Archive-name: greek-faq/cultureãLast-modified: 1993/03/26ããSoc.Culture.Greek Frequently Asked Questions and Answersã========================================================ã(Culture)ã=========ãLast Change: 16 March 1993ã(no time to edit it this week! Sorry!)ããMany FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive siteãpit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directoryãpub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appearsãin the Archive-name line at the top of the article.ãThis FAQ is archived as greek-faq/cultureããThere's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message toãmail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu containing the keyword "help" (withoutãquotes!) in the message body.ããItems Changed:ã--------------ã--ããLines which got changed, have the `#' character in front of them.ãAdded lines are prepended with a `+'ãRemoved lines are just removed. Use 'diff' to locate these changes.ããI have included my comments within braces '[' and ']'.ããNikolaos Fotisãã========================================================================ããThis text is (C)Copyright 1992, 1993 of Nikolaos C. Fotis. You can copyãfreely this file, provided you keep this copyright notice intact.ããCompiled by Nikolaos (Nick) C. Fotis, e-mail: nfotis@theseas.ntua.grããPlease contact me for updates,corrections, etc.ããDisclaimer: that's only a hasty collection of texts and information as Iã(or other people) remember it, so this file is worth only what you paidãfor it (and even less! ;-) )ãã========================================================================ããSubjects:ã=========ã1. Bookstores that carry Greek booksã2. Greek cuisine -- recommended books??ã3. Greek wines -- reference book(s)ã4. The 12 Greek Gods : who are they?ã5. Greek Popular Musicã6. Athens Restaurantsã7. Greek Mythology - Various questions, reference booksã8. Travel Information -- Greeceã9. Greek shortwave (SW) stationsã10. Greek Coffee, Reading Turkish groundsã11. Ways for a Vegan to survive in Greeceã12. What was the Mythical Labyrinth??ã13. Greek Muses (in Greek)ããProposed future subjects:ã[ Please send me info to stuff these subjects!! -- nfotis]ãã Graduate studies in Greece that are interesting for non-Greeks?ã (eg. archaeology)ã Is there any decent backgammon program?ã[any ideas/info/... ??]ãã==========================================================================ããI ask the people to send me stuff in order to make this file moreãcomplete. I'm just a kind of editor, and I cannot know everything.ããYOU'll determine if this FAQ is good or not!ãã=========================================================================ãã1. Bookstores that carry Greek booksã====================================ããHere are some addresses of stores/institutionsãselling/publishing Greek books/periodicals/newsletters, in no particularãorder:ããUS/Canada :ã-----------ããUniversity of Toronto Bookstoreã214 College StreetãToronto, Ontario, Canada M5T 3A1ãtel.: (416) 978 7905 (ancient Greek)ã 978 7923 (modern Greek)ã(ask for the books used by the Classics departmentã ancient/modern Greek courses)ããModern Greek Studies AssociationãBox 1826, New Haven, Connecticut 06508ãU.S.A.ã(ask for their Journal of Modern Greek Studies,ã their newsletter, bulletin, conferences, etc.)ããPrinceton University PressãPrinceton Modern Greek Studiesã41 William StreetãPrinceton, NJ 08540ãU.S.A.ãtel.: (609) 258 4900ã (800) PRS ISBN or 777 4726 (orders)ã(ask for a list of their books on modern Greek studies)ããPella publishing company, inc.ã337 West 36th StreetãNew York, NY 10018ãU.S.A.ã(ask for a list of their books in general)ããSchoenhof's Foreign BooksãCambridge, MA.ãtel: 617-547-8855.ããGreek books can be purchased in Montreal at the Greek Community Centre.ãFor more info. (prices, etc.) write to:ããCommunaute Hellenique de MontrealãCentre des Etudes Helleniquesã5777, ave. Wilderton,ãMontreal (Quebec),ãCanada H3S 2V7ããAttn. M. ChatzinikolaouãTel. (514) 738 2421 (until 17:00 EDT)ã (514) 340 3576 (after 17:00 EDT)ããUK :ã----ãã[ Can anyone bring us the FAX/phone numbers ? - we think that the area codeã is 071, but we aren't sure ]ããThe Hellenic Book Serviceã122 Charing Cross Road WC2ãLondonãphone 836-7071ããZenoã6 Denmark Street WC2ãLondonãphone 836-2522ããKimon Bookshopã87-88 Plender Street NW1ãLondonãphone 387-8809ãããLocated in Greece:ã------------------ãOlympic Book Centerã16 Efroniouã116 34 AthensãGreeceããAvastatikes EkdoseisãBibliopwleio Diovusiou Notn KarbiaãAsklnpiou 67ãGR-106 80 A0HNAããEkdoseis - Palaiobibliopwleio "KOYLTOYRA"ãMavtzarou 4-(Solwnos 54)ãGR 106 72 A0HNAããEkdoseis - Bibliopwleio Stratns G. FilippotnsãSolwnos 69 & AsklnpiouãGR 106 79 A0HNAããEkdoseis AposperitnsãEressou 9ãA0HNAããEkdoseis DwrikosãIppokratous 72ãA0HNAããEkdoseis EpikairotntaãMauromixaln 60ãGR 106 80 A0HNAãFAX : 36.36.083 - 36.07.382ããEkdoseis Pellaã0eof. Papadopoulos & Yios O.E.ãKwletth 15 & Emm. MpevaknãA0HNAããEkdoseis StoxastnsãMauromixaln 39ãGR 106 80 A0HNAãFAX : 36.09.197ããEkdoseis KardamitsaãIppokratous 8ãGR 106 79 A0HNAããã2. Greek cuisine -- recommended books??ã=======================================ããLook at gatekeeper.dec.com (anonymous ftp), under the directoryãpub/recipes (there's also a compressed tar file that contains allãthe files). Familiar names were:ã(I just did a 'dir', and these were some names I found familiar)ããavgolemono, avgolemono-2, baklava, briami, kourabiedes, lamb-kebab,ãlasagna-1..4, margarita-1, meat-kebabs, melomacarona, moussaka,ãspanakopita, spanakopita-2ããFrom: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)ã----------------------------ããI can't attest to their authenticity, but the recipes in Jack Santa Maria'sã"Greek Vegetarian Cooking" are absolutely yummy, which is enough for me.ãIt's in print in the UK (Hutchinson, I think) and you can get it in mostãlarge bookshops.ãã3. Greek wines -- reference book(s)ã=================================ããLambert-Gocs, Miles. "The Wines of Greece". Faber & FaberãLondon, 1989(?)ããIt contains over 2 hundred Greek wine brands, their characteristics,ãhistory of large and small producers, etc.etc.ããã4. The 12 Greek Gods : who are they?ã======================================ããIt's rather easy to remember most of the 12 Gods of Greek AncientãMythology. The most easy to remember are:ããZeus, Hera, Athena, Poseidon, Aphrodite, Hephaestus, Ares, Apollo, Hermes,ãDemeter, ArtemisããThe number 12 is the most troublesome:ãã> From: cla02@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Richard Wallace)ã> Newsgroups: soc.culture.greekã> Subject: Re: REQUEST: Greek GodsããThe most usual list has Hestia as number twelve. She was the goddess ofãhearth and home, and so a rather passive figure, and from time to timeãpeople seem to have thought that she didn't really earn her place, andãput someone else in instead.ããSo far as I know, Hades is one of the twelve only in the list in Plato'sãPhaedrus (and perhaps, by implication, in the Laws),ãand there Plato makes it quite clear that HE has made theãdecision to leave Hestia out. I think Hades does not figure in theãnormal lists because they are the twelve OLYMPIAN gods, and Hades doesãnot normally come to Olympus (though Poseidon does).ããSometimes you get Dionysus instead of Hestia. He is a rather aberrantãgod anyway (either because he was a late-comer to Greek religion or forãsome other reason) - in any case he doesn't normally appear in the list.ããThere is some evidence that there was a local tradition at Olympia whichãsubstituted Kronos, Rhea, and Alpheios (the local river god) forãHephaistos, Demeter, and Hestia, and there are other cases of theãinsertion of local gods into the list in particular localities,ãpresumably out of local patriotism.ããMostly, they referred to them simply as 'the twelve', no doubt leavingãit open to each individual to write in his own list!ãã[ Personally, I feel that Dionysus was mentioned most often in theã mainland Greece mythology, at least in Attica -- nfotis ]ãããFrom: G0900@vmcms.csuohio.eduã-----------------------------ããTHE MAIN GODS AND GODDESSES OF THE ANCIENT GREEK RELIGIONããGreek Latin meaningãName Nameã--------- ------ãZeus Zeus, Jupiter Master of the sky, father of theã gods and men.ããHera Juno Wife of Zeus, protector of marriageããPoseidon Neptune Brother of Zeus, god of the seaããAthena Minerva Goddess of wisdom, protector of artsã and craftsããApollo Apollo God of the sun and musicããArtemis Diana Apollo's sister, goddess of huntingããAphrodite Venus Goddess of beauty and loveããHephaestus Vulcan God of fire, protector of metalã workersããAres Mars God of warããHermes Mercury Messenger of gods and god of tradeããDemeter Ceres Goddess of agricultureããPersephone, Kore Proserpina Demeter's daughter, queen of theã Underworldã (Hades)ãPluton, Ades Pluton King of the UnderworldããDionysus, Bacchos Bacchus God of wine, vegetation and fertilityããAsklepios Aesculapius God of medicineãã5. Greek Popular Musicã=======================ãã [This is from an article originally posted to soc.culture.greek byãJon Corelis.]ãã Greece has an exceptionally rich and varied musical tradition, soãthat it's difficult to know where to start. But the most popular Greekãmusic, both in the country and with foreigners, is probably music of theãtwo types called "rebetika" and "laika."ãã Rebetika music has sometimes been called the Greek blues, andãalthough musically it's not like the blues at all, the comparison is anãapt one in that like the blues, rebetika music grew out of a specificãurban subculture and was associated with a certain type of life-style,ãin which poverty, oppression, sex, alcohol, drugs, and violence playedãprominent roles. Rebetika music basically grew out of the culture ofãthe Greek refugees from Asia Minor in the early 1920's. These peopleãwere settled in Athens and other areas and continued to live for theãmost part in their own communities, usually under conditions of greatãhardship. They created through the fusion of the Anatolian musicalãmodes they brought with them with native mainland Greek musicalãtraditions a unique new type of music called rebetika (no one reallyãknows where the name came from) which reflected both the rough,ãoppressed condition of their lives and the resilience, toughness, andãgood humor which enabled them to survive.ãã Rebetika is also similar to the blues in the development of itsãsocial position. In the twenties and thirties it was popular with theãurban poor who created it, later it became scorned as "low-class" music,ãand then in the sixties it experienced a revival, becoming immenselyãpopular among young people, some of whom formed their own rebetika bandsãto revive the music of the great rebetika artists of the past.ãã Giving a discography for Greek music is always a bit difficult, sinceãrecords tend to rapidly go in and out of print. But I'll give the namesãof a few popular records which are probably still available. Perhapsãthe best place to start is with the soundtrack album from the filmã"Rebetiko," issued in Greece by CBS records. This film, which told theãlife story of a typical rebetika singer, included numerous musicalãnumbers, some of which were old rebetika songs, others of which wereãespecially written for the film in rebetika style. Rebetiko is one ofãthe very best Greek records ever, and remains immensely popular inãGreece.ãã For the real thing -- collections of rebetika taken from the originalãrecordings of the 1920-1950 period -- an excellent series is the sixãvolume Rebetiki Istoria, issued in Greece by EMI. If you can find allãsix of these, you'll have about the best introduction to rebetika youãcould hope for. A very interesting record issued in the U.S. isãGreek-Oriental Smyrnaic-Rebetic Songs and Dances (Arhoolie/Folkloricã9033,) which concentrates on the early rebetika style which stillãretained much of its Eastern flavor.ãã As for other records, it's probably better to give the names of someãof the better artists rather than listing individual records that mayãno longer be in print. So look for the names Toundas, Tsitsanis, MarkosãVamvakaris, Rosa Eskanazi, Sotiria Bellou, Papaiouannou, and RitaãAbatsi.ãã Fortunately for us English speakers, there exists a very good book inãEnglish on rebetika: Road to Rebetika by Gail Holst (Third ed., 1983,ãAthens, Harvey.) This book is sometimes found in university librariesãin the U.S., and can probably be obtained by your local library viaãinterlibrary loan service. You could also try writing the publisher atãDenise Harvey & Company, Lambrou Fotiadis 6, Mets, Athens 407, Greece,ãand see if you get a response. It may be a bit of trouble to track thisãbook down, but it's absolutely worth it if you want to investigate thisãtype of music.ãã The other type of music is a looser category sometimes calledã"laika," which basically means just "popular music." This is the musicã"everyone" listens to -- sort of like rock music in the U.S. And likeãrock it includes music of many different subtypes. Again, it willãprobably be better to give names rather than individual recordings.ãOne of the best, and probably the most popular, of the artists in thisãfield is George Dalaras, who has worked in a wide range of genres --ãrecently he has branched out to include Spanish music in hisãrepertoire. Another good artist, who has often worked with Dalaras, isãHaris Alexiou. These two are perhaps the best introduction to laikaãmusic at its best. A singer with a smaller but devoted following isãArleta (she goes by her first name only,) who tends to do relaxed butãoften very beautiful folk-type songs, with minimal acousticãaccompaniment. The composers Hadjidakis and Theoradakis haveãinnumerable records and have to some extent become popular outside ofãGreece.ãã Perhaps I should also note that there is a certain amount of overlapãbetween rebetika and laika: Dalaras has recorded several rebetikaãalbums, Alexiou usually includes some rebetika songs on her records, andãHadjidakis frequently uses rebetika songs as the basis for hisãorchestral arrangements.ãã A final note for anyone who plans a trip to Greece: the best placeãI've found to buy Greek music is the record shop Pop 11, at Pindarou 38ã(corner of Tsakalof) in the Kolonaki section of Athens. They have aãhuge selection, the staff are knowledgable and speak English, and theyãtake credit cards. The staff will also be able to advise you on placesãto hear rebetica and other Greek music in Athens.ãã6. Athens Restaurantsã=====================ããFrom: jon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)ãSubject: Some Athens restaurantsãDate: 28 Jun 92 17:58:44 GMTãã Here are some notes on Athens restaurants, resulting from a recentãtrip there. These restaurants are all in central Athens, and inãeach case I give the neighborhood or district where the restaurant isãlocated (most maps of Athens will indicate where these districts are.)ãExcept where otherwise noted, all the restaurants mentioned areãmoderately priced. Most are open only for dinner unless otherwiseãnoted. Many Athens restaurants are closed Sundays, so if you want toãtry one on that day you should check by phone (your hotel can usuallyãhelp you do this.) I've visited all of these places within the lastãtwo months.ãã Almost all visitors to Athens find themselves spending some time inãPlaka, the old neighborhood at the foot of the Acropolis. Plaka isãfilled with restaurants, most of them serving bad, overpriced food toãcrowds of tourists. There are some worthwhile establishments, though.ãOne of them is Zeus (in Modern Greek pronounced 'Zefs,') a pleasantãsmall restaurant high on the slope of the Acropolis which despite theãfact that it caters very much to tourists serves excellent, simple Greekãfood at reasonable prices. Tables are all outdoors, and the placeãusually isn't very crowded, probably because it's something of a climbãto get to it, and you have to pass a number of other eateries on the wayãwhose touts tend to rope in most tourists before they get to this one.ãThere are nice views from some of the tables. Try their gigantes (giantãbeans,) a traditional Greek appetizer which is better here than anywhereãelse I've had it. Open for lunch, and I assume dinner too, though I'veãnever been there at night. To get there from Plaka, find MnesikleousãStreet and follow it uphill until you can't go any farther.ãã Another touristy but good place, which is at Hadrian and Kydathinaionãstreets right in the middle of Plaka, is Costi's, which servesãtraditional, somewhat elaborate taverna food. Most tables are outdoors,ãand it's open for lunch and dinner.ãã Sigalas, at 2 Monastiraki Square on the edge of Plaka, servesãauthentic taverna food of the simpler kind in a colorful, bustlingãatmosphere at lunch and dinner. They have good barrel retsina.ãã Karavitis, at Pafsaniou and Arktinou in the Pangrati district,ãremains one of the best traditional tavernas. Open nightly includingãSunday.ãã The following restaurants are all in the Kolonaki area:ãã Demokritos, at number 23 on the street of the same name, is anãaltogether excellent taverna with particularly good barrel retsina.ãã Rodhia, at 44 Aristippou near the base of the Lykavettos funicular,ãis an upscale taverna with a limited menu -- almost everyone orders theãappetizers and the lamb with oregano -- and a very good red barrel wine.ãTry to get a table in the garden. Somewhat expensive, but worth it.ãã A long-time popular Kolonaki restaurant, Rouga, has closed. Someoneãin the neighborhood told us they thought it would be closed permanently.ãAnother old Kolonaki place, Jimmy's Cooking, has turned itself into aãsort of snack bar; I didn't try it, but it doesn't look very promisingãany more.ãã Okio, on Haritos Street, remains the best restaurant I have been toãin Greece. It's expensive, not much English is spoken, and shorts orãother very informal attire will not be in place.ãã7. Greek Mythology - Various questions, reference booksã=======================================================ããFrom: ccc@cs.toronto.edu ("Christina C. Christara")ãSubject: Re: Mythology questionsãDate: 16 Oct 92 01:12:28 GMTããkambizm@fidibus.uio.no (Kambiz Iranpour Mobarekeh) writes:ã>I am looking for the names of some mythological personalitiesã>whom I read about once. One is the guy who still rollsã>a stone up the hill again and again.ããThis is Sisyphos (Sisufos) who tried several times to avoidãdeath; he actually succeded many times. He visited Hades (Adns)ãand he found some tricks to come back to life. In ceramicãpaintings, he is depicted pushing a stone towards the topãof a mountain, and when he is almost at the end, the stoneãslips and rolls down fast. He was from Korinthos.ãHis struggle symbolises people's struggle against death,ãsomething he did not eventually avoid himself.ãã> The other is one who isã>thirsty standing in a river in Hades trying to drink water butã>the water disappears each time. What was his name?ããThis is probably Tantalos, the king of Ludia (part of Asia Minor,ãeast of Smyrna). He was invited to dinner by the Gods,ãbut he could not reach anything, neither food, nor drink.ãHe was punished so, because when he invited the Gods to dinnerãinstead of sacrificing an animal for them, he sacrificedãhis son, Pelops (Pelopas), whose name is the first partãof the name "Peloponnese." Tantalos was also punished,ãbecause he gave the recipe of ambrosia and nectarã(the food and drink of the Gods) to the people.ã(This story is similar to that of Prometheus, who gaveãfire to people).ãã> Third questionã>is was it Ogyas (or Ogias) barns which were cleaned by Hercul?ããThis must be the Avgias barns (stauloi Augeiou). Hercules (Hraklns)ãwas supposed to clean the barns of Augeias, king of Helis (Hlis),ãin western Peloponnese. This was necessary, because the dirt (shit)ãof the cows of Augeias was so much that deseases would spread to theãpeople. Hercules had 1 day to complete the job, otherwise he wouldãbe a slave (doulos) for the rest of his life. Would he completeãthe job, he would get a part of the kingdom and the daughterãof the king as his wife. Hercules did clean the barns (accordingãto some mythology version, he turned 2 rivers towards the barnsãand all dirt was gone by the water), but then Augeias did notãkeep his promise and Hercules fought against him. I don'tãremember if he won (I wasn't there, anyway :-)).ããFrom: nwbernst@unix.amherst.edu (Neil Bernstein)ã-------------------------------ã[regarding the last question]ãã Herakles (Latinized to Hercules) cleaned the stables of King Augeas.ãYou may be thinking of the island of Ogygia, where Odysseus was restrainedãby the nymph Kalypso after his Great Wanderings and before he returns toãIthaka.ãã[ nfotis: we could continue ad infinitum with Greek Mythology, whichã is *very* rich and engaging, IMHO. You're advised to read some goodã books about Greek Mythology. cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)ã suggests these two books:ãã> A good reference book for Greek mythology is Robert Graves' book the Greekã> Myths which has copious references to the original sources. Don't believe hisã> personal commentaries however as they are idiosyncratic to put itã> mildly. Another book that might interest you is H.J.Rose's A Handbook ofã> Greek Mythology.ããNote: I didn't read those books, so don't sue me it these aren't good forãyour tastes! ]ãããã8. Travel Information -- Greeceã===============================ãã[ Note: that's a time limited subject. The time you read this, it mayã be already out-of-date, so *please* check with the respective embassies/ã consulates before starting to prepare for a travel to Greece. Thisã information has a U.S. bias (of course!) ]ããNewsgroup: rec.travelãFrom: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)ã-------------------------------ããSubject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- GreeceããSTATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Greeceã============================================================ãGreece - Consular Information Sheetã October 7, 1992ããEmbassy and Consulate Locations: The U.S. Embassy in Athens isãlocated at 91 Vasilissis Sophias Boulevard; telephone (30) (1)ã721-2951. There is also a consulate in Thessaloniki at 59 LeoforosãNikis; telephone (30) (31) 266-121.ããCountry Description: Greece is a developed and stable democracyãwith a modern economy. Tourist facilities are widely available.ããEntry Requirements: A visa is not required for tourist or businessãstays up to three months. An AIDS test is required for performingãartists and students on Greek scholarships; U.S. test results areãnot accepted. For further information concerning entry requirementsãto Greece, travelers can contact the Embassy of Greece at 2221ãMassachusetts Avenue, N.W., Washington, DC 20008, tel: (202)ã939-5800, or the nearest Consulate General in Atlanta, Boston,ãChicago, Houston, New Orleans, New York, or San Francisco.ããMedical Facilities: Medical facilities are available. U.S.ãmedical insurance is not always valid outside the United States.ãTravelers have found that in some cases, supplemental medicalãinsurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.ãFurther information on health matters can be obtained from theãCenters for Disease Control's international travelers hotline onã(404) 332-4559.ããCrime Information: Greece has a low rate of crime, but someãpickpocketing, purse-snatching, and luggage theft does occur inãGreece at popular tourist areas. The Department of State's pamphletã"A Safe Trip Abroad" is availableKWARDãIN from the Superintendent ofãDocuments, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 20402.ãIt provides useful information on guarding valuables and protectingãpersonal security while traveling abroad.ããTerrorist Activities: Civil disorder is rare. However, there areãseveral active terrorist groups, including the "17 November"ãorganization, which at times has targeted U.S. government and U.S.ãcommercial interests. Between 1975 and 1991, "17 November"ãassassinated four Americans assigned to U.S. diplomatic or militaryãinstallations in Greece. Terrorists in Greece have seldom targetedãtourists.ããDrug Penalties: Penalties for possession, use, and trafficking inãillegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jailãsentences and fines. Arrestees may spend up to 18 months inãpretrial confinement.ããDual Nationality: U.S. citizens who are also considered to beãGreek citizens could be subject to compulsory military service andãother aspects of Greek law while in Greece. Those who may byãaffected can inquire at a Greek Embassy or consulate to determineãstatus. In some instances, dual nationality may hamper U.S.ãgovernment efforts to provide protection abroad.ããRegistration: Americans who register in the Consular Section ofãthe Embassy or Consulate can obtain updated information on travelãand security within the country.ããã9. Greek shortwave (SW) stationsã================================ããFrom: pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras; TA PhD)ãSubject: Re: Need Help finding SW stations!ããTry (around midnight UTC) 9.395MHz and 9.420MHz.ããOther frequencies (time is important) are 9.425MHz, 11.595MHzãand 11.645MHz (one of the last two is not the Voice of Greece,ãbut the Radio Station of Macedonia, from the city ofãThessaloniki, which simply relays the local program; can beãheard clearly in London after 1pm UTC).ãã[ Anyone who can add more?? -- nfotis ]ãã10. Greek Coffee, Reading Turkish groundsã=========================================ããwfk@cellar.org (William F. Kershner) writes:ã--------------ãã>Can anyone explain the art of fortune-telling by reading Turkish coffeeã>grounds? I enjoy my coffee metrio and would like to know more about it.ããFrom: ccc@cs.toronto.edu ("Christina C. Christara")ã------------------------ããFirst, all what you are going to read after this line is a fraud!ããThe part of the coffee cup which is positioned closest to the personãdrinking it is the part of the heart. There all the sentimentalãissues are depicted... The opposite part of the cup describes theã"professional" issues. In general it is good for the grounds not toãbe very dark. So when you drink your coffee, before it ends, shakeãit a bit, then turn it upside down, so that most grounds go away.ãYou make your future better!ããIf you have a lot of imagination you look at the shapes the groundsãhave done and talk about roads, houses, airplanes, trees, etc.ããThe bottom of the cup is the deep part of the heart... You makeãa wish and put your finger there. If the finger leaves a clear markãthen the wish will come true. If the finger does not catch all theãgrounds, then the wish will not become true ... So twist your fingerãa bit, when you put in the bottom of the cup. But do this withoutãthe person telling you your fortune to know about it!ããWell, the fraud is over.ããFrom kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)ãand jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis):ã------------------------ããThere is a monograph on the topic (in Greek) by Elias Petropoulos,ãO tourkikos kafes en elladi (Athens, Ekdoseis Grammata, 1979).ããThe monograph has lots of figures and discusses the art ofãcoffee reading in Greek prisons.ããA very interesting book, with many illustrations, including some ofãcoffee-grounds patterns with their supposed meanings. The title, ofãcourse, is deliberately provocative. In case anyone wasn't upset enoughãby it, Petropoulous makes a point of beginning his book by saying, "OiãTourkoi, opou deon na thewrountai paterades twn neoellinwn, metaksuãallwn agathwn kai deinwn pou mas eklirodotisan einai kai o kafes."ããã11. Ways for a Vegan to survive in Greeceã=========================================ããFor Vegans (NOT vegetarians - they eat cheese and eggs and milk etc.), whoãare people who don't eat animal products at all, there are some resources:ããFrom: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.eduã-------------------------------------ããWell...I just spent three weeks in Greece...most of that was spent in Athens.ãAnd I'm a vegetarian. I remember a restaurant in Plaka in Athens called Eden.ãIt's a vegan/vegetarian restaurant...priced pretty decently. They had a tonãof bizarre dishes that I'm not going to even attempt to start listing them.ãSuffice it to say that I could have eaten three meals a day there for thoseãthree weeks and never would have had to eat the same thing twice. There'sãalso a fast food restaurant chain called "Goody's"...it's alot like Wendy'sãor BK in the states. They had alot of different types of salads available.ãI usually got this one called Mexican salad...which was beans, lettuce, corn,ãradishes, and some other veggies. Anyway, those salads were completely freeãof animal products (don't order the salad dressing though!).ããAnd then you can always go to the marketplaces or supermarkets and stock upãon fresh fruits, veggies, breads, etc...those sorts of things are also readilyãavailable. Probably the only problem your students will have (and personallyãI don't consider this a problem) is that they'll have to eat a lot of rawãuncooked things...if they don't care about that though then they won't everãgo hungry!ããFrom: trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE)ã------------------------------ããWell Greeks have an intresting custom that might help. On relegeousãocasions they faast. When I mean Greeks honestly faast I mean all products thatãcome from animals with blood are excluded. A possible exception were the foodãfor fasting would not be OK is some sea food. Like kalamari or octupous. Butãthat would be obvious. So there is a range off food set up for the fasting thatãwould fit very well. I don't live in Greece now but I am sure if you askãfor food for the fasting then you should have no problem. There is quite a bitãof it.ãã12. What was the Mythical Labyrinth??ã=====================================ããFrom: nextug@ac.dal.caã----------------------ããThere seem to be two schools of thought:ããOne is that the palace at Knossos was itself also referred to as The Labyrinth.ãGerhard Sasse in his book "Crete" (APA Publications, 1990) writes:ãã"The Greek designation of part of the palace, if not the whole of it, asãthe Labyrinth, could also mean "House of the Double Axe", if the derivationãof the word labyrinth from the Anatolian word 'Labrys' (double axe) isãaccepted.ãã"In Knossos several of these artifacts were found, in the so-calledã"Shrine of the Double Axe", and the holy sign of the double axe was scored intoãpillars and on votive objects -- as in other Cretan palaces."ããOn the other hand The Labyrinth may have actually been a passageway of cavesãin close proximity to Knossos. Lawrence Durrell in his book "The Greek Islands"ã(Vicking Press, New York, 1978) writes:ãã"To revert for a moment to the vexing question of the labyrinth, it isãimportant to make a distinction between a man-made maze and a labyrinthãconstructed by nature; and the natural geological labyrinth situated nearãGortyna has for long been a candidate for the honours of being the originalãlair of the Minotaur. Sceptics have declared that it is simply an abandonedãquarry with a few corridors but, while I have not completely explored itãmyself -- for lack of an Ariadne and a ball of thread -- I think it is moreãsuggestive than that.ãã"I can vouch ... for the fact that the place is known as "TheãLabyrinth" in the local speech. To the best of my knowledge the whole of itãhas never been explored, though the villagers thereabouts claim the internalãnetwork of corridors span an area of some ten kilometers. One must, as always,ãsubtract a bit of peasant exaggeration, but nevertheless the place isãimpressive ..."ããA certain Reverend Tozer who wrote a travel book in the 19th century (haven'tãthe reference at hand) wrote:ãã"Our host, Captain George, undertook to be our guide and accordinglyãnext morning we started in his company and, fording the stream closeãunder the Acropolis of Gortyna, ascended the hills towards the north-westãand in an hour's time reached the place ... It is entered by an aperture ofãno great size in the mountainside, where the rocks are of clayey limestone,ãforming horizontal layers; and inside we found what looks almost like aãflat roof, while chambers and passages run off from the entrance in variousãdirections ... We were furnished each with a taper and descended by aãpassage on both sides of which the fallen stones had been piled up; the roofãabove us varies from four to sixteen feet in height. Winding about, weãcame to an upright stone, the work of a modern Ariadne, set there to showãthe way, for at intervals other passages branched off the main one, andãanyone who entered without a light would be hopelessly lost. CaptainãGeorge described to us how for three years during the late war (1867-9)ãthe Christian inhabitants of the neighbouring villages, to the number ofãfive hundred, and he among them, had lived there as their predecessorsãhad done during the former insurrection, to escape the Turks who hadãburned their homes and carried off their flocks and herds ..."ããIf you wish to pursue this issue seriously I would reccommend you go to yourãlocal library and do some research. A couple of books that might get youãstartedã (in addition to the ones already cited):ããAUTHOR: Bord, Janet, fl. 1972-ãTITLE: Mazes and labyrinths of the world /ãIMPRINT: London : Latimer New Dimensions, 1976.ããAUTHOR: Matthews, William Henry, 1882-ãTITLE: Mazes and labyrinths : their history and development /ãIMPRINT: New York : Dover Publications, 1970.ããAUTHOR: Doob, Penelope Reed.ãTITLE: The idea of the labyrinth from classical antiquity through the Middle A>ãIMPRINT: Ithaca : Cornell University Press, 1990.ããI don't know anything about the "Cave of the Cyclops" near Sougia. Are youãcertain that it exists? I'd be surprised if there were any pictures of itãeven if it does exist, let alone ones available via ftp.ããNot far away (a few km from Asogires, to the west of Sougia) is the well knownãCãave of Soure in which the 99 Holy Fathers lived. Also east of Rodovani (alsoãwest of Sougia) is the Cave of Skotini in which ceramic remains from theãClassical epoch (550-67 B.C.) have been found. To the east is the world famousãSamaria Gorge and en route is the Tzanis Cave where legend has it that onãmoonless nights a shepherd, enchanted by a water sprite, plays his lyre andãsings of sorrow ...ããGood luck!ããChristopher Majka.ãã13. Greek Muses (in Greek)ã==========================ã[ Can anyoe make an acceptable translation?? - nfotis ]ããFrom: peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU (Peter Vafeades)ã-----------------------------ããMouses, oi: 0ugateres tns Mvnmosuvns kai tou Dia n' tns Armovias n' tou Ouravouãkai tns Gaias, 0eotntes tns poinsns, tns mousikns, tou xorou, tns astrovomiasãkai gevika twv texvwv kai twv epistnmwv. O ari0mos tous poikillei: alloteãtreis, allote efta kai telika oi e3ns evvia:ããKalliopn, n spoudaiotern apo oles, prostatria tns epikns poinsnsãKleiw tns Istorias,ãEUTERPH tns mousikns,ãPolumvia twv umvwv kai tns mimikns,ãTeryixorn tou xorou kai tns xorikns poinsns,ãEratw tns lurikns poinsns,ãMelpwmevn tns tragwdias,ã0aleia tns kwmwdias kaiãOuravia tns astrovomias.ããArxngos tous 0ewrouvtav o Apollwvas (Mousngetns). Topos latreias tous ntavãektos apo tov omwvumo lofo stnv A0nva kuriws o Elikwvas stn Boiwtia. OiãarxaioiãEllnves tous eixav afierwsei tis pnges Agavippn kai Ippokrnvn. Agapnmevoi tousãtopoi e3allou ntav o Parvassos kai oi Delfoi (0eog. 1 k. e3. 52.75 k.a. Om Um.ã25. Apollod. A13)ãã======================================================================ããEnd of Cultural Part of the FAQã-- ãNick (Nikolaos) Fotis National Technical Univ. of Athens, GreeceãHOME: 16 Esperidon St., InterNet : nfotis@theseas.ntua.grã Halandri, GR - 152 32 UUCP: mcsun!ariadne!theseas!nfotisã Athens, GREECE FAX: (+30 1) 77 84 578ã