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From    : JULIE PRESSON
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Date      : 01/04/97 11:31pm
Subject : The Giants Of Genesis             
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 * Forwarded from 'BAMA'
 * Originally by Bill Kochman, 6:670/7
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated Tue 31 Dec 1996  2:58A

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THE GENESIS GIANTS (NEPHILIM), THE SONS
OF GOD, THE ANAKIMS, THE SONS OF ANAK,
THE ANNUNAKI AND GOLIATH OF GATH

The Bones Of Dinosaurs, Or The Bones of Men?

(c) 1996 By Bill Kochman

The mere mention of the word 'giant' conjures up different
images in the minds of us all. Some of us immediately think
of little David and the giant Goliath. Others perhaps think
of Gulliver's Travels, or maybe one of their favorite sci-fi
movies such as the Fifty-Foot Woman. The tale of Apollo in
one of the first generation Star Trek TV shows is another
good candidate. Then of course, we also have Jack And The
Beanstalk, Paul Bunyan and the ho-ho-ho Jolly Green Giant!
The figures from Roman and Greek mythology also fit well.
These are but a few of the many images which have been
passed down to us from ancient times up to the current day.

In this paper however, we shall deal with one specific facet
of this intriguing topic, i.e., the giants of the Bible. Let
me state from the beginning that what follows has been a very
exciting revelation for me as I have never undertaken such
an in-depth study of this issue of giants. The flow of events
from Genesis on up to the links I have discovered with current
day events is truely fascinating for me...and I hope it will
be for you as well.

GIANTS BEFORE THE GENESIS FLOOD:

That there were giants before the Great Deluge is unquestion-
able. We have but to read the following Genesis account to see
that this is true:

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And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of
the earth, and daughters were born unto them,  (Genesis 6:1).

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were
fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
(Genesis 6:2).

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man,
for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and
twenty years. (Genesis 6:3).

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after
that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men,
and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men
which were of old, men of renown.  (Genesis 6:4).

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The common interpretation of these verses accepted by most
orthodox Christians, at least those who are even aware of them,
is that the 'sons of God' mentioned here is referring to the
righteous descendants of Seth (the 3rd son of Adam & Eve), who
beheld the beauty of the daughters of the descendants of Cain
and made love to them, thus producing giants in the land. If
that is what they want to believe, that is their right, but I
prefer another interpretation which seems to be more in line
with scriptures.

As some reading this will already know, the other interpreta-
tion of these verses is what has commonly become known as the
Nephilim, or the Annunaki, in certain circles. According to
this understanding, the 'sons of God' (with a capital 'G'),
is referring to actual spiritual entities in the heavenly
realm. These spiritual beings were so entranced by the beauty
of earthly women that they left their heavenly abode and made
love to them. This is what resulted in the giants being born.

To the surprise of some, and contrary to what certain Christians
might believe, Satan & his followers were at one time (and may
still possibly be) allowed to enter the courts of Heaven. Con-
sider the following verse which refers to the angelic beings as
'sons of God':

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present them-
selves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present
himself before the LORD.  (Job 2:1).

This same verse is repeated several times throughout this book.
Interesting indeed! Not only are spiritual beings referred to as
'sons of God,' but Satan is counted among them as well! There is
some dispute regarding exactly when the book of Job was written.
Some say that it is actually the oldest book in the King James
Bible written even before the Pentateuch. If this is true, and I
will not say one way or the other, perhaps it is possible that
Job's testing by Satan occurred before Satan/Lucifer had com-
pletely rebelled against God. Perhaps at that time he was just
being a pest. Isaiah 14 deals more directly with this topic of
Lucifer's rebellion and fall. The main point we have established
with this verse is that spiritual beings were referred to as
'sons of God' and Satan was counted among them without a doubt.
And a final point to enforce this idea: Jesus was referred to
as both the Son of God, and as the son of man due to the fact
that He was the result of a union between a human woman and a
spiritual being, just like these giants. The primary difference
is that His birth was the direct will of God & He came to ful-
fill a positive objective.

The above understanding adds a lot of weight to the arguement
that the 'sons of God' mentioned in Genesis six are in fact
spiritual beings and not earthly humans as accepted by orthodox
Christianity. Considering that Satan is already at work in the
first chapter of the book, I believe it is a safe bet to say
that Lucifer may have spearheaded this renegade band of spirits
when they came down to the Earth to rape the human women...al-
though, considering that even Satan can appear as an angel of
light, we can only wonder if it was really rape, or if these
women were mesmerized and seduced into believing these fiends
were actually handsome...such as in 'you handsome devil, you!'

While some may question whether or not these spiritual creatures
were actually evil, the surrounding verses which explain the
consequences of their actions, seem to indicate that they were.
God was apparently angered by the rebellious action of these
demons, so much so that Genesis 6:3 tells us that God either
immediately cut man's lifespan to 120 years, or else He decided
at that point that He would send the flood 120 later to com-
pletely wipe out all of the descendants of these evil hybrids.
Again, the interpretation of this 120 years mentioned in verse
three is another topic of controversy within Christian circles.
I will mention that it was approximately 120 years after the
words were uttered in verse three that the Flood did in fact
come. It will also be noted that after Noah and his immediate
descendants, the average lifespan of man did in fact begin to
decline rapidly from the hundreds of years he had lived before.
There are different theories regarding what caused this: curse
of God, genetic disorder due to sin in man's heart, removal of
the band of water circling the Earth after the Flood, etc. We
can discuss this at another time.

But to conclude this section, consider this question:

Could it be that the 'Nephilim' in Genesis six were trying
for a pre-emptive strike to destroy God's ultimate plan for
humanity, that of salvation? It seems highly likely. Perhaps
their early invasion of Earth was their feeble attempt to set
up their own kingdom before the arrival of the Christ child.
If they had been in control, perhaps they could have prevented
His birth, or at least made sure that their pawn Herod had
done the job right, thus foiling God's plan and jeopardizing
humanity.

GIANTS AFTER THE GENESIS FLOOD:

That there were giants after the Flood is undeniable...but the
question is, 'Were they direct descendants of the Nephilim, or
were they just the result of some human genetic disorder which
occurred in Noah's descendants some time after the Flood?

I first heard of the giants many years ago from a preacher who
also said that Goliath was a descendant of these giants. How-
ever, the problem is that according to Genesis, except for the
eight members of Noah's family _ALL_ life was destroyed. To
believe that these giants somehow survived contradicts the
Genesis account, and basically says that God failed in His plan
to erradicate His 1st creation which had been corrupted & turned
evil.  Granted, if we accept the interpretation of Genesis six
that the Nephilim were giants resulting from a spiritual/human
sexual union, this may have given them some physical advantage,
but still, the flood waters rose way above the highest mountains,
and it was a global flood...& Genesis does say that _ALL_ life
was destroyed. Now, in spite of the mixed seed, these giants
were still human, so I don't think they could walk on water like
Jesus did. Besides, that would still contradict the word 'ALL'.
The only other possibility is to accept that they were airlifted
by the demons who had spawned them to begin with...but again,
that would mean that God's plan failed...which I don't believe.

This is indeed a perplexing issue for me...particularly in light of
the fact that there is clear evidence of giants in the Bible way
after the Flood. Consider these verses from Numbers 13 where
Moses sends Joshua, Caleb & company to spy out the promised land
of Canaan:

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And they ascended by the south, and came unto Hebron; where Ahiman,
Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were. (Now Hebron was
built seven years before Zoan in Egypt.)  (Numbers 13:22).

Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the
cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the chil-
dren of Anak there.  (Numbers 13:28).

And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had
searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through
which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the
inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are
men of a great stature.  (Numbers 13:32).

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the
giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we
were in their sight.  (Numbers 13:33).

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Here we have first mention of the sons of Anak, also know as the
Annunaki or the Anakims.  Here are additional verses which tell of
the same thing and the same people:

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A people great and tall, the children of the Anakims, whom thou
knowest, and of whom thou hast heard say, Who can stand before the
children of Anak!  (Deuteronomy 9:2).

And unto Caleb the son of Jephunneh he gave a part among the chil-
dren of Judah, according to the commandment of the LORD to Joshua,
even the city of Arba the father of Anak, which city is Hebron.
(Joshua 15:13).

And Caleb drove thence the three sons of Anak, Sheshai, and Ahiman,
and Talmai, the children of Anak.  (Joshua 15:14).

And they gave them the city of Arba the father of Anak, which city
is Hebron, in the hill country of Judah, with the suburbs thereof
round about it.  (Joshua 21:11).

And they gave Hebron unto Caleb, as Moses said: and he expelled
thence the three sons of Anak.  (Judges 1:20).

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Aside from the fact that the above verses are important to the
discussion of Biblical giants, there is a much deeper more impor-
tant significance to these events. It was extremely important to
the Lord that His people via Moses, Joshua & Caleb, gain control
of Hebron, the headquarters of the Anakims, the Annunaki, the
Nephilim, whatever you prefer to call them. We know from Biblical
history that this later became King David's headquarters who was
an ancestor of Jesus himself. Even back then, God was preparing
Israel for the arrival of their King & the Saviour of the world.
In our current day, Hebron has once again grabbed the headlines &
world attention in a big way as the Jews and Palestines negotiate
over this very town. Since the beginning of time, Israel, and
Jerusalem in particular, has played a very important role in
world history, and in God's ultimate plan. The spiritual war
revealed in the Garden of Eden, later heightened by the arrival
of the Nephilim, has  been going on ever since...and the Bible
tells us that it will end in the very area of the world where it
began!

Notice also that in Joshua 15:13 & 21:11 we are informed that
the father of Anak was Arba. It was a usual occurrence to name a
city after a personage, just as it is today. Upon conquering Arba,
they renamed it Hebron (or Hevron). I don't have any further
information on Arba. If anyone has any solid facts on this city,
I'd appreciate hearing from you...I am of course referring to
anything you may have which explains how the sons of Anak, the
Anakims came to possess it to begin with.

Contrary to what one might think, in spite of this conquest of
what later became known as Hebron, this is not the last we hear
of these evil giants. Even after this victory by Joshua, Caleb
and the rest, the Anakims still had a stronghold...and this is
also very significant as it is also a place which is currently
a part of the whole Israeli-Palestinian problem:

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There was none of the Anakims left in the land of the children
of Israel: only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod, there remained.
(Joshua 11:22).

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Briefly, what happened after this is that the children of
Israel fell in and out of favor with the Lord due to their dis-
obedience and hardness of heart. Each time, the Lord would punish
them by allowing their enemies to conquer them. In the following
key verses, the Philistines have conquered the Hebrews and stolen
the Ark of the Covenant which contained all of the holy items
such as Aaron's rod, the books of the law, etc. Little did they
realize their grave mistake until it was too late. Each town the
Ark was taken to, which included Gath, the stronghold of the
Anakims (or descendants of the sons of Anak), the Lord would
smite the inhabitants until finally, nobody wanted it anymore.
So the Philistines consulted their 'high priests' and it was
decided that they would return the Ark to the Israelites & even
include a few gifts just to make sure they were back on good
terms with the Hebrew God:

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They sent therefore and gathered all the lords of the Philistines
unto them, and said, What shall we do with the ark of the God of
Israel? And they answered, Let the ark of the God of Israel be
carried about unto Gath. And they carried the ark of the God of
Israel about thither.  (1 Samuel 5:8).

And these are the golden emerods which the Philistines returned
for a trespass offering unto the LORD; for Ashdod one, for Gaza
one, for Askelon one, for Gath one, for Ekron one; (1 Samuel 6:17).

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After this, there was about a twenty year span during which time
the Israelites again began to worship other gods. So as before,
the Lord sent the Philistines to fight against them again.
Fearing the worst, the Israelites sought the prophet Samuel to
intervene before the Lord for them, which he did, & there was
wrought a great victory for the Hebrews that day. The Bible
does not go into great detail regarding this battle, but it
appears that there was some kind of miraculous intervention.
This resulted in the following:

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And the cities which the Philistines had taken from Israel were
restored to Israel, from Ekron even unto Gath; and the coasts
thereof did Israel deliver out of the hands of the Philistines.
And there was peace between Israel and the Amorites.
(1 Samuel 7:14).

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Notice that Gath of the Anakims was included in the spoil.  After
this, the Bible tells us that there is a period of peace but that
the Israelites once again begin to complain against the Lord and
have rejected Him as their true and rightful spiritual King. Some
of the Israelites then demand that a human king be set over them.
The Bible then records that Samuel eventually annoints Saul as
the first king of Israel due to the hardness of their hearts.  It
isn't long before Saul likewise displeases the Lord, and the Lord
rejects him as being king. We then get into the story of the power
struggle between the house of Saul & the house of David during
which time the Philistines once again attack the Israelites...and
this time they have a giant of a hero named Goliath...a descendant
of the Anakims. This guy was somewhere between nine to over eleven
feet tall depending on which lengths you accept for the cubit and
the span. We all know the story. With the annointing of God, David
the young shepherd boy slays the Anakim giant and the Philistine
army flees before the forces of Israel all the way back to Gath.


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And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines,
named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.
(1 Samuel 17:4).

And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion,
the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the
Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David
heard them.  (1 Samuel 17:23).

And the men of Israel and of Judah arose, and shouted, and pursued
the Philistines, until thou come to the valley, and to the gates
of Ekron. And the wounded of the Philistines fell down by the way
to Shaaraim, even unto Gath, and unto Ekron.  (1 Samuel 17:52).

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In a strange twist of fate, David flees from Saul who refuses to
give up his kingship, and ends up seeking refuge with his very
enemies, Achish, the king of Gath who is a Philistine:

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And David arose, and fled that day for fear of Saul, and went to
Achish the king of Gath.  (1 Samuel 21:10).

And David laid up these words in his heart, and was sore afraid of
Achish the king of Gath.  (1 Samuel 21:12).

And David arose, and he passed over with the six hundred men that
were with him unto Achish, the son of Maoch, king of Gath.
(1 Samuel 27:2).

And David dwelt with Achish at Gath, he and his men, every man with
his household, even David with his two wives, Ahinoam the Jezreel-
itess, and Abigail the Carmelitess, Nabal's wife.  (1 Samuel 27:3).

And it was told Saul that David was fled to Gath: and he sought no
more again for him.  (1 Samuel 27:4).

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We are then told that David dwells several years with Achish, the
King of Gath. Eventually, the Philistines war again against Israel
& Saul his three sons are killed in battle. While Achish partici-
pated in this battle against Saul & the Israelites, it is interest-
ing to note that the Philistine lords did not trust David, so he
was sent back to the land of the Philistines & had no hand in the
death of Saul.  Actually, Saul is seriously wounded during the war
so falls upon his own sword as his armourbearer refuses to kill
him. His armourbearer then also proceeds to take his own life.
We later find out that an Amalekite comes upon Saul who has fallen
upon his sword & is in great agony, but has not yet died, so this
man, at Saul's request, finishes the job for him. Eventually the
Philistines arrive and cut off the head of Saul and carry it through
the Philistine cities to brag of their deeds.  As to the man who
did a mercy killing on Saul. David had him slain because, even
though Saul had turned against David, David still considered him
the Lord's annointed. As far as Achish is concerned, there is no
further mention of him. We can only assume that peace remained
between him and David because of the kindnesses they had shown to
each other...even though later David (and others) took the city
of Gath.

The account of David and Goliath of Gath can also be found in the
book of Second Samuel as well as in the book of First Chronicles.
These books provide a little more detail about the destruction of
Goliath the giant of Gath & his four sons: Ishbibenob, Saph (or
Sippai), Lahmi, and a fourth un named son who were also giants.
In these books, Goliath is referred to as Goliath the Gittite:

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And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of
whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he
being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David.
(2 Samuel 21:16).

But Abishai the son of Zeruiah succoured him, and smote the Phili-
stine, and killed him. Then the men of David sware unto him, saying,
Thou shalt go no more out with us to battle, that thou quench not
the light of Israel. (2 Samuel 21:17).

And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with
the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph,
which was of the sons of the giant.  (2 Samuel 21:18).

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where
Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother
of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a
weaver's beam.  (2 Samuel 21:19).

And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great
stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six
toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
(2 Samuel 21:20).

And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother
of David slew him.  (2 Samuel 21:21).

These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of
David, and by the hand of his servants.  (2 Samuel 21:22).

And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with
the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai,
that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.
(1 Chronicles 20:4).

And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son
of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear
staff was like a weaver's beam. (1 Chronicles 20:5).

And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great
stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each
hand, and six on each foot: and he also was the son of the giant.
(1 Chronicles 20:6).

But when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea David's
brother slew him.  (1 Chronicles 20:7).

These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand
of David, and by the hand of his servants.  (1 Chronicles 20:8).

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With the death of Goliath & eventually his immediate family, this
did not end the wars between the Israelites & the Philistines.
However, it must have weakened them considerably as we find
several examples of the destruction of the Philistine cities of
the giants. Speaking of David, we find:

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Now after this it came to pass, that David smote the Philistines,
and subdued them, and took Gath and her towns out of the hand of
the Philistines.  (1 Chronicles 18:1).

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And then there is Uzziah:

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And he went forth and warred against the Philistines, and brake
down the wall of Gath, and the wall of Jabneh, and the wall of
Ashdod, and built cities about Ashdod, and among the Philistines.
(2 Chronicles 26:6).

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We also have the Syrian King Hazael:

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Then Hazael king of Syria went up, and fought against Gath, and
took it: and Hazael set his face to go up to Jerusalem.
(2 Kings 12:17).

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So it appears that beginning with the death of Goliath the giant
of Gath, a son of the Anak, we have the beginning of the end of
what is left of the Anakim. There are a few other light mentions
of Gath in the Bible, but no further mention of the sons of Anak,
or of any giants. Whether any of the other Philistine inhabitants
of Gath, Ashdod, Jabneh, Arba or Gaza were giants, we really don't
know. If they were, there is no specific mention of them in the
Bible.

As mentioned earlier in this paper, no direct Biblical connection
can be found between the giants of Genesis, commonly known as the
Nephilim, and these later giants called the sons of the Anak.  The
Flood would have seemingly made it impossible. The fact that mere
humans with the annointing of God were able to destroy this second
group of giants also seems to indicate that these were not the same
as the Nephilim. I prefer to think of them, (the Anak), as a
genetic aberration. Consider that at least one of Goliath's sons
had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot.  Perhaps
Goliath did as well, but the Bible doesn't state this.

There is, however, one very interesting point I would like to bring
up here. In the Old Testament, there are only four books where the
devil is mentioned by the name of Satan. They are in Job, Psalms,
Zechariah, & I Chronicles. In other places he is referred to as
Lucifer or Serpent.  What I find interesting is that this last
mention of 'Satan' is found exactly one verse after the four sons
of Goliath are slain. This verse says:

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And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number
Israel.  (1 Chronicles 21:1).

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The Devil was very upset that the seed of the Anak had been
destroyed by David and his servants. Remember eariler how I men-
tioned that the war has been going on since Genesis to stop the
Christ child from being born? Perhaps there is more here with
the Anak than meets the eye...or perhaps they were just mortal
men, albeit BIG ones, heavily influenced by Satan to fulfill
his devious plan.

At any rate, having lost some of his best pawns, Lucifer then
persuaded David to make a census of the children of Israel.  This
greatly displeased the Lord, and because of David's sin, 70,000
people were slain of the Israelites. But that isn't all. This same
chapter tells us that the Lord sent an angel to destroy Jerusalem
because of David's sin. We read that David lifts up his eyes and
actually sees this angel:

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And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the LORD stand
between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand
stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders of Israel,
who were clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.
(1 Chronicles 21:16).

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David regrets his mistake and the Lord repents of His desire to
destroy the city. After David purchases some land from Ornan (who
also sees the angel with his four sons), and makes a burnt offering
to the Lord, read what happens next:

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And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt
offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he
answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.
(1 Chronicles 21:26).

And the LORD commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again
into the sheath thereof.  (1 Chronicles 21:27).

At that time when David saw that the LORD had answered him in the
threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite, then he sacrificed there.
(1 Chronicles 21:28).

For the tabernacle of the LORD, which Moses made in the wilderness,
and the altar of the burnt offering, were at that season in the high
place at Gibeon.  (1 Chronicles 21:29).

But David could not go before it to enquire of God: for he was afraid
because of the sword of the angel of the LORD.  (1 Chronicles 21:30).

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Right after the defeat of the biblical giants, the sons of Anak,
who some refer to as the Nephilim or Annunaki, Lucifer causes
David to blow it, and then we have this wonderful celestial visita-
tion which is witnessed by at least six or more people. Now if
this angel was seen suspended between the Earth and the Sky with
his sword _over_ Jerusalem, and David clearly saw him as did the
others, either this guy was very big, as was his sword, or else
this is referring to something else. Need I drop any hints here?
Once we have the altar built, as in other instances in the Bible,
the Lord confirms His presence by 'shooting' fire down upon the
altar. Notice in the final verse that it says that David is afraid
because of the angel's sword. It seems to me that there is a
connection here between this large sword over Jerusalem, and the
fire coming down to consume the sacrifice.

Either we have one powerful lightening bolt here, or else this
is another confirmation of the Lord's advanced technology. I leave
the reader to decide for yourself. As I type this, I think too of
the awesome destruction of Sodom & Gommorah by two of the Lord's
angels.

Whatever the case may be, this is one powerful event which follows
the destruction of the Anakim, the giants of the Bible. As stated
previously, I find it quite interesting that two areas of Israel
which were once under domination of the Philistine giants, the
Anakim, (i.e., Gaza and Hebron), are today once again the subjects
of war, violence & international diplomacy. Could this be symbolic
of the greater spiritual war which is going on? If these Nephilim,
& Anakim or Annunaki are indeed related to each other in some way,
could it be that they are once again preparing for war to try to
stop the rightful heir of David from coming back to Earth to claim
His own? It is certainly a sobering thought to consider.

With that, we bring this study of the giants of the Bible to a close.
This has been quite an adventure for me in the wonderful Word of
God. I trust that it has been as enlightening and as fruitful for
you the reader as well. Any comments, pro or con, or any additional
concrete supporting evidence would be greatly appreciated.

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