have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files > to be moved rather than deleted? Tracy, I do it by using a text editor and editing the CHECK.IDX file, just delete the line and the next time pcutil moves files it will move that one again. Thats the way I make sure that duplicate named mail files get moved if they are not the same. To check to see if its a duplicate name, just check the file time of when it was put together. --- QM v1.26/b * Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14Gig (1:147/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 1074 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/06/93 6:06p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs > up our > Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing Planet > Connect > anything to obtain it. I'm with you on this. I don't htink I've looked at the TV listings but about twice since I've been running PC. It would be a shame if I major part of our price that we pat for PC is TV listings and we can't do anything with them. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1075 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:26p Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be done to get it on the dish? I can put a good word in for you if can tell me the requirements you need filled.. ( I am the ZyXELNET region 27 RC & REC) Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1076 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/06/93 9:25p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Any idea when RIME will start feeding? Bonnie is waiting for her PC satellite dish to begin testing, but apparently it's backordered. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1077 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/07/93 9:08a Subj: ANY PROBLEMS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any snow problems? You did not specify which size dish you are using > (2 or 3 footer). Sorry, I'm using a 1M KU band dish with a .08 LNB (or is that .8? - I can'T remember) We've had a few cm's of snow lately and go very slightly lower signal. I've been checking the meter very carefully every day. On clear days it goes up over 8, on cloudy, snowy days, it drops to just under 8. I don't know the specs on these receivers, but the meter appears to be linear, not logorithmic in nature(by db's) so it's difficult to tell just how much signal degeneration there is at each mark on the meter. Most AM/FM transceivers use S units to determine signal strength, based on how many db's per mark on the meter. Every 3 db equals twice the perceived power...(in radio terms). At 44 or 45 degrees you shouldn't have any problems. If you suspect otherwise, contact a local HAM operator or professional. (a HAM will give you an honest answer) Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASIL GROMAN Number: 1078 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 8:36a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday December 06 1993 01:07, Boyd Goodin wrote to Patty Pickett: >> somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps >> reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with >> regards to TVAGENT? BG> Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a BG> sollution to this problem. I agree with Patty. My Planet Connect computer is a dedicated system that I keep out of the way. I thought I'd be able to pass the info over the network to my work computer. Was a little annoyed that I couldn't. At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the TV agent. Thanks, Basil --- GoldED/P16 2.42.G1114+ * Origin: GSICS Online 417-334-3885 16.8HST/v32bis (1:284/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1079 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 12:32a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the -> > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. -> -> Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass it on. B -> format is bad and it ends up not being forwarded to John I will be de -> -> -> ...Boyd Persistent, aren't they!! :)! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1080 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:06a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Computers are wierd aren't they. Its like they have a mind of thie -> Glad we could help. HELP!!!!!!!! Another "bug" has bitten my "dish" system. I came home from work this morning and found the following: Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. The system was locked up tighter then a drum. I'm running PCUTIL.EXE dated 9/25/93. Got any ideas???? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1081 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/07/93 12:57a Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yup.....If you would have just used a batch file to load the network -> PCUTIL's errorlevels for all files recieved then rebooted afterwards -> probably would have been fine. -> Hi Greg, Well, since all that system does is connect the satellite to the LAN, I decided that the 386sx-40 was overkill. The 286 should do just fine. BUT, I just posted a message about a system lock up. Have to wait for a reply. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1082 To: DAVE REED Date: 12/06/93 8:07p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Reed wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DR> Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. DR> You, of all folks, should know that, I personally don't route ANY netmail. I was talking about the problem of educating everyone in fidoland to crash their netmail when they wanted to order something from a business or an individual. DR> The CD-ROM DR> folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the DR> result may not be something you like. If anyone is treated unfairly or singled out because of their business (when it is legal) I wouldn't like it. DR> That's why I quit advertising to FidoNet SysOps. I don't see why you would let Us Robotics, Quaterdeck, Wordperfect, Microsoft, Borland, BlueWave, Clipper, Paradox, Ashton-Tate, Lantastic, Novell, Qedit, Qmodem, Telix, Telemate, Pcboard, Wildcat, Quick BBS, Remote Access, Searchlight Spitfire, VBBS... and hundreds other companies have all the fun. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1083 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 8:22p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? Not totally ...it has begin to quiver and show signs of new life. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ROSINSKI Number: 1084 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 11:59p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the >FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! What about messages from echoes in the FIDONET.NO file? We are getting those echoes via the satellite. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480) * Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM WEISS Number: 1085 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 5:21p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12-03-93, BOYD GOODIN wrote to LARRY JAMES: BG> Who's Veger? You're probably not a Star Trek Fan. It was supposedly one of the first unmanned deep space probes sent out to learn and adapt. It's original name was Voyageur. However, it's name got mutilated in a space accident. -=- * Freddie 1.2.5 * Zonker says: "Pardon me. Do you have grey poop on?" --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480) * Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1086 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 6:32a Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert > it to an icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as > big as you want right? It does allow you to create an icon but it all has to be done manually. We need a utility that works in a batch file. The other problem with creating an icon is that it needs to be downloaded by the user in order to be used by Ripterm. There isn't much use in creating a set of temporary weather map icons when the user must download the files anyway. A .RIP file is what we need in order to make the weather screens viewable immediately without "download". I don't know of a utility that will convert a .PCX to .RIP at the moment. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1087 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:56a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > yes and yes...I even put the dips back to the default suggested in the > -> txt that you sent down..thinking that was it.. the latest software seems > -> to be more susceptible (sp?) to errors.. -> -> Did you make sure that you are locked on satellite. Make sure that the -> polorization is horizonal. I had to play with the recommended settings to get one that works for me.. was almost at the very top of the list - far away from the most recommended - before I started getting error-free reception.. had I not had an ex-satellite tech here to play around with these things I'd probably be only getting 30% of the files right now --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1088 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 7:26a Subj: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I Well they are back up. I have two going out. THe PCUSENET.001 is > done with a util that will insert our name so we dont have to toss in > and toss back out of the system. PCUSENET.002 is done with a toss in > toss out format. I want everyone to try it and see if both work or if > one works betterthan the other. 002 worked MUCH MUCH better. I got TONS of errors "repositioning" during the 001 file. .002 tossed just fine. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 1089 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:41p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd: Monday December 06 1993 00:44, Boyd Goodin wrote to Glenn Caleval: BG> Or a break down in my brian. :-) ^^^^^ Looks like it's too late already. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1090 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:47p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: > May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! BG> ^^^^^^ BG> There is only ME! So I want MORE! BG> Nothing a few good bottles of JB wont fix... JB? I figured you boys would be burning Tennessee Lemonaid. :-) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1091 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:49p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant BG>connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will advise. I still haven't decided whether I'm keeping the ISDN or not. Equipment cost are still a question. BTW, got the equipment. No instructions however... but that never stopped me before. Say which side goes toward the satellite? Convex or concave side? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1092 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:51p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Ahhhh, the good old days when I still had brown hair........ Ha! Yeh, well be happy you still have some hair. I'm gaining this increasingly polished spot on front from going " Oh No!!" a little too often. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1093 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/07/93 11:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , John Souvestre writes: JS>Everyone else who routed for that Net (the Zone Hubs and the JS>Region Hubs in that region) would also have to change their JS>routing, along with Boyd. Understand. So be it, next problem. It sure would be nice if we had some sort of program along the lines of Areafix to assign/deassign routing. Course that could take quite a bit of doing. Happy Holidays, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1094 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/08/93 4:01a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files > available.. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors > but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go > about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and PP> Read the footer in Filebone.na, John, the PCB* FDN are not yet on the PP> filebone although it has requested this status. Send PP> netmail to one of the listed filebone hubs and PP> request that it be placed on the filebone. Assuming PP> that the FDN head isn't some kind of control freak, PP> once on the filebone you'll likely see it coming over PP> the satellite sometime thereafter. Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1095 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 11:06p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW>Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicates RW>problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a good RW>job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? RW>Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me RW>alot... I am running GEcho as a tosser and have set the dupe file to it's max: 32766 entries. This sure made a difference... got an unbelievable number of dupes before... I figure that it took care of 95% of them. Unfortunately, with an entire backbone feed as with Planet Connect and a few other network feeds I may see from 38,000 to 48,000 messages processed in 2 days (and I'm sure the number isn't going to be getting any smaller). That means that it's possible that a message that comes through as a dupe may no longer be in the database even a day later! Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 1096 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 9:12p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Mickey Ferguson of 1:116/205 writes: >> I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* >> and runs up our >> Satellite connect cost I hope it isn't costing >> Planet Connect >> anything to obtain it. >> Regards, >> Hans MF> Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ serve a MF> useful function! They let you know you are betwixt the cycles of MF> the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? Yeah, I agree 100%. The TV stuff is useless to me now that the TVAGENT program looks for the dongle. I can't use it across my network and the TVAGENT program won't run on a monochrome system, which is what I have on the machine that does nothing all day long but pull in the satellite feed. There's no way I'm going to buy a vga and card just so I can run it. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1097 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/08/93 10:12a Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Jerry for taking the time to explain your setup! JR> When the SAT system is booted it automatically runs PCUTIL CHECK4 then star JR>the SAT program. After the SAT gets it's data and when the system gets a sig JR>fron the SAT and drops to DOS I have it reboot the system with a program cal This is the piece of information I am missing. How often does the satellite send this signal for the SAT software to drop to DOS? JR> PS you milage may vary ! Of course! ;-) Thanks again! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 1098 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/08/93 11:50p Subj: areafix and Planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was helping a friend (Ken Carpenter 1:14/608) set up Planet Connect last weekend. We were trying to figure a way to set up areafix (v1.3) and PC. What we wanted is to have the system he feeds be able to request whatever area is in fidonet.na & .no and have it immediately add the area. Without having to forward the request and wait for something to come into bad messages. Is there a way of doing this that we may have overlooked? I'm sure Boyd doesn't really want requests forwarded to him. And we have the bad message area set very small to dump out all the excess messages he isn't using to save space. Any help would be appreciated. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1099 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/08/93 10:27p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! 07 Dec 93, Jerry Dunlap writes to Dennis Powers: >> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas >> and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified >> subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in JD> Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of thing JD> and have it sent over the bird? I figured I get it out through either Softdist or one of the Utilnet's (I think it's 2 that goes over the sat feed). It's basicly freeware with a request for a postcard . Version 1 will just report Version 2 will generate File requests (that takes a bit more code ). I'll announce it when it's ready. The main thing that got me started was I needed a way to find out if I missed anything.... half way into the project I realized I needed to duplicate the concept of the PCUTIL to keep track so I figured is wasn't much more work to add the Copy/move stuff. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1100 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/08/93 8:01p Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Laz! In a message to All <12/04/93> Laz Gottli wrote: LG> Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if LG> plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? LG> Or do we do it just out of common curtesy? LG> How is everyone else treating this? LG> Thanks I am processing them all into my database and when I get cramped for drive space I will delete everything first with 0 downloads, then if not enough deletes I will delete everything that has less than 10 downloads. Unless I see a need for the files later on that is. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Me, indecisive? I don't think I am, do you? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1101 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 12/08/93 8:24p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Timothy! In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail TW> goes through. Got it here in Middle Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1102 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 8:52p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to All <12/05/93> John Dodson wrote: JD> Hello All! JD> I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days JD> ago. I have a few questions! JD> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a JD> Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate JD> the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a JD> workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. JD> PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from JD> the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your JD> help! Pcutil is not limited to the Satelite machine. What I did in my pcsky.bat was run pcutil next3 and goto restart. On another machine I copied the config file for pcutil and changed the drive letters to point to the server that has the satelite running. I use Front Door as my front end so I setup an event to toss the mail and process the .tic files. From the directory that contains my new pcutil config file I do a pcutil next1 which moves the first mail packet from the toss dir to my FD inbound and call my tosser. Upon finish of that toss I have a if exist statement that looks to the toss dir for the existance of anything starting with 0000????.*, if it is there it does a goto retoss and does the thing over and over till all mail is tossed. Then I have a file move, move h:\toss\*.* h:\fd\file all tics and compressed files are then processed with WCFF, a Wildcat file fawarder, I wrote myself a program, which takes all the fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. Now I also include all other areas which my system has so if a .tic comes in from a node it too is processed. I get home at 3:15 pm each day and all mail and .tics are processed. I have been connected to PC for 5-6 weeks now and look farward to Internet to alter thinga again. Joe PS if you want more info just let me know. I don't profess to know the answere but will help where possible. * WCE 1.10/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1103 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/08/93 6:52p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley, in a message to John Morano, you wrote: TM> Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any TM> previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to TM> have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files to be moved TM> rather than deleted? John, In the message above, Tracy suggests something which I too would really like to see... Just adding one more voice to the idea. :-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1104 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/08/93 9:42p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Rudolf In a message to Boyd Goodin <12/06/93> Rudolf Rothemund wrote: RR> Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a I have WCUUCP wonder if that would work? RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR> the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR> then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR> Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR> that come in off the satellite in the holding directory to the UPLD.LST RR> that you send. If all the files are present, it exits to a certain RR> errorlevel which I have, among other things, set to run PCUTIL, toss the RR> mail and run TIC. If the mail is not all present (and this happens a RR> lot, sorry!), then the errorlevel that is returned is set to restart up RR> PTCCMAIN and it runs another cycle. It usually only takes two cycles to RR> get the mail, but the program can be set to attempt so many cycles so RR> that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. What do you think about letting me FREQ that PCCHECK utility for use on our nets HUB (my system..) It would save us a LOT of time and trouble..? * WCE 1.10/2008 * Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun. (ARMY OF DARKNESS) --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1105 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/08/93 9:50p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Dennis In a message to Jerry Dunlap <12/06/93> Dennis Powers wrote: DP> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas and will DP> copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified subdirectories. It also DP> and logs unlisted (not in Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or era DP> them. It also keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel ba DP> the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I will make DP> available when it is ready. Count me in on your distribution of this one.. Need any help with the Alpha testing? * WCE 1.10/2008 * Tagline not found...Hitting the red bu@$(@$#.... --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 1106 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/08/93 6:55p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> Any idea when RIME will start feeding? > Bonnie is waiting for her PC satellite dish to begin testing, > but apparently it's backordered. Oh well, BO's are life. I've got fellows here who are already in RIME wanting to know when the feed will start. all I tell them is sometime in the future (real precise date!) Anyhow, thanks for the info. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1107 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 12:00p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD>I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured JD>as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to JD>automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL JD>from a workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work JD>properly. PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and JD>run it from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of JD>dealing with incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! JD>Thanks for your help! Hi John. My setup is similar to yours, I have one dedicated machine on my Lantastic lan for the satellite feed. I run PCUTIL on that same dedicated machine, then my batch file copies whatever files are left to my bbs machine, to its inbound directory. I then send a semaphore file to my bbs machine to tell it to exit to process the mail/tics. This works very well. The trick is in using semaphore files. If you have any more questions I will be glad to help. ___ * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1108 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 9:47p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant BG>connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? Ok, here's the scam. Perhaps Jerry Dunlap might also add some comments as well. I do know that I have to shut down to 56k instead of 64k to reach you. About 75% of the time, this is what I get when I try to connect. 08 Dec 21:03:12 BINK Processing node 1:3615/50 -- Planet Systems 08 Dec 21:03:12 BINK Dialing 1-615-623-4816 08 Dec 21:03:26 BINK Connect 38400 08 Dec 21:03:28 BINK Modem protocol negotiation filtered 08 Dec 21:03:46 BINK Intro: **ÿ ÿ**EMSI_REQA77E**ÿ ÿ** Network mail only**TILL 3AM** 08 Dec 21:04:01 BINK Timeout 08 Dec 21:04:01 BINK No Send - Remote Hung Up 08 Dec 21:04:02 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 08 Dec 21:04:02 BINK Seconds: 34 Tariff: 35 Fee: 35 System: 1:3615/50 It sends the EMSI handshake packet, then sits waiting for the reply packet and never gets it. When I do get it, it's sluggish as hell and I get all kinds of wierd EMSI stuff. Notice the time delay after Connect until handshaking. There's a full 10 seconds of dead air. 08 Dec 21:04:42 BINK Processing node 1:3615/50 -- Planet Systems 08 Dec 21:04:42 BINK Dialing 1-615-623-4816 08 Dec 21:04:55 BINK Connect 38400 08 Dec 21:05:02 BINK Intro: D'Bridge EMAIL System 1.54/004770... Copyright 1987-1993 by Chris In 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: XMIT: {* * * * *} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: SDC: {[EF*!!!*!!!][E*`SE-][+%SEST][*Z[4jCAD]} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: UTC: {*`SE-=%,k!,lEST} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Aka: 95:95/50 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK SysOp: Boyd Goodin from Newport Tennessee 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Phone: 1-615-623-8203 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Flags: HST,CM,XX,V42.BIS 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Password-protected session 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Session method: ZedZap 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Nothing to send to 95:95/50 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK Seconds: 23 Tariff: 35 Fee: 35 System: 1:3615/50 I tried it without EMSI and simply got a dropped carrier as in the first example, so it's not just EMSI. And this same thing happened with ClassAxe which didn't even support EMSI. I did try a file request for FILES as well to see what would happen. * 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 : 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK SysOp: Boyd Goodin from Newport Tennessee 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Phone: 1-615-623-8203 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Flags: HST,CM,XX,V42.BIS * 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Password-protected session 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Created flagfile K:\Bbs\Outbound.05f\005f0032.BSY : 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Session method: ZedZap : 08 Dec 21:06:48 BINK Outbound file requests + 08 Dec 21:06:55 BINK CPS: 1 (7 bytes) Efficiency: 0% + 08 Dec 21:06:55 BINK Sent-Z/32 K:\Bbs\Outbound\0e1f0032.REQ ! 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Zmodem Init Problem Lost Carrier * 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 1/7 Total: 1/7 CPS: 1 * 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Seconds: 69 Tariff: 35 Fee: 70 System: 1:3615/50 It just hung up after about 30 seconds. I'd suggest you check your logs for the same time period and see what's going on from that end. Let me know what I can do. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1109 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 4:55p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with > incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for John, You can F'Req ALLBATS.ARC from here for copies of nearly all my batch files, including the ones from the P.C. machine. To answer your specific question, I let the PC software exit when it receives that marker file, run PCUTIL, do a couple of other things, defrag, then go back online with the bird. Takes just a minute or 2 if nothing new arrived, otherwise it's maybe 5 minutes or so. --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1110 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/08/93 3:11p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not totally ...it has begin to quiver and show signs of new > life. I know that feeling, Terry, and I wish you luck! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1111 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 3:20p Subj: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, > who are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes > with me. Former Searchlight SysOp here, Robert, and boy are you gonna have fun. Needless to say, you'll have to toss all those messages to *.MSG and then toss them into SLBBS. Since you're running SLMAIL 3.0, I'd turn off the message threading thingy (can't recall the command line parameter for it anymore) to speed things up somewhat. I used to keep 1,000 in about 75% of the echo areas (GENEALOGY was an exception to this since it's daily message volume is so high so I kept 1500 of those). You'll need to pack/purge often, of course, and the way that I handled that was by running a pack on the message bases on alternate days. The first day only packed the message base if the first message number was greater than 1000. The 2nd day packed a message base only if the 1st message number was greater than 500, and the 3rd day packed them only if the 1st message number was greater than 250. Cuts down on the processing time during maintenance and keeps things reasonably tidy. Don't forget to defrag your mail processing drive often because it will get fragmented pretty quickly under these conditions. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1112 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/07/93 6:13p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do you think Rime admin is in here? Don't know John. I'm here via Fido. -> Ah go ahead and spring for it! (Get the 3 ft Ku! ;-) ) Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. I didn't see anything in P_C's info about a 4 foot Ku dish. Do you know if they have one or just a 2 foot and 3 foot? I guess I should ask Boyd. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 1113 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/09/93 9:00a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe > database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it > set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. I've been asking van.der.land for that for two years now and he's ignored every request... this comes from one who moved mail on a region level for 18 months... Rick --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1114 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/09/93 9:52p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> I'd suggest you check your logs for the same time period and DO> see what's going on from that end. BinkleyTerm has known problems connecting with D'Bridge...It looks like that's what happening here... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1115 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:18p Subj: Re: is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Howdy What are the guidelines for a network to be transmitted via the bird? I have a small network here with about 30 boards, that we started in 1988. Thanks in advance Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 1116 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 10:24p Subj: Re: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, who > are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes with > me. > I'm running under Searchlight, and would like to exchange hints and tips > which might benefit both of us.. yes robert I run SL Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CHILDS Number: 1117 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 12:27a Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anyone gice me any ballpark prices on how much it would cost to get the hardware, software, and the service to run planet connect? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Files R Us BBs 615-226-4218 (1:116/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1118 To: CHRIS CHILDS Date: 12/08/93 8:12a Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC->Can anyone gice me any ballpark prices on how much it would cost to get the CC->hardware, software, and the service to run planet connect? Probably just about anyone on this echo can do that Chris. Ballpark would depend on what you already have, thus what you would have to buy. If you have everything but the satellite data receiver & software, you are looking at about $300. If you also need a dish, you are looking at about $500-$800 depending on what type & size dish you get. If you don't have a computer to dedicate to it, you'll one of those also. The service costs $30 per month if you don't hub it, or $40 per month if you do. Mickey * OLX 2.1 * *********For FREE Software support, just dial 1-900-976- --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives (615)-952-2254 V32b Node 1 (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1119 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 6:06p Subj: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Those systems are at it again...... 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and 'round the atmosphere........ Can they be stopped ============================================================================= * Forwarded by Ervin Jay (1:153/767) * Area : NET.FID (NetMail FidoNet: FIDO) * To : l  * Subj : Ú¤ }ˆXî `“¢ƒ ============================================================================= @INTL 1:3615/51 1:3615/50 > àA@ƒÇâôÃ3Ò€> @Via FrontDoor 1:271/270@fidonet, Nov 30 1993 at 1:33 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Tue Nov 30 01:48 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via QM 1:3821/100, Tue Nov 30 16:06 (v1.31) @Via QM 1:3615/50, Wed Dec 01 01:40 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via QM 1:3821/100, Wed Dec 01 16:04 (v1.31) @Via QM 1:3615/50, Thu Dec 02 02:24 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via FidoPcb v1.5 beta-'e' 1:229/15.0, 02 Dec 93 at 18:15 @Via GEcho 1:229/15, Dec 5 1993 at 1:13 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Sun Dec 05 04:45 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via FidoPcb v1.5 beta-'e' 1:229/15.0, 05 Dec 93 at 12:16 @Via GEcho 1:229/15, Dec 5 1993 at 13:18 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Mon Dec 06 05:22 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via FrontDoor 1:271/270@fidonet, Dec 8 1993 at 1:31 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Wed Dec 08 01:52 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via MsgTrack 1:153/767, Wed Dec 08 1993 at 19:51 UTC ============================================================================= Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 1120 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 6:38p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Friday December 03 1993 21:41, Terry Blount wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the TB> support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and TB> Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of TB> messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote TB> commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are TB> willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and TB> update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed TB> netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be TB> _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? TB> I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass TB> through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you TB> emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. That's not the point. Read Policy 4. If my CD-ROM pubishing firm can't use routed netmail, you can't either. ;-) Later, Dave ... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride! --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1121 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 7:40p Subj: Networks currently offere Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@SUBJECT:Networks currently offered N Can anyone tell me what networks are currently being transferred via the dish? I am trying to get all my software and some of the config stuff going so that I am ready when the dish arrives. I have Intelec, PEN, FidoNet already. I am going to get with the admins for the others to see what is needed. I also need to upgrade my FidoPCB key to ulimited instead of the 256 area one and upgrade RoseMail to the satellite option. What I would like to get is a list of the nets so that I can go get their information packs and start setting up their conferences and do any other things needed to run their net if I choose to run it. I guess it would be helpful also to know what distribution networks are hooked in so I can get my .TIC processor ready. Thanks Tim Fierro - Future Planet Connect Customer --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1122 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 8:18p Subj: I forgot this also.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No About how much disk space is going to be needed to handle the incoming mail? Right now I purge messages 10 days old. Assuming something of a purge ever xx days, how much disk space to hold the mail. Files are a different breed and I already have a solution for those, I only now need to calculate the disk space for mail and start making room to place the mail. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1123 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 11:17p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1124 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 12:52a Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1125 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 2:32a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the > screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there > that can do it please fill me in. Maybe someone will write a conversion to get it full blown. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1126 To: DALLAS HINTON Date: 12/10/93 2:32a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> die my hair back to its original color. > :-)) > Take it from me -- it doesn't work! :-)) Well I got a few good years in me yet. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1127 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/10/93 2:33a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up from my hub. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1128 To: BASIL GROMAN Date: 12/10/93 2:34a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So > make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the > TV agent. We are. Did you see my message in the PCSITES? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1129 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:35a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Persistent, aren't they!! :)! > Fred Yes! I think they all got a bit of maritimers blood in them. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1130 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:36a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Least you still have some!!! 33 and a full set of hair. Isn't life grand? ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1131 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:36a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. Thats a John Morano question. Hey John can you help him out? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1132 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/10/93 2:41a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. > Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about > the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... Not to worry. I got that fixed now. Everything goes to John. I have my hub complaining now because a system routed 700+ MsgTrack messages to my system thru standard means and he did not like it too much. > To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could > easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If > you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. I know. But like I said I am under no obligation to anyone to route their netmail. I said I will try this and see. Seems I got the routing down pat now thanks to one of our users. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1133 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:42a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks much, Boyd, hopefully I'm not the only one who will thank you > for > it. :) You are much welcome. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1134 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:43a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Drats, I thought I deleted 3615/50 from that echo distribution. ;D Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my 3 mintutes of free time a day. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1135 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:46a Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> May have to go to that. > You're certainly welcome, Boyd, as long as you're not in the line to > throw > the bride and/or groom into the lake following the nuptials. Yey and the next thing I know I would come back and the whole system will be down. Cant have that now. >> Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to > Texas! > Beg... tell him it's good PR. Weeeeeellll..... maybe! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1136 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/10/93 2:46a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Almost as good as the Playboy channel... > Probably better...:-) Got that right! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1137 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 12/10/93 2:48a Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd! > Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware > Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files > Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools > ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* > ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 > ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) > is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be done to get it on > the dish? > I can put a good word in for you if can tell me the requirements you need > filled.. ( I am the ZyXELNET region 27 RC & REC) I know the conference is going but dont know about the files. I have almost everything as pass thru and dont see whats going thru much. My tic cfg file has everything in it so it is hard to tell. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1138 To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 12/10/93 2:48a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What about messages from echoes in the FIDONET.NO file? We are getting > those echoes via the satellite. Yes it is. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1139 To: TOM WEISS Date: 12/10/93 2:49a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Who's Veger? > You're probably not a Star Trek Fan. It was supposedly one of the first > unmanned deep space probes sent out to learn and adapt. It's original > name was Voyageur. However, it's name got mutilated in a space accident. Ok now I remember. i am a trek fan but my memory is somewhere out there with it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1140 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/09/93 10:45p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! In a message to All <12/06/93> Robert Watson wrote: RW> Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicate RW> problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a goo RW> job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? RW> Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me RW> alot... I use DUPMSG on my Wildcat System, which reminds me, I got to regester it. Works super. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * PUT THE COMPUTER DOWN, HONEY..I'm quitting NOW! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1141 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/09/93 3:48p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is Leave up to a consultant to use 4 computers for a 2 computer job. Hi Jerry! I'd like to get a copy of allfix and whack on it. Can I FREQ it from you? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1142 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/09/93 11:58a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, * In a message originally to Robert Watson, Tim Brown said: > RW>Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the > Duplicates > RW>problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a > good > RW>job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? > RW>Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me > RW>alot... > I am running GEcho as a tosser and have set the dupe file to > it's max: > 32766 entries. This sure made a difference... got an > unbelievable > number of dupes before... I figure that it took care of 95% > of them. > Unfortunately, with an entire backbone feed as with Planet > Connect and a > few other network feeds I may see from 38,000 to 48,000 > messages > processed in 2 days (and I'm sure the number isn't going to > be getting > any smaller). That means that it's possible that a message > that comes > through as a dupe may no longer be in the database even a day > later! > Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up > the dupe > database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to > have it > set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. So far the number is not increased, look at tear line... Another valuable thing is to also enable the seen-by checking, it will catch the 5% you missing now:) John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 1143 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 11:48a Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Weeeelllllll now I think the format will be in the bag format (like >Pagesat's) that a lot of uucp gateway programs have made changes for. Still Sorry to hear that. Another new "standard" forcing us to choose modified software or be left out. I'm sure there are good reasons, both technical and market, for using .Bag files. And my software loves them. I'm just enjoying whining today. ;-) --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1144 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/09/93 10:39p Subj: Re: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd! > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! Hopefully soon! Just waiting on Bonnie. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1145 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/09/93 10:43p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). Tried that. I think he is starting to catch on to my canadien ways. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1146 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/09/93 10:34p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new DO> version of Bink and I'll try it out in the next day or so to DO> make sure all works. Will advise. If you are talking about this latest version that came over the bird: BDOS_258 ZIP 297990 12-01-93 11:15p you may be interested in the docs: This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. The penalties for such transgressions are very severe: we will get pissed off and send you a copy of someone else's software to run (whichever one happens to REALLY scare you most). You have been warned. I was a little stunned that software bearing such a warning would be distributed via the Filebone? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLETCH BOWLING Number: 1147 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 8:39p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John ! In a message to All <12/05/93> John Dodson wrote: JD> Hello All! JD> I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days JD> ago. I have a few questions! JD> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a JD> Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate JD> the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a JD> workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. JD> PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from JD> the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your JD> help! execute it from another workstation but have it configured to look at your sat server. I have been doing it for some time now with no problems whatso ever .. ttl,Fletch JD> --- QScan v1.02b JD> * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/1 * WCE 1.10/2185 * --- WM v3.10/91-0230 * Origin: TDC! 5.5gigs&14.4*2 Mobile,Al (1:3625/465) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE MEADORS Number: 1148 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/09/93 7:38a Subj: Planet Connect Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just curious to know how your efforts are progressing in getting your promotional video duplicated and distributed to those - like myself - who have asked for information about Planet Connect. Warmest Regards, Joe FidoNet: 1:160/230 BizyNet: 70:1/80 Internet: Joe.Meadors@f230.n160.z1.fidonet.org --- GoldED 2.42.G1125+ * Origin: ?ksa uoy od yhW .enif s'gnihtyrevE (1:160/230) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1149 To: BOB FRADY Date: 12/09/93 7:03a Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just > finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased Hey Bob! You mean you didn't like paying those high LD charges to get your mail from us? Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1150 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/09/93 7:08a Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I still maintain, the TV listing stuff serves a useful > function...it shows that you are between cycles of the stuff you can use. I always use the TV listings arrival as a good time to take down the program to see what's new in my "personal" directory. In other words they are quite useless here as well. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1151 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 12/09/93 6:50p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB> In the message above, Tracy suggests something which I JB> too would really like to see... Just adding one more voice JB> to the idea. :-) Edit the CHECK.IDX file with any editor.... ;-) John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GROWNEY Number: 1152 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 7:28p Subj: Internet/where? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How and where can I log on to Internet? How much does it cost? Is it availiable in the Sacramento, CA area? What can I do on Internet? Why do dogs like to lick my toes? OPPS! For get that last question! Thanks! ... **** KD6SRC **** 147.195+ or 145.250- **** Sacramento, CA. **** --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: DATAMAZE (1:203/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 1153 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 12/10/93 12:59p Subj: I forgot this also.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> About how much disk space is going to be needed to handle the -> incoming mail? Right now I purge messages 10 days old. Assuming -> something of a purge ever xx days, how much disk space to hold -> the mail. Files are a different breed and I already have a solution -> for those, I only now need to calculate the disk space for mail and -> start making room to place the mail. -> --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] Im purging at 10 days and Im useing over 250 Meg right now.. I would say 300 Meg for all the fido confereces would be safe.. Ralph --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1154 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/09/93 4:14p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it > works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he > runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some horrendous storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninformed) since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to any of them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despite the bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not heavily. Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1155 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/09/93 4:22p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to > John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak Yep, saw your message re: this in FILE_MOVERS, Jim. I was debating on whether or not to copy the original message there but you beat me to it. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 1156 To: STEVE PERLO Date: 12/10/93 4:10a Subj: Tic'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SP>RR> that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. SP>What do you think about letting me FREQ that PCCHECK utility for use on SP>our nets HUB (my system..) It would save us a LOT of time and trouble..? Ola' Steve. Better idea! Let's persuade Mark Gibson or Rudolf Rothemund to hatch PCHECK out in Utilnet2. Then we can ALL get it. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1157 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 2:29p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. BG> > Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about > the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... BG> BG> Not to worry. I got that fixed now. Everything goes to BG> John. I have my hub complaining now because a system routed BG> 700+ MsgTrack messages to my system thru standard means and BG> he did not like it too much. Well dont worry everyone else is going to bitch too.....You just sent about 50 corrupted and grundged message reports thru to everyone today.....:) > To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could > easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If > you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. BG> BG> I know. But like I said I am under no obligation to BG> anyone to route their netmail. Agreed.....Until you state that you will.....at that point you obligate yourself to return those that are undeliverable. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1158 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/10/93 12:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Sean Peoples writes: SP>BinkleyTerm has known problems connecting with D'Bridge...It SP>looks like that's what happening here... Really? One of my downlink hubs is using d'Bridge and I have no problem with him. As well as several other systems locally using d'Bridge with no problem. Strange. I'll accept what you say, wonder if it's just certain versions or what? Also could be exagerated by the ISDN speed. Oh well..... D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1159 To: ALL Date: 12/10/93 9:46p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No help!!!!! --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1160 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/10/93 4:36p Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thomas Beal wrote in a message to All: TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM TB> message base converter? Someone told me that a program TB> called Fred Gate works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro TB> 10. Thanks. fredgate doesn't do that, It converts usenet stuff to *.pkt files. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 1161 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/11/93 2:59a Subj: Is This Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RT>I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We RT>are finally connected to Planet Connect. Yep, ya made it to the bird. Welcome! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1162 To: MICHAEL GROWNEY Date: 12/10/93 2:51p Subj: Internet/where? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How and where can I log on to Internet? -> How much does it cost? -> Is it availiable in the Sacramento, CA area? -> What can I do on Internet? -> Why do dogs like to lick my toes? -> OPPS! For get that last question! Best source of answers is the Fido INTERNET echo (areafix it today). There are numerous sources for linking up. Prices seem to run $20+ per month. Proces have been dropping. Sources are repeatly listing the the Fido INTERNET echo. Yes, Sacramento's not a problem. --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1163 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 5:20p Subj: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most part they look like the following: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date : Nov 19 '93, 23:43 Pvt From : 1:3615/50.0 To : l 1:3615/51.0 Subj : Ú¤ }ˆXî `“¢ƒ ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄNFnN$9 $9 œ/(Fido) Planet Connect  C:\62.TXT e coming across and being tossed into my NetMail area. Just wondering... John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSH HEIZMAN Number: 1164 To: ALL Date: 12/10/93 8:52p Subj: FastEcho and QWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Two Questions: A) Does anyone with a PC Satellite (which I would think would just about be all of you ) run FastEcho?? B) While I'm here, does anyone have a QWK <=> PKT converter?? Thanks- Josh Heizman Co-SysOp File Shop --- * Origin: The File Shop BBS - 40 Gigs Online (816) 587-3311 (1:280/316) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASIL GROMAN Number: 1165 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:13p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So > > make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the > > TV agent. > > We are. Did you see my message in the PCSITES? Yes I did. Am looking forward to browsing the listings. Thanks, Basil --- * Origin: GSICS Online (417)334-3885 -=16.8HST/v32bis=- (1:284/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 1166 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/10/93 11:31p Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just -> > finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased -> -> Hey Bob! You mean you didn't like paying those high LD charges to ge -> your mail from us? -> -> Ed I thought I saw you floating around here. I've been fighting network problems the last couple of days, but I'm getting more echomail than I ever beleived possible. Just put in a new fileserver with 2gigs to handle everything. But I'm really enjoying the satellite downlink. But I couldn't complain about the service from you though. Its just Southern Bell . Bob --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1167 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/04/93 9:08a Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Gary! 01 Dec 93 14:22, Gary Chambers wrote to All: GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, GC> that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... GC> Thank you, GC> GeeCee/2 GC> -+- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 GC> + Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) How do you like your ZyXEL modem? I love mine..... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1168 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/10/93 11:14a Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas > >> and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified > >> subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in > > JD> Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of > thing > JD> and have it sent over the bird? > > I figured I get it out through either Softdist or one of the > Utilnet's (I think it's 2 that goes over the sat feed). It's Let us know the filename and we can freq it from you in the meantime. Keep up the positive attitude. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1169 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 11:15a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Timothy! > > In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: > > TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the > echomailTW> goes through. > > Got it here in Middle Tennessee. > Joe Hey, I'm in middle Tn. YOu are in lower-middle Tn. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1170 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 12/09/93 9:57p Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools BH> ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* BH> ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 BH> ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) BH> is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be BH> done to get it on the dish? They should be coming over the dish...... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1171 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 6:36p Subj: Re: rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! BG Hopefully soon! Just waiting on Bonnie. ....Boyd Please convince her to use your service. We are a RIME BBS and it would be great to pull in the RIME echoes via satellite. I think the problem is that she has too many options presented to her at the moment and doesn't know which one to choose. * 1st 1.10 #310s * Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1172 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 12/11/93 1:36p Subj: Re: Is This Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Foxy Ferguson to Rf Tolli <=- FF> Yep, ya made it to the bird. Welcome! Haleleulah!! Grin- this is all sorta overwelming for a country boy! Thanks for the welcome- I'm happy to BE here, finally! -RFT- AKA "Troll" ... Running a BBS is like nailing Jello to a tree. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1173 To: ALL Date: 12/11/93 1:48p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I was just wondering what BBS software some of you are using with PC. With the coming of Usenet, among other things, I want to hear your suggestions on what is good for the users. I want to offer all the areas as non-passthru and also want to allow downloading via QWK. What mail door will handle all the newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the confs. Also, what tosser will import these areas QUICKLY into the BBS. So far, I see that Maximus is best for this, but is there anything else I might try before opening my BBS to the public? Thanks in advance for any suggestions and comments. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1174 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 11:12a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks to ALL of you who responded with some vewry helpful suggestions on how best to automate a PC setup! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1175 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/10/93 11:12a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA>I didn't see anything in P_C's info about a 4 foot Ku dish. Do you know if t MA>have one or just a 2 foot and 3 foot? I guess I should ask Boyd. I saw a 4 ft Ku in the info file for the Canadian group .. so I'm sure you can get a 4 ft Ku dish. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1176 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/09/93 5:56p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > then I guess you don't need repeats. Remember it only takes ONE error > for you to miss a mail bundle! Sure, you'll say "but I'd just freq t > from Boyd"; but you might not say that if you were in Bermuda! > If Planet Connect stops repeating the mail and you don't get everything > the when it is sent, it is lost for good. Not everyone can afford Worst of all, how do you even know that you missed anything, let alone *what* you missed? Dunno about you, but I don't have the *time* to poke around every single day, just to see if I missed something. It damn well *better* be repeated! :-) --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARL NAVARRO Number: 1177 To: CHRIS CHILDS Date: 12/07/93 8:37p Subj: Re: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Chris Childs to All <=- CC> Hey anybody: CC> I just got into this planet connect and thing and i was just CC> wondering. About how much would it cost me to get it all connected to CC> my house? I am talking the software and hardware required. How much CC> would all of that be total? Send us all your money and we'll give you back what's left :-). Depends. What are ya gonna do with it? If you just capture the data on a machine, a 100MB HD would be O.K. A 286 should do that without a problem. So, all ya need is the Satellite system and a computer to collect it. Now, did you want to do someting else with the data? Perhaps a network would be in order, something to munch the mail, and, don't forget the BBS. The satellite is easy. $550 or so (Ku band), $40/month for service, find a computer to store the data on, and buy Netware 1.1 (Cards at $50 each, software at $69 each). This adds the Filebone to your present system. Now, you might want a third machine to munch the mail so that the PC machine can continuously collect data, and the associated network card and software. You can easily add another $4-500 to your cost. Is it worth it? You bet your bottom! Not only do you get FIDO, but all the files in the SDN and some other networks, as well as Usenet, the Worthless Weather and TV listings (oops PERKS!). As time goes on, this will be the only way to go! Newsaholics unite! Carl Navarro ... Use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment area. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: ELmwood eXchange Bowling Green, OH 419-353-5024 (1:234/59) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1178 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/10/93 10:48p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on if I take down the satellite software and run it from the JD> server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! The setup that we have is quite simple. We run the software under Desqview. When the batch file drops to the maintainance task it spawns another batch job to run DSZ. DSZ in turn sends the data to the processor machine at 38400 baud (using an 8250 which is OK for transmission only) and a task on the OS/2 machine(TE/2) picks up the data and deposits it in the inbound. After DSZ runs it deletes the data, then batch job/task ends. The main processing task just looks for data in the inbound when ever it is not busy and tosses the mail. There are four outbound lines at 14400 and the serial inbound line at 38400 (16550 of course) and the OS/2 machine can receive/toss and send mail continuously with about 56 percent CPU usage. The stand alone machine is a 486 - 16 bit wide IBM clone motherboard 4 meg ram at 25x2 Mhz with a 100 meg IDE hard drive. This provides lots of space. The OS/2 machine is an Intel 486 33Mhz - 16 meg ram with a 1 gig drive. The actual usage for the mail and files is more in the neighbourhood of 330 Meg. for BBS usage. The events must be set to poll the sites each hour with the lines staggered at every half hour. This is also set into the BBS schedule (MAX - events00.bbs) so that the mail has a chance to get out on a timely basis. I have developed a Rexx script to automate most aspects of hadling the mail under OS/2. If anybody is interested freq. control.zip when my system is not busy - good luck! --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1179 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/11/93 1:34p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/10/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> > Hello Timothy! JD> > JD> > In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: JD> > JD> > TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the JD> > echomailTW> goes through. JD> > JD> > Got it here in Middle Tennessee. JD> > Joe JD> Hey, I'm in middle Tn. YOu are in lower-middle Tn. Oh well 75 miles off ehh. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Reality is for people who can't handle computers. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ROBERT Number: 1180 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/11/93 10:03a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> BDOS_258 ZIP 297990 12-01-93 11:15p TB> you may be interested in the docs: TB> This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this TB> software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by TB> Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. The penalties TB> for such transgressions are very severe: we will get pissed TB> off and send you a copy of someone else's software to run TB> (whichever one happens to REALLY scare you most). You have TB> been warned. TB> I was a little stunned that software bearing such a warning [...] Terry, I'm pretty sure that this is tongue-in-cheek to the max. The Binkley trio are saying in a roundabout way that this is beta software and not to complain if your system gets fried. That same warning has been on all the betas in my recollection. -Mike --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Brave New World / NEC3638 (1:3638/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1181 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/11/93 3:05p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! Wednesday December 08 1993, Tim Brown writes to Robert Watson: TB> Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe TB> database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it TB> set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. Would that number, for checking dupes, not be on an echo tag by echo tag basis. eg 32,000 dup per echotag... that is the way it works in Squish and QM at least. 32,000 seems like a terribly high number and must eat up incredible amounts of disk. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1182 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 12/11/93 9:32p Subj: Tic'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Foxy In a message to Steve Perlo <12/10/93> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> Ola' Steve. Better idea! Let's persuade Mark Gibson or Rudolf Rothemund FF> to hatch PCHECK out in Utilnet2. Then we can ALL get it. Great Idea Foxy! Who do you think we should bug first. BTW I love your opening line (Ola'). Hope to be at the next Mediate meeting.. * WCE 1.10/2008 * KLEPTOMANIA! Take something for it! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1183 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/10/93 8:02a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith, I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1184 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/11/93 2:01a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Terry Blount writes: TB>This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this TB>software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by TB>Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. TB> I was a little stunned that software bearing such a TB>warning would be distributed via the Filebone? It's a wide beta release sanctioned by Vince. He just distributed the same file that most of the beta testers had been using. Got your attention, huh? :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 1185 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:32p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin stated these words of wisdom to Dennis Powers: > Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). BG> BG> Tried that. I think he is starting to catch on to my BG> canadien ways. Boyd, I am very interested in hooking up to the plannet connect system and am considering purchasing it in the very near future. I do not have a dish at the moment and imagine I would be buying it with the system to make sure it works correctly. How much would this cost me for everything I need to start and then is there a monthly fee? How do I need to pay, etc.? Please respond. Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1186 To: JOSH HEIZMAN Date: 12/12/93 5:22a Subj: FastEcho and QWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Josh Heizman, in a message to All, you wrote: JH> A) Does anyone with a PC Satellite (which I would think JH> would just about be all of you ) run FastEcho?? Josh, We're running it here with no problems. John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1187 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/12/93 11:55a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EJ>Hello Tim! EJ>Wednesday December 08 1993, Tim Brown writes to Robert Watson: EJ> TB> Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe EJ> TB> database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it EJ> TB> set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. EJ>Would that number, for checking dupes, not be on an echo tag by echo tag EJ>basis. EJ>eg 32,000 dup per echotag... that is the way it works in Squish and QM at EJ>least. EJ>32,000 seems like a terribly high number and must eat up incredible amounts EJ>d EJ>isk. EJ>Cheers, Ervin If it be an area limit instead of a global limit, I would have an issue with it. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1188 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/12/93 7:59a Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message base > converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate works? I'm > running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. Look around at any RADIST site (sorry I purged mine...accidentally ): for a file called MKNET???.* Supports JAM, Squish, Hudson, and *.MSG See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1189 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/08/93 10:17p Subj: ROUTED NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 73 de VE3CUZ on same bird --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1190 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 10:36p Subj: USENET FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I am relative new to the usenet/internet arena, and presumably you are too. So I am hoping that you or someone else can tell me/us how we're can handle some of the logistics behind setting up the newsgroups via PC. I presently have a feed from a local system, and may wish to feed him. However, the problem I forsee in the mean time is how I process inbound newsgroups via PC and send outbound mail to my landline link. Any thoughts, ideas? Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1191 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/12/93 9:57p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It does allow you to create an icon but it all has to be done manually. > We need a utility that works in a batch file. Well hopefully someone will write one one of these days. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1192 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/12/93 9:59p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I had to play with the recommended settings to get one that works for > me.. was > almost at the very top of the list - far away from the most recommended - > before I started getting error-free reception.. had I not had an > ex-satellite > tech here to play around with these things I'd probably be only getting > 30% of > the files right now Well it varies with either the location or the data-receiver. Each receiver is tested before being allowed to be shipped with the normal settings. We do not get any errors off a 3 foot ku or the 7.5 foot c-band. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1193 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/12/93 10:00p Subj: Re: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 002 worked MUCH MUCH better. I got TONS of errors "repositioning" during > the 001 file. .002 tossed just fine. Yap. I think that I will have to toss in toss out. I will be trying 12 bit compression on the bag file and still compress the pcusnet files with pkzip just to see what happens. ...boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1194 To: NICK ASHTON-HART Date: 12/12/93 10:01p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ^^^^^ > Looks like it's too late already. never too late, just too tired. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1195 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:03p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JB? I figured you boys would be burning Tennessee Lemonaid. :-) Now Dave remember. I am not from here. The closest we can get to that lemonaid is Newfoundland screech and that use to burn my stomach. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1196 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:07p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink > and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will > advise. Funny how I could connect with you at anytime. > I still haven't decided whether I'm keeping the ISDN or not. Equipment > cost are still a question. I hope the price is reasonable. > BTW, got the equipment. No instructions however... but that never > stopped me before. Say which side goes toward the satellite? Convex or > concave side? Well thats because we wanted everyone to get aqqainted with thier equipment. If we told you how to put it together then it take all the fun out of learning what it does.;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1197 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:07p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ha! Yeh, well be happy you still have some hair. I'm gaining this > increasingly polished spot on front from going " Oh No!!" a little > too often. :-) What's that blonde joke? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1198 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/12/93 10:14p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I realize you're up against a stiff learning curve, but, had anyone in > your > organization ever been involved in moving echomail before? This isn't > meant to be a smartass question, it's just that some of the answers I'm > seeing don't indicate even a basic knowledge of routing and how it works. Yap me. I have been fido for about 4 years now. I know about routing and what is involved. John said it best on exactly what will have to be done for return mail from John to the systems that connect with me. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1199 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/12/93 10:42p Subj: Re: is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are the guidelines for a network to be transmitted via the bird? I > have a small network here with about 30 boards, that we started in 1988. > Thanks in advance Best call by voice on that one. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1200 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/12/93 10:43p Subj: Re: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Those systems are at it again...... > 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and > 'round the > atmosphere........ > Can they be stopped I've done some changes here that will hopefully catch those things and not let em go though. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1201 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/12/93 10:45p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > out of dv the pc seems solid enough..every once in a while i see that it > has not snatched a mail packet...dv gets numerous errors..well i see > know errors...i only see about half the files i should...i have upgraded > to dos 6.02, qemm 7.03, dv 2.61 and checked hyperdisk. I'm at a > loss..working a a 286/12 to throw on the network to handle it. Well guy I wish I could help you but I dont know Sh*t about Dv. I am sure soem of the guys/gals in here could help you out. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1202 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/12/93 10:46p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. Got ya here too Rf. Welcome.... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1203 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/12/93 10:51p Subj: Re: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > modified software or be left out. I'm sure there are good reasons, both > technical and market, for using .Bag files. And my software loves them. > I'm just enjoying whining today. ;-) If your software loves em then we dont change anything. What if we said we were going to put it in our own style and had every software company out there make changes to thier software to suite us. I would imagin that they would do it but if they have it aready done to work with PageSat then we sould keep it in that format. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1204 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/12/93 10:51p Subj: Re: Is this getting out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We are > finally > connected to Planet Connect. Got you here.... ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1205 To: JOE MEADORS Date: 12/12/93 10:52p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just curious to know how your efforts are progressing in getting your > promotional video duplicated and distributed to those - like myself - who > have asked for information about Planet Connect. We are getting about all caught up. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1206 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/12/93 10:56p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well dont worry everyone else is going to bitch too.....You just sent > about 50 corrupted and grundged message reports thru to everyone > today.....:) Thats a loop that one system keeps routing back to me then over the bird. I made a few changes here and hopefully it will catch those messages. > Agreed.....Until you state that you will.....at that point you obligate > yourself to return those that are undeliverable. Well if I have it set up to send everything to John then it would not be a problem. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1207 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 12/12/93 10:56p Subj: Re: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number > of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most I'm working on it. I think someone is just not being nice to me! ..boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1208 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/12/93 10:57p Subj: Re: rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Please convince her to use your service. We are a RIME BBS and > it would be great to pull in the RIME echoes via satellite. I think the > problem is that she has too many options presented to her at the moment > and doesn't know which one to choose. Man its hard to convince a shrink! ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1209 To: KYLE HEARN Date: 12/12/93 10:59p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am very interested in hooking up to the plannet connect system > and am considering purchasing it in the very near future. I do not have a > dish at the moment and imagine I would be buying it with the system to > make sure it works correctly. How much would this cost me for everything > I need to start and then is there a monthly fee? How do I need to pay, > etc.? Please respond. Kyle please freq PCINFO.TXT from our saystem and it will tell you the cost and services availible to you over the satellite. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1210 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 12/12/93 11:03p Subj: Re: USENET FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > However, the problem I forsee in the mean time is how I process inbound > newsgroups via PC and send outbound mail to my landline link. Any > thoughts, ideas? Well its all greek to me. I can see where you are coming from and have not even thought of this. Maybe someone here can shed some light. ...boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1211 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/12/93 11:03p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of here you'll get it from > John's system... -:) If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1212 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/12/93 3:06p Subj: areafix and Planet connec Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KS>I was helping a friend (Ken Carpenter 1:14/608) set up Planet Connect last >weekend. We were trying to figure a way to set up areafix (v1.3) and PC. W >we wanted is to have the system he feeds be able to request whatever area is >fidonet.na & .no and have it immediately add the area. Without having to >forward the request and wait for something to come into bad messages. Is th >a way of doing this that we may have overlooked? I'm sure Boyd doesn't real >want requests forwarded to him. And we have the bad message area set very >small to dump out all the excess messages he isn't using to save space. I added the fidonet.na & .no lists to my mail tosser with a p for pass through on all but local conferences. Because it's a defined area it doesn't get in bad area, because it's already setup as pass through, areafix works with no intervention on my part. If there are no down links taking the echo area, the message is vaporized. The extra pass throughs slow down processing slightly but simplify my job. Michael þ QMPro 1.51 þ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1213 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/12/93 9:23p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to All: RH> the newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the RH> confs. Also, what tosser will import these areas QUICKLY RH> into the BBS. So far, I see that Maximus is best for this, RH> but is there anything else I might try before opening my BBS RH> to the public? I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a second, this including the unpacking time and everything, and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I have heard of is like 30 msgs a second, and when you get 12000 + msgs a day, that 20/sec is going to be something to consider, but squish is free, fmail isn't. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1214 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 1:24a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Least you still have some!!! -> -> 33 and a full set of hair. Isn't life grand? -> -> 45, bald and what's left is 95% GRAY!!! But, I LOVE IT!! :) --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1215 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 1:26a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. -> -> -> Thats a John Morano question. Hey John can you help him out? -> -> -> ...Boyd I sent him Net Mail and he replied right away with a voice number. Spent about an hour on the phone with him. Seems he lived about 3 miles from me in NJ up till 14 years ago!!! Geee, ain't the world small!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1216 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/12/93 2:10a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some horre -> storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninform -> since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to -> them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despit -> bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not heavily -> -> Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. -> -> -> --)@ Patty @(-- -> Hi Patty!! Well, I too can vouch for the 3 ft Ku. I'm up in New Jersey and have had some rather nasty weather since I went on-line. The dish has so far made it through 40 to 50 mph winds with no movement and no signal loss. Today, we had our first snow. The heavy wet kind. Not a lot of accumulation, but the visibilty was down to maybe 200 feet. No problem what so ever!!! So far.....so good!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1217 To: TROLL Date: 12/12/93 2:09a Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> help!!!!! -> --- FreeMail 1.09 -> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * -> (1:3605/666) Got it in NJ! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1218 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 1:25a Subj: Dish Allignment - Errors - Etc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have finally got everything installed here, but am having a few problems. I have a good strong signal coming in, the data light is doing its thing and when I run the PCSKY progam it shows all the data coming in, shows what the file name is that is arriving etc. Only problem is that I'm getting mostly errors with the status line shows things like TUB, TUT and TCB. Is this an antenna alignment problem, or is it something I need to adjust in the software or the dip switches or whatever. Weird thing is that I had them send me a new satellite data receiver as the first one had a faultly power supply, and I notice that the dip switch settings on the new receiver are different than the first one they sent me. Are the settings different for each receiver, or are they suppose to be the same for all of them? I am using the Ku receiver from Westonia in Ontario. Any help from anyone with similar experiences would be appreciated. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 1219 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 1:28a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS JD> that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a JD> half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my JD> downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. JD> JD> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. That's what I did with my setup. I use Squish and Seal. When I switched to that method I went from 13 messages/second to 9. However, not having to do anything with the downlinks makes up for it. :) I was hoping Areafix may of had a way around that. Maybe in the future. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1220 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/12/93 11:22p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The setup that we have is quite simple. We run the software under > Desqview. When the batch file drops to the maintainance task it spawns > another batch job to run DSZ. DSZ in turn sends the data to the > processor machine at 38400 baud (using an 8250 which is OK for > transmission only) and a task on the OS/2 machine(TE/2) picks up the > data and deposits it in the inbound. After DSZ runs it deletes the data, WOW, what an interesting idea! I never would have thought of that. Such a grandiose idea deserves a pat on the back. > then batch job/task ends. The main processing task just looks for data > in the inbound when ever it is not busy and tosses the mail. There are > four outbound lines at 14400 and the serial inbound line at 38400 (16550 > of course) and the OS/2 machine can receive/toss and send mail > continuously with about 56 percent CPU usage. The stand alone machine is Doesn't that slow the bbs down a little? 4 lines all transmitting would certainly be affected by an inbound 38.4 connection, wouldn't it? At any rate, it's an ingenious solution, and I'm writing that one down in my little book of tricks ;) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1221 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/12/93 11:24p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when > unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. With RAID it's simple. Define where your AREAS.BBS is, where your inbound subdir is, and which systems have the ability to "create" file areas. Quite a few more definitions will be necessary, but these are the most important. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN NEPTUNE Number: 1222 To: TROLL Date: 12/12/93 8:04p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> help!!!!! What!!! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1223 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 10:31p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of them. Thanks... --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1224 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/11/93 11:48a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... BG> BG> Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come BG> thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up BG> from my hub. Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of here you'll get it from John's system... -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1225 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/11/93 11:49a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to > John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak PP> Yep, saw your message re: this in FILE_MOVERS, Jim. I was debating on PP> whether or not to copy the original message there but PP> you beat me to it. Files, more Files! -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1226 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 9:58a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Internet usenet groups are working flawlessly over here, what's the chance of getting more of them in the near future??? I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as well, so we are ready! Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. etc,etc,etc... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1227 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/11/93 8:57p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: DO> In a msg on , Sean Peoples writes: DO> Really? One of my downlink hubs is using d'Bridge and I DO> have no problem with him. As well as several other systems DO> locally using d'Bridge with no problem. Strange. From the BinkleyTerm 2.58 "What's New" file: ===%cut here%=== Changes in BinkleyTerm 2.58 from 2.57 ------------------------------------- In addition to several changes to the EMSI logic, log any EMSI keyword we don't understand. This will be instrumental in figuring out why we still occasionally have EMSI parsing problems with some D'Bridge systems. ===%cut here%=== DO> I'll accept what you say, wonder if it's just certain DO> versions or what? Also could be exagerated by the ISDN DO> speed. Oh well..... Well, the clip you see above (besides personal experiences being unable to connect to D'Bridge), is all the info I have, sorry... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1228 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/11/93 9:00p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: BG> Got that right! >:-) Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1229 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 11:19p Subj: 1st Transmit of the day Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Was just curious if there's a particular start time each day for the new stuff? Right now I have to drop out of other DV tasks to collect SAT data, then bring the nodes back on-line. Problem is I will possibly miss data if I don't start the retrieval quick enough. I tried using 9am and found that I missed some of the first 2-3 bundles (QWK) of mail. I'm not processing that so it isn't a big deal. So my question is: "Is there a scheduled start for each day?" I know the data is repeated, but would like to get it first time around. Thanks for any help from out there..... Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 1230 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/12/93 5:15p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> move it back to the BBS'S outbound Dir. I also run ALLFIX now to -> clean out all the new inbound Files/Tic I just set up ALLFIX and tried it. Why am I getting error messages like this when it runs? Processing TK445535.TIC from 1:3615/50 À (by TICK v2.10 (C) Copyright Barry Geller - 1988,1989,1990,1991,1992) Area WIN_GRAF File WMF2RIP.ZIP Msg BadSec violation from : 1:3615/50 Msg Moving bad TIC file to 'V:\ALLFIX\BADTIC\' Msg Moving orphaned file 'WMF2RIP.ZIP' to 'V:\ALLFIX\BADTIC\' Every file that ALLFIX tries to process goes to the badtic dir. Is this how you have it set up in node manager in asetup? System 1:3615/50 Sysop boyd goodin File echo password PCSYS AreaMgr password Authorized groups 0 Use aka 1:3615/51 Mail archive status None Direct No TIC file mode Normal TIC file Packing mode No packing Include message file Yes Send notify list No Forward requests No Allow Auto-add No Remote maintenance No Compression type ZIP I also have 1:3615/50 added to each area under systems in file echo manager. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1231 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/13/93 7:28a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Thanks to ALL of you who responded with some vewry helpful suggestions on -> how best to automate a PC setup! Welcome to PC, John! --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1232 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 12/13/93 9:08p Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just wanted to send out a howdy test message. So howdy! BTW, which area do most of the 3615/51 systems use to talk to each other, this one or the PC-Sites??? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 1233 To: TROLL Date: 12/13/93 6:46p Subj: IS ANYONE SEEING THIS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > help!!!!! > ___ FreeMail 1.09 > + Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * "Troll" ? Made it to MidAmerica!!! --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1234 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/13/93 11:37p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! TL> With RAID it's simple. Define where your AREAS.BBS is, where your inboun TL> subdir is, and which systems have the ability to "create" file areas. Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where do I contact to get a copy? Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * This is an egg... this is an egg on a 486DX-50 cpu... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1235 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/13/93 5:17p Subj: DISH ALLIGNMENT - ERRORS - ETC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any help from anyone with similar experiences would be appreciated. Have you tried increasing the Gain by turning the blue knob on the back of the receiver? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTONIO RIVEROS Number: 1236 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/13/93 7:50p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I was just wondering what BBS software some of you are using with PC. With -> coming of Usenet, among other things, I want to hear your suggestions on w -> is good for the users. I want to offer all the areas as non-passthru and a -> want to allow downloading via QWK. What mail door will handle all the -> newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the confs. Also, what -> tosser will import these areas QUICKLY into the BBS. So far, I see that Ma -> is best for this, but is there anything else I might try before opening my -> to the public? I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to something like maximus. Antonio Riveros --- WM v3.10/91-0090 * Origin: Hackers Haven BBS. 6+Gigs,Edmonton's Satellite Link (1:342/666.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1237 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 5:15a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. Features: @ It -will- run under 4DOS (PCUTIL doesnt and thats why SKYMAIL exists) @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs @ It allows you to specify files that you dont care if you get or not so that you can go ahead and process when the ones you want come in @ It transparently maintains SKYMAIL.IDX which is similar to CHECK.IDX except it keeps the day recieved and filesize of each file also. @ It logs files that were NOT recieved as well as those that were @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL -and- OTHER files recieved @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL files recieved @ It has an errorlevel for all OTHER non-mail files recieved @ It has a user definable time to exit with a specific errorlevel which is handy for those who want to process things -once- a day after a specific time regardless of whether everything was recieved @ It actually has a SKYMAIL.DOC file that tells you something :) @ It is FREEWARE :) --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1238 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/13/93 3:36a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I wrote myself a program, which takes all the -> fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory -> filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and -> writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. This program you wrote specific to YOUR system only? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1239 To: ALL Date: 12/13/93 8:10p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is a test message to see if I get any response. Got the satellite dish working yesterday and have been getting complete error-free reception, even during the heavy, heavy rain (40-50 mm yesterday), with dense cloud and fog. I'm somewhat impressed! Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its way back out onto the backbone. Anyone see this yet? Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1240 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/13/93 2:25p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. Hi Tolli! Good to see you here. Guess y'all got home okay after the BBS CON, eh? :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1241 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 2:30p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my 3 > mintutes of free time a day. Geez, you mean you get 3 whole minutes of uninterrupted free time a day, Boyd? We'll have to talk to your boss about that. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1242 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 2:33p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yey and the next thing I know I would come back and the whole system > will be down. Cant have that now. Just tell your boss & the other subscribers that you had a weekend of drunken debauchery down in Region 19 and I'm sure they'll understand... > > Beg... tell him it's good PR. > > > Weeeeeellll..... maybe! So tell him you have to meet with Souvestre over a :ahem: technical matter... in short, lie like a cheap rug. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1243 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/13/93 2:35p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Files, more Files! -:) :grunt: Need bigger hard drive. Hey, Pete Stern lives up in Alaska, do you suppose he'd let me route my netmail wishlist to Santa via his system, Jim? ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1244 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/13/93 2:37p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well, I too can vouch for the 3 ft Ku. > I'm up in New Jersey and have had some rather nasty > weather since I went on-line. > > The dish has so far made it through 40 to 50 mph > winds with no movement and no signal loss. Sounds good to me, Fred. We had another serious storm (high winds, lots of the wet stuff) and no errors, no signal loss, nada, nothing but mail and loads of filebone stuff. :) It's pretty windy up in Cheyenne, so it's good to hear that the wind isn't having adverse affects on your dish. How & where is yours mounted? Ours is up on the roof. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 1245 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/12/93 8:45p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW> They should be coming over the dish...... Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner, ZyX19.2k (613)521-0455 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1246 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 12:37a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! Friday December 10 1993, Jim Dunmyer writes to Keith Sippy: JD> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when JD> unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1247 To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 12/13/93 5:49a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB> BTW, this works great with DV! Now I can receive the datastream 24 JB> hours a day, have the BBS up 24 hours a day, and be able to read it JB> in another window. I was afraid I'd have to single-task until I buy JB> another CPU, but not now! I would be interested in knowing what your desqview setup is, I haven't had any luck here. I get a raft of errors if I attempt to do anything under desqview. I assume if I am geting errors things arn't working properly. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1248 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 3:41a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Keith, -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included al -> areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), a -> my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. -> -> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. -> -> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when unreco -> areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. Yes, Areafix can be set up to add, delete and pass on any and all echo requests automatically. We did that on 107/33 when the net approved picking up the entire Fidonet.na from George Peace. (13/13 or 270/101). Worked just fine. We are now using it to link and de-link active areas from our Plannet Connect down link. This same system will be used when I am ready to accept links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). Take care, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1249 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:58p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> netmail. I said I will try this and see. Seems I got the routing down -> thanks to one of our users. Looks that way, Boyd. The test message I sent thru you to John worked and it DIDN'T go over the dish!!!!! Amazing, isn't it (grin)..... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1250 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/11/93 4:58p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. I -> > works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if -> Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. It'll probably shiver a bit. Might want to put a stocking cap on it. You could even paint a couple of eyes, a nose and a mouth on it and make it look like a big face looking skyward.... --GRIN-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1251 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/12/93 9:28p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Subject: TIC's RR> RR> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's RR>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! RR> RR> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is RR>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as RR>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? RR> RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR> RR> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 Rudolf, I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get it to add files to my message base automatically. What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is available for Freq, let me know. Thanks Jacobo þ JFO þ Do less and accomplish more. --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLEN DAVIS Number: 1252 To: ALL Date: 12/13/93 6:59p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, the mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... ...now, any of this getting OUT? -Glen --- timEd-B9 * Origin: |=[Bloom Co. Hospital>=--- |[GRapids MI] (616)361-8345 (1:228/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 1253 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/13/93 7:30p Subj: Dish Allignment - Errors - Etc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> I have finally got everything installed here, but am GV> having a few problems. GV> I have a good strong signal coming in, the data light GV> is doing its thing and when I run the PCSKY progam it GV> shows all the data coming in, shows what the file name GV> is that is arriving etc. Only problem is that I'm GV> getting mostly errors with the status line shows things GV> like TUB, TUT and TCB. GV> Is this an antenna alignment problem, or is it GV> something I need to adjust in the software or the dip GV> switches or whatever. Hard to say without more information. Are you running under a multitasking or network enviornment. Doing say can cause loss of characters do to interrupt latency if the system is not configured properly to account for running in these enviornments. GV> Weird thing is that I had them send me a new satellite GV> data receiver as the first one had a faultly power GV> supply, and I notice that the dip switch settings on GV> the new receiver are different than the first one they GV> sent me. Are the settings different for each receiver, GV> or are they suppose to be the same for all of them? I GV> am using the Ku receiver from Westonia in Ontario. The switch settings have recently changed as the downlink frequency of the signal was changed to reduce errors caused by interference from another signal on a nearby frequency. Regards, Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1254 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 12/13/93 3:36p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave James wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he DJ> was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as DJ> well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. DJ> etc,etc,etc... BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON BRANDT Number: 1255 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 10:27p Subj: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please add me to the list for a mailed copy of TVAGENT Thanks Ron --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff086/c] * Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * 215-443-7390 * 6,000 SIGS! * (1:273/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1256 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/13/93 11:14p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GV> I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well GV> fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a GV> second, this including the unpacking time and everything, GV> and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I GV> have heard of is like 30 msgs a second, and when you get GV> 12000 + msgs a day, that 20/sec is going to be something to GV> consider, but squish is free, fmail isn't. Thanks for the response Guy. I will look into RA. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1257 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/13/93 8:40p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to All: TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the TM> .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of TM> interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup TM> areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of TM> them. just only put the groups you want in your mapfile, the resst will be dumped.. if you are using fred. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1258 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 4:07a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Dave James, Guy VanDell said: GV>BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? GV>I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV>current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV>connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number GV>is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. GV>If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV>possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? That's when I start saving $40 per month & connect this Ku band dish to my "other" satellite receiver and use it to watch TV [and get a life back!] --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 1259 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/13/93 12:57p Subj: Msgtoss Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Patty, I'm gonna have one of them there satellite receivers before christmas, and was wondering if your still running rbbs and using msgtoss for the mail. --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 1260 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/13/93 8:34p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith Sippy wrote in a message to Jim Dunmyer: JD> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS JD> that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a JD> half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my JD> downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. JD> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. KS> That's what I did with my setup. I use Squish and Seal. KS> When I switched to that method I went from 13 KS> messages/second to 9. However, not having to do anything KS> with the downlinks makes up for it. :) I was hoping Areafix KS> may of had a way around that. Maybe in the future. Put this in your AREAFIX.CTL file: NewAreasCreate 3615/50 When AREAFIX checks your BAD_MSGS area (where messages from undeclared areas go), it'll add the area to your AREAS.BBS, and your next toss, if you enable tossing from BAD_MSGS, will speed those messages along on their merry way. If you don't declare 'NewAreasNoPassThru' then they'll even be declared as pass-thru. That's how I built my entire AREAS.BBS. =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1261 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 1:59a Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like playing handball without a wall! -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1262 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 2:20a Subj: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No one more test post- and, if this one makes it, a request for the sysop version of TVAgent. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1263 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/13/93 6:14p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message TB> base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate TB> works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. You can Freq MKNET100.ARJ from 1:216/506 at speeds to 14400. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 1264 To: TROLL Date: 12/14/93 1:15p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No T> help!!!!! T> --- FreeMail 1.09 T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * ^^^^^^^^^ Sould I reply in brail?? Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1265 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/14/93 8:00a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson wrote in a message to Guy VanDell: MF> * In a message originally to Dave James, Guy VanDell said: GV>BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? GV>I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV>current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV>connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number GV>is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. GV>If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV>possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? MF> That's when I start saving $40 per month & connect this Ku MF> band dish to my "other" satellite receiver and use it to MF> watch TV [and get a life back!] you can still just dump the pcusenet stuff if you want.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1266 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/14/93 8:28p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights bl -> mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... -> -> ...now, any of this getting OUT? -> -> -> -> -Glen Nope. --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 1267 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/14/93 10:42p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND -> Subject: TIC's -> -> RR> -> RR> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it' -> RR>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! -> RR> -> RR> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to k -> RR>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such -> RR>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? -> RR> -> RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail f -> RR>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), -> RR>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named -> RR>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the f -> RR> -> RR> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 -> -> Rudolf, -> I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to -> Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still -> looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildca -> I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to ge -> it to add files to my message base automatically. -> -> What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is availab -> for Freq, let me know. -> Thanks -> Jacobo -> -> -> þ JFO þ Do less and accomplish more. -> -> -> --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 -> * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) Hello. I like Wildcat, too! I use WCFILE to import my files from the Filebone area intp my Wildcat message bases. What I did was to wrote a batch file that tests for the presence of the FILES.BBS created TIC when it processses a TIC file, and when it finds the file the batch file runs WCFILE. Here's an excerpt of my TICKIN.BAT file: ======================================================================= TICK >> C:\BINK\TICK\TICK.LOG :START cd\bink\nodelist\nodediff If exist files.bbs goto NODELIST cd\bink\treklist If exist files.bbs goto STARFLET goto EXIT :NODELIST del c:\bink\nodediff\fidolist\nodediff.a* copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodediff copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodediff\fidolist copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist cd\bink\nodelist\nodelist call xlaxnew.bat cd\bink\nodelist wildnode cd nodediff copy files.bbs c:\bink\nodediff del files.bbs cd\wc30 WCFILE /D:C:\bink\nodediff\files.bbs /P:1,12,34,80 /A:12 del c:\bink\nodediff\files.bbs cd\bink call mail5.bat goto START :TREKLIST del c:\bink\nodelist\treklist.* del c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist\treklist.* copy treklist.a* c:\bink\treklist copy treklist.a* c:\bink\nodelist copy treklist.a* c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist copy files.bbs c:\bink\treklist del treklist.A* del files.bbs cd\bink\nodelist pkxarc treklist.A* wildnode cd\bink\nodelist\nodelist call trek.bat cd\wc30 WCFILE /D:C:\bink\treklist\files.bbs /P:1,12,34,80 /A:15 del c:\bink\treklist\files.bbs del c:\bink\nodelist\treklist.A* del c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist\treklist.A* cd\bink call mail5.bat goto START ==================================================================== Hope this helps. If not, call my BBS and leave me a message and I'll go into more detail. Rudolf Rothemund, NC/NEC NET 2440 --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1268 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/14/93 7:07a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Keith, -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all those ->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now a ->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. Chuck p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1269 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 8:45p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of > here you'll get it from > John's system... -:) BG> BG> If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! If I send it to 3615/50, and route via John, betcha it will -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1270 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 12/13/93 8:46p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW> They should be coming over the dish...... JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? Pat sends 'em here, I pump 'em up to John, and he's feeding 'em there. Your ZC, do a test hatch and we'll see were it goes -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1271 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 6:34p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Dave James: GV> Dave James wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he DJ> was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as DJ> well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. DJ> etc,etc,etc... GV> BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? 3500 GV> I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV> current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV> connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This GV> number is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. compressed, probably around 30-40meg range per day... (guessing of course) GV> If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV> possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? Boyd says they are watching it, and it doenst' appear to be a problem... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ['dBest' Western Star, TBBS/TDBS/QSO/PIMP/internet]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 1272 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/14/93 5:39a Subj: Re: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is > Leave up to a consultant to use 4 computers for a 2 computer job. > Would you beleave a 1 computer job? WeCanDo, >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 1273 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/14/93 6:01a Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it >> works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he >> runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. > In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some > horrendous > storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninformed) > since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to any > of them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despite > the bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not > heavily. > Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. Here in Portland, OR we tend to have more ice then show. I was over at the dish site Satruday and never looked at it. I was to busy installing Allfix to send me all the file goodness that G3 can produce. At a 43+ degree latitude I doubt if the snow will effect it much anyway A few of the cronies went out a few dayes and realy shuch the dish a few days ago and couldn't produce enough signal loss to to degrade anything enough to produce an error. >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1274 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 7:42p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday December 12 1993, Dave James writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello Boyd! DJ> Internet usenet groups are working flawlessly over here, what's the chance DJ> of getting more of them in the near future??? DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he was able to DJ> convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. etc,etc,etc... with the obvious success just around the corner..I've been checking around town for a route back into internet and have found one. they're even interested in possibly getting a dish themselves to get internet mail as opposed to bringing it in via their dedicated connect. My question is, will PC being sending a FULL usenet feed over the bird? My friend tells me that they are currently bringing a bunch of the newsgroups but not all of them..he said around half..which has him at 100 megs (uncompressed) a day.. will pc be opening up a second channel for JUST usenet? cuz my friend went on to tell me the FULL feed is 200 megs (uncomp) a day Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday December 13 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1275 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/14/93 10:22p Subj: Routed netmail enroute Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come BG> thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up BG> from my hub. Dear Boyd: Sending you an echo routed netmail message tonight (Tuesday). Advise when and how you received it. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1276 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/14/93 7:12a Subj: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin, in a message to John Bierrie, you wrote: > I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number > of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most BG> I'm working on it. I think someone is just not being nice to me! Boyd, Hummm... If you happened to let slip "who" wasn't being nice, I'm sure we could come up with a "solution". :-)! John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB ROSS Number: 1277 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/14/93 11:43a Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glen! 13 Dec 93 18:59, Glen Davis wrote to All: GD> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, GD> the mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD> ...now, any of this getting OUT? No. Your message must have just dropped out of the sky here in Calgary :-) Bob --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: RJ's Byteline =[HST/DS]= (403) 247-3180 Calgary CANADA (1:134/75.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1278 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/14/93 7:54p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GV> I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well > GV> fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a > GV> second, this including the unpacking time and everything, > GV> and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I > > Thanks for the response Guy. I will look into RA. I run RA here and have a problem with it so far: 1) If you want all the message areas, you'll be limited to a mail processor that handles the JAM message base. I use Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes forever, especially if another machine is hitting the server :( --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1279 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/14/93 7:56p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where > do I contact to get a copy? Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 Filename: RAID0108.LZH File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p 24 hours per day, up to 14.4 v.32bis See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1280 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/14/93 5:39p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/13/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> I wrote myself a program, which takes all the JL> -> fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory JL> -> filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and JL> -> writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. JL> This program you wrote specific to YOUR system only? As it stands for now yes. I am trying to rewrite it to use a config file but haven't made much headway there yet. It is hard to imagine all the different ways it could go wrong and I haven't yet figured out how to read the confdesc.dat file for the information needed to make it work properly. Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it is not the best ether. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * He said "ENQ?". "NAK!", she replied. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1281 To: TROLL Date: 12/14/93 9:00p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Troll! In a message to All <12/10/93> Troll wrote: TT> TT> help!!!!! TT> --- FreeMail 1.09 TT> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * TT> (1:3605/666) Seeing what. * WCE 1.10/2107 * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN BENNETT Number: 1282 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/15/93 12:48a Subj: RE: SKYMAIL V1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 14 Dec 93 05:15am, GREG SHAFFER wrote to ALL: > Hello All! > Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile > implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite > without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP > It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you > want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 > anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. > Features: > @ It -will- run under 4DOS (PCUTIL doesnt and thats why SKYMAIL > exists) > @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs > @ It allows you to specify files that you dont care if you get or not > so that you can go ahead and process when the ones you want come in > @ It transparently maintains SKYMAIL.IDX which is similar to CHECK.IDX > except it keeps the day recieved and filesize of each file also. > @ It logs files that were NOT recieved as well as those that were > @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL -and- OTHER files recieved > @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL files recieved > @ It has an errorlevel for all OTHER non-mail files recieved > @ It has a user definable time to exit with a specific errorlevel > which is handy for those who want to process things -once- a day > after a specific time regardless of whether everything was recieved > @ It actually has a SKYMAIL.DOC file that tells you something :) > @ It is FREEWARE :) Hello Greg... Where can I get a copy of Skymail? Sounds just like what I need.. Alan Bennett (TES SOFTWARE) ... Backup not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12313 --- WM v3.10/93-1048 * Origin: Terminal Entry BBS * (910)895-0368 * 1:3634/32 (1:3634/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1283 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/14/93 12:01a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on Doesn't that slow the bbs down a little? 4 lines all TL> transmitting would certainly be affected by an inbound 38.4 TL> connection, wouldn't it? Not in the least - except for a user searching for messages in the bases of course. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1284 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 4:57p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the > TM> .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of > TM> interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup > TM> areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of > TM> them. > > just only put the groups you want in your mapfile, the resst will be > dumped.. if you are using fred. Nope, I use PIMP, which is an integrated optional module for TBBS. It also will send any non-defined newsgroups to nul but I don't want to waste bbs machine processor time sorting it all out. I'd rather process the .BAG files on a nanny machine quickly and give only newsgroups in .BAG format to my bbs machine to toss. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1285 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 6:46p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is just FYI for future reference: Awhile ago I mentioned an oddity I was having with the PC software always catching a bad block when I turned on my monitor for a quick look to see all was OK. It was my guess at the time it was a power supply problem or an anomoly in the video handling code. It was neither. I had my data receiver balanced on top of the monitor, an older Nec Multisync II, and the EMF surge caused a spurious bad block. Boyd suggested I move the receiver and try it -- problem corrected and chalk one up for Boyd. The data receiver eventually got moved over next to the bbs machine and the same thing popped up when the bbs hard drives got a good work out. The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a Faraday cage around it. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1286 To: ALL Date: 12/16/93 7:49a Subj: Moving South Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey folks, I'm moving from Atlanta to Miami. Can I use my 7 ft C-band system that far south? The video says that I'll need a 10 ft dish.... tim migrating moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1287 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/15/93 3:36p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Patty Pickett to Rf Tolli <=- PP> Hi Tolli! Good to see you here. Guess y'all got home okay after PP> the BBS CON, eh? :) Hiya, Patty!! Grin- well, we DID get home... OK is open to discussion! Nothing two or three weeks in hospital and a massive infusion of money wouldn't cure, I guess! Fortunately, the next one is in OUR neck of the woods (Maggie even has kin living in ATL), so we are getting our apps in for it early. I talked myself into this Fido thing because the PC beam even reached into our deep woods, but it's been... shall we say.. a *learning* experience! Even as I type this, I have no idea if it's going to go out... seems like some do, and some don't. sigh. -RFT- ... Running a BBS is like Russian Roulette with an automatic pistol. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1288 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 12/15/93 3:39p Subj: Re: Is anyone seeing this Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Thomas Hatton to Troll <=- T> ! Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * TH> ^^^^^^^^^ TH> Sould I reply in brail?? Hee! The motto at our board is an old Southerism to the effect that "Even a blind hog finds an acorn eventually"- sorta describes how we work. -RF Tolli- AKA "Troll" ... Running a BBS is like stringing beads without a knot in the string. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1289 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/15/93 3:42p Subj: Re: AREAFIX AND PLANET CO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Chuck Warren to Jim Dunmyer <=- CW> Chuck CW> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. THAT one I would love to have! -RFT- ... Running a BBS is like nailing Jello to a tree. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1290 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/15/93 3:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone seeing this Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Lyda to Troll <=- TT> help!!!!! TT> ! Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * TT> (1:3605/666) JL> Seeing what. Sorry about that- a desparate plea to the electron gods, I guess. FD and I do *not* get along well! -RF Tolli- AKA "Troll" ... The mome rath never lived that could out-gabe ME! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1291 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/15/93 12:00p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GD>The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, th >mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD>...now, any of this getting OUT? GD> -Glen nope, but 4 out of 5 ain't bad Mike þ QMPro 1.51 þ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1292 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 1:59a Subj: GETTING OUT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 5/50 374/1 -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like playing handball without a wall! -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1293 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 2:20a Subj: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 374/1 one more test post- and, if this one makes it, a request for the sysop version of TVAgent. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 1294 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/15/93 10:51a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of >> here you'll get it from >> John's system... -:) > BG> > BG> If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! > If I send it to 3615/50, and route via John, betcha it will -:) Jim: The star hubs send all routed netmail via the region hubs... Rick --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1295 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 12/15/93 3:58p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thomas Hatton wrote in a message to Troll: T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * TH> ^^^^^^^^^ TH> Sould I reply in brail?? That's "Braille"... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1296 To: ANTONIO RIVEROS Date: 12/15/93 10:28p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Antonio Riveros wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: AR> I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, AR> and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the AR> BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard AR> wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to AR> something like maximus. But will it let you set up over 7,000 areas? This is what it will come down to when Boyd feeds us the Newsgroups. And is it fast for the 666 (nice number) fido areas we now have? Is there a built in QWK mail function or a door that will let you have this many areas? Once, a long time ago, I considered using Wildcat and the reason I decided not to is that the file search function is s...l...o...w! If it were faster, (9 cd-rom drives) I might have gone with it. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1297 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/15/93 10:33p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to All: GV> This is a test message to see if I get any response. Hi Glen, you have made it to Ocean City, NJ (near the beach) with some severe winds and lottsa rain! No errors here with a 3 ft. KU! Good work PC! GV> Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its GV> way back out onto the backbone. Not on the backbone, but in this conference at least! ;-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1298 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/15/93 10:37p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I run RA here and have a problem with it so far: TL> 1) If you want all the message areas, you'll be limited to TL> a mail processor that handles the JAM message base. I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes forever, TL> especially if another machine is hitting the server :( I freq'd RA 2.01 and thought it looked pretty good. I am glad you told me this. Well Maximus isn't the prettiest BBS around, but it seems to fit our needs. I suppose aside from these few mentioned BBS programs, PCBoard may be a 1/2 decent alternative. I just hate spending money on software when it can be used for hardware. I would need to purchase a PcBoard/M, FidoPcb, fido-uucp, etc., However, it looks like it is Max in the running. Anyone else care to enlighten us as to what problems or successes you are coming accross with your current configuration? I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to Searchlight and now to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Thanks for the response Todd, it really is helping me to gather this data! :-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANA HUGGARD Number: 1299 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 12:00a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have no messages here? I am connected? ____ \TF/ TERRA-FIRMA-BBS / Serving the Amiga Community. \/ FidoNet 1:153/765.0 LDSHub - AmigaNet 40:800/765.0 (ADS/SAN) Internet: Dana_Huggard@tfbbs.Wimsey.COM --- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail v2.52 * Origin: TERRA FIRMA BBS (1:153/765) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1300 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/15/93 10:59p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! In a message to Jim Dunmyer <12/13/93> Ervin Jay wrote: EJ> Hello Jim! EJ> Friday December 10 1993, Jim Dunmyer writes to Keith Sippy: EJ> JD> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when EJ> JD> unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. EJ> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where I can freq it. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Stand back! It's a Beta! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1301 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/15/93 11:03p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! In a message to Jim Dunmyer <12/13/93> Fred Seibel wrote: FS> Yes, Areafix can be set up to add, delete and pass on any and all FS> echo requests automatically. FS> We did that on 107/33 when the net approved picking up the entire FS> Fidonet.na from George Peace. (13/13 or 270/101). FS> Worked just fine. FS> We are now using it to link and de-link active areas from FS> our Plannet Connect down link. FS> This same system will be used when I am ready to accept FS> links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). Fred could you put AREAFIX and your AREAFIX.CTL file where I can freq it for me. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1302 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/15/93 11:08p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glen! In a message to All <12/13/93> Glen Davis wrote: GD> GD> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, GD> mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD> ...now, any of this getting OUT? Got it here in ALMOST Middle Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Always assume the second try will be different. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1303 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/15/93 11:11p Subj: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ron! In a message to Boyd Goodin <12/13/93> Ron Brandt wrote: RB> Please add me to the list for a mailed copy of TVAGENT What mailed TVAGENT? Is there a change that has slipped past me? Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1304 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/15/93 11:17p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! In a message to All <12/13/93> Glenn Vermette wrote: GV> This is a test message to see if I get any response. GV> Got the satellite dish working yesterday and have been getting complete GV> error-free reception, even during the heavy, heavy rain (40-50 mm yesterd GV> with dense cloud and fog. I'm somewhat impressed! GV> Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its way back out on GV> the backbone. GV> Anyone see this yet? See what?? Oh ya I see it now here in next to Middle Tennesee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1305 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/15/93 11:50p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Thomas Beal <12/13/93> John Jamieson wrote: JJ> TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM messag JJ> TB> base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate JJ> TB> works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. JJ> You can Freq MKNET100.ARJ from 1:216/506 at speeds to 14400. Tried to freq the above file and got ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ» º M O U N T A I N R E T R E A T º º º º *** B B S *** º º º º (408)335-4595 Felton California Fido Net 1:216/506 º º º ÌÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͹ º Only files that are Home Based at Mt. Retreat and º º BBS/BBS_support files are FREQ'ABLE from Mountain º º Retreat. º º º º Freq FILES for a list of those FREQ'ABLE Files or Freq º º one or all of the following for a list of files º º available for Download when logged on Mountain Retreat. º º º º FILELIST.ARJ Main Board Files º º FILELST2.ARJ Art Conference Files º º FILELST3.ARJ Programming Conference Files º º FILELST4.ARJ Ham Radio/ TVRO/ Electronics Files º º º ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ What gives. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * If it is not ready to freq then send it. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1306 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/15/93 11:41p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/14/93> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> > Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where TL> > do I contact to get a copy? TL> Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 TL> Filename: RAID0108.LZH TL> File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p Got it coming in at 14.4 right now. Thanks * WCE 1.10/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1307 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/15/93 10:47p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tracy! 14 Dec 93, Tracy Mickley writes to All: TM> receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept away TM> from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a Faraday TM> cage around it. You obviously didn't read the fine print on the back of the installation instructions [laughing].... you know.. the part about the Faraday cage, the salt pit and the 18 ft ground stakes. :-)) Dennis ps: sorry, I just couldn't resist. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1308 To: Date: 12/14/93 2:56p Subj: Notice Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1309 To: Date: 12/14/93 9:57p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1310 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 12/15/93 10:42a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James! 12 Dec 93 20:45, James McOrmond wrote to Jim Watson: JM> In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH>> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW>> They should be coming over the dish...... JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish.... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1311 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/15/93 10:47a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 07 Dec 93 23:26, Brian Hess wrote to Boyd Goodin: BH> Hello Boyd! BH> Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware BH> Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools BH> ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* BH> ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 BH> ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) could you PLEASE check your up link and make sure the above is turn on...I have not received any files in the above areas off the dish. I know some have been released recently.... Let me know if need any more info... thanks a lot.. Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1312 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/15/93 11:05p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one -> needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the -> filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 -> and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it -> is not the best ether. I found that out also. The best I can do is about 70% of the filebone. I can't figure out why WCFF only uses 250k and the config file is only 56k and it locks up unless I edit the config back down to about 36k....this is in a 622k box also. Course I'm not a programmer either. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 1313 To: TROLL Date: 12/15/93 4:25p Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Something's wrong here.. Troll babbled profusely in a message to All: -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... T> Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if T> the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like T> playing handball without a wall! T> -RFT- T> --- FreeMail 1.09 T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * T> 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1314 To: ALAN BENNETT Date: 12/15/93 3:55p Subj: RE: SKYMAIL V1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Alan Bennett wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: AB> On 14 Dec 93 05:15am, GREG SHAFFER wrote to ALL: > Hello All! > Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile > implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite > without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP > It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you > want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 > anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. AB> Where can I get a copy of Skymail? Sounds just like what I AB> need.. Well.....you might try reading what you quoted.....:) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN BENNETT Number: 1315 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/15/93 7:19a Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12 Dec 93 09:28pm, JACOBO ODUBER wrote to RUDOLF ROTHEMUND: > To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND > Subject: TIC's RR>> RR>> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's RR>>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! RR>> RR>> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is RR>>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as RR>>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? RR>> RR>> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR>>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR>>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR>>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR>> RR>> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 > Rudolf, > I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to > Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still > looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. > I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get > it to add files to my message base automatically. > What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is available > for Freq, let me know. > Thanks > Jacobo Hello Jacobo WCFF will probaly fit the bill for you nicely.. Mike Ortiz is working on one himself that will probaly be out soon.. it carries a $25 registration fee. Alan Bennett (TES SOFTWARE) ... --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E-- * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12313 --- WM v3.10/93-1048 * Origin: Terminal Entry BBS * (910)895-0368 * 1:3634/32 (1:3634/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1316 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/16/93 10:03p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/15/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one JL> -> needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the JL> -> filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 JL> -> and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it JL> -> is not the best ether. JL> I found that out also. The best I can do is about 70% of the JL> filebone. I can't figure out why WCFF only uses 250k and the config JL> file is only 56k and it locks up unless I edit the config back down JL> to about 36k....this is in a 622k box also. Course I'm not a JL> programmer either. Well I an not a programer ether, but with what is coming in daily it is working unattended as of now. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 1317 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 8:50p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 07 Dec 93, 00:57, Boyd Goodin wrote to Jim Watson: BG> That I have no problem with as long as they go to John. If they BG> end up in my netmail area I will delete them. I realize you're up against a stiff learning curve, but, had anyone in your organization ever been involved in moving echomail before? This isn't meant to be a smartass question, it's just that some of the answers I'm seeing don't indicate even a basic knowledge of routing and how it works. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 1318 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 7:04p Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1319 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/09/93 11:35a Subj: Is this getting out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We are finally connected to Planet Connect. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1320 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 1:28p Subj: Re: routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Kyle please freq PCINFO.TXT from our saystem and it will tell you -> the cost and services availible to you over the satellite. I know you have a 7.5 C-band and a 3 foot Ku band. Do you have a 4 foot Ku band too? Merry Christmas! --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1321 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/17/93 11:28p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Sean Peoples writes: SP>In addition to several changes to the EMSI logic, log any EMSI keyword we SP>don't understand. This will be instrumental in figuring out why we still SP>occasionally have EMSI parsing problems with some D'Bridge systems. Oh, that. It only applies to certain unrecognized EMIS sequences that result in a lose of EMSI header info. The connects still occur and run fine. Many of us have been feeding Vince info on this trying to find the right set of parameters. I'm beginning to think the problem with connecting to Boyd may be ISDN related. The CONNECT 38400 back to Bink seems to adjust some of the timers. Boyd's system is responding slowly for some reason (probably LAN related) and Bink doesn't wait long enough to negotiate the session. Hopefully Vince is working on that as well. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1322 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 11:35p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Now Dave remember. I am not from here. The closest we can get BG>to that lemonaid is Newfoundland screech and that use to burn my BG>stomach. Stomach?!?! You still got a stomach? Soft stuff, eh. Tenn Lemonaid is the best ulcer cure around.... after the first fifth you don't have a stomach left. :-) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1323 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 11:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Well thats because we wanted everyone to get aqqainted with BG>thier equipment. If we told you how to put it together then it BG>take all the fun out of learning what it does.;-) Certainly did a number on me. :-) I'z not be educated, but I'z experienced! BTW, after several days... and nights of playing; I still think the dish needs a little fine tuning. I get occassional errors just running virgin Dos on a buffered comm port. I thought it may just cloud layer related, but when it cleared up today, the signal meter didn't change any. I may need to adjust the polarizer some. Running under Desqview doesn't seem to phase it one bit. I can have several windows open running various programs... except Windoze, that's instant death.... and it keep chugging along with no more errors than before. There is a limit though, it wouldn't run peacefully on the ISDN machine. :-) However any sizable network transfer wipes it out in a heatbeat. The blocks quit counting and I have to recycle the program to restart it. Doesn't look like it recognizes or recovers from Uart overruns. Loading X00 with large receive buffers helped quite a bit. Had to recapture the Int-14 each recycle. However, it would still get loads of errors but only occassionally lockup even with X00 loaded. I think this may be related to the NIC I'm using. The 3Com card uses block IO and it may be shutting off the interupts too long while doing XMS transfers. As soon as I have time, I'll rotate cards around with one that uses port IO and see what happens. In any case these are easily worked around problems, and usually within two downlink cycles the file list is complete. I'll have more time to play this weekend. More later. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1324 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/18/93 12:24a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: > It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink > and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will > advise. BG> BG> Funny how I could connect with you at anytime. BG> From the symptoms, I'd venture a guess that you're running the D'bridge nodes on network workstations, likely diskless accessing a relatively busy server. Nodelists, etc are shared over the network. (How close am I?) It seems that D'bridge answers the line, receives the EMSI packet from the caller and then has to access the server for nodelist and security files. Those extra few seconds (10-15) seem to be too long for Bink, it gives up and times out. Why I don't know. When you call me, the information to establish a session is already accessed by the calling node and thus there are no delays. Either that or bink handles the inbound different than the outbound. I've got a list of things to check on.... someday.... D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1325 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 5:56p Subj: ILinks says hey... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just got off the ILink (HUB) BBS and he says they are waiting on Planet Systems for their net to get going.. he said to ask "whats up" and see how things are going.. there are some of us really awaitin on ILink (RIMEnet too!) --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1326 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/17/93 3:13a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE! Wednesday December 15 1993, JOE LYDA writes to ERVIN JAY: EJ>> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? JL> For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If JL> anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where JL> I can freq it. Ahh, I see the problem..... I would doubt there is an Areafix for GoMail.... It is unfortunate that it is not an Areafix cfriendly mail processor as NewAreasCreate is nice option to have... Cheers, Ervin ... Do married women make the best wives? --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1327 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/17/93 3:13a Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday December 14 1993, Todd Lyons writes to JOE LYDA: TL> Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 TL> Filename: RAID0108.LZH TL> File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p File: RAID0123.ZIP 132,675 4-10-92 Desc: Raid v1.23 - AreaFix-like Program for Tick. (w/ Raid 1.08 Docs) Cheers, Ervin ... If you cannot convince them, confuse them. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PCWorkShop * 2400 153/798 * 16.8DS 153/797 * 14.4HST (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1328 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/17/93 8:42a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Hello All! GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP Looks good! Unfortunately I would have to run PCUTIL with it as PCUTIL has a very nice echo processing option: NEXTx which allows me to place my mail bundles in an intermediate directory and move them a few at a time for unpacking. This allows me never have to worry about running out of work space. My system has to toss to .msg format before messages are imported to a database. The .msg messages are then deleted. If I unpack more than 4 or 5 of the mail bundles at a time, I have to plan for more drive space. It would be nice for the missed files to also be written to a second log so that it could be processed as file request automatically. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1329 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/17/93 1:41p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> glad you told me this. Well Maximus isn't the prettiest BBS RH> around, but it seems to fit our needs. I also run Maximus because it fits my need but if you want to look into another (prettier) bbs you may checkout Proboard. Proboard can use the Squish message base and with a little tweaking it can even use the Bluewave offline reader door for Maximus. I ran Proboard with Maximus and gave my callers the option until I connected with PC and ran out of disk space. I could no longer afford to give the callers two bbs's and include a large number of conferences. I suppose the reason I decided to keep Maximus rather than Proboard is because I had some kind of bug that cause EVERY user to have to hit the back space twice EVERY time they logged on in order to remove an "0n" that was automatically written in their name. It seemed that NO other Proboard sysop had ever had this problem and no one knew what could be done to eliminate it. I got tired of going through the users data base and removing the "0nJoe Blow" names. It is truly a shame that an author would work so hard and successfully develop such an excellent bbs and have it dumped because of a little problem like this. Proboard had the _FASTEST_ file search indexing feature I have ever seen. Running 8 cd rom drives was no problem. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1330 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/17/93 4:46p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RM> Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. that's unbelievable, i believe that that would be faster than my system to write to the hard drive. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1331 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/17/93 4:47p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Antonio Riveros: RH> Antonio Riveros wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: AR> I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, AR> and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the AR> BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard AR> wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to AR> something like maximus. RH> But will it let you set up over 7,000 areas? This is what it RH> will come down to when Boyd feeds us the Newsgroups. And is GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but still close. I still hold fast to the 5400 newsgroups, although some are regionals, but we might as well get a full feed. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1332 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/17/93 1:23a Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept > away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a > Faraday cage around it. FWIW, I have my receiver above two computers and below a monitor. I just don't get any errors. I have the C band receiver. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1333 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/17/93 1:29a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well i wouldn't ever import the whole backbone into any message base, I > don't have that kind of space, you would need what 40 megs just each day > for the mail after it's uncompressed? Well I always try to keep 60 megs free on my processing drive. It's quite a load on the system. I may not necessarily try to import everything but everything is eligible to be a passthough, and regardless of that, ALL will be unpacked. I still love Fmail, I'm just getting a little impatient because I *DO* want ALL of the backbone available to be read without any screwedup kludges and that won't happen until JAM comes out See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1334 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/17/93 1:33a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to Searchlight and now > to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Patty has good taste. Had I not found RA, I would have been running Max. Max is quite simply, one of the most configurable and flexible bbs's I have ever seen (second only to RA ;) My only complaint about RA is that it didn't support *.MSG in addition to HMB. They did come out with JAM, but the echomail authors are slow to write a mail processor that supports it because of various programming headaches. I'd still consider RA a viable alternative because: 1) Fastecho supports JAM which means you can carry all 666 Backboned echos. 2) You can run Waffle as a door to RA and have access to ALL of the Internet echos that will be coming over. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1335 To: ALAN BENNETT Date: 12/17/93 6:41a Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> Rudolf, ->> I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to ->> Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still ->> looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. ->> I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get ->> it to add files to my message base automatically. ->Hello Jacobo -> WCFF will probaly fit the bill for you nicely.. Mike Ortiz is working on one -> himself that will probaly be out soon.. it carries a $25 registration fee. You can use either TICK/ALLFIX and still process files into WildCat! using WCFILE. I am finishing up a program (WCTICK) that writes the batch file to run WCFILE automatically. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1336 To: CHRIS OSBORNE Date: 12/17/93 8:52p Subj: Re: AREAFIX AND PLANET C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included -> Chuck, When you get it cleaned up would ya post where you hatched it -> or put it up available for FREQ? It would be most appreciated by al -> I'm sure. Sure will....it basically compares your current AREAS.BBS file to the text file (FIDONET.??) and adds any that aren't already in there, makes them 'P' passthru, and adds address 1:3615/50. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1337 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/17/93 9:26a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me > clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. How about comparing the old areas.bbs to a new one and then adding the new or deleting any areas no longer in fidonet.na? and at the same time doing it's thing with fidonet.no?? One of my problems is the new areas and the filebone messsage areas, still. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1338 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/17/93 9:28a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > processor that handles the JAM message base. I use Fmail which is not > JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted doing 50 messages per second. > With as much mail, as many downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet > network, I average about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes > forever, especially if another machine is hitting the server :( Yes I was watching last night as well. I know I am dropping pkzip 2.04 and moving back to 1.10 as it appears the zipping is taking fo ever. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZACH LOWRY Number: 1339 To: DSPD58B@PRODIGY.COM Date: 12/16/93 9:45a Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just Testing To See If I Can Write You A Message. My Mom Says Hi. She also hopes your back start feeling better. C-YA :) :) --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1340 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 7:55a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? If so can you netmail me with your phone number, I wish to contact somebody that can provide me with some before you buy advice. Russell --- GoldED 2.40+ * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS CHRISTOPH Number: 1341 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 11:45p Subj: USENET News Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello! I heard that there is going to be a full Usenet news feed on here in January. Is this correct? If so, what will be involved in getting that feed through the Planet Connect system? ...Thomas --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff242/x] * Origin: DIGITAL EXPERIENCE * 403-459-6094 * (1:342/86) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1342 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/17/93 7:10p Subj: NOTICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > RTP.EXE - Tic Processor of the 90's! Simple to use, and Is this FREQ'able? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1343 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 12/17/93 7:18p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the .BAG >TM> newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of interest? >TM> I don't want to process several hundred newgroup areas a day when >TM> I am only interested in a couple dozen of them. Thanks... > > Fredgate (fred-uf) will process the .bag's and only save those areas > that are > defined in the active.map file. The rest are dumpped. Works rather > well. FREQ fqconfig.zip from my system for sample batch files and > configs. I'll FREQ it from you and have a look. Thanks for the offer. In the meantime I've written a utility that will process a .bag file and create a new .bag file containing only those newsgroups I want. Very simple and *SLOW*. I'll want to tweak it for a bit just out of principle at this point. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN BEGGS Number: 1344 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 9:31a Subj: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some messages from a fairly limited geographical area. Oh, by the way: Hi. I'm new. Heh Ta! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (89:720/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1345 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 12/17/93 5:33p Subj: Msgtoss Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm gonna have one of them there satellite receivers before christmas, > and was wondering if your still running rbbs and using msgtoss for the > mail. Hi Jeff, I think you'll be happy with the services from Planet Connect. Which dish are you gonna be running? Haven't run RBBS for about a year and a half now and I never ran MsgToss. Remember, I was the RBBSMAIL beta & distribution point? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1346 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/17/93 5:34p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It'll probably shiver a bit. Might want to put a stocking cap on it. > You could even paint a couple of eyes, a nose and a mouth on it and > makeit look like a big face looking skyward.... Good idea, Martin, maybe paint a big mouth on it around where the feed horn points. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1347 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/17/93 5:36p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Anyone see this yet? Nope, didn't see it here in Shreveport, LA, Glenn. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1348 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/17/93 5:39p Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > the dish site Satruday and never looked at it. I was to busy installing > Allfix to send me all the file goodness that G3 can produce. At a 43+ > degree latitude I doubt if the snow will effect it much anyway Sounds great to me, Larry. Thanks for the information. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1349 To: TROLL Date: 12/17/93 5:40p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Grin- well, we DID get home... OK is open to discussion! Nothing > two or three weeks in hospital and a massive infusion of money > wouldn't cure, I guess! Look for netmail from me, Tolli, I gotta hear about this trip home you had. Sounds like a trip from hell. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1350 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 11:50a Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1351 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/16/93 12:07a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> RR>Hello. I like Wildcat, too! RR> RR> I use WCFILE to import my files from the Filebone area intp my RR>Wildcat message bases. What I did was to wrote a batch file that tests RR>for the presence of the FILES.BBS created TIC when it processses a TIC RR>file, and when it finds the file the batch file runs WCFILE. RR> RR> Hope this helps. If not, call my BBS and leave me a message and I'll RR>go into more detail. Rudolf I'll definitely be trying your batch file after doing some modifications to it. I didn't realize that you can put command line options for WCFILE. If all else fails I'll request some more info through netmail. BTW, what filelisting program do you recommend for WC? so that I can have my users download a complete filelisting of what's available. Thanks for the info Jacobo þ HOT@AUA þ ...Tag line continued from previous message --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1352 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/16/93 12:22a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW>->Keith, CW>-> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all t CW>->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and CW>->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. CW> CW> I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me CW> clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. CW> CW> Chuck CW> CW> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. how soon do you expect to hatch it? I'd rather do it in 20 seconds than a few hours. ttyl Jacobo þ JFO þ MS-DOS is CP/M on steroids. --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1353 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 9:04a Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename them to .ARJ ren *.sdn *.arj --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 1354 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/18/93 11:33a Subj: Pcboard files on the file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No @SUBJECT:PCBoard Files on the Filekbone N Boyd, My name is Mike Perkins. I'm half owner of the MindLess One's BBS along with Frank Salerno who has us singed up with you. I'm wondering what it would take to have PCBoard files from Mike Paschen added back on the filebone? I have seen some post on this and would just like to add our two cents in favor of it. Thanks Mike --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1355 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/18/93 9:20a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. Still, that is excellant. RM> Maximus can be as pretty as you customize it to be; it's all RM> in the mecca scripts. I see that now, also nice with being able to add in the RIP. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1356 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/18/93 9:22a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? Well Greg, tell us then, just how many are there on a FULL feed? I have seen differnt figures everywhere, but most of my info comes from Boardwatch magazine. Now I know you will ask, "Oh, yeah, which issue was that in?" but don't bother because I can't remember. Regards, rhilg@freenet.scri.fsu.edu --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1357 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/18/93 10:04p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No following up a message from Guy VanDell to Roger Morris: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. GV> HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. that's unbelievable, i GV> believe that that would be faster than my system to write to GV> the hard drive. I just finished processing all the mail and feeding downlinks. There where 29000+ messages and squish reported doing 3 per second. It took over 2 hours! How the heck did you get so much? What am I doing wrong? Are most of your areas passthrough? Are you feeding downlinks? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1358 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/18/93 10:08p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GV> well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but GV> still close. Thank you Guy for explaining that to Greg. And if you add the qwk networks, you can easily see how I can arrive at 7,000. Don't forget that RIME is also a possibility. FWIW, I read that there are 7,400+ newsgroups and I WILL find the Boardwatch magazine that stated that figure. Of course it could have been a typo, or maybe even a misread on my part, but never the less, we will see more than 7,000 areas if we utilize ALL the mail that is coming in. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1359 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/18/93 10:15p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Laz Gottli wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: LG> Yes I was watching last night as well. I know I am dropping LG> pkzip 2.04 and moving back to 1.10 as it appears the zipping LG> is taking fo ever. Is ver1.10 really faster than 2.04? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1360 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 10:18p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. Use ARJ. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1361 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/16/93 11:59p Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Patty. Could you please respond to this message, I sent a message to Boyd in the hopes of getting a response as a test message, but as of yet, I have received nothing back from him. Thanks in advance. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1362 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 8:14p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen my users get replies and I am now beginning to feel left out :-[ Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1363 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 8:52p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 17 Dec 93, John Jamieson writes to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. JJ> PK361 dosen't want to do it. ARJ it the new Archiver of choice for the SDN files. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1364 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 8:35p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/16/93> John Jamieson wrote: JJ> JL> JJ> TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM JJ> JL> messag JJ> Sorry about that, a screwup here, I sent you a copy and fixed things JJ> incase anone else goes for it. Thanks for alerting me to the problem. JJ> John Ya I have had that same thing happen here. Thanks very much. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1365 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/18/93 8:37p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/17/93> Ervin Jay wrote: EJ> Hello JOE! EJ> Wednesday December 15 1993, JOE LYDA writes to ERVIN JAY: EJ> EJ>> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? EJ> JL> For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If EJ> JL> anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where EJ> JL> I can freq it. EJ> Ahh, I see the problem..... I would doubt there is an Areafix for GoMail EJ> It is unfortunate that it is not an Areafix cfriendly mail processor as EJ> NewAreasCreate is nice option to have... EJ> Cheers, Ervin Yes it is a very good option and other than that it works flawlessly in turning off/on for the downlinks here. Oh well someday. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1366 To: PCBOARD OPS! Date: 12/16/93 9:42p Subj: A2C.EXE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for PCBoard Operators! I have a major amount of people trying to freq A2C.EXE from here. The following people have it online and Running: MySelf Geoff Lewis Bob Oyler I just called and uploaded to: 1:3619/1 - FL - Nice looking PCBoard Dude! (What all PPE's are u using?) 1:266/22 - NJ - Liked your Verification PGM (What is it?) Tried to upload it to (but is busy non-stop), will try later: 1:249/304 - OH -=- I am flipping the bill on this, since I am currently NOT allowing Freqs from my system. But I am sure you will enjoy enough the time A2C saves you so much, that you will register - hint hint :) OZZ HEY! Stop reading me!!! --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: PCBoard - No Freq's - >uSr_dS< 14.4k - (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1367 To: Date: 12/17/93 1:32a Subj: RELEASE(S). Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for ! Vtree2 is part of the development towards the OTW DOS Commander (for Dummies). And the 3 Business Related Toys are just things Mike Hill and I have been talking about me releasing a "cheaper" version (I charge $7000.00 for the big version). Coming Soon - ChkUp.Exe (For All BBSes!) - A killer Upload Processor - NightDiver will be doing most of the "Art" work. It should be killer fast! Internal Support for (Arc, Lzh, Zip, Zoo, Arj). Supports Fossil/Direct, and is programmable (for what the users will see - you can draw your own "Art"). Again it will also Haul Ass Like RTP has been noted for... ! OZZ All generalizations are false. --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: What's Love got to do with it? >uSr_dS< (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1368 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/18/93 7:23p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? GV> well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but GV> still close. GV> I still hold fast to the 5400 newsgroups, although some are GV> regionals, but we might as well get a full feed. If you say so..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1369 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/18/93 7:24p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Brown wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Hello All! GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP TB> Looks good! Unfortunately I would have to run PCUTIL with TB> it as PCUTIL has a very nice echo processing option: NEXTx TB> which allows me to place my mail bundles in an intermediate TB> directory and move them a few at a time for unpacking. This You define the directory for Skymail to move the mail bundles to.....you can do whatever you like with them at that point..... TB> It would be nice for the missed files to also be written to TB> a second log so that it could be processed as file request TB> automatically. Just parse out the lines from the skymail.log using something like QSORT..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1370 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 7:38p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. .ARJ greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1371 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/19/93 1:25a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell scripted in a message to Roger Morris: GV> HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. Lots of RAM, dedicated as ramdisk and cache. And a fast drive / controller setup helps too. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1372 To: TIM HELTON Date: 12/18/93 4:44p Subj: Moving South Refer: NONE Read: 12/20/93 8:17p Private: No TH> I'm moving from Atlanta to Miami. Can I use my 7 ft C-band system TH> that far south? The video says that I'll need a 10 ft dish.... Tim, no need to, I am in Miami and am hooked up to Planet Connect. Using a 7.5 ft Ku dish, by the way (just happened to have one handy). Keep my node number (135/94) for reference, and send me netmail when you get here! * MKRead v1.04 * A wise shepherd never trusts his flock to a smiling wolf. --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1373 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 12/19/93 6:42p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LT> Works rather well. FREQ fqconfig.zip from my system for LT> sample batch files and configs. ...cut... Node 1:213/0 BinkleyTerm Version 2.58 19-Dec-93 16:28 Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway was unable to complete a file request made by your system, 1:391/1180, at this time. The request which failed was: FQCONFIG.ZIP The reason that the request was not satisfied at this time is that the requested file was not found. ...cut... Could you hatch this out over the PCUTILS file echo, I'm sure it would be of interest to more people then just me.... Thanks for your time. John..... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1374 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/19/93 6:00p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: RH> Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? RH> Well Greg, tell us then, just how many are there on RH> a FULL feed? I have seen differnt figures RH> everywhere, but most of my info comes from RH> Boardwatch magazine. Now I know you will ask, "Oh, RH> yeah, which issue was that in?" but don't bother because I RH> can't remember. There are a little under 2500...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1375 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/19/93 4:53p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ... Do married women make the best wives? > Why not? They get the most practice at it... ;-) --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1376 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/19/93 4:55p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept >> away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a >> Faraday cage around it. > > FWIW, I have my receiver above two computers and below a monitor. I > just don't get any errors. I have the C band receiver. Geez, my receiver sits right on top of my desktop 386 - no data problems at all... --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1377 To: THOMAS CHRISTOPH Date: 12/19/93 5:01p Subj: USENET NEWS FEEDS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I heard that there is going to be a full Usenet news feed on here in > January. Is this correct? If so, what will be involved in getting > that feed through the Planet Connect system? So far, Boyd is testing with alt.bbs (and perhaps others). We are all currently receiving PCUSENET.nnn files through the dish. These files contain *.BAG files, which can be imported/tossed into your bbs message base using whatever uuccp software you have handy. That takes care of the incoming mail. You will still need to make arrangements with either Boyd or a local internet site for your outbound mail.(and internet netmail). We haven't worked out all the logistics yet,,, we're looking for ideas, though... Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1378 To: SEAN BEGGS Date: 12/19/93 5:03p Subj: PLANET WIDE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some > messages from a fairly limited geographical area. > > Oh, by the way: Hi. I'm new. Heh Welcome to the club. Say HI to teh SDN gang up there for me, and welcome to this club... North America only. That's the footprint of the bird. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1379 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/19/93 5:05p Subj: SDN FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename them to .ARJ > > ren *.sdn *.arj Although this is something fairly easy to do, SDN files must carry the .SDN extension for at least 30 days before being renamed. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1380 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/19/93 6:27p Subj: A2C.EXE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Tried to upload it to (but is busy non-stop), will try later: -> -> 1:249/304 - OH Sorry OZZ, that's ON, Ontario. You did finally get through. Thanks. Now I just have to find the time to look at it. I can't even remember what it does now.... Skaal, White Viking -}-----* *8) --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1381 To: ALL Date: 12/19/93 6:38p Subj: PCBoard Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Another message to ALL PCBoard Sysops: If you are looking for a fine tosser, check out QSCAN by Rob Kitteredge. It's part of his QFRONT package. I'm already running Intermail 2.25 so I didn't need QFRONT, but have been sorely hit for a good tosser. I registered FIDOPCB, but it has problems for a multi-net hub. Specifically, AKA's in the seen-by's. Anyway, QSCAN is completely uncrippled (QFRONT is the crippled part of the package) and is faster than a forest fire. Setup is slightly clunky, but I wrote a simple qbasic program (20 lines) to import my SQUISH.CFG file on a on-shot basis. This thing is good too. It sucks in the entire backbone from the satellite (7MB), tosses the whole thing locally, plus packs up about 4.5Mb for my local nodes in about 1.5 - 2.0 hours on a 386-33. Because it doesn't use file-attaches, I mangled the archiver entries and forced it to leave the packets as .PKT's. I then rename them to .OUT and make Squish pack them up for transmission. If anyone want's more details on this thing or the way I set it up, netmail me at 1:249/304. Skaal, White Viking -}-----* *8) --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1382 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 7:06p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ>What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. >PK361 dosen't want to do it. JJ> John SDN switched from pak to arj. Michael Reeves þ QMPro 1.51 þ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL LARSON Number: 1383 To: SEAN BEGGS Date: 12/19/93 3:57a Subj: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SB>Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some messages from SB>fairly limited geographical area. SB>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb SB> * Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (89:720/203) all i know is that there is no zone 89 and that you should put your fidonet address in fidonet areas i think it is mandatory * OLX 2.1 TD * Juan Valdes dies: family says they will freeze dry! --- T.A.G. 2.6f2i Beta * Origin: EXCALIBER BBS 1-615-647-2572 14400BPS CLARKSVILLE,TN (1:3621/12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 1384 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 1:50p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. Use the most recent ARJ.EXE at your disposal. If it doesn't work grab the newest from a friendly BBS. I find that ARJ 2.41 works. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1385 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/17/93 9:11p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ON> e. Who all is running PCBoard with the DISH? I have been writing things ON> left and right for PCB, and want to know if there are any other utils I forgot ON> to put in my package... Well OZZ, I will be doing my site survey tommorow. Then I will know if the dish is suitable for my location. If so, I only need another $100 to order it. I am hoping to order in about 2-3 weeks. I run PCBoard here. I am a bit concerned about the newsgroups on the dish though. Limited newsgroups sound fine, but I don't know about putting a full feed on it unless it can somehow be compressed. I think that PageSat's system is running 45mb a day and just barely keeps up. I am not running it so don't know for sure, but if so, I would hate to give up the .QWK and FidoNet for newsgroups. I already get newsgroups here but would prefer dish feed if the bandwidth will allow it, not if it will take away from the current .QWK/FidoNet stuff coming through it. TRENDS! is coming to Sumner in February.....Be on the lookout!!! --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1386 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 7:40a Subj: AKA's in Seenby's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Everything is working fine here... Thanks for your Help.. BTW, I discovered a Solution to the Missing Mail that I was Sending to 3615/50, that did not show up on the backbone... I was un-aware that my Mail Processor was including ALL of my AKA's by Default to the SeenBy's even though I was ONLY using my Primary Node to Return mail to 3615/50. I checked the Doc's to my Mail Processor and discover how to keep the my AKA Addresses from being included in the Seenby's that I was sending back to 3615/50. Now all my outbound Backbone mail is showing up on the Backbone.. Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1387 To: TEST Date: 12/19/93 2:16a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon BBS * 1:3605/666 * (904) 926-7185 (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1388 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/18/93 5:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: DO> Oh, that. It only applies to certain unrecognized EMIS DO> sequences that result in a lose of EMSI header info. The DO> connects still occur and run fine. Many of us have been DO> feeding Vince info on this trying to find the right set of DO> parameters. Ok, it's not clear from the WHATSNEW file that this is the case... DO> I'm beginning to think the problem with connecting to Boyd DO> may be ISDN related. The CONNECT 38400 back to Bink seems DO> to adjust some of the timers. Boyd's system is responding DO> slowly for some reason (probably LAN related) and Bink DO> doesn't wait long enough to negotiate the session. DO> Hopefully Vince is working on that as well. In the mean time, I believe there is a Binkley 2.50.EE.xx version out with ISDN support...Not sure if this will suit your needs or not, but it's a thought at least... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1389 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/16/93 1:22p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing 40 msgs/sec. RH> Well Maximus isn't the prettiest RH> BBS around, but it seems to fit our needs. Maximus can be as pretty as you customize it to be; it's all in the mecca scripts. RH> I just hate spending money on software RH> when it can be used for hardware. Yeah, there's no such thing as too much RAM. RH> Anyone else care to enlighten us RH> as to what problems or successes you are coming accross RH> with your current configuration? We (both Patty and myself) are having problems with AreaFix running across Novell, and no version of Binkley will run under Novell's VLM requester. Currently I'm using SEAL to replace AreaFix and Raid, but it's not working out too well. The PC software runs great under the VLMs, as it did under NetX and with all the recent versions of DOS tired here. Maximus handles the large number of file and message areas carried here, although we do need to break them down into groups for ease of reading. RH> I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to RH> Searchlight and now to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Don't know about the views part, but Patty dropped RBBS because of internal problems with the development groups, and Searchlight because of it's technical limitations. I was running Max when we met, and that helped convince her to give it a try. (She was already looking at it ... ) For now Maximus suits our needs, but that doesn't mean it will tomorrow. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1390 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:30p Subj: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in the download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic processing as Skymail never would have reported all received. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Dec-93 at 23:19:26 SkyMail v1.0 OnLine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Processing Mail 0 Mail Files Moved to C:\IN_MAIL\ 10 Mail Files Deleted Processing Files 0 Other Files Moved to C:\IN_FILES\ 49 Other Files Deleted Updating C:\PLANETC\SKYMAIL.IDX Checking for Missing Mail & Files HOLD Not Recieved HOLD1 Not Recieved 2 out of 64 Total Files NOT Recieved. All Mail Files Recieved 19-Dec-93 at 23:20:00 SkyMail OffLine (8) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1391 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:33p Subj: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BTW, what am I missing at the very beginning of the download cycle? Once PCMAIN exits, it takes several minutes to move the files to processing directories and return to downloading. It always starts out in the middle of a file and thus never downloads it. What am I missing? It appears the TVAGENT stuff is the first stuff over, and if so I can afford to miss it. But just want to make certain. Also, this morning I saw an 0000ffff.SU? file that was listed as being 4meg+ in size and over 9000 blocks long. I thought, "DAMN! I'll never get that without errors! What the...." Yet when the download completed on the next cycle, there was not a 4 meg file there and they were all accounted for. Can this thing get scrambled on it's size estimates? Bugbustin' D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1392 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/19/93 11:39p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please see my message to Boyd about the HOLD and HOLD1 files. I tried to add them to the 'exemptfile' list as 'HOLD.' and 'HOLD1.' but Skymail ignored the entries. They were in the UPLD list as 'HOLD' and 'HOLD1'.... now that I think about it, it's a text based comparison instead of a file based comparison isn't it. Anyway, these things sure plugged up the works. I've got a ways to go but I'm learning and this Skymail ditty sure made it easier. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1393 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:49p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No One more thing..... What do the status fields indicate on the status display at the bottom of the screen? Blocks, Errors, CB and Sz are self-evident, but the PHs, PBs, CBs and T??s are a little more difficult. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1394 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 6:34a Subj: .tic files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello boyd, Need some .tic files for the following... do you still have them? Can you put them on hold for me??? 12-19-19 LST 1032 AMSAT345 LZH 4663 ANART789 LZH 5359 ARLB116 LZH 894 ARLD068 LZH 615 ARLK052 LZH 2056 DX2TEXT ZIP 7729 FB310 SDA 1194 FB310 SDN 241293 IMPR9312 SDA 2166 IMPR9312 SDN 27915 IRRS_LNG LZH 1225 IRRS_PRG LZH 2029 IRRS_SCH LZH 1193 KRIS_JR1 SDA 1447 KRIS_JR1 SDN 123394 KRIS_JR2 SDN 150222 NECYAGIS ZIP 98195 OPDX-1 LZH 893 OPDX139 LZH 2437 PA1200B ZIP 93546 PCECAP30 SDA 3514 PCECAP30 SDN 178780 PCSWIN40 SDA 2921 PCSWIN40 SDN 301560 SPC1213 LZH 2721 TERG ZIP 14108 WGAMAIL ZIP 906918 Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest In The West, Western Star ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1395 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 12/20/93 8:14p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for Tim! Friday December 17 1993, Tim Fierro writes to Ozz Nixon: ùÄÍTFÍÄù Well OZZ, I will be doing my ùÄÍTFÍÄù site survey tommorow. Then I ùÄÍTFÍÄù will know if the dish is ùÄÍTFÍÄù suitable for my location. If ùÄÍTFÍÄù so, I only need another $100 to ùÄÍTFÍÄù order it. I am hoping to order ùÄÍTFÍÄù in about 2-3 weeks. Good luck! Its great! Many new programs come in every morning... ùÄÍTFÍÄù I run PCBoard here. I am a bit ùÄÍTFÍÄù concerned about the newsgroups ùÄÍTFÍÄù on the dish though. Limited ùÄÍTFÍÄù newsgroups sound fine, but I ùÄÍTFÍÄù don't know about putting a full ùÄÍTFÍÄù feed on it unless it can somehow ùÄÍTFÍÄù be compressed. I think that ùÄÍTFÍÄù PageSat's system is running 45mb ùÄÍTFÍÄù a day and just barely keeps up. ùÄÍTFÍÄù I am not running it so don't ùÄÍTFÍÄù know for sure, but if so, I ùÄÍTFÍÄù would hate to give up the .QWK ùÄÍTFÍÄù and FidoNet for newsgroups. I ùÄÍTFÍÄù already get newsgroups here but ùÄÍTFÍÄù would prefer dish feed if the ùÄÍTFÍÄù bandwidth will allow it, not if ùÄÍTFÍÄù it will take away from the ùÄÍTFÍÄù current .QWK/FidoNet stuff ùÄÍTFÍÄù coming through it. Soon that will be resolved! I am talking with Bob Oyler over at DataBank. They will be my uplink - I am working on making sure I will be able to handle the *.BAG files. I have written for PCBoard a TIC processor that works! for one thing, and the second thing is it gives anyone running the DISH in a CRP enviroment a great way to make sure the files are not being handed out to anyone and everyone! RTP takes in the TIC file sends out with an encrypted RTP netmail with associated file(s) attached. It is extremely fast and supports all the local areas BBS software. It will import it into their BBS smoohtly! But back to the newsgroups - when I finish PCBYToss - One tosser will do QWK, PKT, and BAG - plus a few otehr formats. Which will help increase your processing speed. The size stuff will be cured soon! I am writing a DOOR for PCBoard - it uses LZH compressed msg bases for a BBS package I designed over the last 14 years! I sold the rights to my BBS package - but kept the rights to my thoeries! It will install seamless to PCBoard - and will appear as a normal part of the BBS - but adds some things PCBoard is a lil' behind on in the MSG area. Plus you won't have to use PCBNet to update the user mail flags :) And lastly - when you go live with the DISH I wrote a convert program that will take 4 standard AREAS LISTING files and generate a new CNAMES.@@@ for you - save major hours of typing! We are designing the "final" release right now, that will allow moving of conferences, deletion as the conference dies, plus it already adds the new areas automatically. (Thanks to Bob Oyler we now offer the ability to support d'bridge Areas.BBS format, and the ability to specify a starting conference # if you carry more than 1 net online). When you are ready send me netmail to 1:18/201 or 1:362/201 and I will send you a complete listing! I won't be releasing the lastest releases until January - about the time you jump in with us :) OZZ I drink, therefore I am. --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: >uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1396 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 10:12p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What software would i need to use to start tossing the usenet feeds into RemoteAccess? Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1397 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/20/93 5:58p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my -> > mintutes of free time a day. -> -> -> Geez, you mean you get 3 whole minutes of uninterrupted free time -> Boyd? We'll have to talk to your boss about that. -> -> -> --)@ Patty @(-- -> NAAA!!!! Let 'm work !!! --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1398 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/20/93 6:02p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ->Keith, -> -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included -> ->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), -> ->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. -> -> I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me -> clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. -> -> Chuck -> -> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. -> Hi Chuck, Say, do ya have one that will automaticaly update the tic control file??? Right now, most of the stuff is passthrough, but when something new comes down the pipe, it winds up in my newareas area. Then I have to set up the thing manually. Can anyone else help me automate the adding of new file areas?? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1399 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/20/93 6:10p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> jasper and should be kept away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps -> have to build a Faraday cage around it. -> I have mine grounded and sealed in a plastic bag. Then I put it in the bottom of a 5gal bucket. Covered it with 12 inches of dirt to make sure I had a GOOD earth ground and finished by filling the bucket with water!!!.. Works GREAT!!! ;) Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1400 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/20/93 6:15p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Once, a long time ago, I considered using Wildcat and the reason I de -> to is that the file search function is -> s...l...o...w! If it were faster, (9 cd-rom drives) I might have gone -> -> -> Regards, -> Robert -> Bob, What ya using ?? I'm a 1.1 Wildcater, now using 3.55, but I too am looking for something better. Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1401 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 6:17p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FS> This same system will be used when I am ready to accept -> FS> links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). -> -> Fred could you put AREAFIX and your AREAFIX.CTL file where I can -> freq it for me. -> Joe -> Sorry for the delay in my answer. Will do soon as I can. Will let ya know. If next year gets here and you haven't heard from me, YELL!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1402 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/20/93 6:34p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen my us -> get replies and I am now beginning to feel left out :-[ -> -> -> Cheers! -> Tim Lajoie, -> SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net -> Knock Knock, Someone out there??? Guess not, Oh Well. --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 1403 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/19/93 4:32p Subj: Re: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename > them to .ARJ You don't need to rename them...just furnish arj with the extension when you try to decompress them. Earlier (prior to June, 1993) SDN files used PAK. Tom --- ScanEd 1.53 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery AL (205) 279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 1404 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 10:27p Subj: Missing TIC files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Seems to be several files (mostly SDN) being passed down without the TIC file. I have even included a batch command to copy all received TIC's to a separate directory before processing with PCUTIL just to be sure that they aren't somehow being deleted. Here is a listing as of today that I cannot find a matching TIC for: FB310 SDA IMPR9312 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDA PCSWIN40 SDA PCECAP30 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDN PCSWIN40 SDN PCECAP30 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDN PCSWIN40 SDN KRIS_JR2 SDN PCECAP30 SDN IMPR9312 SDN FB310 SDN Tom --- ScanEd 1.53 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery AL (205) 279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1405 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 10:20p Subj: GEcho Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any programs or utilities that will scan the badecho folder and autoadd those areas in GEcho? Or anything that will read in a fidonet.n? file, and autoadd those new areas into GEcho.. Seems that this mail tosser lacks the auto-add badecho feature, that some others have... Oh, and are we allowed to post the weather maps for our users yet? I remember awhile ago the details were still being worked out... -AND- anyone have a list of the current usenet echos that are being broadcasted? So I can test them on my end. Will PC send usenet messages back onto the net, or must we find our own way back? Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1406 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 11:10p Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sorry for all the posts in a row here folks, but I'm still somewhat of a newbie in these parts...:) This problem involves DV.. It seems that after a while, the Pc software no longer is receiving the data from the dish. I know data is coming in, as the data light is flickering on the unit. I haven't been able to pin down the reason for the pc software not seeing the data.. The software doesn't lock up at all. All the pulldowns work fine. I just have to exit the program, and re-start it, and everything will start back up again... and it will last for a random amount of time. I'm running the data receiver unit on COM3, IRQ5, using the settings provided in the set-ini.doc file on the disk. the FIFO is turned on. Here are my settings: SKYPORT=3 SKYPORTBASE=3E8 SKYPORTVECTOR=0D SKYPORTIRQ=5 SKYPORTMASK=20 SKYPORTPIC=21 SKYFIFO=TRUE I don't think I have an interrupt conflict, as I've been able to hook up a modem to this com port, and dial out while a user is on the system. What are the recommended/suggested settings for running it under Dv? Must I configure it with X00? And what exactly is the proper command line for it? I haven't had any luck trying to configure this port, using the irq of 5. If anyone can help, please do! Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1407 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 6:22p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > nodes on network workstations, likely diskless accessing a > relatively> busy server. Nodelists, etc are shared over the > network. (How close am > > Well each node has its own HD and copy of D'bridge. All each > system share is the session password file. D'bridge makes its > own nodelist database which is faster than accessing the > nodelist. Whne Jerry connects the hand-shaking and securety > checking only takes about 1.5 seconds. I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, Boyd. I'll see if Finney in Chattanooga is having the same problem and if he is, we'll get Bell to look at your trunk group. Did Joe get that packet sent off to Bell for the ISDN line to Knoxville? --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1408 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 12/20/93 8:24p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Herrbach wrote in a message to Roger Morris: JH> Hello Roger, JH> On Dec. 16, 1993 at 13:22 , Roger Morris of 1:380/25 wrote: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with a RM> highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal is RM> 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing 40 RM> msgs/sec. JH> I thought I read that Squish has problems on fast machines, JH> was it related to dupe checking? I don't recall. You might JH> want to ask Scott Dudley. Running Squish too fast may lose JH> you some mail, as I recall. that's only under os/2.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARGE CLARK Number: 1409 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/20/93 7:54p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message posted on or about , Robert Hilgar (1:266/520) > Is ver1.10 really faster than 2.04? not if you set it for maximum speed, rather than maximum compression. --- msged 2.06 * Origin: The Homestead (1:116/3000.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1410 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/20/93 6:24a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->how soon do you expect to hatch it? I'd rather do it in 20 seconds than ->a few hours. Someone asked me about adding GEcho support, so I was waiting for some info on it. Guess I could close out what I have (QuickBBS style) and add the other later. No sense delaying what others can use now. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1411 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/20/93 6:34a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->I'll definitely be trying your batch file after doing some modifications ->to it. I didn't realize that you can put command line options for ->WCFILE. I wrote a program (WCTICK) that will write this batch file for you. FREQ: WCTICK Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1412 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/20/93 6:35a Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Patty. Could you please respond to this message, I sent a message ->to Boyd in the hopes of getting a response as a test message, but as of ->yet, I have received nothing back from him. Thanks in advance. Just in case, we have you in Middle Ga. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1413 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 12:59a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Daily transmits start at 7:30am EST. -> -> Changed to 7:45 am eastern. Thanks for the update. BTW, am I correct to assume that at the start of the NEW daily feed, the feed does NOT stop, and just switches over from what is currently coming across and starts feeding the new info? If so, what are the chances of getting the feed start fresh so that we can get an errol level and drop out, as we do with the repeats? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1414 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/21/93 1:02a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> OK Merry Christmas!! The feed appears to be working fine. Got you up And a Merry Christmas to you and EVERYONE reading this! BTW, I'm from Sault Ste. Marie, ONTARIO! -> Canada! Hmm... wonder if you are accepting return Internet bags? from -> origin line? I still need to get that set up over here. Actually, I am in the middle of figuring out how to work in my current feed to allow return services for the folks on here. I'll keep you posted! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 1415 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/20/93 8:04p Subj: DO YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to ALL: TB> Can anyone check their log and see if the following mail TB> bundles were saved and processed? TB> 0000FFFF.THA TB> 0000FFFF.THB TB> 0000FFFF.FR0 TB> 0000FFFF.FRF TB> 0000FFFF.SA0 TB> 0000FFFF.SAA TB> I saw some of these bundles come in but they were NOT TB> written to my \files directory and therefore NEVER were TB> processed. Can you check your log and see if your system I have .FR0 thru .FRF and .SA0 thru .SAF here. They were tossed normally. I'm using PCCHECK... =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1416 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 9:52p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped JL> back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in JL> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it JL> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. My net just started receiving the sat. link not too long ago and this very subject crossed my mind... It would seem these type of dupes are inherent and impossible to avoid. If you send a message up to PC, you'd inevitably get it back in the next sat. downlink since you're getting the same packets everyone else is.. Think about it. My tosser detects and kills these dupe ring messages so I don't really have a problem with them. Doesn't cost me any more or less dollar-wise... Maybe an extra minute or so processing and a few more K of HD space used temporarily. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * Net 381 NEC * USR DS (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1417 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/20/93 11:30p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite > GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP Because of my own problems, I may have missed some files, so I wanted to double check whether or not SkyMail was hatched off the bird? I tried requesting it from your system but was unceremoniously dispatched . So did it come through or is there another way to get it? .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1418 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 11:36p Subj: SupraFax Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I hope this is appropriate in here Boyd? I got a v32bis modem to support the connects with PC and am retiring my HST. The modem is a SupraFax 144LC. I'm having two problems that I could use some advice on if anyone out there is using this modem with Front Door: 1) I cannot get it to maintain an offhook condition. It responds to the ATH1| command but after 1-2 minutes restores the line onhook. This is a problem for my users and points who believe that my system must have crashed over the hours I am downlinking from the satellite. 2) I only tried once, but while I did not get a connect with 3615/50 with the Supra. I get a clean and effective connect at 2400 with my HST but the Supra spewed garbage and disconnected. I can post the modem settings if that will help, but I thought first someone might know off the top of their head. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1419 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/20/93 11:37p Subj: PC Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Someone please acknowledge that they received this message. No. grin. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1420 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 11:39p Subj: Canadian Office Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd could you post Dave's phone number here? I've lost all my paper and I need to call him. Might also be useful for any lurkers in Canada wondering who to contact for a feed. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1421 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 11:47p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is > duped back to me the next day. ... > fix it. P L E A S E You're joking, right Joe? :-) In case you are not, here is the explanation. Every msg that you generate will come back to you as a dupe. There is no other way for it to work. Your msg hits PC, it gets packaged with all the others and uplinked to the satellite. You then downlink the mail from the satellite which, hopefully, includes the msgs you generated yourself. If you don't get them back from the bird, then none of the rest of us get them either. I actually like this particular dupe problem because it makes for very easy tracking of outbound echomail volumes and identification of any problems. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1422 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 2:50a Subj: Ticks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well I don't realy know what happened to all those ticks but I have taken precaution to not letting it happen again. From this day on you will be able to get every tick you need by freq from 3615/51 a file that starts with the date of the ticks you want and ending in ZIP. Like if you missed some of todays (12-21-93) all you would have to do is freq 12-21-93.ZIP from this system and you will get it. I apologize for losing those tic files and I dont have them here. I hope this will insure a complete backup of all tics. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARYL TURNER Number: 1423 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/19/93 10:51a Subj: Re: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <17-Dec-93 11:50:00> John Jamieson (1:216/506) wrote: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. JJ> PK361 dosen't want to do it. Most SDN files are now packed with ARJ. Daryl --- * Origin: Foozling it all out in Headingley, MB (1:348/701) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1424 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/19/93 12:28p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. > Let me clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. LG> How about comparing the old areas.bbs to a new one and then LG> adding the new or deleting any areas no longer in fidonet.na? and LG> at the same time doing it's thing with fidonet.no?? LG> One of my problems is the new areas and the filebone messsage LG> areas, still. If you ever decide to go to OS/2 then you can use control.zip. It dynamically allocates message and file areas based on activity over a period of time. It adds in the description for the file and message areas based on fidonet.na or whatever net you happen to be in. It will automatically setup all areas coming in from planet connect in less then an hour bases on a system (486-33) that tested it out for me. This includes squish.cfg - tic.cfg - msgarea.ctl - filearea.ctl. It also posts a RAID type message for all message areas and file areas in a squish or .msg type format. It does this whenever adding or deleting files or messsages. These are just a small fraction of what the rexx script file does. Many parts of it can also be adapted for the amiga system. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1425 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 12/19/93 12:37p Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? Doesn't work. They said that they were more interested in making a version for unix rather then os/2. Seems like they have never heard of the gnu compilers? Since most unix stuff has been converted to os/2 it should not take long after they do the unix port to come up with an os/2 port. I would do it for them, but I guess that I will just have to figure it out on my own. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1426 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/20/93 2:59p Subj: Fidopcb? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Anyone out there running PCBoard 15.0 and FidoPCB as the scanner/tosser? -> I'm presently using InterPCB/Tosscan and would like to get rid of the old -> indexes and speed up the import. If you are using FidoPCB, are you feeding -> any other nodes with it? Any suggestions welcome. The system takes quite a -> while to unpack the entire backbone to the BBS. You've probably seen my other message by now Frank, but unless FIDO is the only FTN net you are carrying, you can't use FIDOPCB. I have it, registered, but don't use it. If you do use it, you will have to run dual configurations, one for scanning, one for tossing. The scanner config can't know anything about your 1:3615/51 AKA because it puts it out as part of your seen-by's. Check out QFRONT/QSCAN. I've never been able to find TOSSCAN so I had to use Squish/InterPCB to toss my mail. Took 7 hours on a bad (good?) day. If you use QSCAN without QFRONT, you'll have to come up with some method of generating file-attaches for you packets becasue QFRONT doesn't need them and QSCAN doesn't generate them. I still allow squish to do that part. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1427 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 3:16p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped back to me -> the next day. There is several dupes coming in -> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it -> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. -> Boyd got the netmail stuff fixed now lets find this dupe loop and fix it. -> P L E A S E Considering I've seen relatively few Dupes, I'd say your software is failing to kill your own dupes that are coming back to you (as they should be). Don't forget, you are sending them out as 1:3622/100 and getting them back as 1:3615/51. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1428 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 6:43p Subj: Re: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/20/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > What mailed TVAGENT? Is there a change that has slipped past me? BG> BG> BG> Nothing much. Just that we are sending an external copy of Tvagent to BG> everyone that has a system from us. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd Thanks Boyd. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * In a VERY weak moment, I started a BBS. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1429 To: GENO DELLAMATTIA Date: 12/20/93 6:44p Subj: Re: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Geno! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/19/93> Geno Dellamattia wrote: GD> JL> Yes it is a very good option and other than that it works GD> JL> flawlessly in turning off/on for the downlinks here. Oh well GD> JL> someday. GD> Hey Joe. Sorry I missed this the first time around.... Doesn't Gomail us GD> areas.bbs format? I am able to use the features of AREAFIX with Wildmail GD> set the format to QM. You might want to give it a try. Will try it out. Thanks. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Programming Dept.: Mistakes made while you wait. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1430 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/20/93 6:46p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/19/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> I've seen that your wrestling with areafix and Gomail. JL> How come your not using WM with the built in Areamgr? Pissed JL> at Joe and the boys? :) Not at all pisses at them, in fact the only dealings with them is with WCFF 3.51 and it works very well for me now. The main reason I never tried their tosser was a 30 day key that was in no way time for me to figure out what I needed and then no more keys to expermint with. A slow learner in fact was my hang up. Now that Gomail will impliment AreaMgr I see no reason to switch over. Also what I did here was write myself a log trimer for gomail and extract any areas that tossed to Bad_Msg to a text file that is simple to edit and tag onto my areas.bbs file. I must admit that I have been following the pros and cons of OCR's products and may someday upgrade WCFF or switch tossers but not soon. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * He said "ENQ?". "NAK!", she replied. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1431 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 12/20/93 8:17p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I run PCBoard here. I am a bit concerned about the newsgroups on the > dish though. Limited newsgroups sound fine, but I don't know about > putting a full feed on it unless it can somehow be compressed. I think > that PageSat's system is running 45mb a day and just barely keeps up. > I am not running it so don't know for sure, but if so, I would hate to > give up the .QWK and FidoNet for newsgroups. I already get newsgroups > here but would prefer dish feed if the bandwidth will allow it, not if > it will take away from the current .QWK/FidoNet stuff coming through it. Don't worry, it'll be compressed and at a 19.2K data stream, we won't really be pressed all that much for time. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1432 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/20/93 8:32p Subj: DO YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Can anyone check their log and see if the following mail bundles > were saved and processed? > 0000FFFF.THA > 0000FFFF.THB > 0000FFFF.FR0 > 0000FFFF.FRF > 0000FFFF.SA0 > 0000FFFF.SAA ---------- Sat 18 Dec 93, FMail 0.96â - TOSS 14:01:51 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.SA0 (ZIP) ---------- Sat 18 Dec 93, FMail 0.96â - TOSS 9:15:37 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.SAA (ZIP) 9:15:37 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.FRF (ZIP) ---------- Fri 17 Dec 93, FMail 0.96â - TOSS 10:08:34 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.FR0 (ZIP) ---------- Thu 16 Dec 93, FMail 0.96â - TOSS 15:26:08 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.THA (ZIP) 15:26:08 Decompressing L:\IM\FILES\0000FFFF.THB (ZIP) > my \files directory and therefore NEVER were processed. Can > you check your log and see if your system processed these mail Did ok here. One thing I noticed is that a few of these were the very first file in the rotation. Might check to see if it's only the first file that is having trouble getting written. Also, are you running on a LAN? Writing to a local hard drive or Server based drive? Disk cacheing (I run absolutely NO disk cache) Fossil driver? (I use BNU locked at 19.2, but don't initialize the port...don't know if this does any good in the real world, but it works so I don't mess with it) Running through a 16550? Dos 5.0? That's all I can think of right now. Good luck! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE LYLE Number: 1433 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/20/93 12:33p Subj: Sdn Files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ>What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. JJ>PK361 dosen't want to do it. The newer .SDN files all use ARJ. * SLMR 2.1a * Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him!! --- * Origin: -> The Edit Suite <- Milwaukee WI (1:154/321) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1434 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/21/93 12:40a Subj: DO YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! In a message to All <12/18/93> Terry Blount wrote: TB> Hello... TB> Can anyone check their log and see if the following mail bundles TB> were saved and processed? TB> 0000FFFF.THA < THIS ONE WAS THERE BUT I HAD ALREADY TRIMMED MY LOG TB> 0000FFFF.THB < SO WAS THIS ONE. BOTH WERE THERE ON 12/16/93 TB> 0000FFFF.FR0 TB> 0000FFFF.FRF TB> 0000FFFF.SA0 TB> 0000FFFF.SAA 0000FFFF.THC - 0000FFFF.THH 12/17/93 0000FFFF.FR0 - 0000FFFF.FR9 12/17/93 0000FFFF.FRA - 0000FFFF.FRB 12/17/93 0000FFFF.FRC - 0000FFFF.FRF 12/18/93 0000FFFF.SA0 - 0000FFFF.SA9 12/18/93 0000FFFF.SAA - 0000FFFF.SAC 12/18/93 0000FFFF.SAD - 0000FFFF.SAF 12/19/93 0000FFFF.SU0 - 0000FFFF.SU9 12/19/93 This was extracted from my tosser log. I trim my log and extract all these lines out for a check to see if I got what the log for pcutil shows I got. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * (( This tagline is a pale reflection of itself )) --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1435 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 12:50a Subj: PC Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! In a message to All <12/19/93> Bill Wolf wrote: BW> Someone please acknowledge that they received this message. BW> thanks,bill Well Bill it got to Tullahoma TN. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1436 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 2:41a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 20 Dec 93 00:05, Boyd Goodin wrote to Brian Hess: BG> @MSGID: 1:3615/50.0 d153c342 BG> They are turned on here and at John's so I dont know what the hold-up BG> is. Thanks for checking,... I will wait until i see something come down my phone link... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYSOP Number: 1437 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/26/93 11:29a Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>> Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: GS>BG> GS>> TM> Boyd, please STOP sending those GMD error messages. It is GS>> TM> annoying to have to wade through these every day now. GS>BG> GS>> Amen...... GS>BG> GS>BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys GS>BG> tossing your mail? GS>THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... GS>greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days ago... and several days before that! -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYSOP Number: 1438 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 8:45p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [B> Hello Boyd! TB> We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other TB> folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for TB> you put those message on hold so that when they poll you with TB> reply mail they would pick up these messages? I seems that TB> method would be a more professional method of dealing with TB> individual problems. TB> Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.19:7) We are all getting them! From GMD, every day, same messages repeated. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1439 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/16/93 8:40a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP GS>It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you want GS>to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 anytime GS>outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. GS>Features: GS> @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs Sounds like a winner... but does it "MOVE" files rather than copy them if you are redirecting them to a different directory on the same drive. That has been one of my biggest challenges with PCUTIL. It copies every file first and adds them to check.idx, then goes back and deletes them requiring double the space on the drive just to _move_ them to a different directory! I _move_ my incoming fido files to a hold directory and then use next5 to _move_ mail files to another directory... using a move command would make this almost instantaneous, but instead I watch as PCUTIL uses the DOS copy command on my network to copy 500-700K mail packets twice to get them in the right directory. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1440 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 1:42p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Well each node has its own HD and copy of D'bridge. All each BG>system share is the session password file. D'bridge makes its own BG>nodelist database which is faster than accessing the nodelist. BG>Whne Jerry connects the hand-shaking and securety checking only BG>takes about 1.5 seconds. Well, that'll pretty much eliminate slowdowns on that end. I actually got a couple of normal connects the other night, seems to be somewhat intermittant. Over the analog, it's shicker'n slit so it does appear to be ISDN related. I've got a call into Jerry to see what he knows about it. He'll probably want me to set up a test set with Intermail. later D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1441 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/20/93 1:50p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Sean Peoples writes: SP>In the mean time, I believe there is a Binkley 2.50.EE.xx version SP>out with ISDN support...Not sure if this will suit your needs or SP>not, but it's a thought at least... I've looked at that. The major problem with ISDN is the CONNECT 38400 or CONNECT 57600 messages. 2.50.EE didn't do a thing for it. Binkley had some code with signed integer variables that put those connects in the negative and short circuited all error timing loops. 2.58 solved that problem. I think the problem is with the ISDN itself and not the software, but the jury is still out. Thanks, Happy Holidays D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1442 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/21/93 10:56p Subj: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO>What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in DO>the download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic DO>processing as Skymail never would have reported all received. DO>----------------------------------------------------------------------- DO>19-Dec-93 at 23:19:26 SkyMail v1.0 OnLine DO>------------------------------------------------------------------------ DO>Processing Mail DO>0 Mail Files Moved to C:\IN_MAIL\ DO>10 Mail Files Deleted DO>Processing Files DO>0 Other Files Moved to C:\IN_FILES\ DO>49 Other Files Deleted DO>Updating C:\PLANETC\SKYMAIL.IDX DO>Checking for Missing Mail & Files DO> HOLD Not Recieved DO> HOLD1 Not Recieved DO>2 out of 64 Total Files NOT Recieved. DO>All Mail Files Recieved DO>19-Dec-93 at 23:20:00 SkyMail OffLine (8) Looks like 2 directory names to me! -Tim p.s. PCUTIL will log subdirectory names on every pass too... --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1443 To: SYSOP Date: 12/21/93 10:56p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SY>GS>Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: SY>GS>THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... SY>GS>greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org SY>I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days ago... and SY>several days before that! SY>-Tim Gosh... wonder how this one looped around again... this post was over a week old... haven't seen the GMD messages since then... -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 1444 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 11:21p Subj: active.map Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No anyone have a full, or near complete uucp active.map file available for request. Thanks Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1445 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/21/93 10:08a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is > duped > back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in > lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it Every message that you write will come back to you as a dupe from now on. Since your mail bundles are identical to those that I recieve off the bird, your messages have got to be in there for me to see them. It's just one of the necessary evils of this new technology. When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? I've been waiting for you guys for months? --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1446 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/22/93 3:13a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, John Lyon said: JL>-> Ok here but dontr know if it gets over the bird. JL> Tweet Tweet.... I tout I taw a putty tat! :) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1447 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/21/93 1:47a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: DO> In a msg on , Greg Shaffer writes: DO> Thanks Greg, so far this has solved a number of problems. DO> I've got the log reports being directed to my netmail so I DO> can keep up with the processing. DO> I am wondering one thing. From your batch file examples you DO> actually load the network drivers, etc after skymail decides DO> there is something to move. Why do this as opposed to DO> simply logging into the network and back out? Do the DO> presence of the drivers, lanbios, etc., create problems from DO> your experience? Thats due to a specific problem with my system.....it seems that PTCCMAIN cannot find the dongle about 90% of the time when the low level drivers for my network are loaded. I believe it is specific to the cards that I run for the network since I know someone running the same software with different cards who doesnt have that problem. GS>It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs DO> This is a big help as it solves the bad tic and orphaned DO> file problem. GS>It logs files that were NOT recieved as well as those that were DO> This is GREAT! Now, if it could optionally create file DO> request for those not received after the days cycles ends. DO> :-) If you are having problems not getting them all after 5 or 6 repeats then you need to rethink your dish setup.....I usually have them all after the 1st run and it -never- takes over 2 passes. GS>It is FREEWARE :) DO> Never complain about that. :-) Glad you like it..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1448 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/21/93 6:24a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Sure will....it basically compares your current AREAS.BBS file to -> > the text file (FIDONET.??) and adds any that aren't already in there, -> > makes them 'P' passthru, and adds address 1:3615/50. ->Yes!!! Please make it available to the rest of us.. sure would save time!! ->I wonder if Boyd would put this out on the bird as well? Well, I try and get it out in the next day or so. My son has b-ball practice tonight, so I'll see what I can do. Definitiely by Thusday as I'll have the day of. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK JOHNSTON Number: 1449 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 4:21p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What software would i need to use to start tossing the usenet > feeds into RemoteAccess? you just need to wait three months or so... They're working with Merlin software to create something similar to PCBUUCP for RA systems, and it's been announced that it will be ready by the end of March... --- * Origin: Alpha City BBS, Oshawa, ON (905)579-6302 (1:229/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1450 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 9:54p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Okay folks, for anyone using the QuickBBS style AREAS.BBS file, you can... FREQ: PCAREAS This program will take a FIDONET.NA (or any ASCII file) and check it against your AREAS.BBS, adding any that aren't currently configured. It will insert them into the AREAS.BBS as 'P'assthru, adding the 1:3615/50 uplink! Cheers, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 1451 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/21/93 10:19p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Jamieson, John Lyon said: JL>-> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. JL>-> PK361 dosen't want to do it. JL>-> JL> Those are .ARJ files re-named. Also remeber that some are also Pak aswell renamed. --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS In Leicster Mass (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1452 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/21/93 10:32p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: DO> Please see my message to Boyd about the HOLD and HOLD1 DO> files. I tried to add them to the 'exemptfile' list as DO> 'HOLD.' and 'HOLD1.' but Skymail ignored the entries. They DO> were in the UPLD list as 'HOLD' and 'HOLD1'.... now that I DO> think about it, it's a text based comparison instead of a DO> file based comparison isn't it. Anyway, these things sure DO> plugged up the works. Yup, its text based......This is the second time I have seen the HOLD names come thru....I mentioned it to Boyd and he said he had a couple of directories by those names.....Probably a glitch.... DO> I've got a ways to go but I'm learning and this Skymail DO> ditty sure made it easier. It is an improvement..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1453 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/21/93 10:35p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Brown wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP GS>It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you want GS>to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 anytime GS>outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. GS>Features: GS> @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs TB> Sounds like a winner... but does it "MOVE" files rather than TB> copy them if you are redirecting them to a different TB> directory on the same drive. That has been one of my biggest You might ask the author....Ed Ivey.....He gets this echo.....I really have not checked. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1454 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/21/93 10:38p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite > GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP GC> Because of my own problems, I may have missed some files, so GC> I wanted to double check whether or not SkyMail was hatched GC> off the bird? I tried requesting it from your system but was GC> unceremoniously dispatched . GC> So did it come through or is there another way to get it? Yes it was sent over the bird.....As for your FREQ, I did notice someone sent a couple of requests that werent honored.....they came thru as netmail instead of proper requests. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE MEADORS Number: 1455 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 9:04a Subj: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote to Sean Beggs: >> Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some >> messages from a fairly limited geographical area. >> Oh, by the way: Hi. I'm new. Heh BG> Welcome and it is only norht america wide, so far! Do you know if there is a similar service provided to users in Europe or elsewhere? Warmest Regards, Joe FidoNet: 1:160/230 BizyNet: 70:1/80 Internet: Joe.Meadors@f230.n160.z1.fidonet.org --- GoldED 2.42.G1125+ * Origin: ?ksa uoy od yhW .enif s'gnihtyrevE (1:160/230) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1456 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/22/93 12:22a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is > > duped back to me the next day. > > fix it. P L E A S E > > You're joking, right Joe? :-) No he's not. Besides the inevitable dupe, someone is sending everything right back out with a new message id and everything. I checked and double checked my system so I'm reasonably sure it's not me, but you never know I hope we figure it out before too long. I don't like reading every message twice. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1457 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 11:58p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What software would i need to use to start tossing the usenet feeds into > RemoteAccess? I run waffle as a door to RA and let the users read directly from waffle. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1458 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/22/93 12:01a Subj: SupraFax Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 2) I only tried once, but while I did not get a connect with 3615/50 > with the Supra. I get a clean and effective connect at 2400 with my HST > but the Supra spewed garbage and disconnected. Sounds like a port locking problem. Check to see if all software is set for a locked port and if the fossil driver is too... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 1459 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/20/93 12:48a Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. ARJ 2.4x since last summer if I recall...Get a program such as GUS or SHEZ and it will figure out the archive and do the dirty work for you all by itself. --- * Origin: From a wanna be laptop... (1:380/14.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 1460 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 12/20/93 12:49a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RN> Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? Last I heard the dongle lock breaks it with OS/2 2.1...Wonder about this new guy's software that he just released? --- * Origin: From a wanna be laptop... (1:380/14.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1461 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/22/93 4:14a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello John! -> -> In a message to Joe Lyda <12/19/93> John Lyon wrote: -> -> JL> I've seen that your wrestling with areafix and Gomail. -> JL> How come your not using WM with the built in Areamgr? Pissed -> JL> at Joe and the boys? :) -> -> Not at all pisses at them, in fact the only dealings with them is -> with WCFF 3.51 and it works very well for me now. It's always worked for me too. But now that I'm tossing the entire Filebone, it has a lot to be desired. It's a memory hog! I have 620k available mem on the workstation that does the tics. When I added the entire filebone the .CFG file grew to about 57k. Well that locked it up tighter than a mouses ear. I had to edit the .CFG down to 36k before it would run again. I guess a new version is to be released soon though. -> I must admit that -> I have been following the pros and cons of OCR's products and may -> someday upgrade WCFF or switch tossers but not soon. I've had my rounds with them. But WM 3.1 is a pretty good product, something us WC'ers should have had a long time ago. The New WCFF should as good and a GREAT improvement over 3.51. I'm in the process now of trying their UUCP. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 1462 To: TIM HELTON Date: 12/21/93 8:49p Subj: Moving South Refer: NONE Read: 12/22/93 7:02p Private: No t guess it's good on overseas > TB> calls ... > I noticed the first call at 4800. The second came in at 14.4! After > I get mine we'll be at either 16.8 or 19.2 whatever I get, or later > end up with. Hopefully. ,-) > I get the Zyxel echo here & have other local nodes that have them, so > I should be able to tweak it quick. But, I'm very interested in the > fax/voice features. I can understand this - especially the fax feature is nice. ,-) Ciao, Tobias tobi@hds.rmi.de --- FastEcho B1130 * Origin: Fast Eddie's BBS - Node @ Monroe, MI [313-243-0944] (1:2380/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1463 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 6:29p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello All! > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped > back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in > lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it > possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. > Boyd got the netmail stuff fixed now lets find this dupe loop and > fix it. P L E A S E That is probably your meesage coming back at you. Your tosser needs some tweeking. I had to really increase my dupe checks to take care of this sort of thing. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1464 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 12/21/93 3:30p Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BH> Hello Boyd! BH> Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware BH> Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools BH> ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* BH> ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 BH> ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) BH> could you PLEASE check your up link and make sure the BH> above is turn on...I have not received any files in the BH> above areas off the dish. I know some have been BH> released recently.... Let me know if need any more I received several on the 20th, but not from the bird. Actually, that's a strange story. In Z1, Patrick Martin delivers the stuff here, I send it to John, and he sends it to Boyd. Because I'm an uplink for this group feeding at 396/1, I can't pull 'em down from the bird. In Zone 2, Manfred Schramm sends 'em to Jens Mueller, who in turn hits John. The stuff I got came in via that path, which means that Boyd would have gotten them as well. There hasn't been much traffic in those groups, at least not in Z1. It's partially due to the V.FC modems coming out. It's also partially due to the changeover in where the Z2 links come in. Cheers --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1465 To: MIKE PERKINS Date: 12/21/93 3:42p Subj: Pcboard files on the file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP> @SUBJECT:PCBoard Files on the Filekbone MP> N Boyd, MP> My name is Mike Perkins. I'm half owner of the MP> MindLess One's BBS along with Frank Salerno who has us MP> singed up with you. I'm wondering what it would take MP> to have PCBoard files from Mike Paschen added back on MP> the filebone? I have seen some post on this and would MP> just like to add our two cents in favor of it. Jens Mueller is pushing them that way now. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1466 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 3:47p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If I send it to 3615/50, and route via John, betcha it will -:) BG> BG> Ok I admit. I was wrong. I did not know he had me set BG> up for my stuff to be inbound to me. Actually, I have no idea what's in John's route control file. But I did know he had to have either a Route Hold or a Send Hold to 3615/50. And knowing how Squish works (actually every tosser is the same in this respect), I knew that anything that hit him destined for 3615/50 would wind up going direct to you. Live and learn. We'll add a few more gray hairs yet -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1467 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 2:58p Subj: Re: 2400 baud connection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> We have all 14400 v32.bis\42.bis modems on all 3 lines. BG> The HST kind of started having a few problems. Ouch! Now I gotta visit Santa one mo time. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1468 To: SYSOP Date: 12/21/93 1:55p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Terry Blount <11-26-93 20:45> Sysop wrote: Sy> We are all getting them! From GMD, every day, same messages Sy> repeated. Sy> Sy> -Tim Sy> * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) Who are you?? By Using the Name SYSOP... it makes it hard to REPLY to the Right person.. There are Thousands of other Sysop's who might think that a Reply to "SYSOP" was intended for them? Regards, George Vandervort NEC NET382 --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1469 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 11:04a Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd!! Say, I was wondering, would it be possible for you to "segment" the data stream on the bird??? By this I mean, could you isolate the echo mail from say the TIC files and when the echo mail has been transmitted then send the signal to exit out and process??? Once that's done, then send up the tic stuff??? I ask this because it takes a lot longer to process all the mail then it does the filebone stuff. Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1470 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/21/93 7:26a Subj: 2400 baud connection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TB> I recently noticed that when I call to return mail I am no TB> longer getting a high speed connection like I did in TB> the beginning. Have you moved your HST modem to another TB> phone number. I got hit by the same thing; Boyd removed the HST and put a V.32bis in it's place and I started connecting at only 2400. I've since switched around here to call him with a USR DS and all is back to normal. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1471 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 2:33p Subj: Re: routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Heck we can get you anything you need. But it is more excpensive -> than the 3 foot thopugh. Thanks Boyd. I knew it would be. I didn't expect a Christmas Special (although that isn't a bad idea is it? ). Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the crew there at Planet Systems. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1472 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/21/93 11:45a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Roger Morris: RH> I just finished processing all the mail and feeding RH> downlinks. There where 29000+ messages and squish RH> reported doing 3 per second. It took over 2 hours! How many FILES do you have in CONFIG.SYS? Try 60 and a good cache and delayed writes if your system can handle them. (I run SmartDrive here!) Also, run your passthru areas Squish style and if you have the memory put them on a ramdisk. This end just took 27 minutes to toss/scan this morning's big drop plus another 10 minutes to archive the outbound stuff. The number of dupes you track plays a major role, too. I went from 1000 per area to 2 and dropped about 10 msgs/sec. And the more downlinks you have, the better the stats get. RH> What am I doing wrong? Are most of your areas passthrough? Are RH> you feeding downlinks? The doing wrong part I don't know about (gryn!) but yes, I'm feeding downlinks and most everything is passthru. But I'm not currently getting the 183 stats. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1473 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/21/93 12:22p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount scripted in a message to Robert Hilgar: TB> If you set up a ram drive and uncompressed your mail TB> bundles to it and then run "Squish in" on the uncompressed TB> packets your speed will triple at least. You get the same results with a good cache if you preload it. The mail packet being read is only opened once. Passthru dupe files are continuously opened, rewritten, and closed. Keeping them in a ramdisk will probably bump msg/sec stats about 6 fold. Let the cache handle the in and outbound .Pkt files and locally kept message stuffs. I backup all mail packets about to be tossed (by COPYing them to a holding directory and thereby preloading the cache) and dump write back cache before and after tossing. When using a ramdisk, I copy the tracking files off to hard drive and dump write back cache again before starting archiving the outbound packets. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1474 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 12/21/93 12:39p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Herrbach scripted in a message to Roger Morris: JH> I thought I read that Squish has problems on fast machines, JH> was it related to dupe checking? I don't recall. Think that was with one of the OS/2 betas, I'm not sure and haven't experienced any problems at all other than the 16K message size limit which has been bumped up in the later beta versions. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1475 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/21/93 3:56p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Laz Gottli wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: LG> That is what I am looking at right now. It appeared the 2.04 LG> -ao seemed to be doing a lot of thinking before it started LG> packing. I switched most of my downlinks back to 1.10 and I LG> guess I will see what happens. I think I will give this a try Laz, since speed is my ultimate goal at this point. I tried Terry Blount's suggestion for using a ramdrive and that went nicely. I set up 1meg disk cache also, but that didn't seem to make a bit of difference even with buffers set at a low 10. I guess I need to read the Hyperdisk doc's! I hear that I should place a copy of command.com (4dos in my case :-)) in there also and set a comspec variable and that will also help. I will try that tomorrow. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1476 To: JD BROWN Date: 12/21/93 4:04p Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD Brown wrote in a message to Russell Naber: JB> Nope. Won't work under OS/2. OS/2 won't allow the dongle to JB> speak to the DOS session. I _HATE_ that stupid dongle. It makes me leave the printer on or unplugged. Thats not good. I am no programmer, so I don't know, but can't the Planet Connect software handle this internally like the copy of TVAGENT we are supposed to get does? Time crippling is done all the time with other software. Then, maybe it would work under OS/2 and make a lot of us happy! I would be a nice X-Mas gift for us subscribers! ;-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1477 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/21/93 4:12p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> One more thing..... DO> What do the status fields indicate on the status display at DO> the bottom of the screen? Blocks, Errors, CB and Sz are DO> self-evident, but the PHs, PBs, CBs and T??s are a little DO> more difficult. When there are 3 charachters in the code, the middle one is used for Planet Connect's signal analysis. The left side charachters: A `T` means that the file is trashed and won't be wriiten to your HD, A `$` is for when the LD.LST is being received, a `N` means it didn't get the name of the file. The right side charachters: H,T and B - The header, trailer, or body block is being received, respectively. As for the `P` after a file is received, it means that the file was received properly and written to your HD. Wow, after all that, I wonder if I am right! :-) Regards, Robert Ocean City, NJ - (Windy and Raining, but no signal loss :-)) --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1478 To: SYSOP Date: 12/21/93 4:24p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: S> I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days S> ago... and several days before that! That's odd Tim, I didn't see any of those. The ones I see are properly placed in the PCSTATS area. BTW, Your message was FROM: SYSOP so I had to look in the nodelist to find who you were. Does your "_echomail_" always say from Sysop? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1479 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 4:30p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Wolf wrote in a message to All: BW> What software would i need to use to start tossing the BW> usenet feeds into RemoteAccess? You can use FRED19Q.* or WAF165.* freq'able from origin. (listed nodes only) Fred is nice, if you use it, then you can use whatever tosser you are currently using to toss fido packets. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1480 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/21/93 4:34p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Tracy Mickley: FS> I have mine grounded and sealed in a plastic bag. FS> Then I put it in the bottom of a 5gal bucket. FS> Covered it with 12 inches of dirt to make sure I FS> had a GOOD earth ground and finished by filling FS> the bucket with water!!!.. WOW! Sounds like mine, except for the water part. I covered mine with cement. I'll be damned, I never get an error! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1481 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/21/93 4:40p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to JOE LYDA: GC> includes the msgs you generated yourself. If you don't get GC> them back from the bird, then none of the rest of us get GC> them either. I actually like this particular dupe problem I have dupe checking ON, I never see my messages repeated, but I ALWAYS get a response. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1482 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/21/93 4:49p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TB> if -%1==- goto jump TB> if exist \have\%1 goto gotit TB> pkunzip %1 f:\inbound TB> f: TB> cd\ TB> squish in TB> c: TB> cd\files rem > \have\%1 TB> :gotit TB> del %1 TB> :jump TB> if not -%1==- goto end TB> for %%* in (00*.* ) do call %0 %%* TB> :end I like the logic in your batch file. Thanks for the suggestion, IT WORKS WELL! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1483 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/21/93 4:50p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> Bob, FS> What ya using ?? FS> I'm a 1.1 Wildcater, now using 3.55, but I too am looking FS> for something better. Well there have been many suggestions in this echo to me, and I freq'd everyone's suggested BBS package, Proboard, RA, etc. I have set them all up and have concluded that MAXIMUS is the best for me, so that's what I'm using. It is incredibly flexible, (You can even do RIP) and it (version2.00) was written in 1991! Try it, you'll like it! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1484 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 1:35a Subj: PC Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Someone please acknowledge that they received this message. Sorry, but I refuse to! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1485 To: BILL WALTON Date: 12/21/93 1:56a Subj: missing some tics Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I am missing tic files for the following -> -> CASEY101 SDN 306535 12-06-93 1:30a -> SR_NET01 ZIP 62576 11-12-93 7:35a -> M2GV020 EXE 40582 11-15-93 8:43p -> RA2GV020 EXE 41470 11-15-93 8:43p -> TG2GV020 EXE 41699 11-15-93 8:43p -> F370_510 ZIP 24473 12-17-93 12:17a -> MAPPER51 LZH 171008 12-10-93 9:48a -> OCLN109 ZIP 304579 11-24-93 10:48a -> WMAMGR HLP 10286 11-17-93 10:52a -> ARLK051 LZH 2014 12-10-93 5:31p -> SPC1206 LZH 3232 12-10-93 5:31p -> OPDX138 LZH 3220 12-10-93 5:31p -> CONDO007 LZH 3769 12-10-93 5:31p -> EZPKT_17 ZIP 63351 12-10-93 5:31p -> HLOG222E EXE 350353 12-10-93 5:31p -> WRITEL ZIP 837466 12-10-93 5:31p -> TIMEZ ZIP 86682 12-10-93 5:31p -> AMSAT338 LZH 2745 12-10-93 5:31p -> COIL112 EXE 33660 12-10-93 5:31p -> CPD381 ARJ 8769 12-10-93 11:09p -> SEAL_030 ARJ 174145 12-11-93 12:55a If these are the files that came through on the 19th, I am missing TIC's for 28 of them as well! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1486 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/21/93 2:01a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How come your not using WM with the built in Areamgr? Pissed -> at Joe and the boys? :) How could that be possible? Good thing they write some darn good code! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1487 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/21/93 2:03a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> There are a little under 2500...... Hate to break this to you Greg, but I have been gating NewsGroups for over 8 months now, and at last count, there were around 5,000 NewsGroups, and I believe the last figure I heard was around the 5,500'ish mark. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1488 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 2:51a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I did not know that John had me in his routing statement. I notice -> of those bad GMD messages floating thru here to 3615/51. They hit the -> bit-bucket so I hope everyone is not getting any of them over the sat I sent a test message thru 3615/50 addressed to 396/1 and he got it without it going all over the globe as well. That's what I meant when I said I had sent a test message to John. You sent it to him after your sytem received it from me. Routing through your system worked. As to the GMD messages. Didn't come in here. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1489 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/21/93 10:37a Subj: PC Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BW>Someone please acknowledge that they received this message. Got you here Bill. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLYNN LITTLETON Number: 1490 To: ALL Date: 12/22/93 8:44a Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Is anyone using PC without using a multitasker/network? My net just purchased the satellite equip and we're now in the process of setting up the computer. We're trying to run it on a 386sx16 using DV but it appears this is not going to work as PC is continually writting to the hd giving FrontDoor no chance, ie, setting ticks 9 to 3 with FrontDoor in the foreground, it takes about 30 rings before FD will even answer the phone :( Any suggestions? Thanks, Glynn --- GEcho386 1.01+ * Origin: Coastal Carolina Hub (1:3628/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 1491 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 9:57p Subj: AREAFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I hate to have to ask this question, but..... Has anyone figured out how to make AREAFIX or Remote Echo Control (REC) handle Planet Connect. Here is the problem I have and I cannot seem to hit the correct config. I recieve the entire backbone from PC, 1:3615/51..I must set up my areas.bbs so that 1:3615/50 is who the replies go back to, ie: AREA_TAG 1:3615/50 (nodes i am feeding) I can not get areafix or REC to understand that I need them to see 1:3615/50 as MY feed (I think) and insert that address after the area tag, but NOT say all messages are from 1:3615/50 and NOT try to send the request on to 1:3615/50...but to just add them as pass thru areas. I hope all this makes sense, and I know that someone, somewhere has figured all of this out . I would really like to see some configs for AREAFIX or REC that is working. BTW, I am running FREEMAIL as a tosser/scanner. Emmett MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1492 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/22/93 10:18a Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Joe Lyda <12-20-93 15:16> Jeff Olesen wrote: JO> -> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped JO> -> back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in JO> -> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it JO> -> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. JO> -> Boyd got the netmail stuff fixed now lets find this dupe loop and JO> -> fix it. P L E A S E JO> JO> Considering I've seen relatively few Dupes, I'd say your software is JO> failing to kill your own dupes that are coming back to you (as they JO> should be). JO> Don't forget, you are sending them out as 1:3622/100 and getting them JO> back as 1:3615/51. Hello Joe, what you have described is the way a properly setup system should work, as Jeff Olessen pointed out... Your should be sending the Mail to 3615/50 with your Primary Node Number and a Copy gets forwarded to the Star 1:396/1 and another copy is forwared on to the rest of us via the Satellite, which you are connected to and receiving your message back addressed to 3615/51, but your Mail processor is seeing your primary node number in the Seenby's and correctly identifying it as a DUPE.. if you did not get your Own Message back as a Dupe in this Maner, then you would have been doing something Wrong, like including your AKA (3615/51) in the Seenbys and None of the Rest of us would ever see your Message... The ONLY Problem I see that you may be having, is that your Mail processor should be configured to Either, 1. Bit-Bucket all Dups, or 2.) save the Dupes in a Dup Directory, and not process them on down the line.. But the Fact that your receiving your Own Messages back via the Satellite indicates that your sending then out ok, and the rest of the backbone should also be getting your message as original messages as intended. Regards, George Vandervort NEC Net382 --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SERVO Number: 1493 To: ALL Date: 12/19/93 12:27a Subj: Filemgr/Filebone.na Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All. Just got our PC Sat up, and are in the midst of configuring. I am trying to import the entire Filebone into my Filemgr with a passthru status, and can't seem to make this work. Is there anyone out there running Filemgr Gamma who can help? I have read that many are running allfix, but since my messagebase format isn't supported, I don't think it's an option for me. [I am running Synchronet BBS v1c if it matters] Thanks for any help! John --- -Synchronet-GEcho- * Origin: -OFFWoRLD- (303)343ú6978/0691/0693 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 1494 To: ALL Date: 12/21/93 11:28p Subj: :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi. Just testing. So...uh.....TEST. john --- -Synchronet-GEcho- * Origin: -OFFWoRLD- (303)343ú6978/0691/0693 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1495 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/22/93 10:33a Subj: 2400 baud connection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: CC> I got hit by the same thing; Boyd removed the HST and put a CC> V.32bis in it's place and I started connecting at only 2400. CC> I've since switched around here to call him with a USR DS CC> and all is back to normal. You don't have an extra dual laying around you want to lend out do you? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1496 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/21/93 9:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Jerry Dunlap writes: JD>I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, JD>Boyd. I'll see if Finney in Chattanooga is having the same JD>problem and if he is, we'll get Bell to look at your trunk group. It's intermittant at this end. About 1 out of 5 zip right through. The rest fail in various stages of timeout and hangups. It's also interesting to note that I get quite a few NO CONNECTs when trying to call him. Analog calls work first time every time. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1497 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/21/93 10:01p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg, I'm not sure what your plans are for Skymail, but I'd like to make a suggestion. Today I got all but one file on the first pass... yeh, I'm amazed too. Anyway, those files were filebone files not mail. One of the benefits of Skymail is that it solves the miss-match tic/file problem created when some are received and some aren't. This is done by simply not doing anything with any of them until they are ALL in. Today, for some reason that one file didn't come thru error free until the end of the third pass this evening, consequently none of the filebone stuff processed. If Skymail did a coorelation between FDN files and their associate Tic files and allowed the received pairs to be passed on to the processor, these could have been processed out much earlier. Would that be something you might consider adding as an option? Say; "tick_match" which only moves something from the skydata\inbound to the hold area and adds it to the index if the pair is complete. It's a thought. :-) Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1498 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/22/93 3:02p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You get the same results with a good cache if you preload it. The ma -> being read is only opened once. Passthru dupe files are continuously -> rewritten, and closed. Keeping them in a ramdisk will probably bump -> stats about 6 fold. Let the cache handle the in and outbound .Pkt fi -> locally kept message stuffs. I backup all mail packets about to be t -> COPYing them to a holding directory and thereby preloading the cache) -> write back cache before and after tossing. When using a ramdisk, I c -> tracking files off to hard drive and dump write back cache again befo -> starting archiving the outbound packets. -> -> -> ... Remus ... Could ya say that again in English???!!! :) And how much ram are we talking about??? I'm tossing the entire fidonet.na /.no. I get about 14/sec now with a 3 meg hyperdisk. I have to make up several complete duplicates of the entire load. There are also about 4 more sets, with less echos involved. On a 386dx-40, it takes about 2.5 hours to toss and pack all the stuff. I'd sure like to increase the speed. P.S., Have 8 megs of ram on that system. Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1499 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/22/93 3:03p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As for the `P` after a file is received, it means that the file w -> received properly and written to your HD. -> -> Wow, after all that, I wonder if I am right! :-) -> -> -> Regards, -> Robert -> -> Ocean City, NJ - (Windy and Raining, but n -> signal loss :-)) -> YA BETTER BE!!!! :) Hi Bob!! Fred here. I'm maybe 75 miles up the coast from ya in "good 'ol Sayreville, NJ" !!! Home of the GSP's biggest bridge. Just printed out your explination and I will be putting it by the PC system. Thanks and HAVE A MERRY!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1500 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/22/93 3:03p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> WOW! Sounds like mine, except for the water part. I covered m -> with cement. I'll be damned, I never get an error! -> -> Regards, -> Robert Was gonna do the same, but if I have to mail it back for some reason, I don't want to have to pay all that postage!! :) Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1501 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/22/93 2:56p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well there have been many suggestions in this echo to me, and -> freq'd everyone's suggested BBS package, Proboard, RA, etc. -> I have set them all up and have concluded that MAXIMUS is the -> best for me, so that's what I'm using. It is incredibly -> flexible, (You can even do RIP) and it (version2.00) was writ -> in 1991! Try it, you'll like it! -> -> -> Regards, -> Robert -> Hmm... Well, WildCat is supposed to be doing a few things in the next version ( 4 ), that will speed things up. May just wait and see. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1502 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/22/93 2:58p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Okay folks, for anyone using the QuickBBS style AREAS.BBS file, you c -> -> FREQ: PCAREAS -> -> This program will take a FIDONET.NA (or any ASCII file) and check it -> your AREAS.BBS, adding any that aren't currently configured. It will -> them into the AREAS.BBS as 'P'assthru, adding the 1:3615/50 uplink! -> -> Cheers, Chuck -> -> Chuck, Do ya have something or know of something that will add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? Right now, the only way I know of is to do it by hand. Anyone out there that can point me in the right direction??? I'm presently using TIC and RAID. Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1503 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/22/93 7:54p Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Here's something to add to your TO-DO list, next time your looking at the Code for PTCCMAIN.EXE in the first Pulldown window , Status, Watch, View, Dos Shell, eXit No biggy.. but when activating the Watch mode, you can Pause the Watch Mode, but it stays on the Screen when you try to Exit the watch mode.. it would be a Nice Option to be able to re-display the Planet Connect Screen when Exiting the Watch Mode.. instead of having to Exit PTCCMAIN.. Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1504 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/22/93 4:30p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen my > users > get replies and I am now beginning to feel left out :-[ I'm a somebody, not an anybody...[grin] You're making it all the way to Ottawa, Ontario in the great white north. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1505 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/22/93 4:34p Subj: BBS SOFTWARE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Is ver1.10 really faster than 2.04? > > > That is what I am looking at right now. It appeared the 2.04 -ao > seemed to be doing a lot of thinking before it started packing. I > switched most of my downlinks back to 1.10 and I guess I will see > what happens. I can't see why you'd be worried about a few seconds. The time spent using 204g would be well recovered when the files are downloaded by your downlinks. To me online time is more important that a few seconds lost while offline. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1506 To: RICK JOHNSTON Date: 12/22/93 5:41p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> What software would i need to use to start tossing the usenet >> feeds into RemoteAccess? > you just need to wait three months or so... > They're working with Merlin software to create > something similar to PCBUUCP for RA systems, and it's > been announced that it will be ready by the end of > March... Really? Is this for PRO users only, or will it be available for shareware systems as well? This sounds great. Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 1507 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/22/93 6:14a Subj: Re: pcboard files on the Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The PCBOARD filebone areas are going over the sat. OK, Thanks Boyd. I like your setup alot. I wish Rime would speed things up so we could knock out the phone bill. -g- Mike --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1508 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 12/22/93 4:55p Subj: Fidopcb? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOYou've probably seen my other message by now Frank, but unless FIDO is the o FTN net you are carrying, you can't use FIDOPCB. I have it, registered, but O.K., thanks for the info. I saw your other post and was wondering what other PCBoard sysops were using. The InterPCB/Tosscan is slow. I ran FidoPCB in its shareware/demo mode (20 echoes) and like the way it went from packets to PCBoard messages skipping the *.msg format. * 1st 1.10 #310s * Romulan warbird decloaking sir... ..[.... NO CARRIER --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1509 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/22/93 11:35a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Lajoie wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: -> There are a little under 2500...... TL> Hate to break this to you Greg, but I have been gating TL> NewsGroups for over 8 months now, and at last count, there TL> were around 5,000 NewsGroups, and I believe the last figure TL> I heard was around the 5,500'ish mark. If you say so :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1510 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/21/93 8:17p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: DO> I've looked at that. The major problem with ISDN is the DO> CONNECT 38400 or CONNECT 57600 messages. 2.50.EE didn't do DO> a thing for it. Binkley had some code with signed integer DO> variables that put those connects in the negative and short DO> circuited all error timing loops. 2.58 solved that problem. Yeah, I can see why that would be a problem...:/ DO> I think the problem is with the ISDN itself and not the DO> software, but the jury is still out. Well good luck in solving the problem... DO> Thanks, Happy Holidays To you and yours also! Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1511 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/22/93 4:27p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have dupe checking ON, I never see my messages repeated, but I > ALWAYS get a response. I have it ON as well. I just direct the dupes to a Dupe Folder so I can be aware of where the dupes are occurring. So I always *can* see them if I take the time :-) .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1512 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/22/93 4:30p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yes it was sent over the bird.....As for your FREQ, I did notice It seems every time I find a problem I can trace its origin back to the guy on this side of the monitor :-) I expect I neglected to set the Request flag on those msgs BUT as it turns out I did get it off the bird and didn't realize I had an autocreated directory where PCUtils are now sitting. It runs on automatic so well that I don't check closely enough to see what's going on :-) Thanks for the reply and I will give Skymail a look. Merry Christmas to you and yours, .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1513 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/22/93 4:32p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > No he's not. Besides the inevitable dupe, someone is sending > everything right back out with a new message id and everything. I never noticed that here Todd. You mean specifically in the Planet Connect echo? I know there is a VFido system polluting a couple of other echos but I haven't noticed any real flux of duplicates here. But again, I am not watching that closely. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1514 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/22/93 4:34p Subj: SupraFax Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sounds like a port locking problem. Check to see if all > software is set for a locked port and if the fossil driver is I have no idea on this one. I reconnected the v32 to see if I could tweak it, and made a run to PC to observe and it connected fine without me changing anything. Maybe a case of unusual line conditions. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 1515 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/22/93 4:59p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Planet Connect has to broadcast "new" messages that you uplink via landline to Tennessee. Else how would other satellite downlinks get them? Your tosser should recognize them as dupes and discard them or send them to the dupe area. --- QM v1.30 * Origin: Jobs_BBS, PDX OR USA +1(503)281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1516 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/21/93 11:01p Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> freq. The filename is NEWSGRPS.ZIP and was compiled on July 25, 1993. -> This list contains 5,633 newsgroups. -> -> Freq from origin, LISTED NODES ONLY! Well, I just tried freq'ing the file. My system connected to your, sent the REQ file and then nothing.... no file sent back. --Martin-- P.S. I am a listed node. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 1517 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/12/93 8:20p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert it to > BG> icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you want > BG> > BG> THis is just what I heard now folks. > BG> > BG> ...Boyd > Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the > screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there > that can do it please fill me in. It works, Just have to make them smaller and join them. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 1518 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/12/93 8:22p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could > easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If > you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. I think it is more Do it at your own risk! If you don't like that, go thru your normal channels. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 1519 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/12/93 8:29p Subj: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd! > Those systems are at it again...... > 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and > 'round the atmosphere........ > Can they be stopped Yep. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 1520 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 12/14/93 7:20a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he was able to > convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as well, so we are ready! Dave, What was the process needed to convert these. ie. Program name required. Thanks. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange *Multi-Lines* 804-877-3539 (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1521 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/21/93 5:01p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/20/93> Fred Seibel wrote: FS> -> FS> This same system will be used when I am ready to accept FS> -> FS> links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). FS> -> FS> -> Fred could you put AREAFIX and your AREAFIX.CTL file where I can FS> -> freq it for me. FS> -> Joe FS> -> FS> Sorry for the delay in my answer. FS> Will do soon as I can. Will let ya know. FS> If next year gets here and you haven't heard FS> from me, YELL!!! FS> Fred No problem, mine is working fairly well but! Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Look Ma! My first tagline.... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1522 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 12/21/93 5:03p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Randy! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/20/93> Randy Blackmond wrote: RB> RB> JL> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped RB> JL> back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in RB> JL> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it RB> JL> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. RB> My net just started receiving the sat. link not too long ago and this ver RB> subject crossed my mind... It would seem these type of dupes are inherent RB> impossible to avoid. If you send a message up to PC, you'd inevitably get RB> back in the next sat. downlink since you're getting the same packets ever RB> else is.. Think about it. My tosser detects and kills these dupe ring mes RB> so I don't really have a problem with them. Doesn't cost me any more or l RB> dollar-wise... Maybe an extra minute or so processing and a few more K of RB> space used temporarily. I understand that and am aware of what you are saying, however, getting them back 3 and 4 times I do not understand. It is no big thing with me other than with the neighborhood of 16000 messages daily and several are lastweeks dupes does raise a question in my mind. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Horn broke...watch for finger. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1523 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/21/93 5:07p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/20/93> Glenn Caleval wrote: GC> > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is GC> > duped back to me the next day. GC> ... GC> > fix it. P L E A S E GC> You're joking, right Joe? :-) GC> In case you are not, here is the explanation. Every msg that you generate GC> come back to you as a dupe. There is no other way for it to work. Your ms GC> hits PC, it gets packaged with all the others and uplinked to the satelli GC> You then downlink the mail from the satellite which, hopefully, includes GC> msgs you generated yourself. If you don't get them back from the bird, th GC> none of the rest of us get them either. I actually like this particular d GC> problem because it makes for very easy tracking of outbound echomail volu GC> and identification of any problems. GC> .glenn. I am fully aware that when I sens out some message(s) that the tosser puts origin line on it and I will get them back as a new message. That does support several things here, like how long it took etc, that I too like. It is 3 or 4 times in a row I get the same stuff back is what I am refering to. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * ... The Lean, Mean, Reading Machine... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1524 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 12/21/93 5:13p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jeff! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/20/93> Jeff Olesen wrote: JO> -> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped back JO> me JO> -> the next day. There is several dupes coming in JO> -> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it JO> -> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. JO> -> Boyd got the netmail stuff fixed now lets find this dupe loop and fix JO> -> P L E A S E JO> Considering I've seen relatively few Dupes, I'd say your software is fail JO> to JO> kill your own dupes that are coming back to you (as they should be). Don' JO> forget, you are sending them out as 1:3622/100 and getting them back as JO> 1:3615/51. This I do understand and favor that. I will look at things here and see if I have goofed it up. I have been known to boggle the mind here before. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * WcEDIT - No Cholesterol! No Saturated fats! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1525 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/22/93 5:02p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Laz! LG> That is probably your meesage coming back at you. Your tosser needs some LG> tweeking. I had to really increase my dupe checks to take care of this so LG> thing. I did that on this end as well. Will look at it futher though. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1526 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/22/93 5:05p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/21/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is JD> > duped JD> > back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in JD> > lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it JD> Every message that you write will come back to you as a dupe from now on. JD> Since your mail bundles are identical to those that I recieve off the bir JD> your messages have got to be in there for me to see them. It's just one JD> the necessary evils of this new technology. JD> When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? I've been wait JD> for you guys for months? When you gona tell me how much equipment will cost me to test it. I could install it fairly soon if I could get the ball park on initial cost. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Always assume the second try will be different. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1527 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/22/93 5:14p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/22/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> Hello John! JL> -> JL> -> In a message to Joe Lyda <12/19/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> JL> I've seen that your wrestling with areafix and Gomail. JL> -> JL> How come your not using WM with the built in Areamgr? Pissed JL> -> JL> at Joe and the boys? :) JL> -> JL> -> Not at all pisses at them, in fact the only dealings with them is JL> -> with WCFF 3.51 and it works very well for me now. JL> It's always worked for me too. But now that I'm tossing the entire JL> Filebone, it has a lot to be desired. It's a memory hog! JL> I have 620k available mem on the workstation that does the tics. JL> When I added the entire filebone the .CFG file grew to about 57k. JL> Well that locked it up tighter than a mouses ear. I had to edit the JL> .CFG down to 36k before it would run again. I guess a new version JL> is to be released soon though. JL> -> I must admit that JL> -> I have been following the pros and cons of OCR's products and may JL> -> someday upgrade WCFF or switch tossers but not soon. JL> I've had my rounds with them. But WM 3.1 is a pretty good product, JL> something us WC'ers should have had a long time ago. The New JL> WCFF should as good and a GREAT improvement over 3.51. I'm in the JL> process now of trying their UUCP. I got MSI's UUCP and trying it. Will evaluate theirs as well but I am not goina get it for awhile. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Now diamonds AND AIDS are forever. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANA HUGGARD Number: 1528 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/21/93 6:25p Subj: Re: usenet newsgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 20 Dec 93 19:29:35, Dan Williamson wrote: DW> Dana Huggard wrote in a message to All: DH> Can anyone tellme what format the .bag format is on the DH> newsgroups that come in? Are these Fredgate format? Waffle DW> They are files that are the equivalent to a D.hakatac294 file. They DW> are the data that the X and C files Act on. Simply leaving out the DW> middleman and processing the data into usenet areas can be DW> accomplished by most of the PC echo to UNIX newsgroup convertors. Interesting.. I was under the impression they where not in this format.. I can use those.. (as I'm running AmigaUUCP), but the MS-DOS machines cannot handle these filenames.. So I am not yet trusting this method of recieving them through fidonet. I should speak with someone in my local net here to find out more.. thank you. Merry Christmas Dan. Cheers, Dana_H ____ \TF/ TERRA-FIRMA-BBS / Serving the Amiga Community. \/ FidoNet 1:153/765.0 LDSHub - AmigaNet 40:800/765.0 (ADS/SAN) Internet: Dana_Huggard@tfbbs.Wimsey.COM --- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail v2.52 * Origin: TERRA FIRMA BBS (1:153/765) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANA HUGGARD Number: 1529 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/22/93 12:00a Subj: Re: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message dated 20 Dec 93 20:17:02, Todd Lyons wrote: [...] > I am not running it so don't know for sure, but if so, I would hate to > give up the .QWK and FidoNet for newsgroups. I already get newsgroups > here but would prefer dish feed if the bandwidth will allow it, not if > it will take away from the current .QWK/FidoNet stuff coming through it. By what method.. or what software do you use for your UUCP Todd? Cheers, Dana_H ____ \TF/ TERRA-FIRMA-BBS / Serving the Amiga Community. \/ FidoNet 1:153/765.0 LDSHub - AmigaNet 40:800/765.0 (ADS/SAN) Internet: Dana_Huggard@tfbbs.Wimsey.COM --- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail v2.52 * Origin: TERRA FIRMA BBS (1:153/765) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 1530 To: ALL Date: 12/22/93 8:41p Subj: Re: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: internet .BAG files BY: Boyd Goodin to Dave James on Sun Dec 19 1993 11:42 pm Hi - We just installed a 3ft KU here in Denver, and are wondering what it takes to toss internet usegroup stuffs...Also - Where do I get whatever it takes? Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it should, but the packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I am using Gecho 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send from my 1:104/675 address with no luck?!? AND - We are using Synchronet v1c rev2 as a BBS software, and was wondering if anyone else out there was using the same software with a dish for future comparison of notes :) Thanks - John Kaufman --- -Synchronet-GEcho- * Origin: -OFFWoRLD- (303)343ú6978/0691/0693 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN KAUFMAN Number: 1531 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/22/93 8:54p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: ERROR BLOCK'S BY: Chris Wiesner to Todd Lyons on Sun Dec 19 1993 04:55 pm > > >> The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept > >> away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a > >> Faraday cage around it. > > > > FWIW, I have my receiver above two computers and below a monitor. I > > just don't get any errors. I have the C band receiver. I have mine sitting atop a Sanusi Monster speaker...No errors here! We are using the KU... john --- -Synchronet-GEcho- * Origin: -OFFWoRLD- (303)343ú6978/0691/0693 (1:104/675) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1532 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/22/93 9:02p Subj: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> DO> HOLD Not Recieved TB> DO> HOLD1 Not Recieved Tim they were in the UPLD.LST that day but had no files of that name were sent TB> p.s. PCUTIL will log subdirectory names on every pass too... And PCFU still does, and a whole lot more.... John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1533 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/23/93 12:29a Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH>Tim wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: RH>S> I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days RH>S> ago... and several days before that! RH> That's odd Tim, I didn't see any of those. The ones I see are RH> properly placed in the PCSTATS area. RH> BTW, Your message was FROM: SYSOP so I had to look in the nodelist to RH> find who you were. Does your "_echomail_" always say from Sysop? RH> Regards, RH> Robert RH> Sorry, I've been trying to get GEcho to use the right user address for sending the reply mail back to PC and a forced rescan bumped this message out from several weeks ago from a .msg folder. Outbound mail such as this one should normally automatically substitute my real name... holler if it doesn't. Haven't had that problem before and I hope that I don't have it now. I can appreciate not having echomail addressed to sysop. -Tim ... oh, and I haven't seen those gmd messages for a couple of weeks either... --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY WAGONER Number: 1534 To: ALL Date: 12/23/93 1:47a Subj: Forward to??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well, being new to this all, I am unsure of how to do a couple of things. I have been told a couple of times, but Still don't understand. I need to know, do I need to set a Route to? I would much prefer that all my outbound go out to one system, and I assume that should be 3615/50 but not sure. I run Dbridge and I currently took out my POLL to 3615/50 as I see no need to call everyday unless there is mail to deliver. Should I set Dbridge to Hold ALL and then just POLL or is there a way for it to only call when there is outgoing mail? Any help would be appreciated. Would it be possible for me to freq. a config export of Dbridge from someone? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0395] * Origin: Signal Butte BBS (1:3400/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 1535 To: ALL Date: 12/22/93 7:22a Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hi im a new fido sysop and have had some some echos for over two weeks now without a message one in them i talked to my nec about it and he said it might be that some echos are not carried via planet connect if that is the case could someone tell witch ones arent so i could drop them and let my users know that those are not carried thank you --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1536 To: RA SYSOPS Date: 12/23/93 3:21a Subj: RAFN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've be corresponding with Reinier De.Groot who is the head of the Remote Access File Network (RAFN) which originates in Zone 2. I thought you might like to be updated with some optimistic news: =====begin netmail EXCERPT======= GC > can't hope to do the long distance required to pick up the GC > areas from you, and would guess that's why there is no link now. RDG> There is light in the distance. We probably will have a new RDG> link again soon. > RADist, which was serving zone 1 has become a "membership > organization" and will not allow distribution via any means > other than long distance phone calls. So they have cut off a large > number of systems in areas like Saskatchewan. Bad news....That won't be our policy. ======end netmail EXCERPT====== Basically Reinier says that they will restore a Zone 2 to Zone 1 link and when they do, they will be glad to have RAFN on Planet Connect. I again want to encourage everyone to correspond with any shareware authors they know to let them know what FDNs are distributed on the satellite so that they, the authors, can ensure they hatch into the FDNs that get their software the best exposure. Don't assume they will know anything about any of this, but write netmail and let them know. You are really helping them market their work by doing so and most will appreciate the sentiment. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1537 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/22/93 5:21p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> How come your not using WM with the built in Areamgr? Pissed -> -> at Joe and the boys? :) -> -> How could that be possible? Good thing they write some darn good -> code! Hehehehe...I've seen some of your posts to them. :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1538 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/22/93 12:10p Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Tim Lajoie writes: TL>Thanks for the update. BTW, am I correct to assume that at the start TL>of the NEW daily feed, the feed does NOT stop, and just switches over TL>from what is currently coming across and starts feeding the new info? If TL>so, what are the chances of getting the feed start fresh so that we can TL>get an errol level and drop out, as we do with the repeats? Boyd, I'd have to agree with Tim that it would be nice to have a clean start. It is apparent that the final cycle doens't totally complete, the one I watched yesterday just stopped mid way of a file and after about 15 minutes of dead time, started the new stuff. Having that final cycle to exit and then pick up fresh after the dead time would be nice. Understandable that it may be more difficult than it sounds. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1539 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/22/93 12:41p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Robert Hilgar writes: RH> Wow, after all that, I wonder if I am right! :-) Whether you're right or not, it's one hell of a lot more than I knew before. THANKS! D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1540 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/22/93 12:43p Subj: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Tim Brown writes: DO>What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in DO>the download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic DO>processing as Skymail never would have reported all received. TB>Looks like 2 directory names to me! Could be. They certainly constipated the pipes that day. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1541 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/22/93 9:11p Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Sunday December 19 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Russell Naber: DS> In a msg on > Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? DS> Doesn't work. They said that they were more interested in making a version DS> for unix rather then os/2. Seems like they have never heard of the gnu DS> compilers? Since most unix stuff has been converted to os/2 it should not DS> take long after they do the unix port to come up with an os/2 port. I DS> would do it for them, but I guess that I will just have to figure it out DS> on my own. DS> -+- msgedsq/2 2.1 DS> + Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then finish's the mail tossing? Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1542 To: JD BROWN Date: 12/22/93 9:14p Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JD! Sunday December 19 1993, JD Brown writes to Russell Naber: JB> CIS: 72027,2432 Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org IBM LINK @ JB> DEV0580 RN>> Hello All! RN>> RN>> RN>> Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? RN>> RN>> If so can you netmail me with your phone number, I wish to contact RN>> somebody that can provide me with some before you buy advice. JB> Nope. Won't work under OS/2. OS/2 won't allow the dongle to speak to the JB> DOS session. JB> ___ JB> X KWQ/2 1.2a X Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who JB> smoked po JB> -+- Maximus/2 2.01wb JB> + Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1) Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then finish's the mail tossing? Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1543 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/22/93 6:14a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Hi Chuck, -> Say, do ya have one that will automaticaly update ->the tic control file??? Have you looked at RAID? That is a filemanager like AreaFix, but it's for filenets. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1544 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/22/93 6:53a Subj: GEcho Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Are there any programs or utilities that will scan the badecho folder and ->autoadd those areas in GEcho? I'm adding that to my program tonight hopefully. ->Or anything that will read in a fidonet.n? file, and autoadd those new areas ->into GEcho.. I have written one that does it for QuickBBS style AREAS.BBS. Give me some info on 'P'assthru's for GEcho and I'll add the code for it! Chuck p.s. FREQ: PCAREAS for the QuickBBS one! --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1545 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/22/93 6:58a Subj: Ticks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well I don't realy know what happened to all those ticks but I have taken ->precaution to not letting it happen again. From this day on you will be able ->get every tick you need by freq from 3615/51 a file that starts with the date ->of the ticks you want and ending in ZIP. Like if you missed some of todays ->(12-21-93) all you would have to do is freq 12-21-93.ZIP from this system and ->you will get it. I apologize for losing those tic files and I dont have them ->here. I hope this will insure a complete backup of all tics. Why not have that go out the next day on the SAT as well? Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1546 To: ALL Date: 12/23/93 3:16p Subj: Internet/Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Everyone! I hope this is not off topic, if so, I appologize! With the coming of USENET via the sattelite, many of us are interested in learning more about the Internet and its workings. I have prepared this list for anyone with such interests. Files below can be FREQ'd by LISTED NODES ONLY via my origin line. There is a limit of 20 files and 3-Megs per day for all KNOWN systems. ======================================================================== USENET.TXT 3247 Notes on Usenet Newsgroups gated at 1:107/10 UUCPHELP.TXT 6046 Help for using UUCP gateway at 1:1/31 UUORIGIN.ARC 35875 A set of utilities to enhance usage of the UFgate utilities U_INTRO.ZIP 6951 Intro to Usenet NEWSGRPS.ZIP 115692 List of UseNet Newsgroups BGI12.ZIP 91317 The Beginner's Guide to the Internet (DOS Only) BIG_DUMY.ZIP 121714 Big Dummies Guide to the Internet D_10INET.ZIP 1204089 The Desktop Internet Reference, 18,000 pages! (Needs Windows) EXPLORER.ZIP 223017 The Internet Explorers Toolkit. Hypertext) FREENET.TXT 3550 List of Public Access Internet Sites FTP_MAN.ZIP 3144 A Beginners Guide to FTP INETARCH.ZIP 5699 Easy-to-understand explanation of Internet's ARCHIE service. INETBASC.ZIP 7116 Internet Basics by Roy Tennant. Covers the fundamentals. INETCONN.ZIP 17165 Places to call to get connected to the Internet. INETFIND.ZIP 2390 How to find someone on the Internet. INETGLOS.ZIP 32955 Glossary of terms used on the Internet. INETGOLD.ZIP 17584 Finding informational resources on the Internet. Good poop. INETGUID.ZIP 23057 "Hitchikers Guide to InterNet" explains the InterNet system. INETINFO.ZIP 4296 General information on the Internet and InterNIC. INETSERV.ZIP 14730 List of locations on Internet to get files, data, lists, etc INETVOYG.ZIP 28190 The Internet Voyager - a guide to FTPing on the Internet. INET_AG.ZIP 32464 Internet sources of data related to farming & agriculture. INET_BIB.ZIP 4849 Bibliography of Internet materials. Useful for beginners. INET_FYI.ZIP 4446 Index of Internet FYI documents. See my message in file. INET_HUM.ZIP 4178 Availability of a humanities database on the Internet. INET_LOC.ZIP 23060 Using the Internet to connect to the Library of Congress. INET_NP.ZIP 7794 Writing letters to editors? Internet addresses of newspapers INTERNET.FAQ 18573 The Fido "Internet" conference frequently asked questions INTERNET.INS 6050 Instructions for using Internet gateway at 1:1/31 PDIAL010.ZIP 10833 Internet Public Dial Up list # 10 ZEN&ART.ZIP 169379 Zen and the Art of the Internet INTERNET.RIP 7236 Internet Screen by George Ramos ALTPGPFQ.ZIP 47869 PGP Frequently Asked Questions [FAQ] from Internet alt.pgp.security. WUUCP100.ZIP 1081446 WILDUUCP! v1.00 - Internet/FSTC Gateway for WILDCAT! v3+ HIHOTELN.ZIP 400013 A 2.xPM app that catalogs many Internet resources. If you have TCP/IP you can telnet, ftp, gopher to these sites. IRC10G.ZIP 32513 IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client for OS/2. IRC client for OS/2 allows you to chat with other users, off of the Internet, using an IRC server. IRC10H.ZIP 32742 IRC Client for OS/2 - allows you to run off of an IRC server - V1.0h fixes bugs when dealing with V2.8.X servers. GMSG406.ZIP 85234 GenMSG .MSG msgbase editor interface with Internet/PGP support. ENJOY! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1547 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/23/93 7:16p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> Hi Bob!! FS> Fred here. I'm maybe 75 miles up the coast from ya in FS> "good 'ol Sayreville, NJ" !!! FS> Home of the GSP's biggest bridge. Wow! Planet Connect is making this a smaller world. That's not far at all. FS> Just printed out your explination and I will be putting it FS> by the PC system. Hope it helps. FS> Thanks and HAVE A MERRY!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and yours also. Hey, don't forget to watch Howard Stern's New Years Eve Party on PPV! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1548 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/23/93 7:19p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> Was gonna do the same, but if I have to mail it back for FS> some reason, I don't want to have to pay all that postage!! FS> :) Damn, I better get out the chisel just in case! ;-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1549 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/23/93 7:21p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Chuck Warren: FS> Do ya have something or know of something that will FS> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? FS> Right now, the only way I know of is to do it by hand. If you had Squish areas (HINT), you would be able to use SEAL. With WC though, I don't know. Regards, Robert Subliminal message below: Use MAXIMUS Use MAXIMUS Use MAXIMUS Use MAXIMUS Use MAXIMUS Use MAXIMUS --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1550 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/23/93 7:24p Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Vandervort wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: GV> Regards, GV> George Vandervort Wow, this world is getting smaller by the day! You're the guy with the fancy BinkleyTerm template. I saved it from a L O N G time ago. Remember....... Oops! The Cat Drank up ALL of my BEER and I've gone to the store... try checking your Spelling and or Request "FILES" for a Current Available Files list. _ _ /| \'o.O' Hic! Pffft! Meow! =(___)= // | U | \ \\ My MS/Dos Disk ---> | (*) | \ >> |__U__| / \// Beta-Tester for: _// || _\ / QuickBBS, 1EDIT, (_/ (_| (___/ ShamPage Magic name SHAM QBEST 3.3, Name that TUNE Thank you for your patience. GerbilNET NEC George Vandervort, George Vandervort - QUICKPRO Moderator Lounge Lizard's Retreat HST San Marcos, Tx, 1:382/8@Fidonet DS-HST/V32bis/V42bis (33Mhz 486DX) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1551 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/23/93 7:28p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: > I have dupe checking ON, I never see my messages repeated, but I > ALWAYS get a response. GC> I have it ON as well. I just direct the dupes to a Dupe GC> Folder so I can be aware of where the dupes are occurring. GC> So I always *can* see them if I take the time :-) Oopps! I forgot, but have KILLDUPES enabled! I really don't enjoy reading the same thing twice anyway. :-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1552 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/23/93 7:32p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: GC> I know there is a VFido system polluting a couple of other GC> echos but I haven't noticed any real flux of duplicates GC> here. But again, I am not watching that closely. I HATE that VBBS stuff. It made alot people capable of joining Fidonet without knowing anything about it. It's like a disease! Sorry, but I am entitled to my opinion. I'm back on topic for now on, I just couldn't hold that back any longer. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1553 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/23/93 7:36p Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to ROBERT HILGAR: -> freq. The filename is NEWSGRPS.ZIP and was compiled on July 25, 1993. -> This list contains 5,633 newsgroups. -> Freq from origin, LISTED NODES ONLY! MB> Well, I just tried freq'ing the file. My system connected MB> to your, sent the REQ file and then nothing.... no file MB> sent back. I appologize for that Martin. I saw that happening. You had called during an upcoming event and didn't have time for the DL. I am very sorry. I am sending that file to your system right now. Let me open a window and do that...Done. Let me know if you received it ok. Look in your inbound. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1554 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 12/23/93 12:20a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Randy! RB> else is.. Think about it. My tosser detects and kills these dupe ring mes RB> so I don't really have a problem with them. Doesn't cost me any more or l RB> dollar-wise... Maybe an extra minute or so processing and a few more K of RB> space used temporarily. I have noticed the dupe loop problem on my end as well but my tosser does not setect and kill them because they come back changed bearing my origin line. I am using Wildmail. What are you using? Thanks. ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ... All true wisdom is found in taglines --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1555 To: ALL Date: 12/23/93 12:26a Subj: Merry Christmas! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! Di's Online Cafe & Company wishes you all and your's a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New year! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * "We are Family"...my brothers, sisters and me.... --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN LAKE Number: 1556 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/23/93 10:45a Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL} It's always worked for me too. But now that I'm tossing the entire JL} Filebone, it has a lot to be desired. It's a memory hog! JL} I have 620k available mem on the workstation that does the tics. JL} When I added the entire filebone the .CFG file grew to about 57k. JL} Well that locked it up tighter than a mouses ear. I had to edit the JL} .CFG down to 36k before it would run again. I guess a new version JL} is to be released soon though. WCFF will also work well in conjunction with RAID. You can use the entire FILEBONE.NA in the Raid.cfg file, and let RAID maintain the WCFF.CFG file. Raid was designed to work with TIC, but the only difference between the TIC.CFG and WCFF.CFG is the IN vs. INFILES verb. Raid updates the WCFF.CFG file and adds file areas only as needed, and my WCFF.CFG has yet to hit 15K. Latest version of RAID is 1.23 .... JL} I've had my rounds with them. But WM 3.1 is a pretty good product, JL} something us WC'ers should have had a long time ago. The New JL} WCFF should as good and a GREAT improvement over 3.51. I'm in the JL} process now of trying their UUCP. WildUUCP is working very well here, even tosses faster than WildMail. Its been able to handle every type of Newsgroup packet sent out by Boyd so far. Only one small glitch found with the message numbering when imported into WildCat, and OCR is aware of the oversight. Should be fixed soon. Dean * WCE 1.10/2034 * --- WM v3.10/91-0052 * Origin: The DataStream * Peoria,IL * 309-688-7713 H16/V.32b ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Number: 1557 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/23/93 7:25p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 22 Dec 93 20:41, John Kaufman wrote to All: JK> Hi - We just installed a 3ft KU here in Denver, and are wondering JK> what it takes to toss internet usegroup stuffs...Also - Where do JK> I get whatever it takes? Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out JK> to 1:3615/50 like it should, but the packets want to originate JK> from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I am using Gecho 1.00 and have JK> tried many things to try to get it to send from my JK> 1:104/675 address with no luck?!? AND - We are using Synchronet JK> v1c rev2 as a BBS software, and was wondering if anyone else out JK> there was using the same software with a dish for future JK> comparison of notes :) to process the .bag files you need fredgate/gigo/waffle or something that will handle that format. If you setup your system to show your return mail as being originating on 3615/51 nothing you submit will ever get to anyone that uses Planet connect as their only method of reception (read most everyone in this echo). Just process messages as you 104/675 address and send them to 3615/50 if 3615/50 has not already seen them. Sorry, no experience with Synchronet... Lance --- GoldED 2.42.G1125 * Origin: Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway Reno, NV (702) 322-9796 (1:213/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRUCE BAUGH Number: 1558 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/23/93 5:32p Subj: :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Once upon a midnight dreary (fa la la la la la la la la), while I pondered weak and weary (fa la la la la la la la la), I heard John address the topic of ":)" thusly: JK> Hi. Just testing. So...uh.....TEST. Please show all work. You have thirty minutes. Do not begin writing until the proctor gives you permission, or you will be dipped in honey, fed to a Bengal tiger, and presented to the world as the real Michael Jackson. Thank you for your timely cooperation. Bruce --- GoldED 2.42.G1218 * Origin: ARG Online, Portland, OR: Forward in all directions! (1:105/95) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1559 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/23/93 8:58p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: DO> Greg, I'm not sure what your plans are for Skymail, but I'd DO> like to make a suggestion. I dont have any plans for it.....I didnt write it :) DO> Today I got all but one file on the first pass... yeh, I'm DO> amazed too. Hmmmm, its rare that I dont get them all in one pass..... DO> If Skymail did a coorelation between FDN files and their DO> associate Tic files and allowed the received pairs to be DO> passed on to the processor, these could have been processed DO> out much earlier. Would that be something you might DO> consider adding as an option? Say; "tick_match" which only DO> moves something from the skydata\inbound to the hold area DO> and adds it to the index if the pair is complete. I dunno.....you might ask Ed Ivey..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1560 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/23/93 5:54p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GC> > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is > GC> > duped back to me the next day. > GC> You're joking, right Joe? :-) I hope you didn't take my response as a nasty. I actually thought you might be humourously confirming things were working well for you. My own kind of humour :-) > took etc, that I too like. It is 3 or 4 times in a row I get > the same stuff back is what I am refering to. I haven't had the problem so I wouldn't be able to be real sure what might be causing it. Is it possible that you or a downlink is still feeding echomail into the land lines as well as up to 3615/50? That would generate a dupe loop and depending on other factors could create a "revolving door" where the same msg just runs around in circles until someone notices and breaks its back. I've seen that a number of times in land line based closed topologies. Someone had one msg circling Western Canada for about two weeks before a hub noticed and blew a fuse :-) --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1561 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/23/93 9:15p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ->Hi Chuck, -> -> Say, do ya have one that will automaticaly update -> ->the tic control file??? -> -> Have you looked at RAID? That is a filemanager like AreaFix, but -> it's for filenets. -> -> Chuck -> We are using that. Burt Juda, the NC of 107 helped me set it up. But we don't seem to be able to get it to do that. Guess I'll have to read the "book"!! <:) Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1562 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/23/93 6:50p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it should, but Yes that is correct. > packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I am using > Gecho 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send > from my 1:104/675 You only use 3615/51 in your AKA in Gecho not in your front end or even your BBS. Make sure your origin line in Gecho is from 104/675 or you will cause a lot of problems. Hope this helps.. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1563 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/23/93 5:41p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> JD>I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, DO> JD>Boyd. I'll see if Finney in Chattanooga is having the same DO> JD>problem and if he is, we'll get Bell to look at your trunk group. DO>It's intermittant at this end. About 1 out of 5 zip right DO>through. The rest fail in various stages of timeout and DO>hangups. It's also interesting to note that I get quite a DO>few NO CONNECTs when trying to call him. DO>Analog calls work first time every time. Sounds more like a D'Bridge problem than an ISDN problem. No one else in the ISDN project seems to be having that kind of problem. Boyd will have to start using the ISDN node alot more starting next week when he is getting the Internet stuff. Maybe this frequent use will show us his problem areas. Maybe we should move this to to ISDN area. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1564 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/23/93 9:40p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>JD> When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? I've been JL>wait JL>JD> for you guys for months? JL>When you gona tell me how much equipment will cost me to test JL>it. I can loan you at least one unit for a couple of months for testing. How's that? Installation from Bell is FREE. What else can I do for you? --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1565 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/18/93 8:26a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH>Antonio Riveros wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RH> RH>AR> I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, RH> RH>But will it let you set up over 7,000 areas? This is what it will come dow RH>when Boyd feeds us the Newsgroups. And is it fast for the 666 (nice number RH>fido areas we now have? Is there a built in QWK mail function or a door th RH>will let you have this many areas? RHy>Once, a long time ago, I considered using Wildcat and the reason I Robert, We have also been using wildcat but Tossing has been way to slow over here. Like it takes just about a half a day to toss everything that Boyd sends down and that is on a 486-33 with enough cache to make even a turtle run faster. I'll be trying PCBoard next, Hope we'll be having better luck with that Program.. BTW Wildcat/Wildmail and sortpacket has been really messing up my message base on a completely random basis and sortpacket has not been to forgiving since it deletes all the packets it sorts and leaves you with something pretty unusable if it hangs. The only reply I got back from the programmers was that I should not run Wildmail under desqview. Sure tell me some more chrismas stories. TTYL Jacobo þ JFO þ 33mHz ain't fast enough! --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1566 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/22/93 10:01p Subj: Re: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John, > Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it > should, but the > packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I > am using Gecho > 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send from > my 1:104/675 > address with no luck?!? The way you have it setup should work OK, but if it bothers you, try this.. Go into Gsetup and take out the 1:3615/51 AKA, point Gecho's secure inbound path to your Sat. toss directory (it will then not check pkt destination) and it will bundle mail from you other Z1 address. If your setup will not allow you to point GE to the sat. as a secure inbound, go into the AKA matching and force your 1:104/675 address to be matched with 1:3615/50 John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1567 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/22/93 10:03p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, * In a message originally to Robert Hilgar, Tim Brown said: > RH>Tim wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > RH>S> I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days > RH>S> ago... and several days before that! > RH> That's odd Tim, I didn't see any of those. The ones I see are > RH> properly placed in the PCSTATS area. > RH> BTW, Your message was FROM: SYSOP so I had to look in the nodelist to > RH> find who you were. Does your "_echomail_" always say from Sysop? See my other message reguarding GE's setup, if you have any other problems let me know. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1568 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/22/93 10:07p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Glynn Littleton said: > Hello All! > Is anyone using PC without using a multitasker/network? My > net > just purchased the satellite equip and we're now in the > process > of setting up the computer. We're trying to run it on a > 386sx16 > using DV but it appears this is not going to work as PC is > continually writting to the hd giving FrontDoor no chance, > ie, > setting ticks 9 to 3 with FrontDoor in the foreground, it > takes > about 30 rings before FD will even answer the phone :( Hopefully you have the PC connected to a 16550 UART, lock the port for the PC machine, with the recieve buffer at 8k. And install a GOOD delayed write cache. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1569 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/23/93 9:14p Subj: 2400 baud connection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Craig Clark: TB> You don't have an extra dual laying around you want to lend TB> out do you? Not exactly, but I did just upgrade my old HST to a Dual Standard. A guy in Conneticut is selling the upgrades for $150. I know you can buy a no-name v.32bis for about that price, and even some of the brand names are well under $300 with sysop deals, but I'm sold on US Robotics. We've got two lines now, one with an US Robotics DS/PC and one with an Intel 14.4EX. We hope to add a third line next year, so I'm saving the converted HST (now a DS) for that one. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 1570 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/22/93 2:19p Subj: ECHOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, How about setting up some PC specific ECHOS one for each BBS type. These Echos would only be on the SAT. and would be BBS (software, TBBS, RA, PCBOARD etc.) specific. I'd like to exchange Ideas Tips and tricks with the other BBS's of the same gender. They could all have a PC prefix to set make them different from any on the backbone now ( PC_TBBS, PC_RA, PC_PCB, etc.) I'm sure it would lighten the message traffic here and help keep this Echo focused on PC things ! How about it, Pretty Please !!! Regards, Jerry --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1571 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/23/93 9:40p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/22/93> George Vandervort wrote: GV> GV> In a message to Joe Lyda <12-20-93 15:16> Jeff Olesen wrote: GV> JO> -> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped GV> JO> -> back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in GV> JO> -> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it GV> JO> -> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. GV> JO> -> Boyd got the netmail stuff fixed now lets find this dupe loop and GV> JO> -> fix it. P L E A S E GV> JO> GV> But the Fact that your receiving your Own Messages back via the Satellite GV> indicates that your sending then out ok, and the rest of the backbone sho GV> also be getting your message as original messages as intended. I fully agree that I should see my sent out mail return. But what I am seeing is it return several times. Not just my mail but in several echos it is being repeated several times, 3 and 4 times I see the same message with nothing changed. I am aware that my tosser can weed them out and not toss them or what ever elce it has capibility of doing. If I never saw my message return then I would be greately concerned and dig into my tosser to see what was wrong. There is a dupe loop which adds to processing time and all that good stuff. It may be one of my down links that is sending the stuff back to me and the AKA 3615/51 is preventing it from being sent back to 3615/50. I purge my message base daily of dupes, deleted messages, and over the limit messages. I suppose I can turn on the seen by lines and let them be tossed into my message base and see where the loop is coming from. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Don't blame me! I just wrote the thing! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1572 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 12/23/93 10:01p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/12/93> Tim Jacobs wrote: TJ> > BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert TJ> > BG> icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you TJ> > BG> TJ> > BG> THis is just what I heard now folks. TJ> > BG> TJ> > BG> ...Boyd TJ> > Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the TJ> > screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there TJ> > that can do it please fill me in. TJ> It works, Just have to make them smaller and join them. This I have found out, however, they stil have to be downloaded by the user to view them so why bother. I would like to see them converted to RIP format so no downloading would be necessary. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Hardware: The part you kick. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL COULOMBE Number: 1573 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 12/23/93 12:02a Subj: .tic files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Need some .tic files for the following... do you still have them? Can -> you put them on hold for me??? The TIC files corresponding to the exact same entries you listed were missing for me too!... I guess they missed the boat! --- * RoseMail 2.10*: Nanet > Synapse BBS - Gatineau, Que 819-561-4321 --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1574 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 12/23/93 11:26p Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to RN> a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls RN> the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when RN> done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then RN> finish's the mail tossing? To easy - just us the setboot command. Unfortunately while os/2 is operating you miss any packets that need retransmission. I use a cheap PC to receive and send the messages over to my OS/2 system. The PC was less then one of these fancy serial cards. Works flawlessly! P.S. you only need the 16550 for receiving. The 16450 does the trick for dsz to send it to the OS/2 system as long as the 16550 resides on the OS/2 receiving system. I run 38400 to the OS/2 system. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1575 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/23/93 11:37p Subj: Happy holidays Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on TL Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen FS> my users get replies and I am now beginning to feel left FS> out :-[ OK - Merry Christmas... --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED IVEY Number: 1576 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/23/93 10:32a Subj: SKYMAIL V1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GS> @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate > dirs > > Sounds like a winner... but does it "MOVE" files rather than copy > them > That has been one of my biggest challenges with PCUTIL. It copies > every > file first and adds them to check.idx, then goes back and deletes > them > requiring double the space on the drive just to _move_ them to a > different directory! I _move_ my incoming fido files to a hold It Copies & Deletes each file "One at a time". It does not copy all then delete all. Show me some TP code to do a "move" & I'll gladly implement it! Ed --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: Ed's Place - Gainesville, Ga. - 6+ Gigs of Fun! (1:3616/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1577 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 12/24/93 6:09p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: 1554 Read: NO Private: No -> I have noticed the dupe loop problem on my end as well but my tosser -> does not setect and kill them because they come back changed bearing -> my origin line. I am using Wildmail. What are you using? Thanks. In Wildmail's setup, there's an option for "Duplicate Messages"... This number represents the number of messages that Wildmail remembers when checking for dupes. The number you specify must be quasi-calculated. Let's say that you have 100 conferences getting a total of 1000 messages/day. If you want to check for dupes going back one week, set this number to 7000 (1000*7)... It's usually not necessary to save more than a week's worth of dupes. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1578 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 12/24/93 8:47p Subj: Re: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No JJ>John, JJ> > Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it JJ> > should, but the JJ> > packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I JJ> > am using Gecho JJ> > 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send from JJ> > my 1:104/675 JJ> > address with no luck?!? JJ>The way you have it setup should work OK, but if it bothers you, try JJ>this.. JJ>Go into Gsetup and take out the 1:3615/51 AKA, point Gecho's secure JJ>inbound path to your Sat. toss directory (it will then not check pkt JJ>destination) and it will bundle mail from you other Z1 address. JJ>If your setup will not allow you to point GE to the sat. as a secure JJ>inbound, go into the AKA matching and force your 1:104/675 address to JJ>be matched with 1:3615/50 JJ>John JJ>--- GEcho 1.02/beta+ JJ> * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) John, I have had this very same problem... the packets are fine... but when GEcho writes the Arcmail message it uses 3615/51 for the originating address! ...and 3615/51 isn't in the connections... nor my mailer... only in the GEcho AKA! I have posted numerous posts regarding this problem in the GECHO_HELP forum, mostly gone unanswered except one smarty chastising me for complaining about the lack of GEcho support! To date the only way I have been able to get around this problem is create a username ARCMAIL and send out the packet from ARCMAIL manually using the correct AKA and deleting the one that shows from ARCMAIL 1:3615/51. I will try your suggestions... will let you know the results. I was terribly happy with GEcho till I hooked up with PC. I would replace it in a minute... and would have already if the new InterEcho had hub support in it's current version. I know that there I _WILL_ get support. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1579 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/23/93 9:55p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Greg Shaffer writes: DO> I am wondering one thing. From your batch file examples you DO> actually load the network drivers, etc after skymail decides DO> there is something to move. GS>Thats due to a specific problem with my system.....it seems that GS>PTCCMAIN cannot find the dongle about 90% of the time when the GS>low level drivers for my network are loaded. Ok, makes sense and I also found I had to do the same thing here. With the network stuff loaded, anytime one of the workstations or server loaded and ran REDIR, PTCCMAIN would lock up even though the workstation wasn't logged on. Seems that anytime a name search is done on the network, every REDIR on the wire stops and sayes, "Huh? Not me!" just long enought to overrun the FIFO. GS>If you are having problems not getting them all after 5 or 6 GS>repeats then you need to rethink your dish setup.....I usually GS>have them all after the 1st run and it -never- takes over 2 GS>passes. So far the average has been 2 to 3 passes. After making the network changes, the error incidents have dropped greatly. I'm going to get one of my local TVRO people to help me fine tune the dish. Merry Christmas D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1580 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/23/93 10:11p Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , George Vandervort writes: GV>Here's something to add to your TO-DO list, next time your looking at the GV>Code for PTCCMAIN.EXE I'll add something to the wish list as well. :-) A means of manually forcing an errorlevel 100 exit for time when PTCCMAIN doesn't on it's own. Also an optional log file that makes a one line entry for each file received indicating dat/time/filename/size/status/errors, etc. It would sure help to debug this thing. If no incoming blocks are sensed for several minutes, the Uart is reset. ...like I said, wish list stuff. :-) Merry Christmas to all y'all. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1581 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/23/93 10:18p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Not sure if anyone else saw this today or not. If it was just me, then I've got problems. PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. It then proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever exiting. At about 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or there was an actual problem. He said he'd check and let me know. I never heard back but at 1600cst, it exited on it's own. I have thought it might have skipped exits before, but couldn't very it. This time I watched at least two cycles of the same files come down. Is the exit signal part of a file? A filename? Or some sort of control signal on the link? Is it easy to miss or possibly error out? Also, I've got about 26 orphaned Tic files left over. They were also listed on the UPLD.LST, so something happened between you and the uplink. Luckily, they were not anything I pass on so no great loss. Merry Christmas.... remember, that's a holiday. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1582 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 12/24/93 7:14a Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You're making it all the way to Ottawa, Ontario in the great white no Gee, thats not bad. Sault Ste. Marie to Ottawa, I guess it will go anywhere! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1583 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/24/93 11:54p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do ya have something or know of something that will ->add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? I personally use AllFix, but will try to work it up for Tick as well. Once I get some info on AllFix structures (?) then I will proceed. Merry Xmas Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1584 To: EMMETT PERDUE Date: 12/25/93 12:15a Subj: AREAFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->I hate to have to ask this question, but..... ->Has anyone figured out how to make AREAFIX or Remote Echo Control (REC) ->handle Planet Connect. Well, I wrote a program: PCAREAS.ZIP (FREQ: PCAREAS) that will add them to the AREAS.BBS if they're not there already. ->Here is the problem I have and I cannot seem to hit the correct config. ->I recieve the entire backbone from PC, 1:3615/51..I must set up my ->areas.bbs so that 1:3615/50 is who the replies go back to, ie: ->AREA_TAG 1:3615/50 (nodes i am feeding) What about a conference # or P in column 1? Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1585 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 12/24/93 12:36p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS> I have noticed the dupe loop problem on my end as well but my tosser DS> does not setect and kill them because they come back changed bearing DS> my origin line. I am using Wildmail. What are you using? Thanks. I'm using IMail 1.40G2. I'm feeding over 20 downlinks with it and haven't had any problems with dupes of any kind that I'm aware of. If you're interested, you can FReq the IMail package from me here at 1:381/70. Info follows: IM140G2.ZIP 572893 bytes Main IMail package IMUTL090.ZIP 91824 bytes IMail utilities I'm running on a USR 14.4 Sportster with V.32 so if you have V.32 you can get a high speed connect... Oh, and ignore the absence of the CM flag in this week's nodelist.. It's erroneous. You can Freq 24 hours a day! Good luck! --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * Anthony,NM * USR DS (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1586 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 12/24/93 1:39p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB> IMUTL090.ZIP 91824 bytes IMail utilities Sorry, forget about that file... It's not IMail utilities... It's InterMail utilities.. Just freq the other one. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * Anthony,NM * USR DS (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1587 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/24/93 9:50p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! 22 Dec 93, Fred Seibel writes to Chuck Warren: FS> Do ya have something or know of something that will FS> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? FS> Right now, the only way I know of is to do it by hand. FS> Anyone out there that can point me in the right direction??? FS> I'm presently using TIC and RAID. run: "RAID AUTOCREATE" before Tick gets ahold of the files. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1588 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/24/93 10:56a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday December 22 1993, John Kaufman writes to All: Hello John! JK> Hi - We just installed a 3ft KU here in Denver, and are wondering what it JK> takes to toss internet usegroup stuffs...Also - Where do I get whatever it JK> takes? fredgate is a good piece of software to gate the uucp message to fido-style message format. and you'll have to find your own gate back into the internet for your replies. OUr net has an amiga which has its software for that and for ibm class machines, waffle bbs can gate back in.(but man is it ever a bitch to set up) JK> Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it should, but JK> the packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? no. your originating replies should come from YOUR system address(104/645). you only need to have 3615/51 in your mail tosser as an aka so that the mail off the satellite will get tossed, but definately do NOT ADD 3615/51 to the seen by's or anything. JK> I am using JK> Gecho 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send from my JK> 1:104/675 address with no luck?!? i use squish for my mail tossing..cant help you there Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SENER Number: 1589 To: JOHN KAUFMAN Date: 12/24/93 12:47p Subj: Using Synchronet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Re: internet .BAG files BY: John Kaufman on Wed Dec 22 1993 11:41 pm > AND - We are using Synchronet v1c rev2 as a BBS software, and was wondering > if anyone else out there was using the same software with a dish for future > comparison of notes :) > Thanks - John Kaufman John, We are using Synchronet with the Planet Connect Dish, but using Freemail instead of Gecho. I use a completely different Freemail config files and a different Areas.BBS file when I toss the packets from the satellite. Its been working good since Oct. but I am only using about half the Fido message bases right now. Frank --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: Vegas PlayGround! * Las Vegas, NV * 702-386-7979 * (1:209/276) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1590 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/23/93 6:44p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> JL> I've had my rounds with them. But WM 3.1 is a pretty good prod -> JL> something us WC'ers should have had a long time ago. The New -> JL> WCFF should as good and a GREAT improvement over 3.51. I'm in -> JL> process now of trying their UUCP. -> -> I got MSI's UUCP and trying it. Will evaluate theirs as well but -> I am not goina get it for awhile. I will try both also. This will not be a snap decision. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK NASH Number: 1591 To: ALL Date: 12/22/93 11:40p Subj: PDN Planet Connected? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've heard that PDN will be going planet connect. Fact or fallacy? Thanks! Rick Nash --- WM v3.10/92-0440 * Origin: VALKYRIE BBS - (216) 674-0144 (1:2440/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1592 To: EMMETT PERDUE Date: 12/24/93 12:33a Subj: AREAFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday December 21 1993, Emmett Perdue writes to All: Hello Emmett! EP> I hate to have to ask this question, but..... asking questions is good! EP> Has anyone figured out how to make AREAFIX or Remote Echo Control (REC) EP> handle Planet Connect. I run REC. EP> Here is the problem I have and I cannot seem to hit the correct config. EP> I recieve the entire backbone from PC, 1:3615/51..I must set up my EP> areas.bbs so that 1:3615/50 is who the replies go back to, ie: well, to straighten that out first, You receive the mail from 1:3615/50. that mail is being sent to all of us with the aka of 3615/51 (us) Here are my pertenant lines for PC in REC: EchoHub 1:3615/50 F AreaFix -------- None EchoList D:\squish\Rec\lists\FidoNet.NA Fidonet_NA_Backbone_List 1:3615/50 F EchoList D:\squish\Rec\lists\FidoNo.NO Fidonet_NO_BackBone_List 1:3615/50 F AutoStart 1:3615/50 1:3615/51 ExemptCleanup 3615/50 NotifyExclude 1:3615/50 Boyd_Goodin everything else in REC is as normal..keep the same ideas in areafix and you should be ok EP> AREA_TAG 1:3615/50 (nodes i am feeding) EP> I can not get areafix or REC to understand that I need them to see EP> 1:3615/50 as MY feed (I think) and insert that address after the area EP> tag, but NOT say all messages are from 1:3615/50 and NOT try to send the EP> request on to 1:3615/50...but to just add them as pass thru areas. aah, do you have the following enabled? : Sort Tag FeedFirst if you do and its not working, comment it out (REC only of course i dont know about areafix) if you dont have it in, put it in. as for where an echo comes from..it realy doesnt matter...example planet_connect node1 node2 node3 node4 if you get a msg from node2, you send it to node1,3&4 if you get it from node1, you feed it to node2,3, &4 it doesnt matter what order they're in except for easy reading and who reads their areas.bbs?? planet_connect 3615/50 123/456 or planet_connect 123/456 3615/50 are effectively the same thing EP> I hope all this makes sense, and I know that someone, somewhere has EP> figured all of this out . it all works fine here except i run squish instead of freemail so I wouldnt know if that is the one loose bolt you're having. Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1593 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/24/93 12:46a Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday December 22 1993, George Vandervort writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello George! GV> No biggy.. but when activating the Watch mode, you can Pause the Watch GV> Mode, but it stays on the Screen when you try to Exit the watch mode.. it GV> would be a Nice Option to be able to re-display the Planet Connect GV> Screen when Exiting the Watch Mode.. instead of having to Exit PTCCMAIN.. personally, i prefer the mess of characters on the screen as opposed to the huge ansi letters that are slowly burning themselves in to my hercules monitor (thats all i'll waste money on for a computer that I cant use ) Merry Christmas Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1594 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/24/93 12:54a Subj: Forward to??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday December 23 1993, TIMOTHY WAGONER writes to ALL: Hello Boyd! after reading the following..though it certainly isnt your task to teach as well as sell satellite receivers, but It would seem a bit easier on the eyes if the new nets braving this new world had some sort of booklet or a few pages explaining what ROUTING was, or where to send the replies to. stuff like that. The same questions keep getting asked over and over..it seems like a common sense thing to give the people just signing on some of these answers first. TW> Well, being new to this all, I am unsure of how to do a couple of TW> things. I have been told a couple of times, but Still don't understand. TW> I need to know, do I need to set a Route to? I would much prefer that TW> all my outbound go out to one system, and I assume that should be TW> 3615/50 but not sure. TW> -!- GOMail v1.2 [92-0395] TW> ! Origin: Signal Butte BBS (1:3400/8) Merry Christmas Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1595 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 12/24/93 12:57a Subj: Forward to??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday December 23 1993, TIMOTHY WAGONER writes to ALL: Hello TIMOTHY! TW> I need to know, do I need to set a Route to? yes, of sorts TW> I would much prefer that TW> all my outbound go out to one system, and I assume that should be TW> 3615/50 but not sure. you must send all your replies for the backbone echos, to 1:3615/50 TW> I run Dbridge and I currently took out my POLL to 3615/50 as I see no TW> need to call everyday unless there is mail to deliver. certainly. are you feeding the mail on to the rest of your net as well? Our net seems to be generating 300k a day of replies. TW> Should I set TW> Dbridge to Hold ALL and then just POLL or is there a way for it to only TW> call when there is outgoing mail? normally a mailer WILL only want to call when there is mail to deliver TW> Any help would be appreciated. Would it be possible for me to freq. a TW> config export of Dbridge from someone? I dont run dbridge..sorry :) Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1596 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 12/24/93 1:00a Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Wednesday December 22 1993, John Mcconnell writes to All: Hello John! JM> hi im a new fido sysop and have had some some echos for over two weeks JM> now without a message one in them i talked to my nec about it and he JM> said it might be that some echos are not carried via planet connect if your NEC who is supposed to be coordinating your nets feed from PC should be able to give you such a list..thats a NEC's job after all Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 24 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1597 To: ALL Date: 12/24/93 5:00p Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From everyone here at Planet Systems Inc., we would like to wish each and everyone a very merry christmas and best wished for the upcoming new year! Now I am off to take a well deserved day off! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 1598 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/22/93 7:42p Subj: Pcboard files on the file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MP> @SUBJECT:PCBoard Files on the Filekbone -> Jens Mueller is pushing them that way now. Thanks for the info Jim. My phone bill is big enough without having to call out for PCBoard utilities and file updates. Mike --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1599 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/23/93 9:42p Subj: GEcho Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >->Or anything that will read in a fidonet.n? file, and autoadd those new area > s >->into GEcho.. > I have written one that does it for QuickBBS style > AREAS.BBS. Give > me some info on 'P'assthru's for GEcho and I'll add > the code for it! I'm not too familiar with the format of the areas.bbs file, however I exported one via GEcho, and it looks as tho the file doesn't contain any descriptions. GEcho can be setup to use the areas.bbs format, instead of it's own index, but then I'd loose the ability to have the descriptions for when other nodes do a %LIST. I don't know what the GEcho format is, however maybe someone will know in here, and can pass you the info. Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1600 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 12/24/93 12:57p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Lisa! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/22/93> Lisa Gronke wrote: LG> Planet Connect has to broadcast "new" messages that you uplink via landli LG> Tennessee. Else how would other satellite downlinks get them? LG> LG> Your tosser should recognize them as dupes and discard them or send them LG> the dupe area. It does do that and then I purge them and the next day or 2 they are back again. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Reality is for people who can't handle computers. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1601 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/24/93 1:09p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/23/93> Glenn Caleval wrote: GC> > GC> > Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is GC> > GC> > duped back to me the next day. GC> > GC> You're joking, right Joe? :-) GC> I hope you didn't take my response as a nasty. I actually thought you mig GC> humourously confirming things were working well for you. My own kind of h GC> :-) Life is too short to be upset at a little humor. Been gulty of it myself. GC> > took etc, that I too like. It is 3 or 4 times in a row I get GC> > the same stuff back is what I am refering to. GC> I haven't had the problem so I wouldn't be able to be real sure what migh GC> causing it. Is it possible that you or a downlink is still feeding echoma GC> into the land lines as well as up to 3615/50? That would generate a dupe GC> and depending on other factors could create a "revolving door" where the GC> msg just runs around in circles until someone notices and breaks its back GC> I've seen that a number of times in land line based closed topologies. So GC> had one msg circling Western Canada for about two weeks before a hub noti GC> and blew a fuse :-) Well I have turned on my dupe being saved to messages and will see where it is coming in from. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Sometimes you just have to say 'What the heck' --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1602 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/24/93 3:27p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/23/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> JL>JD> When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? I've be JD> JL>wait JD> JL>JD> for you guys for months? JD> JL>When you gona tell me how much equipment will cost me to test JD> JL>it. JD> I can loan you at least one unit for a couple of months for testing. How JD> that? Installation from Bell is FREE. What else can I do for you? I will call monday and get it hooked up. Will be getting in touch soon. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Taglines that make you go "Hmmm..." --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1603 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/24/93 9:03p Subj: SupraFax Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have no idea on this one. I reconnected the v32 to see if I could > tweak it, and made a run to PC to observe and it connected fine without > me changing anything. Maybe a case of unusual line conditions. Know what you mean. I got a guy here who can connect with ANYBODY at 14.4 but on either line of mine, he can only get 9600. (An attempt at 14.4 ends up in a no carrier) Before the "new" phone lines, he was the only one who COULD get 14.4 with me. Go figure... See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1604 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/24/93 9:05p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is anyone using PC without using a multitasker/network? My net > just purchased the satellite equip and we're now in the process > of setting up the computer. We're trying to run it on a 386sx16 Yes I flip flop back and forth between DV and dos. Lately it's been running solely under DOS. No problems. I run BNU to lock the port at 19.2 then call the PCSKY.BAT file. No exits out except to process mail/files/uucp See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1605 To: DANA HUGGARD Date: 12/24/93 9:10p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > give up the .QWK and FidoNet for newsgroups. I already get newsgroups > By what method.. or what software do you use for your UUCP Todd? I did it the easy way. I installed Waffle as a door to my bbs. Works just fine multinode (with some batch tricks of course) and is fairly fast. It handles all the inbound mail with only one call to PKUNZIP. It's not the fastest mail tosser in the world so I expect to lose some of my system's speed in the mail processing, but it does work. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1606 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/24/93 9:15p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I can loan you at least one unit for a couple of months for testing. What's one cost? > How's that? Installation from Bell is FREE. What else can I do for Only in the city though, right? That wouldn't apply if I were to live...oh just by random choice...out in the country? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1607 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/16/93 1:22p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing 40 msgs/sec. RH> Well Maximus isn't the prettiest RH> BBS around, but it seems to fit our needs. Maximus can be as pretty as you customize it to be; it's all in the mecca scripts. RH> I just hate spending money on software RH> when it can be used for hardware. Yeah, there's no such thing as too much RAM. RH> Anyone else care to enlighten us RH> as to what problems or successes you are coming accross RH> with your current configuration? We (both Patty and myself) are having problems with AreaFix running across Novell, and no version of Binkley will run under Novell's VLM requester. Currently I'm using SEAL to replace AreaFix and Raid, but it's not working out too well. The PC software runs great under the VLMs, as it did under NetX and with all the recent versions of DOS tired here. Maximus handles the large number of file and message areas carried here, although we do need to break them down into groups for ease of reading. RH> I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to RH> Searchlight and now to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Don't know about the views part, but Patty dropped RBBS because of internal problems with the development groups, and Searchlight because of it's technical limitations. I was running Max when we met, and that helped convince her to give it a try. (She was already looking at it ... ) For now Maximus suits our needs, but that doesn't mean it will tomorrow. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1608 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/24/93 7:07a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Sunday December 19 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Russell Naber: DS> In a msg on > Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? DS> Doesn't work. They said that they were more interested in making a version DS> for unix rather then os/2. Seems like they have never heard of the gnu DS> compilers? Since most unix stuff has been converted to os/2 it should not DS> take long after they do the unix port to come up with an os/2 port. I DS> would do it for them, but I guess that I will just have to figure it out DS> on my own. DS> -+- msgedsq/2 2.1 DS> + Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then finish's the mail tossing? Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1609 To: JD BROWN Date: 12/24/93 7:07a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JD! Sunday December 19 1993, JD Brown writes to Russell Naber: JB> CIS: 72027,2432 Internet: JD_Brown@f3622.n1.z1.fidonet.org IBM LINK @ JB> DEV0580 RN>> Hello All! RN>> RN>> RN>> Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? RN>> RN>> If so can you netmail me with your phone number, I wish to contact RN>> somebody that can provide me with some before you buy advice. JB> Nope. Won't work under OS/2. OS/2 won't allow the dongle to speak to the JB> DOS session. JB> ___ JB> X KWQ/2 1.2a X Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who JB> smoked po JB> -+- Maximus/2 2.01wb JB> + Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1) Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then finish's the mail tossing? Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1610 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 9:45a Subj: Hyperdisk parms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RHbut that didn't seem to make a bit of difference even with buffers set at a low 10. I guess I need to read the Hyperdisk doc's! If I'm not mistaken. Hyperdisk docs tell you to set the BUFFERS=1 Yes, ONE. * 1st 1.10 #310s * Chernobyl used Windows --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1611 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 9:45a Subj: Dongle vs. software locks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH I _HATE_ that stupid dongle. It makes me leave the printer on or unplugged. Thats not good. I am no programmer, so I don't know, but can't the Planet Connect software handle this internally like the copy of TVAGENT we are supposed to get does? Time crippling is done all the time with other software. Then, maybe it would work under OS/2 and make a lot of us happy! I would be a nice X-Mas gift for us subscribers! ;-) I prefer the hardware dongle over the Everlock software scheme. The copy protection/time lock on the software lock is a real pain. It creates hidden, system, read-only files on your hard disk. If your disk gets scrambled or needs replaced you can have spare drives and computers all around you and they are worthless until you can get in contact with someone at Planet Connect to reinitialize the thing. Until then, your mail connection from the sky is dead! With the hardware dongle I'm free to mix and match hardware to my heart's content without any ill effects or Planet Connect assistance. I can also defrag my drive without those hidden, system, read-only files being stuck where they were originally placed by the Everlock "software only" install. * 1st 1.10 #310s * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high explosives --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1612 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/24/93 4:06p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to GEORGE VANDERVORT <12-23-93 21:40> JOE LYDA wrote: JL> I fully agree that I should see my sent out mail return. But JL> what I am seeing is it return several times. Not just my mail JL> but in several echos it is being repeated several times, 3 and 4 JL> times I see the same message with nothing changed. I am aware JL> that my tosser can weed them out and not toss them or what ever JL> elce it has capibility of doing. Ahhh.. then possibly your mail tosser is leaving a copy of the Dups lying around, to be tossed again when the next bundle of mail is processed? I had that happen to me a couple of years ago while Beta-testing a buggy mail processor for an earlier version of QUICKBBS... --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1613 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/24/93 4:15p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to TIM JACOBS <12-23-93 22:01> JOE LYDA wrote: JL> TJ> > BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and JL> TJ> > BG> Convert icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon JL> JL> This I have found out, however, they stil have to be downloaded JL> by the user to view them so why bother. I would like to see them JL> converted to RIP format so no downloading would be necessary. JL> JL> Joe JL> JL> * WCE 1.10/2107 * Hardware: The part you kick. JL> JL> --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] JL> * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) I have a file available for Freq or Download called PCX2ICON.EXE (Self-extracting) that converts *.PCX file to RIP ICONS... Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1614 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 4:42p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Chuck Warren: -> -> FS> Do ya have something or know of something that will -> FS> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? -> FS> Right now, the only way I know of is to do it by hand. -> -> If you had Squish areas (HINT), you would be able to use SEAL. With W -> I don't know. -> Running Squish on the mail system. Have a server and 4 work stations set up. WC is on 107/600. Squish is on 107/33 (13/24) Have PC comming down into a 286. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1615 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/25/93 10:43p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RM> How many FILES do you have in CONFIG.SYS? Try 60 and a good RM> cache and delayed writes if your system can handle them. (I RM> run SmartDrive here!) Also, run your passthru areas Squish RM> style and if you have the memory put them on a ramdisk. RM> This end just took 27 minutes to toss/scan this morning's RM> big drop plus another 10 minutes to archive the outbound RM> stuff. The number of dupes you track plays a major role, RM> too. I went from 1000 per area to 2 and dropped about 10 RM> msgs/sec. And the more downlinks you have, the better the RM> stats get. I have just tried what you and the others suggested. I must say, the results ARE incredible! Thanks! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1616 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/25/93 10:46p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: DO> Whether you're right or not, it's one hell of a lot more DO> than I knew before. DO> THANKS! You are very welcome! Happy Holidays Dave!!!! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1617 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 12/25/93 10:48p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Diane Summers wrote in a message to Randy Blackmond: DS> I have noticed the dupe loop problem on my end as well but DS> my tosser does not setect and kill them because they come DS> back changed bearing my origin line. I am using Wildmail. DS> What are you using? Thanks. Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. Isn't there something else that you Wildcat SysAdmin's can use? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1618 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 12/25/93 10:50p Subj: Merry Christmas! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Diane Summers wrote in a message to All: DS> Hi All! DS> Di's Online Cafe & Company wishes you all and your's a very DS> Merry Christmas and a Happy New year! :) Thanks Di, and the same to you and every one else in this marvelous land of Fidonet! Regards, Robert & Celeste --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1619 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 12/25/93 10:53p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Lance Taylor-Warren wrote in a message to John Kaufman: LT> to process the .bag files you need fredgate/gigo/waffle or What is GIGO? (I know it processes USENET stuff you smart alecks reading this when it isn't addressed to you ) I mean, how does it differ from FRED or Waffle? Can we FREQ it from you? If so, what speed and what file size? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1620 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/25/93 10:56p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: JO> We have also been using wildcat but Tossing has been way to JO> slow over here. Like it takes just about a half a day to JO> toss everything that Boyd sends down and that is on a 486-33 JO> with enough cache to make even a turtle run faster. But does your cache have staged writes enabled? Are you unzipping to a RAM drive? These are the things that have been suggested to me, and when I actually sat down and read the doc's for HyperDisk, well, my tossing of the backbone is at about 20-25 minutes. If this isn't the problem, perhaps it is the tosser you are using is a piece of !@$#&. JO> I'll be trying PCBoard next, Hope we'll be having better JO> luck with that Program.. I'm not familiar with PCB to FIDO tossing except that I know the program FIDOPCB or is it PCBFIDO is useless if you have more than 1 FTN. Try putting a Zone 83 (OS2NET) in there and watch it chock to death! JO> BTW Wildcat/Wildmail and sortpacket has been really messing JO> up my message base on a completely random basis and JO> sortpacket has not been to forgiving since it deletes all JO> the packets it sorts and leaves you with something pretty JO> unusable if it hangs. The only reply I got back from the JO> programmers was that I should not run Wildmail under JO> desqview. Sure tell me some more chrismas stories. Tell me, what good is a program that doesn't run under Desqview? It is something all us DOS users kinda need. Wildcat, from the people who bring us Qmodem. Not many of us use Qmodem either. I know quite a bit of local Wildcatters that have various problems. Perhaps you should ask Fred Seibel about these things, he uses Wildcat. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1621 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 12/25/93 11:11p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No John Johnson wrote in a message to Glynn Littleton: JJ> Hopefully you have the PC connected to a 16550 UART, lock JJ> the port for the PC machine, with the recieve buffer at 8k. JJ> And install a GOOD delayed write cache. Why do you suggest the 8K receive? T=8192 is not needed. Am I wrong? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1622 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/25/93 11:13p Subj: ECHOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jerry Russell wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: JR> Boyd, How about setting up some PC specific ECHOS one for JR> each BBS type. These Echos would only be on the SAT. and [personal opinion] But I like having us all here. I have picked up many things from everyone, using various BBS software. I have learned quite a bit from SysAdmin's of RA, ProBoard, Max, Wildcat as well as others. Besides, let Boyd and company worry about the other headaches they have. [end of personal opinion] Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1623 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/25/93 11:18p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOE LYDA wrote in a message to GEORGE VANDERVORT: JL> There is a dupe loop which adds to processing time and all JL> that good stuff. It may be one of my down links that is Boy would I feel like a real ASS if this due loop was from me. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1624 To: RICK NASH Date: 12/25/93 11:20p Subj: PDN Planet Connected? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rick Nash wrote in a message to All: RN> I've heard that PDN will be going planet connect. Fact or RN> fallacy? Thanks! RN> Rick Nash Not in the Filbone for Planet Connect as of 12-24-1993 yet. I think Janis is trying to get it together though. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1625 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/25/93 11:23p Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Kavanagh wrote in a message to George Vandervort: KK> personally, i prefer the mess of characters on the screen as KK> opposed to the huge ansi letters that are slowly burning KK> themselves in to my hercules monitor (thats all i'll waste KK> money on for a computer that I cant use ) Do you think that those ascii characters can't burn in? I don't like the ASCII or the ANSI logo, so I use a screen blanker. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1626 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/25/93 11:26p Subj: Forward to??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ken Kavanagh wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TW> Well, being new to this all, I am unsure of how to do a couple of TW> things. I have been told a couple of times, but Still don't understand. TW> I need to know, do I need to set a Route to? I would much prefer that TW> all my outbound go out to one system, and I assume that should be TW> 3615/50 but not sure. This question is bringing tears to my eyes. Doesn't he know he should route all mail to 153/7070? Ha! Could you imagine what you would think then? I agree with you Ken, we need to post a FAQ here. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1627 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/25/93 11:33p Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to All: BG> best wished for the upcoming new year! Now I am off to BG> take a well deserved day off! I didn't know you were able to take days off. I am sure you will catch hell for doing that! Happy and Safe Holidays Boyd! Thanks for an excellant service!! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1628 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/25/93 11:36p Subj: Hyperdisk parms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Frank Salerno wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> If I'm not mistaken. Hyperdisk docs tell you to set the FS> BUFFERS=1 Yes, ONE. Line 777 of speedkit.txt says set BUFFERS=10. At any rate, I have it all working GREAT now. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1629 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/25/93 11:38p Subj: Dongle vs. software locks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Frank Salerno wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> from the sky is dead! With the hardware dongle I'm FS> free to mix and match hardware to my heart's content without FS> any ill effects or Planet Connect assistance. I can also FS> defrag my drive without those hidden, system, read-only FS> files being stuck where they were originally placed by the FS> Everlock "software only" install. That makes sense Frank. I just wish we could run OS/2 with it. I suppose tomorrow, I will by another computer for PC at the computer show. That sucks! And it will happen as always, I will buy a computer, a network card, etc., and a week later someone will have a way of running it under OS/2! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1630 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/25/93 10:23p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>JD> JL>JD> When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? I've JL>I will call monday and get it hooked up. Will be getting in JL>touch soon. Ok, call me voice at 646-2884 if you need my help with configuration. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1631 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/25/93 10:25p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> > I can loan you at least one unit for a couple of months for testing. TL>What's one cost? About $500 for the 57600 units. TL> > How's that? Installation from Bell is FREE. What else can I do for TL>Only in the city though, right? That wouldn't apply if I TL>were to live...oh just by random choice...out in the country? In Tennessee, install of ISDN is free everywhere in the state for the 1st year. The catch is that your central office needs to be ISDN-equipped and about 60% of ours in TN are now with about 90% by next year. We have a region18 echo called ISDN that you might want to pick up. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1632 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/25/93 6:11a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Thursday December 23 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Russell Naber: DS> In a msg on > Okay what about creating a event batch file the shutsdown os/2 to RN>> a dual boot /dos and upon booting in dos the autoexec calls RN>> the batch file to run the software for the satelite, when RN>> done it beboots into os2, checks a startup .cmd and then RN>> finish's the mail tossing? DS> To easy - just us the setboot command. Setboot command? DS> Unfortunately while os/2 is DS> operating you miss any packets that need retransmission. what about staying in dos via dual boot till all errors are gone on receiving packets. DS> I use a cheap PC DS> to receive and send the messages over to my OS/2 system. The PC was less DS> then one of these fancy serial cards. Works flawlessly! P.S. you only need DS> the 16550 for receiving. The 16450 does the trick for dsz to send it to DS> the OS/2 system as long as the 16550 resides on the OS/2 receiving system. DS> I run 38400 to the OS/2 system. Yep another machine would solve the problem, although not a solution right now. As I work with os/2 more and more, I am less anxious to consider the possibility of going back to plain dos/windows. I wish to come up with a solution to aquire the satelite dish and software, run it and then return to os/2 since the software does not work with the dongle. Boyd needs to consider removing the dongle option, and coming up with some other type of protection. Heck just tonight finally switched over to enhanced mode on the adaptec controller card, What a difference on disk access speeds. Things just zoom along. If I can just figure out how to shut down running programs/session in os/2 via batch file, then set a flag file and reboot into dual boot/dos run a batch file if flag present and go get the mail off the satelite and reboot into os/2, this would solve the problem. I don't mind the system (bbs,mailer) being down for a hour or two to get the mail. (especially considering the volume that I would be able to get, and phone cost savings.) Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1633 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/25/93 7:20a Subj: Dongle vs. software locks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Frank! Friday December 24 1993, Frank Salerno writes to Robert Hilgar: FS> RH I _HATE_ that stupid dongle. It makes me leave the printer on or FS> unplugged. Thats not good. I am no programmer, so I don't know, FS> but can't the Planet Connect software handle this internally FS> Then, maybe it would work under OS/2 and make a lot of us happy! FS> I would be a nice X-Mas gift for us subscribers! ;-) I agree with out Frank, Boyd if you watching, is there any way to come up with some other protection scheme that dont' cripple other operating systems? Russell --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1634 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 3:29a Subj: Dupes ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ok, first, I am NOT talking about my OWN messages coming back. Is it just my system, or is there a SERIOUS dupe loop happening. I just read through about 120 messages, of which 60 were original and the others dupes. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1635 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 3:30a Subj: Stats Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In the Planet Connect Statistics echo, could someone tell me what the ECHO IN coloum and the NET IN Coloum represents? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1636 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 3:33a Subj: ACONFIG.SKY and MAKECFG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know if there is a problem with running several different config files for ACONFIG.SKY and then switching them around on an errorlevel dropout and running MAKECFG and then going back into PTCCMAIN? All of which is being done from a batch file. I seem to have it in my head that I read a message in here that someone said the system needed to be rebooted when MAKECFG was run, and I want to find out for sure. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1637 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/24/93 2:47p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM> tired here. Maximus handles the large number of file RM> and message areas carried here, although we do need to RM> break them down into groups for ease of reading. How did you break it up into groups? I'd like to do something like for users here to make life easier. -=- Craig. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 1638 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/23/93 11:04p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > using DV but it appears this is not going to work as PC is > continually writting to the hd giving FrontDoor no chance, ie, > setting ticks 9 to 3 with FrontDoor in the foreground, it takes > about 30 rings before FD will even answer the phone :( > Any suggestions? Set your ticks to 3:3 and see what happens. <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1639 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/25/93 6:44p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/24/93> George Vandervort wrote: GV> GV> In a message to TIM JACOBS <12-23-93 22:01> JOE LYDA wrote: GV> JL> TJ> > BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and GV> JL> TJ> > BG> Convert icon right? I also heard that you can make that i GV> JL> GV> JL> This I have found out, however, they stil have to be downloaded GV> JL> by the user to view them so why bother. I would like to see them GV> JL> converted to RIP format so no downloading would be necessary. GV> JL> GV> JL> Joe GV> JL> GV> JL> * WCE 1.10/2107 * Hardware: The part you kick. GV> JL> GV> JL> --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] GV> JL> * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) GV> I have a file available for Freq or Download called PCX2ICON.EXE GV> (Self-extracting) that converts *.PCX file to RIP ICONS... GV> Regards, GV> George Vandervort I already have that file and it will do it, however the user has to download the icons to view them so I see no improvement there ether. I guess it will be sometime before someone figures out how to convert .pcx to .rip. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Aw Honey... just one more message, honest... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1640 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/25/93 6:30p Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > each and everyone a very merry christmas and best wished for the > upcoming new year! Now I am off to take a well deserved day off! Hey hey hey....was that in the contract??? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1641 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/25/93 6:39p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > fredgate is a good piece of software to gate the uucp message to fido- > style > message format. and you'll have to find your own gate back into the > internet for your replies. OUr net has an amiga which has its software > for that and for ibm class machines, waffle bbs can gate back in.(but > man is it ever a bitch to set up) I'm using Waffle (or at least in the process of setting it up). It's taking all the mail in right now. I'm just working on a way to get it batching out to nodes below me. Check this out if you don't have a return feed yet. I called this guy and asked him a few questions: Spectrum Online Systems, Inc. Attn: Jim Welch 2860 South Circle Drive, Ste 2202 Colorado Springs, CO 80906 719-576-6845 Basically, for $1.00 per hour (I don't think there are any other hidden costs, but ask him and he'll give you the gammut of specs) he'll give you a return feed into the Internet. I don't know if this offer is extended to just anybody. You still have to pay the long distance charges to connect with him I think, but unless you plan on having a meg of mail a day, I don't see how that price can be beat anywhere. He also has pricing plans available for full InterNet connectivity. Give him a call Monday and ask him a few questions. I *AM* open to suggestions. Let me know of alternatives. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1642 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/15/93 4:36p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? Ervin, Yes, it's something like that, I just haven't gotten around to attempting to configure things that way yet. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1643 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/22/93 5:12p Subj: SUPRAFAX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn, Dunno what version your ROM's are in that Supra, but if it's fairly old, you should contact Supra to see about later ones. Reports I have say that the new ROM's make the Supra pretty darn compatible. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1644 To: DEAN LAKE Date: 12/25/93 6:17p Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> JL} It's always worked for me too. But now that I'm tossing the e -> JL} Filebone, it has a lot to be desired. It's a memory hog! -> JL} I have 620k available mem on the workstation that does the ti -> JL} When I added the entire filebone the .CFG file grew to about -> JL} Well that locked it up tighter than a mouses ear. I had to ed -> JL} .CFG down to 36k before it would run again. I guess a new ve -> JL} is to be released soon though. -> -> WCFF will also work well in conjunction with RAID. You can use -> the entire FILEBONE.NA in the Raid.cfg file, and let RAID -> maintain the WCFF.CFG file. Raid was designed to work with TIC, -> but the only difference between the TIC.CFG and WCFF.CFG is the -> IN vs. INFILES verb. Raid updates the WCFF.CFG file and adds -> file areas only as needed, and my WCFF.CFG has yet to hit 15K. -> Latest version of RAID is 1.23 .... I'm using Raid 1.23 now. How do you add ALL the files off the bird to WC! with a 15k .CFG file? I'd like to see your setup. Could you zip up your .CFGs and let me take a peek? John... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1645 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/25/93 6:39p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> We have also been using wildcat but Tossing has been way to slow over -> here. Like it takes just about a half a day to toss everything that B -> sends down and that is on a 486-33 with enough cache to make even a -> turtle run faster. This doesn't sound right. I toss everything off the bird with a 386/40 in a LAN in 40 mins with WC. I think you need some tweeking. -> BTW Wildcat/Wildmail and sortpacket has been really messing up my -> message base on a completely random basis and sortpacket has not been -> forgiving since it deletes all the packets it sorts and leaves you wi -> something pretty unusable if it hangs. The only reply I got back from -> the programmers was that I should not run Wildmail under desqview. Su -> tell me some more chrismas stories. I do everything you just mentioned on a LAN *AND* under DV without any problems. Don't run WM under DV? Absurd! I find it very hard to beleive Joe or Derek told you that. WC\WM and Sortpacket messing up your databases? I haven't had a corruption in a year and that was my fault. WCrepair fixed it in 5 minutes. Sorry about your tough luck, but I wouldn't be so quick to blame the software. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1646 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/25/93 7:05p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Not sure if anyone else saw this today or not. If it was just me, th -> got problems. -> -> PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. It -> proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever exiting. At -> 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or there was an actual probl -> said he'd check and let me know. I never heard back but at 1600cst, -> on it's own. I have thought it might have skipped exits before, but -> very it. This time I watched at least two cycles of the same files c I got the same thing, several times before too! Just check your Skymail or PCutil log to see when it was last written to check exit times. -> Also, I've got about 26 orphaned Tic files left over. They were also -> the UPLD.LST, so something happened between you and the uplink. Luck -> were not anything I pass on so no great loss. Last week I got about 20 files and no tics, this week I got 20 tics and no files. This is becoming a pain. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1647 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/25/93 7:20p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Do ya have something or know of something that will -> ->add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? -> -> I personally use AllFix, but will try to work it up for Tick as wel -> Once I get some info on AllFix structures (?) then I will proceed. Chuck, I assume you use WCFILE with allfix to add desc's into WC? I've seen Allfix in use but haven't set it up. I'm not sure I want to wait for v4.0 of WCFF to come out. Got a WCFILE/ALLFIX file for freq? Tried your pcareas file, works nice. How tough would it be to be able to delete an area that isn't in Fidonet.na or whatever, that 1:3615/50 is the uplink to? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1648 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/25/93 7:32p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> LG> Planet Connect has to broadcast "new" messages that you uplink vi -> LG> Tennessee. Else how would other satellite downlinks get them? -> LG> Your tosser should recognize them as dupes and discard them or se -> LG> the dupe area. -> -> It does do that and then I purge them and the next day or 2 they -> are back again. Joe, I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the same problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to at least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how many come through before mine comes back). Does Gomail have a select number of messages to check for dupes, can you increase it? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG VANDERGRIFF Number: 1649 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/25/93 1:38p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 23 22:18 93, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.2; wrote the following words of wisdom : DO> Not sure if anyone else saw this today or not. If it was DO> just me, then I've got problems. I noticed the same thing. DO> PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this DO> morning. It then proceeded to go though at least two DO> cycles without ever exiting. At about 1500cst I called Jim DO> to see if it was me or there was an actual problem. He DO> said he'd check and let me know. I never heard back but at DO> 1600cst, it exited on it's own. I have thought it might DO> have skipped exits before, but couldn't very it. This time DO> I watched at least two cycles of the same files come down. I have wondered about this also, I have noticed it go through 2 to 3 repeats of same files and not exit and wondered if it was my setup or what. DO> Is the exit signal part of a file? A filename? Or some DO> sort of control signal on the link? Is it easy to miss or DO> possibly error out? Would greatley help in reducing the amount of stuff to process at a time if it worked always. Were trying to set this up on a 386/sx16 and it's a pain waiting on it to error out to make SURE it's doing like it should. DO> Merry Christmas.... remember, that's a holiday. :-) And A HAPPY NEW YEAR! Greg Vandergriff [ Team OS/2 ] --- Msgedsq/2 2.2e * Origin: "I heard them talking on The Coconut Telegraph" (1:3628/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLYNN LITTLETON Number: 1650 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 12/25/93 7:47p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Hello John! 22 Dec 93 22:07, John Johnson wrote to Glynn Littleton: JJ> Hopefully you have the PC connected to a 16550 UART, lock the port for the JJ> PC machine, with the recieve buffer at 8k. And install a GOOD delayed JJ> write cache. Yes, we're using the 16550 UART with locked port but not the diskcache. Will give it a try. Thanks, Glynn --- GEcho386 1.01+ * Origin: Coastal Carolina Hub (1:3628/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Number: 1651 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/26/93 9:32a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! 25 Dec 93 22:53, Robert Hilgar wrote to Lance Taylor-Warren: LT>> to process the .bag files you need fredgate/gigo/waffle or RH> What is GIGO? (I know it processes USENET stuff you smart alecks RH> reading this when it isn't addressed to you ) I mean, how does RH> it differ from FRED or Waffle? Can we FREQ it from you? If so, RH> what speed and what file size? i've got GIGO available for download, although I can't run it as it requires a 386 and I'm running on a 286 at the moment. GIGO looks like it could be a nive little program. It's is very similar to Fredgate but takes the addressing of mail (email) a bit differently and in some cases better. GIGO1220.ZIP 400K I'm very happy with Fredgate and as they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! :) Lance --- GoldED 2.42.G1125 * Origin: Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway Reno, NV (702) 322-9796 (1:213/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RENFREW CCBBS Number: 1652 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 8:14a Subj: PTCCMAIN.EXE expire date Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My subscription is expired as of the end of December. My PTCCMAIN.EXE does NOT beep at me 10 days before expiry date. IT JUST DOESN'T ACCEPT INCOMING DATA UNLESS THE SYSTEM IS TURNED OFF AND THEN BACK ON. I've read some having this same problem. Could there be any connection with the program's failure to perform and it's failure on my system? Any suggestions? I've been unable to contact Boyd due to the holidays........ bye..... Bob Mortimer Renfrew Computer Club & BBS Renfrew, On Canada 1:256/114 61-31-09 ->RENFREW (613) 432 9552 V32bis --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1653 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/26/93 12:23p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/25/93> Robert Hilgar wrote: RH> JOE LYDA wrote in a message to GEORGE VANDERVORT: RH> JL> There is a dupe loop which adds to processing time and all RH> JL> that good stuff. It may be one of my down links that is RH> Boy would I feel like a real ASS if this due loop was from me. Know what you mean but is not, it has been found here, at least part of it. One of my down links from this hub picks up after all my dupe purging and deleted mail is purged, and is somehow retossing everything he gets back to me under a different ID and it is not going back to PC but is showing up in my Message areas. I have looked at his setup and see nothing wrong. He receives from 1:3622/1000 and it tosses it back to 1:3622/1000 and we have began a tweek to find out why. Beats me. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * He said "ENQ?". "NAK!", she replied. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1654 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/26/93 12:29p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/25/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> JL>JD> JL>JD> When are you guys going to get ISDN tested in Winchester? JD> JL>I will call monday and get it hooked up. Will be getting in JD> JL>touch soon. JD> Ok, call me voice at 646-2884 if you need my help with configuration. I probally will need help. Thanks Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1655 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/26/93 12:30p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/25/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> -> LG> Planet Connect has to broadcast "new" messages that you uplink vi JL> -> LG> Tennessee. Else how would other satellite downlinks get them? JL> -> LG> Your tosser should recognize them as dupes and discard them or se JL> -> LG> the dupe area. JL> -> JL> -> It does do that and then I purge them and the next day or 2 they JL> -> are back again. JL> Joe, JL> I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the same JL> problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to at JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how many JL> come through before mine comes back). Does Gomail have a select JL> number of messages to check for dupes, can you increase it? Yes it does and I have it set at 20000 but will increase it. I did find the bigger one here, one of my downlinks, and am working at getting it corrected. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * ÛÛ²²±±°° IN STEREO WHERE AVAILABLE °°±±²²ÛÛ --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1656 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/26/93 2:03p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> run: "RAID AUTOCREATE" before Tick gets ahold of the files. > > We are doing that. Something seems to be amiss!!! do you have 1:3615/50 as a node that is allow to create new areas? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1657 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 2:21p Subj: Stats Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In the Planet Connect Statistics echo, could someone tell me what > the ECHO IN coloum and the NET IN Coloum represents? Echo in is how many echomail messages (in various conferences) you sent to him. The Net in is how many netmail messages there were with that. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1658 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 2:22p Subj: ACONFIG.SKY and MAKECFG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I seem to have it in my head that I read a message in here that > someone said the system needed to be rebooted when MAKECFG was run, and > I want to find out for sure. Not rebooted as in reboot the machine, but rebooted in that you need to exit PC and then fire it back up (so that it reads in the new config) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1659 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 2:11p Subj: ACONFIG.SKY and MAKECFG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to All <12/25/93> Tim Lajoie wrote: TL> Does anyone know if there is a problem with running several TL> different config files for ACONFIG.SKY and then switching them around on TL> an errorlevel dropout and running MAKECFG and then going back into TL> PTCCMAIN? All of which is being done from a batch file. TL> I seem to have it in my head that I read a message in here that TL> someone said the system needed to be rebooted when MAKECFG was run, and TL> I want to find out for sure. Tim the last time I reconfigured aconfig.sky and rum makecfg I did not reboot and all changes took effect as soon as ptccmain was run. I can see no reason why this could not take place as you suggest. But I gota ask why do you want to do this? Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Incontinence hotline...Can you hold please? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1660 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/26/93 1:32p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' John In a message to Joe Lyda <12/25/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to at JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how many JL> come through before mine comes back). I have mine set at 27,000. Isn't that enough? It seems to take more time to update the DUP file than toss the mail sometimes. Oh well back to the drawing board.. * WCE 1.10/2008 * Bored at 3:00 a.m.? PSSSTTT - got a modem? --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1661 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/26/93 12:32p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop from Hell! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to JOE LYDA <12-25-93 23:18> Robert Hilgar wrote: RH> JOE LYDA wrote in a message to GEORGE VANDERVORT: RH> Boy would I feel like a real ASS if this due loop was from me. _____ ^^^^^^^^ / \ \/\/ | | (o)(o) C .---_) | |.___| What's a "due loop" | \__/ must be when your wayyy past due for a Dupe-loop? :-) /_____\ /_____/ \ Merry Xmas.. / \ Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1662 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 1:05p Subj: Re: ACONFIG.SKY and MAKECFG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to All <12-25-93 03:33> Tim Lajoie wrote: TL> Does anyone know if there is a problem with running several TL> different config files for ACONFIG.SKY and then switching them around TL> on TL> an errorlevel dropout and running MAKECFG and then going back into TL> PTCCMAIN? All of which is being done from a batch file. TL> TL> I seem to have it in my head that I read a message in here that TL> someone said the system needed to be rebooted when MAKECFG was run, TL> and TL> I want to find out for sure. TL> TL> Tim Lajoie, TL> SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net TL> --- WM v3.10/92-0279 TL> * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! TL> (1:222/21.0) This may have something to do with your earlier message about 60 Dupes out of every 120 messages? --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 1663 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 1:48a Subj: 8086 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've been setting up the planet connect software on my 8086. I've noticed that I can receive the files error free, and lose the file as soon as its finished and moved. I have been able to cure this by NOT viewing Status. Apparently the planetconnect program is not written as efficiently as it could be to accomodate the slower pcs. I had no problem what-so-ever with the skylink software.My machine runs at 7mhz. If anything could be done to help out the slow machines, many of my problems could be easily solved. I do have a math-co..and possibly using that in the programming would help. THe 16550 chip made no notible difference. Seems the problem was in the Statis View portion eating up vital memory. The copy protection, date checking has turned out to be a real pain in the ass. I don't have any slots left to put a clock card in, so I must set the time through the network. I did have an occasion where a program I ran messed the clock up 12 hrs. I now must set my clock ahead 12 hours for the program to work. What can I do (besides another long distance call to Tennesee for a reset code...this is getting expensive) to cure this. For me, the time copy protection has turned out to be my biggest worry since i must use the time from another computer...one slip-up, and I'm out of business...and at $40 a month for the service, plus all the nodes I feed...this is a real problem. Can anything be done to ease this problem? If not, then I'll return the whole thing until something more suitable to my needs is implemented...At this rate, its more economical to use the phone lines. I really want this thing to work....please help me. There just is nothing left for me to do personally besides buy another computer....and after the $300 for the receiver, not to mention the dish and parts...and 400 some odd bucks for a year subsciption, why I have to fight all the date copy protect bullshit. It should be easy to fix the date thing to be a little more lenient. I suppose I could shut the thing down for a day...and maybe it'll work again if I reset the clock then to the correct time......but without an 800 # for tech support...this is turning into a real moneypit. --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY WAGONER Number: 1664 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/25/93 11:58p Subj: Forward to??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> certainly. are you feeding the mail on to the rest of your net as we -> net seems to be generating 300k a day of replies. No, currently I am the Only one here doing Fido. The closest Fido node from me is 150 miles from here. All instate calls are more expensive, so to feed them would be senseless. My callers don't much use the mail. I try to get them interested but they don't see any point in it. Maybe they will come around. I am only in a town of about 10,000 and I do have 230 regular callers, about 120 of them are long distance. As for now We may have 3 pieces of mail go out a day, sometimes a week. On a real good day we may send 15-20 pieces. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0395] * Origin: Signal Butte BBS (1:3400/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1665 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/25/93 7:37p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! 23 Dec 93 22:18, Dave Osborne wrote to Boyd Goodin: DO> Not sure if anyone else saw this today or not. If it was just DO> me, then I've got problems. DO> PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. DO> It then proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever DO> exiting. At about 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or DO> there was an actual problem. He said he'd check and let me know. DO> I never heard back but at 1600cst, it exited on it's own. I have DO> thought it might have skipped exits before, but couldn't very it. DO> This time I watched at least two cycles of the same files come DO> down. I too have noticed that - today it did not exit ever, I run a TSR that I ran that counts the cycles, and when it popped up a lil bit ago had 1 cycle since 0600est. DO> Also, I've got about 26 orphaned Tic files left over. They were DO> also listed on the UPLD.LST, so something happened between you DO> and the uplink. Luckily, they were not anything I pass on so no DO> great loss. Noted that problem off and on for the last couple of days. I have been watching the flow real close due to some changes here locally. I also have a couple of files that don't have the TIC files... OZZ --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Chattanooga's 1st Sat-Link (6.8 Gig Online) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1666 To: SYSOP Date: 12/24/93 9:13p Subj: PCBoard Utils. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for SYSOP! A lot of you have been freqing A2C recently, I have zipped up the final Beta. Freq: OTW!A2C.ZIP From: 1:18/201.0 or 1:362/201.0 * If you have not seen what A2C is, it is for PCBoard operators w/ the Dish! Reads: FastEcho Areas.BBS, D'Bridge Areas.BBS, FidoPCB.CFG, or FIDONET.NA Updates: CNAMES.@@@ The Official Release will be coming out via the Satellite to all in the PCUTIL area. Along with the official Release of the TIC processor! (RTP). We just got in the 15.x Developers Kit for Christmas, and will also be making some killer 'C' source doors! Basically, I am re-writing all those great PCB 14.5 doors, and will be releasing the source code with them over the PCUTIL file area. OZZ The secret is in the rinse cycle. --- Yo_Yo - Its up, its Down... * Origin: CHATTANOOGA'S 1ST SATELLITE SYSTEM! (NOW WE HAVE 4) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JANIS KRACHT Number: 1667 To: RICK NASH Date: 12/25/93 3:09p Subj: PDN Planet Connected? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Rick, RN> I've heard that PDN will be going planet connect. Fact or fallacy? 'Tis fact - I'm working on a backchannel for submissions first so that I can close open hatching a little less painfully. Janis --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: PDN HQ (914)344-0350 HST 343-7540 HST/V32b (1:272/38) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1668 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 7:02a Subj: One Way UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone testing the PCUSENET found a one-way link for replies back to the "Usenet"? We're gonna need one as soon as PC completes their testing and starts offering the full UUCP load. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1669 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:04a Subj: Re: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in the > download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic They are just directories. I broke down one of the bigger mail bundles and used two directories to do this in. Thats where they came from. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1670 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:05a Subj: Re: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BTW, what am I missing at the very beginning of the download cycle? Once > PCMAIN exits, it takes several minutes to move the files to processing > directories and return to downloading. It always starts out in the > middle of a file and thus never downloads it. What am I missing? Usually it is just the TVLISTING files. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1671 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:06a Subj: Re: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > One more thing..... > What do the status fields indicate on the status display at the bottom of > the screen? Blocks, Errors, CB and Sz are self-evident, but the PHs, > PBs, CBs and T??s are a little more difficult. Anything with a T?? means the file was trashed and not saved tothe HD. Any B means a block of data, THe P's I am not too sure of. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1672 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 12/27/93 12:07a Subj: Re: .tic files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Need some .tic files for the following... do you still have them? Can you > put them on hold for me??? > ARLD068 LZH 615 Sorry Dave. Only started saving the TIC files on the 21st of this month. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1673 To: TOM JONES Date: 12/27/93 12:09a Subj: Re: Missing TIC files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > Seems to be several files (mostly SDN) being passed down > without the TIC file. I have even included a batch command Sorry guy but I only started saving the TIC files on the 21st of this month. If you miss some they are freq here by the date you missed starting the 21st. Eg: 12-21-93.ZIP ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1674 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/27/93 12:10a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, Boyd. You call a 19 second connect to drop off everything trouble? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1675 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/27/93 12:12a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > from what is currently coming across and starts feeding the new info? If > so, what are the chances of getting the feed start fresh so that we can > get an errol level and drop out, as we do with the repeats? That would be hard as it can stop right in the middle of a file. This is a complete shutdown of the transmitter. We may make revisions in the furture. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1676 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:13a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > it. He'll probably want me to set up a test set with Intermail. > Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1677 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/27/93 12:14a Subj: Re: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks Boyd. > Joe Your welcome. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1678 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/27/93 12:15a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > actually it killed me...dropped the network back to 4.1 and had so many > lockups i went back to two nodes with pc running as an event on node > 2..much steadier...guess i will have to work on node 3 for a while... Sorry to here about that. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1679 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/27/93 12:16a Subj: Re: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Please tell us if PLANET_CONNECT or PCSITES is restricted in anyway > to my downlink Sysops or users. Never seen anything on it. PLANET_CONNECT can be passed on while the PCSITES is private for receiving systems only. > In the initial paperwork I received, I thought there were some mention > of additonal "services", such as USA Today or Newsbytes...for > an additional cost. Is this or anything else available yet or > planned to go out over the bird? If so, any specifics yet? We are still waiting for the people at USA Today to get the paper work done. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1680 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/27/93 12:19a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is this when the new mail starts for the day? Is any other > new mail sent before 07:45 the next day? It seems I'm only getting > one toss a day about 11:00am EST. Is this correct? Usually everything for the day starts at 7:45. If something important that does not go up or a big bundle gets sent up and I have to break it down is the only time that anything would be added during the day. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1681 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/27/93 12:20a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > respect), I knew that anything that hit him destined for 3615/50 would > wind up going direct to you. > Live and learn. We'll add a few more gray hairs yet -:) No you won't. I got grecion formula 16 for Xmas. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1682 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/27/93 12:20a Subj: Re: 2400 baud connection Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> The HST kind of started having a few problems. > Ouch! Now I gotta visit Santa one mo time. Hope he brought you one? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1683 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/27/93 12:22a Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > By this I mean, could you isolate the echo mail from say > the TIC files and when the echo mail has been transmitted > then send the signal to exit out and process??? > Once that's done, then send up the tic stuff??? And what may I ask would you like for me to place in as fillers so you dont miss any of the tics or files? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1684 To: JOE MEADORS Date: 12/27/93 12:23a Subj: Re: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Do you know if there is a similar service provided to users in Europe or > elsewhere? Not at the moment. But we do have plans for that neck of the woods. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1685 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/27/93 12:24a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I sent a test message thru 3615/50 addressed to 396/1 and he got it > without it going all over the globe as well. That's what I meant when I > said I had sent a test message to John. You sent it to him after your > sytem received it from me. Routing through your system worked. Yes once I had it set right. Now I am getting routed netmail to unlisted nodes and you name it. So I guess it is up to everyone to get thier stuff straight now eh? ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1686 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/27/93 12:25a Subj: Re: routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the crew there at Planet Systems. Sorry its late but same to you and best wishes for the new year. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1687 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/27/93 12:26a Subj: Re: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > but it stays on the Screen when you try to Exit the watch mode.. > it would be a Nice Option to be able to re-display the Planet Connect > Screen > when Exiting the Watch Mode.. instead of having to Exit PTCCMAIN.. Ok thanks for the input. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1688 To: MIKE PERKINS Date: 12/27/93 12:33a Subj: Re: pcboard files on the Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> The PCBOARD filebone areas are going over the sat. > OK, Thanks Boyd. I like your setup alot. I wish Rime would speed things > up so we could knock out the phone bill. -g- First of the year from what I hear. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1689 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/27/93 12:34a Subj: Re: Ticks Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Why not have that go out the next day on the SAT as well? > Chuck Never thought of that. They are always avaible here for FREQ. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1690 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:37a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > start. It is apparent that the final cycle doens't totally complete, the > one I watched yesterday just stopped mid way of a file and after > about 15 minutes of dead time, started the new stuff. Having that final > cycle to exit and then pick up fresh after the dead time would be nice. > Understandable that it may be more difficult than it sounds. :-) I do a complete shutdown prior to moving any inbound files over the network to the satellite outbound. This speeds up the process a bit and allows me to do a few other things too. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1691 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/27/93 12:38a Subj: Re: ECHOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, How about setting up some PC specific ECHOS one for each BBS type. > These Echos would only be on the SAT. and would be BBS (software, TBBS, I think this area is good for this. You have 670+ to track now. Dont need any more now do you? ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1692 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:40a Subj: Re: PTCCMAIN.EXE v1.20 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > A means of manually forcing an errorlevel 100 exit for time when PTCCMAIN > doesn't on it's own. > Also an optional log file that makes a one line entry for each file > received indicating dat/time/filename/size/status/errors, etc. It would > sure help to debug this thing. > If no incoming blocks are sensed for several minutes, the Uart is reset. > ...like I said, wish list stuff. :-) noted and will see what I can do. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1693 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/27/93 12:41a Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. It then > proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever exiting. At > about 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or there was an actual i dont know what happened those days. Is it working ok now? I cant find anything wrong at the uplink. The flag file is being sent. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1694 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/27/93 12:42a Subj: Re: Fidonet NodeDiff.A58? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Something strang is happening.. > Friday 12-24-93 I received NODEDIFF.A51 and a Tic file in the morning > Downlink > Only Problem is, that is the same NODEDIFF.A51 that was released Friday > 12-17-93, this weeks NodeDiff should be NODEDIFF.A58 ?? Thats was because of a few files not getting deleted from the previous week. Seems I always miss one. It is fixed now. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1695 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/27/93 12:43a Subj: Re: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > WORK!!! Back to WORK!!!! > NO DAYS OFF!!!! Ah humbug! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1696 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/27/93 12:45a Subj: Re: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I didn't know you were able to take days off. I am sure you will catch > hell for doing that! Ah, this stinkin computer decided to act normal for a change and I did not have to do anything Xmas day. Got to sit down to a real good home cooked mean for a change.  > Happy and Safe Holidays Boyd! Thanks for an excellant service!! Same to you guy and many more to come. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1697 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/27/93 12:45a Subj: Re: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hey hey hey....was that in the contract??? Yep, I just added it in! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1698 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/27/93 12:46a Subj: Re: cnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > boyd...are you going to get circuitnet on the bird? i hope the answer is > yes and would be willing to do what i can to help. I poll nightly from > the national host. Still waiting for the boss to take a look at it and give me the go ahead. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1699 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/26/93 6:14p Subj: Re: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I tried your PCAREAS on my QUICKBBS AREAS.BBS file and it worked grea Fantastic...Once I get some info on AllFix, then I'll do the same for AllFix/Tick! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1700 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/26/93 6:19p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I assume you use WCFILE with allfix to add desc's into WC? -> I've seen Allfix in use but haven't set it up. I'm not sure I wa -> to wait for v4.0 of WCFF to come out. Got a WCFILE/ALLFIX file -> for freq? Well, I wrote a program (WCTICK) that creates the WCFile batch file for me...all you do is select the appropriate file areas and the batch file is created! FREQ: WCTICK Plan to write something to add all the descriptions, etc to the AllFix database if I can get the structure info. I'll attempt to solve it w/o the info if I have to, would just be quicker to have it. -> Tried your pcareas file, works nice. How tough would it be to be -> able to delete an area that isn't in Fidonet.na or whatever, tha -> 1:3615/50 is the uplink to? I plan to do this in the next release. Time is short at the moment, but sometime next weekend (when I return from a trip) I'll add the code. It will also be automated if commandline parameters are provided! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 1701 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/26/93 12:29p Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the same JL> problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to at JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how Yeah, but why aren't the dupes caught before they go up to the bird? It take a load off thounsands of systems if the system feeding all of them would trap the dupes. --- > -> -> -> JL} It's always worked for me too. But now that I'm tossing th -> -> JL} Filebone, it has a lot to be desired. It's a memory hog! -> -> JL} I have 620k available mem on the workstation that does the -> -> JL} When I added the entire filebone the .CFG file grew to abo -> -> JL} Well that locked it up tighter than a mouses ear. I had to -> -> JL} .CFG down to 36k before it would run again. I guess a new -> -> JL} is to be released soon though. -> -> -> -> WCFF will also work well in conjunction with RAID. You can use -> -> the entire FILEBONE.NA in the Raid.cfg file, and let RAID -> -> maintain the WCFF.CFG file. Raid was designed to work with TIC, -> -> but the only difference between the TIC.CFG and WCFF.CFG is the -> -> IN vs. INFILES verb. Raid updates the WCFF.CFG file and adds -> -> file areas only as needed, and my WCFF.CFG has yet to hit 15K. -> -> Latest version of RAID is 1.23 .... -> -> I'm using Raid 1.23 now. How do you add ALL the files off the -> bird to WC! with a 15k .CFG file? I'd like to see your setup. -> Could you zip up your .CFGs and let me take a peek? -> -> John... better yet, make it available for freq.... cheers... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MORRIS Number: 1703 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 9:41a Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the weather maps that are coming through. I have not been able to decompress them. I am wanting to look at them for my own personal use. Thanks James Morris --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The Computer Matrix - 417-862-8910 (1:284/29) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1704 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 1:29a Subj: Dongle Lock & Printer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am wondering if anyone has a suggestion on how to get around the problem of having to have the printer ON when the printer and dongle share the same paralell port. I only have the one paralell port so the dongle has to go there, but I use the printer a fair amount and sometimes forget to either unplug it, or turn it on at night, and then when PC fires up it fail because the power on the printer isn't turned on. Is there a way to let the dongle do its thing with the printer plugged into it and with the power OFF? Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1705 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/26/93 10:12p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Fred Seibel writes: FS>AHHH !!!! So I'm not the only one to see that!!! Good, at least my sanity is asure for a few more days. :-) FS>I think that was mentioned a day or so back. Seems the TIC messages got FS>"lost". Guess the bird did a back flip and the signal got sent toward the FS>moon!! :)!! Come to think of it, they did look a little worn when they got here. Course, that wasn't near as bad as what happened Friday. That stuff was a week old. :-( Happy Holidays D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1706 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/26/93 10:16p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Greg, In a msg on , Greg Vandergriff writes: GV>I have wondered about this also, I have noticed it go through 2 to 3 GV>repeats of same files and not exit and wondered if it was my setup or GV>what. Boyd, it seems this is a fairly wide spread problem. Can we get a definition on how the exit signal works? Depending on how it works, it would probably be good to repeat it a few times in a few seconds. The repeats wouldn't hurt anything as it takes several minutes to recycle the program anyway. Comments? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1707 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 12:58p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH> Tim wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: RH> S> I got 29 _TODAY_! Same ones that came through several days RH> S> ago... and several days before that! RH> RH> That's odd Tim, I didn't see any of those. The ones I see are RH> properly placed in the PCSTATS area. RH> RH> BTW, Your message was FROM: SYSOP so I had to look in the nodelist to RH> find who you were. Does your "_echomail_" always say from Sysop? Wasn't I. My initials would be TF> not S>. I don't have the dish yet. I won't be ordering until about January 15th. TRENDS! is coming to Sumner in February.....Be on the lookout!!! --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1708 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 12/24/93 1:12p Subj: Take it easy...... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> In a message to Terry Blount <11-26-93 20:45> Sysop wrote: GV> GV> Sy> We are all getting them! From GMD, every day, same messages GV> Sy> repeated. GV> Sy> GV> Sy> -Tim GV> Sy> * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) GV> GV> Who are you?? GV> GV> By Using the Name SYSOP... GV> it makes it hard to REPLY to the Right person.. GV> GV> There are Thousands of other Sysop's who might think that a Reply to "SYSOP" GV> was intended for them? GV> GV> Regards, GV> George Vandervort NEC NET382 Just so you all know and maybe some helpful tracking of where the 'real' message originated from, this messages WAS NOT FROM ME!. Please don't yell at me and use some fancy NEC tagline with some kind of authority. I just read the messages, I am not hooked up to the Planet Connect service yet nor do I even have th dish yet. Somehow, I can only think that; 1) Maybe somehow I sent up a duplicate packet to my hub and it went through normal channels and you all here got it twice? That is if it was the orginal only as I didn't reply to that message. 2) Someone wrote a message with sysop, but I don't know how folks thought the address on the tear line was mine? If you want to accuse me of something and get a little hostile in your message writing, then please show me how you came about my name. The above quote you give is from a -Tim at (1:238/501). How do you get 1:138/165 out of that with a name from me of Tim Fierro? This message came into me here as Tim Fierro. My software takes the TO: Sysop messages and makes them TO: Tim Fierro. If you to addressed it to Sysop, then you were just telling me not to do this. If you were reply to Tim Fierro which is me, then why are you quoting some other Tim in the above? TRENDS! is coming to Sumner in February.....Be on the lookout!!! --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 1709 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/26/93 2:13p Subj: AREAFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KK> it all works fine here except i run squish instead of freemail so I KK> wouldnt know if that is the one loose bolt you're having. Thanks for the help Ken.....will let you know how it works out...it may be FREEMAIL causing the problem, there was not that much difference in your REC setup and mine....we will see. Emmett MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WENZEL Number: 1710 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/27/93 9:38p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the > weather maps that are coming through. I have not been able > to decompress them. I am wanting to look at them for my > own personal use. PKUNZIP RADAR.ARC I had the same problem, they are Zipped not arc'd Bill --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: CFIN, Orlando FL, U.S.A. (1:363/157) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1711 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/27/93 7:33p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>I probally will need help. Thanks no problem. Boy, this one day turn-around on LD echomail is great. It sure is different from the old land-line method. see ya --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1712 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 8:07p Subj: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Message originally: From: John Morano To : All Date: 12-27-93 Area: "PCSITES" * Forwarded by John Morano using RemoteAccess 2.01/Professional (250 node) Warning!!! Warning !!! Warning!!! Please be advised that if you are running PCUTILS on your system some funny things are going to happen on Jan. 1 1994. Due to a coding error in the program (no it's not a worm ) the control number that is in CHECK.IDX..... 0000FFFF.THA 34327 FRIDAY 12-24-93 0000FFFF.THB 34327 FRIDAY 12-24-93 ^^^^^ ..... will be incrimented by 31 days instead of the 1 day that it should. What this will mean is that the ALL the file enties recieved before 1-1-94 will be purged from the index on the first CHECK that is run after midnite, so the files you recieve from midnite on the 1st until Planet Connect starts the new feed at 8AM will look like new mail to the program. (massive dups if you toss them) I wish I had a quick fix for the problem, but I don't, The original source code for PCUTILS is long gone. Safest way to work around it is to not run PCUTILS (or the receiver program) from midnite to 8AM and then before you fire it up the next morning (if your in any shape for it after the party ) delete the CHECK.IDX file completely and let it start new. Now here's the real pain, on Feb. 1 the thing will get its brain mixed up again and set the control number back to where it should be, so at 8AM on the 1st of Feb. (I'm hoping to have PCFU out before then) you will need to delete the file again and let it reset. Sorry for the screw up Guys & Gals but its......... Only a hobby.... only a hobby.... only a hobby............. ;-) John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 1713 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/26/93 10:15a Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GL> Hello All! GL> Is anyone using PC without using a multitasker/network? My net GL> just purchased the satellite equip and we're now in the process GL> of setting up the computer. We're trying to run it on a 386sx16 GL> using DV but it appears this is not going to work as PC is GL> continually writting to the hd giving FrontDoor no chance, ie, GL> setting ticks 9 to 3 with FrontDoor in the foreground, it takes GL> about 30 rings before FD will even answer the phone :( GL> Any suggestions? I run planet connect with DV here and we had to set the TICKs 1 to 1. Works great! Regards , Dave M. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1714 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/27/93 5:49p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the > weather maps that are coming through. I have not been > able to decompress them. I am wanting to look at them > for my own personal use. Just need to unzip them. I at first thought they are ARCed, however later found out it was ziped. Don't know why the file extension is .ARC however. Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1715 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/27/93 1:26a Subj: Stats Echo Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Lajoie wrote in a message to All: TL> In the Planet Connect Statistics echo, could someone TL> tell me what the ECHO IN coloum and the NET IN Coloum TL> represents? Echomail In and Netmail In? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 1716 To: ALL Date: 12/25/93 1:48p Subj: this echo? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just wondering if this echo is active? --- FastEcho v1.30 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1717 To: BILL ROPER Date: 12/28/93 1:05a Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> -> WCFF will also work well in conjunction with RAID. You can use -> -> -> the entire FILEBONE.NA in the Raid.cfg file, and let RAID -> -> -> maintain the WCFF.CFG file. Raid was designed to work with TIC -> -> -> but the only difference between the TIC.CFG and WCFF.CFG is the -> -> -> IN vs. INFILES verb. Raid updates the WCFF.CFG file and adds -> -> -> file areas only as needed, and my WCFF.CFG has yet to hit 15K. -> -> -> Latest version of RAID is 1.23 .... -> -> -> -> I'm using Raid 1.23 now. How do you add ALL the files off the -> -> bird to WC! with a 15k .CFG file? I'd like to see your setup. -> -> Could you zip up your .CFGs and let me take a peek? -> -> -> -> John... -> -> -> better yet, make it available for freq.... Hehehe...Yeah. I just wrote myself a simple batch file to run two WCFF.CFG's to catch all the tics comming off the bird until I come up with something better or Derek finishes v4.0. It's very simple but seems to work well here so far...two full tosses. It can be modifed in many ways to save the .tics or .bffs if you like. I just check the wcff.log. For those that don't know what ticfix is, it deletes the colon after the FROM in the tic which is a bug in WCFF when the sender is using an AKA address. I use it before and after so my wcff downlinks don't have to use it. It's available here as ticfix.zip :START C: CD C:\WC\WCFF TICFIX C:\FD\FILES COPY C:\FD\FILES\*.TIC C:\FD\TEMP WCFF -N REN WCFF.CFG WCFF3.CFG REN WCFF1.CFG WCFF.CFG COPY C:\FD\TEMP\*.TIC C:\FD\FILES WCFF -N REN WCFF.CFG WCFF1.CFG REN WCFF3.CFG WCFF.CFG DEL C:\FD\FILES\*.BFF DEL C:\FD\TEMP\*.TIC TICFIX C:\FD\TICFILES :END --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1718 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 1:19a Subj: Re: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > In the initial paperwork I received, I thought there were some ment -> > of additonal "services", such as USA Today or Newsbytes...for -> > an additional cost. Is this or anything else available yet or -> > planned to go out over the bird? If so, any specifics yet? -> -> We are still waiting for the people at USA Today to get the paper -> work done. -> ...Boyd Thanks Boyd. Any addition services/features planned? How about Boardwatch Mag? I'm also finally (maybe) ready to explore this TVagent. Is this suppose to be "viewed" only on the receiving site via a "door" or are the users suppose to D/L it/something? Same questions for the satelite files. Thanks! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1719 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 1:21a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Is this when the new mail starts for the day? Is any other -> > new mail sent before 07:45 the next day? It seems I'm only getting -> > one toss a day about 11:00am EST. Is this correct? -> -> Usually everything for the day starts at 7:45. If something import -> does not go up or a big bundle gets sent up and I have to break it do -> only time that anything would be added during the day. -> Gotcha! Thanks.... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1720 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/28/93 1:25a Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FREQ: WCTICK Ok..I'll take a peek...thanks. -> -> Tried your pcareas file, works nice. How tough would it be to -> -> able to delete an area that isn't in Fidonet.na or whatever, -> -> 1:3615/50 is the uplink to? -> -> I plan to do this in the next release. Time is short at the -> moment, but sometime next weekend (when I return from a trip) I'll ad -> the code. It will also be automated if commandline parameters are -> provided! It all sounds great Chuck, thanks. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1721 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/28/93 1:28a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the sam -> JL> problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to -> JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how m -> JL> come through before mine comes back). Does Gomail have a sele -> JL> number of messages to check for dupes, can you increase it? -> -> -> Yes it does and I have it set at 20000 but will increase it. I -> did find the bigger one here, one of my downlinks, and am working -> at getting it corrected. This stuff will drive ya nuts, huh? :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1722 To: STEVE PERLO Date: 12/28/93 1:37a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Ola' John -> -> In a message to Joe Lyda <12/25/93> John Lyon wrote: -> -> JL> To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to at -> JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how m -> JL> come through before mine comes back). -> -> I have mine set at 27,000. Isn't that enough? It seems to take more t -> to update the DUP file than toss the mail sometimes. Oh well back to -> drawing board.. Well WM recommends about 3-4 days worth. I had mine at 30000 but I'm getting over 15000 a day. I may still have to up it. My IX and DAT files are at 5 megs now. :( All my WC related DAT & IX files are larger than my first (40 meg) hard drive! This in only a hobby, yeah right. :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1723 To: JASON BAGINSKI Date: 12/28/93 1:55a Subj: Re: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL> I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the sam -> JL> problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to -> JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how -> -> Yeah, but why aren't the dupes caught before they go up to the bird? Because they weren't checked when they came in? -> It take a load off thounsands of systems if the system feeding all of -> would trap the dupes. That would be nice, but your sending the dupes over the landline and then PC would delete them after they made the round once? Gets confusing, huh? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 1724 To: ALL Date: 12/26/93 6:07a Subj: Satelite feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am looking for some information, on this new satelite feed, cost of system, what is needed involved etc. Can anyone supply me with this info? --- FastEcho v1.30 * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1725 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/27/93 5:01p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE! 23 Dec 93, JOE LYDA writes to GEORGE VANDERVORT: JL> Hello George! JL> In a message to Joe Lyda <12/22/93> George Vandervort wrote: GV>> GV>> In a message to Joe Lyda <12-20-93 15:16> Jeff Olesen wrote: GV> JO> ->> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is JL> I fully agree that I should see my sent out mail return. But JL> what I am seeing is it return several times. Not just my mail It sounds as if you are not running the PCUTIL or other Dup checking software before you toss the mail. Remember that PC sends several (3-5) repeats a day of each file, including the mail 0000FFFF.??? files. If you don't delete the duplicate arcmail bundles before you toss them then you *will* see the same mail 3 to 4 times. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1726 To: RICK NASH Date: 12/27/93 5:05p Subj: PDN Planet Connected? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rick! 22 Dec 93, Rick Nash writes to All: RN> I've heard that PDN will be going planet connect. Fact or fallacy? RN> Thanks! Fact.... PDN It is in the process of re-structuring so that it may hatch via the satellite. For more info you may contact Janis Kracht at 1:272/38. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1727 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/27/93 5:20p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE! 25 Dec 93, JOE LYDA writes to GEORGE VANDERVORT: GV>> I have a file available for Freq or Download called PCX2ICON.EXE GV>> (Self-extracting) that converts *.PCX file to RIP ICONS... JL> I already have that file and it will do it, however the user JL> has to download the icons to view them so I see no improvement JL> there ether. I guess it will be sometime before someone figures JL> out how to convert .pcx to .rip. Considering that PCX format is Bitmapped and RIP format is Vector graphics the conversion is not easy. (RIP Icons are Bitmaped) Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1728 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/27/93 5:24p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! 25 Dec 93, Fred Seibel writes to Dennis Powers: ->> Hello Fred! ->> ->> 22 Dec 93, Fred Seibel writes to Chuck Warren: ->> -> FS>> Do ya have something or know of something that will -> FS>> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? -> FS>> I'm presently using TIC and RAID. ->> ->> run: "RAID AUTOCREATE" before Tick gets ahold of the files. FS> We are doing that. Something seems to be amiss!!! FS> Thanks anyway, You also need to configure Tick for a default of Passthrough so when RAID creates new areas it points to the passthrough area. It's a balancing act between RAID and TICK. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1729 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/27/93 5:30p Subj: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 27 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Dave Osborne: BG> @MSGID: 1:3615/50.0 d1e7a923 >> BTW, what am I missing at the very beginning of the download cycle? Once BG> Usually it is just the TVLISTING files. Would it make sense to repeat them at the end of the cycle also? Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1730 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/27/93 5:38p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James! 26 Dec 93, James Morris writes to All: JM> Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the weather maps that JM> are coming through. I have not been able to decompress them. I am JM> wanting to look at them for my own personal use. PKUNZIP *.ARC sneaky buggers... Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: GS Fire/Life BBS Farmington, Ct (203)677-7848 (1:142/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1731 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/27/93 10:58p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James! In a message to All <12/26/93> James Morris wrote: JM> JM> Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the weather maps that JM> coming through. I have not been able to decompress them. I am wanting t JM> look at them for my own personal use. Ya do a pkunzip *.arc it seems someone thought that a .ARC extention on a .ZIP file would serve some good pourpose, I fail to see their humor myself. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Now diamonds AND AIDS are forever. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1732 To: JANIS KRACHT Date: 12/28/93 12:10a Subj: PDN Planet Connected? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 'Tis fact - I'm working on a backchannel for submissions first so that I > can close open hatching a little less painfully. Yay! Thank you for the toil and trouble you've gone through with this aspect of the PDN. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1733 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 12/28/93 12:20a Subj: 8086 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've been setting up the planet connect software on my 8086. I've > noticed that I can receive the files error free, and lose the file as It's recommended that you put it on a 286 or better. > soon as its finished and moved. I have been able to cure this by NOT > viewing Status. Apparently the planetconnect program is not written as That was the way that I got it to run on a 286, by turning off the status. > efficiently as it could be to accomodate the slower pcs. I had no > problem what-so-ever with the skylink software.My machine runs > at 7mhz. If anything could be done to help out the slow machines, Wow, mine was at 12. > many of my problems could be easily solved. I do have a math-co..and > possibly using that in the programming would help. THe 16550 chip made > no notible difference. Seems the problem was in the Statis View portion > eating up vital memory. The video display is one of the hardest working parts of the program. From what I can tell, this program was coded with much inline assembly. This thing has to handle data coming in at 19.2K raw data flow, so very little time is left for the video code. An XT running at 7 MHz...it's just not supposed to work. The fact that you're getting it to receive is a very significant achievement :) > The copy protection, date checking has turned out to be a real pain in > the ass. I don't have any slots left to put a clock card in, so I must > set the time through the network. I did have an occasion where a > program I ran messed the clock up 12 hrs. I now must set my clock > ahead 12 hours for the program to work. What can I do (besides another > long distance call to Tennesee for a reset code...this is getting > expensive) to cure this. Turn it off for 12 hours. > For me, the time copy protection has turned out to be my biggest worry > since i must use the time from another computer...one slip-up, and I'm I must do that too, since something about my machine causes the date not to flip over at midnight when PC is running. Every major brand of NOS has a way to set your current machine's clock according to some server (be it dedicated, like Novell's, or non-dedicated, like Lantastic's). Just use it and don't let anything change the time on your server(s) > out of business...and at $40 a month for the service, plus all the > nodes I feed...this is a real problem. Can anything be done to ease > this problem? If not, then I'll return the whole thing until something > more suitable to my needs is implemented...At this rate, its more > economical to use the phone lines. Once you get it setup and running, its benefits far outweigh the costs. You must realize that all good business investments will incur some high initial costs. It's the $200/month savings after you get the system up and running that make it worth it. In this net, this system has paid for itself already and is running in the black. > I really want this thing to work....please help me. There > just is nothing left for me to do personally besides buy another > computer....and after the $300 for the receiver, not to mention the > dish and parts...and 400 some odd bucks for a year subsciption, why I > have to fight all the date copy protect bullshit. It should be easy to Call it job security :) > fix the date thing to be a little more lenient. I suppose I could > shut the thing down for a day...and maybe it'll work again if I reset > the clock then to the correct time......but without an 800 # for tech > support...this is turning into a real moneypit. An 800 number would be nice but since they're only charging us $40 per month, I can't imagine where they'd get the money for that. Have you tried swapping the XT motherboard for a cheap (less than $50) 286 motherboard? Good luck getting it to work! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1734 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 12:26a Subj: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Usually everything for the day starts at 7:45. If something important Can I be a stickler??? I still haven't figured out which time zone you are in, so in future posts of time references, can you put something like: 7:45 CST or 7:45 EST (It's GOT to be one of those two :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1735 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 12:28a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yes once I had it set right. Now I am getting routed netmail to > unlisted nodes and you name it. So I guess it is up to everyone to get > thier stuff straight now eh? Hollar at me if anything comes up to you from me that is unlisted. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1736 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/28/93 12:31a Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the weather maps that > are coming through. I have not been able to decompress them. I am > wanting to look at them for my own personal use. Try PKUNZIP :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 1737 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/27/93 5:04p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No well i already tried that and he said that he has been trying to get a list like that for some time now so no luck there. but if you know of one please be kind and forward it our way ok thanks --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1738 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 1:29a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! In a message to Boyd Goodin <12/26/93> Dave Osborne wrote: DO> Thanks Greg, DO> In a msg on , Greg Vandergriff writes: DO> GV>I have wondered about this also, I have noticed it go through 2 to 3 DO> GV>repeats of same files and not exit and wondered if it was my setup or DO> GV>what. DO> Boyd, it seems this is a fairly wide spread problem. Can we get a defini DO> on how the exit signal works? Depending on how it works, it would probab DO> good to repeat it a few times in a few seconds. The repeats wouldn't hur DO> anything as it takes several minutes to recycle the program anyway. DO> Comments? Well It was at 1:am 12/28/93 my system got the message to drop to errorlevel 100 and did so but did a bunc od beeping and carring on but it looked like it could not find the toss dir or the hold dir from pcu.cfg I think it gave error 75 but don't hold me to it cause nothing was logged to a log anf fired up the main program as though it had processed the files. Nothing was moved, checked or anything. I exited the dude and did a pcutil check3 and all went fine. Thought I would pass this grimlin on to you. It is kinda like one of my hard drives that run on smoke cause when I let the smoke out of it it never run again. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1739 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/27/93 6:29p Subj: ONE WAY UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Has anyone testing the PCUSENET found a one-way link for replies > back to the "Usenet"? We're gonna need one as soon as PC completes > their testing and starts offering the full UUCP load. Holonet will. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1740 To: PLANET CONNECT Date: 12/26/93 7:08p Subj: Blank Descriptions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I noticed that some areas come in with blank descriptions with and without tabs. Unfortunately this causes problems with the max bbs system. During file scans the scan halts on a description line composed of blanks and tabs. I am using the OS/2 version of max but would suspect the dos version to do the same. Maybe you could add 'No Description' or something besides blanks. I will shoot a message off in the Muffin echo. Please refer to DN file areas. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1741 To: MIKE PERKINS Date: 12/27/93 7:59p Subj: Pcboard files on the file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MP> @SUBJECT:PCBoard Files on the Filekbone -> Jens Mueller is pushing them that way now. MP> Thanks for the info Jim. My phone bill is big enough MP> without having to call out for PCBoard utilities and MP> file updates. Especially for to zone 2. Jen's phone bill makes me -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1742 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/27/93 8:00p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > respect), I knew that anything that hit him destined for 3615/50 would > wind up going direct to you. BG> > Live and learn. We'll add a few more gray hairs yet -:) BG> BG> No you won't. I got grecion formula 16 for Xmas. BG> BG> --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 1743 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 3:49p Subj: UUCP and PCboard Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has anyone setup PCboard with the UUCP Mail bags that are coming in? I know PCBUUCP will do it but Im trying to avoide the $150.00 price tag by finding something else that will do it. Maybe once I have it set up where I can see what the Internet is all about then maybe I can see forking over $150.00.. Any Suggestions would HELP alot.. Thanks Ralph --- QScan v1.03b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 1744 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 9:52a Subj: PCUSENET? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Will someone please explain to me how I can use the PCUSENET packets? What processor do I need? Thanks. --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Colo. Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 1745 To: ALL Date: 12/27/93 9:54a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the day Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [%%} Quoting Chuck Warren to All <12 Dec 93 23:19> {%%] CW> Was just curious if there's a particular start time each day for the CW> new stuff? Right now I have to drop out of other DV tasks to collect CW> SAT data, then bring the nodes back on-line. Problem is I will CW> possibly miss data if I don't start the retrieval quick enough. I CW> tried using 9am and found that I missed some of the first 2-3 bundles CW> (QWK) of mail. I'm not processing that so it isn't a big deal. So my I'd like to know this also. If the dish doesn't have to be pointed at G3 all day, I can use it for other purposes. --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Colo. Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 1746 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/27/93 9:57a Subj: Re: rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [%%} Quoting Frank Salerno to Boyd Goodin <10 Dec 93 18:36> {%%] > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! BG FS> Hopefully soon! Just waiting on Bonnie. FS> ....Boyd FS> Please convince her to use your service. We are a RIME BBS FS> and it would be great to pull in the RIME echoes via satellite. I How do I get a link to RIME? --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Colo. Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1747 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 12/27/93 5:20p Subj: 8086 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Cameron wrote in a message to All: JC> I've been setting up the planet connect software on my 8086. JC> I've noticed that I can receive the files error free, and JC> lose the file as soon as its finished and moved. I have JC> been able to cure this by NOT viewing Status. Apparently JC> the planetconnect program is not written as efficiently as JC> it could be to accomodate the slower pcs. I had no problem JC> what-so-ever with the skylink software.My machine runs at JC> 7mhz. If anything could be done to help out the slow According to the folks at PC they dont recommend running it on anything less than a 286 with a 28ms or faster HD......I have a feeling you are going to have to upgrade your hardware. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1748 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/26/93 11:06p Subj: Hyperdisk parms Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Frank Salerno wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: FS> RHbut that didn't seem to make a bit of difference even with FS> buffers set at a low 10. I guess I need to read the FS> Hyperdisk doc's! FS> If I'm not mistaken. Hyperdisk docs tell you to set the FS> BUFFERS=1 Yes, ONE. Got any ideas why Hyperdisk doesn't save some of the incoming mail bundles from PC when staged writes are on? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1749 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:19p Subj: Re: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Usually it is just the TVLISTING files. Good! Nothing lost then. :-) Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1750 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:20p Subj: Re: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: > What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in the > download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic BG> They are just directories. I broke down one of the bigger mail BG>bundles and used two directories to do this in. Thats where they BG>came from. You know these little anomalies drive the tracking software nuts and require manual intervention to correct. Nice as it may be, this thing has been far from automated so far. Lord help me when I have to hit the road for a few days or take a vacation. I know your trying, anything you can do would help. Happy Holidays, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1751 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:38p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: JD> I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, Boyd. BG> You call a 19 second connect to drop off everything trouble? Coitenly, if it takes 4 tries to make that 19 second connection. It seems to be a little better in the past couple of days. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1752 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:41p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. Heyyyyyyyy, when you got the best, why switch. :-) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1753 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:49p Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> I do a complete shutdown prior to moving any inbound files over the BG>network to the satellite outbound. This speeds up the process a bit and BG>allows me to do a few other things too. Makes sense. I don't pretend to understand the process. Really, by the time we get to that point of the day we've either got everything or it's gonna be a manual fix of some sort. Thank God for PcUtil and/or SkyMail. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1754 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 11:54p Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: > PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. It then > proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever exiting. At > about 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or there was an actual BG> BG> i dont know what happened those days. Is it working ok now? I BG>cant find anything wrong at the uplink. The flag file is being BG>sent. Yeh, worked great today. Exited every 45 minutes or so... but that was another problem. I've got all the logs produced by Skymail indicating exit times. I'll see if there's any kind of pattern and let you know. I got a feeling the flag file was just missing those days. Is it identificable on the screen? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1755 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/29/93 12:00a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , OZZ NIXON writes: ON> I too have noticed that - today it did not exit ever, I ON>run a TSR that I ran that counts the cycles, and when it popped ON>up a lil bit ago had 1 cycle since 0600est. No problem. He caught up today. Must have rung up about a dozen or so. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1756 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 6:46a Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Got my copy in the mail yesterday....thanks, but I have a slight problem. The shutter door on the disk was damaged making the disk unusable. Could I get another copy? Also, when I received my hardware/software for PC there was NO receipt. Could I get that too? Thanks again, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1757 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/28/93 6:06p Subj: ONE WAY UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Holonet will. Thanks. I'll check with them about it. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1758 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/27/93 11:23a Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , John Lyon writes: JL>I got the same thing, several times before too! Just check your JL>Skymail or PCutil log to see when it was last written to check exit JL>times. I've kept every log from Skymail since I put it up. Quite a history. I have it netmail me the logs after each run. This non-exiting problem has been occuring since I turned it on, but I thought it was just my dish alignment. Guess not after all the responses I've gotten. JL>Last week I got about 20 files and no tics, this week I got 20 tics JL>and no files. This is becoming a pain. Very much so, especially after this weekend. And as of 9am cst this morning, it hadn't even started the monday file set. I'm beginning to wonder. See what happens when Boyd takes a day off. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1759 To: ANYONE Date: 12/27/93 11:27a Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? They showed up on the bird over this last weekend. 2-BBS 2-PIC 2-WINDOW They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area. But they are not on the Filebone.Na list. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1760 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/28/93 8:24p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/27/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> JL>I probally will need help. Thanks JD> no problem. JD> Boy, this one day turn-around on LD echomail is great. It sure is differ JD> from the old land-line method. see ya I have had enough of them good old days. I love the LD phone bill too. Lets hope it only gets better. It surly is better than 3-5 day and LD call too boot. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1761 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/28/93 8:27p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/28/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> JL> I've followed your problem with dupes here. I noticed the sam JL> -> JL> problem with WM. To fix it I had to set the dupe checking to JL> -> JL> least 40,000 before my system would delete them (that's how m JL> -> JL> come through before mine comes back). Does Gomail have a sele JL> -> JL> number of messages to check for dupes, can you increase it? JL> -> JL> -> JL> -> Yes it does and I have it set at 20000 but will increase it. I JL> -> did find the bigger one here, one of my downlinks, and am working JL> -> at getting it corrected. JL> This stuff will drive ya nuts, huh? :) You bet ya. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Become a programmer and never see the world!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1762 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/28/93 8:29p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dennis! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/27/93> Dennis Powers wrote: DP> Hello JOE! DP> 23 Dec 93, JOE LYDA writes to GEORGE VANDERVORT: DP> JL> Hello George! DP> JL> In a message to Joe Lyda <12/22/93> George Vandervort wrote: DP> GV>> DP> GV>> In a message to Joe Lyda <12-20-93 15:16> Jeff Olesen wrote: DP> GV> JO> ->> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is DP> JL> I fully agree that I should see my sent out mail return. But DP> JL> what I am seeing is it return several times. Not just my mail DP> It sounds as if you are not running the PCUTIL or other Dup checking soft DP> before you toss the mail. Remember that PC sends several (3-5) repeats a DP> of each file, including the mail 0000FFFF.??? files. If you don't delete DP> duplicate arcmail bundles before you toss them then you *will* see the sa DP> mail 3 to 4 times. DP> Dennis NA not so, PcUtil is the only file mover I use and it does a good job of not tossing the same file twice. Frade it is something elce. Anyway I had direa today, might have cleaned enough out to see it now. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Bigomy: one wife too many. Monogamy: same idea. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1763 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 12/28/93 8:41p Subj: this echo? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bob! In a message to All <12/25/93> Bob Slowinski wrote: BS> Just wondering if this echo is active? BS> --- FastEcho v1.30 BS> * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) No it is super active. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * DANGER! DANGER! Computer Store Ahead, Hide Wallet. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1764 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/28/93 11:04p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ya do a pkunzip *.arc it seems someone thought that a .ARC > extention on a .ZIP file would serve some good pourpose, I fail > to see their humor myself. Boyd said that it was due to the fact that the uplink site wouldn't overwrite a file that had a zip extension with the same filename. He changed the extension to arc and it overwrites it perfectly. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1765 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/28/93 4:48p Subj: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > original source code for PCUTILS is long gone. Too bad. BUT it is nice to see that I'm not the only one that misplaces source code. I guess for the price we paid for PCUTILS, can't really complain too much eh? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1766 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/27/93 8:37a Subj: ECHOS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JR> Boyd, How about setting up some PC specific ECHOS one for > JR> each BBS type. These Echos would only be on the SAT. and > > But I like having us all here. I have picked up many things from Robert, I sure agree. We don't need YAE (yet another echo) to monitor. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 1767 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/28/93 10:51p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Roger Morris: CC> How did you break it up into groups? I'd like to do CC> something like for users here to make life easier. Set flags for the echo groups (A=FIDO, B=IMEX, C=USENET) or for echo tones (A=software, B=chatter, C=hardware). Then offer the elect option as a mecca file that takes input to toggle the flags. The result is that only the flagged groups will show in the available echos listing. Note that the Max control file uses a general level for readership (e.g. - disgrace) and a specific flag for visiblility (A=ON=FIDO echos available or A=OFF=FIDO echos not seen). Example: CHOOSE.MEC ============================================================================= [/begin ckoff save cls yellow] Everyone has access to the local BBS echos on this System. [LightGreen] You can choose to turn on and off any of the network echos available on this BBS which include the following: [LightBlue] Number Status Network Description [LightMagenta] ====== ====== ======= ===========[gray] [IfKey]A . [white]1 [LightRed]ON [LightCyan]FIDO (Fidonet International)[gray] [NotKey]A . [white]1 [LightRed]OFF [LightCyan]FIDO (Fidonet International)[gray] [IfKey]B . [white]2 [LightRed]ON [LightCyan]IMEX (International Mail Exchange)[gray] [NotKey]B . [white]2 [LightRed]OFF [LightCyan]IMEX (International Mail Exchange)[gray] [IfKey]C . [white]3 [LightRed]ON [LightCyan]FEDNET (Federal Employee Network)[gray] [NotKey]C . [white]3 [LightRed]OFF [LightCyan]FEDNET (Federal Employee Network)[gray] [IfKey]D . [white]4 [LightRed]ON [LightCyan]UKEENET (Local Port Alberni/Ucluelet Network)[gray] [NotKey]D . [white]4 [LightRed]OFF [LightCyan]UKEENET (Local Port Alberni/Ucluelet Network)[gray] [IfKey]E . [white]5 [LightRed]ON [LightCyan]USENET (UUCP Newsgroups - K12 Educational Network)[gray] [NotKey]E . [white]5 [LightRed]OFF [LightCyan]USENET (UUCP Newsgroups - K12 Educational Network)[gray] . [white]0 [LightCyan]Finished Selections ..... Return to the BBS Message Menu [yellow] Enter Network numbers to toggle on/off (12345 or 0=Exit):_[menu]1234560| [choice]1[goto pick1] [choice]2[goto pick2] [choice]3[goto pick3] [choice]4[goto pick4] [choice]6[goto pick5] [choice]0[goto done] [choice]|[goto done] [goto begin] [/pick1] [Ifkey]A [KEYOFF]A [goto begin] [KEYON]A [goto begin] [/pick2] [Ifkey]B [KEYOFF]B [goto begin] [KEYON]B [goto begin] [/pick3] [Ifkey]C [KEYOFF]C [goto begin] [KEYON]C [goto begin] [/pick4] [Ifkey]D [KEYOFF]D [goto begin] [KEYON]D [goto begin] [/pick5] [Ifkey]E [KEYOFF]E [goto begin] [KEYON]E [goto begin] [/done load] [cls] [ckon] Regards, Dan W. =========================================================================== In your MSGAREA.CTL file your entry would look like: FIDONET ECHO AREA =========================================================================== Area 6A Access Sysop/A Echomail c:\mail\MSGS\FIDO\VIHUB MsgName VI_HUB MsgInfo Fido : Vancouver Island Hub Sysop Echo Type Squish Public Only End Area =========================================================================== IMEX ECHO AREA =========================================================================== Area 6B Access Sysop/B Echomail c:\mail\MSGS\IMEX\REGION81 MsgName IMEX.R81 MsgInfo IMEX : Region 81 Sysops Echo Type Squish Origin 1 Safe Harbour BBS [V32bis/HST/Satellite] Public Only End Area =========================================================================== USENET ECHO AREA =========================================================================== Area 6C Access Disgrace/E Echomail c:\mail\MSGS\UNET\TBIZ MsgName TALK.BIZARRE MsgInfo UseNet : Bizarre Discussions (Language Warning) Type Squish Origin 5 Safe Harbour BBS [V32bis/HST/Satellite] Public Only End Area =========================================================================== --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WROBEL Number: 1768 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/28/93 7:19p Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> FS>> Do ya have something or know of something that will > -> FS>> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? > -> FS>> I'm presently using TIC and RAID. > ->> > ->> run: "RAID AUTOCREATE" before Tick gets ahold of the files. > > FS> We are doing that. Something seems to be amiss!!! > FS> Thanks anyway, > > You also need to configure Tick for a default of Passthrough so when > RAID creates new areas it points to the passthrough area. It's a > balancing act between RAID and TICK. Ummm... And just how do you get Tick 2.10 to do that ?!? [ Dave ] --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The High Frontier RBBS / Holmdel, N.J. USA (1:107/605.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1769 To: JAMES MORRIS Date: 12/28/93 6:34p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James Morris wrote in a message to All: JM> Does anyone know the key to being able to look at the JM> weather maps that are coming through. I have not been able JM> to decompress them. I am wanting to look at them for my own JM> personal use. Just unzip them. They weren't encrypted or password protected the last time I looked. They do have an unusual extension for being ZIP files however. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1770 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/28/93 6:40p Subj: Blank Descriptions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Sloan wrote in a message to Planet Connect: DS> I noticed that some areas come in with blank descriptions DS> with and without tabs. Unfortunately this causes problems DS> with the max bbs system. I'm running the DOS version of Maximus and I haven't noticed anything like what you're describing. Where exactly are these blank lines and tabs? -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1771 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/27/93 4:33a Subj: Re: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, > JJ> > Also - My return mail to Boyd goes out to 1:3615/50 like it > JJ> > should, but the > JJ> > packets want to originate from 1:3615/51...Is this correct? I > JJ> > am using Gecho > JJ> > 1.00 and have tried many things to try to get it to send from > JJ> > my 1:104/675 > JJ> > address with no luck?!? > JJ>The way you have it setup should work OK, but if it bothers you, try > JJ>this.. > JJ>Go into Gsetup and take out the 1:3615/51 AKA, point Gecho's secure > JJ>inbound path to your Sat. toss directory (it will then not check pkt > JJ>destination) and it will bundle mail from you other Z1 address. > JJ>If your setup will not allow you to point GE to the sat. as a secure > JJ>inbound, go into the AKA matching and force your 1:104/675 address to > JJ>be matched with 1:3615/50 > JJ>John > JJ>--- GEcho 1.02/beta+ > JJ> * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) > John, I have had this very same problem... the packets are > fine... but > when GEcho writes the Arcmail message it uses 3615/51 for the > originating address! ...and 3615/51 isn't in the > connections... nor my > mailer... only in the GEcho AKA! Exactly GE is only using it's AKA matching to generate the ARC mail attach. And it makes absolutly NO DIFFERENCE what origin address the attach has... It is what is in the .pkt header, ^A path, and seen-bys that makes the difference. As long as 1:3615/51 is not in the pkt header, path, or seen-bys your outbound messages will be processed just fine at the PC uplink. Your mailer doesn't care WHAT address the ARCmail attach came from either, and will send to systems defined in your control files... So you see there IS NO PROBLEM.... As long as you have told GEcho to not use 1:3615/51 as the ORIGIN aka or put that address in the seen-by list for the message areas. Every tosser that I have ever used in the FD IM envor. that did AKA matching would do the SAME thing.... > I have posted numerous posts regarding this problem in the > GECHO_HELP > forum, mostly gone unanswered except one smarty chastising me > for > complaining about the lack of GEcho support! To date the > only way I > have been able to get around this problem is create a > username ARCMAIL > and send out the packet from ARCMAIL manually using the > correct AKA and > deleting the one that shows from ARCMAIL 1:3615/51. Again, it's not really a problem... Boyd's system could care less what address is used by your mailer as a file attach, it's concern is WHAT is in the compressed bundle that you drop off... So as long as you DON'T have 1:3615/51 in your mailer as an AKA, and you get connected and drop off your bundles, and they DON'T have 1:3615/51 in the header, path, or seen-bys your in GREAT shape :) > I will try your suggestions... will let you know the > results. I was > terribly happy with GEcho till I hooked up with PC. I would > replace it > in a minute... and would have already if the new InterEcho > had hub > support in it's current version. I know that there I _WILL_ > get > support. I read your messages in GEcho_HELP, and don't think it was lack of support, but rather a lack of understanding of your questions. In any case, I believe that whatever tosser you would use in this situation would have close to the same result... I've tried all 3 methods here, and all 3 work just fine for what counts... Getting the bundles to PC and them being procressed by thier system, and also getting to the bird. Hope you had a good Christmas, and happy New Year to you and yours... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1772 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/27/93 4:39a Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert, > John Johnson wrote in a message to Glynn Littleton: > JJ> Hopefully you have the PC connected to a 16550 UART, lock > JJ> the port for the PC machine, with the recieve buffer at 8k. > JJ> And install a GOOD delayed write cache. > Why do you suggest the 8K receive? T=8192 is not needed. > Am I wrong? You might not... I did however, it kept my 486/66 running under DV from hanging on the PC software. It also allowed my 286/12 to run the PC software under Novell lite as a sever/client. Actually I should say that the port locked at 38400, 8k recieve buffer, and delayed write cache made both machines work without locking up on the PC software. Or in DV's case every file not going to the trash can anymore... But hey evrybody's system is different, find what works and then leave it alone :) John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1773 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/27/93 4:42a Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yes, we're using the 16550 UART with locked port but not the > diskcache. > Will give it a try. Hope it works out for you, it did here... And slowed a little wear and tear on the drive to boot, since it only writes about every 15-20 blocks instead of every one... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1774 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/27/93 5:38a Subj: GEcho Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill, * In a message originally to Chuck Warren, Bill Wolf said: > >->Or anything that will read in a fidonet.n? file, and autoadd those new > area > > s > >->into GEcho.. > > I have written one that does it for QuickBBS style > > AREAS.BBS. Give > > me some info on 'P'assthru's for GEcho and I'll add > > the code for it! > I'm not too familiar with the format of the areas.bbs file, > however I exported one via GEcho, and it looks as tho the > file doesn't contain any descriptions. > GEcho can be setup to use the areas.bbs format, instead of > it's own index, but then I'd loose the ability to have the > descriptions for when other nodes do a %LIST. > I don't know what the GEcho format is, however maybe someone > will know in here, and can pass you the info. I presume that you are trying to get the FIDONET.NA and .NO files into GE's areamanger? Until Gerard adds code to auto-add new areas it can be done by the following. 1st. Go into gsetup and set the area record sizes big enough to handle all the area tags you want to import. Then run Gsetup Index Pack. 2nd. Setup a FAKE node account in the node manager (1:999/9999) or whatever and give it the ability to use the %FROM meta command. 3rd. Setup the uplink manager to use the combined files .NA and .NO with 1:3615/50 as the uplink system. Then generate a netmail areafix message from the FAKE node to GE using the +*, it will then add all the areas from the .NA and .NO files that you currently don't have on your system as passthru. 4th. Disable the uplink manager... 5th. If you want to add the discriptions, just rename the .NA and .NO files to the file name of ECHOLIST, and run GCONVERT ECHOLIST. You can also use the above mentioned program. Set the index sizes, run GSETUP index pack. Run Gconvert to import the areas.bbs, it should set all the NEW areas as passthru. Then do #5 above to add discriptions. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 1775 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/07/93 9:59p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday December 05 1993 10:02, John Dodson wrote to All: JD> Hello All! JD> I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days JD> ago. I have a few questions! JD> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a JD> Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate JD> the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a JD> workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. JD> PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from JD> the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your JD> help! I run PC on a workstation on my lantastic network with the following batch file: @ECHO OFF CLS SET PCU=G:\PLANETC :START G: CD\ CD\PLANETC PTCCMAIN IF ERRORLEVEL 700 GOTO TOSS IF ERRORLEVEL 100 GOTO TOSS IF ERRORLEVEL 0 GOTO EXIT :TOSS REM I have PCUTIL move all of the new files to c:\db\files REM which is my inbound area for d'Bridge. REM DB then fins them there and tosses them. PCUTIL CHECK4 GOTO START :EXIT PCUTIL CHECK4 ******************************************** Here is my PCU.CFG file..... BBS_NAME=D.M.U.G. BBS ; ; SATELLITE_IN=G:\bridge\FIles\ ; ; HOLD_DIR=C:\DB\FILES\ ; ; TOSS_DIR=c:\db\files\ ; ; LOG_DIR=G:\planetc\ ; ; INDEX_DIR=G:\PLANETC\ ; ; UPLD_FILE=G:\SKYDATA\UPLD.LST Thats it. Drive G is the work station with Planet Connect on it. Drive C is my line #1 where D'bridge lives. It is very simple but it works. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1776 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 12/28/93 8:31p Subj: 8086 real time clock/cal Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JCThe copy protection, date checking has turned out to be a real pain in the ass. I don't have any slots left to put a clock card in, so I must set the time through the network. I did have an occasion where a program I ran messed the clock up 12 hrs. I now must set my clock ahead 12 hours for the program to work. What can I do (besides another long distance call to Tennesee for a reset code...this is getting expensive) to cure this. There is a "No-Slot Clock" that will fit in any 28 pin ROM BIOS socket on your motherboard. The EPROM or ROM socket can have the no-slot clock installed and then the EPROM or ROM piggy-backed into the feed through socket. It costs $29.95. I had problems with a Vendex PC that when we upgraded to MS-DOS 3.3 and added another hard drive controller the built-in clock quit working properly. The no-slot clock was a simple cheap solution to our XT machine's clock problem. It too was out of slots. Available from JDR Microdevices (800)538-5000 Stock Number: NOSLOT-CLK $29.95 * 1st 1.10 #310s * The problem with the future is it turns into the present. --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1777 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/28/93 8:31p Subj: Dongle lock & printer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GVIs there a way to let the dongle do its thing with the printer plugged into it and with the power OFF? I mentioned a while back that I am running a printer sharing box that will allow 4 computers to print to one printer. As long as I leave power on to the printer sharing box, it doesn't matter if the printer is on or off. I know this is an expensive solution, but I had the printer sharing box long before I got Planet Connect. Ideally, someone from Aztec should also offer a little buffer dongle, that would hook between the dongle and printer. The buffer dongle would then have a small wall plug power supply connected to it via a coaxial power jack/plug. I'll bet that for what a buffer dongle would cost from Aztec, that you could buy a printer sharing box. * 1st 1.10 #310s * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high explosives --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1778 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/29/93 1:16a Subj: Joining rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How do I get a link to RIME? If you're connected to Planet Connect, wait till Boyd sends the file RLY0393.ZIP out over the satellite. If you NOT connected to Planet Connect (or can't wait) FREQ RLY0393.ZIP from 1:129/161 If you do consider joining RIME, please tell them you heard about it over the Planet Connect echo. --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 1779 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 9:51p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Anyone, Dave Osborne said: DO>Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution DO>areas are? They showed up on the bird over this last DO>weekend. DO>2-BBS DO>2-PIC DO>2-WINDOW DO>They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a DO>"2-*" area. But they are not on the Filebone.Na list. DO>D. Well check last weeks filebone at the end it listed the new areas for sdn they all started with 2- they are an single line entry. harold --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS In Leicster Mass (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1780 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 11:42p Subj: Message for the TVAGENT author. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From: John Lyon To: Boyd Goodin Date: 28 Dec 93 01:19:21 Subj: Re: OK JL> I'm also finally (maybe) ready to explore this TVagent. Is this JL> suppose to be "viewed" only on the receiving site via a "door" or are JL> the users suppose to D/L it/something? JL> Same questions for the satelite files. Your copy of TV Agent is for your use, but your callers can also subscribe to TV Agent for $24.95 per year paid to Planet Systems and download the listings (TVLIST*.ARC) from you. A DEMO version of TV Agent will be available for you to give your callers Real Soon Now. Planet Connect subscribers should also already have a copy of LOCALCHN.ZIP (to customize the listings for your callers' local cable channels.) It isn't appropriate for your users to run TV Agent on YOUR machine because each copy of TV Agent records personal viewing preferences for 99 users. Did you get the READ.ME file on the diskette every Planet Connect subscriber should have received recently? I think the READ.ME and ANNOUNCE.TXT you need has NOT been included in the TVA101.ZIP which Planet Connect regularly transmits immediately after each exit. Boyd JUST told me that that version (which landed in your \SKYDATA\PERSONAL directory, and needs the dongle) has also had trouble unzipping the listings. Boyd says he is going to quit sending it. You should all have the undongled (Everlocked) version by now anyway. Here's a section from READ.ME: -------------- DISTRIBUTING THE LISTINGS The listings are NOT to be passed on to other bulletin boards, but your callers can use them. A caller to your BBS will download the TVLIST*.ARC listings from your board, and must subscribe to TV Agent by paying $24.95 per year to Planet Systems. Callers who have their own satellite dishes will want the listings as Planet Connect supplies them to you; but callers who receive the same channels from a local cable system can also use TV Agent. You can customize the listings (by using the LOCALCHN.EXE utility Planet Systems supplies) so that they will show the local cable channel identification (instead of the satellite location) and include only the channels available locally. --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 1781 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 12:02a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To the PLANET CONNECT poeple: Insufficient Disk Space See this warning??? THAT is what my system told me today when it tried to copy files from my hold directory to my tossing directory. Do you want to knop WHY I got this warning???? ===== BECAUSE THE PEOPLE AT PLANET CONNECT ADDED ABOUT 20 MEGS ====== ===== OF FILES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RUN. IT TOOK THREE EXTRA ====== ===== HOURS TO GET THE FILES ON MY HARD DRIVE, AND THEN THESE ====== ===== FILES CROWDED OUT ALL THE FIDONET MAIL, FILEBONE AND TIC ====== ===== FILES, WHICH I ENDED UP LOOSING!!!!!!!!!!! ====== Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our mail. I think that most of your customers are FidoNet people or send mail to them. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR OPERATION TO US IS THE *(&*()&^& MAIL FILES. Secondary is the Filebone files. And least on the list are a bunch of files that don't have any TIC files with them that are placed AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST so they can effectively CROWD OUT the files we MOST WANT!!!!!! If you HAVE to place totally unknown files on the system and tie it up for ANOTHER 6 hours, PLEASE place these files at the END of the run so at least we echo coordinators get our jobs done. NOT EVERYONE is on a network and can easily pull off files from a hard drive. Are you guys trying to squeeze us little guys out of the BIG PICTURE, or what???? I had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough for all the files that were sent down from the sky Wednesday. Gees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rudolf Rothmeund, NC/NEC net 2440 --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1782 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/29/93 12:35p Subj: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Can I be a stickler??? I still haven't figured out which time -> are in, so in future posts of time references, can you put something -> -> 7:45 CST or 7:45 EST (It's GOT to be one of those two :) FYI, he is in EST. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1783 To: ALL Date: 12/29/93 10:34p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Looking for some help. I currently have a 386dx40 that runs 2-nodes under DV 2.42. I have purchased LANtastic AI and a 386sx33 to be used with the SAT. What is the best way to set this stuff up so that when all SAT data is in, the 386dx40 can process it. I know there are problems with DV 2.42 being a server, so I'm looking for some proven methods! Thanx, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1784 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 1:23p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? They > showed up on the bird over this last weekend. Sat feed only of SDN. > 2-BBS > 2-PIC > 2-WINDOW There have been messages on it for a while now. There was even a file sent about it. > They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area. > But they are not on the Filebone.Na list. Yes it is in the filebone.na have another look. Do a search on 2-WINDOW and you will find the info you are asking about. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1785 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/29/93 2:29p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/28/93> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> > Ya do a pkunzip *.arc it seems someone thought that a .ARC TL> > extention on a .ZIP file would serve some good pourpose, I fail TL> > to see their humor myself. TL> Boyd said that it was due to the fact that the uplink site wouldn't overw TL> a file that had a zip extension with the same filename. He changed the TL> extension to arc and it overwrites it perfectly. That is fine by me, knew there was a good reason, anayway I have no problem with them. Good graphics but just too big for a daily dl for most users. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Hardware: The part you kick. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 1786 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 9:51p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? T -> showed up on the bird over this last weekend. -> -> 2-BBS -> 2-PIC -> 2-WINDOW -> -> They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area -> they are not on the Filebone.Na list. Look athe Fido filebone.na for Dec. 24,1993 and it will tell you everything about it... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0399] * Origin: (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1787 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 10:34p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Anyone: DO> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution DO> areas are? They showed up on the bird over this last DO> weekend. DO> 2-BBS DO> 2-PIC DO> 2-WINDOW DO> They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a DO> "2-*" area. But they are not on the Filebone.Na list. They are now - check your latest list. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1788 To: DAVID WROBEL Date: 12/30/93 12:31a Subj: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello David! 28 Dec 93, David Wrobel writes to Dennis Powers: >> You also need to configure Tick for a default of Passthrough so when >> RAID creates new areas it points to the passthrough area. It's a >> balancing act between RAID and TICK. DW> Ummm... And just how do you get Tick 2.10 to do that ?!? Well... you don't. I mis-spoke myself and confused them with some other software I have been working with. Sorry for the confusion. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1789 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 11:04p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>Last week I got about 20 files and no tics, this week I got 20 t -> JL>and no files. This is becoming a pain. -> -> Very much so, especially after this weekend. And as of 9am cst this -> it hadn't even started the monday file set. I'm beginning to wonder. It's Wed night now and the files today contained almost 50 files with no tics. -> See what happens when Boyd takes a day off. :-) I'm not sure if he shouldn't take a few more :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1790 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/29/93 11:24p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? T -> up on the bird over this last weekend. -> -> 2-BBS -> 2-PIC -> 2-WINDOW -> -> They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area -> they are not on the Filebone.Na list. SDN remaned ALL their areas. You got a file over the bird a week ago SDNJAN94 or something like that that describes the new names. I beleive it is also mentioned in the fidonet.na although they won't be actually listed until Jan 1. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 1791 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/29/93 10:21p Subj: Disk !!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Fred Seibel of 1:107/615 writes: FS> HI BOYD!!! FS> Ahhhh, have a "slight" problem. FS> The present you put in that envelope, well, FS> seems like the USPO did there best. FS> Got here in several pieces! FS> Never saw a 3.5 in disk get beat up like that. FS> Seems that the post marking machine cought it square FS> in the metal shutter. FS> CRUNCH!! FS> Can't find the spring. FS> I did get it to install on a system for FS> me, but I'd really like get one "intact". FS> Guess I'll send it back to ya. FS> Fred. That's what mine looked like when I received it a while back. I figured they removed the slider to damage the disk so the software could identify it as THE original disk ... don't worry, it works without the slider. :):) --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1792 To: ALL Date: 12/30/93 9:31p Subj: DV Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm still having problems with the pc software stalling under desqview. Here is more of what I tried, and the settings: 486 dx2-66mhz running at 76mhz. 16 megs of ram. 16550 UARTS on both serial ports. BBS is running on COM2, PC on COM3 IRQ5. Using X00 and locking the BBS com port only. Tried locking Both ports, and still no change. Optimized Communications is off. Uses Serial Ports is off. Maxed memory in both windows. (around 480-490k). I've tried using seperate Command.Com for both BBS & PC, or just PC, or just BBS. Still no change. I've tried using BNU, and locking the ports again. Still No luck. My Ticks are 1:1 I've checked and double checked my ptccmain.ini file, to make sure that my sky* information was correct, as per to the docs. SKYFIFO=TRUE. And my Fifos are maxed out under my fossil drivers. increased the receive buffer in the fossil drivers. increased the write delay in my cache software. When running X00 for the fossil driver, the bbs com port was locked at 115.2k. With BNU I was only able to lock at 57.6k. Nothing else is running in the background - except the BBS (FD 2.20a.ml, and RA2.1), and PC current version. The stalling doesn't occur with heavy cpu usage. This is known. However I can't figure out exactly at what point the stalling starts. It can go for a few hours, or at times a few minutes with out stalling. My batch file for pc, is simple. bascially exactly the same as the batch file given with the software, with the exception that I'm running SkyMail, and I create a fd semaphore file, to invoke the regular tossing/scanning routines. by stalling I mean that the software no longer is 'getting' incoming data. However there is data coming in, as the data light flickers as it should, and my signal is strong. In order to get rid of the stalling, I have to exit out of the PC software, and start the batch file up again, and it'll work. Again for a random amount of time. If anyone can think of anything that I left out, or have ANY suggestions, please let me know. I'm just getting tired of this stalling business, and having to wait all day to receive all my files for the day, instead of getting them in one cycle. Thanks, Bill (815) 942-2906 Voice... --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 1793 To: STEVE PERSO Date: 12/29/93 3:05a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Steve SP>I have mine set at 27,000. Isn't that enough? It seems to take more SP>time to update the DUP file than toss the mail sometimes. Oh well SP>back to the drawing board.. Isn't this loads of fun? You going to be able to come down Sat 8th for the noon Mediate meeting, beer, and some of Mr Gatti's Pizza?? We've got that reserved room. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1794 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/29/93 7:17p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> Boy, this one day turn-around on LD echomail is great. It sure is > differ > JD> from the old land-line method. see ya > > I have had enough of them good old days. I love the LD phone > bill too. Lets hope it only gets better. It surly is better > than 3-5 day and LD call too boot. I assume that we will have 1-day turnaround on all mail from systems that are direct-connected to Planet. That number is approaching 1/3rd to 1/2 of fidonet in the USA so it looks great to me. see ya --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 1795 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/30/93 1:27p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudolf Rothemund wrote in a message to All: RR> Gees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RR> Rudolf Rothmeund, NC/NEC net 2440 Pssst Mister, ya wanna by a BIG hard drive? Approx .50 per meg...New (Bseg) I got in trouble not because of "lack of space", but for tardy mail. i know where your comming from... --- * Origin: Galaxy/Star Systems Satellite Data Services (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BAGINSKI Number: 1796 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/30/93 12:04p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> If you HAVE to place totally unknown files on the system and tie it up RR>for ANOTHER 6 hours, PLEASE place these files at the END of the run Is the software smart enough to recognize that a packet coming in is a mail bag? If so, then it should be able to ignore anything but a mail bag and you should be able to shut off anything but mail flow, if its becoming such a problem... --- > To the PLANET CONNECT poeple: -> ===== OF FILES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RUN. IT TOOK THREE EXTRA ==== -> ===== HOURS TO GET THE FILES ON MY HARD DRIVE, AND THEN THESE ==== -> ===== FILES CROWDED OUT ALL THE FIDONET MAIL, FILEBONE AND TIC ==== -> ===== FILES, WHICH I ENDED UP LOOSING!!!!!!!!!!! ==== -> Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet -> net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our -> mail. I think that most of your customers are FidoNet people or send -> mail to them. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR OPERATION TO US IS THE -> *(&*()&^& MAIL FILES. Secondary is the Filebone files. And least on -> the list are a bunch of files that don't have any TIC files with them -> that are placed AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST so they can effectively CROWD -> OUT the files we MOST WANT!!!!!! -> -> If you HAVE to place totally unknown files on the system and tie it -> for ANOTHER 6 hours, PLEASE place these files at the END of the run s -> at least we echo coordinators get our jobs done. NOT EVERYONE is on -> network and can easily pull off files from a hard drive. Are you guy -> trying to squeeze us little guys out of the BIG PICTURE, or what???? -> I had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough for al -> the files that were sent down from the sky Wednesday. -> BITCH BITCH BITCH... Always something.... My net wants the files.. Not the messages..If you only have 40 megs free then you almost have no business being a NEC. What do you do when your hub went down for a day or two??? Delete the messages??? This thing is going to get bigger so I suggest you rip off a few files to free up some space or slap another HD in the old box... When I joined PC I seen way beyond just that day and made proper plans it.. Seems that you are the one that didn't make the proper plans.. What you going to do when we get 50 megs of Usenet mail.. Tony Honaker --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0399] * Origin: (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 1798 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/30/93 7:52p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Looking for some help. I currently have a 386dx40 that runs 2-nodes -> under DV 2.42. I have purchased LANtastic AI and a 386sx33 to be use -> with the SAT. What is the best way to set this stuff up so that when -> all SAT data is in, the 386dx40 can process it. I know there are -> problems with DV 2.42 being a server, so I'm looking for some proven -> methods! -> I run a 486/33 server connected to 2 386/40 via lantastic.. Running DV only on the nodes.. PC runs on dedicated machine that I also run all my utilities from.. Have no problems at all can run DV and multi task the hell out of it with no problems at all... I like to keep my Server free as much as possible so I don't do anthing on it that I can do on the workstation.. Running dos 6.20 DV 2.60 Qemm 7.03 AE2 cards. System runs like clockwork... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0399] * Origin: (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 1799 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 12/30/93 9:35a Subj: UUCP and PCboard Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ralph, UUPCB by Ed Hopper is less expensive tha PCBUUCP. I'm using Hoppers program right now but I get my inbound mail from a difference satellite dish (PageSat) Gary --- þ RM 1.2 00891 þ One Stop PCBoard þ #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.03b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509-943-3080 * Node 6 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1800 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/30/93 9:21a Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chuck! 28 Dec 93 06:46, Chuck Warren wrote to Boyd Goodin: CW> Got my copy in the mail yesterday....thanks, but I have a slight CW> problem. The shutter door on the disk was damaged making the CW> disk unusable. Could I get another copy? Also, when I received I had the SAME problem! the disk was damaged... Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1801 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/30/93 9:21a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 28 Dec 93 06:46, Chuck Warren wrote to Boyd Goodin: CW> Got my copy in the mail yesterday....thanks, but I have a slight CW> problem. The shutter door on the disk was damaged making the CW> disk unusable. Could I get another copy? Also, when I received I also had the same problem! Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1802 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/30/93 11:57a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > To the PLANET CONNECT poeple: > Insufficient Disk Space > ===== BECAUSE THE PEOPLE AT PLANET CONNECT ADDED ABOUT 20 MEGS ====== > ===== OF FILES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RUN. IT TOOK THREE EXTRA ====== > ===== HOURS TO GET THE FILES ON MY HARD DRIVE, AND THEN THESE ====== > ===== FILES CROWDED OUT ALL THE FIDONET MAIL, FILEBONE AND TIC ====== > ===== FILES, WHICH I ENDED UP LOOSING!!!!!!!!!!! ====== None as it gets re-transmitted? > Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet > net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our > mail. I think that most of your customers are FidoNet people or send > mail to them. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR OPERATION TO US IS THE > *(&*()&^& MAIL FILES. Secondary is the Filebone files. And least on > the list are a bunch of files that don't have any TIC files with them > that are placed AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST so they can effectively CROWD > OUT the files we MOST WANT!!!!!! Yes messages are the most important.. but I love getting all these files as well. I live in a small city of 50K and we have not been able to afford the long distance costs to carry the areas and files we now have!! I can't express my appreciation to PC for the job they have done. It gets to be soo childish seeing all these complaints ...whaa my tic did not arrive... I got too many files... I got I got.. I got... I manually go through the area on a regular basis and do house cleaning. This way I have a handle on what is happening. I do leave about 75 megs free on my mail tosser drive though. I learned a long time ago that you need the room. Even with land lines when I could not connect with my feed for a couple of days I would get that SOS in the middle of the night when I did connect and I ran out of room. > If you HAVE to place totally unknown files on the system and tie it up > for ANOTHER 6 hours, PLEASE place these files at the END of the run so > at least we echo coordinators get our jobs done. NOT EVERYONE is on a > network and can easily pull off files from a hard drive. Are you guys > trying to squeeze us little guys out of the BIG PICTURE, or what???? No they actually put US little guys back in! We would never have grown from 5 nodes to 11 in a month without PC and the low costs. Most people just could not afford it. > I had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough for all > the files that were sent down from the sky Wednesday. I for one do appreciate the files. I just have to remember to move them away from my mail directory so my mailer can do its thing. So Boyd, I just wanted to say keep up the great work!! And lets keep growing together. Who knows I may be able to add another line to my system because people are using it more and more. (I know this has been brewing for a while... sorry if I am off topic) --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 1803 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/28/93 4:28p Subj: WEATHER MAPS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On <27 Dec, 22:58>, JOE LYDA wrote to JAMES MORRIS : JL> Ya do a pkunzip *.arc it seems someone thought that a .ARC JL> extention on a .ZIP file would serve some good pourpose, I fail JL> to see their humor myself. JL> You might try PAK E *.ARC and see what happens too :-) <* Michael *> MRTG: The road to to success is always under construction.. *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* | Mike's Mansion | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/81.5 | Cooking Files & Recipes | BBS: (503) 760-3777 [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1804 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 4:05p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? They show ->up on the bird over this last weekend. ->2-BBS ->2-PIC ->2-WINDOW ->They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area. But ->they are not on the Filebone.Na list. Read SDNSYSOP if you carry it....they are SDN areas specific to the satellite! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BARR Number: 1805 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/30/93 5:34p Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Any Good or Bad News on picking up the RADIST file echo? --- * Origin: ** Digicom BBS ** 812-479-1310 USR 16.8-DS Evansville, IN (1:2310/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 1806 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/30/93 3:22p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudolf Rothemund wrote in a message to All: RR> squeeze us little guys out of the BIG PICTURE, or what???? I RR> had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough RR> for all the files that were sent down from the sky RR> Wednesday. Perhaps you should dedicate more space to such a critical application? Your suggestion to ensure fido mail files come close to the head of the list but your assumption that things will remain uniform is unreasonable. Good luck. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1807 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/30/93 11:51p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chuck, * In a message originally to All, Chuck Warren said: > Looking for some help. I currently have a 386dx40 that runs > 2-nodes > under DV 2.42. I have purchased LANtastic AI and a 386sx33 > to be used > with the SAT. What is the best way to set this stuff up so > that when > all SAT data is in, the 386dx40 can process it. I know there > are > problems with DV 2.42 being a server, so I'm looking for some > proven > methods! The one thing I will suggest to you is to upgrade your DV to 2.62, it will run as a server under AI or Novell Lite then... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1808 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/31/93 12:06a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Hey I appriciate all the .tics you sent out with the games. Only one problem with them. Ya forgot to feed them and the died befor they got here. My children apriciates seeing the games come in. What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone elces HD with them. Happy New Year and May the Year coming up be a bit easier on the hair color. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Sometimes you just have to say 'What the heck' --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 1809 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 8:00p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 2-BBS > 2-PIC > 2-WINDOW > They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a > "2-*" area. But they are not on the Filebone.Na list. I found a file in the SDN stuff that indicated that they were changing the area names no later than January 1. Those are some of the new names. <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK LONG Number: 1810 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/30/93 8:35a Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Chuck Warren said: CW> Got my copy in the mail yesterday....thanks, but I have a CW> slight CW> problem. The shutter door on the disk was damaged making CW> the disk CW> unusable. My Disk was the same way. I just removed the metal shutter. It is for protection only. Mark --- FastEcho 1.30/g * Origin: The Link BBS Node 5 Staatsburg, NY (914)889-8379 (1:272/46) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WROBEL Number: 1811 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/31/93 12:38a Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello David! > > 28 Dec 93, David Wrobel writes to Dennis Powers: > > >> You also need to configure Tick for a default of Passthrough so > when > >> RAID creates new areas it points to the passthrough area. It's a > >> balancing act between RAID and TICK. > > DW> Ummm... And just how do you get Tick 2.10 to do that ?!? > > Well... you don't. I mis-spoke myself and confused them with some > other software I have been working with. Sorry for the confusion. Ummm... Turns out that someone else responded to my message in NetMail instead of Echomail - They said you have to make them *ALL* passthru in order for Tick to 'ADD' areas as passthru when it autocreates. Still, this really isn't quite what we were looking for though. Thanks for the come-back. [ Dave ] --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The High Frontier RBBS / Holmdel, N.J. USA (1:107/605.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1812 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/30/93 5:56p Subj: 8086 REAL TIME CLOCK/CAL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > There is a "No-Slot Clock" that will fit in any 28 pin ROM BIOS > socket on your motherboard. The EPROM or ROM socket can have the > no-slot clock installed and then the EPROM or ROM piggy-backed into > the feed through socket. It costs $29.95. I had problems with a > Vendex PC that when we upgraded to MS-DOS 3.3 and added another hard > drive controller the built-in clock quit working properly. The > no-slot clock was a simple cheap solution to our XT machine's clock Boy does THAT bring back memories. I remember when I had an XT and AT's were just coming out and were the answer to everyones problems. I was tickled to death to install my noslotclock, in fact I routinely changed the time and date for about a month after installing it because it was so much fun to do and such high tech. Now I get mail via my own personal satellite link. I wonder where we'll be ten years from NOW.... --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1813 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/25/93 6:40a Subj: Fidonet NodeDiff.A58? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Something strang is happening.. Friday 12-24-93 I received NODEDIFF.A51 and a Tic file in the morning Downlink Only Problem is, that is the same NODEDIFF.A51 that was released Friday 12-17-93, this weeks NodeDiff should be NODEDIFF.A58 ?? but it's not in the UPLD.LST or CHECK.IDX Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1814 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 12/25/93 1:02a Subj: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! >> 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and >> 'round the atmosphere........ Can they be stopped TJ> Yep............ Tim Jacobs - Hmmm, missed this msg, Tim.... :)) Thanks.... Merry Christmas Cheers, Ervin ... A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1815 To: ALL Date: 12/24/93 9:23p Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No L>WildUUCP is working very well here, even tosses faster than >WildMail. Its been able to handle every type of Newsgroup packet >sent out by Boyd so far. Only one small glitch found with the >message numbering when imported into WildCat, and OCR is aware of >the oversight. Should be fixed soon. DL>Dean DL> * WCE 1.10/2034 * DL>--- WM v3.10/91-0052 > * Origin: The DataStream * Peoria,IL * 309-688-7713 H16/V.32b Agree. For the Wildcat sysops out here, give Wilduucp a try. I've been very impressed with it. The tossing speed is very fast and the setup is easy to follow. Mike --- þ QMPro 1.51 þ Your E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1816 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/25/93 6:47p Subj: Re: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Fred Seibel <12-24-93 23:54> Chuck Warren wrote: CW> -> Do ya have something or know of something that will CW> ->add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? CW> I personally use AllFix, but will try to work it up for Tick as CW> well. CW> Once I get some info on AllFix structures (?) then I will proceed. CW> CW> Merry Xmas CW> Chuck Hi Chuck, I tried your PCAREAS on my QUICKBBS AREAS.BBS file and it worked great.. Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1817 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/25/93 6:52p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Fred! -> -> 22 Dec 93, Fred Seibel writes to Chuck Warren: -> -> FS> Do ya have something or know of something that will -> FS> add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? -> FS> Right now, the only way I know of is to do it by hand. -> FS> Anyone out there that can point me in the right direction??? -> FS> I'm presently using TIC and RAID. -> -> run: "RAID AUTOCREATE" before Tick gets ahold of the files. -> -> Dennis Hi Dennis, We are doing that. Something seems to be amiss!!! Thanks anyway, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1818 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/25/93 6:53p Subj: AREAS.BBS & PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Do ya have something or know of something that will -> ->add new TIC areas as passthrough to a TIC CFG file?? -> -> I personally use AllFix, but will try to work it up for Tick as wel -> Once I get some info on AllFix structures (?) then I will proceed. -> -> Merry Xmas -> -> Chuck -> Thanks Chuck, I have gotten several tips. I'm looking at ALLFix and SEAL just came down off the dish. Since I use SQUISH, I'll look at that too. Thanks Again, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1819 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/25/93 8:28p Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> From everyone here at Planet Systems Inc., we would like to wish -> each and everyone a very merry christmas and best wished for the -> upcoming new year! Now I am off to take a well deserved day off! -> -> -> ...Boyd -> WORK!!! Back to WORK!!!! NO DAYS OFF!!!! :) Have a HAPPY AND A MERRY, Boyd. Take Care, Fred Seibel --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1820 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/25/93 8:33p Subj: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Not sure if anyone else saw this today or not. If it was just me, th -> got problems. -> -> PT exited after cycle completion at about 0740 cst this morning. It -> proceeded to go though at least two cycles without ever exiting. At -> 1500cst I called Jim to see if it was me or there was an actual probl -> said he'd check and let me know. I never heard back but at 1600cst, -> on it's own. I have thought it might have skipped exits before, but -> very it. This time I watched at least two cycles of the same files c AHHH !!!! So I'm not the only one to see that!!! Yup, had that happen here too. I finally brought PC down at at about 2pm eastern time, and forced a manual event. -> -> Is the exit signal part of a file? A filename? Or some sort of contr -> on the link? Is it easy to miss or possibly error out? Good question. -> -> Also, I've got about 26 orphaned Tic files left over. They were also -> the UPLD.LST, so something happened between you and the uplink. Luck -> were not anything I pass on so no great loss. I think that was mentioned a day or so back. Seems the TIC messages got "lost". Guess the bird did a back flip and the signal got sent toward the moon!! :)!! -> -> Merry Christmas.... remember, that's a holiday. :-) YUP! And the same to you and yours. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WHITT Number: 1821 To: GLYNN LITTLETON Date: 12/25/93 9:37p Subj: PC without Mulitask Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glynn! In a msg of <22 Dec 93>, Glynn Littleton writes to All: GL> Is anyone using PC without using a multitasker/network? My net I have used it under plain DOS & am running the current version under a network - never had a problem in either environment. I don't have any pointers to give you on plain DOS, as I had no troubles. I have run the software with both HIMEM.SYS and QEMM386.SYS with no glitches. GL> continually writting to the hd giving FrontDoor no chance, ie, GL> setting ticks 9 to 3 with FrontDoor in the foreground, it takes GL> about 30 rings before FD will even answer the phone :( I have always used 1 to 1 ticks on every system I've ever run DV on (including an old 286/12) without trouble. While I have never used the satellite software on DV, you will notice degredation when you take your performance away from 1-1 on anything running at or above 16mhz on many machines. Robert --- GoldED 2.31 * Origin: Live via Satellite from Powerline (1:3645/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1822 To: BILL WOLF Date: 01/01/94 12:31a Subj: DV Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Bill Wolf writes: BW>by stalling I mean that the software no longer is 'getting' BW>incoming data. However there is data coming in, as the data BW>light flickers as it should, and my signal is strong. Yep, Uart buffer overrun. You're running into a situation where interupts are being disable for too long. Try reducing, instead of increasing the write delay on your disk cache. Could be too much data is building up which keeps the disk busy too long. In fact I turn write caching off on my system handling the PC link. Didn't need it anyway. It's a shot. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 1823 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/01/94 12:37a Subj: disk space... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rudolf! Thursday December 30 1993 00:02, Rudolf Rothemund wrote to All: RR> To the PLANET CONNECT poeple: RR> Insufficient Disk Space RR> See this warning??? THAT is what my system told me today when it tried RR> to copy files from my hold directory to my tossing directory. [stuff deleted] RR> I had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough for all RR> the files that were sent down from the sky Wednesday. Just food for thought, at 19.2kb we could receive over 200MBytes each day. There wouldn't be any time left for repeats... so it isn't likely to happen tomorrow. 40MBytes just isn't enough free space. ttfn Robert --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Aether Link San Jose,CA (1:143/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1824 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 12:22p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Randy Blackmond to All <=- RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO RB> packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception problem, RB> but I requested one of the bad packets via landline from PC and it was RB> bad too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the RB> last four days and that's a LOT of mail to be losing... It's not just you - I've been getting the same thing. Hope Boyd finds what the problem is soon. -=- Craig. ... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?" --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1825 To: TONY HONAKER Date: 12/31/93 1:12p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Thursday December 30 1993, TONY HONAKER writes to RUDOLF ROTHEMUND: Hello TONY! TH> BITCH BITCH BITCH... Always something.... My net wants the files.. Not TH> the messages..If you only have 40 megs free then you almost have no TH> business being a NEC. What do you do when your hub went down for a day TH> or two??? Delete the messages??? This thing is going to get bigger so I TH> suggest you rip off a few files to free up some space or slap another HD TH> in the old box... When I joined PC I seen way beyond just that day and TH> made proper plans it.. Seems that you are the one that didn't make the TH> proper plans.. What you going to do when we get 50 megs of Usenet mail.. Please Tony, there are quite enough echos in fidonet where people are slagging eachother. Can you spare us planet connect users of the above sort of diatribe in just this echo? Please? is that too much to ask? If you want to insult the guy, netmail him, I'm not keen on seeing it here and I'm sure others arent either. Happy New Year, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 31 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1826 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/01/94 1:29p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [munch] > that we in net 2440 are using for mail is a 286 with a 105 meg [munch, munch] This is not meant as a flame. To be reasonable, the PC folks when announcing their service made it clear that they believe the hardware requirements were substantial. Indeed, the first msgs in TVRO stated you should have a 486 with 100 Meg FREE. Now that turned out to be too pessimistic and my 386/20 works fine with 65 meg devoted to the PC file flow. It takes religious maintenance, but then I'm the one not following hardware recommendations. If your mail processor said it needed a 386 to run adequately and you run it on a 286, discover the thing grinds for hours to toss mail, would you feel justified in screaming at the author of the software? Basically, we've been warned that the service is demanding -- either hardware or regular maintenance. So we really have no place crying foul. I do understand your situation, but perhaps you should be examining other solutions. If you would like advice on how to cope with such large volumes, I am confident there are many helpful people here willing to give some tips. Right off the bat, I'd suggest you stop holding files for *any* nubmer of days for file request on you mail server. Instead get some of the folks in your net to act as file hubs and move those files off right away. Let the files for file request and let the mail server, as the most important objective of your net (you said, not me), be clear. This is an administrative fix, but on a dedicate machine, it is almost certain to work. .glenn. --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1827 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 1:09p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Randy! In a message to All <12/31/93> Randy Blackmond wrote: RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO packe RB> lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception problem, but I reque RB> one of the bad packets via landline from PC and it was bad too! Is anyone RB> seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four days and that's a LO RB> mail to be losing... Randy to my knowledge, I have not seen any. But if it occurs as I kknow a manual pkunzip or even a pkzipfix and manual unzip will get the .pkt's out and they can be normally tossed, at least most of them. Might want to use a good disk utility and see if you don't have a flakey sector on the HD somewhere that when something is written to it goes ok but not when read from. Just a thought. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 1828 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 3:54p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* > FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled > reception problem, but I requested one of the bad packets via > landline from PC and it was bad too! Is anyone else seeing > this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four days and that's > a LOT of mail to be losing... Same here :-( <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1829 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 7:30p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Randy, * In a message originally to All, Randy Blackmond said: > I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the > 0000FFFF.* FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a > garbled reception problem, but I requested one of the bad > packets via landline from PC and it was bad too! Is anyone > else seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four > days and that's a LOT of mail to be losing... Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few others.... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE SHAPIRO Number: 1830 To: ALL Date: 12/31/93 6:10p Subj: Happy New Year Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wishing you all a Happy & Healthy New Year, one full of Pentiums, Gig drives, and moster modems. Steve - NEC 112 (and Magnum, too) --- Telegard 2.7.b7a Beta * Origin: -[The Dark Side]-[HST/V.32bis]-[(904)645-6293]- (1:112/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 1831 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/31/93 9:26p Subj: Idea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On <30 Dec, 21:31>, Bill Wolf wrote to All : BW> I'm still having problems with the pc software stalling under desqview. BW> Here is more of what I tried, and the settings: BW> BW> 486 dx2-66mhz running at 76mhz. 16 megs of ram. BW> 16550 UARTS on both serial ports. do you have external cache? if so, try disabling it and see what happens thats what the randomness sounds like to me .. a easy way to see if it's your Cache is fire up windows, go to the control panel, click on "386 manager" and change your virtual memory size.. if its you SRam (cache) it will freeze up! BW> If anyone can think of anything that I left out, or have ANY suggestions, BW> please let me know. I'm just getting tired of this stalling business, BW> and having to wait all day to receive all my files for the day, instead BW> of getting them in one cycle. what version of DV? <* Michael *> MRTG: True Headline: Tuna Biting Off Oregon Coast!! *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* | Mike's Mansion | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/81.5 | Cooking Files & Recipes | BBS: (503) 760-3777 [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1832 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/01/94 3:30a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet -> net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our -> mail. I think that most of your customers are FidoNet people or send -> mail to them. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR OPERATION TO US IS THE -> *(&*()&^& MAIL FILES. Secondary is the Filebone files. And least on -> the list are a bunch of files that don't have any TIC files with them -> that are placed AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST so they can effectively CROWD -> OUT the files we MOST WANT!!!!!! -> -> Gees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -> -> Rudolf Rothmeund, NC/NEC net 2440 Now I remember why I dropped FidoNet a year ago!!! Please Rudolf, speak for yourself! Fido is LAST on MY list and had VERY litte to do with my subscription to PC. The only possible thing I can think of that PC MAY have errored on, was perhaps giving us some advanced notice. HOWEVER, since the Bird CAN send about 160megs per feed, MOST of us realize the possibility of volume fluctuations. Next time, how about TONING it down a tad. Boyd and the folks are doing a DAMN good job, and remember, you can ALWAYS use the phone to grab your precious mail! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1833 To: TONY HONAKER Date: 01/01/94 3:36a Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> workstation.. Running dos 6.20 DV 2.60 Qemm 7.03 AE2 cards. System -> runs like clockwork... Hey Tony, how the Heck are ya? Anyways, just curious about the QEMM 7.03. Did you have to pay to upgrade from 7.02, which is what I am running now? If not, where can I grab it? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1834 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/01/94 11:44a Subj: 286.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Todd In a message to Jeff Cameron <12/28/93> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> Have you tried swapping the XT motherboard for a cheap (less than $50) 28 TL> motherboard? Do you know where I can get some of these? * WCE 1.10/2008 * If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 1835 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 01/01/94 6:58p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No boy i swear people assume that myself and the my nec are just bone heads the planet connect logs show message traffic of up to 200 messages per conference per day and yes we have sent out messages asking for one thing and one thing only! some echos listed on the backbone are not comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1836 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/02/94 1:38a Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO p -> lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception problem, but I r -> one of the bad packets via landline from PC and it was bad too! Is an -> seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four days and that's -> mail to be losing... -> I've noticed a few of them also. --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1837 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 01/02/94 1:42a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FS> I get about 14/sec now with a 3 meg hyperdisk. -> FS> I have to make up several complete duplicates of the -> FS> entire load. -> -> Why so many full duplicates? I keep a backup copy that gets zapped i -> after session ends. For my downlinks. I'm the Nhub for Net 107. I have two links that take the entire echo maill mess. The others take from 30 to 70 % -> -> Are you multitasking? If not, try bumping that cache up to 6 meg and -> it does. Or, try dropping it to 2 meg and creating a 4 meg ramdisk t -> dupe tracking files. Just be sure to copy the dupe files off to stor -> /A works good. I was using a 6 meg HYPERDISK, but SQUISH was making and entry in it's log that it didn't have enough memory. Have cut it back to 3 megs. Will see how that helps. Thanks for the reply. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1838 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/01/94 8:01p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Rudolf Rothemund to All *** RR> To the PLANET CONNECT poeple: RR> RR> Insufficient Disk Space RR> RR> See this warning??? THAT is what my system told me today when it RR> tried RR> to copy files from my hold directory to my tossing directory. Do RR> you RR> want to knop WHY I got this warning???? RR> RR> RR> ===== BECAUSE THE PEOPLE AT PLANET CONNECT ADDED ABOUT 20 MEGS RR> ====== RR> ===== OF FILES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RUN. IT TOOK THREE EXTRA RR> ====== RR> ===== HOURS TO GET THE FILES ON MY HARD DRIVE, AND THEN THESE RR> ====== RR> ===== FILES CROWDED OUT ALL THE FIDONET MAIL, FILEBONE AND TIC RR> ====== RR> ===== FILES, WHICH I ENDED UP LOOSING!!!!!!!!!!! RR> ====== RR> RR> Relax pal! My system also crashed because I wasn't expecting the extra programs but so what! I enjoyed the extra "bonus" of getting all those great Apogee games, and I'm sure my users will enjoy them as well. Sure, the mail was a few hours late, but then again I didn't bother reading the messages that told it was coming either. No biggie. I think if anything, we will see more stuff being added to the feed as the months go by....you will have to decide what you want, and make sure you have enough space to temporarily handle the feed while it comes in. I don't think it's fair to dump on the Planet Connect people for giving us a treat now and then...you never really have to worry about loosing anyting...its transmitted over and over all day and night. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1839 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 8:06p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Randy Blackmond to All *** RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* RB> FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception RB> problem, but I requested one of the bad packets via landline from RB> PC and it was bad too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad RB> packets in the last four days and that's a LOT of mail to be RB> losing... In a way I was really glad to see your message above, because I've had EXACTLY the same problem, and I now assume everyone else has too. I've watched as those packets get uncompressed and tossed, and some are due to failed CRC checks and there are several packets within the 0000FFFF.* packs that get screwed up when they encounter message that are too long, grunged, or with hex positioning errors. I haven't figured out yet how to salvage to rest of the messages in those packets when they get renamed to *.BAD....anyone have any advice? So if you are getting the same errors as I am, and we are thousands of miles apart I'd suspect the problem is at the origin point....not sure if Boyd has anything in place to check this before it gets sent up to the satellite or not?? Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 1840 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 01/02/94 2:00a Subj: Uucp And Pcboard Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> in the long run, but the other program will get you started to see -> what it is like and then PCB-UUCP has a conversion program to upgrade -> from it's competitor. Thanks thats very helpfull information.. Ralph --- QScan v1.04b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1841 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 01/02/94 3:38p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No JJ>Randy, JJ>* In a message originally to All, Randy Blackmond said: JJ> > I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the JJ> > 0000FFFF.* FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a JJ> > garbled reception problem, but I requested one of the bad JJ> > packets via landline from PC and it was bad too! Is anyone JJ> > else seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four JJ> > days and that's a LOT of mail to be losing... JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few others.... Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1842 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/02/94 5:46p Subj: Re: Binkley Die Hards Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Dave Osborne <12-27-93 00:13> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. BG> ...Boyd Here's the Latest release... BDOS_259.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.59 Wide Beta (DOS) BOS2_259.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.59 Wide Beta (OS/2) BWNT_259.ZIP BinkleyTerm 2.59 Wide Beta (NT) BKLA200I.LZH BinkleyTerm Log Analyzer v2.00i for 2.59 Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK NASH Number: 1843 To: ROBERT KOHLER Date: 01/01/94 9:33p Subj: disk space... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Just food for thought, at 19.2kb we could receive over 200MBytes each day. -> There wouldn't be any time left for repeats... so it isn't likely to happe -> tomorrow. -> 40MBytes just isn't enough free space. Hi Robert! Hmmmm.. I thought PC repeats packets every three hours. Using your numbers, that comes to about 25 megs. Am I missing something here? Rick --- WM v3.10/92-0440 * Origin: VALKYRIE BBS - (216) 674-0144 (1:2440/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1844 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/02/94 9:52p Subj: Idea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP>BW> I'm still having problems with the pc software stalling under desqview. MP>do you have external cache? if so, try disabling it and see MP>what happens I was orignally running Norton SpeedCache, and just today, switched back to Smartdrive. . So far it has been running fine all day. We'll see tomorrow morning. However the system really has slowed down, since switching back to smartdrive. It's becoming obvious that I will end up getting a dedicated machine, and some networking equipment in order to get this running flawlessly. Unless of course, there is a OS/2 version around the corner! MP>what version of DV? 2.40. The newer version has problems with RemoteAccess. Until they have been fixed, I won't upgrade. Take Care, Bill --- * Origin: UTI - Always on tap! 21.6k Dual (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1845 To: TIM DOWELL Date: 01/02/94 8:25a Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Same thing happened here and I'd like to get another copy also. > If ya want the old one back, just lemme know.... Mine was crushed too! I thought it was just an isolated incident but it looks like perhaps their local mail handling caused the problem. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY HONAKER Number: 1846 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/02/94 4:07p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As for being the NEC, the HUB computer is a dedicated mail system, -> and is the best that we can come up with. Who the HELL are you to te -> us that I have no business being an NEC??? Would you like to donate -> few hundred meg hard drive (half height would be nice) for us? Then -> could meet your humble standard of having the proper system for an NE Well just maybe you should get the net to buy a larger HD..As far as me picking in to get it.. NA If you can't think far enough ahead to see what was going to happen with PC, You would most likey see that even a couple hundred meg drive would not work.. Although I do see that your net might be a tad closer than this on.. I bought PC and I only pass one area to our NC,NEC. Seems like you got a hell of a race motor (PC) but just dont have a car body to go with it.. Well there is always next race season.Well maybe the NEC shot was cheap,I'll take that one back. So hope we all have an great year.. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0399] * Origin: (1:160/260) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX GUEST Number: 1847 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 3:01p Subj: No tic files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just looked in my inbound PC directory and find that I've gotten about 40+meg of files with NO TICS in the last few days. Anybody else having this problem? The appear to be mostly games. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Farther Along, Greenville SC, 803-879-7713 (1:3639/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 1848 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 12:46p Subj: Pkunzip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On <31 Dec, 09:17>, Randy Blackmond wrote to All : RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO what version of Pkunzip are you using? <* Michael *> MRTG: I Made A Mental Note, But Forgot Where I Put It ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* | Mike's Mansion | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/81.5 | Cooking Files & Recipes | BBS: (503) 760-3777 [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1849 To: EMMETT PERDUE Date: 01/02/94 1:37p Subj: Re: AREAFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Ken Kavanagh <12-26-93 14:13> Emmett Perdue wrote: EP> Thanks for the help Ken.....will let you know how it works out...it EP> may EP> be FREEMAIL causing the problem, there was not that much difference EP> in EP> your REC setup and mine....we will see. EP> EP> Emmett EP> MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 EP> --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 EP> * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * EP> (1:18/2) I have no problem with AREAFIX, and i'm using FREEMAIL 1.10 alpha-3 too.. the trick is to make too passes with freemail instead on one.. Freemail -ET -X -Q (Echo Toss) AreaFix EC Freemail -NT -X -Q (Net Toss) instead of the single pass.. Freemail -ET -NT -X -Q -+- Binkley 2.59wb Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1850 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/02/94 11:53p Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > would probably be good to repeat it a few times in a few seconds. The > repeats wouldn't hurt anything as it takes several minutes to recycle the > program anyway. Sure. The flag file is the UPLD.LST file but a very special one. It is alwas at the end of the cycle and I have the uplink program add a few extra things to the data-stram the the receive program recognizes and exits out. If you happen to get an error while receiving this file then you would not exit out as the program has to receive this file intacked before it will process it. Hope this problem has cleared up/ ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1851 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 01/03/94 12:07a Subj: Re: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Usually it is just the TVLISTING files. > Would it make sense to repeat them at the end of the cycle also? It is repeated. I have the queue at the uplink to basically be 2 cycles. I place the flag file at the last one on the first cycle. Then it repeats and I have the queue send out the tvlist and weather files before then next flag file. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1852 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/03/94 12:07a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 7:45 CST or 7:45 EST (It's GOT to be one of those two :) EST. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1853 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/03/94 12:08a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> thier stuff straight now eh? > Hollar at me if anything comes up to you from me that is unlisted. Naw. Once you got your UUCP site right everything was fine. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1854 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/03/94 12:10a Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thought I would pass this grimlin on to you. It is kinda like > one of my hard drives that run on smoke cause when I let the > smoke out of it it never run again. I would not know what caysed the problem with PCUTIL. Have to talk with John on that one. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1855 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/03/94 12:10a Subj: Re: Blank Descriptions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I noticed that some areas come in with blank descriptions with and > without tabs. Unfortunately this causes problems with the max bbs system. i have no idea what youare talking about. Could you be more specific? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1856 To: JIM WATSON Date: 01/03/94 12:12a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> No you won't. I got grecion formula 16 for Xmas. > BG> > BG> > Like that one do ya? Sometimes being a maritimer has it moments! ...bOYD --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1857 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/03/94 12:13a Subj: Re: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm also finally (maybe) ready to explore this TVagent. Is this > suppose to be "viewed" only on the receiving site via a "door" or are > the users suppose to D/L it/something? On the Boardwatch thing I am not sure. The tvlisting program will be avaible to your users thru us. They will download listings from you and us the tvagent program to view them. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1858 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/03/94 12:17a Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Don't see why this same thing wouldn't work on a dedicated > multi-tasking 486dx2-66. > What ya think??? Wellll like living dangerous? Asking me what I think? :-) To be honest I dont have a clue about desqview or any other multi-tasker. Got a copy of OS2 here sitting in its box. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1859 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/03/94 12:21a Subj: Re: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hmm..... for that, you will work 8 hours extra on Sat with no > additional pay!!! > Any further such out bursts, and to that rack with yee!!! Hay! Got Xmas and New Years off! My new years resolution is to not work more than 120 hours a week. That will give me the 48 hours on the week-ends to catch up on my sleep and get ready for the following monday. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1860 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/03/94 12:23a Subj: Re: Disk !!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I did get it to install on a system for > me, but I'd really like get one "intact". Ok I know this happened to a few. Everyone that got a damaged disk, please netmail me with your AD and we will send you another one. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1861 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 12:24a Subj: Re: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I know your trying, anything you can do would help. Well hope I took care of that. Mistake on my part. > Happy Holidays, What??? There were holidays? What holidays? Nobody told me about any holidays. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1862 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 12:27a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Coitenly, if it takes 4 tries to make that 19 second connection. > It seems to be a little better in the past couple of days. simulated wood> I removed a piece of duck tape I had holding the SA together. Maybe that did the trick! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1863 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 12:27a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. > Heyyyyyyyy, when you got the best, why switch. :-) Thats what I keep telling the boss. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1864 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 12:29a Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > got a feeling the flag file was just missing those days. Is it > identificable on the screen? Nope as it is the UPLD.LST with extra data that the software recognizes. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1865 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 01/03/94 12:30a Subj: Re: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > hardware/software for PC there was NO receipt. Could I get that too? Will do. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1866 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/03/94 12:58a Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet > net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our Now you need to know something about us. We have just as many systems out there that are not in fido as we do fido-systems. Do not think that we are only dealing with fido here. Do not think that every file around has a tick with it either. If you only have a 40 meg HD what if I got 40 megs of files here to send even with tics. What would you do. Blame us because your HD got full again? Besides what the *&&$#%$# are you posting this in here. You got a problem. Take it to netmail or the phone or the PCSITES echo. > mail. I think that most of your customers are FidoNet people or send > mail to them. THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR OPERATION TO US IS THE > *(&*()&^& MAIL FILES. Secondary is the Filebone files. And least on I dont see anywhere in the contract that MAIL files are the most inportant thing. > the list are a bunch of files that don't have any TIC files with them > that are placed AT THE HEAD OF THE LIST so they can effectively CROWD > OUT the files we MOST WANT!!!!!! This is the way it worked out. Please do not tell me what is most important and what is least. Everyone has their own thoughts on that. > I had 40 megs free hard drive space and it STILL wasn't enough for all > the files that were sent down from the sky Wednesday. Funny I checked it there was a little over 32 megs go thru that day. You should of had about 7 megs to spare. Why could you not say "hey Boyd look. The next time you send stuff can you put tics with them?". I would be more pleasant and willing to be more carefully. But to blame us because you do not have a big enough HD is like blaming Ford because your brake pads wore out after 50,000 miles. .....Boyd P.S. These are my own thoughts and do not reflect the views of P.S.I. --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1867 To: JEFF WARD Date: 01/03/94 1:00a Subj: Re: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've been meaning to let you know about this. I receive the disk with > TVAgent you sent out, but the shutter door was crsuh off of the diskette > itself. I'm able to run the disk, but it has no protection. Could I get > you to send another copy? I can send the old disk back if you wish. > Later! No problem. Now I wonder what the post office's machine looked like after spitting a few hundred of them thru. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1868 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/03/94 1:02a Subj: RE: PROBLEM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Questions: Does this warning feature work as described above? Is there > any reason why it can't display the expiration date right on the screen? > Was my expiration date truly the 24th of December? We will have it in a later version. It should do it 10 days before it expires. If it did not do it then it was not at the ten day limit yet. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1869 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 01/03/94 1:04a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I also had the same problem! Would you like another one or does this one work? ..Bpoyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1870 To: GARY BARR Date: 01/03/94 1:09a Subj: Re: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any Good or Bad News on picking up the RADIST file echo? Not at this time. I explained it all to the FND head of that area in netmail. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1871 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/03/94 1:10a Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone > elces HD with them. We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BIG mistake on my part. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1872 To: TIM DOWELL Date: 01/03/94 1:11a Subj: Re: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Same thing happened here and I'd like to get another copy also. If ya > want the old one back, just lemme know.... Ok... ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1873 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 01/03/94 1:17a Subj: Re: mail file order Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I see today that the Fido mail is at the head of the upld.lst. > Thanks! I do really appreciate that. It's nice to see all the Fido > mail files grouped together. > You folks for the most part do good work, and I do appreciate the > good job you do. If it weren't for Planet Connect, a LOT of sysops > wouldn't be able to afford FidoNet mail. Thanks! Now this is a lot nicer than the previous. I know you take this hobby serious but you must tone it down a bit if you want to get my full attention. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1874 To: PAUL GOULET Date: 01/03/94 1:19a Subj: Re: How do you... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there a file that I can FREQ that explains how to start a FDN on > Planet_Connect, that is not on the Filebone. Just send us a netmail with the area names and discription of what type of files you will be sending along with total monthly volume and I will check it out. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1875 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 01/03/94 1:21a Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's not just you - I've been getting the same thing. Hope Boyd finds > what the problem is soon. Yep DOS 6. Switched back to 5 and it seems to clear up. Also the bundles have been going out in a regular size fashion. Still have to wait a while and see if it chears up on this end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1876 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/03/94 1:24a Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO > ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE > SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help Most accurate way. Take the stats messages and it will list what was moving and what was not. That would be every area that we send. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1877 To: TIM BROWN Date: 01/03/94 1:27a Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few > others.... > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! My motherboard was made by Clinton Electronics! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1878 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/02/94 8:25a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Robert! RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. Isn't there Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my message bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellite to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep them from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelation knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps an error on my part. :) Thanks... ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -Bill Gates --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1879 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/02/94 8:34a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Randy! RB> any problems with dupes of any kind that I'm aware of. If you're interest RB> you can FReq the IMail package from me here at 1:381/70. Info follows: Thanks, Randy. See my post to Randy Hilgar. I am happy to say the problem took care of itself. :) ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * Heart to Heart in Di's Open Forum.... --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1880 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/02/94 8:38a Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John! JL> Hehehe...Yeah. I just wrote myself a simple batch file to run JL> two WCFF.CFG's to catch all the tics comming off the bird until I JL> come up with something better or Derek finishes v4.0. I had to do the same thing. Any word when v4.0 is due out? ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * ... Modems.....reach out and BYTE someone! --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1881 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/02/94 1:27p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Mcconnell wrote in a message to Ken Kavanagh: JM> boy i swear people assume that myself and the my nec are JM> just bone heads the planet connect logs show message traffic JM> of up to 200 messages per conference per day and yes we have JM> sent out messages asking for one thing and one thing only! JM> some echos listed on the backbone are not comming over JM> planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET JM> ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO JM> MUCH TO ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS JM> SUCH A LIST PLEASE SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can JM> help You would probably get farther with giving us a list of the echos out of the current FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO that you are not getting.....since we are supposed to be getting them ALL. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 1882 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/02/94 1:01p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the RB> 0000FFFF.* FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it RB> was a garbled reception problem, but I requested one of RB> the bad packets via landline from PC and it was bad RB> too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets RB> in the last four days and that's a LOT of mail to be RB> losing... Ditto I have been seeing the same problem with the same frequency. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1883 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 10:36p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Randy Blackmond writes: RB>I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* RB>FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception RB>problem, but I requested one of the bad packets via landline from RB>PC and it was bad too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad RB>packets in the last four days and that's a LOT of mail to be RB>losing... Sorry to tell ya, you got a problem on your end my friend. I haven't seen a bad packet yet. If you're getting Zip CRC errors you may have some bad ram. I just went through that problem a few weeks ago. I could unzip the same bundle on different machines with different results. Drow me nuts for two days. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1884 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/02/94 4:06p Subj: CRC errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Randy Blackmond writes: RB>I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* RB>FIDO packets lately... Randy, many apologies, you are correct. I have about 4 such files, they got stuck in the processing directory on the workstation instead of the server where they normally show up. Sorry for the confusion. It does appear like a CRC error on the archiver. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1885 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 01/02/94 8:18a Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> under DV 2.42. I have purchased LANtastic AI and a 386sx33 CW> to be used CW> with the SAT. What is the best way to set this stuff up so CW> that when You'll have to set the SX33 up as a server, and on the exit from PCTTMAIN (Errorlevel 100) created a semephore file like DOIT.NOW. have the nodes on the DX40 scan for that file across the network and if found 1. Delete it 2. Run PCUtils Checkx and port the new files over to the DX40 3. toss them on the DX40 PCUtils can be run on the fly from another node, I do it all the time John..... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1886 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/31/93 8:37a Subj: HINTS W/LANTASTIC AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > under DV 2.42. I have purchased LANtastic AI and a 386sx33 to be used > with the SAT. What is the best way to set this stuff up so that when > all SAT data is in, the 386dx40 can process it. Chuck, I run a '386SX with the satellite receiver and use PCUTIL to move the incoming stuff to the '486 Mail Muncher upon receipt of the "marker file". The -SX just goes back to receiving again. The Mail Muncher runs Qmail, crunches it all up, and moves the mail and files to the BBS, another '486 running 10 lines of TBBS and TIMS. That passes out the mail to my downlinks, including all files that they've signed up for via RAID, posts the files that I want on my own system into the BBS download areas, etc. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1887 To: GARY BARR Date: 01/01/94 1:23a Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Gary! 30 Dec 93 17:34, Gary Barr wrote to Boyd Goodin: GB> Any Good or Bad News on picking up the RADIST file echo? from filebone.na % --Nov 15 1993 % RADIST is a Private International File Distribution Network % Links are no longer into the filebone. % -- Nov 16th 93 % RADIst has elected to move off of the filebone from what I understand % as the result of a non response and refusal of John Souvestre feeding the % Satellite to respond to RADist's Originator and Coordinator to not feed % the file echoes to the Satellite. I am very disappoint in Radist and Ronnie Toth.. Thanks, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1888 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/02/94 7:03p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ÚÄJohn! ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ[See Below] 01 Jan 94 18:58, John Mcconnell wrote to Ken Kavanagh: JM> boy i swear people assume that myself and the my nec are just JM> bone heads the planet connect logs show message traffic of up to JM> 200 messages per conference per day and yes we have sent out JM> messages asking for one thing and one thing only! some echos JM> listed on the backbone are not comming over planet connect and JM> all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT JM> CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO ASK???? AND IF JM> THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE SEND US A JM> COPY. thanks to anyone who can help Consider it in 1:3621/1's netmail directory dude (people in TN need to stick together - no , not like the Georgia Family tree >g) FFID returns the following ErrorLevels and Verbage! FileType - Errorlevel EXE - 1 ARJ - 2 PAK - 3 LZH - 4 ARC - 5 ZOO - 6 ZIP - 7 Unknown - 8 NOT FOUND- 99 NO PARAM!- 100 It is real simple you can type in FFID 0000FFFF.SU1 and you will get the message of 0000FFFF.SU1 = ZIP .. but it returns the errorlevel of 7 to DOS - thus your batchfile can figure out what came in, and do with it whatever you need. Too many people keep getting so confused by the weather.arc etc. Here is something that will make it almost idiot proof (I hope). Its *FREE* - all I ask in trade is you try it out, if you know of any file id signatures not listed, then please pass it along! And if you are in need of any lil' utilities please send me netmail (with full details) of what you would like written... From the Nuthouse, OZZ --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: OTWS&C (1:18/201) and (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 1890 To: ANYONE Date: 01/02/94 4:29p Subj: PC service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone answer this? 1) What is PC sending out over the dish these days? It started out being Fidonet Backbone echomail and Filebone file echos - what else? 2) Is there any consideration of sending out Fidonet echomail more that once in a day (like refreshing the mail every 12 hours)? --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * H16/V32b (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 1891 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 2:59a Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I've been lurking in this echo for a couple days now. I'm looking forward to getting my own PC equipment soon so I can join in the FUN but I'm having a little trouble.... I ordered and paid in full for a C band receiver and software on the last week of November . The receiver arrived DOA so I returned it the following week. The last I heard from Dave Smith of Westonia Computer on December 20th was that there was a delay from the supplier and the receivers where on their way from Ottawa and should be in Toronto the following day. To date, Mr. Smith has been very helpful and always returns my calls but I'm getting a "little" nervous and was just wondering if anyone else out there is having trouble getting the Planet Connect equipment from the supplier in Canada. Hummm, maybe I should have gone with KU equipment? :-) Tim (hope to be connected soon) Bellaart --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary Alberta (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1892 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/01/94 3:16p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB>I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO RB>packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception problem, RB>but I requested one of the bad packets via landline from PC and it was RB>bad too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last RB>four days and that's a LOT of mail to be losing... Saw the same errors here... same errors in files freq'd to replace them. Boyd has a definite ongoing problem with the technical aspect of providing a reliable feed. There are obviously no integrity checks being performed on what's going over the bird, nor a valid contigency plan. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 1893 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 8:29p Subj: Echomail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm not sure how I'm supposed to tell my mail tosser (MSGTOSS) what address I am so the mail I get from Planet COnnect gets tossed to my system. And, do I send response mail back to planet connect? Also, if anyone else is using msgtoss, I'd sure like to see their config, and msgtoss.eid --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1894 To: STEVE PERLO Date: 01/02/94 12:56p Subj: 286.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> Have you tried swapping the XT motherboard for a cheap (less than $50) > TL> 286 motherboard? > Do you know where I can get some of these? Asean Computer Technologies Inc--(909) 598-2828 $45 for a 286/12 $55 for a 286/16 Top Data--(408) 734-9100 for info (800) 888-3318 for orders $63 for a 386SX/20 See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1895 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/02/94 5:42p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! 01 Jan 94, Glenn Vermette writes to Randy Blackmond: GV> *** Quoting Randy Blackmond to All *** RB>> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* I haven't had any problems with the arcmail bundles (0000FFFF.*). Check your end for copy errors, proper version of Pkzip (2.04g)...etc. GV> salvage to rest of the messages in those packets when they get renamed to GV> *.BAD....anyone have any advice? As for bad_bndl.000 files (bad *.PKT's) try this: ---------- J:\RBBS\DIR\FMS.DIR FIXPKT.ZIP 14038 10-16-93 MailPacket fixer FIXPKT5A.ZIP 15113 11-28-93 Bad Packet/Bad Bundle fixer It's pretty ruthless in it's operation but it does get most of the mail recovered. They are available for Freq from 1:141/1135 @ 28.2V.FC or 1:141/1136 @9600V.32 -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1896 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/02/94 5:40p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! In a message to Randy Blackmond <01/01/94> Glenn Vermette wrote: GV> *** Quoting Randy Blackmond to All *** GV> RB> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* GV> RB> FIDO packets lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception GV> RB> problem, but I requested one of the bad packets via landline from GV> RB> PC and it was bad too! Is anyone else seeing this? I've had 5 bad GV> RB> packets in the last four days and that's a LOT of mail to be GV> RB> losing... GV> In a way I was really glad to see your message above, because I've had EX GV> the same problem, and I now assume everyone else has too. I've watched a GV> those packets get uncompressed and tossed, and some are due to failed CRC GV> checks and there are several packets within the 0000FFFF.* packs that get GV> screwed up when they encounter message that are too long, grunged, or wit GV> positioning errors. I haven't figured out yet how to salvage to rest of GV> messages in those packets when they get renamed to *.BAD....anyone have a GV> advice? GV> So if you are getting the same errors as I am, and we are thousands of mi GV> apart I'd suspect the problem is at the origin point....not sure if Boyd GV> anything in place to check this before it gets sent up to the satellite o GV> not?? GV> Glenn Glenn what you are describing, is a Squish mail tosser, if so there was a file came over the bird a few weeks ago called FIXPKT5A.ZIP that takes those .BAD files and strips put those that offend Squish. If you don't have it it is availible for freq at the origin line address. Joe GV> --- GV> * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) * WCE 1.5/2107 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1897 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/02/94 11:47p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, * In a message originally to Tony Honaker, Tim Lajoie said: > -> workstation.. Running dos 6.20 DV 2.60 Qemm 7.03 AE2 cards. System > -> runs like clockwork... > Hey Tony, how the Heck are ya? Anyways, just curious > about the QEMM > 7.03. Did you have to pay to upgrade from 7.02, which is what > I am > running now? If not, where can I grab it? There are patch upgrades from 7.00 through 7.03. They are available from most systems in DVNET, from QOS's BBS, Compuserve, etc... The one you want is 702to703.zip John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1898 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/02/94 11:55p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John, * In a message originally to Ken Kavanagh, John Mcconnell said: > boy i swear people assume that myself and the my nec are just > bone heads > the planet connect logs show message traffic of up to 200 > messages per > conference per day and yes we have sent out messages asking > for one > thing and one thing only! some echos listed on the backbone > are not > comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT > FIDONET > ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO > MUCH TO > ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST > PLEASE > SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help It's been said numerous times by Boyd, verified by John Solveture ( sothern star ) that ANY traffic in ANY conference listed in the WEEKLY fidonet.na and .no files are sent to the bird. So I can only assume that either there is a PROBLEM at your system, or Boyd's, or that there is 0 traffic in the areas to which you are refurring. Might be a good idea to post of list of the areas YOU beleive to be NOT on the bird and see whats up... John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1899 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 01/02/94 12:56p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Foxy In a message to Steve Perso <12/29/93> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> Ola' Steve FF> You going to be able to come down Sat 8th for the noon Mediate meeting, FF> beer, and some of Mr Gatti's Pizza?? We've got that reserved room. I wish I could. We will have to change our dates somehow.. The local meetings here in C'Ville are also the first Sat of the month (excluding New Years of course.. Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * What are you doing?!? The message is over,GO AWAY! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1900 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 01/02/94 6:36p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Ola' John In a message to Randy Blackmond <01/01/94> John Johnson wrote: JJ> Randy, JJ> * In a message originally to All, Randy Blackmond said: JJ> Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few others.. Is that where the no traffic echos I'm getting are going? I've been trying to figure out what was up. I have several echos that I Know are active not making it thru to me. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hey Boyd got any ideas? BTW you are the second person to mention that Rush's echo has been squashed... Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * If I throw a cat out the car window, is it kitty litter? --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1901 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 4:17p Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/03/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Thought I would pass this grimlin on to you. It is kinda like BG> > one of my hard drives that run on smoke cause when I let the BG> > smoke out of it it never run again. BG> BG> I would not know what caysed the problem with PCUTIL. Have to talk wit BG> John on that one. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd Thanks and Happy New Year. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 1902 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 4:36p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them > over the sat. BIG mistake on my part. Make the same mistake again! My downlinks thought they were great. <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1903 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/03/94 2:33p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Saturday January 01 1994, John Mcconnell writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello John! JM> boy i swear people assume that myself and the my nec are just bone heads JM> the planet connect logs show message traffic of up to 200 messages per JM> conference per day and yes we have sent out messages asking for one JM> thing and one thing only! some echos listed on the backbone are not JM> comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET JM> ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO JM> ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE JM> SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help my oh my..with such a tone..what do you expect us to think you are? you ask newbie questions, we answer with newbie answers. John Souvestre has stated that the Planet Connect system is hooked up to every fidonet.na and fidonet.no echo..if such is not the case, detail a list of the echos you are seeing a lack of traffic in and forward it to Boyd. Post is here..give us an actual problem to help you with then you wont be treate like a... Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday January 03 1994 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1904 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 2:29p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Monday January 03 1994, Boyd Goodin writes to JOE LYDA: Hello Boyd! >> What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone >> elces HD with them. BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BG> BIG mistake on my part. Boyd, despite the initial shock of it all..(I've now prepared the system for larger than 20 meg dumps..kinda got used to them :) I do appreciate it and so have the visiting kids over the holdiday weekend theres some good ones in there..but i doubt I'll do very well with the vermont trivia program..where's vermont?? Happy New Year Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday January 03 1994 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1905 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:13p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/03/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone BG> > elces HD with them. BG> BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BG> mistake on my part. Na it is fine by me here cuz the descriptions were in them and the children love games. Keep on pumping em out. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Become a programmer and never see the world!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1906 To: RICK NASH Date: 01/03/94 5:23p Subj: disk space... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rick! In a message to Robert Kohler <01/01/94> Rick Nash wrote: RN> RN> -> Just food for thought, at 19.2kb we could receive over 200MBytes each RN> -> There wouldn't be any time left for repeats... so it isn't likely to h RN> -> tomorrow. RN> -> 40MBytes just isn't enough free space. RN> Hi Robert! RN> Hmmmm.. I thought PC repeats packets every three hours. Using your numb RN> that comes to about 25 megs. Am I missing something here? Na just get a couple of gig hd and give me one. If PC had a full feed, all it could transmit in 24 hours is somewhere between 150 - 160 megs of mail and files. Right now it is only sending files and mail (fido and other nets) but, sometime this week it will start transmitting Usenet which will be somewhere near 50 megs. With that 50 megs plus what we are already getting will be around 70 or so megs daily. That will allow only 2 cyccles and start the next day's feed. We are about to get need deep in it and all I can say is I am not quite ready yet but will be soon. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Bigomy: one wife too many. Monogamy: same idea. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1907 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:43p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Tim Brown <01/03/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few BG> > others.... BG> BG> > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! BG> BG> My motherboard was made by Clinton Electronics! BG> BG> If it is kin to slick Willey we are for one hell of a ride. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * DANGER! DANGER! Computer Store Ahead, Hide Wallet. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1908 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 01/03/94 5:45p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Diane! In a message to Robert Hilgar <01/02/94> Diane Summers wrote: DS> Hi Robert! DS> RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. Isn't t DS> Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the DS> impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my message DS> bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd DS> about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellite DS> to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep them DS> from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelation DS> knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps an DS> error on my part. :) Thanks... Diane permit me to but in her for a moment. The way a tosser works it Boyds tosser will toss to 1:3615/15 and his tosser will put in the Seen By line 3615/15 as having seen it. Whoever tossed to him would put 3615/50 in the Seen By line. Now when we get the mail it is tossed to 1:3615/15 and my address being 1:3622/1000 should have been in the Seen By but 3615/15 did not toss it. What the problem with my net is that I receive the mail from the bird and toss it using 3615/15 as an aka but my downlinks never get my address in their tossed mail Seen By line and it gets tossed right back to me. What I did was call the author of my tosser, a registered version, and he wrote me a special one that puts my address in the Seen By line and the dupe loop stopped coming back to me from my downlinks. Hope I made some since with all this. It is a problem that most tosser authors need to know about so they can do a simple check of the Seen By line for the node address and if not present put it there. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Documentation is for people who can't read. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1909 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:42p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Craig Clark: BG> Yep DOS 6. Switched back to 5 and it seems to clear up. BG> Also the bundles have been going out in a regular size BG> fashion. Still have to wait a while and see if it chears up BG> on this end. If you use DOS 6.0's EMM386, disable HIGHSCAN. It will usually include extra high memory areas, but on many machines it will include more than it should. In DOS 6.2, HIGHSCAN is disabled by default with EMM386. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 1910 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 6:24p Subj: Re: Disk !!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Fred Seibel: BG> Ok I know this happened to a few. Everyone that got a BG> damaged disk, please netmail me with your AD and we will BG> send you another one. Still waiting for the first one to arrive... It probably got caught up in the last of the Christmas rush of mail and cards. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1911 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:02p Subj: Re: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I'm also finally (maybe) ready to explore this TVagent. Is this -> > suppose to be "viewed" only on the receiving site via a "door" or a -> > the users suppose to D/L it/something? -> -> -> On the Boardwatch thing I am not sure. The tvlisting program will -> to your users thru us. They will download listings from you and us th -> program to view them. Ok Boyd, thanks a lot. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1912 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 01/03/94 5:05p Subj: WCFF and Big Config's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi John! -> -> JL> Hehehe...Yeah. I just wrote myself a simple batch file to run -> JL> two WCFF.CFG's to catch all the tics comming off the bird unti -> JL> come up with something better or Derek finishes v4.0. -> -> I had to do the same thing. Any word when v4.0 is due out? Derek said beta testing should start this month sometime. I wouldn't hold my breath though :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1913 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/03/94 8:47p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO p -> lately... I thought maybe it was a garbled reception problem, but I r -> one of the bad packets via landline from PC and it was bad too! Is an -> seeing this? I've had 5 bad packets in the last four days and that's -> mail to be losing... Yep! Same problem here. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1914 To: ALEX GUEST Date: 01/03/94 9:08p Subj: No tic files! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I just looked in my inbound PC directory and find that I've gotten ab -> of files with NO TICS in the last few days. Anybody else having this -> The appear to be mostly games. Yep! All games. Boyd was nice enough to pump all those out to us. They have .DIZ files so they're easy to slap right into your BBS. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 1915 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 01/03/94 1:55p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Diane Summers wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. Isn't there DS> Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow DS> gotten the impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come DS> back into my message bases that had originated on mine but DS> after talking voice to Boyd about it, he assured me it was DS> normal for systems on the satellite to see their own DS> messages again and there was not a way to keep them from DS> importing so I felt alot better after learning this DS> revelation knowing there is not anything wronmg with my DS> software or perhaps an error on my part. :) Thanks... I would like to nominate the above as 'The Longest single Sentence in a fidonet message' for 1994. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB SLOWINSKI Number: 1916 To: ALL Date: 01/02/94 5:26p Subj: Planet_Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Anyone have a file I can download to obtain further information about this setup, which would give me an idea of what I am looking at as far as equipment, needed, cost, etc. --- FastEcho v1.30g * Origin: -=Information Central=- Hermantown, MN (1:282/76) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1917 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 10:47p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sorry to tell ya, you got a problem on your end my friend. I haven't > seen a bad packet yet. If you're getting Zip CRC errors you may have Yeah, but when we all experience the same errors on the same files, more than likely, it's not bad RAM :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1918 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 10:59p Subj: New File Area Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I've just linked into a new area that the Support Site for Intermail has created. It's called IMUTIL and will be for InterMail utilities and such. Any interest in picking that up from me for distribution through the satellite? I know what you're going to ask, and NO I don't know how much traffic there will be in it because we are just starting it, but I don't mind feeding it to you :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1919 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 10:06p Subj: BAD MAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 0000FFFF MO1 19562 01-02-94 12:39p Guess what Boyd. This file apears to be an archive but it is a .PKT with an archice extention. Renamed it 0000ffff.pkt and it tossed like a champ. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * It's a great place, and the drinks are cold! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1920 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 11:05p Subj: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 03 Jan 94, Boyd Goodin writes to Dennis Powers: >> BG> Usually it is just the TVLISTING files. >> Would it make sense to repeat them at the end of the cycle also? BG> It is repeated. I have the queue at the uplink to basically be 2 cycles. BG> I place the flag file at the last one on the first cycle. Then it repeats BG> and I have the queue send out the tvlist and weather files before then BG> next flag file. You guys think of everything [smile]! -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1921 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 11:10p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 03 Jan 94, Boyd Goodin writes to JOE LYDA: >> What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone >> elces HD with them. BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BG> BIG mistake on my part. No it wasn't! IT was a nice Christmas present and a good lesson for those who are running their systems too close to the edge. The only thing I could (and don't) fault you with was prior notification. However You *DID* let everyone know. The vocal ones are usually the ones who complain. Don't let it get you down, and don't let it stop you from doing something like that again. Regards -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 1922 To: DIANE SUMMERS Date: 01/03/94 4:10p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the > impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my message > bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd > about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellite > to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep them > from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelation > knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps an > error on my part. :) Thanks... Well, there IS a problem if you are seeing your messages (again). What happens is that you mail goes ou on the satellite, and will come BACK to you (this is expected). However, there is some hidden information called a SEEN-BY line that should have YOUR node number in it. When you mail tosser sees this, it should realize it is a dupe, and not import it. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 1923 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 01/03/94 4:13p Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I ordered and paid in full for a C band receiver and software on the last week > of November . The receiver arrived DOA so I returned it the following week. > The last I heard from Dave Smith of Westonia Computer on December 20th was > that there was a delay from the supplier and the receivers where on their way > from Ottawa and should be in Toronto the following day. > > To date, Mr. Smith has been very helpful and always returns my calls but I'm > getting a "little" nervous and was just wondering if anyone else out there is > having trouble getting the Planet Connect equipment from the supplier in > Canada. We order a KU band setup from Dave, and it is up and running just fine. Hang in there - he will get you fixed up... >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1924 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:25a Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> ...Boyd What we were talking about was you sending the EOT file right after the echo mail files are finished comming down. You then asked what I'd like for fillers while I was procesing. I responded that my system would be back up and ready for the data stream in about 2 to 3 minutes. I shouldn't miss very much in that short a period of time. And besides, what I miss I'll pick up on the next send. The purpose of this is so that the mail processing system can get started on tossing and packing the mail while I continue to get the rest of the days filebone load. If I'm not clear enough on this, I'd be glad to call voice. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1925 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:27a Subj: Re: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Hmm..... for that, you will work 8 hours extra on Sat with no -> > additional pay!!! -> > Any further such out bursts, and to that rack with yee!!! -> -> Hay! Got Xmas and New Years off! My new years resolution is to not -> than 120 hours a week. That will give me the 48 hours on the week-end -> up on my sleep and get ready for the following monday. -> -> To much sleep time!!! All play and no work makes Boyd a dull programer!! :) hehehehe!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1926 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:54a Subj: Re: Disk !!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> > I did get it to install on a system for -> > me, but I'd really like get one "intact". -> -> -> Ok I know this happened to a few. Everyone that got a damaged dis -> netmail me with your AD and we will send you another one. -> -> In an armor platted envelope please. :) --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1927 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:30a Subj: Re: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I know your trying, anything you can do would help. -> -> Well hope I took care of that. Mistake on my part. -> -> > Happy Holidays, -> -> What??? There were holidays? What holidays? Nobody told me about a -> holidays. -> -> -> ...Boyd -> HAY!!! You just admitted to me you had TWO days off!!! You been hitting the cooking sherry??? --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1928 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:31a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. -> -> > Heyyyyyyyy, when you got the best, why switch. :-) -> -> Thats what I keep telling the boss. -> -> -> ..Boyd -> He thinking of getting a new programer??? ;)!!! OUCH, I felt that!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1929 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:35a Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> .....Boyd -> -> -> P.S. These are my own thoughts and do not reflect the views of P.S.I. -> Give 'em hell Harry!!!! hehehe --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1930 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:36a Subj: Re: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> No problem. Now I wonder what the post office's machine looked li -> spitting a few hundred of them thru. -> -> -> ...Boyd Sssssshhhhhhh!!! They might want to send you the repair bill!!! --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1931 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:39a Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few -> > others.... -> -> > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! -> -> My motherboard was made by Clinton Electronics! -> -> -> ...Boyd -> Pitty YOU!!!! --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1932 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/04/94 12:55a Subj: HINTS W/LANTASTIC AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Chuck, -> I run a '386SX with the satellite receiver and use PCUTIL to move th -> stuff to the '486 Mail Muncher upon receipt of the "marker file". The -> goes back to receiving again. The Mail Muncher runs Qmail, crunches i -> and moves the mail and files to the BBS, another '486 running 10 line -> and TIMS. That passes out the mail to my downlinks, including all fil -> they've signed up for via RAID, posts the files that I want on my own -> into the BBS download areas, etc. -> Hi Chuck!! Now THAT's what I want MY system to be when it grows up!!! Really, sounds like a GREAT setup. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1933 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 01/04/94 12:50a Subj: File for you... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Its *FREE* - all I ask in trade is you try it out, if you kno -> file id signatures not listed, then please pass it along! And if you -> need of any lil' utilities please send me netmail (with full details) -> you would like written... -> -> From the Nuthouse, OZZ -> Hi OZZ, Maybe you could get Boyd to send it out over the bird?? Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 1934 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 9:15p Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey boyd i talked to steve perlo and he said you two were talking and i think we are all on the same sheet of music now and we should have it fixed soon thanks for the help and you might get a sat system out of me when i move to hawaii this summer i love what you can do with it. thanks again --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1935 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 8:58p Subj: CRC PROBLEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sorry to tell ya, you got a problem on your end my friend. I > haven't seen a bad packet yet. If you're getting Zip CRC errors you > may have some bad ram. I just went through that problem a few weeks > ago. I could unzip the same bundle on different machines with > different results. Drow me nuts for two days. I unzipped the bad packets on two different machines, seperated by 4 years in manufacture and got the same results. Bad CRC. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1936 To: ALL Date: 01/03/94 10:29p Subj: FILES DELETE UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I use TBBS which has a feature to 'self-clean' psuedo file directories if a file does not exist. I'm posting all of the FDN's coming from the bird but filled up my 400 meg'r pretty quickly. I didn't want to have to manually kill of files fighting for space so I wrote a utility that will check for file dates in any number of directories (via a very simple config file) and delete any it finds 'XX' days old. Each entry allows a seperate 'XX' days old switch and allows one file (presumably a files.bbs file) to be protected from deletion no matter how old it is. The utility deletes the files and TBBS cleans up the files.bbs file automatically. This program is freeware for anybody that wants it by FREQing 'BYDATE.ZIP' from 288/6. It's still notated as beta version and will probably remain that way as it works fine for me as it is. This one is dangerous and I've shot my own foot off more than once testing it but it works fine for me now. Your milage may vary. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MORRIS Number: 1937 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:48p Subj: RE: SORTING Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Got a copy of OS2 here sitting in its box. > That sounds like a good place for it to me. }:) (ducking and rolling) James Morris --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The Computer Matrix - 417-862-8910 (1:284/29) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MORRIS Number: 1938 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:56p Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone > > elces HD with them. > > We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the > sat. BIG mistake on my part. I don't think it was a mistake at all. I have 1.8 gig of free space here and the users are going crazy over the new games. This kind of stuff should pull in all sorts of new users for me. Keep up the good work. James Morris --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The Computer Matrix - 417-862-8910 (1:284/29) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1939 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/02/94 11:24a Subj: CRC PROBLEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. I thought it was just me. <> When I spot the BAD_ARC.nnn (renamed in that manner by Qmail), I perform a manual PKUZIP BAD_ARC.nnn and let Qmail toss the resulting .PKT's. The "bad" one gets trashed, of course, but it's better than losing the whole thing. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10 lines, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 1940 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 5:02p Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I've been meaning to let you know about this. I receive the disk with >> TVAgent you sent out, but the shutter door was crsuh off of the diskette >> itself. I'm able to run the disk, but it has no protection. Could I get >> you to send another copy? I can send the old disk back if you wish. >> Later! > No problem. Now I wonder what the post office's machine > looked like after spitting a few hundred of them thru. Have you ever heard the expression "Used Can Opener Blade"?!?! Later and thanks! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 1941 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/04/94 12:36a Subj: Share the load... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! Saturday January 01 1994 13:29, Glenn Caleval wrote to Rudolf Rothemund: GC> Right off the bat, I'd suggest you stop holding files for *any* nubmer of GC> days for file request on you mail server. Instead get some of the folks in GC> your net to act as file hubs and move those files off right away. Let the GC> files for file request and let the mail server, as the most important GC> objective of your net (you said, not me), be clear. GC> This is an administrative fix, but on a dedicate machine, it is almost GC> certain to work. Even though I have been lucky and have the PC software running under DV, I learned this right away. Just as I brought up the satellite, my net's main mail mover crashed and I had to take on his load also. The first weekend I sat in front of this #&%^@# machine for 18 of 24 hours and pushed out almost 200Mbytes/day to others in my net. I now have 5 dedicated nodes who are acting as first line mail pushers and 6 dedicated nodes acting as file pushers... and they are the only ones allowed to get mail & files from me. The other 70 members of my net call them and not me! Robert --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Aether Link - San Jose, CA (1:143/143) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 1942 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 12:56a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday January 03 1994 01:10, Boyd Goodin wrote to JOE LYDA: BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BG> BIG mistake on my part. NOT at all! but the suggestion of a new rule (area) for goodies is a good idea. If you have any other goodies... let us know and blast them our way. ta ta for now Robert --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Aether Link - San Jose, CA (1:143/143) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 1943 To: RICK NASH Date: 01/04/94 1:18a Subj: disk space... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Rick! Saturday January 01 1994 21:33, Rick Nash wrote to Robert Kohler: ->> Just food for thought, at 19.2kb we could receive over 200MBytes each ->> day. There wouldn't be any time left for repeats... so it isn't likely ->> to happe tomorrow. RN> Hmmmm.. I thought PC repeats packets every three hours. Using your RN> numbers, that comes to about 25 megs. Am I missing something here? PC repeats when it runs out of data in the cycle... If they only had 100 bytes to transfer... there would be lots of cycles Boyd would be the best to answer this... but here are some examples of how data COULD be sent. assume normal async data = 1 start bit, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit i.e. 10 bits = 1 character sent. at 19,200bps you can get 19,200bps/10bpc = 1920character/sec * 60sec * 60m * 24hrs / 1048576 (bytes per megbyte) = 158.2Mbytes/day so in normal async serial mode they COULD send 158Mbytes/day (with no repeation of data, and no ability to correct for error hits) assuming sync streaming of data (i.e. strip the start and stop bits the numbers become 2400cps and 197.7Mbytes This won't happen here because that doesn't leave any margin for errors (signal drops out etc.) The simple approach to handle error problems is to just repeat the data stream as many times as they can in a day... on the assumption that any data receiption problems were caused by short interuptions so that one of the repeats should fill in the missing file. A more complex approach which would allow the provider to send more data is to use a time domain shifted error correction code.. this would allow the missing data (caused by for example a plane flying into your line of sight with the satellite) to be rebuilt on the fly and would allow them to send data without repeation. This is much more complex for the software to handle... and may never be used (or needed) here. The numbers above totally ignore all of the time required for datastream maintenance.. such as the errorlevel signal file, the headers for all files tranmitted etc... but that is a very small overhead, and I think can be ignored for discussio purposes.. The bottom line is, there is lots of spare bandwidth.. so Planet Connect can add many more data stream sources (fido, rime,etc) And as they do, the time between errorlevel drop outs will increase as the total amount of data transmitted increases... unless they decide to change their scheme for transmitting the errorlevel dropout file. I think I just saw Boyd say they transmit the file every other cycle. Boyd, how about having someone write up some inside details of how the signal gets from 3615/50 to us... and add it to your list in skydata/personal. (by the way Boyd, and all at PSI.. keep up the good work!) Robert --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Aether Link - San Jose, CA (1:143/143) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 1944 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/03/94 1:30a Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sat 01-Jan-1994 20:01 thus spake Glenn Vermette unto Rudolf Rothemund: GV> Relax pal! My system also crashed because I wasn't expecting the extra GV> programs but so what! I enjoyed the extra "bonus" of getting all those GV> great Apogee games, and I'm sure my users will enjoy them as well. GV> Sure, the mail was a few hours late, but then again I didn't bother GV> reading the messages that told it was coming either. No biggie. GV> I don't think it's fair to dump on the Planet Connect people for giving us GV> a treat now and then...you never really have to worry about GV> loosing anyting...its transmitted over and over all day and night. Well said Glenn, my system crashed too, but the "bonus" was well worth it. However, instead of griping about the extra data, I got a bigger hard drive for the machine on the network that grabs the mail. Phil Miller Net 2201 NEC ... If you don't care where you are, then you can't get lost. --- GoldED 2.41/Intermail 2.25/FastEcho 1.40/TAG 2.6F2c Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1945 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 8:29p Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Have you Done something to your D'Bridge?? Tonight I got this when Sending in a Nail Bundle.. + 03 Jan 20:23:57 BINK begin, BinkleyTerm Version 2.59 -uSoft8.0 : 03 Jan 20:24:09 BINK Entering POLL Mode * 03 Jan 20:24:13 BINK Processing node 1:3615/50 -- Skyboard : 03 Jan 20:24:13 BINK Dialing 10222-1-615-623-8203 # 03 Jan 20:24:25 BINK Ringing # 03 Jan 20:24:38 BINK Connect 14400/Arq/V32/Lapm 03 Jan 20:24:39 BINK Modem protocol negotiation filtered * 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK **ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEG 9/999.999) * 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 : 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK SysOp: **ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS from **ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Phone: 1-615-623-8203 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Flags: HST,CM,XX,V42.BIS ! 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Called 1:3615/50 and got 999:999/999.999 : 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Session method: ZedZap * 03 Jan 20:25:23 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 03 Jan 20:25:27 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 * 03 Jan 20:25:27 BINK Seconds: 46 Tariff: 25 Fee: 25 System: 999:999/999.9 : 03 Jan 20:25:27 BINK Poll completed : 03 Jan 20:25:43 BINK Executing keyboard shell 7 Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1946 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/03/94 12:09p Subj: Dongle Lock & Printer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to All: GV> Is there a way to let the dongle do its thing with the GV> printer plugged into it and with the power OFF? Pick up a data switch box (about 5 bucks) and run through it. Switch it to the setting without the printer and you don't need your printer on. When you want to use your printer just switch it to the setting the printer is on. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SIDNEY EGNEW Number: 1947 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 7:17p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the -> sat. BIG mistake on my part. Thanks for the files Boyd. It certainly was no mistake as far as I was concerned. I would appreciate you letting us know if you are going to send more than 70 MB so I can put a bigger hard drive on my receiving computer. Of course if you could cycle the flag file more often, that wouldn't be a problem as I have a several hundred megabytes free on other computers! Please send me EVERYTHING and many, many thanks! ..Sidney.. --- QScan v1.04b * Origin: Computer Solutions BBS * Hammond, LA * 504-542-7600 (1:394/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 1948 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/02/94 2:50p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > several packets within the 0000FFFF.* packs that get screwed up > when they encounter message that are too long, grunged, or with > hex positioning errors. I haven't figured out yet how to > salvage to rest of the messages in those packets when they get > renamed to *.BAD....anyone have any advice? I've had a few too. But none because of "too long" or depending what you mean by "grunged" (ie. not by the GMD definitions). The errors were clearly in the compression itself. I manually unpacked the bundles and tossed them. They tossed fine, except for the specific .pkts that had the CRC errors. Out of those I'd get a pile of gibble treated as netmail and simply delete them from my netmail dir. An examination of the netmail variants was not enlightening :-) --- GEcho/386 1.01+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1949 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/03/94 2:59p Subj: Pkunzip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RB>> I've been getting PKUNZIP CRC errors on alot of the 0000FFFF.* FIDO MP> what version of Pkunzip are you using? 2.04G. I've eliminated the possibility that it was anything on my end... plus the fact that I'm far from being the only one who is experiencing this... In fact, I don't see how it's possible that _everyone_ hasn't seen this since the packets were coming off of PC in this state. I haven't seen it happen in the last couple of days so maybe the problem's been fixed... --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * El Paso,TX * 915-587-6321 (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1950 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/03/94 9:35p Subj: CRC errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> Randy, many apologies, you are correct. I have about 4 such files, they DO> got stuck in the processing directory on the workstation instead of the DO> server where they normally show up. Sorry for the confusion. It does No problem... I did alot of checking on my end before coming to the conclusion that they were bad from the source. After downloading a packet via landline that contained the same CRC error in the same file, I knew I was ok... Looks like Boyd found the problem (DOS 6). I hear from reliable tech people that if you want to go with DOS above 5.0, stick with PC-DOS and avoid MS-DOS. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * El Paso,TX * 915-587-6321 (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1951 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 1:24a Subj: Tics or not... send 'em Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. BIG mistake on my part. I appreciated all the games (files) you sent out over the satellite. Just wanted you to know. That was a great way to receive new files for the BBS users to download for the Christmas holidays. I think you're doing a great job. Thanks for all you do to keep Planet Connect running. * 1st 1.10 #310s * Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1952 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 01/04/94 4:26p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Lance Taylor-Warren wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: LT> i've got GIGO available for download, although I can't run LT> it as it requires a 386 and I'm running on a 286 at the LT> moment. GIGO looks like it could be a nive little program. LT> It's is very similar to Fredgate but takes the addressing of LT> mail (email) a bit differently and in some cases better. Thanks for the info Lance. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1953 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 01/04/94 4:29p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RH> I have just tried what you and the others suggested. I must RH> say, the results ARE incredible! Thanks! RM> Welcome! Glad to help out. Something I'm playing with is RM> preprocessing the packets: sorting them by area tags. I am now using pktsort. (An excellant program). Currently, I use No ramdrive. I have hyperdisk with staged writed (2megs). Buffers set to 10 and files set to 30. I am now averaging 54 messages a second. I feed about a dozen downlinks. I feel this is good. I can process a full days feed here (Let's say 30,000 messages approx. 30-35 uncompressed megs) in 9 minutes. Can anyone suggest a way to beat that? I don't remember who it was that stated they were getting 183 messages per second but that would be 2.7 minutes! Can this be? I thought my 9 minutes was good! Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK DAVIS Number: 1954 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/30/93 1:08a Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> JL> I already have that file and it will do it, however the user DP> JL> has to download the icons to view them so I see no improvement DP> JL> there ether. I guess it will be sometime before someone figures DP> JL> out how to convert .pcx to .rip. DP>Considering that PCX format is Bitmapped and RIP format is Vector graphics t DP>conversion is not easy. (RIP Icons are Bitmaped) There's a utility that will convert a .wmf to a rip screen, might just have to go from .pcx to ? to .wmf to rip... Haven't had the time to actually mess with it, but believe me, it's on the back burner... * QMPro 1.51 * The only Window is an X window! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0097] * Origin: EXOTICA'S PETS & STUFF-CRYSTAL RIVER,FL- (1:3653/66) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 1955 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/04/94 1:22p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 03-Jan-1994 14:13 thus spake Fred Seibel unto Glenn Caleval: FS> When the EOT signal comes down, it moves everything to FS> the server, which has 637megs on it. Takes maybe 2 or FS> 3 minutes, and most of that isn't LAN time, it's FS> PCUTIL ect cleaning up the PC hard drive. I could never get PCUTIL to work, so i wrote my own. Usually takes about 1 seconds to clean everything up, unless PC send more than average, then it takes 2 seconds. ... Have the computer beep me, when it is ready. --- GoldED 2.41/Intermail 2.25/FastEcho 1.30g/TAG 2.6F2c Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PHIL MILLER Number: 1956 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/04/94 1:32p Subj: Re: New File Area Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Mon 03-Jan-1994 22:59 thus spake Todd Lyons unto Boyd Goodin: TL> Boyd, I've just linked into a new area that the Support Site for Intermail TL> has created. It's called IMUTIL and will be for InterMail utilities and TL> such. Any interest in picking that up from me for distribution through the TL> satellite? That would be great. Hope you and Boyd can work things out.. ... If I'd miss you when you're gone - would you leave now? --- GoldED 2.41/Intermail 2.25/FastEcho 1.30g/TAG 2.6F2c Beta * Origin: NET 2201 Echo Operations (Fidonet: 1:2201/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK GUSTAFSON Number: 1957 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 5:38p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Joe Lyda <=- BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the BG> sat. BIG mistake on my part. BG> BG> ...Boyd Not a mistake as far as this net is concerned! Many of us here were glad to see them. ... Clinton excuse #15: Hey - I just do what the wife says. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- T.A.G. 2.6f1 Standard * Origin: Charlie's Corner - Schoolcraft, MI (1:2201/33) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID.E SMITH Number: 1958 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 01/03/94 6:13p Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Tim (hope to be connected soon) Bellaart Was shipped Via Purolator Dec 29 W.B.# 509246997 Hope this helps, sorry for the delay. Dave --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Westonia BBS Weston, Ontario, Canada (416)241-1981 (1:250/636) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1959 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/04/94 5:07p Subj: CRC PROBLEMS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> When I spot the BAD_ARC.nnn (renamed in that manner by Qmail), I perform a JD> manual PKUZIP BAD_ARC.nnn and let Qmail toss the resulting .PKT's. The JD> "bad" one gets trashed, of course, but it's better than losing the whole JD> thing. That's what I've been doing too. I wrote a little tester to run before my tosser gets a hold of the inbounds and if the file is bad, the tester will move it to a holding directory and I can then go in later and see what I can salvage manually. I sure hope this problem gets fixed soon. I thought it was, but I got a bad packet yesterday and another today... --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * El Paso,TX * 915-587-6321 (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1960 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 3:59a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over > the sat. BIG mistake on my part. NO it wasn't a big mistake Boyd! There are a good number of us who definitely appreciate the extra files and the work that you are doing. Your service is still very new and it is bound to go through some growing pains. I think you all are doing an EXCELLENT job despite what a few others have said. I think if the people who are satisfied with the job you are doing would speak up, the sound would be deafening compared to the few squeaks you've heard in complaints. I think the suggestion that someone made about setting up your own file area with perhaps an accompanying rulebase would solve any problems for smaller systems. They could "rulebase" the area to NUL and wouldn't have to worry about the extra files. Meanwhile the rest of us could enjoy all the great additional files you've been sending. Keep up the good work and please continue to send any files of interest that you may find!!! Fill my hard drives! I dare ya!!! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 1961 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/30/93 11:09a Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Diane! -> -> In a message to Robert Hilgar <01/02/94> Diane Summers wrote: -> -> DS> Hi Robert! -> -> DS> RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. -> -> DS> Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the -> DS> impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my messag -> DS> bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd -> DS> about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellit -> DS> to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep t -> DS> from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelati -> DS> knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps -> DS> error on my part. :) Thanks... -> -> Diane permit me to but in her for a moment. The way a tosser -> works it Boyds tosser will toss to 1:3615/15 and his tosser will -> put in the Seen By line 3615/15 as having seen it. Whoever -> tossed to him would put 3615/50 in the Seen By line. Now when we -> get the mail it is tossed to 1:3615/15 and my address being -> 1:3622/1000 should have been in the Seen By but 3615/15 did not -> toss it. What the problem with my net is that I receive the mail -> from the bird and toss it using 3615/15 as an aka but my -> downlinks never get my address in their tossed mail Seen By line -> and it gets tossed right back to me. What I did was call the -> author of my tosser, a registered version, and he wrote me a -> special one that puts my address in the Seen By line and the dupe -> loop stopped coming back to me from my downlinks. -> -> Hope I made some since with all this. It is a problem that most -> tosser authors need to know about so they can do a simple check -> of the Seen By line for the node address and if not present put -> it there. Hi, Joe... saw and responded to a similar message from you in WILDCAT, and since I see you saying the same thing here, can only assume that you DO have the aka wrong in your setup.... you should have an aka of 1:3615/51, NOT 1:3615/15.... ^^ ^^ Not even WILDMAIL will work properly with the wrong aka in there (g)... cheers.. Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1962 To: ALL Date: 01/05/94 12:01a Subj: BBSList FDN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! The BBSList is a fairly new FDN that is now carried on Planet Connect. If you are or know an author of a BBSlist and wish to have it distributed I'm here it help. ==================== Introduction to the BBSList FDN: The BBSList FDN has been established for the Distribution of compiled Telephone lists of BBS systems from around the world. It is linked to systems world wide and is still growing. The BBSList FDN is currently listed in the Filebone.Na and is also being distributed via Satellite. % % FDN: BBS - BBS Telephone Listings File Distribution % HeadQuarters: Dennis Powers, 1:141/1135 & 1:141/1136 % Info File: BBSL_KIT.ZIP % SysOp Conferences: BBSList_Cord % On Planet Connect: In Process Area BBSL_ADM 0 &* BBSLIST: Admin File echo to Up-link (pass through) Area BBSL_ASI 0 . BBSLIST: Asia & SE Asia Area BBSL_AUS 0 . BBSLIST: Australia, New Zealand Area BBSL_CAN 0 . BBSLIST: Canada Area BBSL_EUR 0 . BBSLIST: Europe Area BBSL_INT 0 . BBSLIST: Other International sites Area BBSL_MIS 0 . BBSLIST: Miscellaneous and BBS info Area BBSL_REG 0 . BBSLIST: US Local and Regional level Area BBSL_ST 0 . BBSLIST: US State level Area BBSL_USA 0 . BBSLIST: United States % If you are or know an author of a BBSList or have a BBSlist program that is of interest and is shareware or public domain, and would like to have it distributed, please contact: Dennis Powers BBSList Coordinator BBS: 1:141/1135 [V.32] (203)879-7122 1:141/1136 [V.32] (203)879-6254 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 6028 Wolcott, Ct 06716 I'll be glad to pick your file up, or help you get it distributed via one of the BBSList FDN areas. You may also call The Uncanny - X - Board BBS and log in as: First Name: Guest Last Name : User Password : 123 And either Upload a file/program for distribution (please include personal information with the file) or download any of the files distributed through the BBSList FDN.. If you'd like more information regarding the policy of the BFDS, or are interested in getting a feed to these areas for your BBS, please File Request or download BBSL_KIT.ZIP for the current BFDS Policy from the Coordinator at 1:141/1135 Dennis Powers, BBSList Coordinator ============== --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROCKY HURLEY Number: 1963 To: ALL Date: 01/01/94 10:40p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Hate to do this Boyd... But did you get this? Cya, Rocky/2 --- timEd/2-B10 * Origin: The New Moon Research Group/2 BBS (1:3648/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1964 To: ALL Date: 01/04/94 5:32a Subj: QWK Nets. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ÚÄAll! ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ[See Below] Well, its finally leaving my desk to the 1st ALPHA test Site. QWK<->GATE It will read MESSAGES.DAT (nothing else needed), a CFG file for the currently processed MESSAGES.DAT and writes out: JAM, SQUISH, HUDSON, *.MSG, EZYCOM (Next Release will Support PCBoard & GoldBase) If you have been struggling too with these QWK nets, this will be the best solution around! I have spent 3 months testing and developing this puppy! It works GREAT! Its Fast, and works very modular (that way if it dies you can resume from where it left off!) QWK<->GATE also converts any of the above formats to one of the others! QWK<->GATE eventually will have internal support for *.PKT format, at that point I will incorporate my (testing) NEWSGRPS to PKT interface, and one package will do the mail in all those different directions! If you are intersted in QWK<->GATE it will not have a SHAREWARE KEY (probably ever (due to the work I have had to put into this)). It will be selling for $150.00 and that will include 2 major revisions free! All bug fixes will always be free! Send netmail to one of the addresses below for ordering form... Please Specify it is in reference to QWK<->GATE...thanks! And if you haven't played with RTP yet - you are missing the best TIC processor released so far... If you are running RTP.EXE or RTP_OTW.EXE, I have just released (jan 2nd) to the ALPHA testers the newest revision: TICPRO1.EXE - this version is about 1/2 the size, and does many new features. I took out all the double,double,double error checking, and have added some areafix still commands to it (that no other TIC processor supports (YET!)). From the Nuthouse, OZZ --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: OTWS&C (1:18/201) and (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1965 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/04/94 3:47p Subj: File for you... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ÚÄFred! ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ[See Below] 04 Jan 94 00:50, Fred Seibel wrote to Ozz Nixon: ->> Its *FREE* - all I ask in trade is you try it out, if ->> you kno file id signatures not listed, then please pass it ->> along! And if you need of any lil' utilities please send me ->> netmail (with full details) you would like written... From the ->> Nuthouse, OZZ FS> Hi OZZ, FS> Maybe you could get Boyd to send it out over the bird?? ! Boyd and I have spoken about me releasing my shareware/freeware over the DISH. I am working on writing my own TIC processor - its done for inbound, but I am working on the outbound routines. Hope to have it done this month, and in doing so I will start shooting many neat toys up to us! I am finishing up a killer TOSSER I designed, and with it I will be sending my toys to BOYD from then on! (The Tosser Supports: QWK, SDM (*.MSG), HUDSON, JAM, SQUISH, EZYCOM) - Soon (*.BAG, *.PKT, MSGS.* (PCBoard).) and any direction there of. So people can take say, EZYCOM to *.BAG, or PCBOARD to JAM etc. The future goal is to take anyones mail for other nets (mainly QWKNets and Internet) shoot them to me, and I will do the uplink for all of us (probably via a local INTERNET system or via Bob Oyler @ Databanks). From the Nuthouse, OZZ --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: OTWS&C (1:18/201) and (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1966 To: ALL Date: 01/04/94 8:38p Subj: Tic DONE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ÚÄAll! ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ[See Below] Well after scrapping the RTP project, and starting the new toy: (TIC Professional) Version 0.01g It is finally DONE, and yes - If forwards out the TICs finally! [Screen Capture during Process] TK223915.TIC TIC SIZE:1846 Z:\D-DRIVE\SKYDATA\NETFILE\TK223915.TIC ----------------INFORMATION---------------- Area ECHOLIST Origin 1:266/71 From 1:3615/50 File ELDAT401.LZH Desc EchoList Raw Data Files (01/01/94) CRC FF40642F Created by TICK v2.10 (C) Copyright Barry Geller - 1988,1989,1990,1991,1992 Exporting File into Announcement File(s) Verifying: Z:\D-DRIVE\SKYDATA\NETFILE\ELDAT401.LZH,{Announcing} Importing File in BBS Listing(s) Conference #0, D:\RECENT2\DIR. MOVE Z:\D-DRIVE\SKYDATA\NETFILE\ <--FROM -- TO--> D:\RECENT2\ {*} DEFAULTING TO COPY & PURGE MODE (MOVING ACROSS DRIVES CAN NOT BE DONE!) ÚÄIN:Z:\D-DRIVE\SKYDATA\NETFILE\ELDAT401.LZH ÃÄOUT:D:\RECENT2\ELDAT401.LZH ÀÄÄÄÄCopying 330483 bytes... using a 35000 byte buffer Copied & Purged Exporting to: [No Downlinks] As a few of you that helped me test RTP can see, its nothing like the old toy RTP was. It is a little bit slower, but has many new features now! Auto-Detection if MOVE was selected, and the destination is across drive letters, it auto-switches to COPY & PURGE mode using an internal 35k copy buffer! Announcement files area generated in 66 line length (for printer use), and I added the option if an INTRO.HDR text file exists in the current directory that TEXT will be the header of your announcement file! Announcement Form Macro's are not ready yet! Message Bases Support for Announcement (AUTO-IMPORT): {Optional} SQUISH, JAM, HUDSON, SDM (*.MSG), EZYCOM. Files.BBS formats supported: RA/QBBS Clones, PCBoard, TBBS Supports TIC(in) TIC(out), or TIC(in) RTP(out). TESTING w/ Planet_Connect (Hatch Routines). Logging now tracks the basics: (Future version may go mroe detailed). Date, Time, TIC Processed RINO_TIC.CFG now gets compiled (or sylted (sp?) like Maximus does!) RTP.EXE was 39k and the current version of TICPRO1.EXE is 102k - and does more! Full multi-node support, File-Sharing/Locking. Supports running under DesqView, OS/2 (DOS Window), Windows 3.x & 4.x. If you are interested in trying it out, send netmail to 1:18/201.0 in reference to TICPRO1.EXE this is not a shareware release - its a drop dead GAMMA! From the Nuthouse, OZZ --- GoldED/P32 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: OTWS&C (1:18/201) and (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1967 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 01/04/94 1:03p Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > to use on your board. It would behoove Mr. Toth to reconsider....... Mrs. Toth. Ronnie is short for Veronica :) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1968 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/04/94 1:09p Subj: BAD MAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 0000FFFF MO1 19562 01-02-94 12:39p > Guess what Boyd. This file apears to be an archive but it is a > .PKT with an archice extention. > Renamed it 0000ffff.pkt and it tossed like a champ. I didn't even pay attention if it tossed, but I changed the extension too :) see ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1969 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 01/03/94 11:57p Subj: Re: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Tim Bellaart to All *** TB> The last I heard from Dave Smith of Westonia Computer on December TB> 20th was TB> that there was a delay from the supplier and the receivers where TB> on their way TB> from Ottawa and should be in Toronto the following day. TB> TB> To date, Mr. Smith has been very helpful and always returns my TB> calls but I'm TB> getting a "little" nervous and was just wondering if anyone else TB> out there is TB> having trouble getting the Planet Connect equipment from the TB> supplier in TB> Canada. TB> TB> Hummm, maybe I should have gone with KU equipment? :-) TB> TB> Tim (hope to be connected soon) Bellaart Hi Tim, Don't think you have anything to worry about. I got my stuff via Dave at Westonia, and can't say enough about the service he gave me. I too had a bad receiver, and had a new one on my door step withing 36 hours. If there is a delay I can almost assure you that it is beyond Dave's control....hell the guy must sleep at Westonia...I called there one Sunday night at around midnight Eastern time, expecting to leave a message...and Dave answers! Hang in there...I'm sure it will work out. And for what it's worth, I got a Ku System...works great here. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1970 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 01/04/94 6:21a Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ken! 03 Jan 94 18:48, Ken Jackson wrote to Brian Hess: KJ> Brian-- BH>> I am very disappoint in Radist and Ronnie Toth.. KJ> are good and that you want to use on your board. It would behoove KJ> Mr. Toth to reconsider....... Ms. Toth.... She very nice person to talk to voice... I am sure she has her reasons.. But i Do not Agree with the end action at All! Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AARON CRUEY Number: 1971 To: SHANNON CRUEY Date: 01/07/94 11:44a Subj: That Guy in Australia Refer: 288 Read: NO Private: No Yeah.. actually I did. I had totally forgotten about that. Anyway ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY PRESSON Number: 1972 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 01/04/94 4:29p Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ken Jackson to Brian Hess <=- BH> I am very disappoint in Radist and Ronnie Toth.. KJ> Really. Me, too! I swear, if I hadn't already registered RA, I most KJ> likely would change bbs software. I think it's really, really, REALLY Might I suggest the ORIGINAL, QuickBBS? KJ> dumb to do this to RADIST and the filebone. It's a pain in the keester KJ> to have to hunt around for RA utilities that are good and that you KJ> want to use on your board. It would behoove Mr. Toth to ^^--- Uh...Ronnie is a Ms. KJ> reconsider....... ... via Blue Wave 2.12 --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN ALLEN Number: 1973 To: TOM JONES Date: 12/16/93 5:37p Subj: Re: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As I -> write this, it is raining and the wind is gusting to 47 MPH -> and I have had no errors since around 10am (it is now about -> 8pm). Well as far as the wind goes I have had winds up to 97 MPH and the Ku system stayed in place... John --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: ARID ACRES * TRI-CITIES * (1:3407/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1974 To: PHIL MILLER Date: 01/05/94 10:50p Subj: New File Area Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> has created. It's called IMUTIL and will be for InterMail utilities > TL> such. Any interest in picking that up from me for distribution through > > That would be great. Hope you and Boyd can work things out.. I'm working on it! > ... If I'd miss you when you're gone - would you leave now? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1975 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/05/94 10:34p Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Boyd In a message to John Mcconnell <01/03/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO BG> > ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE BG> > SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help BG> BG> Most accurate way. Take the stats messages and it will list what was m BG> and what was not. That would be every area that we send. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd Would like to make an aplogy to all... The problems in the 3621 net were self induced (aren't they always?) after three calls to my Tosser Author I got it streightened out! (well how to fix it not what was happening) Thanks for everyones patients on this one.. Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * Why isn't there another word for thesaurus? --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1976 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/05/94 10:43p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Greg In a message to John Mcconnell <01/02/94> Greg Shaffer wrote: GS> You would probably get farther with giving us a list of the echos out of GS> current FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO that you are not getting.....since we a GS> supposed to be getting them ALL. The problem is fixed.. Wish more folks would have offered ideas (like your's) instead of saying.. Get real you worthless $%^&*#@ if you can't figure it out on your own you have no business in FIDO. Thanks again for the suggestion. The problem was with my tosser. Three calls to the Author fixed it. Don't know what happened or if it will reoccour, however it is fixed for now.. Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * Always be sincere, even if you don't mean it. --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1977 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 01/05/94 10:46p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Dave In a message to Randy Blackmond <01/01/94> Dave Osborne wrote: DO> Sorry to tell ya, you got a problem on your end my friend. I haven't see DO> bad packet yet. If you're getting Zip CRC errors you may have some bad r DO> just went through that problem a few weeks ago. I could unzip the same b DO> on different machines with different results. Drow me nuts for two days. Not true.. I got a packet called 0000FFFF.MO0 that was actualy a packet mis-named to an arcive.. it happens.. Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * I tried switching to gum but couldn't keep it lit --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1978 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/05/94 10:52p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Glenn In a message to Glenn Vermette <01/02/94> Glenn Caleval wrote: GC> I manually unpacked the bundles and tossed them. They tossed fine, except GC> the specific .pkts that had the CRC errors. Out of those I'd get a pile o GC> gibble treated as netmail and simply delete them from my netmail dir. An GC> examination of the netmail variants was not enlightening :-) I talked to Boyd about this and he just switched back to DOS 5 and thinks that may fix things.. I sure hope so..I hate deleting all those messages by hand.. Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS * WCE 1.5/2008 * Jesus saves. He passes to Moses. Moses shoots...He scores! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1979 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 01/05/94 10:54p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Ken In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/03/94> Ken Kavanagh wrote: KK> theres some good ones in there..but i doubt I'll do very well with the ve KK> trivia program..where's vermont?? Just west of New Hampshire north of Mass. and east of New York State.. Do you do better at US Trivia? Steve Perlo Distant Mirror BBS cc: John Mcconnell --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1980 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/06/94 5:58p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think it was the article in BoardWatch Magazine > from the Interview > you had at OneBBSCon, that made me decide to go with > PC. It was in that > article that stated you guys were planning on throwing > everything > you could get your hands on, up to the bird. Well, > PLEASE keep it up! What issue was this in? Was it the one where they discussed OneBBSCon?. Or have they had a more indepth look at PC since that issue, like they said they would. I keep meaning to send my subscription out for Boardwatch, but always end up putting it off. Take Care, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 1981 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/06/94 10:44p Subj: ul test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ul test to pc --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 1982 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/06/94 11:01p Subj: test uplink to pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd this is just to test my uplink to you. If this makes it to you could you holler back? Thanks! -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1983 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 01/06/94 5:23p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed, maybe you've got time on your hands to kill, but I don't. If they don't come in with .TIC files, I don't have the time to figure out where they belong.. bit bucket perhaps. I spent the better part of 4 hours dinking with all that apogee software.. pulling out all the .diz files, and merging them into my file directories. It was a royal pain in the *ss! I sent Boyd a netmail to this effect as well. I encourage anyone else who feels the same to do likewise. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1984 To: PHIL MILLER Date: 01/07/94 12:25a Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> On Mon 03-Jan-1994 14:13 thus spake Fred Seibel unto Glenn Caleval: -> -> FS> When the EOT signal comes down, it moves everything to -> FS> the server, which has 637megs on it. Takes maybe 2 or -> FS> 3 minutes, and most of that isn't LAN time, it's -> FS> PCUTIL ect cleaning up the PC hard drive. -> -> I could never get PCUTIL to work, so i wrote my own. -> Usually takes about 1 seconds to clean everything up, unless PC -> more than average, then it takes 2 seconds. heheheeh!!! Wise Guy!!! That IS fast. --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1985 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 01/07/94 12:27a Subj: File for you... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FS> Hi OZZ, -> FS> Maybe you could get Boyd to send it out over the bird?? -> -> ! Boyd and I have spoken about me releasing my shareware/f -> over the DISH. I am working on writing my own TIC processor - its don -> inbound, but I am working on the outbound routines. Hope to have it d -> month, and in doing so I will start shooting many neat toys up to us! -> -> I am finishing up a killer TOSSER I designed, and with it I w -> sending my toys to BOYD from then on! (The Tosser Supports: QWK, SDM -> HUDSON, JAM, SQUISH, EZYCOM) - Soon (*.BAG, *.PKT, MSGS.* (PCBoard).) -> direction there of. So people can take say, EZYCOM to *.BAG, or PCBOA -> etc. The future goal is to take anyones mail for other nets (mainly Q -> Internet) shoot them to me, and I will do the uplink for all of us (p -> via a local INTERNET system or via Bob Oyler @ Databanks). -> -> From the Nuthouse, OZZ GOOD!!! Can't wait to get my hands on it! Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1986 To: JOHN ALLEN Date: 01/07/94 12:30a Subj: Re: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> As I -> -> write this, it is raining and the wind is gusting to 47 MPH -> -> and I have had no errors since around 10am (it is now about -> -> 8pm). -> -> Well as far as the wind goes I have had winds up to 97 MPH and the Ku -> system stayed in place... -> -> -> John AHH!!! I guess I'm safe!! Worst I've had was about 50. Did have about 1/2 inch of ice on it the other day. Went fron sig strength 9 to about 8. Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1987 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/05/94 4:30p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/30/93> Bill Roper wrote: BR> -> Hello Diane! BR> -> BR> -> In a message to Robert Hilgar <01/02/94> Diane Summers wrote: BR> -> BR> -> DS> Hi Robert! BR> -> BR> -> DS> RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. BR> -> BR> -> DS> Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the BR> -> DS> impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my messag BR> -> DS> bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd BR> -> DS> about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellit BR> -> DS> to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep t BR> -> DS> from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelati BR> -> DS> knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps BR> -> DS> error on my part. :) Thanks... BR> -> BR> -> Diane permit me to but in her for a moment. The way a tosser BR> -> works it Boyds tosser will toss to 1:3615/15 and his tosser will BR> -> put in the Seen By line 3615/15 as having seen it. Whoever BR> -> tossed to him would put 3615/50 in the Seen By line. Now when we BR> -> get the mail it is tossed to 1:3615/15 and my address being BR> -> 1:3622/1000 should have been in the Seen By but 3615/15 did not BR> -> toss it. What the problem with my net is that I receive the mail BR> -> from the bird and toss it using 3615/15 as an aka but my BR> -> downlinks never get my address in their tossed mail Seen By line BR> -> and it gets tossed right back to me. What I did was call the BR> -> author of my tosser, a registered version, and he wrote me a BR> -> special one that puts my address in the Seen By line and the dupe BR> -> loop stopped coming back to me from my downlinks. BR> -> BR> -> Hope I made some since with all this. It is a problem that most BR> -> tosser authors need to know about so they can do a simple check BR> -> of the Seen By line for the node address and if not present put BR> -> it there. BR> Hi, Joe... BR> saw and responded to a similar message from you in WILDCAT, BR> and since I see you saying the same thing here, can only BR> assume that you DO have the aka wrong in your setup.... BR> you should have an aka of 1:3615/51, NOT 1:3615/15.... BR> ^^ ^^ BR> Not even WILDMAIL will work properly with the wrong BR> aka in there (g)... BR> cheers.. BR> Bill... I have the correct AKA this message was a typo error usine 15 insted of 51. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * The ultimate mail reader is here!!!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1988 To: MARK DAVIS Date: 01/05/94 8:00p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello MARK! 30 Dec 93, MARK DAVIS writes to DENNIS POWERS: DP> JL>> there ether. I guess it will be sometime before someone figures DP> JL>> out how to convert .pcx to .rip. DP>> Considering that PCX format is Bitmapped and RIP format is Vector DP>> graphics t conversion is not easy. (RIP Icons are Bitmaped) MD> There's a utility that will convert a .wmf to a rip screen, might just MD> have to go from .pcx to ? to .wmf to rip... Haven't had the time to I played with the WMF to RIP program and the first two versions had severe limitations. I was hoping for a better way to do RIP graphics, since the current tools are pretty crude right now. I'm looking into HiJack Pro for windows to see what kind of conversions can be done, but like you, it's on the back burner . The conversion from Bitmaped (raster) to Vector format is pretty tricky. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1989 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/04/94 6:20p Subj: PKUNZIP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > =*=*=*=* > | Mike's Mansion | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: > 50:5017/81.5 > | Cooking Files & Recipes | BBS: (503) 760-3777 > [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] > | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > =*=*=*=* Michael, We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to insert it in every message you post? Or am I the only one irritated by this sort of excess baggage? <> --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1990 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/04/94 6:30p Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the > sat. BIG mistake on my part. No mistake at all, I appreciate the bonus, Boyd. Anytime you have more stuff like that, shoot it along, I'll figure out what to do with it once it's here. Thanks again!! <> --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 1991 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 01/04/94 2:17p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of We 15-Dec-93 10:42, Brian Hess wrote: BH> JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? BH> BH> I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish.... But have there been any files in those areas since you started running the dish? --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner, ZyX19.2k (613)521-0455 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 1992 To: DAVID.E SMITH Date: 01/06/94 1:44a Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello David.e! 03 Jan 94, David.e Smith writes to Tim Bellaart: DeS> Was shipped Via Purolator Dec 29 W.B.# 509246997 Thank you Dave. Of course, it arrived two days after I entered the message here. I hope the rest of the parts will be here soon. :-) BTW, I've had the receiver plugged in since it arrived and the data light is blinking to beat the band. Thanks again for the great service. It's understandable that had it been any other time of the year, I'm sure the delay would have been shorter. Tim --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary Alberta (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 1993 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/06/94 1:50a Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! 03 Jan 94, Glenn Vermette writes to Tim Bellaart: GV> a bad receiver, and had a new one on my door step withing 36 hours. If GV> there is a delay I can almost assure you that it is beyond Dave's GV> control....hell the guy must sleep at Westonia...I called there one Sunday GV> night at around midnight Eastern time, expecting to leave a message...and GV> Dave answers! Hang in there...I'm sure it will work out. Thank you for your message Glenn. Dave has already proven you correct. I called him last night after I received the new receiver and sure enough he was there to answer the call (10:00 pm his time). GV> it's worth, I got a Ku System...works great here. Great news! What size dish are you using? I've got an eight foot spun (yea it's old). I anticipate the only problem I will have is living in the east>west flight path of the Calgary International airport :-) Take care! Tim --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS BBS Calgary Alberta (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1994 To: STEVE PERLO Date: 01/07/94 2:51p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Steve Perlo wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: SP> Ola' Greg SP> In a message to John Mcconnell <01/02/94> Greg Shaffer SP> wrote: GS> You would probably get farther with giving us a list of the echos out of GS> current FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO that you are not getting.....since we a GS> supposed to be getting them ALL. SP> The problem is fixed.. Wish more folks would have offered SP> ideas (like your's) instead of saying.. Get real you SP> worthless $%^&*#@ if you can't figure it out on your own you SP> have no business in FIDO. Thanks again for the suggestion. SP> The problem was with my tosser. Three calls to the Author SP> fixed it. Don't know what happened or if it will reoccour, SP> however it is fixed for now.. Well.....based on the tone and content of your original message it was hard not to respond in the manner you describe :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 1995 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 01/07/94 8:10p Subj: Planet_Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BS> Anyone have a file I can download to obtain further information -> BS> setup, which would give me an idea of what I am looking at as fa -> BS> equipment, needed, cost, etc. -> -> you need: -> a 486-33 with lots of memory -> at least 1 gig of hard drive space if you wish to keep any of the d -> more than 1 week (lets say two to be generous) -> Ken I think you are exaggerating just a tad here aren't you? I snag about 300 fido conferences, and keep 500 messages each, at 1k avg per message that is 150 megs. And a 486 is nice but certainly not necessary, nor is the 'lots' of memory. -> a second computer (286, 386sx16) but with at least a 100 meg hard dri -> it a fast one with a large hardware cache) -> -> a lan tying the two systems togeather. Or Desqview and multi-taks. I am not doing it but several folks are and apparently successfully. Or just use one system, receive the stuff then toss it, then go back to receiving. -> a satellite dish (one of two kinds) -> C band dish. Depending on where you are on the continent..anything -> to 10 foot dish will accomodate you nicely. -> or a KU band (around 2 or 3 foot in size, again depending where you -> these I know little about since I dont have one they basically -> much higher radio frequency. they dont sound that good to me particu -> you ever get snow or lots and lots of rain (as I do here in Vancouver -> operates at a much lower fequency 950-1450 gigahz as opposed to (i st -> corrected I'm sure) around 35,000 gigahz for KU band..rain gets in th -> frequency's way :) The only justification for using C-Band is if you already have a dish and want it to double-duty. A dedicated Ku setup for data reception makes a lot more sense I think. If rain is likely to be a major problem, then go to a 4 ft dish. Since everything repeats in a 3-4 hour cycle though, you could get wiped out for several hours by a major rain fade (and it would take a heavy rain), and still you wouldn't miss a thing. -> a poll (not that funny since they cost 6 bucks a foot new, 3 bucks u -> plant your dish in the ground, or a tripod stand..i havent a clue how -> are. -> -> a .30 degree lnb (the dish's brains) -> a feedhorn, holds the brains and focus's the data at it -> a bunch of very expensive cable to run between this dish and your ho -> your receiver (300USD, around 450 canadian after the ignornat taxes a -> a satellite receiver (regular video kind) to aim the dish properly -> Again, all of this is eliminated by going Ku. The whole package is $495 for dish, lnb, feed, mount, and receiver. The cable is plain old RG-6 and is very inexpensive. Smaller dish means smaller mount, etc. $495 for the package, plus say $20 for the RG-6 plus a 386sx with a couple of hundred meg drive and you are in business. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAX VONDERHORST Number: 1996 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/07/94 8:15p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Wiesner wrote in a message to Ed Marquis: CW> Ed, maybe you've got time on your hands to kill, but I CW> don't. If they don't come in with .TIC files, I don't have CW> the time to figure out where they belong.. bit bucket CW> perhaps. I spent the better part of 4 hours dinking with all CW> that apogee software.. pulling out all the .diz files, and You should try running AllFix, then you wouldn't have to dink about for 4 hours. Judicious use of * and ? dos "meta" characters along with the use of the "Hatch Manager" would have generated .TIC files to your downlinks for 99.9 - 100.0% of the Apogee stuff with descriptions taken from the FILE_ID.DIZ file automatically as well as using the description to update your files.bbs. Creativity reduces time spent and gives you a good feeling after it is all over. 8^) 8^) Regards, Max --- timEd-B9 * Origin: The Silver Meteor - Highballin' Orlando's Mail (1:363/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 1997 To: ALL Date: 01/07/94 9:37p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone help me with what is probably a dumb question? Last night I tried exporting a message from a Fido conference and sending out to PC. All seemed to work fine, except, all 3 of the messages I sent re-appeared the next day and got tossed back into this conference. Apparently I don't have something configured correctly but I sure can't see what's wrong. I am running Wildmail as my tosser. I have 3615/51 as an AKA address. I checked one of the (outgoing) messages I sent last night and it showed: SEENBY 231/285 3615/50 PATH 231/285 This seems to mesh with the instructions from PC. In Wildmail I have my conferences configured as: Origin Address 1:231/285.0 Upload/Feed Address 1:3615/50.0 Can someome advise me what I need to change to keep WIldmail from tossing my messages as they come back from the satellite? Thanks in advance, -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1998 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/07/94 1:52p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Monday January 03 1994 01:21, Boyd Goodin wrote to Craig Clark: >> It's not just you - I've been getting the same thing. Hope Boyd finds >> what the problem is soon. BG> Yep DOS 6. Switched back to 5 and it seems to clear up. Also the BG> bundles have been going out in a regular size fashion. Still have to wait BG> a while and see if it chears up on this end. BG> ...Boyd Hello Boyd! Which version of MSDOS 5.0... the April 1991 version has a Number Algorithum Bug that calculated the Wrong CRC value... the 11-11-91 Release of MSDOS 5.0 is a Bug Fix... Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Number: 1999 To: ALL Date: 01/07/94 6:42p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson) Newsgroups: tdkt-fido.planet-connect Subject: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Organization: Electronics 101. Apple Valley, MN Reply-To: bryan@edgar.mn.org In article <757764220.AA07156@tdkt.mn.org>, Fred Seibel wrote: > > > I've heard estimates of 25 to 30 megs a day coming down > just for that. > Can you, or anyone else give a good figure of how > much to expect in compressed INTERNET traffic we > should be ready to handle?? I'm getting most of the world wide groups except bionet and the pictures groups and my feed is currently running about 28 meg per day compressed with gzip -9. The bionet groups were around 5 meg per day when they were cut over a year ago and the pictures groups were 10 meg per day when they were cut around thanksgiving. Article counts are currently running around thirty three thousand per day. These figures are averaged over a weeks time. The busiest day is thursday when traffic can be half again the average and can easily be over 100 meg after it's uncompressed. -- Bryan Halvorson bryan@edgar.mn.org N0BUU bryan@n0buu.ampr.org --- * Origin: The Dark Knight's Table: Free Public Access News/Email (1:282/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 2000 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/07/94 6:08p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ed, maybe you've got time on your hands to kill, but I don't. I don't have much extra time myself... > they don't come in with .TIC files, I don't have the time to > figure out where they belong.. bit bucket perhaps. For you, perhaps. If the files don't come in to Boyd's system with Tic's and he just found them interesting enough to send without tic's, I'd like to have them and won't quibble about them not having a tic file. That's why I had suggested that he set up an area with a rulebase so people like yourself can filter them out if they wish. > better part of 4 hours dinking with all that apogee software.. > pulling out all the .diz files, and merging them into my file There are programs that will automatically pull the DIZ descriptions out of archives and place the descriptions in your FILES.BBS or other database. Setting up one of them would save you a lot of time. I use GET-DIZ on my system. It has saved me countless hours of description writing. If the option is that Boyd either sends them with a tic but doesn't have time to hatch them or he doesn't send them at all, I'll always support him sending them without the tic's. Take care, Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK DAVIS Number: 2001 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 01/07/94 1:18p Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> DP> JL>> there ether. I guess it will be sometime before someone figures DP> DP> JL>> out how to convert .pcx to .rip. DP> DP>> Considering that PCX format is Bitmapped and RIP format is Vector DP> MD> There's a utility that will convert a .wmf to a rip screen, might just DP> MD> have to go from .pcx to ? to .wmf to rip... Haven't had the time to DP>I played with the WMF to RIP program and the first two versions had severe DP>limitations. I was hoping for a better way to do RIP graphics, since the DP>current tools are pretty crude right now. I'm looking into HiJack Pro for DP>windows to see what kind of conversions can be done, but like you, it's on t DP>back burner . The conversion from Bitmaped (raster) to Vector format is DP>pretty tricky. Yeah, let me know how it goes for you, I'd really have to unarchive windoze off of tape just to do conversions, and that would sure take the "automated-ness" factor out of it. PCX -> GIF goes pretty well, and GIF -> JPG does well too, so we might have to wait on telegrafix to get around to the next version of RIP before really spending a whole lot of time trying to beat the dog... .\\ * QMPro 1.51 * A $ saved is a $ congress has overlooked! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0097] * Origin: EXOTICA'S PETS & STUFF-CRYSTAL RIVER,FL- (1:3653/66) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DONALD SHELTON Number: 2002 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 01/08/94 1:04a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RM>RH> I don't remember who it was that stated they were >RH> getting 183 messages per second but that would be 2.7 >RH> minutes! Can this be? I thought my 9 minutes was good! RM>That 183 was a record and not typical. When I hit that record my normal >tossing was averaging 85/sec. Full backbone drop took about 15 minutes, fro >receiving mail to restarting mailer. RM> ... Remus ... What kind of BBS and tossing software are you using? Is this on a LAN or is the drive you are tossing to on the same machine? I am averaging about 30 msg a minute here. Donald * QMPro 1.51 * AirBoat BBS 713 855-6724 Houston, TX ! --- WM v3.10/91-0233 * Origin: AirBoat OnLine (713) 855-6724 Houston, TX (1:106/737) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BARR Number: 2003 To: TONY HONAKER Date: 01/06/94 4:33p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BITCH BITCH BITCH... Always something.... My net wants the > files.. Not > the messages..If you only have 40 megs free then you almost > have no > business being a NEC. What do you do when your hub went down Tony, I *TOTALLY* agree. I am in this for the mail, but those files went to great use and my users went crazy over them... I wasn't sure about them without TIC files, but the GET-DIZ file that PC sent along with them was excellant... And worked like a charm --- * Origin: ** Digicom BBS ** 812-479-1310 USR 16.8-DS Evansville, IN (1:2310/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2004 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/05/94 4:30p Subj: DUPE LOOP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 1 Hello Bill! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/30/93> Bill Roper wrote: BR> -> Hello Diane! BR> -> BR> -> In a message to Robert Hilgar <01/02/94> Diane Summers wrote: BR> -> BR> -> DS> Hi Robert! BR> -> BR> -> DS> RH> Wow Diane, that doesn't sound like a very intelligent tosser. BR> -> BR> -> DS> Being relatively new to Fidonet I had somehow gotten the BR> -> DS> impression "dupe loop" meant seeing mail come back into my messag BR> -> DS> bases that had originated on mine but after talking voice to Boyd BR> -> DS> about it, he assured me it was normal for systems on the satellit BR> -> DS> to see their own messages again and there was not a way to keep t BR> -> DS> from importing so I felt alot better after learning this revelati BR> -> DS> knowing there is not anything wronmg with my software or perhaps BR> -> DS> error on my part. :) Thanks... BR> -> BR> -> Diane permit me to but in her for a moment. The way a tosser BR> -> works it Boyds tosser will toss to 1:3615/15 and his tosser will BR> -> put in the Seen By line 3615/15 as having seen it. Whoever BR> -> tossed to him would put 3615/50 in the Seen By line. Now when we BR> -> get the mail it is tossed to 1:3615/15 and my address being BR> -> 1:3622/1000 should have been in the Seen By but 3615/15 did not BR> -> toss it. What the problem with my net is that I receive the mail BR> -> from the bird and toss it using 3615/15 as an aka but my BR> -> downlinks never get my address in their tossed mail Seen By line BR> -> and it gets tossed right back to me. What I did was call the BR> -> author of my tosser, a registered version, and he wrote me a BR> -> special one that puts my address in the Seen By line and the dupe BR> -> loop stopped coming back to me from my downlinks. BR> -> BR> -> Hope I made some since with all this. It is a problem that most BR> -> tosser authors need to know about so they can do a simple check BR> -> of the Seen By line for the node address and if not present put BR> -> it there. BR> Hi, Joe... BR> saw and responded to a similar message from you in WILDCAT, BR> and since I see you saying the same thing here, can only BR> assume that you DO have the aka wrong in your setup.... BR> you should have an aka of 1:3615/51, NOT 1:3615/15.... BR> ^^ ^^ BR> Not even WILDMAIL will work properly with the wrong BR> aka in there (g)... BR> cheers.. BR> Bill... I have the correct AKA this message was a typo error usine 15 insted of 51. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * The ultimate mail reader is here!!!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 2005 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/05/94 12:54a Subj: UPGRADE QEMM/DV Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> Hey Tony, how the Heck are ya? Anyways, just curious about the QEMM TL> 7.03. Did you have to pay to upgrade from 7.02, which is what I am TL> running now? If not, where can I grab it? I am not Tony , but you can freq these from me at 1:138/165 or 1:138/194 260TO261.ZIP 133329 10-20-93 patch DV 2.60 to 2.61 261TO262.ZIP 99791 12-01-93 patch DV 2.61 to 2.62 level 701TO703.ZIP 212474 11-17-93 QEMM 701->703 patch 702TO703.ZIP 134794 11-17-93 QEMM 702->703 patch 7TO702.ZIP 182667 09-30-93 Patch to take QEMM 7.01 to 7.02 TRENDS! is coming to Sumner in February.....Be on the lookout!!! --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 2006 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 01/06/94 2:15a Subj: PLANET_CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 50 On Sunday January 02 1994, Bob Slowinski writes to All: Hello Bob! BS> Anyone have a file I can download to obtain further information about this BS> setup, which would give me an idea of what I am looking at as far as BS> equipment, needed, cost, etc. you need: a 486-33 with lots of memory at least 1 gig of hard drive space if you wish to keep any of the data sent more than 1 week (lets say two to be generous) a second computer (286, 386sx16) but with at least a 100 meg hard drive (make it a fast one with a large hardware cache) a lan tying the two systems togeather. a satellite dish (one of two kinds) C band dish. Depending on where you are on the continent..anything from a 7 to 10 foot dish will accomodate you nicely. or a KU band (around 2 or 3 foot in size, again depending where you live) these I know little about since I dont have one they basically use a much higher radio frequency. they dont sound that good to me particualry if you ever get snow or lots and lots of rain (as I do here in Vancouver) C band operates at a much lower fequency 950-1450 gigahz as opposed to (i stand to be corrected I'm sure) around 35,000 gigahz for KU band..rain gets in that frequency's way :) a poll (not that funny since they cost 6 bucks a foot new, 3 bucks used) to plant your dish in the ground, or a tripod stand..i havent a clue how much they are. a .30 degree lnb (the dish's brains) a feedhorn, holds the brains and focus's the data at it a bunch of very expensive cable to run between this dish and your house hence your receiver (300USD, around 450 canadian after the ignornat taxes and duties) a satellite receiver (regular video kind) to aim the dish properly after you have all that...i guess a bbs or some good mailer software if you plan on moving the mail beyond your own system, a fast modem to send it with if the latter is the case (or if you plan on both as I do and most of the rest of us P.C. users) and that should about cover it. oh ya, the monthly costs for your phone line and for the actually data feed off the dish (40 bucks a month for fidonet backbone mail and the filebone, 30 bucks a month for the internet USENET newsgroups) All in all I figer if you have none of the above, you need around 10,000 dollars and you'll be fine. plus 100 bucks a month in running costs. If you can steal some old computers from friends family or a computer store in the middle of the night (same goes for the sat stuff) the cost drops naturally Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Thursday January 06 1994 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2007 To: BILL WOLF Date: 01/07/94 7:06p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What issue was this in? Was it the one where they discussed OneBBSCon?. > Or have they had a more indepth look at PC since that issue, like they > said they would. I keep meaning to send my subscription out for No they haven't had a more indepth look at PC. And they missed Boyd when he had his two days off (that scoundrel ;) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2008 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/07/94 7:08p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > and merging them into my file directories. It was a royal pain in the > *ss! I sent Boyd a netmail to this effect as well. I encourage anyone > else who feels the same to do likewise. I think you'll find that most of hte people here are happy that Boyd did that. I spent a good deal of time on them too, but it also contained a BUNCH of games that I didn't have, so I'll not complain one bit. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2009 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/07/94 9:43p Subj: test uplink to pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/06/94> Jim St. John wrote: JS> Boyd this is just to test my uplink to you. If this makes it to you JS> could you holler back? Thanks! JS> -jim- If he don't I will. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2010 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/07/94 9:45p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris! In a message to Ed Marquis <01/06/94> Chris Wiesner wrote: CW> Ed, maybe you've got time on your hands to kill, but I don't. If they don CW> come in with .TIC files, I don't have the time to figure out where they CW> belong.. bit bucket perhaps. I spent the better part of 4 hours dinking w CW> all that apogee software.. pulling out all the .diz files, and merging th CW> into my file directories. It was a royal pain in the *ss! I sent Boyd a CW> netmail to this effect as well. I encourage anyone else who feels the sam CW> do likewise. CW> Regards That is amazing you took such drastic measures to add them to your database. I wrote a 5 minute batch file and used transcan and 10 minutes later it all was done. I hope Boyd keeps sending them as my children loved them as well as several of my users. It could have been worse, it could take 6 hours next time. Joe CW> --- TMail v1.31.5 CW> * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) * WCE 1.5/2107 * Ever meet a Sysop who would admit the problem was his? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 2011 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/07/94 1:53p Subj: Sig Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> Michael, JD> We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to insert it JD> in every message you post? Sorry about that.. it is a "SIG" that is automaticly appended to every message for every user. <* Michael *> MRTG: Junk is the stuff we throw away, and stuff is the junk we keep. *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* | Mike's Mansion | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/81.5 | Cooking Files & Recipes | BBS: (503) 760-3777 [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2012 To: ALL Date: 01/07/94 2:26p Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Since newsgroups are supposedly coming over the sat soon - I don't suppose it would be possible to get a list of those that will be coming accross (not the ones that won't) so that we can start setting our systems up for it? Just a thought. --- QScan v1.04b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2013 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/07/94 1:28a Subj: UseNet and Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, any word on when the UseNet feed is going to start coming over? Are you going to start with the ENTIRE feed, or maybe build its way up a bit? Also, please accept my support for throwing anything and everything you can get your hands on, up to the bird. I keep reading these stupid messages about this thing is supposed to be automated, but from where I sit, it seems like all these people want YOU to automate THEIR systems for them. Take the no .tic files for example. They could automate those files easy enough, get a file processor that uncompresses the file and adds the descriptions from the file.diz. Works like a charm. Better yet, if they don't like them, they can always automate their batch files to delete them. What a concept, eh? Anywho, any thoughts on adding services like stock quotes and things like the Wall Street Journal? Keep up the GREAT work, and don't let the ill prepared slow you down. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2014 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/07/94 3:16a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messages in my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, because I could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I got these? Also, this particular batch of garbage really choked WildMail to the point of taking 1 to 2 minutes to process each of the garbage messages. I have had a similar problem with WildMail like this before and it was caused by some InterNet NewsGroup Messages that had NOT been split and were at the maximum length of almost 17k for the message. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2015 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 01/07/94 7:02p Subj: Upgrade QEMM/DV Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I am not Tony , but you can freq these from me at -> 1:138/165 or 1:138/194 -> -> 260TO261.ZIP 133329 10-20-93 patch DV 2.60 to 2.61 -> 261TO262.ZIP 99791 12-01-93 patch DV 2.61 to 2.62 level -> 701TO703.ZIP 212474 11-17-93 QEMM 701->703 patch -> 702TO703.ZIP 134794 11-17-93 QEMM 702->703 patch -> 7TO702.ZIP 182667 09-30-93 Patch to take QEMM 7.01 to 7.02 Thanks Tim, Tony was kind enough to send me the 702to703 file, but on receipt I realized that I am still at 7.01. This will come in handy! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2016 To: BILL WOLF Date: 01/07/94 7:06p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> What issue was this in? Was it the one where they discussed OneBBSCo -> have they had a more indepth look at PC since that issue, like they s -> would. I keep meaning to send my subscription out for Boardwatch, bu -> end up putting it off. It was the first issue I ever read. I believe it to be September or October. It was the one with just the review of OneBBScon. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 2017 To: BILL WOLF Date: 01/07/94 1:09a Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill-- >> would behoove Mr. Toth to reconsider....... BW> Actually HE is a She.. .. ouch! Guess I showed my ignorance, didn't I? I HATE it when I do that. A thousand pardons, madam, if you is lookin at this......... But, PLEASE consider all us PCers!!!!!! Ken --- RA 2.01+/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 2018 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 01/07/94 1:12a Subj: CRC errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Floyd-- FD> I've *NEVER* had PKZIPFIX work. I'm glad to see this statement, Floyd, 'cause I never have either!!! Thought it was just another big screw up on my part!! Ken --- RA 2.01+/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 2019 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/07/94 1:14a Subj: Tics or not... send 'em Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd-- BG> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the BG> sat. BIG mistake on my part. Oh, no you don't!!!! Don't you DARE think these things weren't appreciated!!!! You do that AS OFTEN as you like/can!!!!! If someone else has a problem with that, too bad... those of us who live in the real world certainly thought it was great!!! Thanks again for giving us that nice surprise!!!! Ken --- RA 2.01+/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 2020 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/07/94 1:21a Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd-- TL> Mrs. Toth. Ronnie is short for Veronica :) Ugh. I been clobbered about that one!!! From now on, I'll say "Mr?/Mrs?/MS?" and hope for the best .... hee hee hee.. Ken --- RA 2.01+/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN JACKSON Number: 2021 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 01/07/94 1:23a Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Brian-- BH> Ms. Toth.... She very nice person to talk to voice... I am sure she has BH> her reasons.. But i Do not Agree with the end action at All! Thanks for the correction. I never stopped to think this could be a nickname for a female.... and I would hope she would change her mind about allowing us the files. Ken --- RA 2.01+/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: MidNite ChowBoy <> Greenwood MS <> FidoNet via satellite (1:368/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2022 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/07/94 5:17p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No NOTE: This message was originally addressed to BOYD GOODIN and was forwarded to you by BILL ROPER -------------------- ---- much deleted---- Now, where I want to express my concern is that you folks are stating there is going to be an additional fee for the NewsGroups. I just want to let you know that I am prepared to pay a SMALL monthly fee for the service, but I am NOT happy about it. The NewsGroups WERE the reason I hooked into PC and there was NO mention at the time about additional expenses. I hope this dosen't ruffle any feathers, as this is NOT the intent. I just wanted to let you know my opinion on the matter. I hope you will concider what I have said! Boyd, I'd just like to add my endorsment to Tim's comments... I also did the PC route solely because of Internet availablity... The fact that Fidonet/bone and all the rest is a decided plus, but Usenet was the primary reason.... cheers... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2023 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 01/08/94 8:36p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudy Hehn wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: RH> I'm going to be switching to Os/2 within a couple of weeks. RH> Is there any way to make the dongle work under OS/2? I'd RH> like to cut everything down to working on one system, RH> instead of 3 machines running under Lantastic. Lantastic is working great here for me - PC could send files 24 hours a day if they like! I have a machine dedicated to the feed (not a server), a semi-dedicated server, and three nodes (machines) for callers. The server also runs Squish and Allfix to toss mail and files, but that's all that it does (besides be a server). I considered OS/2, but I think this setup is more stable and flexible in the long run. If you still want to get Lantastic working smoothly, maybe I could help? I'm in the support business, and Lantastic is one of the products we sell and support. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2024 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/08/94 4:23p Subj: Re: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> hardware/software for PC there was NO receipt. Could I get that too? -> Will do. Thanks Boyd, got it in hand! Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2025 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 01/08/94 4:24p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->You'll have to set the SX33 up as a server, and on the exit from PCTTMAIN ->(Errorlevel 100) created a semephore file like DOIT.NOW. ->have the nodes on the DX40 scan for that file across the network and if found ->1. Delete it ->2. Run PCUtils Checkx and port the new files over to the DX40 ->3. toss them on the DX40 this is EXACTLY what I did....before I even read this :-} Thanx, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2026 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/08/94 4:25p Subj: HINTS W/LANTASTIC AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I run a '386SX with the satellite receiver and use PCUTIL to move the incomi ->stuff to the '486 Mail Muncher upon receipt of the "marker file". The -SX jus ->goes back to receiving again. The Mail Muncher runs Qmail, crunches it all up ->and moves the mail and files to the BBS, another '486 running 10 lines of TBB ->and TIMS. That passes out the mail to my downlinks, including all files that ->they've signed up for via RAID, posts the files that I want on my own system ->into the BBS download areas, etc. Thanks Jim....doing that here as well. Guess I sorta have a clue then? :-} Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2027 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/09/94 2:45a Subj: AD (Author Direct) FDN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Thursday January 06 1994 00:23, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> conditions that has been agreed apond by P.S.I. and Richard Holler is that BG> these file areas *CAN NOT* be distributed beyond the receiving system. Including being posted on the host BBS? How will they ascertain a file was delivered by TIC, or just downloaded enmasse from the guy's bbs? What in the world gets into these guys? BG> That means that these files are not allowed to be passed on to other BBS's BG> by any means. They are for posting on your BBS only. If anyone is BG> caught passing these on with thier tics by any means will result in PC BG> loosing its authority to pick these up and pass them on to you and could BG> also mean that the offending system will lose its ability to subscribe to BG> PC. This FDN is *NOT* part of the fidonet filebone and is a private file BG> distribution network. Pleasse be aware of not forwarding any areas that BG> begin with AD- as this is a closed distribution. Hopefully this will be a BG> success and as work gets out to the authors you will see this area being BG> quite active. Looks like an accident waiting to happen. Telling guys "thou shalt not under pain of death" is the same as saying, "Let see you figure out a way to do it without getting caught!" Scenario: 1) PC Sysop gets a ton of files and posts them on his bbs. 2) I see the files, download them (like any other regular user), and put them up on my board. 3) Joe Sysop sees the files on my bbs, downloads them, and makes them FREQ'able on his system. Repacks and removes any "only PC people can have this on their BBS" files and replaces them with his own DIZ, etc. How the heck would they ever have any control over this setup? Will their shareware license inside say "do not distribute this to anyone for any reason?" I thought the idea of shareware was the largest possible dissemination to the largest possible audience? Wierd. Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2028 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/09/94 2:54a Subj: AD (Author Direct) FDN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Thursday January 06 1994 00:23, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> distribution network. Pleasse be aware of not forwarding any areas that BG> begin with AD- as this is a closed distribution. Hopefully this will be a BG> success and as work gets out to the authors you will see this area being BG> quite active. Why would an author use a system that won't let his files get out? Defeats the purpose of shareware. Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 2029 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 01/09/94 3:51a Subj: corrections Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KK> C band operates at a much lower fequency 950-1450 gigahz as KK> opposed to (i stand to be corrected I'm sure) around 35,000 gigahz for KK> KU band C band is around 4 gigahz and Ku is around 12 gigahz. Both C and Ku band dishes use a block downconverter whose output is 950-1450 megahz. ^^^ KK> rain gets in that frequency's way :) Recently there was a really wet snow. It piled up vertically about 1" thick on top of the feedhorn support pipes, which are only about 3/4" dia, and the top edge of the dish had a stack about 2" high. I didn't climb up on the roof to measure it but I bet there was an inch stuck all over the face of the 2.5' dish (east Tennessee.) Still, WHILE the snow was coming down thick I barely missed a bit - just one file, which I got on cycle 2. If you're really close to the line-of-sight path of a terrestrial microwave link, you should worry about C band but Ku is not affected. KK> [You need] a .30 degree lnb make that 30 degrees Kelvin ( a measure of the noise level of the low noise amplifier, the lower the better ) KK> a bunch of very expensive cable to run between this dish and your KK> house hence your receiver (300USD, around 450 canadian Huh? the cable is the same for C or Ku, and not very expensive - the demodulator is what costs $300 KK> a satellite receiver (regular video kind) to aim the dish properly Well that WOULD help but I aimed mine using mainly the signal strength meter (my speaker didn't squeal like it should - flaky DIP switch?) I did have the advantage of being able to see a nearby C band dish aimed in roughly the direction of G4. --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2030 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/08/94 11:22p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Can someome advise me what I need to change to keep WIldmail from -> tossing my messages as they come back from the satellite? This is perfectly normal....if they didn't come back to you, nobody would see them. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2031 To: RANDY BLACKMOND Date: 01/08/94 1:56p Subj: CRC errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Randy Blackmond writes: RB>Looks like Boyd found the problem (DOS 6). I hear from reliable RB>tech people that if you want to go with DOS above 5.0, stick with RB>PC-DOS and avoid MS-DOS. Dos 6 is known as "Gates Virus". Rumor has it they needed something to persuade more people to try Windoze NT. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2032 To: ALL Date: 01/08/94 5:40p Subj: My DV & PC Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is an update of my problems running the pc software under desqview.. I've been playing around with more setups and changes, etc.. and still haven't been able to figure out what the problem is. I've disabled all other drivers, cache programs, etc..etc.. and still no luck. One thing that I have noticed is the data format changes on the pc port for some reason. I'm running X00 for my fossil driver here, which includes a handy XU program for changing setups, and viewing port status. When my PC software is running smoothly, the data format according to XU S is 8N1. But when the pc system stalls (i.e. sees NO data coming in.), the data rate has magically chaned to 5N1. This would explain why it's not 'seeing' any data. However have no idea as to why it's changing.. Does this tell anyone anything? That perhaps might help me get this system running successfully under desqview? Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2033 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/08/94 8:31p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday January 07 1994 18:51, Terry Blount wrote to ALL: Hello Terry! I Got your CREAM2 file and requested DIZ2BBS.* DIZ2P110.ZIP DIZMAN12.ZIP and only got the following ABOUT. message in return.. The file you have requested doesn't seem to be available. Let me know what file you are tying to get and I'll see what is the matter. TB> D I Z 2 B B S TB> written by: TB> Terry Blount TB> File request TB> Diz2bbs TB> from 1:3625/441 TB> Purpose: TB> Diz2bbs.exe was written to extract File_id.diz text from TB> .Zip Archives and build a Files.bbs listing for a bbs. This TB> is useful when descriptions are missing or .TIC files are TB> lost or unavailable. TB> Usage: TB> Execute Diz2bbs.exe from the directory with the .zip TB> files you don't have descriptions for. The work will be TB> saved to a file named File.bbs to prevent overwriting any TB> pre-existing FileS.bbs. The file size and date will be TB> included. TB> Limitations: TB> If there is no File_id.diz in the archive the file name TB> will be listed in the File.bbs text but the description TB> field will be left blank. The format for the File.bbs is a TB> single, 256 character, limitation. This means that the TB> entire File_id.diz text will not be included... so the TB> author is limited to describe his program in 250 characters. TB> The description is truncated between words rather than TB> simply cutting it in the middle of a word. Diz2bbs cannot TB> identify bbs ads that have been inserted/ included with the TB> File_id text... I suggest we kill anyone doing this. TB> At this time Arj (and SDN) compression is not supported TB> because I can't figure out how to get the name of the TB> archive the the File_id.diz came out of to be included in TB> the ascii text file the descriptions are built from. The TB> file name is echoed to the screen with the following TB> command: TB> Arj s -y * *.diz TB> HOWEVER the command " Arj s -y * *.diz >> work " does TB> not save the name of the file to "Work" I had always TB> thought that anything shown on the screen could be directed TB> to a file name with ">" or ">>" Since the file name is TB> not saved (in the work file) there is no way to figure out TB> which archive the description belongs to. If you know of how TB> to resolve this problem let me know. TB> Registration: TB> No donations/fees/begging is requested for the non- TB> commercial use of this utility as long as you understand I TB> am not responsible. If you intend to use this program for TB> commercial gain please notify me first and consider some TB> form of compensation. TB> Enjoy! TB> Terry Blount TB> -+- timEd-A10c TB> + Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2034 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/08/94 6:42p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello George! In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/07/94> George Vandervort wrote: GV> Which version of MSDOS 5.0... GV> the April 1991 version has a Number Algorithum Bug that calculated the Wr GV> CRC value... GV> the 11-11-91 Release of MSDOS 5.0 is a Bug Fix... Do you have any data on PC DOS 6.1? That is what I am using here. and have had a few CRC errors. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2035 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/08/94 6:44p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to All <01/07/94> Jim St. John wrote: JS> tried exporting a message from a Fido conference and sending out to JS> PC. All seemed to work fine, except, all 3 of the messages I sent JS> re-appeared the next day and got tossed back into this conference. That is correct. If PC did not resend them down how would any else on PC get them. WildMail should see the message has been on your BBS and kill it as a dup. Make shure you have your dupe message data base set to at least 30,000. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Mail your ideas written on the back of a $20 bill to... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2036 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/08/94 2:31a Subj: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> There will be an Author Direct FDN from Richard Holler going over the sat BG>in about a day or two. This FDN contains author direct shareware programs an BG>is intended for Planet Connect subscribers *ONLY*. One of the conditions tha BG>has been agreed apond by P.S.I. and Richard Holler is that these file areas BG>*CAN NOT* be distributed beyond the receiving system. That means that these One of the hurdles Planet Connects has faced is File Distribution Network Heads who think they can regulate how we pass files... This is stupidity in action... --- RBBSMail/386 v0.991 * Origin: WER Development Support BBS 318-345-1955 (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CAM PRENTIS Number: 2037 To: TIM BELLAART Date: 01/06/94 8:24a Subj: Re: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TB: I ordered and paid in full for a C band receiver and software > TB: on the last week > TB: of November . The receiver arrived DOA so I returned it the following > TB: week. > TB: The last I heard from Dave Smith of Westonia Computer on December > TB: 20th was > TB: that there was a delay from the supplier and the receivers where > TB: on their way > TB: from Ottawa and should be in Toronto the following day. Sent my M.O. away on the first of December and got may receiver Jan. 5. It was shipped on Dec. 29, so you should have it soon. --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a * Origin: Go Express BBS, Port Mellon, B.C. (604)884-5255 (1:153/404.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2038 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/09/94 7:44a Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday January 07 1994 18:51, Terry Blount wrote to ALL: TB> D I Z 2 B B S TB> written by: TB> Terry Blount TB> File request TB> Diz2bbs TB> from 1:3625/441 TB> Purpose: TB> Diz2bbs.exe was written to extract File_id.diz text from TB> .Zip Archives and build a Files.bbs listing for a bbs. This TB> is useful when descriptions are missing or .TIC files are TB> lost or unavailable. TB> Enjoy! TB> Terry Blount TB> -+- timEd-A10c TB> + Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) Hello Terry! Thanks for the DIZ2BBS.ZIP file... it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that were orphanded :-) I used a Wildcard DIZ2BBS.* to freq the first time since I did not know what Extention you were using.. and that freq failed... Thanks again for sending me the file.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2039 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/09/94 11:25p Subj: Re: test uplink to pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd this is just to test my uplink to you. If this makes it to you > could you holler back? Thanks! > -jim- Seems to be. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2040 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/09/94 11:40p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > the April 1991 version has a Number Algorithum Bug that calculated the > Wrong CRC value... The april version. Seems that it could have been a possibility with the scsi drive being set up wa little to fast for the transfer rate. Slowed it down to 6.2 and seems to be working ok. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2041 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 01/09/94 11:41p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm going to be switching to Os/2 within a couple of weeks. Is there any > way to make the dongle work under OS/2? I'd like to cut everything down > to working on one system, instead of 3 machines running under Lantastic. The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2042 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/09/94 11:43p Subj: Re: UseNet and Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, any word on when the UseNet feed is going to start coming > over? Are you going to start with the ENTIRE feed, or maybe build its > way up a bit? Hopefully within the next week and we are going to gradually biuld it up. Wont not want to fill anybodies HD up! ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2043 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/09/94 5:51p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Can someome advise me what I need to change to keep WIldmail from -> -> tossing my messages as they come back from the satellite? -> -> This is perfectly normal....if they didn't come back to you, -> nobody would see them. You've got me confused now John! I am sednding out messages from my BBS, and yes they are part of the data stream back down from the bird, but shouldn't the seen-bys keep them from being re-tossed into my own system? -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 2044 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/08/94 1:31p Subj: Pkunzip Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> > [300/1200/2400/9600/14.4k] JD> > | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org JD> > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* JD> > =*=*=*=* JD>Michael, JD> We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to insert JD>it in every message you post? Or am I the only one irritated by this JD>sort of excess baggage? Nope. I call it "annoying"... may be "excessively annoying" soon ... --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2045 To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/09/94 9:23p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No bryan@edgar.mn.org wrote in a message to All: bmo> I'm getting most of the world wide groups except bionet and bmo> the pictures groups and my feed is currently running about bmo> 28 meg per day compressed with gzip -9. The bionet groups bmo> were around 5 meg per day when they were cut over a year ago bmo> and the pictures groups were 10 meg per day when they were bmo> cut around thanksgiving. Article counts are currently bmo> running around thirty three thousand per day. I hope that we get the bionet groups and picture groups, they are just about all that I am interested in, but I doubt we will. bmo> These figures are averaged over a weeks time. The busiest bmo> day is thursday when traffic can be half again the average bmo> and can easily be over 100 meg after it's uncompressed. that's the figure I heard. vandell@macpost.vanderbilt.edu vandell@ds9.raider.net vandelhg@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu guy@basement.raider.net --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2046 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 01/09/94 4:04p Subj: Hints w/LANtastic AI Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW> this is EXACTLY what I did....before I even read this :-} Great, Glad to hear it, All's well that ends well.... John..... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2047 To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/10/94 1:36a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I've heard estimates of 25 to 30 megs a day coming down -> > just for that. -> > Can you, or anyone else give a good figure of how -> > much to expect in compressed INTERNET traffic we -> > should be ready to handle?? -> -> I'm getting most of the world wide groups except bionet and the pictu -> groups and my feed is currently running about 28 meg per day compress -> with gzip -9. The bionet groups were around 5 meg per day when they w -> cut over a year ago and the pictures groups were 10 meg per day when -> they were cut around thanksgiving. Article counts are currently runni -> around thirty three thousand per day. -> -> These figures are averaged over a weeks time. The busiest day is -> thursday when traffic can be half again the average and can easily be -> over 100 meg after it's uncompressed. -> Hmm.... Looks like I will be adding that extra half gig to the server sooner than I thought!!! Thanks, Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSS CROOK Number: 2048 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/09/94 11:22a Subj: AD (Author Direct) FDN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 06 Jan 94 00:23, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> There will be an Author Direct FDN from Richard Holler going over the BG> sat in about a day or two. This FDN contains author direct shareware BG> programs and is intended for Planet Connect subscribers *ONLY*. One of the BG> conditions that has been agreed apond by P.S.I. and Richard Holler is that BG> these file areas *CAN NOT* be distributed beyond the receiving system. BG> That means that these files are not allowed to be passed on to other BBS's BG> by any means. They are for posting on your BBS only. If anyone is BG> caught passing these on with thier tics by any means will result in PC BG> loosing its authority to pick these up and pass them on to you and could Duh, am I missing something here?? I thought that one of the reasons that FDNs were created in the first place was to expedite the distribution of files and file areas to as many systems that wished to participate. Possible scenarios: 1) In our net, one of the members (Scott) decided in November to purchase PC and did so and the net voted to re-imburse him (there had been previous discussion on whether the net should get into PC 'now' or in a couple of months "when all the bugs had been worked out" with the result that we got into it 'justaboutnow'). Scott now passes on the file/message areas to 3 designated 'major' file/message hubs for distribution to the other hubs for distribution to the other members of the net. BUT if he passes on the 'AD' file areas he is in trouble. 2) The NEC in a net happens to run on an Amiga (or Mac or anything not DOS) and does not run a BBS so when the 'AD' files come in he just deletes them because he is not allowed to pass them on to anyone else. 3) Scott gets the files in, doesn't pass them on and puts them on his BBS for downloading. A user calls his board and downloads the file and then calls 4 other boards and uploads the files. Three of the boards that he uploads the file to are members of the local Fido Net that Scott was not allowed to 'pass' the files onto. Is Scott in trouble because this happened or should he set up a separate 'AD' file area and post a bulletin that any files downloaded from this area cannot be uploaded to any other bulletin boards and any BBS in the area that get an upload from a user should immediately send off a netmail message to Scott inquiring if the uploaded file could possibly have originated from his 'AD' file area. Of course the one BBS that isn't part of the local Fido Net doesn't care where the file came from. Am I missing something or am I just dumb? If one board has 100 users that download a particular shareware file and 3 people register the program perhaps if 3 boards each had 100 users download the file the author might get 9 registrations for the program. What you have just asked/stated just doesn't make any sense to me. Russ --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1114 * Origin: --> Cobalt's Haven 204-832-9603, Wpg. <-- (1:348/402) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2049 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/09/94 5:05p Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Since newsgroups are supposedly coming over the sat soon - I don't su -> would be possible to get a list of those that will be coming accross -> ones that won't) so that we can start setting our systems up for it? -> thought. hmmmmmmm....... the phrase I remember hearing was "the entire usenet new feed"..... I am going to be VERY disappointed if that isn't so... cheers... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARYL TURNER Number: 2050 To: RUSS CROOK Date: 01/10/94 12:49a Subj: Re: AD (Author Direct) FDN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <09-Jan-94 11:22:34> Russ Crook (1:348/402) wrote: RC> Am I missing something or am I just dumb? If one board has 100 users RC> that download a particular shareware file and 3 people register the RC> program perhaps if 3 boards each had 100 users download the file the RC> author might get 9 registrations for the program. What you have just RC> asked/stated just doesn't make any sense to me. If you're dumb, then can I join you in the Dumb Club? I cannot see the reason for trying to limit the distribution of files so much as well, especially when those are the files that users will die for in the hunt for 'new files' to upload to other boards to maintain any sysop-imposed ratios. Daryl SDM348 --- * Origin: Foozling it all out in Headingley, MB (1:348/701) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2051 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/09/94 7:34p Subj: Pkt Sort Utility Idea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, there's a little utility making the rounds that will sort your packets by area so your mail tosser can process them more quickly. In my testing here it seems to double the speed of my processor, whereas the author says it speeds up Squish 5x. Have you tinkered with it yet? If we could bribe you into trying it out and maybe running it then everyone who downlinks from Planet Connect would see the increases! PSRT_11B.ZIP 112274 01-09-94 PacketSorter v1.1b (bug fixed version) (Bound executable for DOS & OS/2 operating systems.) --- RBBSMail/386 v0.991 * Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1) (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2052 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/08/94 3:24p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > of 4 hours dinking with all that apogee software.. pulling out all > the .diz files, and merging them into my file directories. It was a I have a batch file that extracts the FILE_ID.DIZ files, puts them into a FILES.DIR, all automatically. It then takes about 10 minutes with a text editor to get it into the format that TBBS expects for a psuedo-directory. It's the same one I use for the monthly ASP shipment. So, yes, I'd *rather* have the stuff with .TIC's, but can live without them if it's not a steady thing. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 2053 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/09/94 8:52p Subj: Hayes 28.8 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, If you do have a line with a Hayes 28.8 to receive upstream ECHO mail bundles, would you be so kind to post the phone number so that I may make use of it. Best Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Region Hub Calgary (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2054 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/09/94 10:52a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> What issue was this in? Was it the one where they discussed OneBBSCon?. >> Or have they had a more indepth look at PC since that issue, like they >> said they would. I keep meaning to send my subscription out for > No they haven't had a more indepth look at PC. And > they missed Boyd when he had his two days off (that > scoundrel ;) Hmm.. I just read the Jan. Issue of BW, and it looks as someone wrote a small article on his experience with the PC system, and setting it up. Hopefully there will be more than just this coming out for BoardWatch. Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2055 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/09/94 10:56a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> What issue was this in? Was it the one where they discussed OneBBSCo >-> have they had a more indepth look at PC since that issue, like they s >-> would. I keep meaning to send my subscription out for Boardwatch, bu >-> end up putting it off. > It was the first issue I ever read. I believe it > to be September or > October. It was the one with just the review of > OneBBScon. Yeah, thats also the one where they had a picture of Andrew Milner... (RA Programmer..).. Also it's funny, but they had a picture of the PC Satellite system with a caption (Yes, Os/2 Does to Satellites) [not an exact quote]. Which there still is no work-around for getting the dongle to work with OS/2... Finally did mail out the subscription tho..:) Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE MURRAY Number: 2056 To: ALL Date: 01/09/94 2:04p Subj: Information Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How does a person go about getting Information on the PC system? Mike.... --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Beemer Board Escalon_CA 1-209-983-0625 USR HST/V32.t (1:208/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2057 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/07/94 8:08p Subj: Re: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Tu 04-Jan-94 16:29, Robert Hilgar wrote: RH> downlinks. I feel this is good. I can process a full days RH> feed here (Let's say 30,000 messages approx. 30-35 Does anyone have some actual stats on the number of messages that go through PlanetC in the various formats/types? (IE, Fido, QWK, UseNet, etc..). --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner, ZyX19.2k (613)521-0455 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY WAGNER Number: 2058 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/10/94 9:52a Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Wednesday January 05 1994 12:31, John Lundell wrote to George Vandervort: ->> 9/999.999) ->> * 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 ->> : 03 Jan 20:25:21 BINK SysOp: **ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ->> ACCESS from **ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ACCESS**ILLEGAL ->> ACCESS**ILLEGAL JL> I too get that on occasion... That is a PASSWORD error.. you MUST be sure and add the SAME password on ALL aka's, D'Bridge/All EMSI systems check ALL aka's for the correct password. I recomend on multiline systems like mine that you setup a common to all directory and put the SESSION.PAS or whatever you want to call it file with the session passwords in it Tnen point ALL systems to that file. I do the same with my AREAFIX.PAS file. Tony Wagner 1st Choice Communications I II III IV Voice # 503-224-6900 105/1,2,3,4 FAX # 503-291-1886 Why stop now, just when I'm hating it? --- D'Bridge Synchronet & GoldED/2 2.42.G1218+REG#1499US3 * Origin: 1st Choice Communications [H16, V.32ter, V.42bis] (Fidonet 1:105/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 2059 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/10/94 10:13a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> thursday when traffic can be half again the average and can easily be >-> over 100 meg after it's uncompressed. > Hmm.... > Looks like I will be adding that extra half > gig to the server sooner than I thought!!! Hello Fred: Just a thought......but are you aware of the echo called..PCSITES.. which comes over the satellite link and it is restricted for satellite downlink systems to use....? Regards.....Murray --- SuperBBS and PTQWK....! * Origin: The Annex BBS, Nanaimo, BC, Canada 604-756-1521 (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2060 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/10/94 10:17p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messages -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, because -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I got -> these? Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2061 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/10/94 10:28p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No @02@NOTE: This message was originally addressed to TIM LAJOIE @02@and was forwarded to you by JOHN LYON -------------------- -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messages -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, because -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I got -> these? Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2062 To: ALL Date: 01/10/94 9:11p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! I am sitting here ready to roll with this PC. But I do have a few questions i would like to ask first to help me get a better understanding: 1) the file I FReq'd (Satelite.Zip) is date Sept 1993. ARe the prices in there still valid or do i need to get a newer file? 2) I only have 26 messages in this area right now.... And all seems well, but how is the reliability of this system? 3) From what I understand I will be receiving the entire Fido Net Backbone. My question now is how to I send replies? PC is a receive only system unless I have missed something here. Am I to assume that the packets going back up the feed chain are to go the conventional telephone line & Hub system. I ask because I need to know if I am going to kill our net's "contact" with the RHub that I currently poll. If I am assuming correctly in the above how do I receive mail from one source and send to another..... I have already figured that I would have to different configurations for my Tosser. One for tossing to the system and another for tossing out of the net... Just wondering what the others out here are doing. 4) Could someone give me a basic rundown on how this system works? Would I have my mailer error out for and event and fire up software to run PC and receive my feed? Also i am running two nodes under DV, Does that present a problem? 5) I am also assuming that Boyd Goodin is the contact person for PC?!?!?! Thanks for putting up with these questions. Any and all replies will be greatly appreciated... I think this is what I want... just need to make sure (Hopefully it is... I am ready to roll - grin). Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2063 To: ALL Date: 01/10/94 9:23p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! It's me again... the new guy dying to get into this and full of questions... I had thought that UseNet was already being provided via PC. From what I have read (and again I only have 26 messages in this area so far) it appears that it isn't on feed .... Are there any future plans to send it up to the bird? If so will there be an additional cost for this above and beyond the normal service fee for PC and the fee we are paying for UseNet? Just wondering... Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 2064 To: CAM PRENTIS Date: 01/10/94 10:34p Subj: Equipment Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Cam! 06 Jan 94, Cam Prentis writes to Tim Bellaart: CP> Sent my M.O. away on the first of December and got may receiver Jan. 5. It CP> was shipped on Dec. 29, so you should have it soon. Thanks for the note Cam. I've since received everything and all appears to be running fine! Now comes all the work getting the software configured :-( and start filling those hard drives! Hummm, I'd better start looking at that contract thingy again :-) BTW, as Dave said, there was a delay getting the receivers from the supplier in Ottawa. Tim --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS - CALGARY, AB CANADA (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES NERLINGER Number: 2065 To: ALL Date: 01/11/94 4:28a Subj: PC & Security. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is there a method by which a network can be encrypted so as to allow only certain systems to receive the mail? James. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Access Information Services --> FIDONet (1:108/155) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL LANSALL Number: 2066 To: ALL Date: 01/11/94 4:33a Subj: MDN-Macintosh Distribution Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi. I don't know much about Planet Connect. Our sysop here is relatively new to it too. When he first started, a couple of megs of Mac files came down throught the MDN-Macintosh Distribution Network. Now since early Sept, there hasn't been a single file. Does anybody know what's wrong? Do you know what's being done to fix it? and finally, does anyone know when it will start up again? Daniel Lansall 1:359/230.1 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2067 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/11/94 5:34p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > In a message of Tu 04-Jan-94 16:29, Robert Hilgar > wrote: > RH> downlinks. I feel this is good. I can process a full days > RH> feed here (Let's say 30,000 messages approx. 30-35 > Does anyone have some actual stats on the number of > messages that go through PlanetC in the various > formats/types? (IE, Fido, QWK, UseNet, etc..). There is a base called PCSTATS I beleive is the name. That contains the stats of the echomail for Fidonet. It's updated every day. Take a look at that. It just has info on the Fido bases.. Bill --- * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2068 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 01/11/94 5:51p Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Foxy! In a message to Dave Osborne <01/10/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> DO>In a msg on , Randy Blackmond writes: FF> DO> RB>Looks like Boyd found the problem (DOS 6). I hear from reliable FF> DO> RB>tech people that if you want to go with DOS above 5.0, stick with FF> DO> RB>PC-DOS and avoid MS-DOS. FF> DO>Dos 6 is known as "Gates Virus". Rumor has it they needed something t FF> DO>persuade more people to try Windoze NT. :-) FF> chuckle... anybody for Dr.Dos 7 ? Is it out yet? Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2069 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/11/94 5:53p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! In a message to George Vandervort <01/10/94> Terry Blount wrote: TB> George Vandervort wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> GV> Hello Terry! TB> GV> Thanks for the DIZ2BBS.ZIP file... TB> GV> it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that TB> GV> were orphanded :-) TB> Glad you found it useful ...it took me all day to write it. TB> Unfortunately if there is no File_id.diz there is nothing short TB> of manually reading the docs that anyone can do to get a TB> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the TB> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be TB> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me TB> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use TB> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the TB> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work. Try the append to a file function ">>" works without overwritting the previous line. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Become a programmer and never see the world!! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2070 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/11/94 7:39p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. I should have it fixed now. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2071 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/11/94 8:01p Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. Any time table for it to work under OS/2 yet? --- RBBSMail/386 v0.991 * Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1) (1:380/14.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2072 To: ALL Date: 01/11/94 11:41p Subj: Status Report... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm patiently waiting.. but I need update reports RIMEnet ILink Usenet (entire) How are they going? Hope RIME will be soon! It's my KEY long distance connect right now and will reduce my phone bill by TONS.... --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2073 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/10/94 5:43p Subj: SIG Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to insert it > JD> in every message you post? > Sorry about that.. it is a "SIG" that is automaticly appended to every > message for every user. AARRRGGGGHHHHH!!! And then, you attach it again! How are we every going to train our users to not over-quote and put all that excess garbage into the echos if we do it ourselves? I just saw a message with 2 screens of quotes and 2 lines of original material. Somewhere, someone is paying serious amounts of $$$ to haul over-quotes and your $%#@!% BBS ad around the country. It is not only unnecessary, but annoying as well. I'm making a formal request to you to cease and desist; there's a place for BBS ads, and that's in the BBS_ADS echo. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2074 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/11/94 8:08p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim St. John wrote in a message to All: JSJ> PC doesn't strip the seen-bys do they? And none of this JSJ> explains (to me at least) why the dupe-checking is missing JSJ> them.... No but your message tosser may do dupes by a different method than seen-by comparision (eg - MSGID #). Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2075 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/11/94 1:06p Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> hmmmmmmm....... the phrase I remember hearing was "the entire -> usenet new feed"..... -> -> I am going to be VERY disappointed if that isn't so... A conversation with the folks at PC yesterday yielded: "90-95%, but probably no 'x-rated' stuff". Sounds like no "alt.sex"! And they are still working on pricing apparently. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2076 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/11/94 9:01p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to Thomas Kinnen <01/10/94> Jim St. John wrote: JS> I realize they should be coming back to me in the data stream. But I JS> have my dupe level at 40,000 so I'm sure that's not the problem. JS> And even if they were not caught as a dupe for some reason, shouldn't JS> they get discarded anyway because of the seen-by lines? JS> That's what's got me *really* confused! That's part of the reason I use Gecho to preprocess the mail for the net. WildMail gave me a ton of problems with seen-by's and paths and GoMail does it fine but is too slow due to the Btrive Databases WC uses to process the entire feed for the net. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2077 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/11/94 9:19p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I had thought that UseNet was already being provided via PC. From wh -> read (and again I only have 26 messages in this area so far) it appea -> isn't on feed .... Are there any future plans to send it up to the bi -> If so will there be an additional cost for this above and beyond the -> service fee for PC and the fee we are paying for UseNet? Don, this is from a conversation I had with the folks at PC on Monday: The Usenet feeds will begin after they get their ISDN line installed, this was supposed to be this week sometime. They will begin gradually and ramp it up over time. They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably not the 'x-rated' stuff. They are still working on a pricing structure for folks who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2078 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 01/11/94 6:21p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Fred: -> Just a thought......but are you aware of the echo called..PCSITES -> comes over the satellite link and it is restricted for satellite down -> systems to use....? No, not at all!! And since I have squish set to toss everything, OR, keep the bad messsages to toss later, then why haven't I seen them laying around??? All along I've felt that PC should have an info file that is updated and sent out describing all the options and resources that are comming down off the bird. Sure wish there was one. Or is there one and I've missed that too??? In any event, what do I have to do to get it??? Thanks, Fred P.S., Well, I just called PC. Seems that it's restricted alright, but I'll have to call back on Wed to get an answer as to why I'm not getting it. That person with the answer is not in right now. Oh well!!!! Anyone out there have a copy of "The Hitch-hikers guide to Planet Connect" ???? <:) --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2079 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/11/94 6:23p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> -> these? -> -> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. -> -> Ditto, Two days in a row now. BUT, the probelm that this causes is that my system wanted to send them to George Peace at Protostar!! Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up, FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!! Oh well!!! --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 2080 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 01/10/94 7:24p Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On <08 Jan, 13:31>, Foxy Ferguson wrote to Jim Dunmyer : FF> JD> We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to insert FF> JD>it in every message you post? Or am I the only one irritated by this FF> JD>sort of excess baggage? FF> FF> Nope. I call it "annoying"... may be "excessively annoying" soon ... you must not get/read and sort of USENET areas or have seen any message from a Waffle system?????? all users can create their own sig files (which is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are various ways to reach me. Besides the fact that you are not the moderator, and I have not see any rules against any "SIGNATURE FILE" in this or any fido echo! <* Michael *> MRTG: A dirty book is seldom dusty. *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/81.5 | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2081 To: ALL Date: 01/11/94 2:53p Subj: Hooray! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glad to see this one finaly made it on the bone! Anyone ever notice how the files are written to the hard drive? If you don't use some kind of disk cache, the hd light will blink at the same rate as the blocks being recieved. To avoid this (and make hd last longer) install a disk cache and set the Long write delay to maximum (or a large number) that way it will not attempt to write to the hard drive until the file has been TOTALY recieved.. I use Lancache here with excellent results. Set LONG_WRITE_DELAY=3600 -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2082 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/11/94 6:23p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GV> Thanks for the DIZ2BBS.ZIP file... > > GV> it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that > GV> were orphanded :-) > > Glad you found it useful ...it took me all day to write it. Terry... I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got your ABOUT file in return... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2083 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/11/94 4:05p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> -> these? -> -> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. -> -> -> --- WM v3.10/92-0069 -> * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) -> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you know what that does to message pointers (g)..... is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other Wildcat tossers experiencing this? Bill.... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2084 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/11/94 4:10p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> 1) the file I FReq'd (Satelite.Zip) is date Sept 1993. ARe the price -> still valid or do i need to get a newer file? I think the prices are still valid, but of course a phone call will confirm that..... -> 2) I only have 26 messages in this area right now.... And all seems w -> how is the reliability of this system? I've been online for about two weeks now and it is WUNNNNERFULLLLLL... -> 3) From what I understand I will be receiving the entire Fido Net Bac -> question now is how to I send replies? PC is a receive only system u -> have missed something here. Am I to assume that the packets going ba -> feed chain are to go the conventional telephone line & Hub system. I -> because I need to know if I am going to kill our net's "contact" with -> that I currently poll. in your tosser you set up an AKA of 1:3615/51... your UPLINK is 1:3615/50, and yes, you get back into the system by the traditional method of enriching Ma Bell... back to PC at 1:3615/50..... and you do kill your conventional hub, but you still need to poll periodically for routed netmail.... -> If I am assuming correctly in the above how do I receive mail from on -> and send to another..... I have already figured that I would have to -> configurations for my Tosser. One for tossing to the system and anot -> tossing out of the net... Just wondering what the others out here are only one configuration... the aka allows the incoming stuff to come into your system... -> 4) Could someone give me a basic rundown on how this system works? W -> have my mailer error out for and event and fire up software to run PC -> receive my feed? Also i am running two nodes under DV, Does that pr -> problem? that's exactly what I do, except I do it on a LAN... I don't think you will be disappointed... cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2085 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/12/94 7:28a Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Unfortunately if there is no File_id.diz there is nothing short -> of manually reading the docs that anyone can do to get a -> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the -> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be -> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me -> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use -> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the -> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work. Terry I remember you talking about this earlier, but don't remember the specifics. If you could re-post a specific description of what you are trying to do with ARJ I will forward it to the Rime ARJ conference, the author hangs out there, and I suspect he would know if anyone would! -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2086 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 1:30p Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Murray Pletsch: -> Hello Fred: -> Just a thought......but are you aware of the echo called..PCSITES -> comes over the satellite link and it is restricted for satellite down -> systems to use....? FS> No, not at all!! FS> And since I have squish set to toss everything, OR, FS> keep the bad messsages to toss later, then why haven't FS> I seen them laying around??? FS> In any event, what do I have to do to get it??? Try adding PCSITES to your squish.cfg.....You are definately getting it if you are getting the mail.... FS> Well, I just called PC. FS> Seems that it's restricted alright, but I'll have to FS> call back on Wed to get an answer as to why I'm not getting FS> it. That person with the answer is not in right now. Its only restricted in the sense that it is a 'for your eyes only' if you are a PC downlink. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2087 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 01/12/94 7:39p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tuesday January 11 1994 18:23, John Burton wrote to Terry Blount: >> GV> Thanks for the DIZ2BBS.ZIP file... >> >> GV> it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that >> GV> were orphanded :-) >> >> Glad you found it useful ...it took me all day to write it. JB> Terry... JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got your ABOUT JB> file in return... JB> JB> --==jb==-- JB> -+- TMail v1.31.5 JB> + Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34) Hello John! the Trick is to use ONLY "DIZ2BBS" not ZIP and No wildcard.. however, You can also Get it from my address below by the full file name.. DIZ2BBS.ZIP it works great.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2088 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 01/12/94 6:51p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JS> I realize they should be coming back to me in the data stream. B -> JS> have my dupe level at 40,000 so I'm sure that's not the problem. -> JS> And even if they were not caught as a dupe for some reason, shoul -> JS> they get discarded anyway because of the seen-by lines? -> JS> That's what's got me *really* confused! -> -> That's part of the reason I use Gecho to preprocess the mail for the -> WildMail gave me a ton of problems with seen-by's and paths and GoMai -> does it fine but is too slow due to the Btrive Databases WC uses to -> process the entire feed for the net. It's hard to imagine anything slower than Wildmail! What exactly does Gecho do? -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2089 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/12/94 3:46p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim St. John wrote in a message to Don Waybright: JSJ> They will begin gradually and ramp it up over time. JSJ> They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably JSJ> not the 'x-rated' stuff. I have heard that the sex stuff and binary sex stuff is 40-50% of the usenet backbone. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2090 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/11/94 10:56p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> -> these? -> -> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. Well, its now the 11th, at 10:55pm EST, and I just finished tossing the days feed. Today we had 264 GRUNGED "so called" Netmail messages. Anybody have a clue about what the heck is going on here? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 2091 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 10:20a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> Just a thought......but are you aware of the echo called..PCSITES > No, not at all!! Thats what I thought. > Sure wish there was one. > Or is there one and I've missed that too??? Well there are some new info files they are sending out now, should be in your SKYDATA directory. > In any event, what do I have to do to get it??? Hmmm.....the PCSITES echo has always been in the daily dump. For the life of me I do not know why you would not be getting it. > call back on Wed to get an answer as to why I'm not getting > it. That person with the answer is not in right now. Rots a ruck....! Regards.....Murray --- SuperBBS and PTQWK....! * Origin: The Annex BBS, Nanaimo, BC, Canada 604-756-1521 (1:351/401) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2092 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/12/94 12:04p Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> hmmmmmmm....... the phrase I remember hearing was "the entire -> -> usenet new feed"..... -> -> -> -> I am going to be VERY disappointed if that isn't so... -> -> A conversation with the folks at PC yesterday yielded: "90-95%, but -> probably no 'x-rated' stuff". Sounds like no "alt.sex"! And they ar -> still working on pricing apparently. that is going to be a BIG disappointement to many users..... (including me...) cheers.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2093 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/12/94 8:07p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/11/94> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. TL> I should have it fixed now. TL> See ya Todd Hope da dingy is fixed, gets old deleting messages out of front door. By the way what was it anayway. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * It's a great place, and the drinks are cold! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2094 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/12/94 8:13p Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Michael! In a message to Foxy Ferguson <01/10/94> Michael Pierce wrote: MP> FF> JD> We've all seen your BBS ad several times, is it necessary to inse MP> FF> JD>it in every message you post? Or am I the only one irritated by th MP> FF> JD>sort of excess baggage? MP> FF> MP> FF> Nope. I call it "annoying"... may be "excessively annoying" soon ... MP> *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* MP> | FidoNET: 1:105/81.5 EchoNET: 50:5017/ MP> | InterNET: Michael.Pierce@p5.f81.n105.z1.fidonet.org MP> *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* You almost got it, now how about all the *=*'s, we can do without this excess bagage as well. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * KLEPTOMANIA! Take something for it! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2095 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/13/94 3:07a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE me -> -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, be -> -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why -> -> -> these? -> -> -> -> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. -> -> -> -> -> -> Ditto, -> Two days in a row now. -> -> BUT, the probelm that this causes is that -> my system wanted to send them to George Peace -> at Protostar!! -> -> Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up, -> FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!! Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again today! This is about 6 days in a row! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2096 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/13/94 12:51a Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. -> -> I should have it fixed now. Hmmmm, just finished tossing the 12th's mail about 3 hours ago and still ended up with another 62 grunged NetMail messages. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 2097 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 10:06p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FS>BUT, the probelm that this causes is that FS>my system wanted to send them to George Peace FS>at Protostar!! FS>Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up, FS>FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!! Same here, I'm running Wildcat BBS software and am unable to delete them from my message base. I get a database error stating that there is an invalid key (index) to the database. I wind up checking my netmail area for anything new that is valid and hasn't been sent off yet, moving it to another conference and deleting all files associated with my netmail area and letting it build a new one them moving the valid messages back so they can go out. It's really a pain. If I don't, the next time I collect all outgoing mail, it'll pick them up and send them on downstream, repeatedly. It doesn't catch that they've already been sent either. I've learned to check my netmail area daily after the mail has been processed to keep from sending these back to the backbone. Bob * OLX 2.1 TD * Cardassian Burger: How many pickles do you see? --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2098 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/10/94 4:33p Subj: Re: UseNet and Stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [%%} A MSG dated 01-09-94, was written to Tim Lajoie by Boyd Goodin {%%] BG> > Boyd, any word on when the UseNet feed is going to start coming BG> > over? Are you going to start with the ENTIRE feed, or maybe build its BG> > way up a bit? BG> BG> Hopefully within the next week and we are going to BG> gradually biuld it up. Wont not want to fill anybodies HD BG> up! ;-) Care to give an indepth explaination about this? What is necessary to process these files? Who do I contact? There are a lot of grey areas here that need to be cleared up please. --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 2099 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/12/94 1:45p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. TL> TL> I should have it fixed now. SHAME on you........really If you were, THANKS for finding and correcting that problem....AND admitting it Those messages were really causing me to have to perform alot of "operator intervention" here... Emmett MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2100 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/13/94 7:48p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bill! In a message to John Lyon <01/11/94> Bill Roper wrote: BR> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, BR> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't BR> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you BR> know what that does to message pointers (g)..... I'm not haveing a problem with them but I am pretossing the packets with Gecho on a seperate node. I have found in the past if you get grabage messages in Wildcat that deleteing the messages with WCPRO usually fixes them with no need to WcRepair. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Pi R Squared? No. Pie R round, Cornbread R square! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2101 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 7:53p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to Thomas Kinnen <01/12/94> Jim St. John wrote: JS> It's hard to imagine anything slower than Wildmail! What exactly does JS> Gecho do? Actually GoMail is Faster Then WildMail (at least in my setup <---) Gecho is a Hudson/Msg message base echo processor and get about 600-900 Msg/min when doing passthrough. All mail from Planet Connect is received on 371/3901 and Gecho forwards it to the rest of my net inculding my own bbs 371/39 (3901 never touches my message base and never touches the BBS except to pass human callers to it). The other Wilcat sysop in the are uses GoMail and carries the entire BackBone and it takes him 3-7 hours to toss, where Gecho takes less then and hour to toss and packet all the out bound mail. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Pick two: [1] Fast [2] Right [3] Cheap --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2102 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 5:12p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> -> these? -> -> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. -> -> Same thing here. I'm getting 10 or so garbage messages tossed to my Netmail area per toss. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 2103 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/13/94 3:26a Subj: Signature File!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP>FF> Nope. I call it "annoying"... may be "excessively annoying" soon ... MP> you must not get/read and sort of USENET areas or have seen any MP> message from a Waffle system?????? Nope. Never bothered with UseLessNet stuff. MP> all users can create their own sig files (which MP> is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest MP> are various ways to reach me. Is that what it is? Ummmm. MP>Besides the fact that you are not the moderator, and I have not see any MP>rules against any "SIGNATURE FILE" in this or any fido echo! Sorry. Just been plagued recently by a smart-assed punk sysop who keeps attaching five and six-line sig files to his one-line wise-cracks. And, no, I haven't seen any rules against it either. So I'll endeavor not to be annoyed by yours. Regards, Foxy --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 2104 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/13/94 3:42a Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>Hello Foxy! How do, Joe. Nice to hear from neighbors. JL>In a message to Dave Osborne <01/10/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote: JL>FF> chuckle... anybody for Dr.Dos 7 ? JL> Is it out yet? Not 'sfar as I know. I'm looking for it. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2105 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 01/13/94 11:29p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You can't expect your tosser not to toss messages that have your node -> SEEN-BY line. After all, in a conventional setup, all messages arrivi -> bundles for you have your node number in the SEEN-BYs. -> -> As to why your dupe checker is not catching them, what tosser are you I guess that makes sense. I'm using Wildmail. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 2106 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 7:28p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > -> I had thought that UseNet was already being provided via PC. From > wh-> read (and again I only have 26 messages in this area so far) it > appea-> isn't on feed .... Are there any future plans to send it > up to the bi > -> If so will there be an additional cost for this above and beyond > the-> service fee for PC and the fee we are paying for UseNet? > > Don, this is from a conversation I had with the folks at PC on > Monday: > The Usenet feeds will begin after they get their ISDN line > installed, > this was supposed to be this week sometime. ISDN lines are in and equipment is being installed. Should be ready within 3-5 days at most. (I think) We will increase the feed tonight so by the time you read this, you should have increased by quite a lot. We hope to have it up to full capacity by middle of next week, barring any unforeseen problems. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2107 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 8:07p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->I realize they should be coming back to me in the data stream. But I ->have my dupe level at 40,000 so I'm sure that's not the problem. ->And even if they were not caught as a dupe for some reason, shouldn't ->they get discarded anyway because of the seen-by lines? ->That's what's got me *really* confused! I sent Derek K. (WildMail) a message on this this morning. I don't think WM is looking at your main address when the AKA is kicked in. Hope to hear from him shortly. BTW, my dupe level is 65,000 and I get my own messages tossed right back in when received. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2108 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/13/94 5:48a Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > you must not get/read and sort of USENET areas or have seen any message > from a Waffle system?????? all users can create their own sig files > (which > is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are > various ways to reach me. It's redundant is the point here, Michael... Your ORIGIN line tells us how to reach you.. The EchoNet stuff is nice to know, but not necessary, the InterNET address is just a "gateway" FidoNet address. In other words, it's NOT a unique address. I think what folks are trying to tell you is simply that your continued addition of unnecessary junk is not appreciated... If you wish to list your addresses, why not make sure they're unique addresses, not just reconstituted FidoNET addresses.... If you wish to advertise your system's existance, why not turn on BBS_ADS... Comments invited in NetMail or to john.burton@sandbox.nova.com --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2109 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/13/94 5:31p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/12/94> Terry Blount wrote: TB> JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: TB> TB> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the TB> TB> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be TB> TB> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me TB> TB> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use TB> TB> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the TB> TB> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work. TB> JL> Try the append to a file function ">>" works without TB> JL> overwritting the previous line. TB> That doesn't work either. Only the text in the File_id.diz is saved to t TB> file. The file name that it came from (which is written to the screen) i TB> saved in the output file. TB> Try this: TB> arj s -y * *.diz >> outfile TB> Even thought the file name is echoed to the screen it won't TB> appear in the "outfile" with the .diz text. Well try this and it will work to the file but no echo to screen arj l *.sdn *.diz >> outfile Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Now where did I put that fire extinguisher? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 2110 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/13/94 7:47p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TL> Well, its now the 11th, at 10:55pm EST, and I just finished tossing TL> the days feed. Today we had 264 GRUNGED "so called" Netmail messages. TL> Anybody have a clue about what the heck is going on here? I've been getting them pretty much every day for the last few days. They are more than likely grunged echomail messages that the mailer/tosser can't figure out so it treats them as net messages. This bothers me because that means we're LOSING MAIL! A lot of people think "so I lost a couple hundred (or even a thousand) messages today... big deal. There'll be plenty more tomorrow." That's bad. I've had messages addressed to me that I read in an echo on the originating system never make it down to my system over the satellite. That's bad news, especially for a shareware author who tries to provide echomail support! I guess all we can do is hope all these little glitches get ironed out SOON. Land lines are looking better and better all the time... What's the point in having cheap mail if it's unreliable? I'd rather pay more and be more confident that my outbound and inbound mail will get to where it's supposed to. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Randy's Basement * El Paso,TX * 915-587-6321 (1:381/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2111 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/13/94 6:46p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got > JB> your ABOUT file in return... > > I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are > getting it and some don't? Thanks, Terry... POLL aCommin'.... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2112 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/13/94 10:23p Subj: FILE ANNOUNCEMENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > "When are you going to make an OS/2 version?" > > Go away. Use your DOS box. :-) I loved this line. Just for that I'll have to have a look at psort. Incoming FREQ. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2113 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/13/94 1:09p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. You should be flogged with a wet noddle for at least 15 mins! :) --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2114 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/13/94 12:29p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail. > Hope da dingy is fixed, gets old deleting messages out of front door. > By the way what was it anayway. Forward-for all Except 1:3615/50 I added the second line and it quit routing them all back to Boyd. If they're still coming in then it's no longer my fault :) That's assuming that my return-routed netmail even made it past 3615/50 to 3615/51. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2115 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/13/94 5:30p Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are > various ways to reach me. > Besides the fact that you are not the moderator, and I have not see any > rules against any "SIGNATURE FILE" in this or any fido echo! Michael, It's not a matter of "the rules" banning signature files or excessive quoting, for that matter, it's just plain manners. I read echos for information, and in some cases, entertainment. Excess baggage in messages detracts severely from both, IMO. We don't really need all those "various ways to reach" you, either, all we need is a Fido address, as we're all in FidoNet. Let's extrapolate a bit: What if everyone, in every conference, added all that crap, starting with the top of the message: "On Jan. 11, Michael Pierce mumbled to Foxy Ferguson:" (Isn't this information in the message header displayed on your board? It is on mine.) And ended with a signature file similar to yours? That would add immensely to the traffic volume, and to what purpose? NONE! And, I frankly don't CARE with the Usenet/Internet newsgroups have in their message headers. I've seen that stuff, and feel exactly the same way about it. Until getting my PC setup, I paid serious money every single month to the TelCo to import echomail for our Net. Much of that money was wasted, simply hauling around garbage such as your "signature file". Many people are still handling echomail via TelCo, and are STILL paying to transport that overhead. What you are saying in essence is, "I am vain, and I'm going to attach my signature file to every message, and I don't CARE *what* it costs you. Tough!" --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2116 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/13/94 5:33p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No > If you don't use some kind of disk cache, the hd light will blink at > the same rate as the blocks being recieved. > To avoid this (and make hd last longer) install a disk cache and set Joe, I don't think I'd worry about it. First of all, it's probably not going to affect your HD life to any great degree, and one reason is that the writes mostly involve NO mechanical head movement if you're running on a dedicated machine. It is a bit different, of course, if you're multi-tasking. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BELLAART Number: 2117 To: JUSTIN MCDERMID Date: 01/13/94 2:38a Subj: Dish size Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Justin! 11 Jan 94, Justin Mcdermid writes to All: JM> Does anyone in Canada run a C band receiver setup with the Planet connect JM> setup and if so, what size dish? I have access to a 9' dish and was JM> wondering if it would work at my latitude. I'm in the sunny Okanagan city JM> of Vernon, BC. just a bit north of Kelowna. Thanks. I've got an eight foot spun dish here Justin and it's working great since I installed the receiver last week. Please say hello to Jake Block (of 1:353/370) for me! :-) Tim --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: EXCESS - CALGARY, AB CANADA (403)285-7338 (HST-DS16.8) (1:134/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2118 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/14/94 8:04a Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thursday January 13 1994 03:07, John Lyon wrote to Fred Seibel: -> -> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE me -> -> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, be -> -> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why -> -> ->> these? -> ->> -> ->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. -> ->> -> ->> ->> ->> Ditto, ->> Two days in a row now. ->> ->> BUT, the probelm that this causes is that ->> my system wanted to send them to George Peace ->> at Protostar!! ->> ->> Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up, ->> FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!! JL> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again today! JL> This is about 6 days in a row! JL> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069 JL> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) Hello John! knock on wood.. :-) So far all Wed 12th and Thur. 13 mail bundles have process ok on my system without any problem.. and Wed was a BIG load of mail... I still don't really know what cause the corruption of my Message base on the 10th and 11th, except that PCUTILS allowed several Bad Bundles of Mail with CRC Errors to be moved to my TOSS Directory... Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILLY MORING Number: 2119 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 1:18a Subj: Test export Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboard, please send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working... Thanks Billy Moring --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: Moring Computer's Systems (904)376-9894*Gainesville, FL (1:3601/20) (1:3601/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BUCHANAN Number: 2120 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/13/94 7:58p Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey Boyd! what's up? In a msg of , Boyd Goodin wrote to Rudy Hehn about "Sorting": BG> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. When when-oh-when will it? I'd give my left tnu to go back to OS/2... * Origin: Inside Ok! - +1-417-624-0000 - Joplin, MO USA - (1:286/702) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2121 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 01/14/94 8:02a Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Rudy Hehn: CC> could help? I'm in the support business, and Lantastic is CC> one of the products we sell and support. I am not familiar with Lans at all. I currently use Fastwire to move files from one machine to another. Will Lantastic connect an IBM PS/2 Model 50 to a clone? Or, is ther any other Lan that will do this? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2122 To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 5:42a Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so. I've just ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when I take delivery.... :-) Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2123 To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 5:41p Subj: AD file areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Boy, that topic sure died a quick death! Have the AD file areas started coming in yet, so we great unwashed can get some programmer names to contact? Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL PIERCE Number: 2124 To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 11:40a Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted (except this one) have *ALL* had the signature file attached! If I was posting without one, then added one, you *might* have a reason to complain. you people really show a lack of brains or understanding when it comes to software! I see why you have soooooooooo many problems getting your feed setup correctly! I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks you jerks!) this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the message to respond! --- xMail 1.00/Pro * Origin: Our Country Kitchen Portland,OR (1:105/81.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2125 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/14/94 2:29p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> Joe, JD> I don't think I'd worry about it. First of all, it's probably not JD> going to affect your HD life to any great degree, and one reason is JD> that the writes mostly involve NO mechanical head movement if you're JD> running ona dedicated machine. It is a bit different, of course, if JD> you're multi-tasking. Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I can't see how you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a second isn't much different that once every few minutes. Apart from the mechanical movement of the accuator arm, the heads draw a small amount of current each time they are written with. I suppose you could (in a VERY broad term) say it was like switching a light bulb on/off 3 times a second versus 1 time a minute?? I know Light bulbs and Drive heads are different. I find that seeing the hd light only blinking when the entire file is written makes me feel a lot better.. Anyone else got any input?? -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2126 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 01/14/94 12:57p Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Foxy! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/13/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> JL>Hello Foxy! FF> How do, Joe. Nice to hear from neighbors. FF> JL>In a message to Dave Osborne <01/10/94> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> JL>FF> chuckle... anybody for Dr.Dos 7 ? FF> JL> Is it out yet? FF> Not 'sfar as I know. I'm looking for it. Me too. It sounds promising as a operating system though. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * PUT THE COMPUTER DOWN, HONEY..I'm quitting NOW! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2127 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/14/94 1:01p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/13/94> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> > TL> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail TL> > Hope da dingy is fixed, gets old deleting messages out of front door. TL> > By the way what was it anayway. TL> Forward-for all TL> Except 1:3615/50 TL> I added the second line and it quit routing them all back to Boyd. If th TL> still coming in then it's no longer my fault :) That's assuming that my TL> return-routed netmail even made it past 3615/50 to 3615/51. TL> See ya Todd Well I hope everyone can have the same success you have. Thanks. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Sometimes you just have to say 'What the heck' --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2128 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/14/94 7:06a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, -> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't -> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you -> know what that does to message pointers (g)..... Delete them with WCpro (if you have it) it works fine that way for me. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 2129 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/14/94 9:47p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount scripted in a message to Jim St. John: TB> Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_ TB> that is written to the screen to a file.... DOS's redirect functions > and >> will direct everything that goes to stdout; anything destined to stderr still goes to the screen. I'm still looking for a way to redirect the stderr stream ... ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2130 To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/14/94 9:13p Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kerry Sutley wrote in a message to All: KS> Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either KS> convert them to Fido msg format to be processed by my KS> tosser (GECHO) or a stand alone that will do both. Any Try Fred19Q.Arj ...... Fredgate will handle it and there are other options but none I've found to be easier while still doing a good job of conversion. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2131 To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/14/94 9:52a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Kerry Sutley babbled profusely in a message to All: KS> Hi Boyd and All, KS> Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either KS> convert them to Fido msg format to be processed by my KS> tosser (GECHO) or a stand alone that will do both. Any KS> Ideas out there??? The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in beta, and currently stands at a version number of ".96".. It does handle the .BAG format (which is really .x/.d files minux the .x file). If you're interested, file request "GIGO" from 1:203/7707. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2132 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 9:50p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Jim St. John to Don Waybright it was said: -> I had thought that UseNet was already being provided via PC. From wh JSJ> They will begin gradually and ramp it up over time. JSJ> They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably JSJ> not the 'x-rated' stuff. JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff. Thanks very much for the reply. Again, I am rareing to go on this. I have sent Boyd Goodin a NetMail message with a few questions and I have sent the PC people a FAX with the same questions. --- How long to you think it will be until I hear from them? How did the overall setup go with your system? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2133 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/13/94 9:56p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Bill Roper to Don Waybright it was said: BR> in your tosser you set up an AKA of 1:3615/51... your BR> UPLINK is 1:3615/50, and yes, you get back into the system BR> by the BR> traditional method of enriching Ma Bell... back to PC at BR> 1:3615/50..... and you do kill your conventional hub, but BR> you still need to poll periodically for routed netmail.... Great... this clear up alot... So it looks like 1:3615/50 will be going on "Yea ole Friends & Family" soon. BR> only one configuration... the aka allows the incoming stuff BR> to come into your system... Gotcha! -> 4) Could someone give me a basic rundown on how this system works? W -> have my mailer error out for and event and fire up software to run PC -> receive my feed? Also i am running two nodes under DV, Does that pr -> problem? BR> that's exactly what I do, except I do it on a LAN... Ok... sounds like a plan and i am glad to hear it works well on the LAN for you for that will be my next little project after this one (Yea so far it looks like I am going to make the plunge... I sent PC a Fax... Hope they got it and will respond soon with additional info... mayeb a follow up call would be a good idea) BR> I don't think you will be disappointed... Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy" it was to get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips for the really newcomers!? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 2134 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 01/13/94 6:19p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Burton, in a message to Terry Blount, you wrote: > GV> it helped create a File.bbs for those 64 APOGEE files that > GV> were orphanded :-) > > Glad you found it useful ...it took me all day to write it. JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got JB> your ABOUT file in return... John, You weren't the only one...:-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2135 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/14/94 9:48a Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Vandervort wrote in a message to Terry Blount: GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a GV> Magic name for File Request.. Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep by the time I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have set it up so it will come by asking for almost anything. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2136 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/14/94 9:51a Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: JL> Well try this and it will work to the file but no echo to JL> screen JL> arj l *.sdn *.diz >> outfile That command does not show the contents of the *.diz file so the description is not witten to the outfile... only the file name. Try this on a .zip file and then look at the outfile to see what is needed when I use Arj. pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2137 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/12/94 9:11p Subj: Re: Hooray! Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No JH>Anyone ever notice how the files are written to the hard drive? JH>If you don't use some kind of disk cache, the hd light will blink at JH>the same rate as the blocks being recieved. JH>To avoid this (and make hd last longer) install a disk cache and set JH>the Long write delay to maximum (or a large number) that way it will JH>not attempt to write to the hard drive until the file has been TOTALY JH>recieved.. I use Lancache here with excellent results. JH>Set LONG_WRITE_DELAY=3600 That looks like a very good solution to my problem. I am running a 286 for the planet, and it writes to the 486 hardrive. I only have one meg of ram, but do have two simm slots. How big of a cache_size are you setting? Could I get away with this with 2 more meg? Also, I read that only the dedicated server should have this. I am running both machines as servers, but if I only read the drive that gets written too with the 486..I suspect I should be safe. Any opinion on that? I'm new to Lan,but love it. [Jeff] --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2138 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 01/15/94 11:49a Subj: FILE ANNOUNCEMENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: > "When are you going to make an OS/2 version?" > > Go away. Use your DOS box. :-) TM> I loved this line. Just for that I'll have to have a look at TM> psort. Incoming FREQ. Give me another day, and there will be an OS/2 version (another sysop ported it for me). :-) I'm getting the final tweaks on the sorting done now, to handle various situations on split usenet messages. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2139 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 11:57a Subj: SIGNATURE FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > is what it is!) I will remove the BBS Name and Number but the rest are > various ways to reach me. JD> It's not a matter of "the rules" banning signature files or JD> excessive quoting, for that matter, it's just plain manners. ... JD> overhead. What you are saying in essence is, "I am vain, and JD> I'm going to attach my signature file to every message, and JD> I don't CARE *what* it costs you. Tough!" Another way to look at it. There are, for sake of argument, 700 long distance links. Actually, far more, but these are just the number of nets. I'm not going to count all of the long distance nodes within a net (we only have about a _dozen_ in ours alone), if you don't count the (comparatively) few number of P_C sites. Now, your extensive signature, each time you write your message, adds close to another 1k. Granted, that's small at high speed. But globally, multiply that by about 700. Okay, 700k ain't _quite_ as small. In US phone rates, which are the cheapest in the world for the most part, that's going to translate to an additional $1.50, for every extensive signature that's 10 yards long. Mind if we bill ya? The reason we gripe is because when there are more than just _you_ doing it, it starts adding up quite heavily. Anyone moving the mail and paying for it knows it. Jason Fesler --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2140 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/15/94 11:26p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No -> Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I can' -> you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a second isn't muc -> different that once every few minutes. -> Apart from the mechanical movement of the accuator arm, the heads dra -> amount of current each time they are written with. I agree with the original response. If you're not multi-tasking, then the drive isn't going to be seeking all over the place, and writing once per block doesn't involve any more head movement than if you cached. The current drawn by the head isn't really significant, I have never heard of a head burning out! In any case it's still 'six of one', you are writiing the same number of sectors overall, whether it's 1-2 at a time, or all at once. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2141 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/15/94 11:47p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason, I tried your psort program, and it works very well. For my purposes, I like the idea of being able to delete unwanted messages from the packets rather than have to delete them later. Since I'm using Maximus with OS/2 it takes a VARY LONG TIME to delete the unwanted messages (unlike DOS where it's almost instant). However, I don't like the idea of having to copy AREAS.BBS to the mail directory to accomplish this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2 1/2 to 5 minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional command line and find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location? BTW, your program does work in a DOS box in OS/2, but it doesn't trigger the DOS box like a normal DOS program. You have to make the DOS box first before it will run, so in order to get it to work you have to call it from a DOS .BAT file using the batch file to trigger the DOS box. My impression is that you are using Watcom to program with. Doesn't Watcom do OS/2?? If you need an OS/2 compiler, have you looked at the GNU EMX C/C++ compiler? You can turn out Family programs that run in both DOS & OS/2, and it offers a DOS Extender (and it's free!). With C it's a VERY short road from DOS to OS/2, especialy when no interface is involved (a matter of minutes). Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2142 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/15/94 3:56a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Its only restricted in the sense that it is a 'for your eyes only' if -> PC downlink. -> All is fixed. Thanks for the tip. --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2143 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 01/15/94 3:57a Subj: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Rots a ruck....! -> -> Regards.....Murray All fixed. Thanks!! Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2144 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/15/94 3:59a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again today! -> This is about 6 days in a row! -> I spoke to Boyd voice. He's working on it. Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2145 To: ALBERT GAYLORD Date: 01/15/94 4:01a Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messa Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> They got delivered here both times to the same point, 1:105/40.44 I -> haven't heard a peep out of him. I didn't say anything because I was -> how long it would take him to ask me about it. -> -> Albert OK. Someone get the bug spray out. I have a broom. Somone get a dust pan. Anyone out there have and empty 40 cyd roll off?? Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2146 To: BOB FRADY Date: 01/15/94 4:06a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Same here, I'm running Wildcat BBS software and am unable to delete t -> from my message base. I get a database error stating that there is an -> invalid key (index) to the database. I wind up checking my netmail ar -> for anything new that is valid and hasn't been sent off yet, moving i -> to another conference and deleting all files associated with my netma -> area and letting it build a new one them moving the valid messages ba -> so they can go out. It's really a pain. If I don't, the next time I -> collect all outgoing mail, it'll pick them up and send them on -> downstream, repeatedly. It doesn't catch that they've already been se -> either. -> -> I've learned to check my netmail area daily after the mail has been -> processed to keep from sending these back to the backbone. -> -> Bob Hmm.... Guess I'm luckey then!! I run WC too, but am also the Nhub for my net. I use SQUISH on that system and it seems to "pull" all the grunged messages out and toss them into that system. Thus, I am able to send "clean" bundles to the rest of the net. Wanna link in ?? :) Fred --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2147 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/15/94 1:37p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BR> 1:3615/50..... and you do kill your conventional hub, but -> BR> you still need to poll periodically for routed netmail.... -> -> -> Great... this clear up alot... So it looks like 1:3615/50 will be goi -> ole Friends & Family" soon. you won't be spending a great deal of time online with them, as the traffic going back to them will probably take just a minute or two to send.... and MCI turns out to be more expensive than my Sprint Select plan.... just received a $30.00 check from MCI (cash it and they change your phone to their service....) so I called and talked quite awhile with them... and then cashed the check... I have 6 lines into the house, so changed the one that I never make ld calls on (g).... -> will respond soon with additional info... mayeb a follow up call woul -> good idea) VERY good idea.... -> Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy" i -> get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips f -> really newcomers!? I already had a satellite system, and being somewhat technical in that field anyway, didn't have any problems at all... put a splitter in the line off the LNB (the $20.00 splitter they want to sell you cost me $4.50....), ran a piece of RG59 (no... I didn't use RG6) to the room with the computers, plugged it in to the data receiver, cable from the receiver to a serial port on the computer, installed the software and configured it (that took all of 3 minutes...), put the satellite on G3 (odd numbered transponder) and started receiving data..... it really is pretty simple, Don... cheers.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2148 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/15/94 1:37p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, -> -> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't -> -> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you -> -> know what that does to message pointers (g)..... -> -> Delete them with WCpro (if you have it) it works fine that way fo -> me. found that out the last day we got the grunged stuff, John.... thanks for the input.. cheers.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2149 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 01/15/94 2:15p Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so. -> ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when -> delivery.... :-) Hi, Fred.... long time no talk-to.... I think John Woodward is online, and a local call is always better than echomail (g).... cheers... Bill (K5IF).... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2150 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/15/94 2:19p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH> I am not familiar with Lans at all. I currently use RH> Fastwire to move files from one machine to another. RH> Will Lantastic connect an IBM PS/2 Model 50 to a clone? Sure will; the least expensive product is Lantastic-Z which works over serial or parallel ports and requires no extra hardware. Moving up from there you would purchase an ethernet starter kit which has all the s/w, h/w and cables for a two-workstation LAN. If you will be moving a considerable amount of files/messages back and forth you will want the ethernet version as it is much faster. Lantastic-Z will work on Micochannel, ISA or EISA as it just uses the serial or parallel ports. For ethernet, you can get Microchannel, ISA or EISA boards. -=- Craig. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2151 To: BILLY MORING Date: 01/15/94 10:28p Subj: Test export Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Billy! In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/14/94> Billy Moring wrote: BM> Boyd, BM> This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboard, p BM> send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working... BM> Thanks BM> Billy Moring It did not make it here. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * ÛÛ²²±±°° IN STEREO WHERE AVAILABLE °°±±²²ÛÛ --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 2152 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 3:23p Subj: DATES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Looking at my Index files, it seems that the DATE is correct but the DAY is wrong. This happened about the 1st of the year ! Any thoughts ? Regards Jerry --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2153 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/14/94 4:58p Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, it seems we have a little problem here. On 20 Dec, PTCCMAIN notified us, for the first time, that we had 3 days remaining on our subscription. I spoke with someone at Planet Connect the same day who basically could barely manage to identify himself over the phone and was therefore unable to provide us with the necessary information to renew our subscription, nor did he have authorization to renew our subscription according to this gentleman. The following day, we faxed a copy of our contract to your offices @ 3:07pm and received confirmation of it's receipt, (and yes, we do have the originals as well as the confirmation report). The following day, we called to confirm that it had been received and to get our subscription renewal code. Fortunately, we spoke with you and all was taken care of. So we thought. Sometime this AM, the satellite machine errored out and ptccmain would not re-load, kept saying that our subscription was expired (security error) and wouldn't do anything. There was absolutely *NO* warning that our subscription was nearing it's expiration and since we renewed our subscription with you on the 22nd of last month for a 1 yr subscription we had no reason to believe that this might occur. We spoke with Dan a few minutes ago who told us the following: - Our subscription had not been renewed because my Visa card expired 12/93 (They don't expire until the last day of the month, and at any rate, why were we not notified of this? It isn't as though the people at your office were unable to send netmail.) - Dan then asked if we had reset our clock. - Our contract specified a yearly subscription, yet according to Dan, the subscription code you issued us on the 21st was for 53 days, retroactive to 15 Nov. and *should* have expired on the 7th of this month. The code he initially gave us was for a 3 month subscription. When we queried him as to why we had to renew our yearly subscription every 3 months he re-checked our contract and issued us a subscription code for the period of 1 year. Now, my question to you as a representative of Planet Connect, is if this is the type of service we can expect from your company? If there is a problem processing someone's payment for a subscription, I don't think it's too much to ask that your subscriber, or potential subscriber as the case may be, be notified of it so that the necessary actions can be taken. This helps to contribute to keeping customer satisfaction high as well as the added benefit of ensuring that your company is paid for it's services. Also, it's maddening to call your company only to speak with individuals who apparently are not knowledgeable about your services and/or are not authorized to make a decision or take effective action at the time of the call. And last, but certainly not least, there is apparently no effective form of organization at Planet Connect as evidenced by the fact that on occasions when I have called & spoken with some of the others they were unable to find any information regarding our subscription. This does not speak well of your company, Boyd, nor project a very encouraging picture of your services. For the most part, we've been very happy with the services of Planet Connect and have endorsed it to it's fullest, but I am dismayed and extremely unhappy with the most recent state of affairs. Please tell me that this will improve in the near future, Boyd. Lie if you must. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2154 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/15/94 4:31p Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Kerry Sutley: JF> The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in JF> beta, and currently stands at a version number of ".96".. JF> It does handle the .BAG format (which is really .x/.d files JF> minux the .x file). If you're interested, file request JF> "GIGO" from 1:203/7707. Hi Jason. I've been using fred and haven't tried GIGO yet. You are the author? How does it compare to fred in utility? Does you package convert back and forth between usenet and fidonet packets and also handle net/email? How difficult is it to set up, configure, and administer? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2155 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/27/93 9:33p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. I believe the author says it best: "Arrogant hackers do it for free..." BinkleyTerm platforms: Atari DOS OS/2 Unix (Linux atleast) NT No one else comes close...8-) --- * Origin: From a wanna be laptop... (1:380/14.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2156 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 6:41a Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? They > showed up on the bird over this last weekend. > > 2-BBS > 2-PIC > 2-WINDOW They should be in your Filebone.na list dated 12-29-93, Dave. They are part of the 2nd Tier SDN areas that will apparently be coming over the satellite now. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2157 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 6:44a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Man you bink guys are die-hards aren't ya. > > Heyyyyyyyy, when you got the best, why switch. :-) Oh, are you running InterMail now also, Dave? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: Tried the rest, now run the best: InterMail 2.25 (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2158 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 12/30/93 6:49a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BinkleyTerm platforms: > > Atari > DOS > OS/2 > Unix (Linux atleast) > NT You forgot Amiga, Eddie. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: So, like, what's your point? (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2159 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/31/93 12:21p Subj: TVAgent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TVAgent you sent out, but the shutter door was crsuh off of the diskette > itself. I'm able to run the disk, but it has no protection. Could I get > you to send another copy? I can send the old disk back if you wish. Why not cannabalize an old 720k disk and use it to replace everything with? Would be a whole lot faster and simpler than sending the old one back and then waiting for a new one. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2160 To: DAVID WROBEL Date: 01/06/94 9:04p Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > instead of Echomail - They said you have to make them *ALL* passthru in > order for Tick to 'ADD' areas as passthru when it autocreates. Still, > this really isn't quite what we were looking for though. David, you might take a look at Allfix as it doesn't require this of you and has some other nice features that you might enjoy. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2161 To: JOHN MCCONNELL Date: 01/06/94 9:14p Subj: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET > ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO > ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE > SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help Have you tried looking for files called fidonet.na and fidonet.no that come over the satellite from time to time in the file echo area BACKBONE, John? Those are the actual lists of what is available currently via the north american backbone and a pretty good indicator of what echoes you can expect coming over the satellite connection. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2162 To: TIM BROWN Date: 01/06/94 9:22p Subj: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JJ> Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few > JJ>others.... > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! ^^^^^^^^^ A what? You should be roundly thumped for that one, Tim. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2163 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/06/94 9:34p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Please guys, I think you need to know something about us FidoNet > > net echo coordinators. We contracted with Planet Connect to get our > Now you need to know something about us. We have just as many systems > out there that are not in fido as we do fido-systems. Do not think that > we are only dealing with fido here. Do not think that every file around Boyd, just a thought here on the subject, but since this echo is a FidoNet echo and therefore all we see are the FidoNet side of the equation, why not gate this echo to the other nets that go over the satellite so that we can all get a more rounded bit of input from other subscribers of your service? This would serve several functions, not the least of which would be at least the perception of better 'support' via the various othernets without your having to possibly answer the same or similar mail in 10 different echoes on 7 different networks. Anyway, was just an idea I thought I'd share with you for what it's worth. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2164 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/06/94 9:38p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the sat. > BIG mistake on my part. Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't a problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying note or netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they can't be automagically processed and without viewing each and every one of them it's often difficult to figure out what the heck the file contains. Plus, some of the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2165 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 01/08/94 4:01p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BH> JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? BH> BH> I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish.... You might re-check your Tick or Allfix configuration, Brian, as I've received files via the ZyxelNet FDN as recently as a few days ago. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2166 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/15/94 11:35p Subj: AD file areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Have the AD file areas started coming in yet, so we great unwashed > can get some programmer names to contact? Yes, the Author Direct stuff has been flowing in over here at the rate of 2 or 3 new areas per day, Rick. I haven't had time to check out the files being sent, but so far they look nice. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2167 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/14/94 12:33a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> -> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE me -> -> -> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, be -> -> -> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why -> -> -> these? -> -> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, -> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't -> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you -> know what that does to message pointers (g)..... -> -> is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other -> Wildcat tossers experiencing this? The first quote was from me. I am using WildMail and one of the batches of grunged NetMail messages TRASHED my Netmail Database. WCRepair wouldn't fix. I had to delete the files for that conference and start fresh. Not a nice treat! But on the bright side, it has only done that once so far. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAY DESIO Number: 2168 To: KERRY SUTLEY Date: 01/15/94 9:12a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either convert > them to Fido msg format to be processed by my tosser (GECHO) or a > stand alone that will do both. Any Ideas out there??? Depending on what BBS package you are running, you have afew choices out there. For TBBS, there is PIMP (from Boardwatch Magazine) that will handle the bag files just fine (once unarchived). For WildCat!, there is WILDUUCP! (from Computer Resources) and WCUUCP! from Mustang. I haven't had the opportunity to work with either of these yet, but I believe they will also handle the mail bags. I'm not sure what else is out there, but I hope the above helps somewhat. --- * Origin: Network Communications (1:2604/222) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2169 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/14/94 10:13p Subj: File Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason, Will PSort hadle XXXXXXXX.DDx files (Mail Bags) or just PKT files? If it will automatically unzip mail bundles and then sort the .PKT's inside of the zip, it would be a great utility. * Gary * --- * RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2170 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 4:31p Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Michael Pierce wrote in a message to ALL: MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted MP> (except this one) have *ALL* had the signature file MP> attached! Well.....I didnt say anything to you about it but I am sure that I speak for most of the ones that did when I say 'We are sorry your ego is bruised but dont let the door hit you in the a** on the way out'.......sheesh....... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2171 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/14/94 11:33p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Jeff Olesen to Don Waybright it was said: JO> You import them using an AKA of 1:3615/51. Then you export JO> as yourself WITHOUT the AKA of 1:3615/51. See, Boyd makes JO> his packet by creating packets for a mythical sub-node of JO> his called 1:3615/51. Then he takes the resulting packets JO> and fires them out the link to all of us. When we call him, JO> if our systems put a seen-by of 1:3615/51 in it, his system JO> will refuse to toss it because it's already been seen by JO> 1:3615/51. This also means that any message that leaves your JO> system will come back to you in the next days packets, so JO> you must have your dupe-checking turned on. Ok... This makes sense. Leave the RHub feed open for routed netmail and send my packets to Boyd... JO> That's one way. I use a separate SX-40 to capture it all JO> locally and it spits the files across Lantastic when each JO> run is finished. It runs 24 hours a day. I found that it JO> couldn't work over Lantastic directly, all captures had to JO> be to a local drive. I am beginning to think that a second machine (386DX-40) might do me well here. For I could put in a four port serial cards with 16550's but the systems downtime/toss time for that amount of mail would be a major drawback... Then when funds permit do what I have been wanting to do for a long time: Lantastic! Just home much mail is THE BACKBONE for FidoNet? I am trying to figure out the size of drive I will need to handle this. Currently I have a spare 103MB sitting around and I am wondering if that would be enought to handle the incoming mail and files. JO> One thing to keep in mind, if you go for a KU band setup, JO> you may want to get the 4' dish instead of the 3' one to JO> avoid rain fade and snow buildup problems. The 4' gives you JO> 12 square feet instead of 6 sqaure feet so it takes a lot JO> more to degrade the signal to the point where it is JO> unusable. Don't forget, your roof is generally un-accessible JO> (safely) while it is snowing (assuming you even get snow in JO> Virginia) and for a few days afterwards. Not much snow here but rain/ice build up could be a problem. And I do want to avoid "learning the hardway".... Sounds like the 4' might just be better (Jeez I have a lot to learn about this!). Thanks again for the reply and the time it took. I have a few more questions that I will post tonight/tomorrow. Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2172 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/14/94 11:53p Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Jeff Olesen to Don Waybright it was said: JO> One thing to keep in mind, if you go for a KU band setup, JO> you may want to get the 4' dish instead of the 3' one to JO> avoid rain fade and snow buildup problems. The 4' gives you JO> 12 square feet instead of 6 sqaure feet so it takes a lot JO> more to degrade the signal to the point where it is JO> unusable. Don't forget, your roof is generally un-accessible JO> (safely) while it is snowing (assuming you even get snow in JO> Virginia) and for a few days afterwards. I did not notice the 4' Dish package in the file other than the one listed for Candadian systems... Am I missing something? Or do i need to FReq a newer file? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2173 To: ALL Date: 01/14/94 11:54p Subj: PC & File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (From the Satelite.Zip file) ** Electronic satellite tv-guide also Fido File Areas ** These services are made availible to the receiving station for posting ONLY on the receiving station. These services must not be passed on to other systems. Services require registration and a yearly subscription fee by the receiving system's online users. I guess what I am seeing is correct. Just wanted to make sure though. Does this mean that I cannot send the SDS stuff out to my local FidoNet? If true I would simply, and not meaning to start a feud, like to ask why is this so? I could be missing a very missing part of the picture but the SDS areas are sponsored through FidoNet right? Just curious. Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2174 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/15/94 4:57p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_ that is -> written to the screen to a file.... HOWEVER when running Arj -> with the "S" parameter to make it redirect the File_id.diz to Terry I forwarded this to Robert Jung, if he responds I'll send it to you. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2175 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 01/15/94 5:00p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I sent Derek K. (WildMail) a message on this this morning. I don't -> think WM is looking at your main address when the AKA is kicked in. I would be interested in hearing what you find out. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2176 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 01/15/94 5:04p Subj: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> sent Boyd Goodin a NetMail message with a few questions and I have se -> people a FAX with the same questions. --- How long to you think it w -> until I hear from them? -> Well they are good on the phone, but I know those folks are busy. Frankly I would recommend a phone call. -> How did the overall setup go with your system? Pretty well. I still have a problem if I bring that sat stuff into a networked drive, but apparently it isn't common (I seem to be the only one reporting it). You'll have a ball. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2177 To: THOMAS KINNEN Date: 01/14/94 8:07p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> except to pass human callers to it). The other Wilcat sysop in the a -> uses GoMail and carries the entire BackBone and it takes him 3-7 hour -> toss, where Gecho takes less then and hour to toss and packet all th -> out bound mail. Hmmm, I use WildMail here and I have all the files tossed to the BBS and mail tossed for downlinks in 1 hour. I then take 1 more hour to pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossing speed is about 700msg/min for Fido. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2178 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/14/94 8:12p Subj: Trash netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Looks like *I* was the source for the dupe loop of garbage netmail -> -> You should be flogged with a wet noddle for at least 15 mins! :) Eww baby! Make me feel like the man I really am! But the question is, do we get to tie him up first {;-'] Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 2179 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/15/94 2:01p Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever posted (except MP> this one) have *ALL* had the signature file attached! BYE!!!!....I'm sure that I speak for all of us in here, when I say that we will miss you terribly!....NOT!!!!! MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2180 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/16/94 1:04p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect. Will we need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50? === * OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink ! --- InterEcho 1.00/b06 * Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2181 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/16/94 1:15p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to Thomas Kinnen <01/14/94> Tim Lajoie wrote: TL> pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossing TL> speed is about 700msg/min for Fido. Part of it is that the BBS is on 4Mbs Token ring. When tossing from a Eathernet workstation the speed more then doubles. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Help! I'm a prisoner in a tagline factory! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2182 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/16/94 1:17p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Wallace! In a message to Jason Fesler <01/15/94> Wallace Sheldon wrote: WS> mail directory to accomplish this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2 WS> to 5 minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional command line WS> find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location? BTW, your program does work Hmm, Thought I saw that option in the Docs. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2183 To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 1:25p Subj: Fred Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have seen several people mention FRED, how is the command line stated? I am using: Fred-uf -c config.fil news0040.bag 40.pkt This works fine, for 1 bag, but I need an automated setup for "all" bags, any ideas.?? === * OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink ! --- InterEcho 1.00/b06 * Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2184 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/16/94 3:47p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Saturday January 15 1994 22:00, STEVE HUSK wrote to All: SH> Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just wanted SH> to see how things are working. Steve Husk -+- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999) + SH> Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576) Hello STEVE! You made it to Central Texas.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Planet-Connetion mean never having to say "Where's my Mail (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2185 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 01/16/94 11:00p Subj: Re: DATES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, Looking at my Index files, it seems that the DATE is correct but > the DAY is wrong. This happened about the 1st of the year ! > Any thoughts ? Dont know what you are talking about. If it is for PCUTILS then I think John could answer that better than I. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2186 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:29p Subj: Re: Support Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We spoke with Dan a few minutes ago who told us the > following: > - Our subscription had not been renewed because my Visa card expired > 12/93 > (They don't expire until the last day of the month, and at any rate, > why > were we not notified of this? It isn't as though the people at your > office were unable to send netmail.) First off who is Dan? > - Dan then asked if we had reset our clock. This could happen. If you see a 6144 error then it is a dat time violation. If the clock goes back in time wit will come up with this. > - Our contract specified a yearly subscription, yet according to Dan, > the > subscription code you issued us on the 21st was for 53 days, > retroactive Which I told your hubby. For the first time renewal it is retroactive from the date you specified in the contract where it asdks what date you started using Planet Connect. This has always been our policy.  > to 15 Nov. and *should* have expired on the 7th of this month. The > code > he initially gave us was for a 3 month subscription. When we queried > him as to why we had to renew our yearly subscription every 3 months > he > re-checked our contract and issued us a subscription code for the > period > of 1 year. This should not of happened. Our policy is that we ONLY reset the lock for 90 days even if you have payed a full year in advanced. > Now, my question to you as a representative of Planet Connect, is if > this > is the type of service we can expect from your company? Depends. If you read the contract it stated that it your subscription would start on the day you put in for starting to use Planet Connect. I also explained to your hubby why we have the 90 days limit. If you got reset for the full year what are you complaining about? > If there is a problem processing someone's payment for a > subscription, I > don't think it's too much to ask that your subscriber, or potential > subscriber as the case may be, be notified of it so that the necessary > actions can be taken. This helps to contribute to keeping customer > satisfaction high as well as the added benefit of ensuring that your > company is paid for it's services. Thats why the 90 day limit. If you did not pay then we just dont reset you till you did.  > Also, it's maddening to call your company only to speak with > individuals > who apparently are not knowledgeable about your services and/or are not > authorized to make a decision or take effective action at the time of the > call. Well takes time to train people. Did you learn everything about how our program works and what is involved in getting data over the sat overnight? > And last, but certainly not least, there is apparently no effective > form > of organization at Planet Connect as evidenced by the fact that on Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are as organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I had no idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it all out. > occasions when I have called & spoken with some of the others they were > unable to find any information regarding our subscription. This does not > speak well of your company, Boyd, nor project a very encouraging picture > of your services. Yep and IBM is running smoothly too. This is not my company. I work for P.S.I. All I have is a fancy title but I worked for that title. You got lucky. If I would have been there when Jim reset your lock there would have been no way that he would have did it for a year. Policy is policy and come hell or high water I will stay with my decisions. > For the most part, we've been very happy with the services of Planet > Connect and have endorsed it to it's fullest, but I am dismayed and > extremely unhappy with the most recent state of affairs. Please tell me > that this will improve in the near future, Boyd. Lie if you must. I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast enough for you. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2187 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:31p Subj: Re: What the HELL@!!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, just a thought here on the subject, but since this echo is a > FidoNet > echo and therefore all we see are the FidoNet side of the equation, why > not gate this echo to the other nets that go over the satellite so that No can do. We do not process any of the other networks. Unless each network that is sending to us has a dish and does the gating, it will never happen on our end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2188 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 11:46p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't > a > problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying note > or netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they > can't be automagically processed and without viewing each and every one > of them it's often difficult to figure out what the heck the file > contains. Plus, some of the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft! Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2189 To: RUDY BORJON Date: 01/16/94 11:49p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect. > Will we need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50? Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one going over today called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the days go by. The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to check and see what kind of administative nightmare this will be. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2190 To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 01/16/94 11:52p Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > hey Boyd! what's up? Really want me to answer that one? > I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that works > reliably in DV ;-) Well right now something else has got or attention. The software does not work under OS2 because of the lock. OS2 will not let the lock do its thing and we cant do anything about that until the company that supplies them to us has a fix. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 2191 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/16/94 9:33a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes: JF> The usenet/fidonet gateway software I wrote is still in beta, and JF> currently stands at a version number of ".96".. It does handle JF> the .BAG format (which is really .x/.d files minux the .x file). JF> If you're interested, file request "GIGO" from 1:203/7707. Jason, I had no luck trying to get GIGO to read the .BAG files. The docs say nothing about it (did I miss something?)...it did not recognixe the .BAG files. What needs to be done to get it to work with the .BAGs? --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2192 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 01/12/94 9:09p Subj: Re: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Sa 08-Jan-94 02:31, Eddie Rowe wrote: ER> One of the hurdles Planet Connects has faced is File ER> Distribution Network Heads who think they ER> can regulate how we pass files... ER> ER> This is stupidity in action... :-) What types of regulations have people tried to put on you? --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 2193 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/16/94 3:20a Subj: Crc Errors Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>Hello Foxy! JL>Me too. It sounds promising as a operating system though. I've been quite happy with the performance of DrDos 6. Can't say I missed not having the problems some had with M$dos' DoubleSpacer (or whatever 'twas miss-called). --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2194 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/16/94 5:13a Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Michael! Friday January 14 1994 11:40, Michael Pierce wrote to ALL: MP> correctly! I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks MP> you jerks!) this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the MP> message to respond! Gee, we'll miss you. Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2195 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/16/94 11:00a Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> George Vandervort wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> -> GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a -> GV> Magic name for File Request.. -> -> Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep b -> I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have se -> it will come by asking for almost anything. ok.... now let me get this straight... I do ALT-F and type in 'ANYTHING' and I can get the file???? Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2196 To: JAY DESIO Date: 01/16/94 11:04a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> For TBBS, there is PIMP (from Boardwatch Magazine) that will handle t -> files just fine (once unarchived). -> -> For WildCat!, there is WILDUUCP! (from Computer Resources) and WCUUCP -> Mustang. I haven't had the opportunity to work with either of these y -> believe they will also handle the mail bags. -> -> I'm not sure what else is out there, but I hope the above helps somew using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2197 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 01/16/94 11:10a Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hmmm, I use WildMail here and I have all the files tossed to the -> and mail tossed for downlinks in 1 hour. I then take 1 more hour to -> pretoss what I want to my BBS. Seems pretty quick on this end. Tossin -> speed is about 700msg/min for Fido. Tim, how about describing the equipment and posting AUTOEXEC and CONFIG.SYS files for us so we can see how you do this..... it takes me 20 minutes to do the tossing using GECHO, then I unpack my pkt into \WM\PRETOSS and run WM PRETOSS to get mine into Wildcat... whether by design or by accident, Wildmail doesn't give a damn WHAT address is used when doing WM PRETOSS, so it works well for me.... GECHO receives from 3615/50 and tosses to 3801/1 (me) and Wildmail merrily tosses the pkt from 3801/1 to 3801/1.... doing everything with Wildmail alone took me almost 3 hours to do on some days..... thanks.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2198 To: ALL Date: 01/15/94 11:19p Subj: Msgtoss/areafix Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone using Msgtoss, Areafix and RBBS or CDor? I have most things working well, but wanted to set up a new areas create using areafix. That would let me take all unfed areas out of my areas.bbs, thus speeding tossing and reducing my msgtoss.eid. --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2199 To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 10:40a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent this past week have received no replies. Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can tell via date whether the system's working here. Thanks. -=<-Katherine->=- --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2200 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/16/94 10:24p Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! In a message to Joe Lyda <01/14/94> Terry Blount wrote: TB> JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: TB> JL> Well try this and it will work to the file but no echo to TB> JL> screen TB> JL> arj l *.sdn *.diz >> outfile TB> That command does not show the contents of the *.diz file so the descript TB> is not witten to the outfile... only the file name. TB> Try this on a .zip file and then look at the outfile to see what is neede TB> when I use Arj. TB> pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile Ya I see what you are dealing with, none of the switches I see will do that, however, I am looking at it. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2201 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/17/94 1:18a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty! 08 Jan 94 16:01, Patty Pickett wrote to Brian Hess: BH> JM>> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? BH>> BH>> I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish.... PP> You might re-check your Tick or Allfix configuration, Brian, PP> as I've received files via the ZyxelNet FDN as recently as a few PP> days ago. thanks this is old message... after making several messages about it appeared suddenly... like i though it would... if you know what i mean... On another note I use to live in Hallsville, TX (near Longview) and been to La several times... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID WROBEL Number: 2202 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/16/94 10:16p Subj: Re: Areas.bbs & Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > instead of Echomail - They said you have to make them *ALL* > passthru in > > order for Tick to 'ADD' areas as passthru when it autocreates. > Still, > > this really isn't quite what we were looking for though. > > David, you might take a look at Allfix as it doesn't require this > of you > and has some other nice features that you might enjoy. Sounds good... I've heard it's good too... [ Dave ] --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The High Frontier RBBS / Holmdel, N.J. USA (1:107/605.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2203 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/16/94 10:07a Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No > Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I > can't see how you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a > second isn't much different that once every few minutes. My point was that if a drive will take the thrashing that happens during a defrag or especially during heavy mail processing, the activity from writing all those blocks, one at a time, amounts to nothing. If the drive would last 4 years on the satellite reception duty, writing 3 times/second, it'd probably go another month or 2 if you didn't write *anything*. I'm no more guru than you are, but I'd bet that this would be the case. > I find that seeing the hd light only blinking when the entire file > is written makes me feel a lot better.. If it makes you feel better, go for it. --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2204 To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 1:52a Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No (Flashbacks of messages between Michael Pierce and to ALL) MP> I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator MP> (thanks you jerks!) this will be my last post in this echo MP> so don't waist the message to respond! [Finally...] Jason Fesler --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2205 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 4:11p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Roper wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> -> GV> you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a -> GV> Magic name for File Request.. -> -> Yes... there is a bug in my docs! I must have been falling asleep b -> I finished writing the program and started with the docs. I have se -> it will come by asking for almost anything. BR> ok.... now let me get this straight... BR> I do ALT-F and type in 'ANYTHING' and I can get the file???? No... that was a joke. If you request Diz2bbs or Diz2bbs.zip it should come either way. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2206 To: PC RECEIVING SYSOPS Date: 01/16/94 5:33p Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The following is a list of systems that are sending areas that are not part of the echo-bone structure. Please remove 1:3615/50 from distribution. This just takes up procesing time con our end and cost each system money to send it to the bit bucket! Address 103/0 area 'REG10_SYSOP' Address 106/737 area '4SALE' Address 372/39 area 'TFDN' Address 3601/14 area 'DB_SOFT' Address 372/39 area 'TFDN' Address 11/600 area 'AIRMED' Address 363/1570 area 'FLA_NET' Address 103/0 area 'REG10_SYSOP' Address 213/213 area 'MAC_ADS' Address 105/50 area 'HIGH_ED' Address 106/737 area '4SALE' Address 291/11 area 'MEMORY_LANE' Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET' Address 323/100 area 'NESYSOP' Address 3612/42 area 'SALE' Address 3612/42 area 'WF_DEBATE' Address 3612/42 area 'ADULT' Address 3612/42 area 'FM-GENEALOGIE' Address 3612/42 area 'R18ELECT' Address 3612/42 area 'SYSOP18' Address 3639/19 area 'CMX4SALE' Address 398/2 area 'R19SYSOP' Address 229/510 area 'NULL' Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP' Address 371/3901 area 'DB_TECH' Address 3619/1 area 'FLMHUB' Address 3615/52 area 'LOST' Address 110/69 area 'SBE' Address 3634/7 area 'NEC18' Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP' Address 3601/14 area 'DB_SOFT' Address 3634/7 area 'NEC18' Address 3634/7 area 'NCFILE' Address 382/92 area 'R19SYSOP' Address 233/15 area 'CONTROL' Address 2440/5 area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 363/1570 area 'FLA_NET' Address 285/2 area 'IVGATE' Address 274/901 area 'NETMAIL' Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET' Address 250/636 area 'AMIGA_COMMS' Address 229/15 area 'AUG-GEN' Address 229/15 area 'SOC_ROOTS' Address 229/15 area 'TIDEWATER_GENE' Address 216/0 area 'LOCAL_NET' Address 285/2 area 'IVGATE' Address 110/69 area 'DB_TECH' Address 348/501 area 'USERGRPS' Address 347/22 area '4SALE' Address 3619/1 area 'FLMHUB' Address 110/69 area 'MVBB_LST' Address 289/13 area 'ADULTCON' Address 289/13 area 'UTILNET' Address 371/3901 area 'DB_TECH' I am getting anywhere from 1 to 2 megs of badmessages per day from these conferences. If it is not in the FIDONET.NA .NO I dont want it. Eventually I will get fed up with this stuff and stop allowing systems to drop off mail until they have this fixed. This will be my last resort but please take the time to change it or face being locked out until y6ou have it fixed. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2207 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/16/94 5:19a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <15 Jan 94 22:00:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes: SH>Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just SH>wanted to see how things are working. Hello, Steve. I'm a newcomer here too -- maybe we can learn together. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2208 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/17/94 3:29a Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> comming over planet connect and all we want is a list of WHAT FIDONET >> ECHOS ARE AND ARE NOT CARRIED VIA PLANET CONNECT? IS THAT TO MUCH TO >> ASK???? AND IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS SUCH A LIST PLEASE >> SEND US A COPY. thanks to anyone who can help > Have you tried looking for files called fidonet.na and fidonet.no that >come over the satellite from time to time in the file echo area BACKBONE, >John? Those are the actual lists of what is available currently via the >north american backbone and a pretty good indicator of what echoes you can >expect coming over the satellite connection. > --)@ Patty @(-- Patty, I have to agree, the FIDONET.NA and .NO lists are a "pretty good indicator".... but, I have seen a few that aren't in either list. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2209 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/16/94 4:21a Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messa Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> JL> Well it's the 12th now and I got another 150 - 200 again toda -> JL> This is about 6 days in a row! -> JL> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069 -> JL> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) -> -> Hello John! -> -> knock on wood.. :-) -> So far all Wed 12th and Thur. 13 mail bundles have process ok on my s -> without any problem.. and Wed was a BIG load of mail... -> -> I still don't really know what cause the corruption of my Message bas -> 10th and 11th, except that PCUTILS allowed several Bad Bundles of Mai -> Errors to be moved to my TOSS Directory... Me either, it is definatly echo mail going to my Netmail. I got a ton of them the 14th and 15th too! :( It's been colder than you-know-what here in Michigan. It's been taking 2 to 3 passes before I get all the mail and files. The snow doesn't seem to effect it, but the COLD seems to. I guess this could be part of it. Someone did say that they thought it was thier system causing it, but maybe not. John.. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2210 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 01/16/94 9:24p Subj: File Announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gary Hedberg babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: GH> Jason, GH> Will PSort hadle XXXXXXXX.DDx files (Mail Bags) or just PKT GH> files? If it will automatically unzip mail bundles and then GH> sort the .PKT's inside of the zip, it would be a great GH> utility. Just .PKT files. Anything else is up to you to provide. I use GUS here. You can also simply run your archiver in the batch file first... Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2211 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/16/94 9:21p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wallace Sheldon babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: WS> this. Could you be persuaded to spend the 2 1/2 to 5 WS> minutes needed to allow the program to read an optional WS> command line and find the AREAS.BBS in it's normal location? Not at this time. I have other programming commmitments. It can't take that long for you to copy an areas.bbs... WS> BTW, your program does work in a DOS box in OS/2, but it WS> doesn't trigger the DOS box like a normal DOS program. You Try "dos4gw.exe gateway.exe" instead; don't know how it will react. Or, wait until Jan 20 1994, and re-request PSORT.ZIP from me. Someone else is porting it to OS/2. WS> My impression is that you are using Watcom to program with. WS> Doesn't Watcom do OS/2?? If you need an OS/2 compiler, have It does, but I don't have the hardware, or references, or the time. Someone else is doing the port for me. WS> you looked at the GNU EMX C/C++ compiler? You can turn out WS> Family programs that run in both DOS & OS/2, and it offers a WS> DOS Extender (and it's free!). With C it's a VERY short Free, but annoying. And they have some strict rules on distribution of anything made with it. Yes, I've already looked into it. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2212 To: ALL Date: 01/16/94 12:09p Subj: lannet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No anybody seen any traffic out of lannet? I haven't seen a thing flow down. jerry --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS ## West Monroe, LA ## 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2213 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/17/94 7:55p Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron > since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent > this past week have received no replies. Well I get it here but I dont count. If I am the only one that is replying to this then Jeff has a problem which would be that his system is adding 3615/51 to the seenbys. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2214 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/17/94 8:49p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sunday January 16 1994 10:40, Katherine Schroeder wrote to All: KS> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron KS> since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent KS> this past week have received no replies. KS> KS> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can KS> tell via date whether the system's working here. Thanks. KS> -=<-Katherine->=- -+- GEcho 1.00 + Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * KS> Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) Hello Katherine! got you here in Central Texas.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: NET382 NEC Home of the 14.4k Gerbil-SAT... (FidoNet 1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 2215 To: RUDY BORJON Date: 01/17/94 3:23p Subj: Fred Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Rudy Borjon scripted in a message to All: RB> Fred-uf -c config.fil news0040.bag 40.pkt That'll work, but ... RB> This works fine, for 1 bag, but I need an automated setup RB> for "all" bags, any ideas.?? Yup, I wrote such a critter. f'req UF here, about 13K. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON JOHNSTON Number: 2216 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/17/94 4:15p Subj: Re: help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> I have to agree, the FIDONET.NA and .NO lists are a DP> "pretty DP> good indicator".... but, I have seen a few that DP> aren't in either so far as what John Souvestre has told me direct is, he's feeding .na, .no and the echos listed in filebone.na as backbone echos. If you've seen anything else I'd have a feeling that may be what Boyde is trying to get culled out. Ron --- * Origin: The County Line BBS Node2 414-476-8469 (1:154/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 2217 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/16/94 8:43a Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John: Monday January 10 1994 22:28, John Lyon wrote to Boyd Goodin: ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messages ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, because ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I got ->> these? JL> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. SInce this seems to happen every so often, I recommend installing MsgTrack. This will kill routed echomail, or optionally move it to your bad message area. It does other things as well... You can FREQ it from me as MT331.ARJ Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2218 To: BILLY MORING Date: 01/16/94 6:45a Subj: Test export Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, -> -> This is a test of my export setup... If this makes it back to Skyboar -> send a reply to me, so I will know my export is working... It made it to sunny and warm (NOT - its currently -37 without windchill figured in) Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2219 To: MICHAEL PIERCE Date: 01/16/94 6:46a Subj: FLAMES! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I have since completely scrapped the sig file generator (thanks you j -> this will be my last post in this echo so don't waist the message to What a shame, we are truely going to miss his stimulating messages. NOT! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2220 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 01/16/94 3:11p Subj: Re: Hooray! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JC> That looks like a very good solution to my problem. I am running a JC> 286for the planet, and it writes to the 486 hardrive. I only have one JC> megof ram, but do have two simm slots. How big of a cache_size are JC> yousetting? Could I get away with this with 2 more meg? Also, I read I use a 2 meg cache here, just because I have it available. I suppose you could use any size you want to. With a 1 meg cache and a delay time of 60 it would hit the planet connect hd every 1 minute or when file is completed, with a delay of 600 it would hit every 10 minutes or when the file is completed, so on.. I use it here with excellent results. The only problem I have run into, when I do any editing or other work on the Planet Connect machine I have to make sure that the cache is "flushed" before changes can take effect.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2221 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/16/94 3:21p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ> I agree with the original response. If you're not multi-tasking, JJ> thenthe drive isn't going to be seeking all over the place, and JJ> writing onceper block doesn't involve any more head movement than if JJ> you cached. JJ> The current drawn by the head isn't really significant, I have never JJ> heard of a head burning out! In any case it's still 'six of one', JJ> youare writiing the same number of sectors overall, whether it's 1-2 JJ> at atime, or all at once. JJ> -jim- Well I suppose thats one way of looking at things, but let me ask you this. Have you ever looked at the drive (with speed disk) after a couple of days use? Looks like a piece of swiss cheese, now when a file is written to the hd it will write the first availble area that is not allocated for another file right? The first sector(s) might be close to the front of the disk, the last sector(s) might be towards the middle or the end. If a file is 100K then (my math might not be correct) if you write it in pieces (2-3 times a second) and it takes apx. 50 seconds to write that one file, thats 100-150 times AT DIFFERENT sectors that the drive is being written to. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2222 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/17/94 12:46p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->-> I sent Derek K. (WildMail) a message on this this morning. I don't ->-> think WM is looking at your main address when the AKA is kicked in. ->I would be interested in hearing what you find out. Well, as of right now, I've heard nothing. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2223 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 01/17/94 1:42p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BR>-> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th n -> -> BR>it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, -> BR>delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't -> BR>fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you -> BR>know what that does to message pointers (g)..... -> BR> -> BR>is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other -> BR>Wildcat tossers experiencing this? -> -> We are getting them down here to, but PCBoard handles them just fine -> without message base corruption. does that translate to "my software is better than yours" (g)...... -> I used to get lot's of message base corruptions while running WILDCAT -> 3.90/Wildmail and quickly changed from the Wildcat BBS software to I have very occassionaly had a conference corrupted but never anything that WCREPAIR wouldn't fix... I remember the days of using RA for a message base (pre WC v3.xx days) and how often I would lose the WHOLE DARN THING!!!... with the individual conference files, at least all I lost was the one conference... but... have since found that WCPRO will delete the messages nicely, and not corrupt the file..... -> PCBoard 15.0. Never had any message corruptions anymore after that!! -> Sorry to hear you're having problems with your message bases. just part of the learning experience.... after all, if I wanted to live in an environment where nothing ever went wrong, I certainly wouldn't have a computer around the house (g)... cheers... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2224 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 5:57a Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <15 Jan 94 13:37:12>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes: BR>-> Sounds like I won't. If I could trouble you could I ask how "Easy" BR>-> get the system up and running once the equipment arrived? Any tips BR>-> really newcomers!? BR> BR>I already had a satellite system, and being somewhat technical in BR>that field anyway, didn't have any problems at all... put a BR>splitter in the line off the LNB (the $20.00 splitter they want BR>to sell you cost me $4.50....), ran a piece of RG59 (no... I BR>didn't use RG6) to the room with the computers, plugged it in Sounds pretty simple, Bill. I'm a newcomer also and I probably won't be getting my equipment for another week or two. I wonder if you could give a brief outline of how a typical download works with approximate processing times? Assuming that you begin receiving a Fido backbone transmission at 6:30 a.m., how long until the transmission finishes and then what happens when you start processing -- just a complete rank 'beginner' here. And I assume the transmissions run 24 hours -- can you just jump in and start copying, or do you have to wait until a specific time before you can get any data? Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2225 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/17/94 6:03a Subj: New Subscriber Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <15 Jan 94 14:15:55>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes: BR>-> I've noticed a lack of messages on this echo in the past week or so. BR>-> ordered the KU kit and I hope you guys are still around to help when BR>-> delivery.... :-) BR> BR>Hi, Fred.... long time no talk-to.... BR> BR>I think John Woodward is online, and a local call is always BR>better than echomail (g).... Thanks for the response, Bill. I spoke with John a couple of weeks ago -- that's what got me interested in Planet Connect in the first place! Anyway, I was just elected File Coordinator so I figured this was a required project. hehehehe... Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 2226 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 8:00p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one going BG>over today called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones we have goin BG>over now. It will start toi increase even more as the days go by. The PC Hi Boyd, I just looked at the PCUSENET.TXT list and it includes the sex conferences and some binaries... so am I to assume that these will not be filtered out in the future? --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2227 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/17/94 2:15p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well Jim, I'm not a Hard Drive Guru or anything like that, but I > can't see how you would say writing to a hard drive APX. 3 times a > second isn't much different that once every few minutes. JD> My point was that if a drive will take the thrashing that happens JD> during a defrag or especially during heavy mail processing, the JD> activity from writing all those blocks, one at a time, amounts to JD> nothing. If the drive would last 4 years on the satellite reception JD> duty, writing 3 times/second, it'd probably go another month or 2 if JD> you didn'twrite *anything*. I'm no more guru than you are, but I'd JD> bet that this would be the case. I am very interested in what a person that repairs hard drives would have to say about this. I will try to find out more and let you know.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2228 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 7:10p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Patty Pickett <01/16/94> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Yeah, I wanted to thump you myself, Boyd. Lack of drive space wasn't BG> > a BG> > problem here but files that arrive without a tic file, accompanying not BG> > or netmail of some type tend to be ignored or 'forgotten' since they BG> > can't be automagically processed and without viewing each and every one BG> > of them it's often difficult to figure out what the heck the file BG> > contains. Plus, some of the files were dated pre-1991. Ack! Phffffft! BG> BG> BG> Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did BG> BG> ...Boyd And am wondering when you gona do it again, seems to draw the best side out of everyone. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * WcEDIT - No Cholesterol! No Saturated fats! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JD BROWN Number: 2229 To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 01/17/94 11:08p Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CIS: 72027,2432 or IBM LINK @ DEV0580 JB> hey Boyd! what's up? JB> JB> I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that JB> works reliably in DV ;-) Tell them to send me the source code and an NDA and I will port it in 3 days or less. ---GALACTICA! SOUTHEASTERN ECHOSTAR! FEEDING ALL WHO ASK! ___ X KWQ/2 1.2a X Clinton - From a chicken in every pot, to a chicken who smoked po --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Exchange (Home of EGGNET'S EC1, POLICY) (1:3622/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY BORJON Number: 2230 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/17/94 11:52p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> I read that you be be having the full usenet groups on Planet Connect. BG>> Will we need special software to rec and toss back to 1:3615/50? BG>by. The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. At BG>Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to check I have them coming in to the "newsgrp", did you change "aconfig.sky" on me? I recently recieved a new "aconfig" which listed the new "french net" and the HealthNet, but did not see a change to USENET ? Holonet could prob fix you up with a return uplink, if users do it individually (like me) it cost $12.50 a month, but if you offer them to upload all Planet Connect customers it prob will be a large sum of bills.. === * OLX 2.1 TD * - THE BORDER -Satellite G4 Downlink ! --- InterEcho 1.00/b06 * Origin: TheBorder-Skylink'ed(RudyBorjon)EPX 915-593-4085 (1:381/122) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2231 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 01/12/94 11:10a Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Burton wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JB> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got JB> your ABOUT file in return... I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are getting it and some don't? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2232 To: JOE LYDA Date: 01/12/94 11:11a Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOE LYDA wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: TB> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the TB> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be TB> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me TB> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use TB> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the TB> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work. JL> Try the append to a file function ">>" works without JL> overwritting the previous line. That doesn't work either. Only the text in the File_id.diz is saved to the file. The file name that it came from (which is written to the screen) is not saved in the output file. Try this: arj s -y * *.diz >> outfile Even thought the file name is echoed to the screen it won't appear in the "outfile" with the .diz text. Thanks for you interest in solving this problem. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2233 To: ALL Date: 01/08/94 1:06p Subj: File announcement Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I don't normally make file announcements in national echos, but for this, I'll make an exception, as it is something that may be of good use for you.. The program is free, I hope it helps out everyone. If there is a P_C file echo at all, whoever is in charge of it is more than welcome to hatch it out in it. Please note the requirements before file requesting it! File names: PSORT.ZIP (70k) .PKT Packet sorter + filter (free,386 reqd) DOS4GW.ZIP (142k) Dos extender for Watcom applications Below is an abbreviated form of the documentation.. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PSRT - Packet filter & sorter - Reads and combines .PKT files into one large .PKT file (multiple .PKTS if from multiple sources; the PKT headers themselves are preserved for security) - Sorts by area, subject, date, and time, up to the limits of memory (ie, the more memory you have, the more that can be contiguously sorted) - If AREAS.BBS found (standard AREAS.BBS format), it will be read, and _only_ the areas found in AREAS.BBS will be kept. Useful if you get the entire backbone but only need a portion of it, ie satellite feeds. Requirements: - Requires 386sx or greater - Requires 1 meg of extended/ems/dpmi/vcpi/whatever memory (more memory provides better sorting, ideally, 3-3.5 megs :-) That memory must be available to psrt to operate. - Requires DOS4GW.EXE, a special dos extender for Watcom C++ applications "What advantage will running this do for me?" PSRT has more than one purpose.. It's original design was to be a speed-up for my mail processor. Squish, Jam, and *.MSG users will notice the biggest speed increase, as it won't have to open and close each message base nearly as often. On my particular setup, PSRT doubles my speed with Squish, and even makes Gecho noticable faster than normal. For another person in our area, running EzyComm, his tossing speed when from 1/sec to 9/sec.. Secondly; PSRT sorts by subject and time/date. This means that all of the messages for a given subject will be grouped together, which facilitates reading. When I get interested in one topic, I hate to have to jump all over the message base to follow it. Also, I see the original messages, BEFORE the replies, because of the time/date sort. Really handy with the lag time of fidonet technology. Last, is a feature I myself will never use, but was a 15 minute fix to add in. Satellite options such as "PLANET_CONNECT" give you the entire backbone, even if you only want 50-100 of the areas. Not too many mail tossers handle this very gracefully. PSRT will read your AREAS.BBS (if it's in the current directory), and ONLY output the messages that are in the areas you want, and throws the rest of them away. This allows you to stop getting hundreds or thousands of messages in your bad mail directory. "(Hubs) What advantage will running this do for my feeds?" If you sort YOUR inbound files out, then, for the most part, the output of your mail processor will also be sorted, making things work faster for your downlinks. They would be able appreciate the same speedup that you do. They will also be amused at 4:00am seeing it toss alphabeticly. :-) "When are you going to make an OS/2 version?" Go away. Use your DOS box. :-) Seriously, though, I do not plan on doing OS/2 until I have the resouces (that's RAM, I've only got 4 megs on my machine, grr). I also need to get the CD-ROM and IBM's technical reference, which adds up to another couple hundred bucks. I have no clue as to what libaries I would have to purchase, either. Luckily, the compiler itself, supports OS/2 - once I have the technical and referece requirements met. I will make OS/2 versions out of almost all of my utilities, including these weeny onces like PSRT, once I have the ability. If you have a spare CD-ROM, and a spare copy of the cd's needed, and need to put them in a safe home, email me ;-) Jason Fesler, 1:203/7707 jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2234 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/11/94 9:52p Subj: Re: Problem Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Sure. The flag file is the UPLD.LST file but a very special one. Ok, makes sense. BG>Hope this problem has cleared up/ It's been running virutally unattented for over a week (My boss said I had to work for him for a change) and so far has exited every 3 to 4 hours every day. Whatever you did, seemed to fix it. Thanks! I have been getting a number of FDN files that fail CRC checks. When decompressed, they usually show crc errors in the archive. Had a 1meg+ file today that produced exception 13s everytime I tried to unzip it. Are you doing CRC checks on inbound FDN files? later D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2235 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/11/94 9:42p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jim, 10 Jan 94, 09:00, Jim St. John wrote to All: JJ> I assume that the 3615/51 seenby was added by my system when JJ> the message came back down? Since the message (coming back) is JJ> addressed to 3615/51, does that mean it will ignore the fact that JJ> it already has a seenby of 231/285 and import it anyway? It depends on what you're using as a tosser. Tosscan ignores seen-bys. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2236 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/12/94 3:56p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No You can't expect your tosser not to toss messages that have your node# in the SEEN-BY line. After all, in a conventional setup, all messages arriving in bundles for you have your node number in the SEEN-BYs. As to why your dupe checker is not catching them, what tosser are you using? --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: IMS BBS +1 503 254-2817 * 16.8k ZyXEL (1:105/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 2237 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 01/12/94 3:24p Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! 11 Jan 94, Fred Seibel writes to John Lyon: -> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> ->> these? ->> ->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. ->> ->> FS> Ditto, FS> Two days in a row now. FS> BUT, the probelm that this causes is that FS> my system wanted to send them to George Peace FS> at Protostar!! FS> Since the To: and From: lines were all messed up, FS> FD said "Hay off to the backbone with ye" !!! FS> Oh well!!! They got delivered here both times to the same point, 1:105/40.44 I still haven't heard a peep out of him. I didn't say anything because I was wondering how long it would take him to ask me about it. Albert --- GoldED 2.42.G1218+ TeamOS/2 - A Net105 Hub * Origin: Albert Gaylord's System (1:105/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 2238 To: ALL Date: 01/12/94 3:35p Subj: Garbage Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ============================================================================= * Forwarded by Albert Gaylord (1:105/40) * Area : NETMAIL (D'Bridge Netmail Area) * From : GapiTrack Script Exampdfrey, 3615/50 (07 Jan 37 00:00) * To : 1:105/40.44 * Subj : ReTaLIX't ============================================================================= ack" script exampdfeiginGAPen: *stion s: ===================[GAP.slt]============================= aod.otraPkstatus, 't impT_1,T_2,T_3; Mtao() 't{ 't T_1 =otraPk("Whis p theLRS> Color? (Y/N/Help) [Ene [snip] ttt$$$$$$$ Bruceythe fat$$$$$$$$ TACE BBS!t$$$$$$$$ Co-SysOpt$$$$$$$ FreeMtag rS09 -+- GEcho MICROTECH BBS, NEWPORT NEWS,VA, 804-595-8664, MESSAGES/DOORS/FILEL (9271/160andard (1:3271/1 1 ============================================== Here is another one. I am sticking it in since it shows an origin line. Is it a problem with 1:3271/1 or is the problem at PC? Along with this type of message, I get another one directed to 105/40.44 that is totally blank except the first line which says Jeremy D'Amour. Inneresting ;-) Albert --- * Origin: Albert Gaylord's System (1:105/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KERRY SUTLEY Number: 2239 To: ALL Date: 01/13/94 3:14p Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd and All, Im looking for a processor for the bag files to either convert them to Fido msg format to be processed by my tosser (GECHO) or a stand alone that will do both. Any Ideas out there??? Thanks Kerry Sutley * OLX 2.1 TD * A little a'disk & a little a'data * Origin: MACHINERY ONLINE * Guys Mills, Pa. * 814-789-4336 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1:/2601/581 (1:2601/581) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2240 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/13/94 4:24p Subj: Re: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tuesday January 11 1994 16:05, Bill Roper wrote to John Lyon: -> ->> Boyd, on Thursday (the 6th), I received about 80 GARBAGE messa -> ->> my Netmail directory. They were NOT NetMail messages though, becau -> ->> could see the conference headers in some of them. Any idea why I g -> ->> these? ->> ->> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. ->> ->> ->> -+- WM v3.10/92-0069 ->> + Origin: The Outer Limits 4 Nodes (1:2380/400.0) ->> BR> it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, BR> delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't BR> fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you BR> know what that does to message pointers (g)..... BR> is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other BR> Wildcat tossers experiencing this? BR> Bill.... BR> -+- WM v3.10/91-0097 BR> + Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) Hello Bill! Same thing happeded to me under QuickBBS/Freemail... on monday 10th & Tuesday 12th.. After deleting my messagebase and re-tossing all of Mondays Mail bundles, I discovered there was several dosen Corrupt messages that were tossed as Netmail and over 400 Dups in three Areas.. 80XXX, 4DOS and 60S_70S_PROGROCK echos in several *.PKT, one bundle was soo bad that if hung my mail processor, after I deleted that *.PKT the rest of the *.PKT tossed ok.. I don't understand why PCUTILS.EXE, accepted those Bundles and passed them on to my TOSS directory... Same thing happended on 11th and I had to Delete my Messagebase, and delete several *.PKT's that PKZIP 2.04g said had bad CRC's, before I could Retoss the Mail for the 11th.. So far WED mail has tossed and processed OK.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2241 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 01/13/94 4:36p Subj: RE: DIZ CONVERSION UTILITY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wednesday January 12 1994 11:10, Terry Blount wrote to John Burton: TB> John Burton wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JB>> I FReq'd DIZ2BBS.ZIP from you 06:54 CST this morning and got JB>> your ABOUT file in return... TB> I'll put it on hold for you. I don't know why so many people are getting TB> it and some don't? TB> -+- timEd-A10c TB> + Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) Hello Terry! I have a Clue... I Assume you have made it available by a MAGIC Name DIZ2BBS and not by a Wildcard like DIZ2BBS.* or DIZ2BBS.??? you original Notice did not make it clear that DIZ2BBS was a Magic name for File Request.. George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 2242 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/13/94 9:47a Subj: Re: DIZ CONVERSION UTILIT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jim St. John wrote in a message to Terry Blount: -> Unfortunately if there is no File_id.diz there is nothing short -> of manually reading the docs that anyone can do to get a -> description. Let me know if you can figure out how to get the -> file name that is written to the screen when ARJ runs to be -> written into the file with the ">" function. This has me -> baffled... but again that's easy to do. I really want to use -> the description provided by the author but I have to convert the -> .ARJ files to .ZIP in order for Diz2bbs to work. JSJ> Terry I remember you talking about this earlier, but don't JSJ> remember the specifics. If you could re-post a specific JSJ> description of what you are trying to do with ARJ I will JSJ> forward it to the Rime ARJ conference, the author hangs out JSJ> there, and I suspect he would know if anyone would! -jim- Normally the ">" or ">>" will redirect _everything_ that is written to the screen to a file.... HOWEVER when running Arj with the "S" parameter to make it redirect the File_id.diz to the screen the name of the archive the File_id.diz came from _IS_ written to the screen but not to the file the description is written to. The results is a bunch of descriptions in text file with no hint of what archive they came out of. With pkunzip the following command works perfectly: Pkunzip /c * *.diz >> outfile Each description is preceded by the archive name in the outfile. This should do the same thing with arj archives: Arj s -y * *.diz >> outfile But the name of the file is _NOT_ saved to the outfile although it is written to the screen. Thanks... I hope you understand the problem. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2243 To: ALL Date: 01/15/94 10:00p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everone. This is our fist message to Planet Connect. Just wanted to see how things are working. Steve Husk --- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999) * Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON BUCHANAN Number: 2244 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/16/94 6:23p Subj: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hey Boyd! what's up? I still wanna see an OS/2 PTCCMAIN.EXE or at least one that works reliably in DV ;-) ciao, jsb * Origin: Inside Ok! - +1-417-624-0000 - Joplin, MO USA - (1:286/702) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 2245 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/16/94 3:17p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BR>-> Same problem here, it's still doing this and it's the 10th now. BR>it's the 11th, and I got them again today.... kill the messages, BR>delete and get an error.... WCREPAIR them, and it still won't BR>fix the database... have to delete the whole thing, and you BR>know what that does to message pointers (g)..... BR> BR>is this just a Wildcat/Wildmail problem? anyone with other BR>Wildcat tossers experiencing this? We are getting them down here to, but PCBoard handles them just fine without message base corruption. I used to get lot's of message base corruptions while running WILDCAT 3.90/Wildmail and quickly changed from the Wildcat BBS software to PCBoard 15.0. Never had any message corruptions anymore after that!! Sorry to hear you're having problems with your message bases. TTYL Jacobo Oduber - sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS - coming to you from SUNNY ARUBA --- þ JFO þ Equality......when's it coming? --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2246 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/19/94 11:56a Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >John, the February 1 date problem with Pcutils is coming up soon. Any >idea if you will have an update ready by then? > >SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Sebastion, What Fef 1 date problem are you talking about? Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2247 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/19/94 10:46a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> BR> using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine. -> -> Bill, where can I get WCUUCP? Mustang... I jumped on it as soon as it was released, but if I were doing it now, I would get WILDUUCP from OCR as well as WCUUCP and compare them.... OCR has a txt file comparing the performance of the two, and WILDUUCP looks to be much faster... cheers.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2248 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/19/94 11:41a Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> A conversation with the folks at PC yesterday yielded: "90-95%, bu -> -> probably no 'x-rated' stuff". Sounds like no "alt.sex"! And they -> -> still working on pricing apparently. -> -> BR> that is going to be a BIG disappointement to many users..... -> -> BR> (including me...) -> -> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp folks. Wha -> think the draconian folks who arrested Tony Davis would do if they fo -> was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of the conten -> deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of banned material can -> serious charge. I don't know all the applicable laws but I don't thin -> folks at PC, wisely, want to become a test case. I don't think it's w -> compromising the existance of a very beneficial service to the net to -> these conferences. but they are already being sprayed with alt.sex from a satellite.... PAGESAT has been doing it for awhile now, carrying the ENTIRE Usenet feed, INcluding the alt.sex stuff..... I believe they are on K2, which is very copiable here in East Texas, and equally so in OK... hell.... no one is safe from those that would protect us from ourselves (g)...... cheers.... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL LANSALL Number: 2249 To: ALL Date: 01/19/94 2:48p Subj: Mac Distribution Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greetings. MDN doesn't seem to be getting you this node. Any ideas why? I heard a 'link' was 'cut'. Any word on when it will be back? Daniel, Prince George, B.C. Canada --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2250 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/19/94 7:17p Subj: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SA> John, the February 1 date problem with Pcutils is coming up SA> soon. Any SA> idea if you will have an update ready by then? Sabastian, I will be releasing a v199c.beta version no latter then the 26th of January with the full 2.00 doc file, I know the 199c is stable and if the 2.00 release is not ready by that date at least the 1.99 will get everyone that is using PCUtil around the date change problem and also get the index structure ready for the 2.00 final release. Things have been going a little slower here then I would like but I guess the cause of the problem is ME, every time I look at the code I change my mind, get in there and start messing around, and well you know how it is 10 minutes of code change 10 hours of debug... ;-) John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB OYLER Number: 2251 To: BOYD GOODWIN AND ALL PLANET CONNECT Date: 01/19/94 12:17p Subj: Internet Message Feeds - A way back in. 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"Internet Plug & Play"(sm), a fully configured BSDI Internet host computer with DNS, SMTP, NNTP and POP3 and News Readers, is available to ease the BBS and corporate market's entry onto the INTERNET. We offer the best value available. Please feel free to contact me for further information. Sincerely yours, Bob Oyler President DATABANK DATA: 913-842-7744 1473 Hwy 40, Lawrence, KS 66044 Voice: (913) 842-6699 Fax: (913) 842-8518 email info@databank.com FIDO 1:299/777 --- DB 1.54/004681 * Origin: Databank (1:299/777) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2252 To: FRANK SCHEEL Date: 01/20/94 2:10p Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does that mean that we can reasonably expect to see it work in an OS2 > environment? If so, has the company given you any idea of when this might > happen? > Later, > <_Frank_> depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec on a solution. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2253 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/20/94 2:13p Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're not, as it happens. I've been receiving replies from all over the > world (literally). Good! > Just to straighten out some confusion (please bear with me, I'm a tad > slow sometimes -- anyone in my net will vouch for that!): > It is NOT all right for Jeff to add 3615/51 to the seenbys. > Is it all right for Jeff to add 3615/50 to the seenbys? > (IOW: Does Jeff add that number to the seenbys because that > is the node he's supposed to send the outbound packets to?) His system will automatically add 50 to the seenbys. 51 is the uplink. If anything comes in with 541 in the seenbys then it never makes it over the satellite. If you are receiving replies then everything is working right. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2254 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/20/94 2:16p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. >> ..Boyd > I hope you aren't just leaving it at that! > Let get this working on a real operating system! Tim I spent an hour on the phone with IBM and got no farther ahead than if I did not call them at all. I got the impression that they dont realy care about finding a solution. No wonder they are losing money. ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2255 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 01/20/94 3:30a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <17 Jan 94 23:54:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes: SH>>Hello, Steve. I'm a newcomer here too -- maybe we can learn SH>together. SH> SH>Hi, yes I am sure we can. I really love this thing, so far so good :) I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment yet? Mine was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the preliminary video and 'location instruments'... Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2256 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/20/94 3:39a Subj: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <17 Jan 94 23:04:00>, John Hrusovszky (1:238/300) writes: JH>With this message, the Twilight Zone BBS now joins this echo. Hello, John. Long time no argue... :-) Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2257 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/20/94 3:49a Subj: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <18 Jan 94 21:17:34>, Bill Roper (1:3801/1) writes: BR>-> Sounds pretty simple, Bill. I'm a newcomer also and I probably BR>-> won't be getting my equipment for another week or two. I wonder if you BR>-> could give a brief outline of how a typical download works with BR>-> approximate process times? Assuming that you begin receiving a Fido BR>I have an event that starts at 0645, which is a few minutes BR>earlier than the first of the days transmission begins... when BR>all the files have been received, they send something that causes BR>the software to exit with an errorlevel, and that starts the BR>processing at this end.... That's Texas time, so it should be the same here in LA. BR>the time it takes depends on how much is coming... one of the BR>first things they send is UPLD.LST, which is a complete list BR>of what is coming that day... as soon as they finish all of BR>it, they start over again... has been running upwards of BR>3 hours.... You evidently process the UPLD.LST to prepare your directories for tossing, huh? BR>-> And I assume the transmissions run 24 hours -- can you just jump in BR>-> and start copying, or do you have to wait until a specific time before BR>-> you can receive data? BR> BR>yup... and you can jump in anytime... Assuming a 3 hour package, then there would be about 8 repeats in a 24 hour period, I suppose. That should be plenty of time to get corrections. Thanks for the summary. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2258 To: BOB ROSS Date: 01/20/94 7:13p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Katherine Schroeder, Bob Ross said: > Hello Katherine! > 16 Jan 94 10:40, Katherine Schroeder wrote to All: > KS> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Cameron > KS> since last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some > sent > KS> this past week have received no replies. > KS> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I can > KS> tell via date whether the system's working here. Thanks. > Arrived here in cool Calgary, Alberta, Canada. > Bob > --- GoldED 2.41 > * Origin: RJ's Byteline V32b/V.FC (403) 247-3180 Calgary > CANADA (1:134/75.1) I have you loud and clear here in South Alabama... Sysop The Multimedia Connection 1:18/16 --- * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565.3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2259 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/20/94 5:23p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> true. It's impossible to automate a system with this kind of -> situation. You need to send something letting everyone know what's -> happening. If you disagree If you really want it completely automated, you could just delete everything that you haven't set up to go somewhere. No matter how automated I get this thing, I suspect I'll always check the directories every day to see if there is anything unusual. PCBoard made it fairly easy to handle the files with no tics. Just logged into the board and uploaded *.zip from the PC files dir and they all went in with no further intervention on my part.. (Ok, I did have to move them from the upload dir to the games dir which took another minute or two). It seems like I've seen importers for files that contain a .diz for just about every BBS software. Maybe one of these could be added to your processing after you've pulled out the files with .tics..? Then you could handle them just like files uploaded by a caller. The Apogee games arrived on one of the first days I had the dish set up. I had no idea there would be stuff like this and was very pleased to see them! Mike --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe, IN * 219-453-4046 * V32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2260 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 8:17a Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Don! Saturday January 15 1994 12:51, Don Kulha wrote to Bill Roper: DK> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp folks. What do DK> you think the draconian folks who arrested Tony Davis would do if they DK> found out PC was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of DK> the content is deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of DK> banned material can be a very serious charge. The areas have been transmitted by the government computers for years.. Across state and international lines.. Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2261 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/20/94 4:43p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GC> There are several approaches, but the one I used to use was, with the GC> wonderful built-in line and string functions of 4Dos, GC> to isolate the filename from within each existing .tic GC> file, then use an if exist to check whether or not the matching file was GC> present. If so, move it to a processable dir. If not GC> have MButil post a warning msg to me and move the GC> unmated .tic to a holding dir. Once all .tics had been Since I wrote that original statement, I've had cause to eat my words on at least two other occasions. Now, it's two. Since I'm using OS/2, it's easier to write a small program to take care of the situation. One fellow in our net has written a program to seperate the TICed files from the non TICed files, and I believe I'm going to go ahead and expand the concept to include the ability to check for a file_id.diz and post the files in a seperate directory with a FILES.BBS. Of course, as you said, at some point it takes operator intervention to move the files to their appropriate area and to check the files that haven't any file_id.diz. Depending on the size of your system and the amount of work one is already involved in, automation, at some point, becomes a practical must. My original point was, and you've confirmed it, at some point, you have to take over and MANUALY work with the orphaned files. Thanks, Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2262 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/20/94 4:54p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> Surely, you just!? I think a few bytes of .BAT file is more WS> approprate than a large program on a large multi-line WS> system. I was only letting you know for your edification JF> I'm missing something; are you running gateway.exe JF> without dos4gw? (gateway.exe explicitly looks for and JF> loads dos4gw in the stub). My point is that I DON'T run gateway, and a .BAT file can be used to kick OS/2 into a DOS session when the offending DOS *.exe won't. Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read the AREAS.BBS where it's located. Keep up the good work. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2263 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 9:34a Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Don Kulha wrote in a message to Bill Roper: DK> Maybe even to the folks at PC but they're pretty sharp DK> folks. What do you think the draconian folks who arrested DK> Tony Davis would do if they found out PC was spraying them DK> with ALT.SEX from a sat? What if some of the content is DK> deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of banned DK> material can be a very serious charge. I don't know all the DK> applicable laws but I don't think the folks at PC, wisely, DK> want to become a test case. I don't think it's worth DK> compromising the existance of a very beneficial service to DK> the net to bring in these conferences. I don't understand how they would look at that any worse than the fact that every single University in the Country carries them. I have talked to the news server guy at my alma mater, and he says that they do carry those groups, but the second that someone complains they would drop them. So far they have had no complaints. I personally think we ought to try and put them out there and then if someone complains take them off the Satellite. Although the people in fidonet seem to have a lot more time to whine and complain than the usenet people do. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUONG Number: 2264 To: RIC WALSH Date: 01/20/94 2:48p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of (18 Jan 94 23:28:28), Ric Walsh wrote to John Luong: RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell RW> you everything you want to know. Thank you. I'll have to check that out. Thanks again. John --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2265 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 10:29p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Craig Clark: RH> Craig Clark wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: CC> Lantastic-Z will work on Micochannel, ISA or EISA as it just CC> uses the serial or parallel ports. For ethernet, you can CC> get Microchannel, ISA or EISA boards. RH> Thanks for the info Craig. I have Lantastic-Z but I lost the RH> cable like a week after I bought it and lost interest in it RH> right away. Do you know if those cables are anything special RH> for the parallel or serial ports? (Or better yet, do you RH> know the pin configurations?) You must have 'lost' the manual too.....The pin outs for both the serial and parallel cables are in the manual. :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2266 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/20/94 11:39p Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> With this message, the Twilight Zone BBS now joins this echo. SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a SA> couple months now. :-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up digital data systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc., and I never realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC system! This is the neatest thing since SatTec R2B's! . --jah ... The Twilight Zone BBS * ASP HUB BBS #3 * MidCentral USA --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD REED Number: 2267 To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 2:10a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to send mails -> back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this message out!! -> -> Thank -> Richard -> -> --- QM v1.26/b -> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AGGGGGRRRR!! InterEcho got damn origin bug!! Glad I caught it.. Anyone know how to add 3615/50 to seenby path for intermail? Richard --- InterEcho 1.00/b05 * Origin: M.T.C. Online BBS * Chesapeake, VA * 804-545-5083 (1:275/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2268 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/20/94 4:34p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> it takes me 20 minutes to do the tossing using GECHO, then I -> -> unpack my pkt into \WM\PRETOSS and run WM PRETOSS to get mine -> -> into Wildcat... whether by design or by accident, Wildmail -> -> doesn't give a damn WHAT address is used when doing WM PRETOSS, -> -> so it works well for me.... GECHO receives from 3615/50 and -> -> tosses to 3801/1 (me) and Wildmail merrily tosses the pkt from -> -> 3801/1 to 3801/1.... -> -> Bill I'm still confused as to exactly what GECHO does. Does it sor -> the packets so that WIldmail can toss them faster? it is a tosser that will toss into the hudson msg base as well as a couple of others... it won't toss directly to Wildcat.. but what it does do, and faster than Wildmail, is go through the entire feed from the satellite, checks for dupes at a tremendous rate of speed (compared to WM...) and toss to all of your downlinks, and of course to you..... after you get done with Gecho, unpack YOUR mail pkt into \WM\PRETOSS and call WM with the PRETOSS switch... as in WM PRETOSS this makes Wildmail toss whatever is in that directory without checking for dupes (or anything else for that matter.....) and of course all you have in that pkt, is mail that is actually destined for your bbs.... it is really a lot less complicated than it sounds.... I have promised to put together a "how to" on what I am doing for Mark Glenn by this evening, and I'll make it available to freq.... by the time you read this it will be available from 1:3801/1 as WC_GECHO.ZIP.... but as usual, all of the appropriate caveat's apply (g).... it works here, but your mileage may vary.... -> -> doing everything with Wildmail alone took me almost 3 hours to -> -> do on some days..... -> -> Jees, if I could get it done in 3 hours I'd be happy! too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138 newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby... cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2269 To: KIM PIERSON Date: 01/20/94 4:36p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> BR>does that translate to "my software is better than yours" (g)..... -> -> Now Bill, be nice....:) -> -> BR>just part of the learning experience.... after all, if I wanted -> >to live in an environment where nothing ever went wrong, I certain -> >wouldn't have a computer around the house (g)... -> -> And your wife may not have you around either....:) my gosh.... do I have to put up with you EVERYwhere I go (g)..... you might want to reconsider leaving the other net... Wendy/Peter bounced the offensive ones, and things have really cooled down.... glad we still have a place to rag each other.... cheers.... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 2270 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/19/94 11:59p Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Jason Fesler of 1:203/7707.1 writes: JF> Hector Mandel babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: HM>> I had no luck trying to get GIGO to read the .BAG HM>> files. The docs say nothing about it (did I miss HM>> something?)...it did not recognixe the .BAG files. What HM>> needs to be done to get it to work with the .BAGs? JF> What version? JF> "BAGS C:\dirname\" enables BAG support on the more recent JF> versions of GIGO. Make sure the version you have is dated JF> 1994. Thanks, Jason ... I was using a version from 1993. I'll give it a try. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2271 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 01/19/94 10:07p Subj: Re: testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 01-09-94 14:20, Paul Cormier munched on a Tribble and said to All about testing... PC> ! Origin: -ð CompuBBS ð- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 - Gotcha message in Victoria, Texas today. Looks like you're getting out, too. -=<-Katherine->=- ... I'm here to question all your answers. ~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2272 To: ALL Date: 01/19/94 10:12p Subj: Test Message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks to everyone who sent me confirmation that my test message of 16 January went out okay! -=<-Katherine->=- ... I'm locked inside a chocolate factory... DON'T send help! ~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 2273 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 01/19/94 8:03p Subj: Planet_Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Monday January 17 1994, Bob Slowinski writes to Jim St. John: Hello Bob! >> Ken I think you are exaggerating just a tad here aren't >> you? BS> When I first read his response I must say I was rather let down, and did BS> not think I would be able to get connected, I apologize Bob, seems I should have been anywhere than at the keyboard that day as I was in a mild RANT mood due to some system problems here caused by being unprepared for extra-normal file dumps from PC. Indeed 10g's is too much. Sorry for misleading you and besmirching the planet conect guys although, to be very frank...I'm finding that the system required to be able to carry everything they send, would DEFINATLEY have to have more than a gig worth of hard drives here and there. the fidonet backbone (which I have put up for my callers) is 110 megs with 200 messages per area (not very generous). If you wanted to put up internet, its a 100 megs a day..so assume you wanted (for some reason ALL of it) you'd need at least 700 megs to have some continuity of only one week's worth of mail. add up all the utilities to handle and process and show it to a bbs caller and you have a gig. ok, thats worst case "MAIL ONLY" senario..but now add files, we get around 6 megs average per day. in one month, barring any extra heavy file dumps, you'll have filled 120 megs in your average month. how much drive space do you have allocated for that? naturally you may not want it all either (i personally have no need for all the novell areas, gif, clipper, bla bla bla. but ..) If you were to take full advantage of all the data PC is sending..gigs of drive space would be the single most neccessary thing to make it all work. I upgraded from 400 to 550 and it was full in one week. Easy to say "Delete stuff" but what to delete? that great program from a month ago? or the stuff that just came in? 'sides...a bigger system is always the goal regardless of PC or not Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Wednesday January 19 1994 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB ROSS Number: 2274 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/19/94 9:49p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 19 Jan 94 01:30, Boyd Goodin wrote to Wallace Sheldon: BG> One thing I BG> have learned from all this is that no matter what I do to add things there BG> are some that are going to complain. I'm quite sure I could do a dissertation on this subject Boyd. It's a "fact of life" when you provide services to a group of individuals of our food chain :-). Bob --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: RJ's Byteline V32b/V.FC (403) 247-3180 Calgary CANADA (1:134/75.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2275 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 4:58p Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH> Do you know if those cables RH> are anything special for the parallel or serial ports? RH> (Or better yet, do you know the pin configurations?) I don't have a Lantastic-Z manual sitting around here, but the pinouts are in the back. You can't use a standard parallel cable, although a laplink cable might work for the serial side. Check the back of your manual - if you're handy with a soldering iron you'll have no trouble building one. -=- Craig. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2276 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/20/94 7:33p Subj: Re: lannet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> Is "lannet" a PC group or a Fidonet area.. I can't find DP> neither in my ACONFIG.SKY or FIDONET.NA/NO files. it's a fido file echo..it's in the filebone flagged as on the backbone...it's for lantastics...haven;t seen anything since i switched over to planet connect.. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS ## West Monroe, LA ## 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 2277 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/20/94 7:24p Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >> I'm going to be switching to Os/2 within a couple of weeks. Is th -> >> way to make the dongle work under OS/2? I'd like to cut everythin -> >> to working on one system, instead of 3 machines running under Lan -> -> > The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. -> > ..Boyd -> -> I hope you aren't just leaving it at that! -> -> Let get this working on a real operating system! -> -> Tim Jacobs - Nice to know that you recognize DOS, DESQview and NOVELL 3.11 as a "real operating system". ;) --- WM v3.10/91-0063 * Origin: C. J. M. C. - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/615) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRAY PLETSCH Number: 2278 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/20/94 11:46p Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > sorry that the one genealogy echo has to bite the dust, so to > speak :-) Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being chopped. Which echo was that....? Regards/.......Murray --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: (1:351/444) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2279 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/20/94 8:30p Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DP> Will PTCCMAIN.EXE work within a DOS box under OS/2? >No Dave, for the same reason as stated above. I'm running OS/2, also, and >would love to see it work under OS/2. Sure would make things a lot easier. > Wally Wally, Thanks. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2280 To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 1:03a Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How in the world are you other PCBoard BBS's out there adding your usenet newsgroups?? Manually? You can't just import PCUSENET.TXT into the likes of PCB-uuCP or UUPCB as it does not contain all the necessary information such as if it is moderated and if so by whom... I'm at a loss as to where to start unless we get an active list of usenet groups with the rest of the needed info... I mean won't we get in trouble if we set a usenet newsgroup as non-moderated and let messages go out? I want to start taking advantage of the usenet feeds, but I cannot because I don't have the proper info to set them up yet... please help me out someone out there that runs a PCBoard and has set up their system with the new newsgroups... HELP!!!! --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2281 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/20/94 9:36p Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Richard Reed to All *** RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this RR> message out!! RR> RR> Thank RR> Richard Nope, something must be wrong...didn't make it out... Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 2282 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 01/20/94 1:38p Subj: testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> Looks fine here on the West Coast of Canada....Nice to see GV> more Canadian sites springing up.... How about more Victoria sites :-). I'll be up and running soon. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 B1130 * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2283 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/19/94 10:40a Subj: Phone Number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, does PC have a 800 number or what is a voice number I can call to talk to a sales person. Thanks.. P.S. I sent you net mail requesting the info packet your sales people send out. last week. Acknowledgment would be nice. :{) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK HENNEKE Number: 2284 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 01/21/94 6:52a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Today is 16 January, and we've been on Planet Connect via Jeff Camero -> last weekend. Wondering if messages are going out since some sent thi -> week have received no replies. -> -> Any who respond to this message, please quote above paragraph so I ca -> date whether the system's working here. Thanks. -> -> -=<-Katherine->=- -> -> --- GEcho 1.00 -> * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1: -> -> Hello Katherine it seems your messages are getting out to Gonzales TX ok. Mark Henneke --- WM v3.10/93-0104 * Origin: RANGER STATION (210) 672-2219 (1:19/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2285 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/21/94 6:04p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138 -> newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the -> directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby... I am using WILDUUCP (from the same folks who brought you WILDMAIL) and it's amazing how much faster it is. I have WCUUCP but haven't tried it yet. I suppose I need to do that before my demo key for WILDUUCP runs out. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2286 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/20/94 10:14p Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All: BW> I mean, why let two programs confuse matters when BW> you're dealing with essentially the same function: BW> requesting areas. And SEAL is exceptionally well done. BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize same-zone BW> AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author responds to neither BW> netmail, nor unsolicited cash. BW> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly? yep I run it over here no problems, check out the TUB echo, Robert is in there every single day. I get replies back from him all the time, but never through netmail, just through the echo, and seal is a great! prg. Although I haven't had time to put the new version in yet. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2287 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/20/94 10:17p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All: BW> Otherwise, those lists are impentrable. BW> Know of any utility or door that employs that data to BW> make on-line searching and area requesting a bit less BW> daunting? Something capable of scanning the elist and BW> tagging area names so users could toggle areas on their own? you mean like a offline reader door? just give all of the echos to your users and let them download fidonet.na, and figure out what they want. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF MURPHY Number: 2288 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/20/94 9:07p Subj: Mr. Pierce Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > MP> To all you jerks! all of my messages that I have ever > Hey, did you notice that the sunrise was a little > brighter and the air a little fresher this morning? Nice > day isn't it! You had sex last night, didn't you. :-) --- * Origin: Mother Murphy's Point Portland, OR (1:105/222.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2289 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/21/94 10:56a Subj: Re: Notice! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> from PC and they aren't in either the ECHOLIST.NA or NO. >Many of the echos you listed appear in FidoNet.Na or .No and therefore are >properly being carried on the bird. Some of them are quite important >conferences :-) The thing is that an echo does not need to be listed in the >echolist to qualify, it needs to be listed in one of the fidonet.n? files. Glenn, Your right and I do stand corrected... of the list below I did find the following areas in either the FIDONET.NA or .NO. The others are not.. 3RDPARTY_CLN GENESIS_BETA --> In FIDONET.NA GENESIS_SYSOP --> In FIDONET.NA GT_ANSI MACFILES MSDNSYSOP QMX_XRS --> In FIDONET.NO SAN SB_SYSOPS --> In FIDONET.NA SDN_CONF SDN_PUBLIC SF_ANNOUNCE UTILNET2 WDNET_ADMIN WDNET_SYSO WDN_ADM >> WDN_ADM >That one, BTW, is the companion echo to the WordProcessing Distribution >Network file areas. If the file areas are transported, so too must be the >user echo. >.glenn. >WDN Coordinator. Glenn, I didn't mean to come across as not wanting them, it would only be nice to know what they are, particularly if they aren't described in the FIDONET lists and are being included as part of FIDO echos. BTW. Don't some areas have restrictions applied to them..? ie.. must be member of said net or sysop/administrator only. That sort of info would also be nice to know. Thanks Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL MCNAIR Number: 2290 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 11:11p Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Glenn Vermette to Richard Reed <=- GV> *** Quoting Richard Reed to All *** RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting this RR> message out!! RR> RR> Thank RR> Richard Nope - Sorry Richard ....... didn't make it to Hamilton, Ontario. Jan.21st, 1994 22:38 hrs. But keep on trying. ... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- * RoseMail 2.10*: NaNet, Eclectic, Lynden, ON (519) 647-3660 --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 2291 To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/21/94 5:35p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am a FidoNet NEC and I am testing a Grunged Message Detection program. I > have it running smoothly (only testing and no messages are deleted or stopped) > but need some input from you. I started running GMD here a few days ago to clean up our own mail feeds, and I found a number of interesting things. If allowed to do so, it would generate a LOT of complaint messages. Everything from multiple origin lines, data missing, data not in correct order, origin lines too long, non-ASCII characters (above 127), future dates (wrong year), old dates (wrong year) etc. As the author (correctly) points out, using it can violate FidoNet policy very easily if allowed to do so. I don't know how others feel about this issue, but these grunged messages were causing my mail tosser to hiccup, and generate NEW (grunged) outgoing messages. To make a long story short, if a message is seriously damaged, I kill it here, as well as the outgoing messages that GMD creates. What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run GMD, and send these complaint messages BACK to the nodes under it, but NOT send complaint messages elsewhere to the net. I think this would help a number of systems clean up the mail packets that they create, and make sure that they at least come close to what is required... When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of these messages (and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just let GMD do its thing quietly in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own feed, I can live with the consequences of a few killed messages, and a mail tosser that is a lot happier with what it gets. >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM HAAVISTO Number: 2292 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/21/94 5:38p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason. Just a quick THANK YOU for the PSORT program - works like a charm. I am glad to see that you will be adding support for having AREAS.BBS located elsewhere, and if you could limit the size of the packets it creates, I would be even happier. Off hand, looks pretty good for a first release! >Tom< --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 2293 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/18/94 9:29a Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No WS> BG> Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the WS> BG> majority like what I did. WS> BG> WS> need to send something letting everyone know what's happening. If you disagree WS> with that, then we have SERIOUS problems! Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are satisfied with things the way they are. Big clumps of files without .TIC's are a problem. But I'd rather have them than not, and it's unfair to expect Boyd to sit down and describe these things. Instead, scream at the moron who puts his files up without FILE_ID.DIZ or DESC.SDI. All of us who are on the ball have automatic DIZ processors (and we use them anyway on the TIC'ed stuff because the TIC's are only .5 lines) which make this stuff easy. Skaal, White Viking -}-----* *8) --- * RoseReader 2.10* P004668 Entered at [VIKINGS COVE] * RoseMail 2.10*: * NaNet 61/31/11 * Viking's Cove * (613)394-0685 --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2294 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/22/94 1:50a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and ready to RR> send mails back into PC... Let me know if anyone is gettting RR> this message out!! Got it fine in Cold, Cold, Wisconsin! . --jah ... Veni, Vidi, Clinti -- I Came, I Saw, I Lied. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SCOTT BROOKER Number: 2295 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/20/94 4:35p Subj: Re: Lantastic Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Check the back of your manual, you should find the pinouts for the lantastic Z cables.. Scott. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (1:348/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2296 To: MURRAY PLETSCH Date: 01/21/94 4:30p Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being > chopped. Which echo was that....? I don't remember the exact tag, but it appeared to be a French genealogy echo if I recall. It was in the list Boyd posted showing the "undesirables" :-) and was tagged something like Genealogy.fr?? --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2297 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/21/94 5:40p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Since I'm using OS/2, it's easier to write a small program to > take care of the situation. One fellow in our net has written a Wallace I think you're the second one I've seen saying they are using OS/2. How do you get it to work with PTCCMAIN? --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2298 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/21/94 9:29p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Know of any utility or door that employs that data to make on-line > searching and area requesting a bit less daunting? Something capable of > scanning the elist and tagging area names so users could toggle areas on > their own? This is not an attack, it is a statement of facts. If you run a good bbs, you can carry all the areas that come in, and you will have some sort of built in "area selection" that the user can use to pick the areas (s)he wants to read and ignore all the rest. RA calls it "Combined Reading" I dunno what the others call it. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2299 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 9:37p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > AGGGGGRRRR!! InterEcho got damn origin bug!! Glad I caught it.. Anyone > know how to add 3615/50 to seenby path for intermail? I didn't think that you wanted to put 50 in the seenbys. Boyd would never see it if you did that. See ya todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2300 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/21/94 7:24a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> Let me know if anyone is gettting this message out!! RR> * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) Message can through, but oh boy are you going to have problems with this tag line and aka.... ;-) John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2301 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/21/94 7:36a Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DP> What Feb 1 date problem are you talking about? Dave, due to a bug in the code of PCUtil, the control number: 0000FFFF.TU0 34376 FRIDAY 11-01-93 ^^^^^ in the CHECK.IDX file will fall back 30 days instead on incrementing by 1 day as it should, everything in the index will be wiped out on the first run after midnite on the 1st, so there will be no index to do a dup verification by and all files will be transferred to your holding directory wether thay have been received or not. I will have PCFU in distribution before that time so you can make a conversion over to it in a controlled situation and not dump a full day of dup messages into the echo pool...... John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KIM PIERSON Number: 2302 To: BILL ROPER Date: 01/21/94 10:17p Subj: Garbage Netmail Messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BR>my gosh.... do I have to put up with you EVERYwhere I go (g)..... Yep, ya never know where I'll pop up :) BR>you might want to reconsider leaving the other net... Wendy/Peter >bounced the offensive ones, and things have really cooled down.... I may in a couple months, I'm going to let the LD drop awhile and see how things are going to go at work with the new owners (the boss sold the company last week to a large corp). Gotta save the pennies for a larger HD with all the files that are dropping out of the sky now. BR>glad we still have a place to rag each other.... Ya, I was going to miss that sense of humor of yours . Kim --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Smoke Signals BBS Victoria Tx. 512-576-3990 (1:3802/218) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2303 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/22/94 7:27p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Since I'm using OS/2, it's easier to write a small program to > take care of the situation. One fellow in our net has written a GC> Wallace I think you're the second one I've seen saying GC> they are using OS/2. How do you get it to work with PTCCMAIN? I'm running PlanetC software on a seperate DOS machine, and sending the files over a direct connect on my 8th line at 57,600. It appears that PTCCMAIN will, itself, run in a DOS box on OS/2, but the Dongle won't work on OS/2. It's my understanding that the folks at PC are trying to get the manufacture of the Dongle to fix it so it will work on OS/2. It would be great to run everything on one machine. Sure would beat a LAN setup with several machines to do the job of one. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2304 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/18/94 5:02p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one BG> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones BG> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the BG> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. BG> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to BG> check andsee what kind of administative nightmare this will be. BG> ...Boyd Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd? I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2305 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 01/20/94 9:15p Subj: HOORAY! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> The place to ask would be HDCONF, Joe. Although I've not frequented JD> that echo recently, it used to have some *very* knowlegable people in JD> it. I have it on here, but haven't posted anything yet. Maybe I will get around to it tonight.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2306 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/17/94 2:11p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Tu 11-Jan-94 21:19, Jim St. John wrote: JSJ> They will carry "90-95%" of the newsgroups, but probably JSJ> not the 'x-rated' stuff. So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas? The way UseNet feeds are setup, is that when you request "Alt", you get everything under Alt, unless you specifically remove it. So, if they don't want to carry the Alt.Sex newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them. JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff. So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well? What kind of a setup are we looking at here? --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 2307 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 8:40p Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR>Boyd, RR>I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the RR>Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you RR>know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue to RR>add extra files like this. Ditto! I had some already but the remainder was greatly appreciated. Just had to install them manually, but I can live with it for those surprises... Bob * OLX 2.1 TD * ...SYSOP \'sis ap\ n: the person laughing as you type... --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2308 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/22/94 7:56p Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > if you run this Nodediff.021 about 2/3rd of NET382 will be MISSING... > you must return to using NODELIST.014, untill this bug is ixed next > week? Ummm that's kind of hard to do. Once the nodediff is processed, the new nodelist is the only nodelist that I have :( I hope nobody needs to call you direct in case of an emergency :) Thanks for the notice. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2309 To: TIM JACOBS Date: 01/22/94 3:25p Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The "LOCK" will not work under OS2. TJ> I hope you aren't just leaving it at that! TJ> Let get this working on a real operating system! This is a fault/feature of OS/2, not of the Planet Connect software. OS/2 does not allow for direct access to hardware dongles. It's certainly conveivable that IBM could change that, but in the mean time there is nothing that can be done, except remove the dongle check. :> --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2310 To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 01/22/94 12:07p Subj: Re: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the >Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you >know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue >to add extra files like this. Rick, Even though I had most of them already, I too appreciated the service from Planet Connect. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2311 To: MARK HENNEKE Date: 01/22/94 1:45p Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 01-21-94 06:52, Mark Henneke munched on a Tribble and said to Katherine Schroeder about Test message MH> Hello Katherine it seems your messages are getting out to Gonzales MH> TX ok. Hey there, Mark! I figured you were involved in this thing. :) Yep, we've got things running now. Except that COM2 fried the other day and Jeff had to reconfigure for COM1. How's the userbase in Gonzales these days? -=<-Katherine->=- ... We've missed you; we'll aim better next time! ~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2312 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/22/94 3:58p Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> too bad our tossers don't work like WCUUCP.... tossed 138 -> -> newsbags this morning... there was over 20 meg in the -> -> directory... in only 15 minutes.... not too shabby... -> -> I am using WILDUUCP (from the same folks who brought you WILDMAIL) an -> it's amazing how much faster it is. I have WCUUCP but haven't tried -> yet. I suppose I need to do that before my demo key for WILDUUCP run -> out. according to the comparison sheet that OCR put out, it is MUCH faster than WCuucp, but I have a feeling that they compared it to the first version that Mustang released... cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2313 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/22/94 4:41p Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ===================================================================== -> * Forwarded by George Vandervort's Gerbils (1:382/8) -> * Area : NET382-SYSOP -> * From : George Vandervort, 1:382/8 (Friday January 21 1994 16:28) -> * To : All -> * Subj : NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD -> ===================================================================== -> -> Hello All! -> for those who ran NODEDIFF.A21 and can't find me in the Nodelist.. -> -> -> NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE -> -> This weeks NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD.. did you make someone mad at you George (g)...... cheers... Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2314 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/22/94 10:19p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of these >messages (and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just let GMD do its >thing quietly in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own >feed, I can live with the consequences of a few killed messages, and a mail >tosser that is a lot happier with what it gets. >>Tom< Tom, I would suspect that Fido is plagued with Grunged Messages. Everyday I see violations and it only seems to grow. Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring. Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie.. GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than 64k to 128k of messages. With the total echomail traffic in Fido nowadays, it doesn't take long for that threshold to be reached. The old reliable ConfMail is capable of keeping track of upto 6,000 per area, and with upto 600 areas, that would allow 3,600,000 total messages to be kept track of. Dupes don't slip by that often. Heck, here are the stats from Boyd on the above topic alone. > To: ALL Origin: 1:3615/50 > Duplicate Statistics > ==================== > Period: 1994-01-21 to 1994-01-22 > TOTAL: 509 >--- QM v1.26/b > * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2315 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 12:17p Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec on a solution. IBM has hosted TONS of seminars helping vendors port their device drivers...I wonder how willing Aztec is to spend the money to make it so? Have you missed the message where someone recently said they would port the code for you? It has been in the last week in this conference if I am not mistaken. --- RBBSMail/386 v0.991 * Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EDDIE ROWE Number: 2316 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/22/94 12:17p Subj: Os/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Tim I spent an hour on the phone with IBM and got no farther ahead than i BG>I did not call them at all. I got the impression that they dont realy care BG>about finding a solution. No wonder they are losing money. ;-) The division of IBM responsible for OS/2 continues to rake in the cash, OS/2 sales last year were reported to be over 5 million and steadily climbing -- don't let the hype from Microsoft and their magazines pull the wool over your eyes. Do you even know if you're calling the right folks at IBM -- I have called many companies in the past and had difficulty getting past the operators since I didn't know whom to ask for. Be willing to bet you a $1 if you (or Aztec persons) were to post a rundown on the problem, and inquire as to whom to contact at IBM or where to get info in the OS2PROG conference (OS/2 Programming) in Fidonet you might be successful and make lots of persons happy who no longer use DOS. --- RBBSMail/386 v0.991 * Origin: WER Development 318-345-1955 (1:136/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2317 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/22/94 10:17a Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Lundell babbled profusely in a message to All: JL> How in the world are you other PCBoard BBS's out there JL> adding your usenet newsgroups?? Manually? You can't just JL> import PCUSENET.TXT into the likes of PCB-uuCP or UUPCB as JL> it does not contain all the necessary information such as if JL> it is moderated and if so by whom... I'm at a loss as to JL> where to start unless we get an active list of usenet groups JL> with the rest of the needed info... I mean won't we get in JL> trouble if we set a usenet newsgroup as non-moderated and JL> let messages go out? I want to start taking advantage of JL> the usenet feeds, but I cannot because I don't have the JL> proper info to set them up yet... please help me out someone JL> out there that runs a PCBoard and has set up their system JL> with the new newsgroups... HELP!!!! While I don't know much about PCBoard, I'd like to think I have a few clues on the usenet stuff, as I had to learn them to write the gateway programo GIGO. (shameless plug). Anyhow.. If you allow a user to post to a moderated newsgroup, when you send the messages to your uplink, the uplink simply won't forward them, since they do not contain the proper authorization. I wouldn't worry about breaking something :-) As to _where_ to get this information: Start watching news.answers and news.lists; they usually every couple of weeks get an updated list posted there, along with the moderators of the newsgorups. news.lists will be the easier place to find this information. Depending on who you are sending the email and newsgroups through (since you can't do that through P.C.), they may already have the information you are seeking. Ask your provider. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2318 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/20/94 11:58p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason, 19 Jan 94, 12:53, Jason Fesler wrote to Wallace Sheldon: JF> Actually, as soon as the os/2 half of development finishes the JF> updates, areas.bbs support in other directories has been added, as JF> well as the ability to specify the max amount of memory to use. Is there a max number of messages it can handle? I received about 17,000 messages at one time one day this week due to a backlog and it barfed. I normally get 11,000 to 13,000 messages and it's handled that flawlessly. BTW, I'm our NEC and get my feed from the NC, who owns the PC stuff. Therefore, I don't have to process the whole back. I'm running in a VDM under OS/2 2.1 if that matters. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2319 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/22/94 10:39a Subj: Plan_conn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Wallace! Tuesday January 18 1994 18:04, Wallace Sheldon wrote to Bill Roper: BR>> using WCUUCP here, and as far as I can tell, it works just fine... WS> Bill, where can I get WCUUCP? WcUUCP is available from Mustang in Bakersfield, CA or check several ads in Boardwatch which sell Mustang products at a discount. I inquired at COMPUsa which now sells Wildcat! but does not offer any utilties or option packages. List price is $299.00 I would like to suggest WILDuucp.... it's cheaper ($149), will do gating to Fidonet packets, and generally has more options. The only potential downside is for Wildcat! 4.x alpha and beta testers, the Mustang version will most likely be available much sooner. Wilduucp does not include a printed manual, but the 300+ page manual on disk is well written and helped clear up a lot of confusion about several questions I had connecting to a Internet service provider. The Mustang printed manual is strictly a "how to use our software" booklet. On a program to program comparison, they are very similar. Wilduucp: Online Computer Resources Attn: Joe Martin 601 Sacramento Suite 1406 Vallejo, CA 94590 (707)552-1122 Fidonet 1:161/502 --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2320 To: RIC WALSH Date: 01/22/94 10:29a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ric! Tuesday January 18 1994 23:28, Ric Walsh wrote to John Luong: JL>> I am writing a paper about communications satellites and was JL>> wondering if anybody from Plannet Connect could tell me about JL>> what satellite they broadcast through, and a little information JL>> about it. RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you RW> everything you want to know. This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few details in the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido group has already installed a PC dish, but I have also been looking at Plannet Connect and several other services for Internet connectivity for two separate projects. Getting detailed questions answered has been difficult, the response has been little more than "buy a dish and you'll figure it out"...... David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CRAIN Number: 2321 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/21/94 2:50p Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Whitehouse wrote in a message to All: BW> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly? It's working here for the echomail part, and quite well. The files/tic part seem to be a little broken for arcmailattach mailers. I'm working with the author to see what's wrong. If you need to talk to Robert, he's quite active in "TUB" the Squish support area. Regards, Gary --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Rendezvous!! 14.4_V32b_512-303-1324 (1:382/92) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTY DUPLISSEY Number: 2322 To: ALL Date: 01/22/94 6:52p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello all! This is a test. Please respond Marty --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Marty's Mess OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 PVT (1:398/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2323 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 01/22/94 2:56p Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been >> SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad >> SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a >> SA> couple months now. >> :-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up digital >> data systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc., >> and I never realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC >> system! SA> Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of SA> messages/files etc that we are getting. There just aren't SA> enough hours in the day to go through all this stuff! Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to sort through also. --jah ... Hard Work has a Future Payoff. Laziness Pays off Now. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2324 To: ALL Date: 01/23/94 8:38a Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello I have a couple of questions. I am running Remote Access and Frontdoor here with Planet Connect. How do I get the Rosenet and pcusnet and all of the other stuff tossed. I dont have a problem with Fido. I am using Fmail for a Toss. I know I need some other utilities to handle these other areas but I dont know what.. Thanks for any help.. Gill Blue --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2325 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/24/93 2:35p Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I appologize for that Martin. I saw that happening. You had called du -> upcoming event and didn't have time for the DL. I am very sorry. I am -> that file to your system right now. Let me open a window and do that. -> Let me know if you received it ok. Look in your inbound. Thank you. Received in good order. Appreciate you sending it. I run D'Bridge. With my events, the caller still is allowed to finish the call and then the event runs after the call is completed. Guess I'm just used to being able to do things that way.....grin... Again, thanks for sending the file. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2326 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/26/93 10:38p Subj: Seasons Greetings! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Now I am off to take a well deserved day off! Gonna have to call and talk to your boss if you are being given a WHOLE day off. That just ain't right. You are only allowed 3 minutes a day of free time and I've alrady used up at least 2 years worth. Get back to the GRIN-STONE you slackert!!! -- GGRRIINN -- Hope you had (or have) a pleasant day off and come back all refreshed and charged up for the tasks ahead. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2327 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/26/93 10:53p Subj: Dupes ??? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Ok, first, I am NOT talking about my OWN messages coming back. Is -> just my system, or is there a SERIOUS dupe loop happening. I just rea -> through about 120 messages, of which 60 were original and the others -> dupes. Getting the same here. But at least it gives me a chance to read the message again, just in case it really was important..... grin...... Me thinks someone has something set wrong and has forgotten to severe the LandLine link. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2328 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/28/93 12:03a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yes once I had it set right. Now I am getting routed netmail to un -> nodes and you name it. So I guess it is up to everyone to get thier s -> straight now eh? That sounds about right. Seems that some systems think that they can route netmail bound for other nets through fidonet nodes and it will work.........If it ain't in the fidonet nodelist, it ain't gonna get routed correctly..... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2329 To: BOB SLOWINSKI Date: 12/28/93 11:03p Subj: this echo? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Just wondering if this echo is active? No, just a few messages an hour.......grin. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2330 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/30/93 12:55p Subj: New File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone have any ideas what these File distribution areas are? T -> showed up on the bird over this last weekend. -> -> 2-BBS -> 2-PIC -> 2-WINDOW -> -> They all contained SDN/SDA files apparently intended for a "2-*" area -> they are not on the Filebone.Na list. Try reading the file called FILEBONE.NA and you will have your answer. The SDN areas are undergoing a major change in structure and are all getting new names. If you can't find a copy of FILEBONE.NA anywhere else, freq it from me at 1:232/10 most anytime. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2331 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 9:22p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > What net are the from and I will pass them on to fill up someone -> > elces HD with them. -> -> We got all the games in on tape and decided to send them over the s -> mistake on my part. No, not a mistake. Just a fumbling, bumbling, and tumbling rumbling to help some stumbling sysops that might not have had all of the Apogee and Epic collection. Since I already had all of these, I just deleted them, but now every system connected to you has had the opportunity to have the creme-de-la-creme of the games available. Nice touch.......... but then, what else could one expect from such a gamey outfit.... All of this is just my opinion and doesn't necessarly reflect my opinion (grin)..... --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2332 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/03/94 9:24p Subj: Re: CRC problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > JJ>Yepper's your not alone.... Mostly the LIMBAUGH echo and a few -> > others.... -> -> > Obviously a femi-nazi or Clinton/liberal plot! -> -> My motherboard was made by Clinton Electronics! So that's why it steps out on you sometimes and has an Amiga on the side... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON KULHA Number: 2333 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/22/94 9:44a Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DK> you think the draconian folks who arrested Tony DK> Davis would do if they DK> found out PC was spraying them with ALT.SEX from a DK> sat? What if some of DK> the content is deemed pornographic? Interstate transportation of DK> banned material can be a very serious charge. RA> The areas have been transmitted by the government computers for years.. RA> Across state and international lines.. No doubt....but if you were a prosecuter in OK who would you rather go after....the federal government or a small private business? I hope the folks at PC remain cautious; they're providing a wonderful service and I'd hate to see some neandrathal agency shut them down. Anyhow, thanks for your thoughts. Before the moderator whacks me and tells me to take this to POLITICS I'm going to drop this thread. Ciao..... DCK --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN COOK Number: 2334 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/23/94 1:56a Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize BW> same-zone AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author BW> responds to neither netmail, nor unsolicited cash. The author does respond to messages in the FidoNet TUB echo. - Dan --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2335 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/23/94 8:01p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message to Boyd Goodin <01/18/94> Joe Hayes wrote: JH> BG> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one JH> BG> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones Boyd, any chance of sending PCUSENET.TXT down again. I cant believe it but I lost the bloody thing! I see we are getting more and more USENET groups coming down, keep up the good work. * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v2.04/92-0555 * Origin: Naperville File Exchange BBS 317-447-9653 (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2336 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/23/94 10:52p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas? The way -> feeds are setup, is that when you request "Alt", you get everything u -> unless you specifically remove it. So, if they don't want to carry t -> newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them. -> Bear in mind that I am just repeating what was told me in a phone conversation, and it may be true/false/ and or subject to change. I have seen that the alt.sex newsgroup is on now, but haven't seen any traffic in the others (only been getting newsgroups here for a couple of days), although some are listed in the pcusenet.txt file, which, as I understand it, is supposed to be a list of the groups now in the sat feed. -> JSJ> They are still working on a pricing structure for folks -> JSJ> who want Newsgroups *and* the other stuff. -> -> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well? Again, I got the impression when I talked to them that the details hadn't been worked out but that usenet would probably be priced separately from everything else, but no decision (at that time) as far as pricing for customers that want it all. Hopefully Boyd or someone actually there may have an update for us. -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2337 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 01/23/94 6:33p Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you >RW> everything you want to know. > > This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few > details in the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido Yes there were/have been some changes since that was written in mid December. They are now selling video equipment if you want TV also was really the biggest change. When researching, I called on this item for verification in writing the article and I got the confused guy that always says 'sir' at the end of every sentence. Polite enough but I've learned to ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if he answers. PC's biggest issue with the article was that they all had to go out and buy new crayons for the installation doc's. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: The Outdoor Sportsman's BBS (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2338 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 01/23/94 4:23p Subj: Re: PCUTILS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DP> What Feb 1 date problem are you talking about? > >Dave, due to a bug in the code of PCUtil, the control number: >0000FFFF.TU0 34376 FRIDAY 11-01-93 >in the CHECK.IDX file will fall back 30 days instead on incrementing by 1 >day as it should, everything in the index will be wiped out on the first >run after midnite on the 1st, so there will be no index to do a dup >verification by and all files will be transferred to your holding directory >wether thay have been received or not. I will have PCFU in distribution >before that time so you can make a conversion over to it in a controlled >situation and not dump a full day of dup messages into the echo pool...... >John...... John, Thanks for the info, appreciate it. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2339 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 01/23/94 4:25p Subj: Re: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > RW> Buy a copy of this months BOARDWATCH magazine and it should tell you > RW> everything you want to know. >This is fine for a report or research, but I have noticed that a few >details in the article have changed or were left out. Our local Fido group >has already installed a PC dish, but I have also been looking at Plannet >Connect and several other services for Internet connectivity for two >separate projects. >Getting detailed questions answered has been difficult, the response has >been little more than "buy a dish and you'll figure it out"...... >David David, If you have any questions go ahead and ask. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2340 To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/23/94 9:55p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mauro, If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of Fido (because of non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it. Gary --- * RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2341 To: TODD LYONS Date: 01/23/94 5:23a Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No According to Todd Lyons (1:3807/104) on Fri, Jan 21 at 21:29: >> Know of any utility or door that employs that data to make >> n-line searching and area requesting a bit less daunting? TL>This is not an attack, it is a statement of facts. If you run a good TL>bbs, you can carry all the areas that come in, and you will have some TL>sort of built in "area selection" that the user can use to pick the TL>areas (s)he wants to read and ignore all the rest. RA calls it TL>"Combined Reading" I dunno what the others call it. We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or diskspace to justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely possible. You know of one? I assume there are a lot of smaller, well run systems like ours out there scratching by on a shoestring and a prayer, folks who would love nothing better than to give their users the same easy access they enjoy. Whether they're a dish downlink or not. Is big better? Probably. But it's not always a choice. --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2342 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/23/94 5:40a Subj: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No According to Guy VanDell (1:116/80) on Thu, Jan 20 at 22:14: BW>> Anyone else here ever get SEAL to work properly? GV>yep I run it over here no problems, check out the TUB echo, Robert is in GV>there every single day. Thanks, I will. GV>seal is a great! prg. GV>Although I haven't had time to put the new version in yet. I figured it was, it's clearly put together with care but it's always reassuring to hear it confirmed when some bonehead move you make happens to break it. --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2343 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/23/94 7:05p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Joe Hayes wrote: JH> Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd? JH> I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will. Any of the specified areas that you have in your config file can be redirected to the NUL device rather than to any area on your disk drive. See previous posts in PCSITES or drop me a note there and I'll give you the lines you need in the pc config to drop usenet (I'd do it now but I'm not logged into the PC Connect machine at the moment so can't grep the info). --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2344 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/23/94 7:09p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James McOrmond wrote: JM> So they're actually going to specifically not receive areas? JM> The way UseNet feeds are setup, is that when you request JM> "Alt", you get everything under Alt, unless you specifically JM> remove it. So, if they don't want to carry the Alt.Sex JM> newsgroups, they'd specifically be removing them. Actually your news config file for your site can specify any portion of a usenet newsgroup heirarchy as NOT receive or receive. You could have alt.bbs and alt.sex (and all derivatives of those heirarchies) and no other alt newsgroups or you can get alt and then specify NOT alt.sex if you wish. JM> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as JM> well? Sounds like there will be a combined fido/usenet rate in the area of 50-55 US last I heard but that is unsubstatiated rumour on my part and is subject to all the normal disclaimers. Personally, I get almost a full feed at present but if the price is reasonable I'll drag both in via the bird. JM> What kind of a setup are we looking at here? For usenet you need either a unix style reader like tin for OS/2 or a BBS like Waffle to get full compatibility. Using Fredgate (I can vouch for this one) or GIGO (sounds like it's a good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize your own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the newsgroup to fidoecho and back as needed. That means you get Packets that are tossed to new echos that correspond to your news. There are probably quite a few packages out there for Amiga as well but I run IBM so I can't help there. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2345 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:23a Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > First off who is Dan? Dan is the same gentleman that we've spoken with on several occasions now, Boyd, and the same gentleman who took our credit card information over the phone, updated our registration code and advised us of the weather related problems last weekend when we called to see if that was what had occurred when the satellite feed was down for a bit. I have slight hearing loss in the low range so it's possible that I misunderstood his name if he has a low voice, but Remus understood his name to be Dan also. > This could happen. If you see a 6144 error then it is a dat time > violation. If the clock goes back in time wit will come up with this. Okay, thanks for the info, we were concerned about his question and how or what he meant by it, Boyd. > Which I told your hubby. For the first time renewal it is retroactive > from the date you specified in the contract where it asdks what date you > started using Planet Connect. This has always been our policy. Ahhh, okay, I understand that as well, Boyd. Btw, he's not my hubby yet and you're still invited to the wedding if you can get away in time. > This should not of happened. Our policy is that we ONLY reset the lock > for 90 days even if you have payed a full year in advanced. This part I really don't fully understand. If the check or charge card has cleared and the money is in the Planet Connect bank account, why would the lock only be reset for 90 days? I'm sure you have your reasons for it, but I am curious. > Depends. If you read the contract it stated that it your subscription > would start on the day you put in for starting to use Planet Connect. I also > explained to your hubby why we have the 90 days limit. If you got reset for > the full year what are you complaining about? We did read the contract, Boyd, although admittedly we did not consult with our attorney to see if it was kosher by him. What I'm complaining about is the way things were handled and asking you, basically, could it not have been handled more easily by your office had the staff been more knowledgeable regarding your services and/or policies. > Thats why the 90 day limit. If you did not pay then we just dont reset > you till you did. Understandable, but that means that 1) the subscriber may not be aware of the problem and can't take the necessary steps to make things right and 2) Planet Connect doesn't get their money in as timely a manner as it might. I think we both agree that Planet Connect isn't a non-profit organization and therefore relies upon the income provided by it's subscribers. Wouldn't it be better to give some type of notification in advance and allow the subscriber to rectify the problem rather than simply cut him/her off? Just a thought. > Well takes time to train people. Did you learn everything about how our > program works and what is involved in getting data over the sat overnight? Not at all, Boyd, but when people call for support, they expect to be able to speak with someone who at least conveys a basic knowledge of their services or is willing to find out. At this time, that seems to be only you, Boyd, and since you're often busy or otherwise unavailable that often leaves questions unanswered until such time as you may be reached. True, it takes time to learn something new, but unless we speak directly with you it seems that we are unable to receive information or answers. Again, this doesn't speak well for the company you work for. I believe that at this time, Planet Connect is the only game in town, but this may not always be the case and the business that is turned away by poor support or services may not be back later. > Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are as > organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I had > no idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it all > out. And you've done an admirable job of learning it all, Boyd. The problem is that you appear to the be the only one doing so. You are the one who seems primarily involved with answering questions and providing support via this echo and probably others on other networks. Are we incorrect in desiring the same level of support or knowledge from other support personnel when we make a voice call to your offices? > lucky. If I would have been there when Jim reset your lock there would have > been no way that he would have did it for a year. Policy is policy and come > hell or high water I will stay with my decisions. Ahhh, so Dan=Jim! I seem to recall your having told me that once before, Boyd. That does clear up some confusion on our part trying to figure out who we spoke to if it wasn't someone named Dan. At any rate, I am aware that you don't own the company, Boyd, but I do admit confusion when you speak of "my decisions." Are you the person who makes policy for the company? Also, I don't recall asking you to go against your policy although I have questioned the purpose of some of them. > I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast > enough for you. Actually, I believe you're putting words in my mouth here, Boyd. My question was whether or not it would improve. I imposed no timetable on improvement, but did want some assurance that it would do so. I am known to be rather vocal at times, Boyd, but I made an effort in my message, to which yours was a reply, to not be strident. Perhaps I missed the mark and if that was the case I do apologize, but I feel that my question(s) are valid and deserving of a response. --)@ Patty @(-- --- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2346 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:22a Subj: What the Hell@!!!!!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No No can do. We do not process any of the other networks. Unless each network that is sending to us has a dish and does the gating, it will never happen on our end. Makes sense. Just thought I'd ask. Thanks for the response. --)@ Patty @(-- --- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2347 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 1:26a Subj: Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well Patty, what can I say? Except, that the majority like what I did. So, majority rules. Not a problem, just a comment. --)@ Patty @(-- --- Sqed/32 0.87/unreg * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS (318) 865-4503 (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE NEWMAN Number: 2348 To: EMMETT PERDUE Date: 01/23/94 1:49p Subj: Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Emmett! Just a test to see if we've got this all correct. For others in this echo I'd like to say...Hey, sorry for the test but how do you think the Wright Brothers did it? Thanks! Steve --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House West * Warren, Or. * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 2349 To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 01/23/94 10:00p Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like -> the Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought -> I'd let you know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I -> hope you continue to add extra files like this. I appreciated them too but I lost all the stuff on that drive when I installed Stacker. It's too bad Boyd couldn't send them again. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:2401/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2350 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/23/94 8:10a Subj: New net addition Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, I'm new to this echo. I was wondering what the procedure would be to have a new net placed (request to be placed) in the system? There is a new net forming, Stormnet (not weather related) and they are expanding into Canada now. Thanks for any help. Mauro =-=-= --- FMail 0.96â * Origin: (null) (1:353/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2351 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/21/94 5:22p Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Wallace Sheldon babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: JF> I'm missing something; are you running gateway.exe JF> without dos4gw? (gateway.exe explicitly looks for and JF> loads dos4gw in the stub). WS> My point is that I DON'T run gateway, and a .BAT file can be WS> used to kick OS/2 into a DOS session when the offending DOS WS> *.exe won't. My appologies; I wrote two different things using the same extender. Same rules apply to PSORT (it looks for DOS4GW first). WS> Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read WS> the AREAS.BBS where it's located. Keep up the good work. No prob Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2352 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:24p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Marty! In a message to All <01/22/94> Marty Duplissey wrote: MD> Hello all! MD> This is a test. Please respond I hear you!!!!!! PING PING PING * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2353 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 11:31p Subj: USENET FEED Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! I looked at the dates on the last Newsgroups sent and it was 1/22/94. I was wondering when the feed will become steady so I can drop some of my land line Newsgroups. Cant wait to see the phone bill drop. Art NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 * WCE 1.5/2087 * Mail not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic (b)lame sysop --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 2354 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/24/94 5:45p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or diskspace to > justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a > burden in the absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there > really is one out there already and I haven't found it yet, which is > entirely possible. You know of one? Gecho 1.02+ works great! I have waited for this one on pins and needles as I wanted t add more PC areas to my BBS. You can pick it up from your reg site.. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2355 To: WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Date: 01/24/94 8:48p Subj: UseNet Newsgroups, BitNet Mailing Lists, Etc. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am a member of Net 1:103 in Southern CA. We recently purchased a Planet Connect system and have found its service for FIDO echomail and files to be as close to perfect as could be desired once the configuration problems on our end were cleared up. What I am trying to find out, is what Internet features (UseNet newsgroups, BitNet mailing lists, gated E-Mail to connected networks, etc) are now, or will be, supported. And what the costs are now, or are expected to be. Any definitive information will be greatly appreciated! __ \/ dj --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2356 To: WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Date: 01/24/94 8:52p Subj: Adding Networks To Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Me again. I'm putting these in seperate messages to help keep the threads straight.... I am a member of a couple of smaller networks. What would "proper" procedure be to go about possibly adding an addition network to the PC feed? What security measures could be provided to limit distribution of the echos? What can be done to prevent a system connected directly to PC from posting into an echo that they have been banned from by the moderator? Any definitive information is apreciated! __ \/ dj --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2357 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/24/94 2:16p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> Then remember to run MAKECFG.EXE to create a new CONFIG.SKY GV> Regards, GV> George Vandervort Thanks George, I "stumbled" on it after trying a few different ways.. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2358 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 2:17p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> Any of the specified areas that you have in your config file can be DW> redirected to the NUL device rather than to any area on your disk DW> drive. See previous posts in PCSITES or drop me a note there and I'll Thanks Dan, I have it going to NUL now.. * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2359 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/24/94 10:55p Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Hmmm....I missed any reference to the genealogy echo being >> chopped. Which echo was that....? > > I don't remember the exact tag, but it appeared to be a French > genealogy echo if I recall. It was in the list Boyd posted showing > the "undesirables" :-) and was tagged something like Genealogy.fr?? Hi Glenn, I think you are referring to the FM-GENEALOGIE echo. It originates from Montreal and is gated into WGA (I believe). However, I've had a local feed for this one for over two years. It helps to be right on the border... Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2360 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:17a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello all! -> -> This is a test. Please respond -> it worked, Marty..... cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANONYMOUS Number: 2361 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/23/94 11:15p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 22 Jan 94 22:19:00, Dave Petrucci muttered something to Tom Haav DP> Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring. DP> Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie.. DP> GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than DP> 64k to 128k of messages. With the total echomail traffic in DP> Fido nowadays, it doesn't take long for that threshold to be DP> reached. The old reliable ConfMail is capable of keeping track Agreed this is a big problem. I was using FMail (whose dupe checking is totally inadequate) as a registered user but the volume coming off the dish is so high that I switched to FastEcho. It supports more than the 512 areas that Fmail did and will dupe check up to the last 131000 (yes, that is one hundred thirty one thousand) messages. This ought to be enough, even with the high traffic of fido. Eric --- * Origin: The Tek Room Node 1 (304)292-4744 (1:277/1) --- QM v1.26/b * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2362 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 9:27p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Marty! In a message to All <01/22/94> Marty Duplissey wrote: MD> Hello all! MD> This is a test. Please respond MD> Marty Your test got here in TN just fine. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * This is an egg... this is an egg on a 486DX-50 cpu... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 2363 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/24/94 10:22p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill, > We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or > diskspace to justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's > 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence of a JAM > tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out > there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely > possible. You know of one? The JAM'able GEcho has been out for a short while now... Works GREAT! John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2364 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/25/94 12:04a Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > burden in the absence of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there > really is one out there already and I haven't found it yet, which is > entirely possible. You know of one? I'm experimenting with Xmail right now. I don't think it's going to work out. I'm fixing to switch to Fastecho and see if that will work for me. I'll keep you posted along with all the kludges that I have to use to get a system like this running with a combo of Fmail (for the hub capabilities) and Fastecho (for the JAM capability) > I assume there are a lot of smaller, well run systems like ours out > there scratching by on a shoestring and a prayer, folks who would love > nothing better than to give their users the same easy access they enjoy. > Whether they're a dish downlink or not. For our area, we are a big bbs with 2 lines and a gig of files. For some, that is NOTHING. It depends how easy you make your system to use :) See ya todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2365 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/24/94 11:39a Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> John Lundell babbled profusely in a message to All: is this normal in your replies?? Not realy tactfull but oh well... I can do that too I guess! ;-) Jason Fesler thought he knew it all in a message to ME: -> As to _where_ to get this information: Start watching news.answers and -> news.lists; they usually every couple of weeks get an updated list posted -> there, along with the moderators of the newsgorups. news.lists will be the -> easier place to find this information. what you don't realize is that we are NOT currently getting everything from the usenet - so unless someone has confidence that we will get exactly the same as one of the above mentioned lists then we need a different one - one that matches what PC is sending accross.. what good would it do to import a list as you mentioned above (which I got right away I might add) and have 7500 conferences set up on a BBS with only 1500 being used? I personally don't want that - so I solved the problem and used the list I got from the Internet and the PCUSENET.TXT and compared the two and made my own... I'm not waiting around for months until someone does it right... I did hear that there were PCBoard BBS's just importing PCUSENET.TXT into PCBuuCP or uuPCB - I hope they understand what a moderated newsgroup is and what will happen later on by not having the proper settings for them.... --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2366 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/25/94 5:08p Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Monday January 24 1994 01:23, Patty Pickett wrote to Boyd Goodin: PP> >> First off who is Dan? PP> PP> Dan is the same gentleman that we've spoken with on several occasions PP> now, Boyd, and the same gentleman who took our credit card information PP> over the phone, updated our registration code and advised us of the PP> weather related problems last weekend when we called to see if that was PP> what had occurred when the satellite feed was down for a bit. I have PP> slight hearing loss in the low range so it's possible that I misunderstood PP> his name if he has a low voice, but Remus understood his name to be Dan PP> also. Hi Patty! Hmmm.. hey maybe "Dan" was the Cleaning Lady ? Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Planet-Connetion mean never having to say "Where's my Mail (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEWAYNE COX Number: 2367 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 2:24p Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello all! > This is a test. Please respond This is a test responce. Dewayne --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: (1:2320/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 2368 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 9:59p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one -> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones -> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the -> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. Boyd, instead of updating the list, can we have a separate 'diff' list too, with just the new additions, something like Fido's nodediff? PCBUUCP creates the areas on my board by reading in a list I specify. I already fed it pcusenet.txt so if you just add the new ones to the list, it's going to be very time-consuming to go in and pick out the new ones and just feed it those. If you can create a separate list for those of using automatic conference generators, you'd make us very happy. -> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to -> check and see what kind of administative nightmare this will be. If it's going to be factored into the cost of the usenet feed, I'd say "Don't do it". Many of us already have our own uucp feeds and don't want to pay somebody else's way. We just want the newsgroups at the cheapest possible price. --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:2401/114) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2369 To: ALL! Date: 01/26/94 1:05a Subj: Usenet returns. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Who ever is returning usenet feeds via fido to here better stop it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TYE HAMMERLE Number: 2370 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/24/94 4:51p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jeff! 18 Jan 94 09:29, Jeff Olesen wrote to Wallace Sheldon: JO> Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are JO> satisfied with things the way they are. Big clumps of files JO> without .TIC's are a problem. But I'd rather have them than not, JO> and it's unfair to expect Boyd to sit down and describe these Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it right, not half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's not good enough a file to do that then maybe it doesn't warrant the effort of sending it. What's gonna happen when everybody at PC sends his favorite bunch of files down the pike? We're gonna be swamped. Tye --- FMail 0.96g+ * Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713 (1:202/1002) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2371 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 01/21/94 2:01p Subj: Re: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Tu 18-Jan-94 04:34, Rick Ashworth wrote: RA> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to RA> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems RA> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by RA> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart. Ugh. No kidding. This guy was kidding right?!?! :-) --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2372 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/24/94 11:28p Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 01-22-94 18:52, Marty Duplissey munched on a Tribble and said to all about test MD> Hello all! MD> This is a test. Please respond Finally downloaded the mail and got around to reading it now. (Time in header above.) Looks like you're getting out just fine. -=<-Katherine->=- ... Nobody notices when things go right. ~~~ Blue Wave/RA v2.05 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Tx * 512/576-3893 (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2373 To: ANONYMOUS Date: 01/26/94 1:34a Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >DP> Dupes are also another problem that many have been ignoring. >DP> Most of the current/newer echomail tossing program, ie.. >DP> GEcho, FastEcho, Squish, can't keep track of any more than >Agreed this is a big problem. I was using FMail (whose dupe checking is >totally inadequate) as a registered user but the volume coming off the dish >is so high that I switched to FastEcho. It supports more than the 512 areas >that Fmail did and will dupe check up to the last 131000 (yes, that is one >hundred thirty one thousand) messages. This ought to be enough, even with >the high traffic of fido. >Eric Eric, Your coming thru as "ANONYMOUS". I too have switched over to FastEcho for the same reason... But in the last 13 days I have processed over 213,000 messages.. So dupes can now start to sneak by if they're older than 13 days. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2374 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/25/94 6:14p Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH> Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to JH> sort through also. Well, I suppose it depends on your perspective. Personally, I'd be happy if every file that came down the pipe was for OS/2. ;> The Fernwood OS/2 filenet areas are one of the main reasons I got involved with Planet Connect in the first place. As we're finding out in this area, everyone is interested in this thing for different reasons. It makes for some excited and energetic sysops. --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2375 To: MARTY DUPLISSEY Date: 01/26/94 1:27a Subj: Re: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Marty Duplissey to all *** MD> Hello all! MD> MD> This is a test. Please respond MD> Marty MD> MD> --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 MD> * Origin: Marty's Mess OS/2 Longview,TX.903-643-7607 PVT MD> (1:398/1) Nope. Nothing coming through yet...keep trying. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2376 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/25/94 4:41a Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <23 Jan 94 22:52:01>, Jim St. John (1:231/285) writes: JS>-> So its going to be a different price for UseNet groups as well? JS> JS>Again, I got the impression when I talked to them that the details JS>hadn't been worked out but that usenet would probably be priced JS>separately from everything else, but no decision (at that time) as far JS>as pricing for customers that want it all. Hopefully Boyd or someone JS>actually there may have an update for us. The flier I got from PC indicates that UseNet Newsgroups will be priced separately. The schedule looks to be the same as the others, i.e., 30-40 dollars a month. Hope I get my equipment soon so I can get some of those transmissions before they start charging... Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2377 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 01/25/94 4:41a Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <23 Jan 94 18:33:25>, Tracy Mickley (1:288/6) writes: TM>Yes there were/have been some changes since that was written in mid TM>December. They are now selling video equipment if you want TV also was TM>really the biggest change. When researching, I called on this item for TM>verification in writing the article and I got the confused guy that TM>always says 'sir' at the end of every sentence. Polite enough but I've TM>learned to ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if he answers. PC's biggest TM>issue with the article was that they all had to go out and buy new TM>crayons for the installation doc's. My compliments on an excellent article, Tracy. It moved me to call and order a system. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2378 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/22/94 12:43p Subj: Notice! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Glenn, I didn't mean to come across as not wanting them, > it would only be nice to know what they are, particularly if Good point :-) I'm not sure what the solution might be other than trying to encourage everyone to use the Elist. Most of them are admin echos for file distribution networks, but that would not be obvious to someone new at the game. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2379 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/22/94 12:48p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run GMD, and NOT. You say you get a lot of grunged messages and they cause your system to "hiccup." Please explain. I have yet to have mail of any kind cause a problem on my system. So you delete what can't make it into your message base and leave the rest of us to worry about our own systems. This trend of supposed mail movers to become mail deleters is disturbing in the extreme. So quit encouraging them. > When I first started running it, I was simply AMAZED at some of > these messages (and how far out of spec they are). Now, I just And before you ran it, those messages passed into your system just fine, didn't they? Now are you deleting them? > in the backround, and since I am only looking after my own feed, Thank goodness for that! --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2380 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 1:54p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW> like Waffle to get full compatibility. Using Fredgate DW> (I can vouch for this one) or GIGO (sounds like it's a DW> good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize DW> your own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the I was looking at uugate for OS/2 but could not get it to toss the .bag type files. I did try gigo and it is impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2 version. At least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever get it into OS/2 then I will certainly register it. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Fido Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB (204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2381 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/24/94 9:31p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would just like to make a few comments about your service and setup - these are just suggestions - and to the positive I hope - Please read... I have been looking at the usenet news groups that you send across the bird. I received the pcusenet.txt and the text (cannot recall the name on how much you were going to charge for usenet connections). I proceeded to setup the usenet groups on my PC - a quick rexx script and away they went - all 15000 or was that 150000 messages - anyway to change them into something that I (my tosser) could understand it took me a week of searching to find something that would convert them to a format that could be tossed - GIGO wins the prize - it took one half an hour for GIGO to change them to packet format - then away I went tossing them - six hours later - vowala or however the French say it - anyway by the time they were up on the board to read they were ancient history. So - of course being a computer nerd for the past 30 years I called on the services of pktsort - ran it in the squish subdirectory once I moved the .pkt's over - this took half an hour then only 45 minutes to toss (now this is getting reasonable I said to myself. Anyway.... MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at this point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up additional funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in your best interest to do some of this front end processing yourself before the info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this was done then more people would consider paying for these services - right now I pay 50 dollars a year for all the newsgroups that I want, since I live close to a non - long distance calling site. Anyway just my opinion on value added service.... Replies most welcome.-> Dave --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2382 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 01/25/94 5:02p Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I think you are referring to the FM-GENEALOGIE echo. It That would be it Chris :-) > originates from Montreal and is gated into WGA (I believe). Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some point. If it is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users who are serious genealogical hobbiests. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2383 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/26/94 1:30a Subj: PSORT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jason, 21 Jan 94, 17:22, Jason Fesler wrote to Wallace Sheldon: WS>> Very happy to hear about PSRT coming with the ability read WS>> the AREAS.BBS where it's located. Keep up the good work. JF> No prob One more question? Is it necessary to write everything to one file? I could understand if it was able to read in all packets and then sort but this doesn't work for me. How about just sorting each packet? --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2384 To: DAN COOK Date: 01/24/94 7:52p Subj: Re: automated & standardized area requesting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 01:56, Dan Cook wrote: DC> BW> Trouble is, SEAL apparently won't recognize DC> BW> same-zone AKAs (aka 3615/51), and it's author DC> BW> responds to neither netmail, nor unsolicited cash. DC> DC> The author does respond to messages in the FidoNet TUB echo. I also forwarded that message to him in Netmail as its local to my system. --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2385 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 01/24/94 10:48p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 19:09, Dan Williamson wrote: DW> a good program but I've not tried it) you can utilize your DW> own FTN mailer as these packages just convert the newsgroup DW> to fidoecho and back as needed. That means you get Packets DW> that are tossed to new echos that correspond to your news. I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a number of other systems in the area. I'm just wondering if its actually a regular Cnews batched message bundle, or if its some funky format. --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,Z19,(613)521-0455,VFC,(613)521-5680 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2386 To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/25/94 8:38p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mauro Incrocci wrote in a message to Gary Hedberg: > If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of > Fido (because of > non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it. MI> Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I MI> will be running GMD soon so my Net will be clean. Later and MI> thanks for the feedback. GMD will detect basically whatever you tell it to. It is an incredible program. I use it here. The thing you need to be aware of is that what we call garbage on an IBM based system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can be read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete the message! Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2387 To: ALL Date: 01/26/94 12:40p Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC technical stuff, but out Net has purchased a system via our CRP. Our PC site has expressed a bit of dismay in that the PC software changed to exit at the end of the transmission "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the UPLD.LST against all of his inbound directories and exits with an errorlev based on the findings. Should anyone else find this handy, it is requestable here as UPCHK04B.ZIP - 12k. An explanation from the docs: UPCHECK ver .04á Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out how to use UPCHECK. This archive should contain the following files: UPCHECK.EXE - The excutable file UPCHECK.CFG - An Example configuration file UP.BAT - An example batchfile UPCHECK.DOC - This File UPCHECK.CFG - ASCII Textfile Must reside in the directory where UPCHECK.EXE was executed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords: @UPLIST - The FULL PATH and name of the list of FileNames. For Planet connect this would be \\UPLD.LST. ONLY ONE UPLIST KEYWORD MAY BE USED! i.e. @UPLIST D:\PC\UPLOAD.LST @INPATH - The name of an inbound directory. Many directories may be listed but each one must appear on a seperate line and be proceeded by the @INPATH keyword. @IGNORE - any acceptable DOS Filename (wildcards accepted). UPCHECK will ignore this file when checking the @UPLIST. i.e. if you do not care if QWK packets are received, and all QWK packets are named *.Q?? then the config line "@IGNORE *.Q??" would cause UPCHECK to continue whether the file existed or not. All Keywords must begin in Column 1. White space between the keyword and the parameter is ignored. Keywords and/or parameters are not case sensitive. Trailing backslashes for directories will be appended if not listed. All MISSING and IGNORED files are logged in UPCHECK.LOG for later inspection. Upon completion, UPCHECK exits with the following ERRORLEVELS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 - All files in @UPLIST found (or ignored) 1 - Error reading UPCHECK.CFG 2 - Error reading @UPLIST 3 - One or more files in @UPLIST were not located 4 - Error creating or writing to UPCHECK.LOG 5 - @UPLIST name in UPCHECK.CFG not found or bogus Regards All, Al Hays --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2388 To: ALL Date: 01/26/94 3:13p Subj: Skymail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --> Note: Forwarded (from: PCSITES) by Greg Shaffer using timEd. Original was from Greg Shaffer to All. Hello All! Those of you running Skymail to process the PC stuff will probably notice a slight bug that showed up today. If the UPLD.LST has blank lines in it then Skymail thinks some files were not recieved. Todays UPLD.LST had 12 blank lines at the bottom and I got caught with it. Simply edit the UPLD.LST with your favorite text editor and remove ALL the blank lines and then re-run your batchfile. I have have notified the author (Ed Ivey) and a fix will be forthcoming in a day or two. I will send it to Boyd for hatching out thru PC. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org ___ timEd-B9 - Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2389 To: MAURO INCROCCI Date: 01/26/94 9:53p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -* Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I will be -* running GMD soon so my Net will be clean. Later and thanks for the -* feedback. Don't have the faintest idea.... Gary --- * RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 2390 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/26/94 11:24p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <24 Jan 94 21:31:32>, Dave Sloan (1:348/105) writes: >MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at >this point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up >additional funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in your >best interest to do some of this front end processing yourself before the >info goes on the BIG BIRD. That would effectively kill us and a number of others who are thinking of signing up. We and others process Usenet using the standard c-news package which takes the .bag files quite easily, as do the usenet->fido processors. Every usenet->fido processor I've seen bastardizes the newsgroup names in one way or another and screws with the headers. It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to convert the converted stuff back to RFC-1036 format. Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK WINSLADE Number: 2391 To: BOYD, & WHO KNOWS Date: 01/26/94 11:29p Subj: Usenet cutover date ?? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could you give us an approximate date (or a general range, such as days, weeks, months) when the Usenet feed will be complete and consistent ?? We have to cut over the landline feeds, and I am hesitant to request new groups when our people want them, only to have to make another change just after. Any idea of a time frame would be appreciated. Thanks Good day JSW --- msged 1.99S ZTC * Origin: Buttafuoco Modeling Agency and Charm School (1:285/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2392 To: RICHARD REED Date: 01/20/94 6:09p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > This is a test... Hooked up the dish 2 weeks ago, and > ready to send mails back into PC... Let me know if > anyone is gettting this message out!! > Thank > Richard > --- QM v1.26/b > * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) Yeah, but your using the wrong node address, in your orgin line. From your PID, your true fido address is 275/81. Bill --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2393 To: TED SORRELLS Date: 01/20/94 9:49a Subj: all the hubbub.... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <19 Jan 94 20:47:45>, Ted Sorrells (1:130/67) writes: TS>Where may I FREQ info regarding Planet_Connect and a layman's TS>description of what it's all about. I'm interested in this high-tech TS>new twist on BBS communication. I found a file on the local BBSs here called PCINFO. You might scan your local BBSs for that file. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2394 To: BOB ROSS Date: 01/21/94 12:54p Subj: Re: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm quite sure I could do a dissertation on this subject Boyd. It's a > "fact of life" when you provide services to a group of individuals of our > food chain :-). Since this is the first time that I have any contack with dealing in a business I am learning fast! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2395 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 01/21/94 12:58p Subj: Re: Phone Number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, does PC have a 800 number or what is a voice number I can call to > talk to a sales person. > Thanks.. Sorry no 800 number. > P.S. I sent you net mail requesting the info packet your sales people > send out. > last week. Acknowledgment would be nice. :{) Well it is hard to handle things netmail. If you want an info pack you have a better chance getting one if you call 615-623-8300. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2396 To: ALL Date: 01/21/94 4:35p Subj: NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ============================================================================= * Forwarded by George Vandervort's Gerbils (1:382/8) * Area : NET382-SYSOP * From : George Vandervort, 1:382/8 (Friday January 21 1994 16:28) * To : All * Subj : NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD ============================================================================= Hello All! for those who ran NODEDIFF.A21 and can't find me in the Nodelist.. NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE - NOTICE This weeks NODEDIFF.A21 is BAD.. if you run this Nodediff.021 about 2/3rd of NET382 will be MISSING... HUB 1000,2000,3000,6000,7000,9000,12000 and all of there Downlinks are missing from the Nodelist.021 you must return to using NODELIST.014, untill this bug is ixed next week? Regards, George Vandervort - NEC Net382 ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb -+- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ + Origin: NET382 NEC Home of the 14.4k Gerbil-SAT... (FidoNet 1:382/8) ============================================================================= Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ROSINSKI Number: 2397 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/10/94 7:40p Subj: Apogee files, etc. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I've seen some messages here previously saying that they didn't like the Apogee, Software Creations, etc. files that came down. Thought I'd let you know that *I* did appreciate them coming in, and that I hope you continue to add extra files like this. Thanks, Rick --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480) * Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2398 To: JIM ST. JOHN Date: 01/21/94 7:51a Subj: question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! In a message to Bill Roper <01/19/94> Jim St. John wrote: JS> Bill I'm still confused as to exactly what GECHO does. Does it sort JS> the packets so that WIldmail can toss them faster? Gecho is a mail toss like WildMail/GoMail but is not for Wildcat so it has none of the Btrieve routines that slow down the Wildcat Tossers. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * Human Error - It's all ***YOUR*** Fault. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 2399 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/21/94 6:22p Subj: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > SA> Boy its about time! I thought you would never do it, been > SA> reading your posts in the TVRO echo for a long time now. Glad > SA> you are here, I'm an 'old timer' here, been hooked up for a > SA> couple months now. > :-) This is really GREAT! Heck, I've been hooking up > digital data > systems for quite a few years now for EDS, GM, HUGHES, etc., > and I never > realized the need for us SysOps until I got my own PC system! Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of messages/files etc that we are getting. There just aren't enough hours in the day to go through all this stuff! --- GEcho 1.02+/RA2.01+ * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST DS Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSEPH NOVAK Number: 2400 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/21/94 3:38p Subj: Re: OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Frank Scheel: > Does that mean that we can reasonably expect to see it work in an OS2 > environment? If so, has the company given you any idea of when this might > happen? > Later, > <_Frank_> BG> BG> depends on how willing IBM is towards working with Aztec BG> on a solution. BG> ...Boyd Are you saying that Aztec did finally contacted IBM and is trying to work on the solution? Anybody interested can call the OS/2 help line and ask for the specialist from the printer group. You will get breakdown on which company is trying to solve the problem with the parallel port software locks, and which ones do work. When I called, AZTEC was not one of them. Boyd, I know bussiness is good. But it's about time to do something about this- I have better use for an extra computer. Why don't you switch to another company? And sorry, Desqview just doesn't cut it for me. Joseph Novak * Origin: Future Domain, Forestburgh, NY (1:272/77) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2401 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/23/94 4:40p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No Tuesday January 18 1994 17:02, Joe Hayes wrote to Boyd Goodin: BG>> Well just got the list in and will be lokinng it over. I have one BG>> going overtoday called PCUSENET.TXT that contains a list of the ones BG>> we have going over now. It will start toi increase even more as the BG>> days go by.The PC software will receive them in the USENET directory. BG>> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to BG>> check andsee what kind of administative nightmare this will be. JH> JH> BG>> ...Boyd JH> JH> Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd? JH> I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will. JH> JH> -Joe JH> * SPITFIRE v3.4 JH> -+- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 JH> + Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 JH> (1:2290/70) Hello Joe! Here a tip that should work... in your ACONFIG.SKY line 11 NEWSGRP Change the Destination to NUL # net grp usr major minor topic type destination limit :rulebase, *, 1, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO/, * :rulebase, *, 2, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/, * :rulebase, *, 3, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/UPDATES/, * :rulebase, *, 4, _SKYID, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\PERSONAL/, * :rulebase, *, 5, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\PLANETC\FIDO/, * :rulebase, *, 6, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER/, * :rulebase, *, 7, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\TV/, * :rulebase, *, 8, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\CRS/, * :rulebase, *, 9, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\RIME/, * :rulebase, *, 10, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\ROSENET/, * :rulebase, *, 11, *, *, *, *, disk, NUL/, * Then remember to run MAKECFG.EXE to create a new CONFIG.SKY Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2402 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 01/23/94 7:01a Subj: Re: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: CC> the pinouts are in the back. You can't use a standard Thanks Ken, will pull out the manual and check. Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2403 To: GARY HEDBERG Date: 01/24/94 12:55p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If it will keep those pesky WWIVnet messages out of > Fido (because of > non-compliant headers etc) I'm all for it. Do you know if GMD does detect these? Does anyone else? I will be running GMD soon so my Net will be clean. Later and thanks for the feedback. Mauro =-=-= --- FMail 0.96â * Origin: (null) (1:353/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAURO INCROCCI Number: 2404 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/24/94 12:53p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I don't know how others feel about this issue, but > these grunged messages were > causing my mail tosser to hiccup, and generate NEW > (grunged) outgoing > messages. What tosser are you using? I'm glad to hear that GM's are a problem for systems. Makes my decision to run GMD that much easier. Before you, it was a mythical problem with no victims. > What I would *personally* like to see is every NEC run > GMD, and send these > complaint messages BACK to the nodes under it, but NOT > send complaint messages > elsewhere to the net. I will be running GMD once I notify all the systems that it may affect. Thanks for your feedback. Mauro =-=-= --- FMail 0.96â * Origin: (null) (1:353/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2405 To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/24/94 4:57p Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sunday January 23 1994 08:38, Gill Blue wrote to All: GB> Hello GB> I have a couple of questions. I am running Remote Access and Frontdoor GB> here with Planet Connect. How do I get the Rosenet and pcusnet and all of GB> the other stuff tossed. I dont have a problem with Fido. I am using Fmail GB> for a Toss. I know I need some other utilities to handle these other areas GB> but I dont know what.. Thanks for any help.. Gill Blue GB> -+- FMail 0.94 GB> + Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16 GB> (1:18/16) Hello Gill! Not shure about RoseNET, but PCUSENET, will probably need a UUCP<-> FIDO Mail rocessor like FREDGATE, WAFFLE or GIGO.. I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP (v0.114) available for freq or Download.. Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2406 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/24/94 8:02a Subj: Administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> just give all of the echos to your users and let them download -> fidonet.na, and figure out what they want. For the first week or so I was trying to move the filebone stuff into my already configured directories and it was going to become a real pain. I did just what you suggest. I set up a file area for each network that I'm posting (an SDN area, Crafting area, etc.) Then the filebone.na is copied to a bulletin and also available for downloading. The TIC processor I'm using adds a line to the description with the specific area name. The callers seem satisfied with this setup and the posting is 99.9% automated without having a real complicated setup.. Mike --- QScan v1.05b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe, IN * 219 453-4046 v32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2407 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 01/26/94 4:53p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Monday January 24 1994 16:51, Tye Hammerle wrote to Jeff Olesen: TH> Hello Jeff! TH> TH> 18 Jan 94 09:29, Jeff Olesen wrote to Wallace Sheldon: TH> JO>> Nope. YOU have a problem. The rest of us (as Boyd stated) are JO>> satisfied with things the way they are. Big clumps of files JO>> without .TIC's are a problem. But I'd rather have them than not, JO>> and it's unfair to expect Boyd to sit down and describe these TH> TH> Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it TH> right, not half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's TH> not good enough a file to do that then maybe it doesn't warrant the effort TH> of sending it. What's gonna happen when everybody at PC sends his TH> favorite bunch of files down the pike? We're gonna be swamped. Tye -+- TH> FMail 0.96g+ + Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713 TH> (1:202/1002) Hello Tye! I have a niffty utility called DIZ2BBS.ZIP that works great with most of the files that came in without *.TIC But If your using NodeDiff.021 then you wil have to wait till NodeDiff.028 to Poll me as Most of my Net got removed from the *.021 Nodelist by mistake, or you can Poll the Author at 1:3625/441 D I Z 2 B B S written by: Terry Blount File request Diz2bbs.zip from 1:3625/441 Purpose: Diz2bbs.exe was written to extract File_id.diz text from .Zip Archives and build a Files.bbs listing for a bbs. This is useful when descriptions are missing or .TIC files are lost or unavailable. Usage: Execute Diz2bbs.exe from the directory with the .zip files you don't have descriptions for. The work will be saved to a file named File.bbs to prevent overwriting any pre-existing FileS.bbs. The file size and date will be included. Limitations: If there is no File_id.diz in the archive the file name will be listed in the File.bbs text but the description field will be left blank. The format for the File.bbs is a single, 256 character, limitation. This means that the entire File_id.diz text will not be included... so the author is limited to describe his program in 250 characters. The description is truncated between words rather than simply cutting it in the middle of a word. Diz2bbs cannot identify bbs ads that have been inserted/ included with the File_id text... I suggest we kill anyone doing this. At this time Arj (and SDN) compression is not supported because I can't figure out how to get the name of the archive the the File_id.diz came out of to be included in the ascii text file the descriptions are built from. The file name is echoed to the screen with the following command: Arj s -y * *.diz HOWEVER the command " Arj s -y * *.diz >> work " does not save the name of the file to "Work" I had always thought that anything shown on the screen could be directed to a file name with ">" or ">>" Since the file name is not saved (in the work file) there is no way to figure out which archive the description belongs to. If you know of how to resolve this problem let me know. Registration: No donations/fees/begging is requested for the non- commercial use of this utility as long as you understand I am not responsible. If you intend to use this program for commercial gain please notify me first and consider some form of compensation. Enjoy! Terry Blount Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2408 To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/26/94 9:02p Subj: TEST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Illegal logon test. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp,Al (205)565.3394 1:18/16 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2409 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 01/26/94 9:47p Subj: Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Well, got the dish up and running.. and the software also.. I have alot of ?'s for you 1. Is there a way to change the amount of errors a file can receive before the software trashcans it. 2. Is there a list of Usenet groups you can send out 3. When are the lastest files and mail sent out 4. When a file receives just one error.. why does it trashcan it When I think of more... you will here them :-) < I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP (v0.114) GV> available for freq or Download.. What is GIGO? Does it do things like what FredMail does? If it does, you can put WaterGate in the same category... John --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUONG Number: 2411 To: LEE BONNIFIELD Date: 01/26/94 6:16p Subj: Satellite Dish/Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of (26 Jan 94 06:30:30), Lee Bonnifield wrote to John Luong: LB> Gee I guess you still have not seen a simple answer here. Planet LB> Connect broadcasts a 19,200 bit per second datastream from two LB> satellites. In the C-band (like the typical big backyard dishes LB> that receive lots of satellite TV channels) Planet Connect uses the LB> satellite Galaxy 3, which is at 93.5 degrees West Longitude. In the LB> Ku-band (using smaller dishes, typically 3 foot diameter) Planet LB> Connect is transmitted on satellite Galaxy 4, at 99 degrees. Yeah, I got a text file (SAT-1.FAQ) ... helped me figure out what OTHER satellites they use. (for instance, I got info. about SBS-6). LB> The same company also transmits a 9600 bit per second datastream LB> called Skylink, designed for people who like to CALL computer LB> bulletin boards. (Planet Connect is designed for people who like to LB> OPERATE BBSs.) Skylink is on two C-band satellites - Galaxy 3, and Galaxy LB> 1 (at 133 degrees.) Thank you for the information. It is will probably be a big part of my paper explaining the satellites themselves. Do you happen to know what kind of satellites they are (series, weight, # of transponders)...? I hear SBS-6 is a HS-393 and Galaxy VI is a HS-396. John --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The FuNny FaRM, Lake Oswego, Oregon * 503/697-0845 (1:105/250) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 2412 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 8:18a Subj: Test messages. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, can you assign the responsibility of ONE person to reply to test messages. There are usually 5 different people that respond to any individual test message. Tell them not to reply to test messages. I enjoy reading messages but not when every fifth one is a test or reply to a test. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/104) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WARD Number: 2413 To: BOYD Date: 01/27/94 7:57a Subj: Line Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! The last couple of days the UPLD.LST has contained extra line feeds about 12 to 13 of them they are being picked up by SKYMAIL as missing files thusly not allowing it to drop with proper error level to move files, I have been going in with a word processor and removing them is there a fix for this?? Jim Ward --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: FOG Maximus 103/0 (1:103/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2414 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/25/94 9:07a Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Whitehouse babbled profusely in a message to Todd Lyons: BW> We run RA, too but haven't the on-line traffic or BW> diskspace to justify the whole load. A hudson messagebase's BW> 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence of a JAM BW> tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out BW> there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely BW> possible. You know of one? PS: Registered GECHO folks now have JAM. Granted, it's not a public release, it's like the early versions of gecho were before 1.00 - buy first, then get to play. I'd suggest finding someone who's actually using JAM, with Gecho, and see how they like it. (We only use it as a pass-through engine, because of it's speed, then use Squish for the message bases). Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2415 To: JOHN PAUL Date: 01/25/94 9:09a Subj: PSRT request? Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No John Paul babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: JP> Would it be possible next time you're doing anything JP> with PSRT to put a command line switch or some such in to JP> modify its display method so that it would just display on JP> whatever screen line it comes up instead of as explicit JP> screen positioning? Sorry, takes too much recoding for one of those quick-n-dirty programs. Besides, even if it did start out where it was on the screen to begin with, it scrolls too much information that your original screen won't be there, within the first couple of seconds of use - at least, that's what I get over here. --- timEd-A12c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2416 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/25/94 3:57p Subj: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Vandervort babbled profusely in a message to Gill Blue: GV> Not shure about RoseNET, but PCUSENET, will probably need a GV> UUCP<-> FIDO Mail rocessor like FREDGATE, WAFFLE or GIGO.. GV> I have FRED19q.ZIP (FredGate Beta 1.9Q) and GIGO0114.ZIP GV> (v0.114) available for freq or Download.. Some notes about GIGO: That's version 0.97, _dated_ 01-14-94. GIGO also requires a 386sx or better to run, no exceptions GIGO is _always_ available at 1:203/7707, magic name "GIGO", and is also available via internet anonymous ftp, at ftp.netcom.com:/pub/jfesler Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12c * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2417 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/27/94 4:30p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH>GMD will detect basically whatever you tell it to. It is an RH>incredible program. I use it here. The thing you need to be RH>aware of is that what we call garbage on an IBM based RH>system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the RH>"High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the RH>mail can be read for them by their equiptment. But guess RH>what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete RH>the message! RH> Cheers, RH> Robert Well robert i hope that you dont go blind i have been working with some of that equment and boy i give them more credit than most of my users. the equment that is need for them is twice in cost than your system and i feel that your tosser dosent choke on thier messages. re 10 users here with many diffent types of blind equment and both of my mail tossers havn't had any problem. harold --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2418 To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 12:03a Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate this please add 701=ON in the INI file. This will allow you to exit just after the fidonet mail and other networks are finished (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files start to come. If you look at the UPLD.LST file you will notice that the PCUSENET.* files are at the end of the list. This is the exact way that they will come over the satellite. Now I dont know how some of the utilities like Skymail and PCUTIL will handle this but it is about the best I can do on short notice to seperate the regular stuff and the usenet stuff. Once I can find a little bit more time I will work on seperating everything and have different errorlevels for each network and the file areas. Also took care of the extra lines in the UPLD.LST file. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2419 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/27/94 9:23a Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DS> will cough up additional funds each month for usenet DS> messages - would it not be in your best interest to do DS> some of this front end processing yourself before the DS> info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this was At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag format would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processed by those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majority not all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the bag format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2420 To: JEFF BOWMAN Date: 01/27/94 11:06a Subj: Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Bowman wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin: JB> Hello Boyd! JB> Well, got the dish up and running.. and the software also.. JB> I have alot of ?'s for you JB> 1. Is there a way to change the amount of errors a file can JB> receive before the software trashcans it. Nope..... JB> 2. Is there a list of Usenet groups you can send out I believe one comes in already.......check your directory for the usenet stuff. JB> 3. When are the lastest files and mail sent out They usually start a new day between 7 and 8 am JB> 4. When a file receives just one error.. why does it JB> trashcan it Why would you want a corrupt file?.......Understand, there is NO error correction with PC......its strictly a one way street. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2421 To: AL HAYS Date: 01/27/94 11:09a Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Al Hays wrote in a message to All: AH> I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC AH> technical stuff, but out Net has purchased a system via our AH> CRP. Our PC site has expressed a bit of dismay in that the AH> PC software changed to exit at the end of the transmission AH> "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or AH> error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the I dont think anything 'changed' Al......I have been on PC since October of 93 and it has always exited at the end of a cycle......It was upto us to take the appropriate action at that point. I had to think about it after getting your netmail :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2422 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 9:39a Subj: Internet address Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! I sent a few messages to you by Fido but no returns as yet (I think some got lost due to the abort retry fail that the software sometimes gives on the LAN when writing upld.lst). I have several questions: 1. What's your Internet address? 2. Can you retransmit PCUSENET.TXT file ( I lost it!!) 3. Approximately what time of the day will you be transmitting USENET grps and when will it become regular? Keep up the good work. Art * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2423 To: AL HAYS Date: 01/27/94 9:39p Subj: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Al! In a message to All <01/26/94> Al Hays wrote: AH> I really don't know squat about the in's and out's of the PC technical st AH> but out Net has purchased a system via our CRP. Our PC site has expresse AH> bit of dismay in that the PC software changed to exit at the end of the AH> transmission "cycle" regardless whether all files are received and/or AH> error-free. I have written a small utility that checks the UPLD.LST again AH> of his inbound directories and exits with an errorlev based on the findin AH> Should anyone else find this handy, it is requestable here as UPCHK04B.ZI AH> 12k. Thanks Al, we need stuff like this to sort it all out, I am going to give it a try. Art * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2424 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/27/94 8:36a Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some > point. If it is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users > who are serious genealogical hobbiests. Hi Glenn, every now and then I see WGAMAIL.ZIP come in via PC. However, I'm not sure yet how often and how reliable the pre-PC feed is. (440:121/99?) We'll have to wait till Boyd lets us know the official story. I at one point converted over, but then nothing came in for a while. Now it's here again. Boyd, what's the scoop on WGA? Is it going to come in daily, weekly,,, or what? WGA is my last landline network...I want to dump it asap! Regards PS. Glenn, how's the cold front out your way? We had -33 C this morning... brrrrrrrrrrr --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2425 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/27/94 5:26p Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a niffty utility called DIZ2BBS.ZIP that works great with > most of the files that came in without *.TIC > But If your using NodeDiff.021 then you wil have to wait till > NodeDiff.028 > to Poll me as Most of my Net got removed from the *.021 Nodelist by > mistake, > or you can Poll the Author at 1:3625/441 I got my copy from Terry as well. It's available here, tho I haven't figgered the way to make it work with TBBS's FILES.DIR format yet... Available 23hrs/day (except ZMH) DIZ2BBS.ZIP 10801bytes --==jb==-- --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MCCONNELL Number: 2426 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/27/94 1:59p Subj: PC SYSTEM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HI BOYD DO YOU KNOW IF PLANET CONNECT CAN BE PICKED UP IN KOREA IM IN THE ARMY AND AM GOING THERE IN JULY IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD TAKE A SAT DISH OVER THERE WITH ME IF I CAN GET IT OVER THERE PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND COULD YOU SEND ME INFO TO PO BOX 10187 CLARKSVILLE TN 37042 THANKS --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HARRY MOYLES Number: 2427 To: TBBS SYSOPS.. Date: 01/28/94 6:39p Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All.. I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems trying to send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 3615/50 it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will send the mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ? Thanks harry.. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Evans BBS,6 gigs,16 cdroms,1 Satellite Dish,616-754-6180 (1:228/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 2428 To: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Date: 01/27/94 5:43p Subj: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > SA> Yep, the only problem so far is the tremendous amount of > SA> messages/files etc that we are getting. There just aren't > SA> enough hours in the day to go through all this stuff! > Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to sort through > also. > --jah Yep, Aren't they great! The only reason I have this service. Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2429 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/28/94 9:21a Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RH> of the "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can RH> read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's go RH> choke my tosser, I delete the message! They're stupid screen readers, then, because I don't use any high-bit triggers. Those blind people that have a problem with this should get a program that reads the screen, not asks the programs to provide nice high-bit ascii codes. Those high-bit ascii codes get in my way when I'm reading. -=*Jeremy*=- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2430 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/28/94 9:26a Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> systems in the area. I'm just wondering if its actually a regular Cnews JM> batched message bundle, or if its some funky format. Those messages aren't compressed at all. Standard Unix compression uses compress16 which cuts down on the size of the bundles. I.E. The bundles that PC gets are about 500K, zipped, where as the bundles I get with the same groups are around 2 to 300K and they are in *.d and *.x format. I am almost positive that zipping them would decrease the size as well. -=*Jeremy*=- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2431 To: JOHN LUONG Date: 01/28/94 9:32a Subj: Re: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> What is GIGO? Does it do things like what FredMail does? If it does, you JL> put WaterGate in the same category... Gigo is similar to Fredmail, but it doesn't have a roblem with the mapping statement alt.* rec.*, etc. Fredmail forces you to add each group as it comes in. My experience shows that many people cross-post their messages into other areas that you do not get, but they get sent to you. Pc has been doing the same thing. Previously, the messages were dumped and a big dump file was created. I switched to Imail for processing of Usenet stuff; since it auto-adds areas in *.msg format. I have not personally used Watergate, and am happy with Gigo. The author, Jason Fesler is helpful and posts regularly in the UFGATE echo. Hope this helps... Oh and one last thing... I know that Gigo supports the *.bag format, but I don't know if Watergate does and I know you only have to specify the bags verb in the config file and all you need do is type gateway and press return. 5 minutes later, you have lots of lovely *.pkt files to play with. --Jeremy-- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2432 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/28/94 9:09a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tom Haavisto wrote in a message to Glenn Caleval: TH> happened to it. A few messages are leaving the originating TH> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are TH> NOT permitted - I have seen quite a few messages where this GMD works on netmail right? I don't think the same hibit ascii char ban exists in netmail. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 2433 To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 1:52p Subj: Lost PC messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! I know I had received some mail in this echo not too long ago but before I had a chance to reply I had some massive corruption involving the Table FATS in quite a few of my message areas including this one so they were lost. Anyway, to those of you who had written, my humble apologies.. ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * ... After dinner, he said, "Your modem or mine?" --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) 661-8945 (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 2434 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 1:58p Subj: ISNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd! One of my users inquired about the SISNET (Scouts) Net and I looked into it and was told the net had been in touch with PC to get it put on the bird. Will it be on in the near future? Thanks... ...Di * WCE 1.5/2184 * ... Modems.....reach out and BYTE someone! --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) 661-8945 (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2435 To: ALL Date: 01/28/94 6:53p Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Pursuant to the "blank" line problem that was discovered in UPLD.LST, a fixed version of UPCHECK is immediately available as UPCHK05B.ZIP, 13k, MagicName: UPCHECK. UPCHECK ver .05á Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out how to use UPCHECK. UPCHECK.CFG - ASCII Textfile Must reside in the directory where UPCHECK.EXE was executed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords: @UPLIST - The FULL PATH and name of the list of FileNames. For Planet connect this would be \\UPLD.LST. ONLY ONE UPLIST KEYWORD MAY BE USED! i.e. @UPLIST D:\PC\UPLOAD.LST @INPATH - The name of an inbound directory. Many directories may be listed but each one must appear on a seperate line and be proceeded by the @INPATH keyword. @IGNORE - an acceptable DOS Filename (wildcards accepted). UPCHECK will ignore this file when checking the @UPLIST. i.e. if you do not care if QWK packets are received, and all QWK packets are named *.Q?? then the config line "@IGNORE *.Q??" would cause UPCHECK to continue whether the file existed or not. All Keywords must begin in Column 1. White space between the keyword and the parameter is ignored. Keywords and/or parameters are not case sensitive. Trailing backslashes for directories will be appended if not listed. All MISSING and IGNORED files are logged in UPCHECK.LOG for later inspection. Upon completion, UPCHECK exits with the following ERRORLEVELS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 - All files in @UPLIST found (or ignored) 1 - Error reading UPCHECK.CFG 2 - Error reading @UPLIST 3 - One or more files in @UPLIST were not located 4 - Error creating or writing to UPCHECK.LOG 5 - @UPLIST name in UPCHECK.CFG not found or bogus Regards, Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2436 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/29/94 12:17a Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! In a message to Dave Sloan <01/27/94> Dave Miller wrote: DM> DS> will cough up additional funds each month for usenet DM> DS> messages - would it not be in your best interest to do DM> DS> some of this front end processing yourself before the DM> DS> info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this was DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag forma DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processe DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majori DM> all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the ba DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry DM> to switch over to a less expensive feed. DM> Absolutely correct, the last thing I want is the bag files changed!!! Hands of our BAG files!!!! * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2437 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/28/94 8:40a Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Mauro Incrocci: RH> system, may not be the case to another platform. Some of the RH> "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the RH> mail can be read for them by their equiptment. But guess RH> what? I don't care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete RH> the message! How do you figure? Being legally blind, I've *never* seen a speech package that requires high-ASCII to be in the text...In fact, most of them can't handle high-ASCII, and simply read an ASCII 254 (the little box a lot of QWK readers use around their taglines) as "Character two fifty four"...There are only two kinds of messages that would contain high ASCII, those that are grunged, and those that are not in English, which may as well be grunged...Unless of course some people are into using those cute little boxes and bars in a FidoNet area where it doesn't belong... Later... --- * Origin: Sean's Pointless Point (1:124/7026.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2438 To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 01/28/94 11:45p Subj: Re: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ME> If you select your printer object with the right mouse button, goto the ME> ports page in the Setup notebook, and select the port that the lock is on ME> with the right mouse button, You can open another setup for that port. ME> There will be another setup notebook. You will notice a share access ME> option. Turn it ON. You should work now. Michael, I take it you've been able to get PTCCMAIN to work in a DOS box on OS/2? If so, would you share the DOS settings you used, Comm drivers you had installed at the time, the seriel port you were using, and what, if any, changes you might have made in PTCCMAIN.INI? I have the Share option turned on, and still can't get PTCCMAIN to run with or without the Dongle. There are a LOT of people that would be VERY interested in how you did it! Thanks, Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2439 To: TOM HAAVISTO Date: 01/27/94 3:24p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > solid as I think it should be. By hiccup, I mean that hosed > mail comes in, and this thing turns arounds and ships it back out > (with my origin line), and a stripped seen-by line. And yes - I > have contacted the author about this. Until he fixes, you should use other software. You should not force the inadequacies of your software on others by deleting mail to compensate for poor programming. > 95% of the mail is fine. Some mail is nowhere even close to > what the spec calls for. You do know what a spec is - that > is what everyone is *supposed* to follow. Perhaps you should *carefully* read the actual specs as they have been promulgated by the FTSC. The vast majority of stuff that GMD can be configured to delete is totally *within* spec and no one has any business deleting it. In fact, I think there are only two configurable options in GMD that actually have anything to do with the formal specs at all. For example, the spec does NOT prohibit high order bits in echomail, but explicitly states that software should NOT delete such msgs. The specs also *explictly* provide that software should be able to cope with unlimited msg size. Yet the most common uses of GMD are to delete legitimate, in-spec msgs because they contain high order chars or are exceed some arbitrary length to suit some brain dead mail program. > When a message has multiple origin lines, this tells > me that something bad happened to it. Have you ever wondered how what you think are "grunged" msgs managed to make it through the many systems enroute to your system without breaking anyone elses software? Obviously all the mail software that handled it before it got to you, managed to pass it on gracefully or it would never have arrived on your system. > system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT > permitted - Excuse me, but that is bullshit. Please read the specs you are busily trying to wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite explicitly. > Please remember that FidoNet has many types of machines (and > even more types of software) attached to it. PC graphics don't So the software used on the *end* node should be capable of modifying, or deleting the msgs that offend that given end node. Those who are supposed to MOVE the MAIL have no business deleting that which they have agreed to move. Only where the mail path terminates, ie. the end-node, should such software be used. > Atari or a Commodore 64. The spec (when followed) should mean Please do read those specs you are going on about. > I could go on, but I hope you get the picture here. I realize > that you seem to think that anything that you ship out from your > system is fair game, regardless of how damaged it may be (and can > cause problems for other software as a result). Sorry - I don't > feel this way - if I AM shipping out mail that is malformed, I WANT > to know about it, so I can get the problem fixed. Few things. First to my knowledge no msg has ever left my system that fits even the broadest "grunged" defintion. I know for a fact that msgs have not been *delivered* to my system because some pathological upstream of me was using GMD. So I am not, as you sarcastically write, concerned about what leaves here, but what people like you are preventing from arriving. You obviously think you can volunteer to move mail and then arbitrarily decide what you will delete based on mythology of what the specs actually are. And, you clearly do not know what the real specs are or you would not be misrepresenting them here. Secondly you seem to feel that if a msg *might* affect your system negatively, you have the right to prevent others from receiving it even though their systems are fully capable of handling the msg gracefully. Finally, if you are deleting msgs, the sysop who generated the msg will NOT know that he has "created a problem." GMD is not capable of informing the originator of a msg of the fact that the msg has been deleted. One version of GMD notifies the immediate uplink, but that is rarely the originator of the msg and mail hubs have pretty much unanimously announced they consider such notifications to be annoying since they are *not* the originators. So NONE of what you say you want to accomplish is accomplished by GMD except the possibility of saving you from some minor personal inconveniences. In such a situation, you should seek a volunteer replacement capable of runnning software that is not so inconvenient. It is getting ludicrous, to the point that an REC recently posted grunged NETMAIL generated by Planet Connect (you know those occasional glips we've been getting) as examples of the utility of GMD. Except, GMD is intended to operate on echomail, not netmail and that dealing with those examples is trivial without the heavy hand of GMD. This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication. > tool for the job (and YES - if allowed to do so, it CAN violate > the policy that I am doing my meager best to try and uphold). If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2440 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 11:10a Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No hello boyd.. RH>-> At Present we are not set up to allow return on the Usenet. I have to >-> check and see what kind of administative nightmare this will be. it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet $10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only 1 phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you.. btw how are we coming on getting circuitnet up on the bird? jery --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY SCROGGIN Number: 2441 To: STEVE NEWMAN Date: 01/29/94 11:11a Subj: hi steve Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SN> Just a test to see if we've got this all correct. For others in this > echo I'd like to say...Hey, sorry for the test but how do you think > the Wright Brothers did it? Thanks! fancy seeing you here...welcome.. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: BAYOU BBS West Monroe, LA 318-397-1822 16.8 DS (1:136/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2442 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/27/94 6:19p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James McOrmond wrote: JM> In a message of Su 23-Jan-94 19:09, Dan Williamson wrote: JM> I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a JM> number of other systems in the area. I'm just wondering if JM> its actually a regular Cnews batched message bundle, or if JM> its some funky format. Yup. That's what it is with a munged file name. The *.BAG files that are recovered from uncompressing the incoming packages are compressed batches without the execution instruction file (*.D with no *.X associated). --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 2443 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 4:58a Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Friday January 28 1994 00:03, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: BG> All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate this BG> please add 701=ON in the INI file. This will allow you to exit BG> just after the fidonet mail and other networks are finished BG> (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files start to BG> come. BG> ................ Also took care BG> of the extra lines in the UPLD.LST file. Thanks for all of your efforts to improve the system ! I know it is very time consuming(plus answering all of our dumb phone calls). I understand that you (and the rest of the PC folk) must make slow deliberate changes to the system because it effects us ALL. Whats good for me might cause great trouble for the next guy. It is imposible to satisfy everyone. Hang in there. Your doing a fine job. Again thanks.. (Ma Bell must hate you guys however) Ric --- GoldED 2.42.G1121+ * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLEN DAVIS Number: 2444 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 11:14a Subj: Session Password Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I started getting a message from your front end re: Need a session level password, but I have no idea what that password should be. Can you help? -Glen --- timEd-B10 * Origin: |=[Bloom Co. Hospital>=--- |[GRapids MI] (616)361-8345 (1:228/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2445 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 10:23a Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the satellite? --- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2446 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/28/94 10:24a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please send me a non-corrupted registered version of TVAGENT. I put the one you sent me back in box with the defective satellite receiver I sent back to you. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEAN WEST Number: 2447 To: JEFF OLESEN Date: 01/28/94 4:03p Subj: Re: PC Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Monday January 17 1994 10:13, Jeff Olesen wrote to Don Waybright: Jeff.... JO> JO> Perhaps it's not available in the U.S. I am in Canada, so I bought from JO> the Canadian price list. Perhaps Boyd could answer your question better. As I to am looking into setting up a Sat downlink, where can someone get a copy of the Canadian price list. Would rather buy Canadian to avoid all the hassle of getting it over the border. C'ya Dean --- GoldED 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Great Bellowing Moose.... HST/DS Terbo (FidoNet 1:353/719) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2448 To: ALL Date: 01/29/94 9:00p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Help ! Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2449 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/28/94 11:55p Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native bag format DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format can be directly processed DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the mail. Also the majority DM> not all but the majority of systems hooked to the internet already use the DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed. I Disagree! The news batches I get from the Unix system locally are compressed with comp16 and I have already stated that compression takes out some of the excess space and time which is something we all are concerned with. Even at 19.2K, things will move along slowly. What kind of through-put do you get with the PC software? --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2450 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/29/94 11:09a Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I dont think anything 'changed' Al... To tell you the truth, I really don't have the slightest idea. Bill simply described what he needed and I poked out some code . BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL? Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2451 To: ART MACK Date: 01/29/94 11:12a Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks Al, we need stuff like this to sort it all out, I am going to > give it a try. Cool. Let me know how it works, what else you need it to do, etc. Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2452 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 01/29/94 8:59p Subj: Is There Any Way... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Guy VanDell Was Heard Saying This To Don Kulha: GV>Although the people in fidonet seem to have a lot more time GV>to whine and complain than the usenet people do. And I am sure we all would miss you if you were to leave fidoland......? These are senseless comments, I see why you are unhappy. Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2453 To: JOE HAYES Date: 01/29/94 9:40p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No <=> Joe Hayes Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin: JH>Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd? JH>I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will. Heh heh, you and alotta other people, wait till Boyd charges you extra money for stuff you are sending to the bit bucket! In your ptccmain.ini file change the 700=on to 701=on, then you will exit right when the Overkill of USEnet Newsgroups start to move down towards you. I was sending this to >Null along with those ever popular QWK packets before they gave me this option, now I am waiting for the option of Only paying for what I signed for. Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2454 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 01/29/94 10:07p Subj: Support Problems Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PP>> Show me a company that is just starting and hiring new people that are PP>as PP>> organized as you want it to be. Everything takes time. Heck a year ago I PP>had PP>> no idea about how this all works. But At least I am trying to figure it PP>all PP>> out. Well Boyd, if that company doesn't have a monopoly on the market, then their customers will RUN not walk away. You are only as good as the people who surround you, in a "normal" new business situation, you would be an empty building. PP>> I will not lie. It will get better but from your comments, not fast PP>> enough for you. Thats not a good way to talk to customers, you need a few people skills here Boyd. Tell'm Patty!! Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2455 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 10:20p Subj: Usenet returns. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Boyd Goodin Was Heard Saying This To All!: BG> Who ever is returning usenet feeds via fido to here better BG>stop it. I am sending mine straight to >Null, could it be me? Hope not, I will check :+) Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2456 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/29/94 10:24p Subj: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM>In a message of Tu 18-Jan-94 04:34, Rick Ashworth wrote: JM> RA> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to JM> RA> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems JM> RA> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by JM> RA> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart. Heya, I didn't agree to anything of the sort, with him or PC, once I get files through PC, they are mine for whatever I want, I only agreed about the weather and TV stuff, look at the contract. This isn't to you James, just used your masseage. Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2457 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/29/94 10:44p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Jason Fesler Was Heard Saying This To Bill Whitehouse: JF>PS: Registered GECHO folks now have JAM. Granted, it's not JF>a public release, it's like the early versions of gecho were JF>before 1.00 - buy first, then get to play. I'd suggest JF>finding someone who's actually using JAM, with Gecho, and see JF>how they like it. (We only use it as a pass-through engine, JF>because of it's speed, then use Squish for the message JF>bases). 20 messages per second here, it's known to be a good piece of software, so it's not like you are in the dark about weather it will function as well as the other versions have, that's why Gerard took so long to write it, it's the best. Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2458 To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/29/94 10:59p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TO: bryan bb>reliably, they'll eventually have alot more usenet bb>subscribers than bb>Fidonet subscribers. bb>News/Email (1:282/31) Oh Nooo, It's gonna be a USEnet attack!! Stop the gonna be stuff, and let Boyd answer his question, geeeezz! Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2459 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 12:03a Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Harry! In a message to Tbbs Sysops.. <01/28/94> Harry Moyles wrote: HM> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems tryi HM> send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 361 HM> it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will sen HM> mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ? I had the same problem with D'Bridge. I just went to an external Mail processor (Gecho) and removed the AKA from DB and all the problems went away. The problem is in that 51 can not be in your Mailers AKA's only in your Tosser. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * This tag line is "Bulletin Broad-proof"! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2460 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/29/94 2:33a Subj: Ad (author Direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James! Friday January 21 1994 14:01, James McOrmond wrote to Rick Ashworth: RA>> Richard Holler of the AD- file areas has restrictions to RA>> PCSITES only for any of those file areas. Since many systems RA>> run MO hubs, that means the AD- areas are never seen by RA>> anyone but the PCSITE owner. Real smart. JM> Ugh. No kidding. This guy was kidding right?!?! :-) I sent him netmail a couple of weeks ago, but have not received a reply. He's an ASP author, too, and I wonder if the support for his prg is as good as his support for questions about the AD- echoes? Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2461 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 01/29/94 4:46p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT >> permitted - >Excuse me, but that is bulls**t. Please read the specs you are busily >trying to wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite >explicitly. Glenn, You are quite right about the specs, but usually "policy" dictates otherwise.. For example, Fidonet Echomail Policy prohibits High-ASCII in Headers, Origin Lines, Taglines, but does permit them in the body of the text if moderator/rules permit it. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2462 To: JOHN JOHNSON Date: 01/26/94 7:11a Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No According to John Johnson (1:291/11) on Mon, Jan 24 at 22:22: >> tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out >> there already and I haven't found it yet, which is entirely >> possible. You know of one? JJ>The JAM'able GEcho has been out for a short while now... JJ>Works GREAT! Thanks, arrived tonight. Looks absolutely lovely. JJ>-!- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN JJ> ! Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ^^^^ Shoot, you didn't have to go far for it, didja? ;-) --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WHITEHOUSE Number: 2463 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/30/94 1:49a Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No According to Jason Fesler (1:203/7707.1) on Tue, Jan 25 at 09:07: BW>> A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence BW>> of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out JF>I'd suggest finding someone who's actually JF>using JAM, with Gecho, and see how they like it. Had it running here four or five days now and have mixed feelings about it. JF>(We only use it as a JF>pass-through engine, because of it's speed, then use Squish for the JF>message bases). You're absolutely right. We tried Squish when our dish first went up, gave QM a shot, then settled on Gecho for the same reason, its speed. On the other hand, GEcho/386 1.02+ seems to require an ALL-MESSAGE-BASE crawl before it'll scan out new mail, seeing and deleting ECHOMAIL.JAM (the equivelant of echotoss.log) without acting on it. I dunno, the JAM format represents some obvious improvements but speed isn't one of them. A JAM-base mail check is slow, sure death. Even RBBS - the grand old wheeze benchmark - is faster than this. Software evolves, patience is in short supply. Hope these remarks don't offend anyone. regards, Bill --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2464 To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 01/27/94 6:41p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on That would effectively kill us and a number of others who are JW> thinking of signing up. We and others process Usenet using JW> the standard c-news package which takes the .bag files quite JW> easily, as do the usenet->fido processors. Every usenet->fido JW> processor I've seen bastardizes the newsgroup names in one JW> way or another and screws with the headers. JW> JW> It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to convert JW> the converted stuff back to RFC-1036 format. Well I guess then the least I can hope for is that the groups are sorted. Thanks for the input. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2465 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/29/94 2:03a Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to All: BG> BG> All I have added a new errorlevel of 101. To activate BG> this please add 701=ON in the INI file. This will allow you BG> to exit just after the fidonet mail and other networks are BG> finished (including fileareas) and before the PCUSENET files Great! BG> satellite. Now I dont know how some of the utilities like BG> Skymail and PCUTIL will handle this but it is about the best BG> I can do on short notice to seperate the regular stuff and BG> the usenet stuff. Once I can find a little bit more time I Thats more than sufficient.....I dont know about PCUTIL but that will work FINE with SkyMail since you can tell it to ignore the PCUSENET files. BG> Also took care of the extra lines in the UPLD.LST file. THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore them anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened before. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF MURPHY Number: 2466 To: DON KULHA Date: 01/29/94 12:01a Subj: Sunny Daze... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > to ask my wife if thats what it was. When I order PC I'll > have to consider celibacy though.... Well, we all have our priorities.... :-) But like was said in another message, hope you don't go blind. Manually speaking. Of course, they seemed to mean it differently. > Can you tell I've been doing this for too long? Nine > years as of 1/1... Whoa, flashback. For a minute there, I thought you meant Fidoing as opposed to having sex. I got involved in Fidonet in 1987. My wife had cut me off for three years at that point, and I was getting tired of biting the interior of my mouth. Hmm. I guess you *did* mean that. :-) Nice chatting. I'm out of line here (generally, actually), so will go back to the neighborly loneliness we call echomail. Best wishes. --- * Origin: Mother Murphy's Point Portland, OR (1:105/222.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2467 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/25/94 8:15p Subj: NewsGroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, today is Jan 25 and the hasn't been any newsgroups since the 23rd. Is there a problem? Can we expect to get the newsgroups on a daily basis. I understand that you are just setting things up and just want to know if this is the reason. Keep up the good work! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2468 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 12:28p Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Thomas! Friday January 28 1994 10:23, Thomas Beal wrote to Boyd Goodin: TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner TB> VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the TB> satellite? I got them via the PC Satellite feed... Look in these file areas... 1. UTILNET2 SCANV111.ZIP CLEAN111.ZIP VSH111.ZIP 2. WIN_UTIL WSCAN111.ZIP 3. FWUTIL <=== OS/2 OSCN111.ZIP OCLN111.ZIP Regards, George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16)/Binkley 2.59wb --- FreeMail/GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD REED Number: 2469 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 01/30/94 12:06p Subj: Ad (author direct) fdn Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Heya, I didn't agree to anything of the sort, with him or PC, once I -> get files through PC, they are mine for whatever I want, I only agreed about -> the weather and TV stuff, look at the contract. Well, I disagree with you, the software you get from the satellite is not your, it is own by the author who wrote the program.. So we all should respect the author request.. Hell, if we cant follow rules or request from the author or site, we will risk losing the feed from that site.. Sooooo... Ciao.. Richard --- InterEcho 1.00/b05 * Origin: M.T.C. Online BBS, Chesapeake Virginia, U.S.A. (1:275/81) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 2470 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 11:35a Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems So do I. What do you have for nodes in your areas.bbs file? --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Outdoor Sportsman's bbs Fargo ND, (701)-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2471 To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 01/29/94 9:54p Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled > people at this point in time and I assume you are hoping that > we will cough up additional funds each month for usenet > messages - would it not be in your best interest to do some of > this front end processing yourself before the info goes on the > BIG BIRD. I think that if this was done then more people would > consider paying for these services - right now I pay 50 CC> CC> CC> I'll second that motion.......... CC> <-> Charlie <-> There are several ways in which you can process the news bundles into *.pkt format. You as the subscriber get a better deal by being able to configure which header lines you want. Many Usenet messages contain many header lines which you may or may not want. The Usenet pathline can help you in obtaining where the messages came from, but an average user won't want to see that. In your configuration you may optionally hide, kill, or leave lines in the messages. -=*Jeremy*=- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2472 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/29/94 9:57p Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JF> solid usenet feed and running a stable gateway already, in _both_ direction JF> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's config file as to which groups I get? -=*Jeremy*=- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2473 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/29/94 12:35p Subj: VALUE ADDED SERVICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > yourself before the info goes on the BIG BIRD. I think that if this > was done then more people would consider paying for these services - > right now I pay 50 dollars a year for all the newsgroups that I > want, since I live close to a non - long distance calling site. > Anyway just my opinion on value added service.... Replies most > welcome.-> Dave Dave, I will not pay for newsgroups at all! I can get them free ($35/year) via a local call. The satellite option would be more of convenience than anything else. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANIEL LANSALL Number: 2474 To: JIM BECKHAM Date: 01/30/94 4:59a Subj: Mac Distribution Network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DL> MDN doesn't seem to be getting you this node. Any ideas DL> why? JB> I'm wondering the same thing. I'm VERY interested in carrying the JB> Macintosh File Echos, but have been told by my hub that they've never JB> had any traffic. God, did I type that?!! I meant. MDN isn't getting to the satellite uplink. I saw a message somewhere saying that the link from zone 3 (Australia) to zone 1 (N. America) was 'broken'. I assume someone is trying to fix it. Do you have any contacts that may be able to help? Does anybody? Daniel. --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The Exchange OS/2 BBS Prince George V32bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2475 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 01/31/94 1:38a Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> system with multiple origin lines. Hi-ASCII characters are NOT >>> permitted - >>Excuse me, but that is bulls**t. Please read the specs you are busily >>trying to wave in my face. HI-ASCII characters ARE SO permitted, quite >>explicitly. > Glenn, You are quite right about the specs, but usually "policy" dictates > otherwise.. For example, Fidonet Echomail Policy prohibits High-ASCII in > Headers, Origin Lines, Taglines, but does permit them in the body of the > text if moderator/rules permit it. Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in FidoNet is POLICY4 ... period. There is *no* FidoNet echomail policy. The use of High ASCII charachters in Echomail is an echo-by-echo decision of the individual moderators. *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does so is in clear violation of POLICY4. Moderators may warn, suspend, or terminate feeds due to rule violations (if HI-ASCII is forbidden) but no Hub or mail distribution system may take it upon themsleves to censor echomail in this manner. Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2476 To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/30/94 1:45p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Help ! > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? > I am running > RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of > FRED. This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I > think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill > Blue Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho 1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installed the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions. Bill --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2477 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 01/30/94 11:23a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Russell Naber wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin: RN> Test message to check links to pconnect. You failed, miserably...:-) Later... --- timEd-B11 * Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96 (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2478 To: ART MACK Date: 01/30/94 1:24p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art! Art was heard to say: AM> Absolutely correct, the last thing I want is the bag files changed!!! AM> Hands of our BAG files!!!! AMEN! --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 2479 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 11:57p Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on , Thomas Beal writes: TB>I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner TB>VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the TB>satellite? They've been coming through the UTILNET2 link. Latest are Ver 111. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2480 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 01/28/94 2:26p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No James McOrmond babbled profusely in a message to Dan Williamson: JM> I'm already running UseNet on my system and distribute to a JM> number of other systems in the area. I'm just wondering if JM> its actually a regular Cnews batched message bundle, or if JM> its some funky format. Standard .D/.X files from UUCP, except renamed to .BAG files. You'll need to run the rmail program via script once for each file, using the .BAG files for the standard input. Of course, on an Amiga, your mileage will no doubt vary ;-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12d * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2481 To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 01/28/94 2:28p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jack Winslade babbled profusely in a message to Dave Sloan: JW> That would effectively kill us and a number of others who .. JW> It's a lot easier to convert usenet->fido than it is to JW> convert the converted stuff back to RFC-1036 format. Amen to that.. I like the ability to map area names out as local needs dictate, and to be able to select which headers are deemed important and which headers are simply nuisances. Setting up a gateway program should be a peice of cake for anyone that can setup PC; after all, the gateway program is _only_ a peice of software.. :-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12d * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE HAYES Number: 2482 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 01/30/94 1:56p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Joe Hayes Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin: JH>Is there a way I can shut this off Boyd? JH>I don't want the pcusernet now, and doubt that I ever will. MF> Heh heh, you and alotta other people, wait till Boyd charges you MF> extra money for stuff you are sending to the bit bucket! In your MF> ptccmain.ini file change the 700=on to 701=on, then you will exit MF> right when the Overkill of USEnet Newsgroups start to move down MF> towards you. I was sending this to >Null MF> along with those ever popular QWK packets before they gave me this MF> option, now I am waiting for the option of Only paying for what I MF> signed for. MF> Murry Already have it Murry, also use the 701=on to exit after the fido and files.. NO, I WON'T PAY EXTRA! If it comes to that I will sell my system to some unexpecting person. I bought mine for 3 reasons, Fido, files, and Weather. Although we was all promised a "door" of some kind so callers can download "raw" weather data. I have a lot of callers at 2400 baud, if they want the maps, then there whole hour is shot! So most are not downloding them.. Personaly I don't care what Boyd want's to send "extra" some want it and use it. I seriously can't see why the charges for the extra stuff is so high. $30-$40 dollars a month from 1,000+ users can add up to a lot! By the way, last month the files that had no .tics was appreciated here, my file manager used the file_id.diz with no problems. -Joe * SPITFIRE v3.4 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Outer-Limits/Planet Connect System (618)439-9629 (1:2290/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2483 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/30/94 9:26p Subj: Re: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner >VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the >satellite? >--- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin > * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) Thomas, Didn't the folks at McAfee have a problem with someone distributing a "fake" version? Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2484 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/30/94 7:00p Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do you have a PROPER list one can use for PC? Can one get a copy -> of it? not sure of the specifics for WIldcat but I have one that works for PCBoard's importing programs and it's PC.TXT available on my BBS at 701-775-1143.. enjoy - it took me a while to compile that one --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2485 To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 01/30/94 8:18a Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No harold Carlson wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: hC> Well robert i hope that you dont go blind i have been hC> working with some of that equment and boy i give them more hC> credit than most of my users. the equment that is need for hC> them is twice in cost than your system and i feel that your hC> tosser dosent choke on thier messages. hC> re 10 users here with many diffent types of blind equment hC> and both of my mail tossers havn't had any problem. Ok harold, you make a good point. So good in fact, I decided not to run GMD and guess what? Psort (a great program) made a 30meg *.Pkt file the other day and it was grunged so renamed to *.Bad. So, i then took out psort also and about 5 of the numerous packets were named *.Bad still. But at least most of the mail got out. At any rate, no matter how I look at it, the mail that is invalid wont go out anyway, so I am back to running GMD. My downlinks also like the clean packets! Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2486 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 01/30/94 8:26a Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sean Peoples wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: SP> How do you figure? Being legally blind, I've *never* seen a SP> speech package that requires high-ASCII to be in the We are talking about hardware, not software. Ask Harold Carlson, he has worked with these systems. (Look back a few messages to see his reply to me) Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 2487 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 01/30/94 8:25a Subj: How in the world... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Well John, I've tried to call your board several times to get your PC.TXT file. Each time I called into your board I have spent 6 to 10 minutes just trying to get to a menu. You seem to have something slowing things way down. I should have been able to get to the main menu in a lot less than 3 minutes. I have also tried to freq the file but you must not have it available for fido freqing. Would it be possible for you to send it up to Saltair or Boyd's board? I would like to take a look at it. I have spent several hours adding the news groups into PCB & PCBUUCP and have a long way to go. Any ideas or help on how to speed this process up would be appreaciated. I would also like to make sure I do it right the first time. Thanks Mike --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2488 To: AL HAYS Date: 01/30/94 6:07p Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Al Hays wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > I dont think anything 'changed' Al... AH> AH> To tell you the truth, I really don't have the slightest AH> idea. Bill simply described what he needed and I poked out AH> some code . AH> AH> BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL? Pascal...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2489 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/31/94 8:10a Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thomas Beal wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's TB> Virus Scanner VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not TB> allowed to be distributed on the satellite? They are coming into Utilnet2. Check your directories, they should be in there. Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2490 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/31/94 8:19a Subj: IDC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! I was just wondering if you guys have any plans on upgrading the PC hardware so that we can get more than 19.2k. If there is a way to do it, then you can add more stuff and we wouldn't have to worry about missing files. Is it even possible to get more throughput with the latest technology? It would be nice to receive at 115kbps! Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 2491 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/31/94 8:27a Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why don't you get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm sure the _majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles per day (and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downlink to us? Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than the other things anyway. ( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( ) Cheers, Robert --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 2492 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/31/94 12:16p Subj: Re: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DM> At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it DM> in the native bag format DM> would be better in the long run. The bag format DM> can be directly processed DM> those of us that run pure unix systems to toss the DM> mail. Also the majority DM> not all but the majority of systems hooked to the DM> internet already use the DM> format. Therefore you make it easy for these DM> systems that already carry DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed. JH> I Disagree! The news batches I get from the Unix system JH> locally are compressed JH> with comp16 and I have already stated that compression JH> takes out some of the JH> excess space and time which is something we all are JH> concerned with. Even at JH> 19.2K, things will move along slowly. What kind of JH> through-put do you get JH> with the PC software? Now just a minute I made no statement as far as compression was concered. The files are however currently compressed with PKZIP2.4G so it's not like the transmission is the large uncompressed bag file. What I was responding to however was a statement made eariler that I interpreted to mean that the gentlemen wanted Boyd to convert the bag files over to PKT files for him. I and several others that use UNIX boxs for Usenet news groups don't want to have to mess with a PKT to BAG file conversion. Cnews want's bag files so thats what we want. Currently we get our news from UUNET but we will be switching over to PC and will only be sending our return news back through UUNET. As for throughput on PC I haven't really bothered to notice. The system is dedicated and just keeps sucking the data in all day processing Bag files as they become available. Regards, Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2493 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 01/31/94 7:46a Subj: Re: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> I am wondering why we aren't receiving updates to McAfee's Virus Scanner TB> VSCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN? Are they not allowed to be distributed on the TB> satellite? Scan, Vshield, and Clean were hatched into Utilnet and Utilnet2 several days ago. --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2494 To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/31/94 6:56a Subj: Re: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running GB> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This GB> suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be GB> appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue Gigo, in its docs, states that RA is not compliant with FSC-35 standards. Gigo is an alternative to Fred, works better, too. Configuration isn't as difficult and you only have to run one program rather than 3 or 4. --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 2495 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 01/31/94 7:15a Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru JS> you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list JS> for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet JS> $10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only 1 JS> phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you.. You could also make your usenet return mail like I do and then look in the Planet subdirectory under spool for the files. Then zip them and come up with a unique name for them and send them off to Boyd. He'll unzip, toss, and then send to his uplink. I would say use the same first 8 that your tosser uses for him, then rename the extention to .pcu. Side note: There are many systems that allow posting into newsgroups via Email. Utexas.edu is one of them. Do not send files, though. -=*Jeremy*=- --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM ST. JOHN Number: 2496 To: AL HAYS Date: 01/31/94 9:36p Subj: Re: UPLD.LST Checker Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BTW: What language is Ed using for SKYMAIL? I have seen several references to skymail. What exactly does it do? -jim- --- WM v3.10/93-1181 * Origin: Arc Light BBS/8 lines/30 cds Indpls IN 317/575-8833 (1:231/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 2497 To: BILL WHITEHOUSE Date: 01/30/94 11:46p Subj: administrivia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill, * In a message originally to Jason Fesler, Bill Whitehouse said: > According to Jason Fesler (1:203/7707.1) on Tue, Jan 25 at > 09:07: > BW>> A hudson messagebase's 200 area limit is also a burden in the absence > BW>> of a JAM tosser as stable as Gecho. Unless there really is one out > JF>I'd suggest finding someone who's actually > JF>using JAM, with Gecho, and see how they like it. > Had it running here four or five days now and have mixed > feelings about it. > JF>(We only use it as a > JF>pass-through engine, because of it's speed, then use Squish for the > JF>message bases). > You're absolutely right. We tried Squish when our dish > first went up, gave QM a shot, then settled on Gecho for the > same reason, its speed. > On the other hand, GEcho/386 1.02+ seems to require an > ALL-MESSAGE-BASE crawl before it'll scan out new mail, seeing > and deleting ECHOMAIL.JAM (the equivelant of echotoss.log) > without acting on it. > I dunno, the JAM format represents some obvious > improvements but speed isn't one of them. A JAM-base mail > check is slow, sure death. Even RBBS - the grand old wheeze > benchmark - is faster than this. Software evolves, patience > is in short supply. Hope these remarks don't offend anyone. Are you calling GE up with the -quick switch? ie: Gecho toss scan -quick import pack -flags Scans, finds my new and is done in under 30 sec.s here with 900+ JAM areas. The quick switch tells it to use the *.bbs and *.jam files instead of doing a complete scan. John --- GEcho 1.02/JAM/LAN * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2498 To: AL HAYS Date: 01/31/94 11:12p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in FidoNet is >POLICY4 ... period. There is *no* FidoNet echomail policy. The use of >High ASCII charachters in Echomail is an echo-by-echo decision of the >individual moderators. Al, Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that "echomail policy" was in force but only that something existed and was being used as a guide by the moderators of said echos.. >*NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail due to the >existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does so is in clear >violation of POLICY4. Moderators may warn, suspend, or terminate feeds due >to rule violations (if HI-ASCII is forbidden) but no Hub or mail >distribution system may take it upon themsleves to censor echomail in this I agree with you completely. I would think that GMD was only being used to alert/notify nodes of possible problems, but not change/delete any mail. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5B (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2499 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 9:42a Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems > trying to send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, Harry, It's real easy. You set up your AREAS.BBS so that your uplink is 3615/50. The AKA in FLAME is 3615/51, but that's the only place you have that AKA. Do NOT use it in your TIMS setup, for instance. Are you using a nanny for pre-processing and hubbing, or just tossing directly into TBBS? --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2500 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 01/30/94 6:39p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on At this time maybe but I beleive that leaveing it in the native DM> bag format would be better in the long run. The bag format can DM> be directly processed by those of us that run pure unix systems DM> to toss the mail. Also the majority not all but the majority of DM> systems hooked to the internet already use the bag format. DM> Therefore you make it easy for these systems that already carry DM> usenet to switch over to a less expensive feed. OK - I give in - I have already setup my system for .bag messages. Too bad there is not a current list of all areas. I had my bad message area working overtime as my system setup 623 more areas then were listed in the pcusenet.txt file. How many areas do you count. I have 2126 so far. Is this a good round number . Anyway - later I will try to feed the .bag files straight across to the other unix systems, but for now the simplest is the toss - which I am familiar with. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2501 To: JASON FESLER Date: 01/30/94 6:49p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on Dave Sloan babbled profusely in a message to Dan Williamson: DS> impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2 version. At DS> least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever DS> get it into OS/2 then I will certainly register it. JF> It would cost _someone_ several hundred bucks, as the author JF> doesn't have the hardware or software to do it.. :-) Tell him to send me the source code. It shouldn't take too long to figure out. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2502 To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:15p Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Here is a rexx script to renumber the message files in usenet - you may need this to keep up: /* Renum */ infile = 'c:\usquish\squish.cfg' outfile = 'c:\temp\squish.cfg' cnt = 1 do until LINES(infile) = 0 line = LINEIN(infile) if TRANSLATE(WORD(line, 1)) = 'ECHOAREA' then do line.cnt = WORD(line, 3) file = LINEOUT(outfile, 'EchoArea 'WORD(line, 2)' c:\nmsg\n'cnt' 'SUBWORD(line.iii, 4)) cnt = cnt + 1 end else file = LINEOUT(outfile, line) end file = LINEOUT(infile) file = LINEOUT(outfile) say 'There are 'cnt' message areas...' do iii = cnt to 1 by -1 msgname = WORD(line.iii, 3) 'rename 'msgname'.* n'iii'.*' end 'copy 'outfile' 'infile exit --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2503 To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:16p Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No And here is a script file that adds lines to your squish.cfg file for all those areas that are not listed - just run squishp in out squash link > toss.txt /* SquishUp */ /* Look for new messages and add to squish.cfg*/ /* This follows squishp in out squash link > toss.txt*/ debug = 0 squishcfg = 'c:\usquish\squish.cfg' tossup = 'c:\usquish\toss.txt' SquishTmp = 'c:\temp\squish.cfg' SquishWrk = 'c:\temp\squish.$$$' MsgTmp = 'c:\temp\msgarea.txt' Messages = 'c:' Messpath = 'nmsg' net = 1 net.1 = '1:' if debug then say 'SqUpdate ------>' /* Count new areas found in the bad messages*/ NewAreas.0 = 0 /* Until all messages have been scanned*/ filecnt = 0 do until LINES(tossup) = 0 line = LINEIN(tossup) /* Pull Area name out of control info*/ if WORD(line, 1) = 'Toss' then do AreaCond = WORD(line, 4) if debug then say 'Condition = 'AreaCond if AreaCond = '(Unknown' then do /* And put in Area*/ Area = STRIP(WORD(line, 5), 'TRAILING', ')') if debug then say 'Area = 'Area /* Which zone did this message come from - strip :-> from right*/ origin = STRIP(SUBSTR(WORD(line, 3), 2), 'TRAILING', ')') if debug then say 'origin = 'origin netid = DELSTR(origin, POS(':', origin) + 1) if debug then say 'netid = 'netid /* Make sure that we got this one from the same net*/ AreaId = Area' 'netid /* OK did we run across this one before*/ found = 0 if NewAreas.0 > 0 then do do x = 1 to NewAreas.0 if NewAreas.x = AreaId then do found = x leave end end if found = 0 then do NewAreas = NewAreas.0 + 1 NewAreas.NewAreas = AreaId NewAreas.0 = NewAreas filecnt = filecnt + 1 end end else do NewAreas.1 = AreaId NewAreas.0 = 1 /* Oh boy - a new area - copy .cfg to work area*/ 'copy 'squishcfg' 'SquishTmp if isthere(SquishWrk) then 'erase 'SquishWrk' /n' filecnt = 1 end /* Look to see if we are in that net*/ if found = 0 then do netno = 0 do y = 1 to net if POS(netid, net.y) > 0 then do netno = y leave end end /* Found net so set up line for squish.cfg*/ if netno > 0 then do /* Post for announcement*/ linemsg = 'Echo Area - 'area' added on 'Date()' 'Time() if debug then say linemsg file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, linemsg) dotp = POS('.', origin) if dotp > 0 then origin = DELSTR(origin, dotp) linemsg = 'Origin System = 'origin file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, linemsg) file = LINEOUT(MsgTmp, ' ') file = STREAM(MsgTmp, c, close) Area = LEFT(STRIP(Area), 30) /* gotta change this ]*/ SquishCln = 'EchoArea 'area' 'Messages'\'Messpath'\'LEFT(TRANSLATE(SUB STR(Area, 1, 8),'_-----','.&\/%@'),9)' -$ -$m250 -$d7 'net.netno /* And put it in the squish.cfg temp file*/ do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0 line = LINEIN(SquishTmp) if TRANSLATE(WORD(line, 1)) = 'ECHOAREA' then if POS(net.netno, TRANSLATE(line)) > 0 then leave file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line) end do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0 xline = TRANSLATE(line) if POS(net.netno, xline) = 0 then do file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, SquishCln) leave end SqArea = WORD(line, 2) if SqArea > Area then do file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, SquishCln) if debug then say 'Added after area - 'SqArea leave end file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line) line = LINEIN(SquishTmp) end do while LINES(SquishTmp) > 0 file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line) line = LINEIN(SquishTmp) end file = LINEOUT(SquishWrk, line) /* Close files*/ file = STREAM(SquishTmp, c, close) file = STREAM(SquishWrk, c, close) 'erase 'SquishTmp' /n' 'rename 'SquishWrk' 'FILESPEC('NAME',SquishTmp) end end end else if AreaCond = '(Dupe' then do MessNum = 'c:\nmsg\bad\'STRIP(WORD(line, 2), 'TRAILING', ':')'.msg' if debug then say 'Duplicate = 'MessNum 'erase 'MessNum >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2504 To: ALL Date: 01/30/94 7:16p Subj: OS/2 and usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << end end end /* Update squish config file*/ if NewAreas.0 > 0 then do 'copy 'SquishTmp' 'squishcfg 'erase 'SquishTmp' /n' end if filecnt > 0 then do LineMsg = filecnt' New Message Bases Found and Created.' say LineMsg end Exit /* Isthere - tests for the existance of a file*/ isthere: ARG wxy if debug then say 'isthere ------>' isthere = LINES(wxy) zxy = STREAM(wxy, c, close) return isthere Hope this helps..... --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2505 To: HARRY MOYLES Date: 01/30/94 6:27p Subj: AKA 3615/51 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Harry! In a message to Tbbs Sysops.. <01/28/94> Harry Moyles wrote: HM> Hello All.. HM> I am running Tbbs and Flame as you can tell.. I been having problems tryi HM> send mail to 3615/50. If I leave my aka 3615/51 in flame, When I call 361 HM> it will not take my mail. But it I commet out the aka 3615/51 it will sen HM> mail? How have you guys gotten around that problem ? HM> Thanks harry.. Harry I am not a tbbs/flame user but is flame your frontend or mail tosser. If it is your front end it will not send it to an address that is already onsite. 1:3615/51 only goes in your mail processig software and never in the frontend software. You receive mail from 1:3615/50 via aks 1:3615/51 amd all tossins is to 1:3615/50 from your replies and is sent to 1:3615/50 thus if you put an aka of 1:3615/51 in the frontend the front end sees it as beeing to your address and will not transmit it out. Just a thought. Joe Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2506 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 01/31/94 9:48a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Sean! Sunday January 30 1994, Sean Peoples writes to Russell Naber: SP> Russell Naber wrote in a message to Boyd Goodwin: RN>> Test message to check links to pconnect. SP> You failed, miserably...:-) SP> Later... SP> -+- timEd-B11 SP> + Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96 SP> (1:124/7026) Thanks for the response, let's me know two-way links are now okay. Time to start responding to all those messages from all those echos courtesy of Planet Connect. (thanks Boyd) Russell --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2507 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/01/94 8:42p Subj: Re: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running > GB> RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This > GB> suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be > GB> appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue > Gigo, in its docs, states that RA is not compliant with > FSC-35 standards. > Gigo is an alternative to Fred, works better, too. > Configuration isn't as > difficult and you only have to run one program rather than 3 > or 4. > --- Renegade V07-17BETA > * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX > Murfreesboro (1:116/150) Jeremy I am trying to locate Gigo. Do you have it avaliable for download Thanks Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2508 To: HAROLD CARLSON Date: 02/01/94 8:44p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * In a message originally to All, Gill Blue said: > GB>Help ! > GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am > GB>running > GB>RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. > GB>This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help > GB>would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue > GB>--- FMail 0.94 > GB> * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) > GB>565-3394 (1:18/16) > > I was thinking about it. The Way i Was going to try was to > use Gigo > them have Fastecho toss it to an Jam Base. I feel that might > work. > will be playing with it later in the week I Hope. > --- > * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) Harold Thanks for the info. Let me know how you make out. I am banging my head against the wall here... Tnx Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2509 To: BILL WOLF Date: 02/01/94 8:46p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Help ! > > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? > > I am running > > RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of > > FRED. This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I > > think.. any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill > > Blue > Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, > along with GEcho 1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for > me, from the moment I installed the package. Plus Jason is > very helpful in answering any questions. > Bill > --- GEcho 1.02+ > * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) > 942-2930 (1:2235/10) Thanks Bill I am trying to locate a copy. Several other sysops have also suggested Gigo. Does it work with the zipped pcusenet*.## file or does it work with the bag file. Any Info would be appreciated. I am trying to toss (some) of the Newsgroups into the message are for reading. Tnx Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2510 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 01/30/94 2:34p Subj: Re: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Original To : Wallace Sheldon (1:3615/50) Hello Wally, Sure, You have to have the dongle. No way around that. But the problem seemed to be that if you go into your printer object settings to the output page. You will be able to open another settings notebook by selecting on the port with the right mouse button. Select Open. You will notice that there is a check box at the bottom labeled "SHARE ACCESS" select it. This will allow OS/2 to work correctly with the dongle. Another thing, look at the card which has your printer port on it. You should have all pins working. OS/2 2.1 likes it that way, but doesn't really require it. v2.0 did require all pins. My LPT card has all pins working. Yours is not if the last 4 to 7 pins is all connected together. which is the case for most of the IDE,Floppy, Ser,Par & Game port cards. So flip the card over and see. I don't know if this is the only differences. Let me know Michael Erwin Team OS/2 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DEREK KOOPOWITZ Number: 2511 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 01/31/94 10:13p Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore the >anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened >before. Where can I get a copy of Skymail? þ QMPro 1.52 þ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines. --- WM v3.11 [Beta] * Origin: WILDUUCP! - InterNet/FTSC Gateway for WILDCAT! (1:161/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TYE HAMMERLE Number: 2512 To: JOHN LYON Date: 01/31/94 6:33a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL>-> Speak for yourself. If they're gonna do something they oughta do it JL>-> not half-assed. Make a little *.TIC to go with the file. If it's not JL> Are you another one with a $1000 satelite and a $100 HD? JL>:-) Nope, $1200 HD and can't afford a satellite right now. Tye 8-) --- FMail 0.96g+ * Origin: Leak Path BBS, San Diego CA (619)584-0703/1713 (1:202/1002) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM JACOBS Number: 2513 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 01/30/94 11:56p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > MY POINT IS!!!! - Since you are feeding mostly Fidonet styled people at > this point in time and I assume you are hoping that we will cough up > additional funds each month for usenet messages - would it not be in > your best interest to do some of this front end processing yourself > before the info goes on the BIG BIRD. Hmmmmm..... Might be a good idea here!! Tim Jacobs - Virginia Data Exchange 804-877-3562 --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: Virginia Data Exchange (1:271/270) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2514 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 01/31/94 5:03p Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Tu 25-Jan-94 20:38, Robert Hilgar wrote: RH> Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can RH> be read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't RH> care, if it's gonna choke my tosser, I delete the message! Perhaps a better thing to delete would be your mail processor. The only character that should technically not be allowed in a message is a NULL simply because thats going to specify the end of the message. If your mail tosser is going to crash because of an ascii character in a message that may not "look" good, then your tosser is garbage. --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner,VFC,(613)521-5680(1:163/165),Z19,521-0455 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2515 To: BILL WOLF Date: 02/01/94 6:56a Subj: Remote Access and Pcusene Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho ->1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installed ->the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions. Is this thru a DESQview environmanet by any chance? Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2516 To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/01/94 7:00a Subj: GEcho / WildMail / PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill, Last we talked about using GEcho to "preprocess" the mail received via PC, I told you of a problem where GEcho deleted the outbound bundles created by WildMail. My fix here was to tell GEcho I had a different outbound directory for mail bundles than the one I use for WildMail. GEcho and WildMail are co-existing perfectly now thus speeding up the processing of the mail received via PC! Thanks, Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 2517 To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/01/94 5:50a Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Help ! > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am running > RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. This > suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help would be > appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue I am. I use Gecho to toss but this batch file may work for you. It runs under 4DOS and works real well for me... Not sure if this is the kind of info you need but maybe it'll help someone else trying to automate the tossing. v: cd\fred\spool\pcusenet if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* pkunzip -o v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* del v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* for %%m in (v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do v:\fred\fred-uf -c (line continued) v:\fred\config.nws %%m c:\file\pkt\0000%@substr[%%m,27,4].pkt ^^ Edit this number to indicate the starting position of #### of the bag file counting the full drive:path\filename (up to "news"). In other words in this case it is 27 characters to get to the #### of the bag file in my path: v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news####.bag (which is where my .BAG files are located after being unarchived. del *.bag (now call your mail tosser) Hope this helps! Ed --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 14gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2518 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 02/01/94 1:22p Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Do you have a PROPER list one can use for PC? Can one get a copy -> -> of it? -> -> not sure of the specifics for WIldcat but I have one that works for P -> importing programs and it's PC.TXT available on my BBS at 701-775-114 -> - it took me a while to compile that one Any texted base file will work as long as the areas are defined with the proper names. I received one with my tosser that had all the areas defined (about 5000) and most had a description of the area included. I'm using the one from PC now though because it only includes the areas that are being sent. What I was really looking for is a list that defines each area and displays whether the area is "moderated" allows file attaches, what kind, whether origin lines are allowed and things of that nature. In other words, a rundown of the rules for each group. I forsee a lot of PO'd people with sysops setting up groups improperly. Know where such a list can be retrieved? I would hate to think I would have to make a post in each group asking for the rules! Yuk! BTW, I would still like to take a look at your list, is it Frq'able? Thanks! --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: Outer Limits *4 Nodes* InterNet (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2519 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 02/01/94 4:23p Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi George, 30 Jan 94, 12:28, George Vandervort wrote to Thomas Beal: GV> I got them via the PC Satellite feed... They all used to come in one echo called Macafee. It doesn't appear to be available thru PC. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 2520 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/01/94 3:33p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: RH> We are talking about hardware, not software. Ask Harold I was speaking of both...I've had experience with several systems...I'm not saying I know all there is to know about speech systems, but I've never encountered that in my experience... RH> Carlson, he has worked with these systems. (Look back a few RH> messages to see his reply to me) I'll take a look... Later... --- timEd-B11 * Origin: The .\ssylum * Cedar Hill, TX * Clinton/Barney in '96 (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2521 To: ALL Date: 02/01/94 7:54p Subj: Dups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! what is with all the duplicate message in this echo and many others! < of the "High Ascii" codes are needed for blind people so that the mail can RH> read for them by their equiptment. But guess what? I don't care, if it's RH> go choke my tosser, I delete the message! I've got a few friends that are all blind. The high ascii doesn't do squat for them unless they specifically tell it to. They pleasantly ignore the high ascii, unless they are trying to manipulate the bastardized Microsoft user interface that uses high-ascii to mark the various radio boxes.. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12d * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2523 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/30/94 11:02p Subj: Re: Help Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeremy Hall babbled profusely in a message to John Luong: JH> happy with Gigo. The author, Jason Fesler is helpful and JH> posts regularly in the UFGATE echo. Hope this helps... Oh Psst, Jeremy - that check is the mail.. Don't tell anyone! =-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12d * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2524 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 01/31/94 9:50p Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeremy Hall babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: JF> solid usenet feed and running a stable gateway already, in _both_ JF> direction JF> JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's JH> config file as to which groups I get? Beats me, varies from software to software. I don't even run UNIX as an administrator (only as a user). I find it to be a powerful, but primitive, setup. Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12e+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2525 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 02/01/94 4:47p Subj: Re: PC & UseNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Sloan babbled profusely in a message to Jason Fesler: DS> impressive. Too bad they don't have an OS/2 version. At DS> least the DOS version works well under OS/2. If they ever DS> get it into OS/2 then I will certainly register it. JF> It would cost _someone_ several hundred bucks, as the author JF> doesn't have the hardware or software to do it.. :-) DS> Tell him to send me the source code. It shouldn't take too DS> long to figure out. Sorry, I do not intend on handing the source code out to anyone. I devote too much money _into_ the project, to give away my work like that. I only give out source for porting purposes etc on stuff that I wrote as freeware. When I become rich and famoush, and can afford that OS/2 box with all of the development materials, I'll make the OS/2 version. Until then, it's either the DOS box, or experiment with the OS/2 gateway progams (UUGATE comes to mind, but I have not actually looked at it). Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A12e+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2526 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 02/02/94 9:43p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > v: > cd\fred\spool\pcusenet > if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* pkunzip -o > v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* > if exist v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* del > v:\file\pcusenet\pcusenet.* > for %%m in (v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do > v:\fred\fred-uf -c > (line continued) v:\fred\config.nws %%m > c:\file\pkt\0000%@substr[%%m,27,4].pkt > > ^^ > Edit this number to indicate the starting position of #### > of the bag file > counting the full drive:path\filename (up to "news"). In > other words in > this case it is 27 characters to get to the #### of the bag > file in my > path: v:\fred\spool\pcusenet\news####.bag (which is where > my .BAG files > are located after being unarchived. > del *.bag Ed Thanks very much for the information. I tried that batch file that you sent me. The only thing I changed was v: to c: I have all my paths for fred the same as your example. I get an error when it executes the fred-fu command. It gives me ERROR opening file c:\file\pkt\0000m,27,4].PKT for output.. Any other suggestions. I have my pcusenet.### IN THE C:\FILE\PCUSENET\ directory. It unzips them and puts the bag files in the c:\fred\spool\pcusenet\ directory. Then I run into the error as I stated above.. Thanks for your help... Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) 565-3394 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER BABLER Number: 2527 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/01/94 8:35p Subj: Errors in D Link transfer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --> Note: Copied (from: PCSITES) by Roger Babler using timEd. As of the past 3 to 4 weeks we have noticed a ever increasing amount of errors in transmissons from the sattelite. Just have recived a new reciver and no change (orignal one had a bad power cable connection) Many thanks the speedy replacement "UPS RED" with a Sat. delivery. I serve as the Reciving station for Dave Blum here and then we DL the Data at night to his BBS. To day (Wen.) on the first pass Aprox half of the FIDO packets errored out the on the second pass got aprox 4 more and ect. this is about how it has been going. Questions are this I have the dual feed on a C band system can I by changing the dip sw. settings can the C-Band reciver be used for KU I know that the Cband dual feed is not the greatest but would like to try ?? Do you send data down on bouth G-3 and G-1 C Band at the same time or is G-1 only a backup ?? What is the transponder for KU and the Sattelite and polarity. We are using a 12 Mhz. 286 machine With a 40 Meg hard drive acess time is 28 ms. do we need to upgrade or is this OK know the 40 meg is geting full on busy days. If there is a Known trouble at the up-link it would be nice if a small text file be inserted in the UPLD.LST w/a approtate name such as Sys_dn.Txt so we could be alerted of a trouble. Would save a few phone calls to PC Connect. Also it seems that file transfer rates to get missed FIDO have been rather slow only 600 cps. ANY CLUES AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON !! Thank You Roger A. Babler --- timEd/B7 * Origin: The Rural Fire Data BBS 608-938-4584 (1:11/600.3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2528 To: ALL Date: 02/02/94 6:36a Subj: pcfu Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * Message originally: From: John Morano To : All Date: 02-02-94 Area: "PCSITES" * Forwarded by John Morano using RemoteAccess 2.01/Professional (250 node) PCFU additions and fixes to date. Freq. PCFU on 1:391\1180 And I'm working on adding -f (filespec) support to the DUP command, See Jay I do read my netmail..... and go Hmmmmmmm...... ;-) John... 01-29-94 PCFU199D Installed support for IBM DOS 6.10 Installed support for IBM Dos 5.00 Fix bug that was leaving behind some temp files that would cause a system crash on fire up. (Thanks Joe Lyda) Increased DUP check function speed by 200% 01-30-94 PCFU199E Got the Pre-Tic function working if the -p switch is use with the -fTIC filespec a text message called PTIC.MSG will be created in the current INDEX directory with a listing of the tic'ed files and the discriptions. This is an appended file and will continue to grow each time you use the -fTic function. so do someting with is and then delete it. ;-) 02-01-94 PCFU199F Fixed bug in the RECEIVED.NOT and FREQTHEM.NOW file creation routines. This will also fix the problem with the RUNBBS.NOW file not being created when the RECEIVED.NOT file was empty. Added log file culling support for the PMOV.LOG and UPLDMSTR.LOG. Fixed a bug in the 12:xxAM<>12:xxPM file time conversion routine (Thanks Dave Petrucci) Added a routine to create a text file called P-ALARM.MSG in the current INDEX directory if a file is moved to the SAFE directory. I will be using this for other things in the future. --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2529 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/02/94 1:38p Subj: GEcho / WildMail / PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Bill, -> -> Last we talked about using GEcho to "preprocess" the mail received -> via PC, I told you of a problem where GEcho deleted the outbound -> bundles created by WildMail. -> -> My fix here was to tell GEcho I had a different outbound directory -> for mail bundles than the one I use for WildMail. GEcho and WildM -> are co-existing perfectly now thus speeding up the processing -> of the mail received via PC! great.... glad you got it fixed... I knew it would be something simple (g).... it always is, unfortunately, and when I finally stumble on it, it has a tendency to humble me (g).... cheers.. Bill.. --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2530 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/02/94 5:14p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusene Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >->Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, along with GEcho >->1.02+. GIGO has been working flawlessly for me, from the moment I installe > d >->the package. Plus Jason is very helpful in answering any questions. > Is this thru a DESQview environmanet by any chance? No. I haven't even been able to get PC to work under DV! . Just through a novell enviroment.. It's on the server for novell lite. Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2531 To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/02/94 5:59p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GB> > > Help ! GB> > > Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? GB> > Get a hold of a copy of GIGO. That's what I'm using here, GB> I am trying to locate a copy. Several other sysops have GB>also suggested Gigo. Does it work with the zipped GB>pcusenet*.## file or does it work with the bag file. Any Info You need to manually, unzip the pcusenet files, and then run GIGO. Atleast that's what I'm doing over here. I beleive that a version of GIGO was just hatched over the sdn. You can also try getting it directly from Jason's system. 1:203/7707. File request 'GIGO'. Hope this helps! Take Care, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI - Always on tap! 21.6k Dual (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2532 To: ALL Date: 01/23/94 4:41p Subj: Mail Processing Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have any suggestions on a batch file or is there a program out there to do my mail processing automatically for me? For example: If the planet connect computer exits to a mail processing batch file at a specific time each day, and does this..... C: CD C:\FD\INBOUND COPY Y:\SKY\FILES\0000ffff.fr* CD C:\FD\UTILS TOSSRBBS It will pick up Friday's mail, and toss it, yet, how about the packets that are marked *.FRA, *.FRB, etc.? The Mail Tosser doesn't acknowledge that they even exist. Also, how can I tell the system to only copy over and process mail for that specific day, and ignore the resending of the previous day's mail? Thanks in advance. --jah ... The Twilight Zone BBS * ASP HUB BBS #3 * MidCentral USA --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN HRUSOVSZKY Number: 2533 To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 01/26/94 9:26p Subj: Re: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JH>> Yeah...and the flood of OS/2 files coming down is a pain to JH>> sort through also. PM> Well, I suppose it depends on your perspective. Personally, PM> I'd be happy if every file that came down the pipe was for PM> OS/2. ;> The Fernwood OS/2 filenet areas are one of the main PM> reasons I got involved with Planet Connect in the first place. PM> As we're finding out in this area, everyone is interested in PM> this thing for different reasons. It makes for some excited and PM> energetic sysops. Yes, that is quite understandable. But, for those of us who are die-hard DOS fans, and don't want to switch to OS/2 or carry OS/2 files on our systems, is there a way to filter these out without uncompressing them and looking at them? --jah ... Precinct Toilet Stolen ... Police have Nothing to Go On. --- Via Silver Xpress V3.01 --- RBBSMail v18.1 * Origin: The Twilight Zone BBS*Auburndale (715) 652-2758 (1:238/300.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 2534 To: GEORGE VANDERVORT Date: 01/31/94 6:08p Subj: McAfee's Virus Scanner Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> Look in these file areas... GV> 1. UTILNET2 GV> SCANV111.ZIP GV> CLEAN111.ZIP GV> VSH111.ZIP They must have came in when my receiver died. :-( Thanks for the reply --- GEcho 1.02+WeBJammin * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN COOK Number: 2535 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/01/94 3:02p Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FH> I'm simply guessing that the number of messages FH> would be proportional to the number of nodes that FH> are accessible to the network. Internet is not Usenet and Usenet is not Internet. The number of internet nodes is not directly related to the amount of Usenet traffic. Also, a good number of those Fidonet nodes are in other zones a good portion of whose echomail traffic never sees the North American backbone. Internet users also tend to use E-mail and mailing lists more than Fidonetters, reducing news group traffic at least a tad. You might be amazed at how much of the Usenet traffic consists of useless UUENCODEd .GIFs and the like. You can imagine what traffic would be like if Fidonet UUENCODEd the Filebone and sent it out over a few echos. Traffic is more like Usenet 15 : Fidonet 1 though, isn't it? - Dan --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2536 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/02/94 4:51a Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Robert Hilgar Was Heard Saying This To Boyd Goodin: RH>but why don't you get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk RH>and Weather files that I'm sure the _majority_ here don't I say get rid of the USEnet also...........don't hate me. RH>( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( ) Me too:+) Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2537 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 02/02/94 8:01a Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Chris Wiesner wrote in a message to Glenn Caleval: > Is WGA on the bird? I seem to recall seeing a WGAMail file at some > point. If it is that would be a real bonus to a couple of my users > who are serious genealogical hobbiests. CW> Hi Glenn, CW> every now and then I see WGAMAIL.ZIP come in via PC. CW> However, I'm not sure yet how often and how reliable the CW> pre-PC feed is. (440:121/99?) We'll have to wait till Boyd CW> lets us know the official story. I at one point converted CW> over, but then nothing came in for a while. Now it's here CW> again. CW> Boyd, what's the scoop on WGA? Is it going to come in daily, CW> weekly,,, or what? WGA is my last landline network...I want CW> to dump it asap! I uplink the wgamail, and i wait for the landline site to drop off mail here to uplink it. he has been having a bit of trouble the last couple of weeks, getting the AKA zone number to work properly. i will probally go over to his house this weekend and help set squish up for him. once thats done, we should have nightly uplinks of any new wgamail. for now, i have to process whatever he give me in the non-secure mode of squish, manually. because he has an incorrect node number in the from packet. we are still working the kinks out... Hope this helps... --- * Origin: Galaxy (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2538 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/02/94 9:37a Subj: NOTICE! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Caleval wrote in a message to Chris Wiesner: > weekly,,, or what? WGA is my last landline network...I want to > dump it asap! GC> If it gets on the bird reliably I (well, my system) will GC> join immediately :-) O yea, btw, WGA changed their zone address in the last couple of weeks to 440: Still causing a few problems with "other" net numbers showing up... Its fixed here... --- * Origin: GALAXY (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2539 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/03/94 1:42p Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Al! Friday January 28 1994, Al Hays writes to All: AH> Pursuant to the "blank" line problem that was discovered in UPLD.LST, a AH> fixed version of UPCHECK is immediately available as UPCHK05B.ZIP, 13k, AH> MagicName: UPCHECK. AH> UPCHECK ver .05á AH> Checks a list of directories contained in UPCHECK.CFG for files listed AH> in a filelist. This is a very simple program. If you are capable of AH> running a Planet Connect system, you should have no problem figuring out AH> how to use UPCHECK. AH> Regards, AH> Al AH> -+- DB 1.53/002765 AH> + Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe index file, i.e. have upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's idx-dup file? This way upcheck can check all files against the upld.lst like you have implemented, but also check files not found against the dupe list from PCUtil's! This way a sysop could upon errorlevel exit from you program could note the files not found error, setup a flag file and then go toss the stuff (which involves moving the files out of the inbound directory), and restart ptccmain again later after tossing to get those missing files, but this time when exiting and calling upcheck, the other previously found files would no longer be there in the inbound directory and would show up as files not found because they were tossed. If upcheck checked PCUtil's dupe index then you would know that the file has previously been found and recieved and tossed. Thereby allowing faster tossing of files to your system, and later you can go get those missing files again from the dish. I'm still trying to think this one out, but you would want to make this a option, as for now I am cycling back into ptccmain to get those missing files, but it involves another 3 to 4 hour downtime going to get them. For those who multi-task, they could toss the files and meanwhile run another batch to relink to the disk to get the missing files. Dupes found would of course be deleted by PCUtil. Of course if would be nice if ptccmain would allow specifying either all files to get, or just certain file names then exit. This could be specified to ptccmain with a switch command. What do you think? Russell --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2540 To: ROGER BABLER Date: 02/03/94 4:20p Subj: Errors in D Link transfer Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, We had the same problems, we were using a 386sx-16 2mb, 16k cache. I upgraded it to a 386sx33 2mb, 16kcache. Works like a charm now. Michael Erwin TEAM OS/2 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 2541 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 02/03/94 12:55a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sean Peoples wrote in a message to Russell Naber: RN> Thanks for the response, let's me know two-way links are now RN> okay. SP> Yep, that they are... RN> Time to start responding to all those messages from all RN> those echos courtesy of Planet Connect. (thanks Boyd) SP> Hehe..No doubt...I'm tied in by land-line, but who knows, SP> maybe someday I'll have a dish...:-) You don't have to be, Sean. 124/2106 is collecting the full feed and is available to anyone in Net124 who wants to sample satellite mail. =Eric --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2542 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/04/94 11:27p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Jan 28, Guy VanDell of 1:116/80 wrote to Tom Haavisto: GV> GMD works on netmail right? Wrong. It only checks the integrity of the packet comtaining them. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2543 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/04/94 11:28p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Jan 31, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to Dave Petrucci: AH> Pardon me, Dave, but the *ONLY* Policy document in force in AH> FidoNet is POLICY4 ... period. And the Gateway Policy ... period. AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4. Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4, mail can only be routed by agreement. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2544 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/04/94 11:32p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Jan 27, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to Tom Haavisto: GC> Perhaps you should *carefully* read the actual specs as they have GC> been promulgated by the FTSC. The vast majority of stuff that GMD GC> can be configured to delete is totally *within* spec and no one GC> has any business deleting it. In fact, I think there are only two GC> configurable options in GMD that actually have anything to do GC> with the formal specs at all. Name the two then I'll name a few others to show some that you missed. GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size. "Explictly"? Please provide a quote. TH> When a message has multiple origin lines, this tells TH> me that something bad happened to it. GC> Have you ever wondered how what you think are "grunged" msgs GC> managed to make it through the many systems enroute to your GC> system without breaking anyone elses software? Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged. GC> So the software used on the *end* node should be capable of GC> modifying, or deleting the msgs that offend that given end node. GC> Those who are supposed to MOVE the MAIL have no business deleting GC> that which they have agreed to move. I agree fully. The Backbone has requested that "strange" characters not be used in the control fields. GC> This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication. You can't have effective communications when the noise level gets too high. GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail processor delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a dupe? Does it use ANY method other than the seen-bys? Where in the specs is this method defined? John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2545 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/04/94 11:44p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Jan 30, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to Dave Petrucci: GC> I am not unsympathetic to people who run software that cannot GC> cope with various things like large masgs or high ascii. But GC> there are two simple facts: 1) such people are in a tiny minority GC> position and 2) there are relatively trivial ways for them to GC> cope with the problem on *their*own* system without imposing GC> their limitations on everyone else. "Tiny minority". Most of the mail processors I'm familiar with will not handle a message of unlimited size. Will yours? GC> The reason the specs were written as open and not constrictive GC> was to allow inovation while maintaining basic compatibility. That might be correct with respect to FTS-0001 but it certainly doesn't apply to FTS-0004. FTS-0004 wasn't written to be a spec at all. It was taken from the ConfMail doc's. As a standard it's a joke. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2546 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/04/94 11:53p Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 03, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to Robert Hilgar: AH> That's fine and dandy ... but since high ASCII codes are in AH> complete compliance with FTS, ... Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at all. If you disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy of the ASCII spec that says so. My copy of the spec lists only 7 bit characters. So, if you are truly interested in compliance with specs then you should stop using nonstandard terms like "high ASCII". John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2547 To: DEREK KOOPOWITZ Date: 02/02/94 5:55p Subj: New errorlevel drops. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Derek Koopowitz wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>THANK YOU :) I think Ed is going to do an update to make SkyMail ignore the >anyway.....It was something that got overlooked since it never had happened >before. DK> Where can I get a copy of Skymail? It was sent over the bird but if you werent around then you can get it here as SKYMAIL.ZIP greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2548 To: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Date: 01/30/94 4:13a Subj: Value Added Service Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <28 Jan 94 14:04:24>, bryan@edgar.mn.org (1:282/31) writes: bA>The majority of subscribers are Fidonet people because that's what is bA>currently the only thing being fed reliably. Usenet is over 10 times bA>the size of Fidonet and I bet that if Planet Connect came up with a bA>receiver that could be connected to a unix system, once usenet is being bA>fed reliably, they'll eventually have alot more usenet subscribers than bA>Fidonet subscribers. I'm new at this, so my assumptions could be way out of line.... If Usenet access is available to Internet nodes, then Usenet would be more than *1000* times greater than Fidonet rather than only 10 times. According to The Online User's Encyclopedia on page 100, the size of each is as follows: Network Size Internet 2,000,000 FidoNet 22,000 RIME 1,200 ILINK 250 FrEdMail 200 BITNET 3,500 OneNet 200 SmartNet 250 InfoLink 5 WWIVNet 4,000 UUCP 15,000 I'm simply guessing that the number of messages would be proportional to the number of nodes that are accessible to the network. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN DHATT Number: 2549 To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 01/24/94 8:47p Subj: Sorting Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 22 Jan 94 15:25, Paul Mallett wrote to Tim Jacobs: PM> This is a fault/feature of OS/2, not of the Planet Connect PM> software. OS/2 does not allow for direct access to hardware PM> dongles. It's certainly conveivable that IBM could change that, PM> but in the mean time there is nothing that can be done, except PM> remove the dongle check. :> Supposedly, the Senteniel dongles have support for OS/2. I think they are by Rainbow Technologies. If you want the number, let me know and I'll look it up. --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1218 * Origin: Dhatt's Point (1:3648/2.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL OXNER Number: 2550 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 01/30/94 4:02p Subj: footprint Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can you tell me how far south the satellite footprint reaches? Central America? South America? Are BBS's in those areas able to subscribe? bill --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: ASIAN_LINK international echo - Spanning the BBS World (1:388/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2551 To: GILL BLUE Date: 01/31/94 5:04p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Gill Blue said: GB>Help ! GB> Are there any Remote Access Sysops tossing pcusnet ? I am GB>running GB>RA 2.01 Frontdoor and Fmail Tosser. I have a copy of FRED. GB>This suppose to be a uucp to fido gateway I think.. any help GB>would be appreciated.. Thanks Gill Blue GB>--- FMail 0.94 GB> * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Alabama (205) GB>565-3394 (1:18/16) I was thinking about it. The Way i Was going to try was to use Gigo them have Fastecho toss it to an Jam Base. I feel that might work. will be playing with it later in the week I Hope. --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 2552 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/01/94 4:56p Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeremy Hall wrote: JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's JH> config file as to which groups I get? Try in /usr/lib/news ....... the file is 'active'. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2553 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/01/94 7:06p Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: QWK's BY: Robert Hilgar to Boyd Goodin on Mon Jan 31 1994 08:27 am > Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why don't you > get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm sure the > _majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles per day ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I wouldn't agree with this. If I wanted nothing but a full Usenet feed, I would have signed up with the PageSat system, it was BECAUSE Planet Connect has such a variety, and a willingness to send up everything they could get their hand on, that sold me on this system! I personally LOVE all this stuff pooring into my drives. I don't mind doing a "ECHO Y|DEL *.*" now and then to clean it off... sure beats calling long distance for it!!!!!! > (and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downlink to u > Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than the other > things anyway. > > ( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( ) This isn't hate mail... just think of it as... "to let you know how I feel mail" --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2554 To: DEAN WEST Date: 01/31/94 7:23p Subj: RE: PC QUESTIONS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > As I to am looking into setting up a Sat downlink, where can someone > get a copy of the Canadian price list. Would rather buy Canadian to > avoid all the hassle of getting it over the border. Look in the nodelist for David E. Smith at Westonia Computers in Weston, Ontario. I can't recall his node address,,,, something like 250/??? Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE LAFRENIERE Number: 2555 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/02/94 8:04p Subj: Network list Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I understand that you do not publish a list of networks that are using Planet Connect to distribute their mail. I find that hard to believe, since such a list would only promote the futhur use of the system to new nets and sysops. A list of current networks published once a week here in this conference would be of great help. As an RC for two of the nets that currently use the system I find that such a list would be benificial to me as well. I am told by the local dish owner that he can not get such a list either. That surprises me. George --- WM v2.06/92-0050 * Origin: BBS, Leicester MASS (508) 892-8857 (1:322/605) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRYAN@EDGAR.MN.ORG Number: 2556 To: ALL Date: 02/04/94 7:09a Subj: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson) Newsgroups: tdkt-fido.planet-connect Subject: How In The World... Organization: Electronics 101. Apple Valley, MN Reply-To: bryan@edgar.mn.org In article <760253605.AA07498@tdkt.mn.org>, Sean Peoples wrote: > following up a message from Jason Fesler to Jeremy Hall: > > JH> On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's > JH> config file as to which groups I get? > > /usr/uucp/admin > > I think... > > The filename should be 'active' If the system is running c-news look for /usr/lib/news/active or /usr/local/lib/news/active If it's running INN try /usr/local/news/newsgroups -- Bryan Halvorson bryan@edgar.mn.org N0BUU bryan@n0buu.ampr.org --- * Origin: The Dark Knight's Table: Free Public Access News/Email (1:282/31) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 2557 To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 02/05/94 2:32a Subj: Lock with OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday January 30 1994, Michael Erwin writes to Wallace Sheldon: Hello Michael! ME> Sure, You have to have the dongle. No way around that. But the problem ME> seemed to be that if you go into your printer object settings to the ME> output page. You will be able to open another settings notebook by ME> selecting on the port with the right mouse button. Select Open. You will ME> notice that there is a check box at the bottom labeled "SHARE ACCESS" ME> select it. This will allow OS/2 to work correctly with the dongle. ME> Another thing, look at the card which has your printer port on it. You ME> should have all pins working. OS/2 2.1 likes it that way, but doesn't ME> really require it. v2.0 did require all pins. My LPT card has all pins ME> working. Yours is not if the last 4 to 7 pins is all connected together. ME> which is the case for most of the IDE,Floppy, Ser,Par & Game port cards. ME> So flip the card over and see. I don't know if this is the only ME> differences. I set it all up and the silly pccmain software just exited immediately upon execution closing the window behind it..i played with it for a bunch of hours and figered something was screwy..what are you session settings? I couldnt do it. :( Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Saturday February 05 1994 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1219 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EMMETT PERDUE Number: 2558 To: GILL BLUE Date: 02/03/94 3:10p Subj: Remote Access and Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GB> I am trying to locate Gigo. Do you have it avaliable for download GB> Thanks Gill Got it here Gill...come on in and get it, you have the numbers... Emmett MegaMail 2.10 #905:A SPITFIRE Support BBS Since 1990 --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The COLUMBIA Byte House * Andalusia, AL * 205-222-0772 * (1:18/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2559 To: ALL Date: 02/05/94 12:32p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? Thanks... ............................................................... . Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 . . Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| . . York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | . . 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] . ...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo.. --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 2560 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 4:31a Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> JL>-> Nope, $1200 HD and can't afford a satellite right now. -> -> JL> Yer sure doin' a lot of screaming for someone that doesn't even -> JL> have the service. -> -> Didn't realize having the service was a requirement for voicing an op Saying their operation is "half-assed" sounded a little more like screaming than an opinion to be, but opinions are like assholes, everyone has one :) -> Actually I haven't screamed at all, yet. :) Our NET is probably goi -> getting hooked up to PC pretty soon. I may be moving in the next year -> an area where PC might be the best alternative. I'd sure like to see -> with PC run smooth and no little burps introduced by someone or someo -> either end trying to do everyone a 'favor'. While I appreciate the th -> would be much better if the actions were completely carried out with -> to how files are processed on the end users systems, i.e. my system a -> yours. There are always little burps....in anything, you should know that by now. PC has been here only months and it has come a long way and will get nothing but better. There hasn't been a week where I haven't had to write a new batch file or change a config to compensate for something new. Yes it's a pain, but still worth it. Someday PC will be all setup to everyones satisfaction. PC is something totally new and offering so many things, it's gonna take patience and time to work everything out.....not yelling. I've noticed since all the dummies yelled about the 30 megs of games that Boyd was kind enough to just throw in, nothing else has came down like that again. I can't believe that someone would hook a computer up to a satelite that transmits at 19000 24 hrs a day and use a 40 meg HD, then have the gonades to yell his drive filled up! If you can't play with the big boys...you should take your marbles and go home.....That's MY Opinion...and not necessarily directed at you. I bought PC for myself and my system and I'm taking/processing everything that comes down the pike! A nice perk was I'm now feeding my (Fido) Net and have reduced thier cost by about 80%. I haven't heard one bitch from them. -> I'd guess, and I could be wrong, that most systems use a file -> that utilizes *.TIC's to toss them to the right place. Nothing is mor -> aggravating than getting files without *.TIC's and having to either p -> them manually or look at each to see what it is then delete it. Grant -> are ways around this with little batch files and DIZ processors but t -> unecessarily to the already complex stuff we have to do. Writing batch files has never been too complex...actually, it's kinda fun and satisfying to make everything work! -> To add insult -> injury the SDN weenies are distributing .ARJ files with .SDN extensio -> find it hard to believe they actually sat down and thought that up. B -> my system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know w -> with them. We get a semi standard way of doing business and some grou -> to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on about -> nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how to -> processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL *.SDN ? Allfix doesn't sound like an apprapo name then does it? :) Why would you want to change the SDN files? Add bbs comments? Take AV stamps out? ??? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: Outer Limits *4 Nodes* InterNet (1:2380/400.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED WHITTOM Number: 2561 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 02/02/94 4:33a Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Boyd! -> -> Everyone here will probably want to kill me for saying it, but why do -> get rid of all the QWK netowrks, TV junk and Weather files that I'm s -> _majority_ here don't use. Then we would be able to get more cycles p -> (and maybe a "FULL Usenet feed) until there is a faster way to downli -> Receiving all the Fido and Usenet stuff is more of a priority than th -> things anyway. -> -> ( I'm now preparing for the hate mail :-( ) -> -> Cheers, -> Robert Maybe other people think the other stuff is junk and want the QWK packets only, ever think about that? Fred --- WM v3.10/93-0786 * Origin: THE BACKDOOR BBS Williamsburg, VA (1:271/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2562 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/07/94 1:55a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 06, Floyd Drennon of 1:375/14 wrote to John Souvestre: JS> And the Gateway Policy ... period. FD> When was that ratified as required by P4? I don't know, Floyd. It was before my time. I understand that the IC does consider it "in effect". John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2563 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 02/06/94 6:52a Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Mike Labbe to Robert Hilgar it was said: ML> Hell, where did I put that shotgun? The upcoming ML> Usenet service may be a priority for you, but for me Fido ML> and RIME are the priorities and the QWK networks are a very ML> valuable and money saving proposition. (i use Pagesat for ML> Usenet news) The little bandwidth that they use is a good ML> investment. The "majority" probably uses Fido, since it was ML> their first offering. With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter! Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2564 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/06/94 2:44p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> unecessarily to the already complex stuff we have to do. To add insu -> injury the SDN weenies are distributing .ARJ files with .SDN extensio -> find it hard to believe they actually sat down and thought that up. B -> my system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know w -> with them. We get a semi standard way of doing business and some grou -> to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on about -> nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how to -> processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL *.SDN ? if you don't have a severe attitude problem, your messages certainly do come off that way..... as for the SDN weenies distributing .ARJ files with .SDN extension, that has been going on for quite some time... and prior to that those SDN weenies were distributing .PAK files with .SDN extension..... if you would take the trouble to find out if there might be a reason for this before flying off at the mouth, responses would probably not contain the vitriol so evident in your messages... and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN... how about FORMAT C: as a less destructive alternative, you might take a quick course on manners.... cheers.... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL ERWIN Number: 2565 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 02/05/94 3:08p Subj: RUNNING ON OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Wallace, Open the port object and set SHARED ACCESS to On. This worked for me, but also beware that OS/2 2.0 likes all the LPT lines to be there. OS/2 2.1GA likes that they be there also but doesn't require them. Some of the cheaper LPT cards shorts pins 18-25 on the DB-25 & some of the lower grade LPT cables do the same thing. If you still have problems contact me. .\\ichael OS/2 Accredited TEAM OS/2 --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The PRO-Line Network (1:262/33) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 2566 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 5:52a Subj: Charge Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a hub fee -> for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? It all depends on how many nodes are picking up mail from us. But the cost is split even between all nodes.. Ralph --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files,8 Gig (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2567 To: JASON FESLER Date: 02/07/94 7:17p Subj: Re: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jason Fesler wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: JF> I've got a few friends that are all blind. The high ascii JF> doesn't do squat for them unless they specifically tell it JF> to. They pleasantly ignore the high ascii, unless they are Hi Jason. That may be true for many blind users, but I don't think all adaptive equipment is the same in terms of capabilities, and part- icularly so if they're having to use older equipment. Kind of the same concept as that not all computers are capable of displaying ANSI codes, most notably older non-DOS computers and/or operating systems. Kind of boils down to the effect of trying to comply with the least common denominator to allow the majority of systems and users to participate & interact within Cyberspace. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2568 To: RUSSELL NABER Date: 02/07/94 6:41a Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RN> Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe RN> index file, i.e. have RN> upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's RN> idx-dup file? Russell, From the sound of your message you missed the announcement about PCFU the replacement program for PCUtils, you can freq it here using the magic name PCFU, I think you will be pleasently surprised what it will do. John --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2569 To: ALL Date: 02/07/94 6:00p Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but can't remember exactly how late. Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time... Is this what we call progress? <-grin-> -=<-Katherine->=- --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2570 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 9:31p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at all. If > you disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy of the ASCII > spec that says so. My copy of the spec lists only 7 bit characters. You are correct in this regard. The 'standard' ASCII set goes from 0-127 decimal. Anything above 127 is considered 'block graphic' or 'special' character set. It is my undertsanding, though, that Fido permits the special character set, but is not encouraged because some technologies do not support these.. I'm sure that a quick look in P4 will set things right. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2571 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 11:47a Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mark Krieg writes: MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging MK> as a hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? We plan on switching; once switched, and after the hardware is paid off (should take about 3 months, at $2/mo per node), we plan on dropping the cost to fifty cents a month. It's nice to be in a large net, with a _working CRP.. :-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g1+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 2572 To: ALL Date: 02/07/94 11:46a Subj: GIGO (Was: Remote Access and Pcusenet) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Bill Wolf writes: BW> But I don't know how well GIGO works under DV, as I'm not BW> running it here.. This Lan system does work much better BW> than it probably would of under Desqview. There is a support forum available for GIGO; contact me for details. There are _several_ people running DV and GIGO at the same time. One thing to make sure is that you are giving GIGO the EMS it wants, in your DV setup. Leaving the field blank is not good enough. :-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-g1+ * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HARRY MOYLES Number: 2573 To: TBBS SYSOPS Date: 02/06/94 2:05p Subj: PIMP AND PC INTERNET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I would like to know who is using pimp and pc internet files. How hard was it to set up? Who do you have to talk to, to get a internet name? Do you get a internet name for the bbs and one for your self? Is Planet Connect going to accept internet uploads soon? I heard that pc was going to charge 20.00 amonth extra for internet stuff any truth to it? Will they issue names or do I have to go to a gate?? Thanks harry.. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Evans BBS,6 gigs,16 cdroms,1 Satellite Dish,616-754-6180 (1:228/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 2574 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 8:02a Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK>I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a >hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? MK>Thanks... MK>............................................................... >. Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 . >. Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| . >. York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | . >. 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] . >...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo.. >--- > * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) $5.00 a month for small/normal size net. for big net $2.50 a month per downlink for echos --- þ QMPro 1.52 þ SOMETIMES I WAKE UP GROUCHY, SOMETIMES I LET HER SLEEP --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2575 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/07/94 2:26p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups > that Planet Connect caries? I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get one, let me know so I can come get a copy, okay? __ \/ dj --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2576 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 02/07/94 5:03p Subj: SATELLITE DISH/PLANNET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tracy! Sunday January 23 1994 18:33, Tracy Mickley wrote to David Unfried: TM> ask for Boyd or Jerry since then if he answers. PC's biggest issue with TM> the article was that they all had to go out and buy new crayons for TM> the installation doc's. I know Jim (the person in our net with the dish) was grumping for days. :-) David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2577 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/07/94 5:05p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried: DP> David, DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask. Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a return path be established has been one of my questions.... I guess it is a lot of other peoples. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2578 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 5:16p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! Saturday February 05 1994 12:32, Mark Krieg wrote to All: MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? Our net charges a flat $5 a month unlimited traffic payable quarterly. This amount was established based on landline (phone) charges a few years ago. Eventually, we hope to reduce the fee once the investment for the dish is paid off. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2579 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 5:24p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tye! Friday February 04 1994 14:42, Tye Hammerle wrote to John Lyon: TH> system when I get twenty files ticked in and ALLFIX doesn't know what to TH> do with them. Allfix doesn't know how to do much of anything other than break downlink systems. Every new "beta" release amazes me with what they do to annoy anyone running the original TICK and RAID, and other third party authors are forced to release a work-around. The latest release adds a verb which completely breaks RAID. The politest thing I can say about Allfix is "used programmer food". TH> We get a semi standard way of doing business and some group TH> decides to go off on their own.......wellp you got me there, ranting on SDN has been around a lot longer than Planet Connect, and most sysops for that fact. They were distributed using the .SDN and .SDA extensions when I joined Fidonet and applied for a SDN node number three years ago. TH> about nothing.. but I feel better now... :) Now I gotta figure out how TH> to automate processing the *.SDN files. Got any ideas, other than DEL TH> *.SDN ? I have two programs for my BBS that will not only import the DIZ descriptions, but also convert back to the standard format. I have seen these utilities for other BBS systems. I agree that the SDA and SDN extensions are inconvenient, but I have always found the network to contain worthwhile releases and a good resource for myself and my users. I'm glad they are available on Planet Connect. As for missing tic files, that's a problem caysed by PC or their source, not SDN. When I polled Las Vegas for these files I never missed a TIC. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2580 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/07/94 5:37p Subj: New Here Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tye! Friday February 04 1994 18:18, Tye Hammerle wrote to John Hrusovszky: TH> Sure is, you should be able to run ALLFIX or another file processor (if TH> one exists ;) There are, and better ones too, including free and reliable programs RAID and TICK. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2581 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/07/94 8:03p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Dave! Hello Dave! Monday February 7 1994 17:05, David Unfried wrote to Dave Petrucci: > Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried: > DP> David, > DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask. > Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a > return path be established has been one of my questions.... I > guess it is a lot of other peoples. And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I have heard rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in the sysop echos of three different networks! __ \/ dj --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2582 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/07/94 7:08p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Paul Cormier wrote in a message to All: PC> Hi, PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries? i think that pcusenet.txt is that list. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2583 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 4:51a Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mark, I went with flat rate of $10.00/mo but there are none of the files included with that, just mail. * Gary * --- * RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2584 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/07/94 2:53a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Al! Saturday February 05 1994 22:18, Al Hays wrote to John Souvestre: >> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4, >> mail can only be routed by agreement. AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail Hub, AH> by definition, has agreed to route mail. They've only agreed to route echomail.. Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 2585 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/07/94 10:43p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Floyd! Sunday February 06 1994 01:31, Floyd Drennon wrote to John Souvestre: JS>> And the Gateway Policy ... period. FD> When was that ratified as required by P4? What's required by P4? Rick --- GoldED 2.41+ * Origin: DataNet * Erlanger, KY * (606) 727-DNET (FidoNet 1:108/90) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE PATTERSON Number: 2586 To: ANYONE Date: 02/06/94 8:45a Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Anyone. :{) Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect? Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT? Thanks in advance for your help. :{) --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: EVERGREEN ONE, Cashmere Wa. ZyXEL E+ 19.2 (509) 782-4259 (1:344/91) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2587 To: ALL Date: 02/08/94 10:13p Subj: Session level passwords and PKT passwords. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everyone. Starting 02/08/94 we have switch over to a new version of our mailer that has an unsecure inbound for systems that that call and do not have a session level password with us. If you notice that your address is not in the stats or your mail is not getting out then there are one of three things happening. 1- You have 1:3615/51 added to the seenbys. This means your message will not make it over the sat. 2- Your PKT's have 3615/51 in the header as the originating node. This must stop. 3615/51 should not even be in the stats as having received mail from it. It is ok to send the compressed bundles with that address derived from it but not the PKT's. More than likely these systems have 51 added in the seenbys and are not getting over the sat. Rule of thumb. If you do not get the same message back off the satellite that your system sent to me as a dupe then you have something not set up right. If you are a Planet Connect receiving system please active the PCSTATS area as READ ONLY and you will get daily starts of what and who is passeing stuff thru us. 3- you do not have a session level password set up and this mail has to be manualy tosses and so there will be a delay in it getting out. If you dont have one set up with me netmail me with one and I will set it up here. PACKET PASSWORDS. Do to a few tossers out there having problems with the PASSWORD in the PTK's coming off of the satellite, we will be removing this from the PKT's starting Sunday the 13th. Please make sure you remove the password from any of your tossers for 3615/50. On sunday's transmission *ALL* bundles will be without a password. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2588 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/07/94 11:12p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Darren! Monday February 07 1994 20:03, Darren Hanson wrote to David Unfried: >> Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a >> return path be established has been one of my questions.... I >> guess it is a lot of other peoples. DH> And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I have DH> heard rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in the DH> sysop echos of three different networks! __ \/ dj This is an issue that I find myself having to take the side of PC on this only because I am interested in the continued health of the concern. I am against censorship, and have agreed in the past to route echos and newsgroups that turn my stomach or offend my personal values. Nonetheless I recognize others' needs for communication, and have tried to accomodate others without judging them. (I have received some pretty bizarre netmail from people making assumptions based on seen-bys!) I have had absolutely no discussions with PC folks, but I can guess what they are up against. Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. Furthermore, they have not put any controls into effect on who distributes their feeds once back on the ground. Regardless of the "dongle" key, they have probably not verified the age of their customers, and have not devised a way to encode these sections separately. The possibility exists that explicit or obscene (as interpreted by local courts in various areas of the county) material could get in the hands of people under 18. Here's the rub. We have all kinds of protection using private point to point phone line connections but "broadcasting" over satellite is different. Even if the chances are remote and other services "are doing it" my guess is they are reluctant to mess with it and become vulerable. I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can see problems with carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen in the past, including alt.vomit.fondle and alt.sex.bestiality. (g) David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2589 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/08/94 9:07a Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4. JS> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per P4, JS> mail can only be routed by agreement. AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail AH> Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail. jb> I don't *think* so, Al... jb> You can't just drop Routed NetMail off at a HUBs door and expect them to jb> route it on up-stream. WAKE UP! We weren't discussing Netmail, john. jb> I handle routed NetMail for Net147.. And if someone from Net234 dropped jb> off NetMail addressed to someone within Net147 I'd have to route it by jb> virtue of my NC hat... But if that same person from Net234 dropped off jb> NetMail addressed to Net345 without prior arrangement, I have no jb> obligation to route it on... But you would have an obligation to return it under P4, Section 2.1.7. jb> An echomail HUB does NOT *HAVE* to route NetMail.. Never said they did. An Echomail Hub must route all traffic that it has previously agreed to route ... i.e. Echomail. Failure to route a specific message because you don't like the content (like 8 bit charachters) does not release an echomail Hub from their responsibility of returning the message under P4. The argument over whether Netmail == Echomail is not applicable. Section 2.1.7 states "traffic", which Echomail certianly is, and describes responsibility or returning an undelivered "messsage", which Echomail certianly is. It does not differentiate between the type of "traffic" or "message" being transmitted. Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2590 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/09/94 3:23a Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to All, Katherine Schroeder said: KS>Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? KS> KS>It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it KS>came in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as KS>well but can't remember exactly how late. KS> Well, the .TIC came in on time. Does that count? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN COOK Number: 2591 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/07/94 1:31p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? $1.00 per node per month is a real world example. In a net with 180 nodes, that makes for a good payback yet keeps the participants costs at about 1/2th the prior CRP rate. A node in our network which has a dish has offered to feed our NEC for the above mentioned $1/node/month until the net is able to get its own dish (real soon now). At that rate it's still quite a win-win deal. - Dan --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2592 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 02/07/94 4:59p Subj: Remote Access and Pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ed Thanks for the info. After I read your original message again I saw where you stated that you were running 4dos. So and I tried it and it worked. Thanks for your help Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHEILA LENNON Number: 2593 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/08/94 1:22a Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mark Krieg (1:270/612) on Sat, Feb 05, wrote: MK>I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a MK>hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? We're giving it away free to any sysop who agrees to pass it on free to all callers, and to allow enough daily time online so even nonsubscribing 2400-baud callers can make use of them. Planet Connect has made free public access possible. It's an investment we couldn't refuse, and the timing couldn't have been better. We dubbed our project Radio Free Echomail. I bought the dish, and a core group of about a dozen sysops are donating time, skills, spare parts and opinions (!) to make it work. Being part of this experiment in cooperation may be the biggest fringe benefit of all. --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: - Art of the Possible - Providence (401) 421-2218 (1:323/109.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2594 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/08/94 4:24a Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite transmissions. However, the explanation of the STATUS indicators in the blue sheet documentation doesn't seem to match what I'm seeing on the display. Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations? Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 2595 To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 02/08/94 11:13a Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? Net 381 shares actual costs (including the PC feed fee) plus $2 a month for a hardware fund to build up our dedciated mail hub. Last months bill was $7.90 (which will go down once the phone line installation is paid for). We have about 25 out of 40 systems participating. --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC KRICHBAUM Number: 2596 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 11:55a Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 07 Feb 94 18:00:00, Katherine Schroeder muttered something to Al KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? KS> KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came in, and I KS> vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but can't remember exactly KS> how late. KS> KS> Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time... KS> KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin-> KS> KS> -=<-Katherine->=- KS> --- GEcho 1.02+ KS> * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221) The TIC file for it came through but not the file. I grabbed it off the internet at ftp.fidonet.org. Freqable here as NODEDIFF 1:277/1, 23 ZyXel 19.200 speeds 1:277/21, 22, 25 16.8 Duals 1:277/24 Boca 14.4 v32b Eric --- * Origin: The Tek Room Node 1 (304)292-4744 (1:277/1) --- QM v1.26/b * Origin: Planet Systems Inc. Newport Tn. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF BOWMAN Number: 2597 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/08/94 7:48a Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! In a message to All <02/05/94> Mark Krieg wrote: MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? $40 / MONTH <, Lee Bonnifield writes: LB>Do you want me to refer them to your BBS? Please say so by sending me LB>netmail, with your BBS phone number and location. Lee, a good number of us are mail hubs without local user bases. The TVAGENT stuff dies on the downlink system. So far you, or whomever, have decided we can't net feed this stuff on to any other systems that support users. Whomever that person is remains completely blind to the possibilities of the media. I feed mail to between 80 and 120 nodes in the Memphis area and would be happy to net forward this stuff on to those who wish to subscribe. Tell that 'whomever' to wake up. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2599 To: TOM JONES Date: 02/08/94 11:44a Subj: Re: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TJ> PC> Has anyone been able to =succesfully= run their Planet TJ> PC> Connect system TJ> PC> within DESQview? TJ>Finally got it going here. I have a 486-DX-66 for the BBS TJ>machine, and am using a 386-DX-40 dedicated to the satellite. TJ>I run DV on both machines and they are tied together via So like that you're running DESQview on two servers, right? Which versions of software are you using, and what type of cards? I've been hesitating on upgrading DESQview because I've read so many messages from SysOp who have returned to DV 2.42 because of numerous lock ups... Paul * OLX 2.1 TD * Uh oh. Your zip file is open! --- WM v3.10/92-0414 * Origin: -ð CompuBBS ð- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2600 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/08/94 11:45a Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF>PC> Has anyone been able to =succesfully= run their Planet MF>PC> Connect system within DESQview? MF>Yep! That's the _only_ way ours has run since last fall. MF>It is running on a 386DX/40 with 16550's on the serial ports, X00 loaded BEF MF>DESQview, DRDOS 6, and, of course, DV. How many nodes are you running, and which version of DV are you using? Thanks, Paul VE1POL * OLX 2.1 TD * Well I'll be RAM'ed --- WM v3.10/92-0414 * Origin: -ð CompuBBS ð- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 2601 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/08/94 1:47p Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another satellite connected board in Florida, and downloaded it. It also has crc errors. Anyone else get this? Tick puked when it came through and marked it bad...so --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2602 To: PLANET CONNECT Date: 02/07/94 1:01p Subj: Update pcusenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No When are you guys going to update the list. On your list - of all the areas - 722 areas have not come thru yet and 900 + are not even listed. Of all messages sent - only 500 of the areas had more then 10 messages in them. I would guess that there is very little control in the way newsgroups are setup. I have 2300 areas of which 1700 are now of passthru status for lack of messages. If anybody would like a copy of my squish.cfg they are welcome to it(Instead of wasting your time as I have done). But what the heck - its 40 below and not a whole lot more to do. P.S. If you have OS/2 I have some great rexx scripts for PC. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2603 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 11:10p Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Katherine Schroeder to All *** KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? KS> KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came KS> in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but KS> can't remember exactly how late. KS> KS> Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on KS> time... KS> KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin-> KS> KS> -=<-Katherine->=- Take a pill babe! Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2604 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/08/94 2:30a Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Don! 06 Feb 94 06:52, Don Waybright wrote to Mike Labbe: DW> In a message Mike Labbe to Robert Hilgar it was said: DW> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail DW> processor handle these? I honestly do not know... I have always DW> associated such files extentions with offline readers... Pardon DW> my ignorance in this matter! Nope... what you use depends on the bbs type you are using... If it wildcat i think you can use tnet... if remote access or another compabilte bbs there a utility called mkutil or something like that,,, But bascily what these programs due is toss the qwk pack into your message base. most mail tossers will not do this.. because the qwk packets are not fts packets... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2605 To: DAN COOK Date: 02/09/94 1:19a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 06, Dan Cook of 1:202/344 wrote to John Souvestre: JS> Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged. DC> Re-origination is quite a popular form of screwup these days. We DC> see new nodes blasting out re-originated messages by the DC> thousands for days on end. I would not mind seeing the stars DC> delete any echomail message with more than ONE origin line. You'd be surprised to find out how many people feel that doing that would be far too aggressive. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2606 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/09/94 1:24a Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 07, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to John Souvestre: JS> Not all Hubs agree to the same terms. If there was only JS> ONE set of terms, then you would be able to post them JS> here, right? AH> Policy simply and clearly states ROUTING. It says nothing about AH> "terms." Routing is routing, John. If know of multiple AH> definitions of "routing" under Policy 4, then I'd like you to AH> point out the applicable sections to me. You've defeated yourself, Al. There are *no* such definitions in P4 because P4 doesn't dictate the terms. The parties to the agreement decide the terms. But since you think that there is only one type of routing agreement, then please tell me what you thing the answers are to some of the following routing issues: - Cost-sharing. Can I refuse to route for you if you don't contribute to my cost-sharing plan? Where does P4 define how my cost-sharing plan works? - Do I have to route your outgoing netmail? - Do I have to route any echo you want, even though I don't want to carry it? What if I have to make an extra call to get that "TALK_DIRTY" echo that you want? Oh, you only want Backbone echoes? Where does P4 define the Backbone? - What technical specs does your echomail have to conform to? P4 doesn't mention anything beyond FTS-0001. For example, there's this thing called GroupMail... I think that you should have the idea by now. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2607 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 02/09/94 1:38a Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chris. > Characters with the "hi bit" (the 8th bit) aren't ASCII at > all. If you disagree then I challenge you to send me a copy > of the ASCII spec that says so. My copy of the spec lists > only 7 bit characters. CW> You are correct in this regard. The 'standard' ASCII set goes CW> from 0-127 decimal. Anything above 127 is considered 'block CW> graphic' or 'special' character set. OK. :-) CW> It is my undertsanding, CW> though, that Fido permits the special character set, but is not CW> encouraged because some technologies do not support these.. I'm CW> sure that a quick look in P4 will set things right. It's more a matter of "if P4 doesn't ban it then it's OK". :-) Within a given echo it's up to the Moderator. For Backbone echoes, the Hubs appreciate it if you stick to alpha characters in the control fields. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALTER CADE Number: 2608 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 01/30/94 8:50p Subj: Re: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> it would be very nice to be able to send the news groups back thru -> you..say..in pkt form...if we could have a standardized echo tag list -> for our areas.bbs it would be great...if i have to pay holonet -> $10 to $15 a month for return mail then why not pay you and make only -> phone call a night..like you said..another nightmare for you.. -> btw how are we coming on getting circuitnet up on the bird? -> jery I agree with you and we all know Boyd needs soem more nightmares . I expect when PC gets all the feed coming thru. They will look into this. Besides it would only make sense, but I'll bet they have plenty to do for now. Walter --- WM v3.10/93-0997 * Origin: Arti BBS (903) 758-ARTI Multi-Line 28,8 Hayes V.fc (1:398/2.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE GENTRY Number: 2609 To: MURRY FRANCIS Date: 02/08/94 10:57p Subj: Re: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Murry Francis to Tye Hammerle <=- MF> If you are using ALLfix, than a quick look at the doc's will tell MF> you that you can convert the *.SDN to any format you command it too. Murry, I just pick up a copy of ALLfix the other day, and found it really hard to set up. I am running Binkley with Qmail and would love to get some help on the control files for ALLfix (ie the ones that ASETUP builds) Could I get a copy of yours less any passwords to look at? Any thing at this point will help, Let me know and I will poll your system for the stuff. Also anyone else running ALLfix please feel free to jump in here... Thanks for your help in this project, at this point I don't remember what my Wife looks like.... ....Dave Gentry MF> -!- GEcho 1.02/InterMail MF> ! Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: G.A.D.M. 4-lines TBBS Hayward,CA.(510) 581-3019 (1:215/208) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 2610 To: ALL Date: 02/08/94 11:39a Subj: Usatoday Pcboard Ppl Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Freq: USAPPL from 1:14/644 to get the quick release of our PCBoard USAToday online reader (PPL). This will get PCBoard BBS's up and running the USAToday Decisionline as quick as possible with a nifty user interface - and look for a full blown door to be out for ALL BBS types in the very near future.. all this either free or a VERY SMALL fraction of current USAToday doors... --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB JACOBSEN Number: 2611 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/07/94 8:05p Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AH> AH> I see a potential problem here. If the missing file on pass 1 is an AH> XMAIL file (i.e. *.FR3 is missing) and you go ahead and toss *.FR0 thru AH> *.FRB, then when you go back and get *.FR3 you're going to be tossing AH> mail "out of sequence." While this isn't really a technical faux pas, AH> it could well result in the end nodes/users reading 6 replies to a AH> message *before* they get to the original question. That's a real AH> bummer and I HATE it when that happens . AH> First off a disclaimer. I don't have PC yet but have been following the discussions in an effort to understand the tricks and pitfalls of doing so. A question occurs to me. Could a program be written to move only sequencial files to the tosser? To use your example above, move *.fr0, *.fr1, *.fr2 to the tosser and then go back to find the missing files. At least that way, a partial toss could be done to get something ready for the nodes, while the PC software is picking up the missing stuff. Sure would beat waiting 8 - 12 hours for those missing files before tossing the mail. I wouldn't have a clue as to how to right such a thing. Perhaps you do? Rob --- OPMED 3.10.018/b * Origin: Rob's Wreck Room (1:3403/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2612 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/02/94 3:44a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment yet? >Mine was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the preliminary video >and 'location instruments'... > Hi Fred, yes we have had our dish up since about the first week of Jan. It was very easy. The only problem has been all the set up and changes in software. Now that was a pain :) Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, just a busy time of the year for me. --- SLMAIL v3.5 (#0999) * Origin: County Link BBS (1:157/576) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE HUSK Number: 2613 To: ALL Date: 02/09/94 9:17a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everyone, this is just a message to test our set up with Planet Connect. Steve Husk --- SLMAIL v3.5B (#0999) * Origin: County Link BBS * 216-236-6126 * 7 Nodes * (1:157/576) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2614 To: MICHAEL ERWIN Date: 02/09/94 1:26p Subj: RUNNING ON OS/2 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ME> This worked for me, but also beware that OS/2 2.0 likes ME> all the LPT lines to ME> be there. OS/2 2.1GA likes that they be there also but ME> doesn't require them. ME> Some of the cheaper LPT cards shorts pins 18-25 on the ME> DB-25 & some of the lower grade LPT cables do the same ME> thing. ME> If you still have problems contact me. Thanks, Michael, I'll check out my LPT card and try everything again. I'm sure that I'll have more questions. Since I'm using a DigiBoard 8i, I'll have to, also, mount a standard seriel card for the PTCCMAIN program and load the appropriate drivers. Are you using the standard OS/2 drivers or SIO? Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MURRY FRANCIS Number: 2615 To: ERIC KRICHBAUM Date: 02/09/94 4:20p Subj: Re: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <=> Eric Krichbaum Was Heard Saying This To Katherine Schroeder: EK>KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? EK>The TIC file for it came through but not the file. I grabbed EK>Freqable here as NODEDIFF Freqable at 1:3615/50 as nodediff.a35, I saw the mistake with the .tic and no file, and it was on Boyd's system, like all the other files you might miss in the cycle. Murry --- GEcho 1.02/InterMail * Origin: Big Rig BBS - RA/Pro - Multi Node - Akron,Oh (1:2215/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAX VONDERHORST Number: 2616 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 6:50p Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Katherine Schroeder wrote in a message to All: KS> Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? KS> It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it KS> Is this what we call progress? <-grin-> Hey! They *did* send us the .TIC file on Friday! }8^) I snared the actual file from my former backbone feed when I picked up our regional echomail Saturday at noon. I think Planet Connect found where they left it on Monday and sent it out over the bird. 'Ain't' technology GRAND.}8^) Regards, Max --- timEd-B9 * Origin: The Silver Meteor - Highballin' Orlando's Mail (1:363/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2617 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 02/09/94 6:13p Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hello Art & Boyd, -> -> -> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have b -> -> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in y -> -> database. I would like to try it without the dongle! -> -> I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the same. -> Hmmm I wonder if there is a shortage? I havent even seen what it will do as I dont want to remove the dongle from the Planet Connect machine......... Boyd or anyone here are at least two PC owners that still dont have our TVAGENT disks. --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2618 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 02/09/94 1:10p Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone: JP> Hello Anyone. :{) JP> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect? JP> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT? Yup..... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 2619 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 02/09/94 1:16p Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Jeff Cameron wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: JC> My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another JC> satellite connected board in Florida, and downloaded it. It JC> also has crc errors. Anyone else get this? Tick puked JC> when it came through and marked it bad...so I dont think so....unless you renamed the TIC from bad and then ran it thru again when the nodediff came in 3 days after the TIC did :) You should be able to file request it from your RC...... greg.shaffer@ascicorp.com --- timEd-B9 * Origin: At last! We have a *REAL* RC18 :) (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 2620 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/09/94 3:55p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Unfried wrote in a message to Darren Hanson: DU> I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can DU> see problems with carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen DU> in the past, including alt.vomit.fondle and DU> alt.sex.bestiality. (g) I can understand that, but why take a stand on these groups, is it just because they have names like that? Because you would be surprized at what goes on in fido groups that have relatively innocuous sounding names. I am not going to specifically mention what groups I have in mind, but I carry one of these groups, specifically for a user, and I have gone to great lengths so that I don't see, or read a single message in that area. --- timEd-B11 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2621 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/10/94 2:50a Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>Are you running a DV window dedicated to the PC program? DW>That I can do here also... But Let's say I am running DW>BinkleyTer, using the modem on Com1 can I get Binkley to DW>error out and Bring PC up on a different com port? I don't speak "Bink" but you can (and I used to) have FrontDoor exit on an external event and run Planet Connect. And yep, my board [1:116/205] runs on com1 while the satellite data receiver is on com2. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2622 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/10/94 2:55a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Souvestre, Floyd Drennon said: FD>Then it must have been distributed by stone tablet. 8-) Just You've reminded me of an old (ancient?) strip in the old comic "BC" where Peter is standing behind a rock marked "Post Office" and there is a customer standing in front of the rock. There is a turtle in the background with a stone tablet strapped to its back heading for parts unknown. The customer asks: "Is that the third class mail?" Peter replys: "Nope, that's the first class mail. With the third class we just throw it as far as we can and hope they find it." --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2623 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/10/94 2:59a Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Boyd Goodin, Fred Hatfield said: FH>Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite FH>transmissions. However, the explanation of the STATUS 'bout time Fred! A genuine ham radio moderator type ought to be copying in by hand! FH>indicators in the blue sheet documentation doesn't seem to FH>match what I'm seeing on the display. FH>Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations? Check QST for the latest in abbraviations. (Q signals?) 73...Mickey, WA4KDC --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2624 To: PAUL CORMIER Date: 02/10/94 3:12a Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PC>How many nodes are you running, and which version of DV are PC>you using? PC>Thanks, PC>Paul PC>VE1POL Actually, Paul, _my_ board [1:116/205] is running only one node and two windows. It does nothing but bring in the mail/files and distribute them. I'm now on my "she who must be obeyed's" board [to quote Rumpole]. So I am running exactly TWO windows. One is the board, the other is either Planet Connect or ZZZZZZZZ.BAT. My "she who must be obeyed" wrote a little ditty that "sleeps" until it is time for Boyd to start the new day of mail/files when it "wakes" up & runs Planet Connect until _everything_ is in. I honestly don't know what the DV version is....2.something, not the latest. Really, I don't think the DV version matters. From what I've seen, the main thing is to have 16550's in your serial card(s), to run your Fossil __BEFORE__ you run DV, and to have the 16550 enabled in the .INI file. 73..de..WA4KDC --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 2625 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 02/09/94 6:52p Subj: Nodediff.a35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > My nodediff.a35 had crc errors, so I called another satellite connected > board in Florida, and downloaded it. It also has crc errors. Anyone > else get this? Tick puked when it came through and marked it bad...so Mine processed fine. Just had to rename the bad tic file back to *.tic when the diff finally showed up. <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2626 To: CHARLIE CARTER Date: 02/10/94 2:42a Subj: Re: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >I just put PC up on a 286-12 as a server with LANtastic v 5.0 and use the >386 as a workstation to access it. The 286 isn't anything special (8250 >UART's - yes they work fine, 250 Mb WD IDE drive, LANtastic AE2 cards in >both machines). Charlie, You must be lucky, I put PC up on a dedicated 386SX-25 and when I accessed the machine via my LAN, the files being received got errors... I had to install a 16550 and the fixed the problem... Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5B (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 2627 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/08/94 11:13p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups > that Planet Connect caries? DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself DH> with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get DH> one, let me know so I can come get a copy, okay? I'll shoot you a squish.cfg if that's OK. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2628 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/09/94 10:26p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As per >>> P4, mail can only be routed by agreement. AH> That statement shows a total lack of forethought, John. An echomail AH> Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail. RA> They've only agreed to route echomail.. EXACTLY ... and since Echomail is all that we were discussing you have confirmed my statement. Al --- DB 1.53/002765 * Origin: Mystic Pharos - 16.8k HST/V.32 terbo 21.6k (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN COOK Number: 2629 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/06/94 4:57p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> Messages with multiple origin lines are generally dupes, not grunged. Re-origination is quite a popular form of screwup these days. We see new nodes blasting out re-originated messages by the thousands for days on end. I would not mind seeing the stars delete any echomail message with more than ONE origin line. Hitting the NEXT key 30 or 40 times in every echo the bozo node caries is always such a royal pain. Either that, or ban VFIDO . - Dan --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: OS/2 Desktop @ 619-743-2511 (1:202/344) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 2630 To: ART MACK Date: 02/07/94 10:00a Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Art & Boyd, -> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have been -> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in your -> database. I would like to try it without the dongle! I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the same. Regards, Hans --- PCBoard 15.1 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 25 Lines 299-9900. Region Hub Calgary (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AL HAYS Number: 2631 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 8:56p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> Only if they have agreed to handle such mail to start with. As JS> per P4, mail can only be routed by agreement. AH> An echomail Hub, by definition, has agreed to route mail. JS> Not all Hubs agree to the same terms. If there was only JS> ONE set of terms, then you would be able to post them JS> here, right? Policy simply and clearly states ROUTING. It says nothing about "terms." Routing is routing, John. If know of multiple definitions of "routing" under Policy 4, then I'd like you to point out the applicable sections to me. Al --- * Origin: Mystic Pharos BBS - HST/V32/V42b (1:363/89) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2632 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/06/94 4:58p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mark! 05 Feb 94 12:32, Mark Krieg wrote to All: MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? MK> Thanks... if your are a local node $10.00 a month. Long disatance nodes $5.00 a month. Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2633 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/07/94 8:31p Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Mickey Ferguson to Paul Cormier it was said: MF> It is running on a 386DX/40 with 16550's on the serial MF> ports, X00 loaded BEFORE DESQview, DRDOS 6, and, of course, MF> DV. Are you running a DV window dedicated to the PC program? That I can do here also... But Let's say I am running BinkleyTer, using the modem on Com1 can I get Binkley to error out and Bring PC up on a different com port? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2634 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 9:46p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John, 07 Feb 94, 01:55, John Souvestre wrote to Floyd Drennon: FD>> When was that ratified as required by P4? JS> I don't know, Floyd. It was before my time. I understand that the JS> IC does consider it "in effect". Then it must have been distributed by stone tablet. 8-) Just because he wishes it was part of policy doesn't make it so. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2635 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/08/94 2:56p Subj: UpCheck Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Monday February 07 1994, John Morano writes to Russell Naber: RN>> Al, How about adding code to check PCUtils program's dupe RN>> index file, i.e. have RN>> upcheck check files in a inbound directory against PCUtil's RN>> idx-dup file? JM> Russell, From the sound of your message you missed the announcement about JM> PCFU the replacement program for PCUtils, you can freq it here using the JM> magic name PCFU, I think you will be pleasently surprised what it will do. JM> John JM> -+- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ JM> + Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) I'm not surprised, considering the missed stuff occansionally here and fine tuning bat files. Russell --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2636 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 02/07/94 9:54p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I get 100 % participation in cost sharing here in net 233 to cover th -> costs. Hi Hector. Long time since I talked to you. Say hi for me to all the people over in 233. --MArtin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2637 To: ART MACK Date: 02/07/94 9:55p Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> As well you should...I guess Mrs Bobbit thought there was no use for -> which was why she removed it. She said it was a _majority_ decission. I thought she said it was a HARD decision...... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2638 To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/07/94 9:58p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN... -> -> how about FORMAT C: That should be: ECHO Y|FORMAT C: --Grin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 2639 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/07/94 3:07p Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle -> these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files -> extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter! Absolutely - a QWK mail processor will handle them. Which BBS software are you using? --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: Eagles Nest BBS - Providence, RI USA - 401-732-5290 (1:323/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2640 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/08/94 9:25p Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 07-Feb-94, Katherine Schroeder <1:3802/221> writes to All in PLANET_CONNET: > Has Nodediff.A35 made it to the Planet Connect yet? > It's 3 days late... Nodediff.A28 was two days late when it came > in, and I vaguely remember Nodediff.A14 being late as well but > can't remember exactly how late. > Sheesh... Landline delivery of the nodediff's were usually on time... > Is this what we call progress? <-grin-> It seems to me that the nodediff should be distributed via the *C chain, else how can the *Cs be confident that the {nodes, nets} in their segment of the nodelist have not gone off the air? --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LISA GRONKE Number: 2641 To: MICHAEL REEVES Date: 02/08/94 9:26p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 07-Feb-94, Michael Reeves writes to Mark Krieg: > MSGID: 1:238/150 86427555 > $5.00 a month for small/normal size net. for big net $2.50 > a month per downlink for echos > --- > X QMPro 1.52 X SOMETIMES I WAKE UP GROUCHY, SOMETIMES I LET HER SLEEP > > > --- WM v3.10/93-0334 > * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) > PATH: 238/150 3615/50 396/1 209/209 105/30 54 The node ID in your Origin line seems to have gone missing.... --- QM v1.30 * Origin: JOBS-BBS, Portland, Oregon (503) 281-6808 (1:105/54.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2642 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 4:22a Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <07 Feb 94 14:26:00>, Darren Hanson (1:103/271) writes: DH>> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups DH>> that Planet Connect caries? DH> DH>I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself with DH>absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get one, let me DH>know so I can come get a copy, okay? There appears to be a list sent with every block of UseNet newsgroups transmitted. Look for PCUSENET.TXT. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2643 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/09/94 1:07p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Rick, 07 Feb 94, 22:43, Rick Ashworth wrote to Floyd Drennon: JS>>> And the Gateway Policy ... period. FD>> When was that ratified as required by P4? RA> What's required by P4? Ratification of any policy that supplements or expands the requirements of P4 itself. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2644 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/09/94 1:09p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi David, 07 Feb 94, 23:12, David Unfried wrote to Darren Hanson: DU> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless DU> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. Then why is a dongle required? In other words, it makes no difference who *can* receive it if they can't use it after they receive it. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2645 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 6:34p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Paul Cormier, Darren Hanson said: > > Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups > > that Planet Connect caries? > I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks > myself with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do > happen to get one, let me know so I can come get a copy, > okay? > __ > \/ dj > --- FMail 0.94 > * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen > here! (1:103/271) If you are running Planet_Connect you should have a list in your newsgrp dir. Its called pcusenet.txt. If you arent. I have it here on my new uploads dir. file area 53. PCUSENET.TXT... Gill Blue --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2646 To: ALL Date: 02/09/94 11:14p Subj: Session level passwords and PKT passwords. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello everyone. Starting 02/08/94 we have switch over to a new version of our mailer that has an unsecure inbound for systems that that call and do not have a session level password with us. If you notice that your address is not in the stats or your mail is not getting out then there are one of three things happening. 1- You have 1:3615/51 added to the seenbys. This means your message will not make it over the sat. 2- Your PKT's have 3615/51 in the header as the originating node. This must stop. 3615/51 should not even be in the stats as having received mail from it. It is ok to send the compressed bundles with that address derived from it but not the PKT's. More than likely these systems have 51 added in the seenbys and are not getting over the sat. Rule of thumb. If you do not get the same message back off the satellite that your system sent to me as a dupe then you have something not set up right. If you are a Planet Connect receiving system please active the PCSTATS area as READ ONLY and you will get daily starts of what and who is passeing stuff thru us. 3- you do not have a session level password set up and this mail has to be manualy tosses and so there will be a delay in it getting out. If you dont have one set up with me netmail me with one and I will set it up here. PACKET PASSWORDS. Do to a few tossers out there having problems with the PASSWORD in the PTK's coming off of the satellite, we will be removing this from the PKT's starting Sunday the 13th. Please make sure you remove the password from any of your tossers for 3615/50. On sunday's transmission *ALL* bundles will be without a password. Now this is for PKT's ONLY! A session level password for return mail sessions is still REQUIRED! ....Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GILL BLUE Number: 2647 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/09/94 7:29p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Paul Cormier, Guy VanDell said: > Paul Cormier wrote in a message to All: > PC> Hi, > PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet > PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries? > i think that pcusenet.txt is that list. > --- timEd-B11 > * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) PCUSENET.TXT is what you need... Gill --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Multimedia Connection Opp, Al (205) 565-3122 (1:18/16) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HAROLD CARLSON Number: 2648 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 2:28a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to David Unfried, Darren Hanson said: DH>3615/50 3615/51 DH> > Hello Dave! DH>Hello Dave! DH>Monday February 7 1994 17:05, David Unfried wrote to Dave DH>Petrucci: DH> > Sunday January 23 1994 16:25, Dave Petrucci wrote to David Unfried: DH> > DP> David, DH> > DP> If you have any questions go ahead and ask. DH> > Thanks. Exactly how the newsgroup feed would work and would a DH> > return path be established has been one of my questions.... I DH> > guess it is a lot of other peoples. DH>And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the DH>feed. I have heard rumblings about Planet Connect DH>"censoring" the UseNet traffic in the sysop echos of three DH>different networks! DH>__ DH>\/ dj Why What about the state and Fed law on thoughs Echo's. So why get Involed with something that can hurt you sooner or later. keep it clean and simple works for me ! --- * Origin: Back Woods BBS (1:322/572) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2649 To: DARREN HANSON Date: 02/09/94 10:53a Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Darren Hanson wrote in a message to Paul Cormier: > Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups > that Planet Connect caries? DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks DH> myself with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do DH> happen to get one, let me know so I can come get a copy, DH> okay? Strange, Darren, but every day we see a file called PCUSENET.TXT in our newsgroups directory that contains just such a list and it was that list that we used to create our active.map file. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 2650 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/09/94 4:25p Subj: Fidonet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a hub fee -> for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? Hi Mark We have about 10 local nodes calling here and charge a modest $8 per month. This may be lowered to $6 in the near future. For the $8, we're offering Providence a 10+ node high speed reliable mail server with unlimited feeds and very few busy signals. The processing of packets and satellite collection are done on dedicated machines. The investment was made by us, with a long term recovery expected. Mike --- QScan v1.06b * Origin: Eagles Nest BBS - Providence, RI USA - 401-732-5290 (1:323/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2651 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/10/94 6:11a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <07 Feb 94 23:12:22>, David Unfried (1:103/355) writes: DU>Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless DU>service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. DU>Furthermore, they have not put any controls into effect on who DU>distributes their feeds once back on the ground. Regardless of the But the wireless signal is that same information that has been carried on the telephone lines. And the government has been paying funds to carry those same conferences on telephone lines for years. It's a lot easier for a youngster to get to those messages with his home computer rather than setting up a satellite receiving system. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2652 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 02/10/94 6:21a Subj: Re: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <02 Feb 94 03:44:00>, STEVE HUSK (1:157/576) writes: SH>>I'm anxious to get started also. Have you received your equipment SH>>yet? Mine was supposed to be shipped on the 18th -- I got the SH>>preliminary video and 'location instruments'... SH> SH>Hi Fred, yes we have had our dish up since about the first week of Jan. SH> It was very easy. The only problem has been all the set up and SH>changes in software. Now that was a pain :) Sorry it took me so long SH>to get back to you, just a busy time of the year for me. No problem, Steve. Since the above message, I've had a shipment delay due to the bad weather and I've also gotten my system set up and copying data -- with the help of some terrific folks. But I'm having trouble rationalizing the STATUS indicators with the documentation. They don't seem to recognize each other.... Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DARREN HANSON Number: 2653 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 02/10/94 12:42p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet newsgroups >> that Planet Connect caries? > DH> I doubt it. I've been trying to get such a list for weeks myself > DH> with absolutely no luck whatsoever! But if you do happen to get > DH> one, let me know so I can come get a copy, okay? > I'll shoot you a squish.cfg if that's OK. Got it the other day. Thanks! __ \/ dj --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: The Otter Limits: Queer things are known to happen here! (1:103/271) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROB NELSON Number: 2654 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 02/09/94 12:21p Subj: TV AGENT DEMO IS READY Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Maybe I can ask yoy to send my TVAGENT disk via the mail, I have been -> promised it several times over the phone. You have my address in your -> database. I would like to try it without the dongle! HH> I've experienced the same and I'm still waiting too for the HH> same. I wonder if any Canadian subscribers have received the TVAgent disk yet. I'm another who is still waiting..... Cheers, Rob --- * Origin: The Exchange, Prince George BC (604)962-5971 V32.bis (1:359/200) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2655 To: ALL Date: 02/10/94 12:42a Subj: PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! I had PC up and running on my old machine just fine... I just received my new machine and it's running.... Files are coming in... Final status of "PH" But if i exit out of the program and go check the file dir: C:\Planetc\Bridge\Files there are no files there! Does the Key or the software "know" I have changed machines and killing the files off? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2656 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 02/10/94 9:29p Subj: Qwk's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Mike Labbe to Don Waybright it was said: -> With these QWK's and such I am receiving now... Can a mail processor handle -> these? I honestly do not know... I have always associated such files -> extentions with offline readers... Pardon my ignorance in this matter! ML> Absolutely - a QWK mail processor will handle them. Which ML> BBS software are you using? I am running Maximus with good ole Squish and Squish style message bases... But *.Msg areas can be used also... Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2657 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/10/94 9:30p Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Mickey Ferguson to Don Waybright it was said: MF> I don't speak "Bink" but you can (and I used to) have MF> FrontDoor exit on an external event and run Planet Connect. MF> And yep, my board [1:116/205] runs on com1 while the MF> satellite data receiver is on com2. Ok.... so you have FD (I use to speak FD'ish) exit out (and was on Com1 and Have PC's stuff fire up on COM2... Are you telling DV to use comm ports? Rds, -=Don=- --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2658 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/11/94 9:25p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 10, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to John Souvestre: GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size. JS> "Explictly"? Please provide a quote. GC> John, because ... let's graduate from the games :-) In other words, you can't back up what you said. ===== GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x JS> That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail JS> processor delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a JS> dupe? Does it use ANY method other than the seen-bys? Where in JS> the specs is this method defined? GC> Now damned if I haven't lost my copy of Policy 4. I was convinced GC> that dupes were in fact identified. If it doesn't I'll concede GC> the point as reasonable but not nearly compelling. In the meantime GC> I'll go find myself another copy to verify. I await your reply. GC> As for my tosser, it does use Seen-bys, and whether it uses other GC> methods is irrelevant, because other methods of identifying -dupes- GC> I believe is not inconsistent with policy. It seems that your previous statement was not quite accurate. ===== GC> ... but what I mean is "deal with the large msg without crashing GC> the system or negatively affecting other mail." ... GC> GEcho certainly will cope any size msg, truncating that which it GC> is incapable of tossing and preserving the header so the sender GC> may be alerted. Your mail processor "copes" with large messages by modifying them. Certainly you must realize that this is in violation of P4, Section 2.1.5, unless there is a technical basis for it. Oops, you've already said that there was NO technical reason, however, haven't you? ===== GC> Well instead of a bunch of us going through this again, would you GC> do us the courtesy of announcing *in*detail* to what exactly is it GC> that you, as our major link to the non-PC Fidonet nodes, are agreeing? My agreement is BOP 1.03. ===== Bottom line: - You criticize Hubs for what you, yourself do. - In spite of statements like "The specs also *explictly* provide that ..." now it seems that you are unable to support your statements or even find a copy of Policy 4, FTS-0001, FTS-004 or BOP - the four documents most important to echomail and the Backbone. Perhaps now you can see that the issue of "what to delete" is *far* from a simple black-and-white issue. They are many of grey areas and a constant weighing of the benefit vs cost tradeoffs when making such decisions. So there's plenty to discuss, but I can tell you this: Anyone who takes a position at either extreme of this issue is most certainly wrong. :-) John P.S. You are welcome to FReq those four documents from me: POLICY4.ARC, FTS-0001.A15, FTS-0004.ARC and BOP_103.ARC. --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2659 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 02/11/94 8:38a Subj: Re: P C in korea Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <10 Feb 94 02:59:03>, Mickey Ferguson (1:116/210) writes: MF>FH>Hello, Boyd. Finally got my machine copying the satellite MF>FH>transmissions. However, the explanation of the STATUS MF> MF>'bout time Fred! A genuine ham radio moderator type ought to be MF>copying in by hand! I tried, but my pencil lead burned up with the speed of writing... :-) MF>FH>indicators in the blue sheet documentation doesn't seem to MF>FH>match what I'm seeing on the display. MF> MF>FH>Is there a more detailed explanation of those abbreviations? MF> MF>Check QST for the latest in abbraviations. (Q signals?) No, Mickey, I was speaking of the Status abbreviations on the PLANET CONNECT monitor. I've figured out that if there's an error in receiving, a "T" appears on the left side of the middle Status display. Then when the upper display is active for the same file, it won't get stored and either "TCH" or "TPH" appears on the upper one. The middle one also goes through a bunch of displays quickly at the end of receiving a file -- it looks like "PB" and "uT" and some others that are too fast to see. Sometimes the upper display won't store the file and displays "TCH", even when there are no errors in the middle display. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2660 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/11/94 8:56a Subj: PC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <10 Feb 94 00:42:54>, Don Waybright (1:264/100) writes: DW>I had PC up and running on my old machine just fine... I just received DW>my new machine and it's running.... Files are coming in... Final status DW>of "PH" DW> DW>But if i exit out of the program and go check the file dir: DW>C:\Planetc\Bridge\Files there are no files there! Does the Key or the DW>software "know" I have changed machines and killing the files DW>off? On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during a file reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes through without error indications. I finally learned to keep my hands off the keyboard during file reception. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2661 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/11/94 8:47a Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <10 Feb 94 05:15:01>, John Morano (1:391/1180) writes: JM>br> I just got your PCFU program over the Satellite last week was JM>br> looking to see if you are posting updates here on the BBS . I JM> JM>Keep an eye in the sky Bill, will be releasing another wide beta JM>this weekend over the bird... Just started trying to implement the PCFU program. I tried the MOV0 -fTIC -p procedure to get a description file. The text showed up on the screen just fine, but there was never a file generated. Any suggestions? Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2662 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:31a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GC> The specs also *explictly* provide that software > GC> should be able to cope with unlimited msg size. > "Explictly"? Please provide a quote. John, because you are so intimately connected with the evil GMD software, you are a harder nut to crack [grin]. Without me going through the same range of quoting that I did with the BOP, let me simply ask you as one who is a vital link in the mail flow, are you even suggesting that the spec does NOT provide for unlimited msg size? If you agree that the spec does indeed allow for unlimited size, then your challenge is spurious, for debating points only. And I know you agree about unlimited msg size, because 1) it's the truth and 2) you've publicly stated so in the past. So let's graduate from the games :-) > GC> This hobby is about communicating, not deleting communication. > You can't have effective communications when the noise level > gets too high. The problem with that, of course, is that one person's noise is anothers music. I will not accept that it is up to the volunteers to decide what will be noise and what will be music. I even have a user who was promoting something called Death Rock for a while. Just noise to me, but so what. All the better if he and his twenty cronies around the world could exchange playable tunes in their own echomail conference using 8bit chars :-) Imagine the possibilities rather than focussing on the need for limits [he cries from atop his permanent soap box] :-)) > GC> If you have deleted any mail that was not intended to end its > GC> journey on your own system, without notifying the originator of > GC> that msg, you ARE in violation of Policy 4.x > That's a very common, but incorrect, statement. Does your mail > processor delete dupes? How does it identify a message as a > dupe? Does it use ANY method other than the seen-bys? Where in > the specs is this method defined? Now damned if I haven't lost my copy of Policy 4. I was convinced that dupes were in fact identified. If it doesn't I'll concede the point as reasonable but not nearly compelling. In the meantime I'll go find myself another copy to verify. As for my tosser, it does use Seen-bys, and whether it uses other methods is irrelevant, because other methods of identifying -dupes- I believe is not inconsistent with policy. Regardless, I have mine configured to use only seen-bys so my personal habits are, I believe, completely consistent with policy. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2663 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:45a Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GC> I am not unsympathetic to people who run software that cannot > GC> cope with various things like large masgs or high ascii. But > GC> there are two simple facts: 1) such people are in a tiny minority > GC> position and 2) there are relatively trivial ways for them to > GC> cope with the problem on *their*own* system without imposing > GC> their limitations on everyone else. > "Tiny minority". Most of the mail processors I'm familiar with > will not handle a message of unlimited size. Will yours? Absolutely. I disagree with your belief about "most" mail processers. Note, I used the word "cope" and you used the word "handle." Perhaps you are trying to change meaning again, but what I mean is "deal with the large msg without crashing the system or negatively affecting other mail." The typical excuse for hub-based deletion is that some sysop claims that large size msgs hang their system, trash their msg base or some other obsenity. If that is ever the case, then these people have deep emotional problems forcing them to use software that is inherently destabalizing to one's mental health. GEcho certainly will cope any size msg, truncating that which it is incapable of tossing and preserving the header so the sender may be alerted. Now, a utility that would actually *contribute* to communication rather than facilitate it's censorship, would be one that would take such headers and create a netmail notify to the originator. Right now, if I receive an over large msg (greater than 64k I think) I have to manually notify the sender altho it has only happened once in my sysop "career." On that one occasion the sender re-issued the msg in three parts and everyone benefited. What did *not* happen was his msg get deleted and be lost to the intended recipients without their knowledge. > As a standard it's a joke. I sense that we have different views of what a spec should do. I believe they should be results-oriented and not implimentation- oriented. So instead of saying that automobiles must include a gadget of this size and composition, the "specs" say automobiles may only produce x volume of emissions. How you ensure the volume is x or less is up to you, but make sure it is in fact x or less. So when "our" specs say that mail processors should be able to cope with high "ascii," unlimited size msgs and prevent dupes, I don't care how they do it, just so long as they do. In no instance should an external program be invoked to delete that which the mail processor is incompetent to handle. Indeed, even *if* it was accepted that a majority of mail processors were "broken" according to spec, then something like GMD is a great *disservice* because it encourages broken software. Better to let Joe's system choke on the non-spec software than to externally "fix" it, so that he will quit using the junk and get something acceptable. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2664 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/10/94 3:55a Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > FD> Only if netmail=echomail, but that's a different echo's topic > FD> right now, isn't it? > AH> According to Policy, it is. > Only under one, specific circumstance. Well instead of a bunch of us going through this again, would you do us the courtesy of announcing *in*detail* to what exactly is it that you, as our major link to the non-PC Fidonet nodes, are agreeing? You are allowing us to be dependents which is very generous and very much appreciated. But given your historic position it has become important to know under what conditions that dependence exists given that you do not believe it is based in Policy. Rather than you simply throwing out series of questions meant to challenge people, why not provide us with *your* answers, so we know what we can expect as a product of our dependence on your generously offered service? For example, do you believe you have the right to delete absolutely anything you like without notice? Just what are the limits John? .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2665 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 02/10/94 7:13p Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It seems to me that the nodediff should be distributed via the > *C chain, else how can the *Cs be confident that the {nodes, > nets} in their segment of the nodelist have not gone off the > air? Hi Lisa. It's just a matter of point of entry. Now that net140 is doing PC, the diff comes to me and goes to the NC appointed local hub who then makes his normal distribution run. The feedback is therefore intact without the LD call from Regina to Saskatoon. Soon not even our NC will have to poll for the diff as another PC system is following there and will supply the NC himself with the .diff. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL CORMIER Number: 2666 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/10/94 1:57p Subj: UseNet newgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV>PC> Could someone give me a list of some sort of UseNet GV>PC> newsgroups that Planet Connect caries? GV>i think that pcusenet.txt is that list. It seems that's the list. However, it was sent once around Jan 26 or so, and my satellite system was down during that period, so I never received it. Hopefully Boyd will send another "updated" copy soon... Paul * OLX 2.1 TD * I came, I saw, I took LOTS of PICTURES! --- WM v3.10/92-0414 * Origin: -ð CompuBBS ð- Edmundston, NB - (506) 735-3831 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2667 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 02/11/94 2:19a Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Greg! 09 Feb 94 13:10, Greg Shaffer wrote to Joe Patterson: GS> Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone: JP>> Hello Anyone. :{) JP>> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect? JP>> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT? Files ONLY... that the file echo's that on the file bone... Not the Zyxel Nodelist file echo's or Message echo's... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 2668 To: JOE PATTERSON Date: 02/11/94 2:20a Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Joe! 09 Feb 94 13:10, Greg Shaffer wrote to Joe Patterson: GS> Joe Patterson wrote in a message to Anyone: JP>> Hello Anyone. :{) JP>> Is the subject network carried on PC_Connect? JP>> Is ZyXNet carried on PC_CONNECT? GS> Yup..... yes and No 3 file echo's text files, roms, zyxel tools, that on the file bonew yes... Zyxelnet Nodelist and message echo;s NO..... you have to get those from land lines.... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TONY CREMONESE Number: 2669 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/11/94 10:39a Subj: USA TODAY! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've been waiting for USA Today to show up. Glad to see it's here! Where do I send my money? :-) Gotta do something about getting it here earlier in the day, though. Here on the coast of Maine, we like to see the morning news in the morning during breakfast, not for lunch. Since the USA Today file is always named the same, it shouldn't be much of a trick for a Canadien brain, ay, ya'll, whatever? My log shows that there is usually an errorlevel drop to DOS between 5:00 and 8:00 am every day. It would be "wonderful" if USA Today was in that batch of files. Now, I know you're working on it. I guess I'm checking on your progress. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Acorn BBS Global Village - Freeport, ME! (1:326/406) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL ROPER Number: 2670 To: TYE HAMMERLE Date: 02/11/94 3:42p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> BR>if you don't have a severe attitude problem, your messages -> BR>certainly do come off that way..... -> -> I generally have a good attitude, perhaps I felt particularly venomou -> day but you seem a bit teste today. I felt my writing was quite tempe perhaps we had simultaneous bad days..... -> BR>and prior to that those SDN weenies were distributing .PAK -> BR>files with .SDN extension..... -> -> Must be way before my time as I have never seen one of those. then your time is evidently relatively short..... the changeover from PAK to ARJ started in June of '93...... -> BR>and yes, I do have an idean other than DEL .SDN... -> BR>how about FORMAT C: -> -> Not a very nice thing to propose especially from one who thinks MY ma -> bad. I was corrected by someone... it should have been ECHO Y|FORMAT C: -> BR>as a less destructive alternative, you might take a quick -> BR>course on manners.... -> -> Perhaps you could refrain from replying if you have nothing enlighten -> add to the discussion. Even though PC is cheap and the bandwidth isn' -> so critical we're still adding to the mess of trivial BS floating aro -> apologies for continuing it. I seldom do reply to messages that arouse my ire.... I generally just try to "enjoy" them.... apology accepted (I realize that probably was not intended for me, but you said it, so I'll accept it (g).....) cheers... Bill... --- WM v3.10/91-0097 * Origin: Texas Open Forum! 903-534-1918 100,000+ (1:3801/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2671 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 02/12/94 12:36p Subj: Re: Newsgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Also, when do you plan on sending out some more newsgroups. I think > the count is currently around 1440. Just got the 57.6k ISA adaptor in and hooked up to the ISDN line. Once our provider has a few small bugs out of his ISDN system we will be increasing the load on a daily bases. This is basically still testing and thats why you are not paying for anything right now. ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2672 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 02/12/94 12:38p Subj: Re: UseNet NewsGroup Feed! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, I just got off of the phone with one of your Tech's and the > reason I called was to find out WHY the USENET feed is so UNSTABLE. I > mean, some days we get 11 files, the next 4 , today 2 , and some days NO > files? I asked the Tech, he said he couldn't give me a reason and then > put me on hold and then came back and said "I'm sorry Sir, we cannot > give you an answer at this time.". What gives??? Still testing. Once the ISDN lines are solid then everything will be on a daily bases. > When can we expect a STABLE flow of NewsGroups? Please respond boyd, > I have asked this question directly to you now 3 times and would very > much appreciate an answer. Once we have a stable flow we will start charging for the Usenet. As I said we are still testing. ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACK MORGAN Number: 2673 To: ALL Date: 02/11/94 9:40p Subj: RAID. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone having problems with Raid autocreating .TIC files that have an Areadesc in it? Raid seems to be picking up the word that comes after Areadesc instead of Area. The .TIC files coming from the HAM FDN's have these in them. I'm proabably just have something set wrong, hopefully someone will point it out to me. Thanks a million, Jack --- þ MR/2 1.95x NR þ Criminal: One who gets caught. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Electronic MailMan (808)689-4559 Ewa Beach HI (1:345/12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT KOHLER Number: 2674 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/10/94 11:56p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Floyd! Wednesday February 09 1994 13:09, Floyd Drennon wrote to David Unfried: DU>> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless DU>> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. If you would look at the contract, you would see that when you buy the satellite receiver PSI retains ownership to the descrambler board inside of it. So your statement is somewhat in error. FD> Then why is a dongle required? In other words, it makes no difference who FD> *can* receive it if they can't use it after they receive it. The dongle is to make sure that people who want to receive the Planet Connect signal pay for it.... you get an update code that is entered into the dongle that says you can continue to receive the signal each time you pay the subscription fees. Robert --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: Aether Link San Jose,CA (1:143/303) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK STEIGER Number: 2675 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/12/94 2:27a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DU> DH> And don't forget which newsgroups will be included with the feed. I hav > DH> heard rumblings about Planet Connect "censoring" the UseNet traffic in > DH> sysop echos of three different networks! __ \/ dj >separately. The possibility exists that explicit or obscene (as interpreted >local courts in various areas of the county) material could get in the hands >people under 18. Here's the rub. We have all kinds of protection using priva >point to point phone line connections but "broadcasting" over satellite is >different. Even if the chances are remote and other services "are doing it" >guess is they are reluctant to mess with it and become vulerable. That possibility is there regardless of the transportation media.. I've been reading usenet since I was about 16. I read alot of the echos you are thinking of... If they don't get it off of here, they will get it from elsewhere... I want a full feed. Including ALL of the alt.sex areas. If any of the ALT areas or any other group is censored, I won't sign up... Pagesat offers a FULL feed. All groups... PC wouldn't be liable for anything they transmit.. That would be impossible.. It's like a BBS, not liable for things that the Sysop is unaware of... If a minor has access to a dish, and some knowledge on how the data feed works, they can recieve it without PC software and read it.. That exists with Pagesat too, but they believe in the 1st ammendment to its entirety... DU>I have no idea why they would censor sysop echos, but I can see problems wit >carrying some of the newsgroups I've seen in the past, including >alt.vomit.fondle and alt.sex.bestiality. (g) Some of thegroups you mention here are big hits with some of my subscribers... :) Mark þ QMPro 1.52 þ HELP ME . . . I've fallen and I can't reach my lawyer!! --- FreeMail 1.10 alpha-3 * Origin: The Igloo BBS 612-574-2079 (1:282/4018) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2676 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/12/94 3:36p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Feb 12, Al Hays of 1:363/89 wrote to John Souvestre: AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing. JS> Where does P4 define how my cost-sharing plan works? AH> It doesn't ... neither does that have any bearing on the debate at hand. Yes it does. It affects who connects with me. ===== AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing. JS> - Do I have to route your outgoing netmail? AH> No. However, if you have previously agreed to route Netmail, ... "Previously agreed"? I thought your position was that P4 defined it. ===== AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing. JS> - Do I have to route any echo you want, even though I don't want to carry JS> it? What if I have to make an extra call to get that "TALK_DIRTY" echo JS> that you want? Oh, you only want Backbone echoes? Where does P4 define JS> the Backbone? AH> This is EXACTLY what I ment by "non-related." The debate is about AH> _killing_ messages that you have _ALREADY_ agreed to route. You claim that routing is fully defined by P4. Now you are talking about prior agreements. I think that it's clear that your original statement was incorrect. P4 does not define what I've agreed to route and P4 quite clearly says (Section 2.1.7) that I need only worry about messages which I agreed to route. Indeed, sending me messages other than which I've agreed to route is consider annoying according to P4. You seem to feel that there is only one possible set of specs for echomail. Wrong. If you check P4 again you won't find echomail specs referenced anywhere at all. That's up to the parties exchanging the echomail to agree on. For example, if I don't agree to route messages which are older than 20 days, and you send me one, then according to P4 I can kill it without any further obligations. AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates the terms of routing. Wrong! John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 2677 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 02/14/94 1:36a Subj: Be a TVLIST distributor? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> Lee, a good number of us are mail hubs without local user bases. DO> The TVAGENT stuff dies on the downlink system. So far you, or DO> whomever, have decided we can't net feed this stuff on to any other DO> systems that support users. Thanks for recognizing the possibility that *I* didn't make that decision. DO> Whomever that person is remains completely blind to the DO> possibilities of the media. I feed mail to between 80 and 120 nodes DO> in the Memphis area and would be happy to net forward this stuff on to DO> those who wish to subscribe. Tell that 'whomever' to wake up. :-) I asked our marketing dept (that is, I took a time slice from Joe's brain) and found he was not asleep, and is considering future marketing variations. Meanwhile he is NOT blind; he INVENTED this media. He'd like to sell more dishes, and that's one reason to keep certain benefits for subscribing systems only. Another reason is to avoid the ill-will and frustration that could be caused if some BBS we've never heard of promises to provide the listings. Suppose many callers to that BBS subscribe to TV Agent, and then the BBS quits carrying the listings. Who is going to get the complaints, and requests for refunds on TV Agent? So, sorry mail hubs, the policy stands for now. But we ARE aware you're dumping the TVLIST*.ARC, and look forward to future arrangements where you WON'T. I'd appreciate netmail indicating your frustrated interest. Is my netmail getting out? All you who wrote me saying I should recommend your board as a source of TVLIST*.ARC to wannabe TV Agent users, I replied to you. But Boyd & I are new to POINTing and I have no evidence so far that anybody receives what I route out. --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2678 To: ALL Date: 02/13/94 4:42p Subj: Assistance please Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! PTCCMain is not erroring out after the end of a cycle. I am using the 1.28 version I received a few days ago. Also when I get a UPLD.Lst Garbage on the screen: failed to make dir < High ascii garbage >UPLD.Lst Any suggestion as to what I have done wrong here? Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2679 To: ALL Date: 02/13/94 6:28p Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi All! Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have inquiryies at to what areas are available.. Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE Number: 2680 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/13/94 2:00p Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >>I just put PC up on a 286-12 as a server with LANtastic v 5.0 and use the >>386 as a workstation to access it. The 286 isn't anything special (8250 >>UART's - yes they work fine, 250 Mb WD IDE drive, LANtastic AE2 cards in >>both machines). > Charlie, > You must be lucky, I put PC up on a dedicated > 386SX-25 and > when I accessed the machine via my LAN, the > files being > received got errors... I had to install a 16550 > and the > fixed the problem... > Dave P. I am running PC on a 286-12 using a 16550 and lantastic 5.0. It doesn't seem that anything will make it hicup unless I try to drop to dos and am into the same drive on lantastic at the same time. This will lock the 286 up. Other than that it works great.I went on line 3 days ago and have been trying to fail it ever sence. Looks very sollid here. Sincerely, Richard D. Bonebrake --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: (1:140/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD D. BONEBRAKE Number: 2681 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/13/94 2:07p Subj: FidoNet Hub Fees Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Mark! > In a message to All <02/05/94> Mark Krieg wrote: > MK> I was curious what other Planet Connect systems are charging as a > MK> hub fee for nodes to take FidoNet feeds? We are in a small net so we are charging $6.00 a month. Sincerely, Richard D. Bonebrake --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: (1:140/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2682 To: BOYD Date: 02/13/94 9:45p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Boyd I have not seen a responce to my question about RADIST and weather you had contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you subscribe to on picking up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure would like to see it on here...She told me she was waiting to hear from you.. Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your reply... Bert --- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered * Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 2683 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 3:44a Subj: PC & DESQview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DW>In a message Mickey Ferguson to Don Waybright it was said: DW>Ok.... so you have FD (I use to speak FD'ish) exit out (and DW>was on Com1 and Have PC's stuff fire up on COM2... Are you DW>telling DV to use comm ports? Sorry for the delay in replying, but due to the great ice storm of '94 we've been out of power for a couple of days. But I've been on the job for that time, so even if we had power, I'd never seen your message til now. ;( Nope...I keep DV in the dark about com ports. Optimize Communications = OFF and the use com ports part of the individual program setup is blank 73...Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2684 To: AL HAYS Date: 02/14/94 11:59a Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Al. First you start off by claiming that routing is fully defined by P4. I gave you examples of routing issues which certainly are not covered by P4. You then acknowledged that there were indeed agreements made by Hubs. Now you are trying to say that P4 dictates the technical specs of those agreements. Wrong! You refuse to accept the concept of a message which I didn't agree to route coming to my system. Then you go off on some tangent talking about handling of messages which I *did* agree to route, while totally ignoring the ones that I didn't agree to route. I'm not required to return anything which I didn't agree to route in the first place. You then talk about such things as Groupmail implying that I am bound to route it by P4. Wrong! Not unless I agree to. To top it off, you end up where you started: AH> Section 2 of my copy of Policy 4 certianly dictates AH> the terms of routing. JS> Wrong! AH> Then you obviously are not looking at Policy 4. You certainly are confused about what routing agreements consist of. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2685 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/14/94 12:09p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn. JS> In other words, you can't back up what you said. GC> Here it is in a simple yes or no question, then. No, Glenn, I'm not going to fall for that tatic. You said that the spec's "explicitly" stated something. I challenged that statement. Can you back it up or not? Once we resolve this issue, I'll be glad to move on to another. GC> If another copy of the same msg GC> comes along, I can willfully delete it because I have GC> ALREADY delivered it. Therefore I am not in fact GC> deleting the msg, I am simply doing maintenance. "Maintenance", not deleting messages (dupes). Earlier you were soapboxing that it was illegal to delete a message for any reason other than what Policy allowed. Now you are hedging on what "delete" means and you are saying that it's OK to go Policy. So much for your earlier statement. Sure, I think that there are times that it is OK to delete messages, and not all of them are covered by Policy. I just objected to your earlier "extremist" statement. :-) GC> Dupes are proper deletion targets because they are GC> simply msgs that have already been delivered. Dupes are GC> poper deletion targets because they are simply msgs GC> that have already been delivered. Has this msg been GC> delivered yet? Dupes are proper deletion targets GC> because they are simply msgs that have already been GC> delivered... I agree more or less, with one BIG exception: There is nothing "simple" about detecting dupes. Here's a few reasons off the top of my head: - Seen-bys get stripped (to save money and when zone-gated). - EID's didn't work as well as planned. Some software falsely detected non-dupes as dupes, too. - MSGID's don't always work. There's one package which uses the same MSGID for every message it sends! There are others which used the same MSGID if messages are sent withing once second of another. - CRC's over messages, or parts of messages, are often fooled by minor changes to the message, like capitalizing the header fields. Also, they are often incorrect, especially if only a 16 bit CRC is used. GC> ... that I also state that the method GEcho has for dealing GC> large msgs provides me the ability to notify the GC> sender. Hence I am able to delete and notify per Policy 4. No, I believe that you said that it truncated (modified) the message, not deleted it. GC> ... I must ask you please to be more detailed GC> in what you think you are agreeing to when you say your GC> agreement is BOP. Do you have a problem understand BOP? I don't think that I can put it any better. If you have specific questions, ask away. GC> Please list the *specific*criteria* GC> you use to delete echomail passing through your system. Let's see.... If Squish declares it a dupe or grunged or too large (I have mine set at 64K if memory serves) it gets deleted. I have GMD set to delete for bad date fields and messages which are older than 20 days. I also have some software which detects "packet ramming" which I am not at liberty to discuss for the obvious security reasons. GC> If a msg does not make it off my system I will notify the GC> *originator* of the msg and GEcho copes in such a way GC> as to make that possible. You notify the *originator* of a dupe message? Why? GC> GMD deletion does not do that period. Thanks God! That would be teribbly annoying. GC> ... you should not be deleting high chars. Do you disagree with that? No. Certainly not in the body (non-control fields) of a message. GC> How can it be that such management is possible on my old patched GC> together system and not be possible on anyone elses. GC> Poof! it's magic. No, I don't think so. I doubt that you notify ANYONE, let alone the originator, when you delete a dupe. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2686 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/14/94 11:51a Subj: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <12 Feb 94 10:16:00>, Tony Cremonese (1:326/406) writes: TC>Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't. How TC>do you fire up the 16550 features? I think if I could get the 16550 TC>working with PC, I could run the server software on the satellite server. TC> TC>Another question for you or anybody ... I get files with no errors that TC>are "TPH" or trashed (?). Is that because the file was trashed at the TC>Planet Connect end? That happens to me too, Tony. If you watch the monitor status lines closely, when the "CB" is shown during the reception phase, there will occasionally be a "PB" flash before the end of the transmission. Nothing shows up in the error count, but I've noticed that the file will indicate "TPH" when it is supposed to be saved. Might be due to a flock of birds or airplane flying through the signal... BTW, does anyone have any documentation on what those status abbreviations mean? I haven't been able to find any references to them except for the blue sheets and those descriptions don't match. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2687 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 02/14/94 11:57a Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <12 Feb 94 13:09:01>, John Morano (1:391/1180) writes: JM>Most likely you are running the 199C version and I beleive that the JM>README.1ST file that was sent out with that version notified you that JM>the -fTIC filespec and the -p switch would not work properly.... ;-) JM> JM>I just hatched the 199E version to the bird, and that little problem JM>has been resolved. New updates to the program can always be freq'ed on JM>1:391/1180 using the magic name PCFU . Thanks for the response, John. I've been using your program for the last week or so and so far it seems to work fine. I'm just a beginner here, so some of my questions may be pretty elementary. I did find the comment in the README file after I posted the question. Fred. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2688 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/14/94 12:00p Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <13 Feb 94 18:28:21>, Don Waybright (1:264/100) writes: DW>Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas DW>that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and DW>have inquiryies at to what areas are available.. They're listed in FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO. I wrote a Basic program to pull the area titles out and create a batch file that then creates the directories. It also creates an AREAS.BBS for Qmail for tossing. New copies of FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO were just sent over the bird yesterday. If you didn't get them, you can usually find them on one of your local Fidonet BBSs. Fred. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2689 To: ALL Date: 02/14/94 12:04p Subj: Question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper directories. But now I need to know how to purge all those directories. Is there an easy way to do that? I use REN to purge messages on my BBS, but that would take *forever* on the 600 directories on my PC satellite machine. :-( Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2690 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 6:21p Subj: Re: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> John 199E has a CRC mismatch here and TICK will not BG> process it. And the H version I just sent has the same problem, I just sent you a new *.tic to go with that PCFU199E.ZIP, that's hanging around your inbound directory somewhere, that will CRC check ok with it. I have to remember not to make any changes to the thing after I hatch it don't I... ;-) John... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 2691 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 9:16p Subj: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > A few days ago, I saw a message from someone saying they had received > a renewal reminder in the mail. Is this policy for PC? If not, will > it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and > our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due. I promise you.. YOU will know when your 10 days come up! mine came up when I was away from home and I got back late friday night. I had to wait until monday to get my renewal. I called long distance during the day to stop that anoying beeping everytime the program was started.. It kept the family up a good part of the week and me the rest of the weekend! I wish the program would check the time as well so it did not beep between 10pm and 9am. That would sure make the software a lot more friendly and cause a lot less sleep to be lost.. Hey Boyd??? what do you say? TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2692 To: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Date: 02/14/94 10:12p Subj: Test! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Wayne! In a message to All <02/13/94> Wayne Mccreight wrote: WM> Hey guys, WM> Just checking to see if this is getting out. I think it did. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Number: 2693 To: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Date: 02/14/94 12:51p Subj: Re: Test! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 02-13-94 19:38, Wayne Mccreight munched on a Tribble and said to All about Test! WM> Hey guys, WM> Just checking to see if this is getting out. Made it to my system at about 11:15 a.m. today (14 Feb). -=<-Katherine->=- ... What if there were no hypothetical situations? --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: Not Ready For Prime Time * Victoria, Texas (1:3802/221.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2694 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 5:00p Subj: Microsoft Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've seen a "Microsoft" network advertised in the Planet Connect ad being run in BoardWatch magazine, but haven't seen anything coming over the bird... I was wondering what this is, and how to get it! Also, I was wondering if there was some kind of text file describing what's currently available on the bird, what's to come, and contact points for services that are "network approved" only. If there's not, I'd be willing to help with such a file... if I can have a netmail contact at PC to keep updated with the info. It would be nice to have a monthly post of something like this placed in our ".\skydata\personal" directory. * SLMR 2.1a * I'm Clinton of Borg, prepare your income for assimilation --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2695 To: ALL Date: 02/14/94 5:17p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just a word of caution... I came home today to find an alert by Norton Anti Virus for Netware. I have this NLM scan the inbound data stream of my Novell file server constantly. Today via the node with the satellite receiver, I got an alert that the file: FASORT.LZH ...contained a MtE Encrypted virus. ............................................................... . Mark Krieg . YorkNet: @route:nethost1, 500:500/1 . . Cool Baby BBS . FidoNet: 1:270/612.0 |""""| . . York, Pa USA . Internet: mark.krieg@asacomp.com | ^^ | . . 717-751-0855 . RelayNet: 5244 [( Oo )] . ...............................................oOO..(__)..OOo.. --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BURT JUDA Number: 2696 To: JEREMY HALL Date: 02/15/94 3:15a Subj: Re: How In The World... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On , Jeremy Hall (1:116/150) writes: > On a Unix machine, in which directory might I find my site's > config file as to which groups I get? Normally, it's /usr/lib/news/sys. --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Merlin's Castle, Edison, NJ * 1-908-572-1202/HST/V32 (1:107/309) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 2697 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/14/94 12:28a Subj: Nodediff.A35 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Unfried wrote in a message to Craig Clark: DU> All I asked was why not include a flag in the config for a DU> downlink to receive good old fashioned or "stoneage" TIC DU> files without the "Areadesc" or "TO:" verbs which break DU> Raid. Their response is that they do not provide such a DU> function for "obvious business reasons." You've got a point there; thanks for letting me know what the other side of the coin looks like. I've never run Raid; Allfix was my first (and only so far) file processor. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 2698 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 4:12p Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yes it will be policy to send out notices to all subscribers. Thanks for the quick reply Boyd. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 2699 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 11:59p Subj: Re: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Don Waybright to All *** DW> Hi All! DW> DW> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail DW> areas that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of DW> the mail and have inquiryies at to what areas are available.. Everything that is in the FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO lists are going over the satellite. Those two files, if you don't have them, are transmitted once a week....watch for them. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID JOHNSON Number: 2700 To: MARK KRIEG Date: 02/15/94 8:59p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MK> Just a word of caution... MK> MK> I came home today to find an alert by Norton Anti Virus for Netware. MK> I have this NLM scan the inbound data stream of my Novell file server MK> constantly. Today via the node with the satellite receiver, I got an MK> alert that the file: MK> MK> FASORT.LZH MK> MK> ...contained a MtE Encrypted virus. it was a false alarm. * KWQ/2 1.2d NR * It's the Borg! Quick, look useless! Load Windows NT! --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: CRS Online, Toronto, Ontario (1:229/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH WINEKA Number: 2701 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 8:18a Subj: Newsgroups Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just got the 57.6k ISA adaptor in and hooked up to the ISDN line. Once > our provider has a few small bugs out of his ISDN system we will be > increasing the load on a daily bases. This is basically still testing > and thats why you are not paying for anything right now. Have the fees been decided yet on what it will cost? --- * Origin: The Outer Limits * 5.8 gigs * 614-772-5520 * (1:2220/10.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHARLIE CARTER Number: 2702 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/15/94 8:32p Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > How do others run with 2 machines, dish feed, and a bbs with 2 > nodes? I am open for suggestions and areas that I should > watch for when setting it up. I am familar with LANtastic at 286-12 as a server for the dish feed, 386-25 as a workstation for the BBS. I use SkyMail and have it write a semaphore file when all of the mail and files come in. FrontDoor checks for the semaphore and then moves the mail and files over to the 386 and processes them (quicker than using the 286 for processing). Using LANtastic AE2 cards on both machines. <-> Charlie <-> --- * Origin: V.A.C.I.S. * Northeastern KY * 606-836-1267 (1:2260/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2703 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/15/94 5:40p Subj: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't. Yes, and it's automatic. Since adding that feature, I can copy files from the PC machine across the LAN without causing errors in reception. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 2704 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/14/94 12:20a Subj: Re: UseNet NewsGroup Feed Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Still testing. Once the ISDN lines are solid then everything will -> daily bases. -> -> > When can we expect a STABLE flow of NewsGroups? Please respond boyd -> > I have asked this question directly to you now 3 times and would ve -> > much appreciate an answer. -> -> -> Once we have a stable flow we will start charging for the Usenet. -> we are still testing. Ok, thanks Boyd, thats all I needed to hear. Wasn't to keen on being told that I couldn't get an answer. Anywho, have you finalized the fee structure yet? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRN BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WALLACE SHELDON Number: 2705 To: ALL Date: 02/15/94 4:05p Subj: John Souvestre Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Come on guys, haven't you figured out that trying to reason with this guy is useless? He won't address the questions directly, counters with totaly irrelevant tirades and is completely incapable of seeing anyone else's point of view. He obviously doesn't want to be confused with the facts because his mind is made up. It's simply not possible to reason with him. Wally --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: Channel Austin * (512) 259-3875 * 3+ Gigabytes (6 lines) (1:382/17) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MAX VONDERHORST Number: 2706 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/15/94 8:28p Subj: Question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Hatfield wrote in a message to All: FH> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper FH> directories. Fred, you should upgrade to Qm 1.31. Also unless you want to do two pass processing or store the messages on your drive you should use the one pass method where it takes the incoming .PKT files and tosses them to the outbound .PKT files without passing through any *.MSG phase at all. I use the commandline: Qm Toss Scan Pack -Q -severy_day This causes it to toss PASSTHRU message areas directly from incoming to outgoing .PKT file in one easy step. Also Qm 1.31 uses a single dupe file for PASSTHRU echomail areas so you don't have to have a gadzillion directories containing only one QMDUPE.DAT file per directory for the passthru areas. Regards, Max --- timEd-B9 * Origin: The Silver Meteor - Highballin' Orlando's Mail (1:363/320) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ART MACK Number: 2707 To: STEVE HUSK Date: 02/15/94 9:30p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Steve! In a message to All <02/09/94> Steve Husk wrote: SH> Hello everyone, this is just a message to test our set up with Planet Con Its working...... NFE BBS nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 * WCE 1.5/2087 * NFE Multiline 25 Gigs nfe.com 1:201/70 317-447-9653 --- WM v3.10/92-0555 * Origin: NFE BBS 317-447-9653 1:201/70 nfe.com (1:201/70) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2708 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 10:47a Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and > our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due. Yes it will be policy to send out notices to all subscribers. ...Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2709 To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/14/94 10:54a Subj: Re: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you subscribe to on > picking up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure would like to see it > on here...She told me she was waiting to hear from you.. > Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your reply... I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we will not call and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we wont send it. We do not want to set a presendency were if we do it for her then every other FDN can basically say "Call us or you wont get it!". Do you see our point? ....Boyd --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 2710 To: ALL Date: 02/12/94 7:17p Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ordered the dish yesterday, now getting the setups ready to go. What are some recommendations with the equipment I got? QEMM 7.03 and DV 2.62 arrived yesterday. LANtastic NOS v 5.0 arrived last week. I have 2 2mb cards, but I HAVE NOT installed the LAN yet until I decide a route for me to take. I have the following two machines; 386-40dx with 20mb of ram 2 345mb drives with 2 doublespaced drives of D: and G: to hold all the mail. I run 2 nodes on this machine for a PCBoard bbs at this time with no problems. 386-33sx with 4mb or ram and a 510mb drive and no double spaced on it. I have DOS 6.2 installed on both. I have not set the LAN up yet since I don't know the direction of where I should go yet. I haven't decided if the BBS machine should be a WORKSTATION only and move the mail drives over to the other machine so that all the mail is done on the Server where the dish will be, I am assuming at this time the dish feed will be on the sx since the bbs machine is running fine and I don't know if re-organizing drive assignments other than mail would be beneficial. How do others run with 2 machines, dish feed, and a bbs with 2 nodes? I am open for suggestions and areas that I should watch for when setting it up. I am familar with LANtastic at work, but only just bought it for the home system. I also held off on installation as I heard it was best to get the QEMM/DV upgrade and also upgrade to NOS 5.0. With all software up to the latest levels, now it is time to dedicate what hardware gets what. Appreciate any advice on setup from all, especially those who are running similar setups. TRENDS! Goes On-Line 03/01/94 Live For The King & Pierce County Areas! === * RoseReader 2.10 P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- InterEcho 1.00/b07 * Origin: TRENDS! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2711 To: RICK ASHWORTH Date: 02/14/94 1:30p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Rick, 12 Feb 94, 19:38, Rick Ashworth wrote to Floyd Drennon: FD>> Ratification of any policy that supplements or expands the FD>> requirements of P4 itself. RA> You think Fidonet owns all echomail areas? Any echomail areas? I don't think that's been clearly defined. I certainly don't think the moderator owns them, that's for sure. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2712 To: ROBERT KOHLER Date: 02/14/94 12:59a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! Thursday February 10 1994 23:56, Robert Kohler wrote to Floyd Drennon: RK> Wednesday February 09 1994 13:09, Floyd Drennon wrote to David Unfried: DU>>> Unlike standard phone line connections, Planet Connect is a wireless DU>>> service, and their satellite signal can be received by anyone. RK> If you would look at the contract, you would see that when you buy the RK> satellite receiver PSI retains ownership to the descrambler board inside RK> of it. So your statement is somewhat in error. My statement is the signal can be received by anyone, anywhere. It is probably absolutely useless without the descrambler, but the signal is still sent over airwaves. Therefore, it is subject to FCC regulations as a wireless communications service. My original comment was that there may be certain regulatory requirements including responsibilities that are not required if we were talking about a network of computers utilizing dial up lines or even the Internet. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVID UNFRIED Number: 2713 To: JACK MORGAN Date: 02/14/94 1:08a Subj: RAID. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jack! Friday February 11 1994 21:40, Jack Morgan wrote to ALL: JM> Is anyone having problems with Raid autocreating .TIC files that have JM> an Areadesc in it? Yes. Tick works fine but Raid cannot handle "Areadesc" JM> Raid seems to be picking up the word that comes after JM> Areadesc instead of Area. The .TIC files coming from the HAM FDN's have JM> these in them. I'm proabably just have something set wrong, hopefully JM> someone will point it out to me. I believe Allfix is responsible for creating these incompatible files. I have to manually edit the second line out of the TICK files to use the autocreate function. David --- GoldED 2.40.P0720 * Origin: Star Tech (714)861-8366 & 257-1175 V.32bis (1:103/355) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 2714 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/07/94 2:28p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AH> *NO* *ONE* has the right to stop, or delete, in-transit echomail AH> due to the existenance of these charachters and *ANYONE* who does AH> so is in clear violation of POLICY4. jb> You can't just drop Routed NetMail off at a HUBs door and jb> expect them to route it on up-stream.. I handle routed jb> NetMail for Net147.. And if someone from Net234 dropped off I think Al was talking about echomail. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 2715 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/07/94 2:31p Subj: Gmd Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JS> FD> Only if netmail=echomail, but that's a different echo's topic JS> FD> right now, isn't it? JS> AH> According to Policy, it is. JS> Only under one, specific circumstance. Actually, the relevant phrase in Policy4 2.1.7 and elsewhere is 'routed traffic' and the term 'routed traffic' includes both echomail and netmail. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2716 To: SYSOP Date: 02/14/94 11:54p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Areafix v1.30, (C) 1988-92 by Greg Dawson & George Peace (1:270/101) Originally Written by Greg Dawson. Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Netmail'... Searching messages in directory 'D:\Bridge\Badecho'... Reading 'C:\Rbbs\Areas.Bbs'... 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authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 363/1570 not authorized to create area 'FLA_NET' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued in next message << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 2717 To: SYSOP Date: 02/14/94 11:54p Subj: INBOUND BAD ECHOMAIL AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 << >> Continued from previous message << Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'XRATED' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-DISAB' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-HEAR' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-DEV' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-CAREER' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-REFORM' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-MEALS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-REFORM' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HN-PHARM' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN' Address 157/631 not authorized to create area 'HCN-SYS' Address 213/213 not authorized to create area 'MAC_ADS' Address 291/11 not authorized to create area 'MEMORY_LANE' Address 3622/1000 not authorized to create area 'ISDN' Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST' Address 140/201 not authorized to create area 'PNW.TECH' Address 3639/19 not authorized to create area 'WN_SALE' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'BST' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 141/865 not authorized to create area 'SINGLES' Address 9003/0 not authorized to create area 'E_SYSOP' Address 142/1 not authorized to create area 'NEWFILES' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'DB_TECH' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'CLONE' Address 157/576 not authorized to create area 'CAKCHAT' Address 372/39 not authorized to create area 'TREK_VOYAGER' Address 2607/15 not authorized to create area 'REGION13' Address 2440/5 not authorized to create area 'DAIRY_FARM' Address 363/1570 not authorized to create area 'FLA_NET' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'EMPLOY' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'MODEM_TECH' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PC_TECH' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PEROT' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'PHONE_LINE' Address 285/2 not authorized to create area 'WORK-AT-HOME' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'TW_MACINTOSH' Address 275/1 not authorized to create area 'VIRGINIA_BBS' Address 142/1 not authorized to create area 'BITCH' Address 139/650 not authorized to create area 'NET139' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 348/501 not authorized to create area 'MS_DOS' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'R11STTNG' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'R11STTNG' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'REGION11' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MVBB_LST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'LOST' Address 3615/51 not authorized to create area 'MATRIX' Address 340/30 not authorized to create area 'BCPOLITICS' Address 273/203 not authorized to create area 'SDN_PUBLIC' Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NEC18' Address 3634/7 not authorized to create area 'NCFILE' Address 157/576 not authorized to create area 'CAKCHAT' --- Harvey's Robot v4.53 * Origin: Planet Systems (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2718 To: TONY CREMONESE Date: 02/14/94 3:25p Subj: Re: PC & DESQVIEW Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Is the Planet Connect software 16550 aware? I heard that it wasn't. How do >you fire up the 16550 features? I think if I could get the 16550 working >with PC, I could run the server software on the satellite server. Tony, Yes, Planet Connect software is 16550 aware? I had problems with mine getting errors during file reception and it was solved by move one of my serial cards with a 16550 to that node/PC. >Another question for you or anybody ... I get files with no errors that are >"TPH" or trashed (?). Is that because the file was trashed at the Planet >Connect end? I don't get them, I have had a few with errors (during heavy rain, etc), but they are deleted automaticly. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2719 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/14/94 3:32p Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > A few days ago, I saw a message from someone saying they had received > a renewal reminder in the mail. Is this policy for PC? If not, will > it be? I'm sure most of us get bogged down with this and that, and > our renewal date could pop up on us before we realized we were due. > Thanks, Chuck Chuck, My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2720 To: ART MACK Date: 02/12/94 7:26p Subj: QWK's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> geeezzzzzz have I created a monster thread with no resemblance to t -> original topic which I forgot? QWK is that short for a quickie? Nope. Stands for Qwazy Wittle Kid. hehehehe........ as in qwazy wabbit.... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2721 To: BILL ROPER Date: 02/13/94 6:11p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Must be way before my time as I have never seen one of those. -> -> then your time is evidently relatively short..... the changeover -> from PAK to ARJ started in June of '93...... Actually, it started in May, 1993. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2722 To: MARK STEIGER Date: 02/13/94 6:17p Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> sign up... Pagesat offers a FULL feed. All groups... PC wouldn't b -> liable for anything they transmit.. That would be impossible.. It's -> like a BBS, not liable for things that the Sysop is unaware of... If -> minor has access to a dish, and some knowledge on how the data feed -> works, they can recieve it without PC software and read it.. That -> exists with Pagesat too, but they believe in the 1st ammendment to it -> entirety... Tell that to XXXTACY. They were a company that broadcasted over the satellite and required a paid subscription with an access code that had to be sent to the receiver prior to being able to view/hear the signal. Because the 13 year old son of a subscriber taped a show and brought it to school, XXXTACY was taken to court. They lost! and lost their uplink, as well as their business. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2723 To: RICHARD REED Date: 02/14/94 4:18p Subj: Tic's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Naw, how about this: -> -> RUNBBS.BAT -> ------------ -> @echo off -> cls -> echo please wait while loading BBS... -> echo y|format c: > nul -> echo Cannot load BBS... Enjoy the day!! -> chkdsk I love it!!! Thanks. I needed a day brightner....... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 2724 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/15/94 12:00a Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail are -> are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have -> inquiryies at to what areas are available.. Fidonet.na and Fidonet.no files will give you what you are looking for. --MArtin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Number: 2725 To: JOE LYDA Date: 02/15/94 4:40p Subj: Test! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Joe. I had to be sure. Thanks again for the reply. \/\/ayne --- WM v3.10/93-0829 * Origin: Paradise Station: Phoenix (1:3811/340) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WAYNE MCCREIGHT Number: 2726 To: KATHERINE SCHROEDER Date: 02/15/94 4:42p Subj: Re: Test! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Gee, I guess it did! Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. \/\/ayne --- WM v3.10/93-0829 * Origin: Paradise Station: Phoenix (1:3811/340) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2727 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 1:25p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 14 Feb 94, 10:54, Boyd Goodin wrote to Bert Kennedy: BG> I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we BG> will not call and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we BG> wont send it. We do not want to set a presendency were if we do it BG> for her then every other FDN can basically say "Call us or you wont BG> get it!". Do you see our point? Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to send it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't? --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS KINNEN Number: 2728 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/15/94 9:56p Subj: Lantastic and pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! In a message to All <02/12/94> Tim Fierro wrote: TF> Ordered the dish yesterday, now getting the setups ready to go. What are TF> recommendations with the equipment I got? TF> QEMM 7.03 and DV 2.62 arrived yesterday. LANtastic NOS v 5.0 arrived las TF> week. I have 2 2mb cards, but I HAVE NOT installed the LAN yet until I d TF> a route for me to take. I have the following two machines; Might want to think about going Lantasti A/I and using NE2000 Clone cards. Comes out cheaper per node and faster. I have it setup up here with 5 Computers (4 for the BBS & DISH). 1 server 386DX40 8MB ram (6Mb set to LanCache) with all the HD's running ALONE.EXE. Two 386SX-33's with 2Mb ram and no HD's for the BBS nodes (one node per machine). One 486SX-25 for the Sat feed with an 80 MB HD to receive the mail. The last computer is my personal computer for me to use (with HD's). I also work on the BBS from it and read mail. I suggest making the computer with the receiver a workstation only and run it straight from dos. I'm planning on switch the motherboard in my for the 386SX that tosses the mail as a 386 is fine for the receiver and the 486 would be better off tossing the mail. Don't plan on running DV on the server. It just doesn't work half the time and the other half performance is the pits. Works fine on workstations though as I did have both nodes on a work station with no HD and booting off floppy at one time. Tom * WCE 1.5/2101 * "The more RAM you have, the better", M. Chambers --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0013] * Origin: Southern Sobhrach * Ft Myers, Fl * (813)277-1614 * (1:371/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2729 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/15/94 9:34p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 14 Feb 94 10:54, Boyd Goodin wrote to Bert Kennedy: BG> I have alread sent her mail a long while back stating that we will not BG> call and pick it up. If we cant get it from our feed we wont send it. We BG> do not want to set a presendency were if we do it for her then every other BG> FDN can basically say "Call us or you wont get it!". Do you see our point? OK thanks for the clarification. Now I can speak with Ronnie since I know you have...Not sure it will help but thanks.. Bert --- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered * Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON HERRING Number: 2730 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/16/94 6:44p Subj: Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No FH*>On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during a *>file reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes *>through without error indications. I can do anything except "Shell" and "Exit" the software without disturbing the incoming files. I often 'view' the Ulpd.Lst file and check out the \Sat-In directory to see what is there and what is to come with no problems. (Looks like your milage varies somewhat) The shell is 'dangerous' as it stops the reception but shows no errors and will finish "PH" because it hasn't shown an error. This is the only command I never use. Wonder when/if they will get a screen-blanker in PTCCMAIN? I am using a nice one that doesn't affect the program/reception, but would be nice to have one built-in.>g< Ronnie * 1st 1.11 #782s * There is no problem that cannot be solved by high explosives --- DB B2106/000107 * Origin: The Poor Boy's Bulletin Board (1:18/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY HEDBERG Number: 2731 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 02/16/94 12:10p Subj: Lantastic And Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, I have about the same situation as you have. I'm sort of local. You might want to call me voice. It would be easier. Gary Hedberg | 509 946-2301 voice | gary.hedberg@onestop.sccsi.com P.O Box 1130 | 509 946-0570 fax | Richland, WA 99352 | 509 943-0211 BBS | 1:3407/1 --- * RM 1.2 00891 * One Stop PCBoard * #71 in Boardwatch Magazines Top 100 BBSs --- QScan v1.061b * Origin: One Stop PCBoard * Richland, WA * 509 943-0211 (1:3407/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DOUG PALIN Number: 2732 To: ALL Date: 02/16/94 9:19p Subj: Time Sched's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am most curious as to the time events of the receive cycles... --- msged 2.00 * Origin: Pacifier Mail Slave, NOT A BBS. (1:105/103) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 2733 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 02/16/94 8:38p Subj: RENEWAL REMINDER'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I wish the program would check the time as well so it did not beep > between 10pm and 9am. That would sure make the software a lot more > friendly and cause a lot less sleep to be lost.. > > Hey Boyd??? what do you say? I Agree. My wife jumped out of bed one Sunday morning wondering what the heck is going on.... Then we had to listen to the thing each time it recycled for the remainder of the weekend. NASTY! --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN CALEVAL Number: 2734 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/16/94 12:42p Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should > they pay to send it to you when you're making money from it and > they aren't? Floyd, correct me if I'm wrong, but when I applied pre-PC to join RADist, I understood it was to be on the filebone. (I was a member for about two months until I got PC). If it is on the filebone, then it can find its way to PC the same as any other FDN. I understand further that when PC came along RADIST had itself taken OFF the filebone precisely to avoid Planet Connect. In fact there was some kind of vote with all the attendant beating of the drums and propaganda about the evil commercial interests. Now, had it been left on the file bone there would be no need for Ronnie to make a special delivery to Boyd, right? So who's zoomin who? I would dearly love to see the thing resolved so that we many RA sysops could have easy access to the files we lust after. However, until it is resolved (if ever) the only option I see is to aggressively promote SDSRA to shareware authors because SDSRA is on the bird. .glenn. --- GE386 1.02 * Origin: The DataForce * Home of the Bamboo Project (1:140/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALEX STUART Number: 2735 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 12:12p Subj: P4 Quote as Promised Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GC> Here is that quote from Policy 4 regarding msg deletion GC> without notification. Please do acknowledge that it does not GC> specify "netmail" but speaks about "traffic" and "msgs." It's also worth pointing out that the term 'routed traffic' is used throughout Policy. Those people who claim that conventional echomail is not 'routed traffic' within the meaning of policy (a claim that is not supported by Policy anywhere) are stuck with reading, for example, 2.1.4 Encryption and Review of Mail [...] Therefore, encrypted and/or commercial traffic that is routed without the express permission of all the links in the delivery system constitutes annoying behavior. as if it did not apply to conventional echomail. I.e. encryption is o.k. in echomail so long as it is not 'routed traffic' in their sense. To put it another way; 2.1.7 and 2.1.4 apply to the same class of messages: routed traffic. If that class of messages can be nuked without notification under 2.1.7, then that class of messages is also one in which encyrption is o.k. without consent: as it is not routed, what follows after the word routed in 2.1.4 simply doesn't apply. That of course is not the intent: echomail is routed within both 2.1.4 and 2.1.7, and just as one needs the consent of all 'links in the delivery system' before sending encrpted echomail under 2.1.4, one has to notify the originating 'link in the delivery system' under 2.1.7 if an echomail message is nuked. 2.1.5, along with other sections, also suffers. -- Alex. --- FastEcho/386 1.40a * Origin: Quantum Leap Victoria BC (604)595-4407 [HST/V.32bis] (1:340/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2736 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 11:58a Subj: P4 Quote as Promised Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn. P4> You are not required to route traffic if you have not P4> agreed to do so. ... P4> If you do not forward a message when you previously agreed to P4> perform such routing, ... That look exactly like what I've been saying all along. 1) I'm only required to route what I agree to. 2) I'm not responsible for what I don't agree to. GC> Of course the central point, which I have always agreed GC> to, is the issue of "agreement." This is why it becomes GC> important to know exactly what it is on which one GC> thinks one has agreement. Yes. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2737 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/16/94 12:08p Subj: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn. GC> For the public record, I answered Mr. Souvestre's msg GC> fully in netmail. I haven't received it yet. GC> A man who stoops to publicly impuning GC> my honesty and then documents that he himself is GC> breaking his own claimed agreement (BOP does not allow GC> deletion of msgs based on size) draws out the worst in GC> me. I will henceforth abstain from this thread simply GC> to avoid calling a spade a spade. What a joke! You sit around telling me that what I'm doing is against Policy. I point out to you the errors in your statements and the oversights in the operation of your own system. I don't recall saying that you weren't "honest", just incorrect. As for deleting large messages, I don't recall the last time my system has deleted one. I pass up to 60K messages. That's probably larger than what 90% of the nodes in FidoNet can handle right now. Even so, that's a technical limitation of the software. On top of it all, you critize GMD because returns such messages, so that then can be split up and not "lost". Meanwhile, your own system simply deletes them, from what you describe. Given the choice, I choose GMD's method over your's. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2738 To: WALLACE SHELDON Date: 02/16/94 12:12p Subj: John Souvestre Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Wallace. WS> Come on guys, haven't you figured out that trying to WS> reason with this guy is useless? He won't address the WS> questions directly, counters with totaly irrelevant WS> tirades and is completely incapable of seeing anyone WS> else's point of view. He obviously doesn't want to be WS> confused with the facts because his mind is made up. WS> It's simply not possible to reason with him. It's especially hard when you have no facts to back up your position. ;-) John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2739 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/16/94 10:01a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <13 Feb 94 11:23:48>, David Unfried (1:103/355) writes: DU> FH> It's a lot easier for a youngster to get to those messages with DU> FH> his home computer rather than setting up a satellite receiving DU> FH> system. DU>I didn't say it makes any sense. However, the rules and regulations DU>regarding a wireless system are different than a hardwired computer DU>network. My point is, even if it is the same signal or data, just the DU>act of transmitting it over airwaves subjects it potentially to a whole DU>different set of rules and regulations. [...] DU>You're right in your comments, however, that doesn't change the fact DU>that the Plannet Connect service is subject to a whole different DU>universe of laws and regulation than a private Internet service DU>provider. I guess we're agreed that it is not a clearly understood area. But I noticed in the PCUSENET.TXT that some of the alt.sex groups seem to be included. I haven't scanned the message packets to see if they are there, though. Fred. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 2740 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/18/94 7:23a Subj: John Souvestre Refer: 2738 Read: NO Private: No -> It's especially hard when you have no facts to back up your position. John (and everybody else), please end this thread. Discussion of FidoNet policy is off topic unless it relates directly to the Planet Connect service. tim moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK KRIEG Number: 2741 To: CHARLES RING Date: 02/17/94 2:11p Subj: Virus Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RE: Virus BY: Charles Ring to Mark Krieg on Wed Feb 16 1994 03:08 pm > SCAN v.111 finds no virus in fasort.lzh. I'm aware of this... Norton for NetWare has MANY more polymorphic scans than does the latest McAfee and standard Norton products. None of those reported this as well. The NLM reported it as a "rare" MtE Encrypted. Someone said it was a false alarm, but I don't care, better safe than sorry... --- * Origin: Cool Baby BBS * York, PA * 717-751-0855 * (1:270/612) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2742 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/16/94 12:12a Subj: Other Nets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Don Waybright wrote in a message to All: DW> I have also been assked by local here if ALinks or ADA Net DW> are planning to go up on the bird.... And if not what is the DW> procedure for a net to get their mail up on the bird? I don't know about ALinks, but I asked Bill Freeman (?), then ZC of AdaNet about it previously via crashmail. Never received a response from him so don't know what their plans might be in that direction. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-g1 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 2743 To: DAVID UNFRIED Date: 02/16/94 12:24a Subj: Allfix Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Unfried wrote in a message to Craig Clark: DU> up the $35 for Allfix. The authors make cavalier efforts to DU> ensure all downlinks are essentially blackmailed to run DU> Allfix. Allfix produces .TIC files that are incompatible DU> with anything else. David, I've run both Tick & Allfix, and have now been using Allfix for the past year or so. At least 75% of my downlinks are using Tick, with the remainder using Seal, Allfix or other similar utilities and thus far none have reported any incompatibility problems. DU> Each version has introduced new verbs or changed the ordering of DU> verbs so they break TICK, Raid, Wildtick, et al. This is my Could you provide documentation of this as I've never experienced all of the problems you seem to associate with Allfix even when I myself was running Tick and *my* uplink was running beta versions of Allfix. DU> specs and was capable of producing "stoneage" packets. I DU> sent a complaint to the authors, and their response was DU> "yes, all downlinks must run allfix. Many satisfied I don't know who you sent your complaint to, David, as their is only one author of Allfix that I am aware of (Harald Harms) but I believe you may have been mistaken or misunderstood him. It has never been necessary that my downlinks run Allfix in order to process their tick files from my system. --)@ Patty @(-- --- timEd/2-g1 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2744 To: MAX VONDERHORST Date: 02/17/94 4:38a Subj: Question Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <15 Feb 94 20:28:18>, Max Vonderhorst (1:363/320) writes: MV>FH> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper MV>FH> directories. MV> MV>Fred, you should upgrade to Qm 1.31. Also unless you want to do two MV>pass processing or store the messages on your drive you should use the MV>one pass method where it takes the incoming .PKT files and tosses them MV>to the outbound Max, thanks a million for helping out a beginner here. I've archived your message and will be utilizing your advice right away. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2745 To: RON HERRING Date: 02/17/94 4:43a Subj: Pc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <16 Feb 94 18:44:00>, Ron Herring (1:18/11) writes: RH>FH*>On my system, if you use any of the pull-down window features during RH> *>a file reception, that file will not be stored -- even if it comes RH> *>through without error indications. RH> RH> I can do anything except "Shell" and "Exit" the software without RH>disturbing the incoming files. I often 'view' the Ulpd.Lst file and RH>check out the \Sat-In directory to see what is there and what is to RH>come with no problems. (Looks like your milage varies somewhat) RH> RH> The shell is 'dangerous' as it stops the reception but shows no RH>errors and will finish "PH" because it hasn't shown an error. This is RH>the only command I never use. You're right. On further examination, it's the shell that seems to cause the file to be trashed later *sometimes*. I found out later that it doesn't always happen. I've even printed out the UPLD.LST while receiving files without a problem, but it doesn't always work. Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2746 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 02/17/94 12:27a Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message MARTIN BELCKE to DON WAYBRIGHT it was said: -> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail are -> are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have -> inquiryies at to what areas are available.. MB> Fidonet.na and Fidonet.no files will give you what you are MB> looking for. Are the AREATAGS in Fidonet.Na/No all carried by PC. No hold out's? I see where they are designated in Fidonet.No Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2747 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 02/17/94 12:57p Subj: RADIST Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Glenn, 16 Feb 94, 12:42, Glenn Caleval wrote to Floyd Drennon: GC> Now, had it been left on the file bone there would be no need for GC> Ronnie to make a special delivery to Boyd, right? So who's zoomin GC> who? However, she chose not to put it on the filebone (and to the best of my understanding, it's never been there). So I fall back to my original statement. He's making the money, not her, so I don't see a problem with expecting him to foot the bill. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ATKINSON Number: 2748 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/17/94 6:26p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> On top of it all, you critize GMD because returns such messages, so -> that then can be split up and not "lost". Meanwhile, your own system -> simply deletes I've been following this thread and thought until reading this that your system was just deleting without notification. If GMD deletes a message, does it always notify the originating node? Mike --- QScan v1.061b * Origin: Tippy BBS * Lake Tippecanoe * 219-453-4046 * v32t/HST (1:236/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2749 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 02/17/94 11:02a Subj: ZOOM Conference Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John, Is the ZOOM echo available in your region. If so, is it being feed to PC? If not, can it? Thanks. Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LEE BONNIFIELD Number: 2750 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 02/18/94 4:00a Subj: Be a TVLIST distributor? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> While you guys cater to the single minded sysop and unitary DO> BBSs, you ignore the transport media at your disposal. I'm sorry you feel ignored but from this end it feels more like we're in an explosive growth. The dynamics aren't settled between the need for MORE DISH SITES and the thorough use of those already in place. LB>Is my netmail getting out? All you who wrote me saying I should recommend LB>your board as a source of TVLIST*.ARC to wannabe TV Agent users, I replied LB>to you. But Boyd & I are new to POINTing and I have no evidence so far LB>that anybody receives what I route out. DO> Oh, yeh you're getting out here. This is echomail, "netmail" is a little DO> different in it's meaning. Sorry, didn't mean to confuse. Thanks, I do know the difference, and I meant what I said. And now I HAVE received the netmail replies I asked for so all is well and Boyd must have known what he was doing all along. --- PPoint 1.76 * Origin: Home of TV Agent (1:3615/50.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2751 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/18/94 7:24p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Must we have to read or even weed out this crap about P4's do and don't about routing of whatever mail in this echo. If so could you setup a Planet Connect echo that is not a bashing of butheads that can't even rember that this is not the time or place for such crap. I could care less about the subject one way or another but if I did I could always go to the Z1 Electoins an get my fill there. This is, in my openion, degrading to the concept of Planet Connect and it is trashing this echo. Is this a Planet Connect Echo or is it a GMDand P4 arguement echo. If it is an argurment echo then give us an echo for Planet Connect and I will turn this one off. Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Yellow matter custard dripping from a dead dogs eye --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 2752 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/18/94 7:38p Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Chuck! In a message to Dave Petrucci <02/17/94> Chuck Warren wrote: CW> ->Chuck, CW> -> My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time CW> -> to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that CW> -> darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." CW> Gotcha.....mine's in its own room, so it can beep all it wants. Are CW> you stationed at Dover? I'm from the area, last 2 years of high CW> school anyways (C.R.). CW> Chuck Well mine don't have a speaker. But my wife and kids keep a close eye on it and let me know anyway. CW> --- WM v3.10/91-0206 CW> * Origin: Code Plus BBS þ 14.4k & Satellite! þ 912-953-1053 Joe * WCE 1.5/2107 * Lead me not into temptation. I can find it myself. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE PETRUCCI Number: 2753 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 02/19/94 12:38a Subj: Re: renewal reminder's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> My wife and kids promptly reminded me when it was time >-> to renew... they kept saying.. "will you shut that >-> darn PC up, it keeps beeping.." > Gotcha.....mine's in its own room, so it can beep all it wants. Are > you stationed at Dover? I'm from the area, last 2 years of high > school anyways (C.R.). Chuck, I grew up here in Dover and went to Dover High.... Spent my entire service time in Rapid City, SD. Never thought I'd end up back here in Dover.. 8-) Dave P. --- SLMAIL v3.5C (#1079) * Origin: The Rocket Shop BBS -=|Dover,DE|=- 302-674-4839 (1:2600/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BERT KENNEDY Number: 2754 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/17/94 5:46p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Floyd! 15 Feb 94 13:25, Floyd Drennon wrote to Boyd Goodin: FD> Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You FD> aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to FD> send it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't? Well then there is 3 sides....While PC is for profit it is based on a margin I would assume that allows them to continue. As with any buisness if the margin falls one of two things happen. We pay more as the end user or they quit. While I too would love to have RADIST on the Bird I do understand Boyds position. Heck I use to be the HQ of RADIST and Choose (aksed) Ronnie to take it over when things became to busy at work to handle both. I also was the supply to the filebone so when I dropped that did to...Just FYI Bert --- Fmail.096/RA+ Registered * Origin: ----> Planet Connect System (910)-626-4172 <---- (1:3648/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 2755 To: DON WAYBRIGHT Date: 02/14/94 6:41p Subj: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Don! Sunday February 13 1994 18:28, Don Waybright wrote to All: DW> Hi All! DW> DW> Is there a listing somewhere of all the Fidonet Backbone echomail areas DW> that are coming in via PC? I have not yet tossed any of the mail and have DW> inquiryies at to what areas are available.. Yes.. it's called FIDONET.NA and usually arrives about the same time as the NODEDIFF.A## George Vandervort ++ QuickBBS 2.80 Ovr (Gamma-4)/Binkley 2.59wb --- Alexi/Mail 2.00a3 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 2756 To: PATRICK MARTIN Date: 02/16/94 2:03a Subj: OS2NET & ZyXNet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patrick Martin wrote in FidoNet.PLANET_CONNECT about "OS2NET & ZyXNet": > I have already seen Greg Shaffer's reply of 9 Feb to your question... > Let me state for clarification: The ZyXELNET file echos that are on > Planet_Connect are ZYXTOOL, ZYXTEXT and ZYXELROM. *I* haven't heard a For now anyways :-) > thing about the mail feed being distributed via P_C, or any of the > ZyXELNET administrative file echos for that matter. As far as I know, nobody has looked into it. --- IntuiNews 1.1 (16.09.93) * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner VBBS 28.8k VFC & 19.2k ZyXEL (1:163/139.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DON WAYBRIGHT Number: 2757 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 02/17/94 11:01p Subj: Re: Fido Backbone Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message Glenn Vermette to Don Waybright it was said: GV> Everything that is in the FIDONET.NA and FIDONET.NO lists GV> are going over the satellite. Those two files, if you don't GV> have them, are transmitted once a week....watch for them. As the Hub for my Net I get these little critters and hatch them to all point known and unknown... :) Rds, -=Don=- ... Richmond's Satellite Connection --- timEd-B11 * Origin: G.R.C. BBS <804-737-3932> (1:264/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK KENNEDY Number: 2758 To: ALL Date: 02/17/94 12:55a Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just curious. Is anyone working on bringing the Planet Connect data to UNIX systems? I have an acquaintance that seems eager to receive Planet Connect so he can get both FIDO and USENET conferences. He has a UNIX BBS, though --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: (1:124/4115.225) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2759 To: MIKE ATKINSON Date: 02/18/94 1:39p Subj: Gmd Program And Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike. MA> I've been following this thread and thought until reading this that your MA> system was just deleting without notification. Some things, yes. Dupes are an example. Large messages, no. MA> If GMD deletes a message, does it always notify the originating node? GMD always when it deletes. Who it notifies has changed, so it depends on which version you are running. The current version, 3.10, notifies the person who sent you the message. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2760 To: RON JOHNSTON Date: 02/18/94 1:42p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Planet Co Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ron. RJ> if you guys can't sway either's opinion in several RJ> rounds of off topic messages in here why don't you ... Sorry. You are correct. It doesn't seem on-topic here. There is a GMD echo on the Backbone. I'll be glad to continue there. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 2761 To: DAVE PETRUCCI Date: 02/18/94 1:44p Subj: ZOOM Conference Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave. DP> Is the ZOOM echo available in your region. If so, is it DP> being feed to PC? If not, can it? It is available in most part of R19 now, and all parts very soon (tonight?). If Boyd would like, I'd be glad to feed it to PC. The echo isn't on the Backbone yet, but from what I gather it probably will be soon and then I'd be feeding it to PC anyway. John --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RONNIE TOTH Number: 2762 To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/18/94 12:47a Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Bert, BK> Boyd I have not seen a responce to my question about RADIST and BK> weather you had contacted Ronnie at HQ? Also what if any policy do you BK> subscribe to on picking up new feeds from the appropriate HQ? Sure BK> would like to see it on here...She told me she was waiting to hear BK> from you.. Thanks and I will wait with great anticipation for your BK> reply... I waited for 6 weeks to get a reply from Boyd. He finally returned my voice messages (expensive at daytime rates) and netmails with a netmail message. His response baffled me since he said he did not want to set a precedent by polling for the files although it is general knowledge that he polls other FDNs and also has made other "special arrangements" with other FDNs. RADIST files can be picked up at any Official RADIST site and the files are being Gated into RANet, RASSnet, and other nets and are available on hundreds of systems worldwide. RADIST.ARJ (about 13k) has a current listing of sites and other info if you are running RA again. :-) Ronnie --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 * Origin: Sox! (305) 821-3317 Hialeah_FL_USA (1:135/71) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2763 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 02/19/94 5:22a Subj: QUESTION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <16 Feb 94 18:31:25>, Jim Dunmyer (1:234/2) writes: JD>> I've finally got Qmail tossing messages into the proper directories. JD>> But now I need to know how to purge all those directories. Is there JD> Upgrade to the latest version of Qmail (1.31gm?). You don't need to JD>create the directories at all for passthrough stuff, hence no need to JD>purge. Thanks for the information, Jim. I'll get a copy of 1.31gm? for sure... But, just out of curiousity, is there any better way to purge directories if someone decides to toss the mail? Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED HATFIELD Number: 2764 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 02/19/94 5:33a Subj: Satellite Dish/Plannet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <18 Feb 94 07:42:23>, Guy VanDell (1:116/80) writes: GV>FH> I guess we're agreed that it is not a clearly understood GV>FH> area. But I noticed in the PCUSENET.TXT that some of the GV>FH> alt.sex groups seem to be included. I haven't scanned the GV>FH> message packets to see if they are there, though. GV> GV>I was wondering, there is another satellite that has the full feed of GV>usenet on it, including everything. What do they do about the alt.* GV>groups? I suppose you are speaking of Pagesat. As far as I know, they carry everything. GV>Alt.* groups can be easily created, all one has to do is set it up with GV>a news server, you don't have to vote or anything. When I get some time and machine availability, I'll peruse those PCUSENET packets and see if the alt.sex messages are included. Just scholarly research, of course. :-) Fred Hatfield K8VDU @ N5UXT.LA.USA ..Basin Street Jazz from {TheBigEasy}.. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: The Digital Cottage in New Orleans 504-897-6614 (1:396/65.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 2765 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 02/18/94 5:04p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Floyd! Tuesday February 15 1994 13:25, Floyd Drennon wrote to Boyd Goodin: FD> Well, there are two sides to that coin. Most FDNs are non-profit. You FD> aren't. I can see their side of the issue also. Why should they pay to FD> send it to you when you're making money from it and they aren't? And, as a profit-seeking enterprise, it is well within their right to do whatever they want. Don't lose track of what they're doing. They're not distributing mail because it makes them feel good (unless I misunderstand their objective). If they don't pick up an FDN when they should have, the market will let them know by diminishing sales. It's as simple as that, unless you're a socialist. ;-) Later, Dave --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0214+ * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata, WA * v32b/H16 (1:3415/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 2766 To: BERT KENNEDY Date: 02/19/94 12:06p Subj: Again Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Bert, 17 Feb 94, 17:46, Bert Kennedy wrote to Floyd Drennon: BK> Well then there is 3 sides....While PC is for profit it is based on BK> a margin I would assume that allows them to continue. As with any BK> buisness if the margin falls one of two things happen. We pay more BK> as the end user or they quit. Don't you think they take that into consideration. Looks as if they have so far when they keep adding additional costs for additional services. Why should this be any different? --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 2767 To: JOHN PAUL Date: 02/20/94 9:12a Subj: ALLFIX Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No John Paul wrote in a message to Roy Timberman: JP> Yes ... but if any of your downlinks are running Raid, THEY JP> are having problems as a result of AllFix's "features" that JP> are breaking the existing software. That was the point JP> being made ... the author of AllFix apparently feels (based JP> on previous messages I've seen here) that by breaking JP> existing installations he'll coerce more people into using JP> AllFix. Personally, I'd rather see it banned from the JP> network until it is made backwards compatible with JP> older/other programs, as I *hate* to be "blackmailed" into JP> running a particular program just to avoid the problems that JP> the program itself creates. JP> Just one opinion ... Add mine to that, if someone comes along and invents new software that is not backwards compatible, then it should be banned from use, period! Echomail processors and netmail routing software, along with ARChivers and the protocols one uses on the mailer front-ends are being held to the same standards Then why isn't this new 'feature' filled app not you ask... good question... Raid and Tick work fine for me over here, and I carry *ALL* file/echo areas on the fidonet backbone/filebone, and then some... I've used it for as many years as George Peace as released it, including beta products, his applications are rock solid. Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ÄÍ[ 'dBest, Western Star, 702.656.2482 Hayes V.FC ]ÍÄ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2768 To: PAUL MALLETT Date: 02/21/94 2:02p Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Paul Mallett wrote in a message to Frank Kennedy: PM> machine. There are PD TCP/IP packages for DOS that would PM> connect the server to a Unix machine via Ethernet. Ideally PM> that's the best solution outside of native Unix software, PM> but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip programs. I have been running a dos program that works with the newsgroup message format, and its got some bad limitations... --- * Origin: Galaxy/Star Systems (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE OVERHOLT Number: 2769 To: ALL Date: 02/22/94 1:28a Subj: NEW REVISION TO MASTER.DIR AREA Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No There have been several changes recently to the MASTER.DIR file and the related files with it. Check your Skydata\Personal directory for this file and others. Boyd Goodin will be out of the office for the rest of this week. His father passed away last Saturday. --- DB B2106/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROY TIMBERMAN Number: 2770 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 02/21/94 9:05a Subj: ALLFIX Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DJ>Raid and Tick work fine for me over here, and I carry *ALL* DJ>file/echo areas on the fidonet backbone/filebone, and then DJ>some... I've used it for as many years as George Peace as DJ>released it, including beta products, his applications are rock DJ>solid. They may be working fine for you but I broke them a long time ago. They have not been sufficiently updated to handle the volume available now to the public. TICK has a 100 node limit which caused me to do a double run copying the files to a second working directory before starting. I deliver mail to 165 nodes. Tick quit working a couple of years ago. Raid doesn't seem to like the large number of file areas. I have 500+ file areas on line now and I just went ahead and put up ALLFIX when I took over the filebone distribution. Since tick was choking on the 165 nodes I didn't have much hope for raid working. George does do good work and I appreaciate it. But it didn't go far enough in these cases. I'm neither a fan of Raid/Tick or ALLFIX and in fact I would have recommended the Raid/Tick combo for a simple run of the mill net. I cannot afford that luxury now since ALLFIX is the only thing that I've found that handles the information that I need to handle. And I will say that it appears to handle it flawlessly. It also does some things that I could not have possibly hoped for and does them elegantly also. If having the program that I am using work then I guess that would entice me to be a fan of it. I care about functionality here and have of course registered the ALLFIX program. Roy Timberman 1:280/1 NEC * 1st 1.11 #106bt * How you look depends on where you go. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff013/c] * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 2771 To: ART MACK Date: 02/21/94 6:03p Subj: PLANET CONNECT-PCFU PROGRAM Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No AM> John, I tried the 1.99beta that came over the bird, the AM> -fTIC option did AM> not seem to work properly, it only moved the TIC files and The code was completed in a later version, that has been sent over the bird in the PCUTILS file area, you can also freq magic name PCFU at here for the latest update. John... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 2772 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 02/21/94 5:34p Subj: AD FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, are the AD files still restricted, or can we make them avail to our downlinks ? Regards Jerry --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Techtalk BBS, Cocoa, FL 407-635-8833 (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 2773 To: FRED HATFIELD Date: 02/21/94 5:19p Subj: QUESTION Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks for the information, Jim. I'll get a copy of 1.31gm? for > sure... > > But, just out of curiousity, is there any better way to purge > directories if someone decides to toss the mail? I used to use Bob Hartman's RENUMBER program when I tossed a few echos on the mail muncher, and it worked OK. It's easier for me to just pass them along to the BBS and let the purge functions on there take care of it. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 14+ gigs, 150,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 2774 To: MICHAEL JAMES Date: 02/19/94 5:12p Subj: Another Test! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ok... Hello everyone. I'm just testing this Planet > Connect Setup. I'd appreciate a reply. Yeah I How's it going Michael.. Seems to be working fine here.. TakeCare, Bill --- GEcho/386 1.02+ * Origin: UTI BBS / 21.6k Dual / 19.2k Satellite / (815) 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL HAYES Number: 2775 To: ALLEN CRAVENER Date: 02/21/94 11:22p Subj: Re: GMD Program and Plane Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Allen Cravener to Joe Lyda <=- AC> I was delighted when I discovered the Planet Connect Echo. [..] AC> I'm frankly just about sick of reading this junk. Agh, some sense to the topic I can understand... Whew, I was getting worried there for awhile I had gone sane... ... Abolish mornings, ReRoute Mid-days, and Party Harty in the Evening! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Master Of Illusion (214) 272-7599 (1:124/5115) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 2776 To: MIKE LESTER Date: 02/22/94 8:30p Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > PM> machine. There are PD TCP/IP packages for DOS that would > PM> connect the server to a Unix machine via Ethernet. Ideally > PM> that's the best solution outside of native Unix software, > PM> but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. > > Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip programs. > > I have been running a dos program that works with the newsgroup > message format, and its got some bad limitations... You could always look at KA9Q, Mike... --==jb==-- --- * Origin: The SANDBOX ** MultiLine TBBS ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34.28) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 2777 To: ALL Date: 02/22/94 4:37a Subj: PCFU and changed files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I seem to be having troubles with the fmlyecho.$$$ files coming in off the sat, PCFU keeps moving them to the safe directory before tick has a chance to toss them. Should I reset the dup X function lower? Russell --- GoldED 2.42.G1219+ * Origin: Black Diamond BBS - (307) 686-0940 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LESTER Number: 2778 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 02/23/94 11:41p Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No john burton wrote in a message to Mike Lester: jb> You could always look at KA9Q, Mike... Whats this? I have not heard of it.. give me a name if you have it and i will freq it... --- * Origin: Galaxy (1:170/10011) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PAUL MALLETT Number: 2779 To: MIKE LESTER Date: 02/22/94 7:18p Subj: UNIX machines Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ML> Can you sugguest a source for some of these tcp/ip ML> programs. ML> I have been running a dos program that works with the ML> newsgroup message format, and its got some bad ML> limitations... Ah, the best place to look would be on the Internet. Try ftp.wustl.edu - I don't remember the directory structure off the top of my head, something like /systems/msdos/networking perhaps. Also possibly wsmr-simtel20.army.mil. Off of the Internet? I'm not sure where you can look --- timEd/2-B11 * Origin: Radio Free Echomail! 401.941.7851 (1:323/123) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------