Archive-name: hongkong-faq/part2ăLast-modified: Sun Aug 23 17:42:31 EDT 1992ăVeăsion: 2.1ăăă O F F I C I A L ăă FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) ăă FOR ăă SOC.CULTURE.HONGKONGăăă PART II - CHINESE COMPUTINGăăPlease contact me if you are the original author of any of the ăquestion/answer I use in this FAQ. I would like to give theăcredit back to the original author where it belongs.ăăAlso, I am looking for someone who will take care of this portion ofăthe FAQ for me. If you would like to volunteeră please contactăJohn Ho at "john@jho.com".ăăFor nowă if you have any questions regarding addition/deletion/modificationăto this FAQă please contact me at "john@jho.com". Your commentsăwill be appreciated.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ăăăTABLE OF CONTENTS:ăă1000) GENERAL INFORMATION:ă1001) What do I need to read/write a Chinese file with pc/mac/unix/vax/...?ă1002) Where can I find more Chinese softwares in public domain?ă1003) Where can I find more commercial Chinese softwares?ă1004) Where can I find information about usage frequency of Chineseăcharacters?ă1005) What is GBă BIG5ă Unicode and other coding systems?ă1006) How to convert GB/Big5 to dot matrix? ă1007) What is "hz2PS"? ă1008) What is Cxterm?ă1009) What is Celvis? ă1010) What is Cemacs?ă1011) What is ChTex? ă1012) What is ChiRK?ă1013) What do I use under VMS? ă1014) What is CCNET? How can I subscribe it?ă1015) Can someone tell me something about Chinese Windows 3.0?ă1016) Where can I find a public domain Chinese Chess program? ă1017) Where can I find a Luna Calendar software? ă1018) Are there any other China/Chinese related interest groups? ă1019) How do you use these Chinese softwares with the email programs?ă1020) Which Chinese editor support kterm? ă1021) Does that mean Japanese are more influencial in X environment?ă1022) How come the Japanese can read/post news in Japanese?ă1023) What software do I need in order to bring up a Chinese xtermăenvironment?ă1024) Is there any TeX/LaTeX like Chinese document preparation system?ă1025) Where can I find the Chinese software?ă1026) Are there any other Chinese oriented on-line service? ă1027) What is MULE?ă1028-1999) RESERVEDăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1000) GENERAL INFORMATION:ă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1001) What do I need to read/write a Chinese file with pc/mac/unix/vax/...?ăă One can read/write/print a Chinese file only if he/she has accessă to one of the following:ă a) PCă b) Apple Macintoshă c) Unix workstation or an X Terminal. Examples of such hardwareă are Sun, HP WorkStation, Appollo, DecStation (running Ultirx),ă IBM-RT (running AIX), SGI IRIS, Tektronix stations, etc.ă d) VT-240 terminal on VAX/VMS machineă e) Atari systemă f) PostScript (laser) printerăă For detailed information/help, please E-mail to:ăă LISTSERV@UGA.BITNETăă The mail body should contain one or more lines of the following commandsă (text after "--" are commentsă therefore should not be in email)ăă GET PC HELP -- PC Users Help File (by Ruopeng Zhuă Jian Ding)ă GET MAC HELP -- Mac Users Help File (by Jack Sun)ă GET CXTERM HELP -- X-Window CXTERM Help File (by Yongguang Zhang)ă GET XHZVIEW HELP -- X-Window XHZVIEW Help File (by Stephen Simpson)ă GET GB2PS HELP -- GB to PostScript Format Convertion (by Ruopeng Zhu)ăă GET HELP INDEX -- Index of the whole help package in addition to theă above help filesă ă [compiled from introduction materials to Hua Xia Wen Zhaiă whose ă official English title is CND Chinese Magazine. All the help filesă listed above were written by HXWZ volunteers. Readers can get a listă of help files by sending command 'index ccman-l' to listserv@uga.bitnet.ă Thanks to Minghui Yao for his corrections.]ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1002) Where can I find more Chinese softwares in public domain?ă ă Here are some useful anonymous ftp sites for Chinese related software:ăă ahkcus.org [192.55.187.25]ă This is the KING site of Chinese computing.ă [Directories indicated in parentheses]ă Articles in BIG5 from HKU (big5/),ă IFCSS Newsletters in GB (gb/ifcss-nl/),ă CND Chinese Magazine in GB & postscript (gb/cnd-cm/)ă CND Chinese Magazine(uuencoded) (cnd-cm/)ă CND archives(English) (cnd-g/, cnd-us/, cnd-ca/, cnd-ep/, cnd-packages)ă HKU Chinese News utilities, GB<->BIG5 conversion utilities foră unix, vms, Mac and PC (src/unix, src/vms/,src/Mac, src/pc/),ă BYX1.1 Chinese Editor (src/pc/)ă NJSTAR2.0 Chinese Editor (src/pc/NJSTAR)ă CWP1.2 Chinese Editor (src/pc/CWP)ăă blackbox.hacc.washington.edu [128.95.200.1]ă pub/poorman/ă poor man's Chinese and Japanese TeX.ăă chiris.stevens-tech.edu [192.12.216.114]ă ChTeXă (As of Nov 1990 chiris.stevens-tech.edu directories are locked.ă I don't know when or if they will be open again.ă If you ftp there, the username is supposed to be "ftp" asă opposed to "anonymous".)ăă crl.nmsu.edu [128.123.1.14]ă pub/chinese/ă pub/chinese/fonts/ă pub/misc/ă Chinese X11 fonts, ChTeX, kterm 4.1.2, cxterm, celvisă dvi2ps that works with ChTeXă Byx 1.1 (Chinese editor for PC DOS)ăă cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]ă pub/ygz/ă cxterm, celvis, cemacs, cclib16* fontsăă ftphost.cac.washington.edu [128.95.112.1]ă pub/ă chinese.tar.Z - assorted programs [some programs are the outdatedă stuff from old site "june.cs.washington.edu"- The ă site has been deleted now]ăă hanauma.stanford.edu [36.51.0.16]ă pub/zhongwen/ă beijing24.bdf, Pinyin pronunciation tablesăă Pinyin->GB code tableăăă [This file was originally compiled by Stephen G Simpson. Thanks to ă Lite Lină Xiaofei Wangă Ricky Yeung and Stephen G Simpson for pointing ă out some outdated sites and files]ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1003) Where can I find more commercial Chinese softwares?ă {N.B} Many information here are compiled from past postings or privateă emails, some of them are already outdated. Please check for latest info.ăă Here are some commercial publications:ăă *** China Books & Periodicals ă 2929 24th Streetă San Francisco, CA, 94110;ă phone (415) 282-2994ăăă Name of software / hardware requirements / costăă 1. TianMa II+ / IBM & compatibles, graphics card / $695ă 2. ReadyPage / IBM & compatibles, hard disk, graphics card / $595ă 3. BrushWriter 4 / Mac 512K, 2 floopies or hard drive || IBM & compatibles,ă graphics card / $599 (Mac), $750 (IBM) (PS/2 version available)ă 4. MisHu 2.0 / Mac 512K, 2 floopies or hard drive / $89 ($59 with studentă id)ă 5. PX Magic Typist / IBM & compatibles / $99ă 6. PX Chinese Magic Typist For TianMa II / IBM & compatibles / $199ă 7. Dr Kompac's Computerized Chinese-English English-Chinese Dictionary,ă version 2.0 / IBM & compatibles, hard disk, graphics card / $89ăă Also shown in the catalog with little description:ă 1. FeiMa / PS/2 || Mac / no price givenă 2. Rapid Voice Authoring System / IBM / $300ăă They also mention 2 programs for learning Chinese:ă 1. ChinEase / IBM & compatibles, graphics card / $49.95ă 2. Chinese-English Hypercard Flashcards / Mac Plus and above / $99.95ăă [from Harlan Seyfer , 24 Jan 90. {N.B} This fileă is certainly outdated, but at least it can give you some hints. Willă any kind soul mail me any up-to-date info? Thanks]ăă ---------ă Get "Duke Chinese Typist" (for $25) fromăă *** 2111 Campus Driveă Duke Universityă Durham, NC 27706ă ă ---------ă Get Chinese Windows 3.0A fromăă *** Information Integration, Inc.ă East Coast: (301)840-8977 (ask Sheena)ă West Coast: (415)840-1320 (ask Eric)ă On the ad:ă *All MS Windows 3.0 features, adding Chinese input and output capabilityă *Three fonts (Ming, Yuan[round] and Hei[black] Ti), scalableă *Screen input, CangJie, Fast, Inercode, ZhuYină *Free wordprocessing, drawing and form applicationsă *for businessă *for child educationăă Also available: traditional<->simplified ZhiKu (fonts?), PinYină input, handwriting input, Chinese OCR.ăă ---------ă *** Abestă 83-09 Northern Blvdă Jackson Heights, NY 11372ă (718)507-8485, fax:507-7795ă It carries the whole line of ET productsăă ---------ă Get "Byx 2.1" fromăă *** P.O.Box 8012ă Berkeley, CA 94707ăă (415)526-2576 (west coast) or ă (617)424-1592 (east coast)ăă More Contact Information:ăă MAILING: YONGXING/SANS SOFTWAREă P.O. BOX 1462ă BROOKLINE, MA 02146ăă PHONE/FAX: (617)-424-1592ăă Developers: Yan Yongxin: (301)-220-3079 (Eastern time)ă Zhao Sanping: (617)-424-1592 (Eastern time)ăă More Information about BYX 2.1, see the file in the following site:ăă Site: ahkcus.org [ 192.55.187.25 ]ă Directory: src/pc/BYXă File: XLBRinfo-BYX21.zipăă Site: crl.nmsu.edu [ 128.123.1.14 ]ă Directory: pub/chineseă File: XLBRinfo-BYX21.zipăăă [from Rupert Zhu, University of Waterloo, August 2, 1991]ăă --------ă You can get FoChinese editor and software, you may contactă Right Track Computer, 818-443-9991ăă --------ă You can get E-Ten for $88.00 and another $5.00 for UPS Next Day Shipping.ă fromăă *** Pacific Rim Connectionă 3030 Atwater Driveă Burlingame, CA 94010ă (415)-697-0911, Fax:697-9439ăă Remember most of the softwares Pacific Rim has are sold by otheră sources. However, Pacific Rim has the largest collection ofă oriental language related softwares. Most of the softwares areă for IBM PC. Many of them have Mac versions.ăăPlease note that I have no connection with Pacific Rim Connection, Inc.ăăă Available from Pacific Rim OthersăăChinese Word BrushWriter 4.5, TianMa II+, FeiMa, ET, 5-StrokeăProcessing Easyword, Mishu Chinese Accessory for (WuBiXing), Byxăand Desktop Mac, MacChinese, Ready Page, Pinxxiee, (XiaLiBaRen),ăPublishing Jiejing (Shortcut), Chinastar II-5565 DukeWrite?(from Duke),ă Ch-series, CPTS,ă BishengăăDataBaseăăSpread Sheet AhMei (Chart)ăand Graphicsăăaccounting (Office Plus)ăăDraw and Art(AhTu)ăPaintăăEducation, Book of Chang: I-Ching, ChinEASE,ăChinese Bilingual Scholar, Rapid Voice Card,ăTutoring Chinese Pronunciation, Chinese Survivală Manual & Language Lab, Chineseă Flashcard StackăăGame Xi'an 3.0, Contender GO (new 3-D) Goăă [from Pacific Rim Connections' catalog, posted by some netlanders]ăă-------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1004) Where can I find information about usage frequency of Chineseăcharacters?ăă Here are some:ăă - A Dictionary of Chinese Character Information, Farton-Science Press Ltdă Shanghai, 1346 pp. (han4zi xin1xi zi4dian3) in Chinese. It containsă some 10.000 characters. The frequency is given for the more importantă characters. For the rarely used characters it is anyway not of much useă to give a certain frequency. The book should be available from:ă International Sales and Marketing Departmentă SCIENCE PRESSă Beijingă People's Republic of Chinaă for US$ 28.-. The data should also be available on tape, but the prizeă seems to be very high.ă ă - Bei Guiqin and Zhang Xuetao: Hanzi Pindu Tongji (Chinese Characteră Frequency Statistics) published by the Dianzi Gongye Chuban Sheă (Electronic Industry Publishing Company), 1988, 310 pp. (ISBNă 7-5053-0147-11). This book is based on the famous character statisticsă of the middle 70ies. Although the 6000 most frequently used charctersă are aranged acording to their frequency, the book contains anăalphabeticală pinyin index.ă ă - Bo Yonghe: Hanzi Shuxing Zidian (Chinese Character Atribute Dictionary),ă 1989, 1906 pp. Contains a radical index to the main body. There are alsoă data on character frequency.ă ă [from A06G@DHBRRZ41.BITNET (Urs)] ăă-------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1005) What is GB, BIG5, Unicode and other coding systems?ăă GB is the official standard in mainland China, and an unofficială standard in places where simplified Chinese characters are used, suchă as Singapore and among mainland Chinese resident abroad. Don't use ită unless your system is geared exclusively toward simplified characters.ă GB does not distinguish between traditional characters that correspondă to the same simplified character (such as mian4 ("face") and mian4ă ("noodle, wheat")).ăă BIG5 is the official standard in Taiwan and an unofficial standard ină other places where traditional characters are used, e.g. Hong Kong.ă It has codes for almost twice as many characters as GB.ă ă JIS is the official standard in Japan for Japanese. Although ită includes Japanese kanji, I believe it excludes even some commonly usedă Chinese characters.ă ă Unicode is an international standard for character representation. ă It incorporates codes for simplified Chinese characters, ă traditional Chinese characters, Japanese, Korean, andă virtually all alphabets used anywhere in the world. But the codeă order is not necessarily related to GBă BIG5ă or JIS.ăă-------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1006) How to convert GB/Big5 to dot matrix? ăăThere are many ways of doing ită one way to do in unix is:ăăb2g -b GB_File | readnews > ASCII_Fileă GB --> Big5 --> ASCIIăăb2g is available via anonymous ftp in the src/unix subdirectory atăahkcus.org [192.55.187.25].ăăreadnews is available via anonymous ftp in the src/pc/hku subdirectoryăat ahkcus.org [192.55.187.25]. [ It is in pc directory but the sourceăcode can be compiled on unix. ]ăă[From xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu]ăăPlease also note that you can convert BIG5 to ASCII directly from hzview.ăă[danj1@ihspa.att.com (Dan Jacobson)]ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1007) What is "hz2PS"? ăăHz2ps 2.1 is a slightly enhanced version of hz2ps 2.0.ăSince the release of version 2.0 about a year ago, many users haveăexpressed their wish to print only a selected range of pages, in additionăto the whole file. Hence, we have this new version.ăăIf only ONE page is converted, the output PostScript file should conformăto Encapsulated PostScript file version 3.0 (EPSF-3.0).ăThis format facilitates inclusion of the EPS file into other documents.ăFor example, you can include the file as a figure using psfig in LaTeX.ăăThe program supports both horizontal and vertical printing mode with orăwithout page numbers. Other printing options and fonts can also beăselected. Please see the man page "hz2ps.1" for details.ăăThe program "hz2ps 2.1" is now available on the ftp site "ahkcus.org".ă(ftp as user anonymous with no need of a password)ăThe files areăahkcus.org: src/unix/hz2ps-2.1.tar.Zăahkcus.org: src/unix/hzfont.tar.ZăăEnjoyăăăFung F. Lee ~{@n7c7e~}ăăăP.S. Another PS converter "gb2ps" by Wei Sun is also in the same directory.ă-------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1008) What is Cxterm?ăă Cxterm is a Chinese xterm for X11 window systemă which supportsăboth GuoBiao (GB2312-1980) encoding and the Big5 encoding. There areăcurrently 12 hanzi input methods. Users can redefine any existingăinput methods or create their own onesă by writing input table filesăand load them at run time.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1009) What is Celvis? ă ă Celvis is a Chinese version of the Unix editor vi/ex. It can edităChinese textă English textă or the mixture of both. It runs on cxtermăor other Chinese systems (e.g. ETen DOS).ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1010) What is Cemacs?ăă Cemacs is a Chinese version of the editor emacs.ă ă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1011) What is ChTex? ăă ChTeX is a Chinese version of TeX/LaTeXă a widely used typesetingăsystemă Poorman's TeX is another version of TeX which also supportsăChinese.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1012) What is ChiRK?ă ChiRK stands for "CHInese Reader on teKtronics compatible graphicsăterminals". It's a UNIX based program for displaying GouBiao (GB) or BIG5ăencoded Chinese Characters in both 8bit (raw) and 7bit (HZ or zW encoding)ăformat on terminals capable of emulating Tektronics 401x graphics. Those areăthe most common types of graphics terminals around.ăă ChiRK 1.2 has been tested and works without any ( yet) problem onăfollowingăterminals: Tektronics 4010/4014; GraphOn 225, 230, 140; DEC VT240, VT330/340;ăXTerm; Tektool on SunView; EM4105 on IBM-PC; VersaTerm-Pro on Macintosh, etc.ăAnd it should work on any other type of Tek compatible terminal with few,ăif any, lines of the codes changed.ăă ChiRK 1.2 now works with USENET Read-News( rn) and UNIX Mail without theăeffort of saving the messages containning HZ/zW encoded Chinese texts.ăă When reading GuoBiao encoded Chinese characters, you have the option ofăchoosing a vector font (cclib.v), which works faster, or one bitmap fontă(cclib.16)ă which may look nicer on some of the terminals; or one traditională(FanTi) font (cclibf.16). Only a bitmap font (chinese.16) is available forădisplaying BIG5 encoded characters. The default screen will display 40ăChinese charactersă or 80 ASCII characters per lineă and 18 lines each screen.ăă[eric@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Bo Yang)]ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1013) What do I use under VMS? ăă Digital Asia Region, have DECwrite/Hanzi (for simplified ChineseăChar in GB standard internal code) and DECwrite/Hanyu (for TraditionalăChinese Char in TW's internal code) running on either DECwindow orăDECwindow Motifă they are all based on X11ă on both DECstation whichărun Ultrix and VAXstation which run VMS or Ultrix. It's more than aăword processoră but a typesetting system.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1014) What is CCNET? How can I subscribe it?ăă The Chinese Computing Network (CCNET) is a computer network forum onă technologies relating to the use of Chinese on computers. It coversă a broad range of topics from the technologies for Chinese word processingă to desktop publishing, both software and hardware.ăă The articles in this forum may include:ă a) News of new softwareă hardwares and technologies;ă b) Product reviews;ă c) New ideasă inspirations;ă d) Comments;ă e) Questions and Answers.ăă To subscribe to CCNETă send commandă SUB CCNET-L your nameă toă LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET or LISTSERV@UGA.UGA.EDUăă [compiled from the welcome message when subscribing to CCNET]ă ă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1015) Can someone tell me something about Chinese Windows 3.0?ăă Chineses Windows 3.0 - the general feedback is good, someăimprovements to be made include scalable font, more Chinese fontsăămore input methods. And some applicationsă like Words for Windowsădoes not support Chineseă and Corel-Draw does not use the systemăChinese font.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1016) Where can I find a public domain Chinese Chess program? ăă Haiying Wang wrote a cchess program for sun/4ă the binary can beăanonymously ftp-ed from menaik.cs.ualberta.ca [129.128.4.241] asă/pub/CChess.tar.Z. It is not a freeware though the binary isădistributedă readers say it is buggy.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1017) Where can I find a Luna Calendar software? ăă*The software is available on the anonymous ftp server ahkcus.orgă*as src/unix/lunar-2.1.tar.Zăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1018) Are there any other China/Chinese related interest groups? ăă [From: hartmut bohn ldv ă OR: bohn%utrurt@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de]ăăCCMAN-Lă-------ăPurpose: An electronic magazine published weekly ină the Chinese language. Viewing software is providedă for a wide variety of terminals.ăLocation: USA (University of Georgia)ăModerated: Yesă published by CNDăSubscription: "SUB CCMAN-L " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CCMAN-L@UGA.BITNETă or: CCMAN-L@UGA.CC.UGA.EDUă 2. Server: LISTSERV@UGA.BITNETă or: LISTSERV@UGA.CC.UGA.EDUă 3. Organised by: CNDă 4. Moderator: cnd-cm@sdsc.edu ăăCCNET (Chinese Computing Network)ă---------------------------------ăPurpose: The Chinese Computing Network is a computer networkă forum on technologies relating to the use ofă Chinese on computers.ăLocation: USA (New York)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: "SUB CCNET-L " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CCNET-L@UGA.BITNETă or: CCNET-L@UGA.UGA.EDUă 2. Server: LISTSERV@UGA.BITNETă or: LISTSERV@UGA.UGA.EDUă 3. Organised by: INR@UGA.BITNET (Weihe Guan)ăăCHINAă-----ăPurpose: Discussions on topics related toă Chinese StudiesăLocation: USA (Princeton University)ăModerated: YesăSubscription: 1. "SUB CHINA " to serveră 2. The moderator sends the list guidelinesă 3. send acknowledgement to moderatorăAddresses: 1. List: CHINA@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDUă 2. Server: LISTSERV@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDUă 3. Organised by: q4356@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU *ă 4. Moderator: q4356@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDUă * Tom Nimick and David C. WrightăăCHINA-NT (China Net)ă--------------------ăPurpose: For IFCSS (Independent Federation of Chineseă Students and Scholars)ăLocation: USA (University of Georgia)ăModerated: Currently noăSubscription: "SUB CHINA-NT " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CHINA-NT@UGA.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@UGA.BITNETă 3. Organised by: China-Net Management Comittee (CNMC)ă 4. Moderator: net-cord@lab.ultra.nyu.edu (CNMC)ăăCHINANETă--------ăPurpose: Networking in ChinaăLocation: USA (Texas A&M University)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: "SUB CHINANET " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CHINANET@TAMVM1.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@TAMVM1.BITNETă 3. Organised by: X040BK@TAMVM1.BITNET (Butch Kemper)ăăCHPOEMă------ăPurpose: Exchange and discuss your favourite Chinese poemsă - classical or modern.ăLocation: USA (State University of New York at Buffalo)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: "SUB CHPOEM-L " to serverăAddresses: List: CHPOEM-L@UBVM.BITNETă Server: LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNETă Listowner: xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wang Xiaofei)ăăCND Canadaă----------ăPurpose: Relay CND-Global for Canadian Readersă andă local news for and about Chinese in CanadaăLocation: Canada (University of Victoria)ăModerated: YesăSubscription: "SUB CNC-L " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CNC-L@UVVM.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@UVVM.BITNETă 3. Organised by: CNDă 4. Moderator: cnd-canada@sdsc.edu ăăCND-EPă------ăPurpose: China News Digest - European/Pacific BranchăLocation: USA (Indiana University)ăModerated: YesăSubscription: "SUB CND-EP " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CND-EP@IUBVM.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@IUBVM.BITNETă 3. Organised by: CNDă 4. Moderator: cnd-ep@sdsc.edu ăăCND-Global (China News Digest - Global)ă----------------------------------------ăPurpose: Provides daily news digest about what isă happening in China.ăLocation: USA (Arizona State University)ăModerated: YesăSubscription: "SUB CHINA-NN " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CHINA-NN@ASUACAD.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNETă 3. Organised by: CNDă 4. Moderator: cnd-editor@sdsc.edu ăăCND-US (China News Digest - US)ă-------------------------------ăPurpose: News and information for and about Chineseă students and scholars in the USăLocation: USA (Kent State University)ăModerated: YesăSubscription: "SUB CHINA-ND " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: CHINA-ND@KENTVM.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@KENTVM.BITNETă 3. Organised by: CNDă 4. Moderator: cnd-us@sdsc.edu ăăEMEDCH-Lă--------ăPurpose: Discussions on Early Medieval ChinaăLocation: USA (University of Southern California)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: "SUB EMEDCH-L " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: EMEDCH-L@USCVM.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@USCVM.BITNETă 3. Organised by: Ken KleinăăTWUNIV-Lă--------ăPurpose: Chinese Scholars and Students Discussion List.ă Discussion on scholarly topics. No politicsăăLocation: Taiwan (Ministry of Education)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: "SUB TWUNIV-L " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: TWUNIV-L@TWNMOE10.BITNETă 2. Server: LISTSERV@TWNMOE10.BITNETă 3. Owner: NCUS002@TWNMOE10.BITNETăăZHONGWENă--------ăPurpose: Information and discussions on "Chinese Computing"ă with special attention to Europe.ă Also maintains a ftp archive for Chinese relatedă software.ăLocation: Sweden (Royal Institute of Technology)ăModerated: NoăSubscription: E-mail to server (in natural language :-)ăAddresses: 1. List: zhongwen@NADA.KTH.SEă 2. Server: zhongwen-request@nada.kth.seă 3. Organised by: mrfung@NADA.KTH.SE (Lars E. Frederiksson)ă paf@NADA.KTH.SE (Patrik Faltstrom)ă 4. FTP archive: ftp.kth.se <130.237.72.201>ă directory: CJKăăNIHONGO (Japanese Language Discussion List)ă-------------------------------------------ăPurpose: Discussions on all aspects of the Japaneseă languageăLocation: USA (MIT)ăModerated: noăSubscription: "SUB NIHONGO " to serverăAddresses: 1. List: NIHONGO@MITVMA.MIT.EDUă 2. Server: LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDUă 3. Organised by: STRAZ-SUPPORT@CS.MEDIA-LAB.MEDIA.MIT.EDUă (Steve Strassman)ă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1019) How do you use these Chinese softwares with the email programs?ăă You can directly mail a Chinese letter if the mailer would not stripăthe most significant bits. Unfortunatelyă most of the internetămailers (SMTP) running today WILL do the stripping. Inside myăcompanyă all the eight bits in the bytes are transmitted intact. So Iăcan enjoy sending Chinese e-mails internally. I believe more and moreănew SMTP programs will support full 8 bits since ASCII is no longerăthe only information been transmitted. Does anybody know about X.400?ăDoes it strip MSBs? My guess is not.ăăOne way of sending Chinese letters between Unix systems is to uuencodeăthe mails. The receiving side needs to uudecode it to be able to readăit. You can use other programs such as btoa/atob but they are not asăconvenient as uuencode/uudecode.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1020) Which Chinese editor support kterm? ăă Celvis works with kterm. But I would suggest to use cxterm instead ofăkterm. The input conversion is builtin in cxtermă so the separatedăinput server for kterm is not needed in cxterm. There is X11 font forătraditional Chinese charactersă hku-ch16.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1021) Does that mean Japanese are more influencial in X environment?ă than Chinese/Taiwanese/HKer?ăă The problem is that no one directly submits Chinese font to XăConsortium for contribution. And X Consortium doesn't take publicădomain font. I wonder if any Chinese/Taiwan/HK company wants to makeătheir copyrighted fonts available to X. But Japanese and Korean did.ăThere are Japanese and Korean fonts in X11R5 distributionă but noăChinese font.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1022) How come the Japanese can read/post news in Japanese?ăă The reason why you can e-mail Japanese letters and articles is ăthat kterm supports Shift-EUC code. The kterm input process wouldăautomatically convert 8 bit code into 7 bit code by inserting a zeroăbit every 7 bits. The result is a file size increase of one seventh.ăThe kterm at the receiving end knows how to read Shift-EUC code.ăă Again, the current design of cxterm does not provide such ăautomatic shifting capability. So you need to hand convert the 8 bitărepresentation to 7 bit representation by, say, uuencode.ăă Howeveră it is not entirely hopeless. If you use emacsă or cxemacsăfor cxtermă you probably can write some emacs lisp code to process theăconversion. I have been thinking of doing that and I promise once Iăget it done I will share with everybody.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1023) What software do I need in order to bring up a Chinese xterm environment?ăăa) cxterm (Chinese xterm emulator) for displaying Chinese characters,ăb) celvis (Chinese vi clone) or cemacs (Chinese emacs) for editing ă Chinese text files,ăc) Chinese fonts, like cclib16fs(simplified), hku-ch16(traditional,ăd) Chinese input methodsă like PinYin etc. This is sometimes calledă dictionaryă dictsă etc and may already be in the cxterm files.ăă Be sure to ftp files names README or how-to-make for instructions onăhow to build the softwares on your systems and what each file is.ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1024) Is there any TeX/LaTeX like Chinese document preparation system?ăăWe have ChTeX and Poor Man's Chinese. The latest version is Simpson'săextension Poor Man's Chinese, which can deal with both GB and BIG-5.ăIt can be used just like english TeX/LaTeX: processed by normal "tex"ăcommand (must be TeX3.1 or higher), previewed by normal "xdvi", printăout by usual "dvips" (not dvi2ps).ăăWhat you need is just to get those Chinese TeX/LaTeX fonts (tfm andăpk) and two TeX marcos (pmCs.tex and pmCb.tex) and put them somewhereă"tex" can find (define TEXINPUTS and TEXFONTS under unix). After thatăevery thing is just like the normal TeX/LaTeX. Of course, you wouldăhave to use some chinese editor to edit those chinese (f.ex. cxterm).ăSimpson's extension have the best set of traditional Chineseăcharacters I ever seen, and there is also possible for both GB andăBIG-5 appear in the same document which no other current system can doăit. It is also compatible with any other TeX/LaTeX command, so you canăuse them as usual. This give Simpson's extension Poor Man's Chinese aăbiggest advantage than other system---that means, "You can do it onăChinese if you can do it on English!ăă"ăăYou can get the Chinese TeX/LaTeX fonts and marcos from ftp.math.psu.eduăă[128.118.24.22] under pub/simpson/chinese/pmc by the usual ftp(1C).ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1025) Where can I find the Chinese software?ăăa) Here are some useful anonymous ftp sites for Chinese relatedăsoftware---ăi) In USA:ăahkcus.org [192.55.187.25]ă [Directories indicated in parentheses]ă Articles in BIG5 from HKU (big5/),ă IFCSS Newsletters in GB (gb/ifcss-nl/),ă CND Chinese Magazine in GB (gb/cnd-cm/, no articles in thisă directory yet),ă CND archives(English) (cnd-g/, cnd-us/, cnd-ca/, cnd-ep/)ă HKU Chinese News utilities (src/), GB<->BIG5 conversionă utilities for unix and vms (src/, src/vms/),ă BYX1.1 Chinese Editor (src/)ăblackbox.hacc.washington.edu [128.95.200.1]ă pub/poorman/ă Poorman's TeX (Chinese and Japanese supported)ăcrl.nmsu.edu [128.123.1.14]ă pub/chinese/ă pub/chinese/fonts/ă pub/misc/ă Chinese X11 fonts, ChTeX, this file, kterm 4.1.2,ă dvi2ps that works with ChTeXă Poor Man's TeX (GB and Big5 support)ăcs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]ă pub/ygz/ă cxterm, celvis, cemacs, cless, cclib16* and hku-ch16 fonts. ăftp.math.psu.edu [128.118.24.22]ă pub/simpson/chinese/ă Poor Man's Chinese for BIG-5 traditional charactersă latest version of Cemacsă beijing24.bdf and taipei24.bdfă miscellaneous information about cxterm, etc.ăftphost.cac.washington.edu [128.95.112.1]ă pub/ă chinese.tar.Z - assorted programs [some programs duplicatedă from june.cs.washington.edu]ăhanauma.stanford.edu [36.51.0.16]ă pub/zhongwen/ă beijing24.bdf, Pinyin pronunciation tablesăă Pinyin->GB code tableămsdos.archive.umich.edu [141.211.165.34]ă msdos/foreign_lang/chinese/ă Duke Chinese Typist (dct*.arc)ăneon.stanford.edu [36.28.0.92]ă anonymous ftp to that site has been disabled. check otheră sites for ChTeX stuffă like crl.nmsu.edu.ăăii) In Sweden:ăkth.se [130.237.72.201]ă Mirrors of some of the above sites and other stuff.ălunix.met.kth.se [130.237.16.204]ă Mirrors almost all the chinese stoff. ă Updating HXWZ with gb format.ăăb) In MIT X11R5 contrib directory---ă CXTERM 11.5.1 is part of X11R5 contrib software:ă X11R5/contrib/clients/cxterm/cxterm X11R5 cxtermă fontsă X11R5/contrib/clients/cxterm/utils/celvis celvis source codeăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1026) Are there any other Chinese oriented on-line service? ăă The Alliance of Hong Kong Chinese in the US (AHKCUS) maintains ăa mailing list for its members and people who are insterested in theăpro-democracy movement in China. To subscribe please contact ă"request@ahkcus.org" [192.55.187.25].ăă Hong Kong Net (HKNet) can be reached by sending mail toă"cst@hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu" or "so@cs.wisc.edu". Please mail allăposting to HKnet to "hknet@cs.wisc.edu".ăă South East Asia Online is a free mailing list with interests ăin Southeastern Asia. It covers areas from Burma/Myanmar to HK, Malaysia,ăSingapore, Indonesia and Australia. To subscribe, mail to ă"listserv@msu.bitnet" or "listserv@msu.edu" with a one line message ă"SUB SEASIA-L ". The service is made possible with ăthe support of the Center for Asian Studies at Michigan State.ăă China News Digest is a regular posting of lastest China news inăan on-line magazine format. To subscribe or get info, mail to: ă"cnd-info@library.uta.edu" or if you want to contribute, you canăsend your mail to: "cnd-editor@sdsc.edu".ăă China Study Forum can be reached at "csf-adm@postgres.berkeley.edu"ăă China Study Forum - Books review can be reached at ă"csf-books@postgres.berkeley.edu".ăă HXWZ is a weekly electronic magazine in the Chinese languageăpublished by China News Digest (CND). To subscribe to CND Chinese Magazine: ăSend mail to "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" with a one line messageăă"sub CCMAN-L ". To quit from CND Chinese Magazine:ăSend mail to "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" with a one line message "unsub CCMAN-L".ăFor more informationă please contact "LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET" and please ăinclude a one line messageă "GET CMHELP INDEX". The BITNET node name ăUGA.BITNET is equivalent to internet "uga.uga.edu".ăă--------------------------------------------------------------------------------ă1027) What is MULE?ăăMule is a modified version of GNU Emacs 18.58, it isădistributed as a complete tar file or as a patch to 18.58.ăMule can support a larger set of characters sets, such asăJapanese, Chinese, Korean, and Europeans.ăăMule can handle all these languages in the *same* buffer,ămeaning that you can mix text from different languages.ă(Neat if you are translating from one language to another.)ăăMule supports the following inputting methods:ăENGLISH: Just type in. :-)ăJAPANESE: You have plenty of choises.ă EGG, EGG-SJ3, CANNA (these are bundled with Mule),ă SKK, boiled-egg (these are in 'contrib' directory).ăCHINESE, KOREAN, EUROPEAN:ă Please use 'quail' system bundled with Mule.ăăNew input methods should not be that hard to write. If youărun Mule under a specilized terminal emulator (such asăexterm or cxterm) which supports an input method you can useăthat.ăăAs for Chinese handling, please look into hz2gb.el inăcontrib/lisp.tar.Z. This allows quite convenient way toăread and post articles of newsgroup alt.chinese.text for aăGNUS user.ăăAs for fonts of European characters, Mr. Takahashiăcontributed 14dots and 24dots fonts for Latin1,2,3,4,5,ăGreek and Cyrillic. Those fonts are in fonts/ETL.tar.Z.ăăMule is available by anonymous ftp from:ăă etlport.etl.go.jp [192.31.197.99]:/pub/muleă sh.wide.ad.jp [133.4.11.11]:/JAPAN/muleăăIf you are accessing from out of Japan, please use theălatter site, which is faster. Either ftp the complete tarăfile, *or* if you have an unmodified GNU Emacs 18.58 you canăftp just the patch file diff-18.58-0.9.5 and apply that.ăăYou can join the MULE mailing list by sending a mail toăKen'ichi HANDA at "handa@etl.go.jp".ăă-- ăJohn Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA. (john@jho.com) ă-- ăJohn Ho from Dallas, Texas, USA. (john@jho.com) ă