This course is designed after a real course that we used to play on a regular basis until the resort on which is was located started doing a good business. Now getting out before 1:00 pm is a miracle. Carroll Valley is located in a valley (big surprise) that usually get plenty of rainfall. So the course is usually is great shape. A couple of the holes have exagerated hills on them because visually (at least with this game) they look like that but in actuality are not quite so steep. It the kind of course that can eat you and a dozen balls for breakfast and still be plenty hungry for more. Plenty of water and trees make it a hackers hell. Well, if you have any suggestions I would appreciate it very much if you would pass them along. Just contact me via the games conference in the Relay Net. Rick Weber