FORUM: Private E-Mail HOST: LEADING DATE: Feb-17-95 6:20pm MSG: 352 PVT FROM: Digestifier TO: Dbn SUBJECT: Phish Digest #624 Phish Digest #624, Volume #4 Fri, 17 Feb 95 09:12:14 EST Contents: Re: AOL.Phish.netters-Discussion session has been set! (Andrew T Croke) All Traders/Collector's-Please Read!! (Dbase1) Re: Time for another 'Plate tally'! (Noah Bickart) A serious statement from Drew (Re: Gay PhishHeads!?!) (Andrew T Croke) Re: DMB on Mtv (JB JG20) Re: Internet Alternative (Head) Shop (Milk Man 0) Is using Phish music samples in product - legal? (Gordo) Re: Rolling Stone Article (david.marriner@secretgarden.com) Re: HELP ME! Please read (david.marriner@secretgarden.com) December, 1993, New Haven Coliseum (Tony) Re: Great Lyrics (Mau boy774) Re: DMB on Mtv (Dr. Nick Riviera) Re: New Thread- Phish's skeletons (Mau boy774) Re: (none) (Mau boy774) 2-16-91 & 2-17-93 (Jessie Steimer) Re: FALL SHOWS ANYONE (Oosh) all this bickering (Opel) Re: Warning regarding trading in general (Eugene Accado) rating (Andrew Robertson) The Tragically Hip Rock the Gardens ;-) (S. Maltais) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: atcst7+@pitt.edu (Andrew T Croke) Subject: Re: AOL.Phish.netters-Discussion session has been set! Date: 17 Feb 1995 01:37:02 GMT In article <3i0t9q$ond@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, GSDunn wrote: >Due to overwhelming response, I have decided to pick a date and time for >all of the AOL.Phish.netters to meet and discuss, What else but PHISH! I Ya got that? This is an AOLer discussion. Okay. Let's continue: >will get a private room so we won't have any distractions. Please do not >come if you are A newbie,( i.e.- if you want to know the name of the song >that has the words "picture of nectar" in it) please do not come. Wait a sec. AOLers getting elitist.... Hehehe. I apologize for finding this really funny. then, later: > Again, we are looking for people who are Knowledgable. If you just >started listening to phish, or have FAQ's, use the archive phile or the >newsgroup. Hehehe. I love elitists that are blatant... Drew (the penis) OPC: unsubscribe. ------------------------------ From: dbase1@aol.com (Dbase1) Subject: All Traders/Collector's-Please Read!! Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:30:30 -0500 Reply-To: dbase1@aol.com (Dbase1) Hello! If you are a music collector of ANY type of music, or just a wanna-be, this is for you! Read on, please! A huge database of thousands of music collector's like yourself is being created: you will eventually have access to this! If you email me the following info, you will recieve *free* lists of rarities, etc. from other music lovers who are interested in trading recordings, etc. You'll never have to hunt and peck again for those rare recordings. Specializing in all types of music, including rock, alternative, grunge, progressive, classic, jazz, blues, oldies, classical, etc.! Please email me, Dbase1@aol.com, and include the following information only: *Your Name and Full Street or PO address *Phone # IF desired (this will be published!) *Estimate approximate # of hours of rare music you have (demos, b-sides, live, etc.) *Approximate # of CD's you have in your entire collection (just a rough estimate!). *You may list up to 5 of your favorite bands *Then please list what TYPE of music you collect, primarily (blues, folk, etc.) That's all there is to it! Thanks for the help, and happy collecting! ------------------------------ From: nbbickar@midway.uchicago.edu (Noah Bickart) Subject: Re: Time for another 'Plate tally'! Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 01:16:51 GMT I saw both ICCULUS and HAROUA plates in the lot at the prov show 12/29, and at least one PHISH plate on the road to MSG. ********************************************************************* *Gamehendge...I don't know much about Gamehenge... except that I'm a* *traveling minstrel from there... -Mike Gordon * ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: atcst7+@pitt.edu (Andrew T Croke) Subject: A serious statement from Drew (Re: Gay PhishHeads!?!) Date: 17 Feb 1995 01:55:41 GMT In article <3i0m3d$g66$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Steph <71021,652@compuserve.com. <71021.652@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Hey, I have nothing against gays or anything, but come on >people!!! You don't have to post messages over the net about it. > Do you see me posting 'Strait PhishHeads Unite' messages over >the freakin' net' Nooooo! Keep you're lives to your self, we >don't care. I don't beleive that the only two replys to the original post so far have been "keep yourselves in the closet, you don't belong on phish.net" posts. What the fuck? Kids, this net is for everyone who likes phish. Yes, gays and lesbians like phish. They have a right, and are totally welcome to announce their presence here. If you happen to be looking for people who like phish and also share something else in common with you, you are welcome to post here. I could post "any creative writing majors who like Phish?" or "any blondes who like Phish?" or even "any gay men who like phish?" (no trivializing of sexuality intended). So, Steph, get over your hostility. And as far as "we don't care", I do. I care. And I welcome posts by bisexuals, gays, and lesbians on this net. I also welcome supportive replies to this post. Let's not let our silence make some folks feel unwelcome. Drew (the penis) ------------------------------ From: jbjg20@aol.com (JB JG20) Subject: Re: DMB on Mtv Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:15:35 -0500 Reply-To: jbjg20@aol.com (JB JG20) They have always been sell-out. they use to play for us all the time but know they want atleast $15000 to play. THEY ARE SELL-OUTS!!!!!!!!!! JB JG20@aol.com ------------------------------ From: milkman0@aol.com (Milk Man 0) Subject: Re: Internet Alternative (Head) Shop Date: 16 Feb 1995 21:45:50 -0500 Reply-To: milkman0@aol.com (Milk Man 0) Hey My name's Matt And I would pay anything for a cool Phish hat (mail order) mabye you could help me! Thanks- Milk Man 0 ------------------------------ From: dsg119@psu.edu (Gordo) Subject: Is using Phish music samples in product - legal? Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 03:34:24 GMT I am writing a video game, and I would like to use Phish music from live tapes that I have for the background music. It wouldn't be complete songs, just short samples. Does anyone know if this is legal or not? Would I have to get permission or something? The game will be shareware and distributed for free, but none the less there will be a full registered version that would actually be sold. -Gordo ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Article From: david.marriner@secretgarden.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:58:00 EST >On the other hand, Mademoiselle (of all people) gave five stars to Hoist. >They said that it was fun, frisky, and technically impressive (whatever...) >They also said that the best song was Demand, citing it as "excellent drivi >music." Don't ask why I was reading Mademoiselle in the first place.... Zz> Demand? Driving music??? The guy wrecked his car at the end! I have to concur that it Demand is Greeeaaaattt! (in the immortal words of Tony Tiger) driving music. Coming back from a stay withe a friend out at Buffalo we were playing the CD. On comes Demand and my best friend and I wer listening to it. Completely forgot that the song was being listened to by a person while in a car. The end crash took both of us by suprise and we jus looked at each other withe a simultaneous "Wow!". I started out driving arou 70 mph., ended up doing around 90 and not even realizing it. There is a lot energy within that song. -dm .... Hi-Ho Hi-Ho, its off to the institution I go! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: HELP ME! Please read From: david.marriner@secretgarden.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:42:00 EST CM> Here in the bustling metropolis of Clinton, SC. We have two old guys CM> who walk around with canes and occaisionally (sp?) ride a off white CM> golf cart with a blue light bar. It's supped up pretty hard to outrun. Probably one of those Harley golf carts, don't you know...:-) -dm .... TagLine Serial No.10397 - (C) 1991, All rights reserved ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 22:44:19 EST From: Tony Subject: December, 1993, New Haven Coliseum I was wondering if anyone out there has dec. '93 New Haven Coliseum show, I heard that it was insane! If you do, could you spin it for me? thanks-------Tony ------------------------------ From: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) Subject: Re: Great Lyrics Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:51:07 -0500 Reply-To: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) The best thing about Phish lyrics is the way they work together with the music. Rift and Its ice both send chills down my spine. ------------------------------ From: selhorn@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Dr. Nick Riviera) Subject: Re: DMB on Mtv Date: 17 Feb 1995 04:02:43 GMT JB JG20 (jbjg20@aol.com) wrote: : They have always been sell-out. they use to play for us all the time but : know they want atleast $15000 to play. THEY ARE SELL-OUTS!!!!!!!!!! : JB JG20@aol.com Why is it that just because they have become rather popular and now they are asking for more money they are sell-outs. If they started to change their music just to sell more albums, then perhaps you might have a point, but I don't think they have. Success doesn't always mean sell-out. Mike ------------------------------ From: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) Subject: Re: New Thread- Phish's skeletons Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:55:34 -0500 Reply-To: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) but remember: its not exactly a greatest hits album, its hand picked live jams! who cares if some people are into dwd, sample, julius? theyll buy the album and think it sucks, and the rest of us will really enjoy the sick jamming! ------------------------------ From: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) Subject: Re: (none) Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:59:08 -0500 Reply-To: mauboy774@aol.com (Mau boy774) you forgot weekapaug! ------------------------------ From: Jessie Steimer Subject: 2-16-91 & 2-17-93 Reply-To: steimerj@luigistoaster.pds.charlotte.nc.us Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 13:53:28 GMT i'm looking to trade for these dates as a present for a good buddy's birthday. anyone who has them please let me know. i have many hours. peace, love, and light- *8) jessie steimerj@luigistoaster.pds.charlotte.nc.us ------------------------------ From: oosh@aol.com (Oosh) Subject: Re: FALL SHOWS ANYONE Date: 16 Feb 1995 23:03:03 -0500 Reply-To: oosh@aol.com (Oosh) You are a very nice person inside but your grotesque facial features just annoy the living hell out of me. ------------------------------ From: jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us (Opel) Subject: all this bickering Date: 17 Feb 1995 00:10:27 GMT Come on guys, everything in life is gonna have something in it that we don't like. Nothing is perfect. We've got a great band here to listen & groove to. Can't we all just get over this bickering about why we don't like this or that song, or why we hate newbies because they're just new, or why people wearing baseball caps ruin shows??? Come on. look how silly that is. Phish is a great band, enjoy them for that. Stop letting stupid unimportant little things get in the way of your enjoying the band. I don't care if the next show I go to is full of grumpy old men from the senior citizens home, or 50,000 kindergarten children, I'm gonna enjoy the jam & have a great time. Only you can make it good for yourself. ENJOY IT! share the groove....with everyone! ------------------------------ From: zaphod@news.dorsai.org (Eugene Accado) Subject: Re: Warning regarding trading in general Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 03:54:47 GMT Here are a few other things to add to the list: 4) EXCHANGE PHONE NUMBERS! If the person you are trading with is a sincere trader but some problem either personal or with their Internet account comes up you can still get in touch with them. Of course if they lied about their phone number this doesn't help. If you are real paranoid about making trades on the net you can give them a call before making the trade to see if they gave you the right number. Good thing the net hasn't gotten to that point. 5) Don't make big trades when trading with someone for the first time. Make a 2 tape trade before getting carried away with 10 tape trade. The smaller the trade the less you are burned if the trade falls through. Eugene ------------------------------ From: anjrober@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Andrew Robertson) Subject: rating Date: 17 Feb 1995 04:22:34 GMT I was wondering if anyone has any ideas for a reliable rating system. I have been trying to use a rating system for a while but I can't seem to get it efficient yet. I have around 400+ hrs and getting a system to accurately and efficiently rate tapes is difficult. Also has anyone else noticed how many people rank nearly all of their tapes as A+/A/A-. I do not understand. I have many tapes that have come right off the DAT and I would not consider A+. I consider A+ to be CD quality without skips, jumps, cuts, etc. Clear, crisp, good highs and lows, etc. There is no way that some others share this rating. Maybe this is because some are listening to their tapes on small, low quality systems. Also I noticed that the tapes I ranked as high quality when I first started collecting are not the same tapes I would rank as HQ today. Does anyone have any idea how to digitally measure the quality of a tape. I have considered recording samples of the tape (digitally of course) and then trying to measure them. I have a NeXT Cube and access to Digital Ears (uses DSP) so I should be able to record out of my deck directly to the HD at 44.1. Also I have software to measure basically every possible item about the sound (FFT, Spectrum, etc. etc. etc.). I guess I could measure the amount of background hiss, level of highs, level of lows, what else? Then assign each of these a weighted value and thus give the tape a rank. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. -- --Andrew Robertson-- =============================================================================== IU Dept. of Environmental Health and Safety 855-5252 IU School of Journalism NeXT mail accepted ------------------------------ Crossposted-To: alt.music.tragically-hip,alt.music.canada,alt.music.pearl-jam,alt.music.blues-tr aveler,rec.music.gdead,alt.rock-n-roll.stones From: smaltais@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (S. Maltais) Subject: The Tragically Hip Rock the Gardens ;-) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 02:07:48 GMT Hello :-) This was a sold out show (18,000) at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The name of the band is the Tragically Hip. They are huge in Canada. Their latest release, Day For Night, over four times platinum in Canada, was released in the U.S. on Valentines Day. They are on an 19 city tour which will gross over 4 Million dollars. All shows were sold out within 75 minutes. But the band, much like alot of touring based bands, care about their fans, and released 500 seats before the show to thwart the couging scalpers outside the venue. Furthermore, agian like most touring based bands, fans trade live tapes of the bands úÿ (continued next message) -- END OF MESSAGE --