Date: 09-16-90 (17:08)              Number: 5003 of 5662 (Echo)
  To: JOHN FRIEL                    Refer#: NONE
From: TANDY WAY                       Read: NO
Subj: 4.2 PHONE BOOK                Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: QMODEM (33)                Read Type: GENERAL (+)

John, I can't make the switch to 4.2 Unless you can help with why
my ICEX scripts won't fly with 4.2 But fly easyily with 4.1B
in an attempt to help you remote control diagnose the problem 
here is step by step.

Icex206 has a script generator for all the popular programs like
yours. It has worked fantastic witn 4.0 And 41.A and 41b
I use the alt j to redefine shift f1 and shift f2 to call up
wither the 2400 script or the 1200 script.  Going in to alt j 
and choosing 2 in the fields for shift f1 I put @script 
icex-24.Qms in the fields for shift f2 I put @script icex-12.Qms 
saving my work and dropping back to terminal mode I press shift 
f2 and here is what comes up on the screen.

Script error type setcom keyword (s) expected file
d:\qmodem\script\icex-24.Qms line setcomcjlm press any key to
edit.

Now here is the actual script that icex generates.

; This script was produced with ICEXGEN for use with ICEX206
; ICEX Copyright 1987,1988,1989.   Written by Wayne Wolf
; Consult ICEX206.DOC for notes on usage
;
SETCOMM CJLM
IF $OFFLINE Repeat
GOTO Invoke
Repeat:
  SEND "ATDT223-5859^M"
  TIMEOUT 30 Noconn
  WAITFOR "CONNECT"
  GOTO Skip
Noconn:
  DISPLAY "Could not connect to Local number, trying again..."
  HANGUP
  GOTO Repeat
Skip:
SEND "^~^~^~^~^~^~"
  SEND "@"
  SEND "^~^~^~^~"
  SEND "D"
  SEND "^~^~^~^~"
  SEND "^M"
Ping:
  TIMEOUT 3 Tryagn
  WAITFOR "="
  GOTO Skip2
Tryagn:
  SEND "D"
  SEND "^~^~^~^~"
  SEND "^M"
  GOTO Ping
Skip2:
  SEND "D1^M"
Invoke:
  DOS "ICEX206 -D -A -E"

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Date: 09-18-90 (18:37)              Number: 5006 of 5662 (Echo)
  To: TANDY WAY                     Refer#: 5003
From: KARL BRENDEL                    Read: NO
Subj: 4.2 PHONE BOOK                Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: QMODEM (33)                Read Type: GENERAL (+)

TW>john I can't make the switch to 4.2 unless you can help with
why
TW>my icex scripts won't fly with 4.2 but fly easyily with 4.1b
TW>in an attempt to help you remote control diagnose the problem
TW>here is step by step.

TW>script error type setcom keyword (s) expected file
TW>d:\qmodem\script\icex-24.qms line setcomcjlm press any key to
TW>edit.

Unless you're able and willing to edit the generated script file
every time, Tandy, this one is going to take an ICEX upgrade to
fix.
Changes in script languages often "break" script generators and
prepackaged scripts. Bang on Wayne Wolf on The Right Place and
get
him to change his SETCOM command to the current format. (As is
probably documented, SETCOM now takes keywords rather than the
letters it used to take. That's what the error msg is trying to
tell
you.)

The price of progress. The benefit, tho, is that SETCOM arguments
won't have to change in the future when new baud rates or other
items
are added to the AltP menu.


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Date: 09-18-90 (05:33)              Number: 5043 of 5662 (Echo)
  To: TOM MUI                       Refer#: NONE
From: JOHN FRIEL                      Read: NO
Subj: 4.2 & 5 DOCUMENTATION         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: QMODEM (33)                Read Type: GENERAL (+)

-> PCPursuit which requires you go to the ICEX program externally
using the DOS shell. I notice the words 602135 bytes to disk
and the fact that it takes 20-25 seconds to get from Qmodem to
DOS and when ICEX does all the PCPursuit work, another 20-25
seconds to exit ICEX to get back to QMODEM.

The Shell is writing DOS memory to disk.  You can try turning
Optimum Shell OFF to speed it up (at the expense of free memory
for the Shell).

John
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Date: 09-19-90 (19:19)              Number: 5181 of 5662 (Echo)
  To: TOM MUI                       Refer#: NONE
From: STEPHEN WEIHMAN                 Read: NO
Subj: 4.2 & 5 DOCUMENTATION         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: QMODEM (33)                Read Type: GENERAL (+)

        ßÜßÜßÜßÜßÜ September 19, 1990 ßÜßÜßÜ 12:19 AM ßÜßÜßÜßÜßÜ

TMÝOne problem though. I do use PCPursuit to search the BBS'
before I 
TMÝswitch over to AT&T with a HST for downloading. I use ICEX to
access
TMÝPCPursuit which requires you go to the ICEX program externally
using
TMÝthe DOS shell. I notice the words 602135 bytes to disk and the
fact
TMÝthat it takes 20-25 seconds to get from Qmodem to DOS and when
ICEX
TMÝdoes all the PCPursuit work, another 20-25 seconds to exit
ICEX to get
TMÝback to QMODEM. I'm sure the new manual might have something
to say
TMÝabout it - but you are backlogged manual-wise. Any
suggestions?

You need to check the optimum shell in setup.  It's under
ALT-n/o/r.  If optimum shell is on and disk shell is on, 
then Qmodem will swap as much of itself to disk BEFORE 
running ICEX, and must reload AFTER. 
Change these to no (you shouldn't need the extra memory 
with ICEX, and let it rip.  You shouldn't have much of a 
delay.

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