This is the transcript of a conference about Photo-CD held in the CD- ROM Forum on CompuServe (GO CDROM). The guests, from Kodak, were Paul McAfee, Paul Wisotzke, Scott Brownstein and Joel White. (Moderated conference begins after '**********'.) 8:50 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70007,6237] (2-1,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Hello Albert and Steve [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Paul will you be speaking (typing) tonight [70007,6237] (2-1,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Albert I will be speaking from the Kodak Information Center, and will be joined by Joel White, and Paul Schiller who is using the KIC ID. Paul McAfee from Kodak will also be speaking from his location. [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) good evening folks..... hope I'm not late! [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Hi Ron [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) hi Albert! [72050,1515] (2-8,Domenick Creaco) hello my name is domenick [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Hi Rich [71700,3404] (2-16,Rich Bowers/OPA (Sysop) Hi there [73607,2531] (2-2,STEPHEN B SIEGEL) HELLO [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Rich I've waited a long time for this conference. [73607,2531] (2-2,STEPHEN B SIEGEL) steve [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Albert, Rich and I are sitting together at one machine his ID is logged on as a backup. [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) Steve> taking no chances huh? :) [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) No chances is right Ron. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) You got it, Ron. [71520,1665] (2-2,Stephen Ziegler) Is anyone familiar with multi- session drives? [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) will this be a formal conference or free form? [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stephen and Ron, this will be a formal moderated conference. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) We'll try to get started right around 9pm EST. [71520,1665] (2-2,Stephen Ziegler) what are the rules for a moderated conference [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stephen, I'll explain the rules of a moderated conf once we get started. 8:52:30 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [72147,3455] (2-7,DAVID HALE) Okay, how does this work? [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) David, we'll go over the rules as soon as we get started. [72147,3455] (2-7,DAVID HALE) What time will that be? [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) David, right at 9p EST. [70007,6241] (2-6,Paul McAfee) Steve ... I'm here. Scott hasn't shown up yet. I see that Joel White and Paul Wisotzke are in the conference already. So KIC is represented [76314,1630] (2-11,Don Tait) Hello everyone, I am Don Tait from San Francisco...ga [76314,1630] (2-11,Don Tait) Hi Ron, I am looking forward to getting some exposure to CD-ROM ...ga [72147,3455] (2-7,DAVID HALE) Don... I am at the Presidio, close by? [71036,213] (2-24,Bob Dolson) Hi everyone! This is Bob, a future Atari FALCON owner! [75300,1642] (2-23,Ron Kovacs - ZNet) Hi Bob! [76314,1630] (2-11,Don Tait) Twin Peaks area David [70007,6241] (2-6,P. McAfee [Kodak]) Scott is on my other Phone. I'll know what is up with him in a few minutes. [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Hi Bob, I hope to join you soon. [75300,1642] (2-23,Ron Kovacs - ZNet) Hello Albert! Bob Brodie sez hi! [71036,213] (2-24,Bob Dolson) Hi Ron! I THOUGHT you might be here!! You too (helpful) Albert! [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) Hi Ron Kovaks ... looks like quite a few Atarians are here! [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) looks like quite a few future falcon owners here. :) [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Hi, all. We'll be getting started in a minute or two when I'll explain the ground rules. [70007,6241] (2-6,P. McAfee [Kodak]) A request. Please no private conversations, except for Steve and the Kodak folks online tonight. [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price [GRAPHICS) Checking in. ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Paul Wisotzke and Joel White, of the Kodak Information Center, are online. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Scott Brownstein just called. He is on his way to my house. He should be here in 10 minutes. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) We can start when you want. ********** Beginning of moderated conference ********** 9:02:29 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Hi, all... Let's get started. I'm Steve Luper and I'm the Sysop of the CD-ROM Forum. Rich Bowers is logged on but is sitting here with me so he isn't ignoring you. We are very happy to welcome Paul McAfee and his cohorts with Kodak. This is a moderated conference so here are the basic ground rules. First: Please try not to talk out of turn, it will make the reading much easier for all of us. Second: The best time (and only, I hope) to ask a question is when you have been recognized by me. You can get into queue by sending me a single ?. You can do that in an ASCII terminal program by typing /SEN 9 ?. If you are using CIM, use the TALK feature under Conference. When it is your turn to ask, I'll tell you to go ahead. You can begin typing your question at that point. Please indicate that there is more to come by ending a line with... as I have been doing. When you are finished, indicate so by saying Then Paul et al will be able to respond. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Now that we have that out of the way, I'll let you send your requests to me and get on with the show. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Paul McAfee, how about giving us a brief introduction of yourself. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) I am public relations manager for Photo CD. Scott Brownstein will be at my side in a moment. GA [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Re: Kodak Access Software: Exporting in TIFF format fails if the image has been cropped. Is this a characteristic of TIFF? GA 9:09:36 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) I'll let Paul Wisotzke take this. GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Its not a known problem. I have heard of it happening with some CD ROM drives that are not fully Photo CD compatible. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Tom, Let's let this rest for now. Paul or Scott can get to it in a few moments. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Steve ... who is next? GA [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) OK, this only happens with TIFF on cropped images. Never with BMP or uncropped TIFF (Windows version of Access) will wait. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Tom, let's wait on that until Scott can get to a terminal. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Thanks. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stephen Ziegler is next. GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) We run specific compatability tests and post a list of results. It's available by calling our info center. GA [76507,3400] (2-56,Stephen Ziegler) Need to know about transfer rates in mulisession CD. ga [70310,254] (2-60,Bob Frankston) Re Drives: I've called the info center about drives. They did read out a string of models and subnumbers. I'd like a printed list of currently shipping models and, since they are not really in the channel yet, where I can actually buy such a drive. Can you please keep a table posted on this forum. (If it is there, I'll download it -- haven't checked in a few weeks). [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Specifications for CD ROM Drives are available from the manufacturers. Scott just arrived. Current drives can support either 150 or 300 Kbytes per second. GA [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) We test only for Photo CD compatability. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Tom Lichtenberger. GA [75300,2312] (2-58,Tom Lichtenberger) Hi Paul, glad to meet you. I'd like to know what CD Roms are recognized/blessed by Kodak as being Multi-session compatible? I understand the list is very very short right now, can you list the CD ROM's that are? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Steve ... who is next? GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Tom, can you ask your question again? GA [75300,2312] (2-58,Tom Lichtenberger) sure... I'd like to know, what cd-roms have been blessed by Kodak as being officially tested as Multi- session compatible? I understand the list is very very short, can you list them? GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) The current drive list is available by mail and will be posted in library 7 of this forum. ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Tom, Joel Wisotzke will post the list in CD- ROM Forum You also can call KIC at 800-242-2424, ext. 53. The list changes virtually daily (grows). GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Todd Copilevitz. GA [76260,465] (2-37,Todd Copilevitz) Thanks. I want to use the photo cd with photoshop for desktop publishing. What kind of resolution can I get from the CD, and will the plug-in module for photoshop handle pulling files off the CD? The other question is regarding color balancing. How much will I have to do for a color printer such as the CLC 500? Ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Todd - awaiting your question. GA [76260,465] (2-37,Todd Copilevitz) Thanks. I want to use the photo cd with photoshop for desktop publishing. What kind of resolution can I get from the CD, and will the plug-in module for photoshop handle pulling files off the CD? Also what kind of color balance will i need to do? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) We will be releasing a Photo Shop plug-in in a few weeks. The plug-in will access images directly into PhotoShop. ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From 128 x 192 to 2048 x 3072, all 24 bit color. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thank you all for your patience... [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Eric Michelson. GA [76350,553] (2-27,Eric S. Michelson) What size images are scanned currently into CD's, what are my options ... [76176,1122] (2-25,John/Charlene Melso) ???(grin) [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Steve, I don't see anything from Eric. GA [75300,1642] (2-23,Ron Kovacs - ZNet) To exit enter / before your command. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Paul, Eric is job 27. Do you see anybody with that job number? [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Steve, I don't see Job 27 either. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Eric's question was... [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Joel, jump in, but answer only the questions from the people identified by Steve (Moderator). GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) What size images are scanned currently into CD's, what are my options? ga [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Eric, Are you asking what film formats can be scanned to CD today. If soit's 35mm only at this time. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Each image is available at all five resolutions, from 128 x 192 to 2048 x 3072, all 24 bit color . GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bob Cox. GA [70062,3271] (2-8,Bob Cox) Will Kodak release to Desk Top Developers the format info, of the file PLAYLIST.PCD on the protofolio CD? We want to develop a play program for PC's in windows. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... The format is available from Philips. You need to ask Philips for the Photo CD specification. That information is in the Photo CD spec. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Dan CCC. GA [76701,13] (2-39,Dan CCC) thanks steve... we need to know what "average" file sizes are so that we can archive stock images and then combine or manipulate them in Photoshop. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) The 2048 x 3027 is 18 MB in 24 bit color. [76701,13] (2-39,Dan CCC) What is the smallest? [76701,13] (2-39,Dan CCC) GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) The smallest is 128 x 192 x 24 bit = about 64 K GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stephen Ziegler. GA [76701,13] (2-39,Dan CCC) Thanks. GA [76507,3400] (2-56,Stephen Ziegler) Go to next person thanks GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bruce Rubadeux is next. Please do not send private messages to the Kodak folks as they have their hands full trying to answer one at a time and remember to wait your turn. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bruce. gA [70524,2427] (2-21,Bruce Rubadeux) What is the EK position, as of today, for a SDK and LIC. availability for writing PCD. Also address Philips CDD521 vs. EK equpt. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... one moment please ... We currently do not have a license or SDK for writing PCD. The PHilips CDD521 and Kodak PCD 200 writers are made on the same assembly line. However, there are differences in warranty and service and software (drivers) are totally different. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) R. Lavoie. GA [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) Hi. Regular CD audio uses RedBook specs, and CD-R audio uses OrangeBook specs. What does the Photo CD use ? Secondly are there any hardware manufacts that are going to commit themselves to making a photo cd / cd /laserdisc player ? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... Not true. Premastered CD audio follows Redbook specs. CD R Audio also follows Redbook specs once recorded. Photo CD uses redbook audio. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Sony is making a CD I portable player that plays Photo CD. Others are evaluating the possiblity of Photo CD & CD Laser. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Scott Torrol. GA [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) thanks GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Scott? GA [76460,2716] (2-48,Scott Torroll) Thanks Steve... My question is on the availability of the access software Where and when GA [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Access should be available thru many softwar e dealers As well as directly from Kodak. Call KIC for resellers in your area. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Access is available now from Kodak for $39.95, and from stores. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Richard More. GA [76460,2716] (2-48,Scott Torroll) Thanks ... Ga [71221,3636] (2-7,Richard More) Will I notice a difference between ASA 100 film and ASA 1000 film? Second can I use both slides and negatives? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... Yes, you will see a difference. Yes you can use both slides and negs, color and b&w. GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) You can use ay 35mm film. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Ron Kovacs. GA [75300,1642] (2-23,Ron Kovacs - ZNet) What is Kodak's impression of the Atari Falcon 030? [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... one moment ...Scott hasn't seen it, but if it is Photo CD capable it must be good. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Steve Ranck. GA [75300,3436] (2-26,Steve Ranck) Thanks... I work for a CD-ROM driver developer and we're having trouble getting one of our SCSI drivers working with a photo CD compatible CD-ROM drive. What do you suggest we do? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Paul W. or Joel W. ... chip in here. 9:47:54 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) KIC can help you work out compatibility issues. Call 800-242-2424 extension 53. GA [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) We were waiting for the question from Steve Ranck. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Ok, we'll move on to Bob Ledbetter. GA [71043,3442] (2-33,Bob Ledbetter) Hi, I uknderstand Kodak has been working with Atari and the new Falcon030. Can you brief us as to what, specifically is being done in the advertising area. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) I am not aware of any co- advertising with Atari at this time. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Scott Frederick. GA [71175,1220] (2-30,Scott Frederick) What resolution (dpi), not size of file are images scanned at before they are burned onto the cd?. Secondly what is the rate of the cd read/write? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Scott .. 2048 dots per inch. Also ... CD Recording rate is 300 K bytes per second. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Paul and Scott have agreed to stay past 10p EST. So, if you'll hang in with us, we'll try to get your question. Horatio Kemeny. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Horatio? GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bob Frankston. GA [70310,254] (2-60,Bob Frankston) [The problem with moderated forums is that I've got plenty of time to compose my comments but they are in one paragraph because I don't know if the software supports a soft Enter vs Transmit] The development kit seems to be priced for professional development with full support. I'm interested in experimenting with Photo!CD (though such experiements do have a way of finding themselves in products eventaully). Is there a less support- intensive version that just has the .H file and a description of the entry points? I just want to be able to, for example, read the thumbnails on to hard disk. Ideally, the .H file posted on CIS with a little description (in the .H file itself) would be wonderful. It would also help Kodak by making Photo!CD much much more accessible. .. Other issue is phone support versus online documents. If the list of drives changes frequently, all the more reason for posting it as opposed to my placing a daily call to the 800#. The issue is still actually getting the drives. Maybe the Texel mentioned is available. What else is buyable. -- in the back of both of these is the issue of personal computing vs Photo!Cd since it doesn't seem that Kodak has connected the two? If Kodak is the main agent behind Photo!CD, it should work to make the information available. If the DLL's come with the viewer, then doc on how to read images using the library should be more than sufficient without forcing the nice people who want to use your product to go tothe Netherlands for bit layouts. Perhaps a compromise would be having the standard access software come with some DDE support and support for Visual Basic and other products as a way of distinguishing it from the "professional" developer edition. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) The least expensive kit is $695, but you can read Photo CD images with Photo CD Access for $39.95, or for free with Adobe's Photo CD access plugin. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Art Hansen. GA [70310,254] (2-60,Bob Frankston) I want to be able to read the Photo CD under program control. I already have correl draw but that is labor- intensive. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) What does labor intensive mean? GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) You can use Photo Kodak CD Access or PhotoEdge. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thanks, Bob. Art? GA [70310,254] (2-60,Bob Frankston) Labor-intensive means "not automated". For example, I'd like to collect all the thumbnails from a PhotocCD, reduce them to a smaller palette and then save them on hard disk. How would I do this wout programming? [75216,3137] (2-66,Rod B - Aldus) Aldus Fetch will handle that for you. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Thanks, Rod. GA Art. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thanks Rod B and Bob. Let's move on. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Ok, no Art. Charlene. GA [76176,1122] (2-14,Charlene Melson) Hi all! I am a photog and associate editor at Micro Publishing News. We are currently publishing the very first book on the subject of Photo CD. It's called Photo CD: Quality Photographs at your Fingertips. Sound familiar Paul M? I believe you graciously supplied us with many photos. I also have photos in the book. I have experienced Photo CD as a photog and a DTPer and I love it! [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Thanks, Charlene. GA [76176,1122] (2-14,Charlene Melson) Question: What software programs will allow direct imports of PCD files? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Photo CD Access, PhotoEdge, Photoshop, Pictu re Publisher, ImageIn, QuickTime 1.5 and anything that takes PICT, and many that I have probably forgotten under pressure. GA [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Any software that has been branded with the KODAK Photo CD logo. [75216,3137] (2-66,Rod B - Aldus) Aldus PhotoStyler, Paul. [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Photo Fatory, Kodak Renaissance ... [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Oops ... also PhotoStyler. GA [76176,1122] (2-14,Charlene Melson) Thanks and if anyone wants a copy of the book, due out in January, call (310) 371-5787 [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) John Melson. GA [76176,1122] (2-57,John Melson) HI WHERE CAN WE GET PHOTO CD PLAYERS AND COST. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) John, Kodak has this at the KIC. Call 800-242-2424, ext. 36, for player and photofinisher information. GA [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Call 800-945-7200 for the latest on player dealer locations. GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Scott Brownstein is eating the unpopped kernels of our popcorn. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Will the PCD image be released so that we can read, modify, then re-write PCD? [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... That has not been decided at this time. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thanks, Jan. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bob Michie. GA [72447,2660] (2-64,Bob Michie) Thanks Steve. I'm still wondering what the users see when accessing Phot CD. Is the disc accessable at DOS level? IOW, if I do a DIR, do I see Dos Files? 10:09:02 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) YES THANKS [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott > (1) Is the disc accessable at DOS level? Yes if the drive and drivers read ISO 9660. [72447,2660] (2-64,Bob Michie) (2) Are the discs encoded IAW ISO 9660? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Yes you will see the files. ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Yes to both.. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stuart Sandow. GA [70062,3271] (2-8,Bob Cox) Joel: Thanks for the mention of Photo Factory, The Multimedia Store. [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Can the image be compressed with MPEG or other systems? [72447,2660] (2-64,Bob Michie) (3) Can Photo CD's be replicated en mass by someone like NIMBUS? [72137,2770] (2-15,Ayal Joshua) Phillips claim that their CD writer will burn PCD. Is that true now and [72447,2660] (2-64,Bob Michie) Thanks! Ga. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Please wait to be recognized. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stuart Sandow, you're up. ga [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Stuart? last chance. ga [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bob McKeever. ga 10:12:50 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Bob McKeever? ga [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) William Meers. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Susan Kirshbaum. GA [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) What is the best "formt" for distributing pcd to a wide range of monitors/sytems... ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... you can have a disc mastered & mass produced. GA [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) Talking about "online" distribution as in a multimedia presentation or a cbt application... ga [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Are you asking about on a network... PC's an d Mac's... [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) yes and stand alone... ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Susan, you can covert Photo CD images to any format of your choice. GA [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) There is no best image i.i.e. size of "window"?... ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Once coverted from Photo CD, you can treat it like any other rasterized image. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Jan Schwenk. ga [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Thanks, can the image be further compressed, mPEG etc? [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) thanks... ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Jan, you can compress it like any TIFF, PICT, JPEG, or other image. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Paul, you mean you can compress MPEG with a compression scheme? [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) It won't be MPEG unless you convert the image to MPEG. After that, it is up to you. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Whoops, sorry, I meant can it be compressed and still be .PCD? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Jan, No. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Scott Frederick. ga [71175,1220] (2-30,Scott Frederick) Thanks Steve. We have scanned slides on our Scitex smart scanner and compared them to images output from Kodak CD and the scitex scans looked real good (on an Iris proof) and the Kodak images looked very posterized on the iris proof, Any explanation? GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... the problem probably is the conversion of the Photo CD video RGB images to CMYK. Ideally, it is best to go straight from PhotoYCC (our color metric) directly to CMYK. GA [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Photo CD Access is optimized for video display, but the Kodak plug-in will handle KCMY better. [71175,1220] (2-30,Scott Frederick) thank you, because this really stupmed us. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Tom Price. GA [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) With Kodak Access for Windows, exporting a cropped image in TIFF format will fail. Doesn't happen with BMP or uncropped TIFF. Is this a limitation of TIFF or a bug in Access? ga. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Tom, we think this is a hardware or driver conflict or configuration problem. Please work with KIC to sort it out. GA [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Thanks, will do. It's with the Mitsumi 5S, which has been qualified by KIC. GA [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) The Mitsumi 5S is not on our compatable drive list. GA [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Joel, that's not what KIC told me on the phone or said in this very forum.ga [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Tom, contact me directly. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Susan Kirshbaum. Did you have another non-advertising question? ga [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) Is there a listing of compatible software like auhtoring tools? without converting?... ga [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Susan, could you rephrase your question?... [73720,3440] (2-37,Susan Kirshbaum) What packages directly support PCD or wher e can I get a list?... ga [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Jan Schwenk. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) What type film is optimum for producing PCD? Ektar 25 or others? 10:23:41 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) From Scott ... What type do you like to use? Your options are the same as for conventional photography. If you want fine grain, and have the light, shoot Ektar 25. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Reason for the question, white spots on recent development processes and Ektar 25 seems to turn out a bit darker than paper image [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Jan, Please work this out with KIC. They will need to analyze your problem in more detail than we can get into online. GA [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Paul - ok, thanks ga (congrats to all for this! [73710,1515] (2-3,Richard Prall) How many photo can fit on one CD? [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Ayal Joahua. GA [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Jan, You can contact me directly [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Sorry, Ayal Joshua. ga [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) ok Paul, will do thanks and congrats on a fantastic product!! [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Kathy Bradley. ga [73207,1132] (2-76,Kathy Bradley) Have you heard of Corel Corp's plans for supporting PCD? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) They are supporting PCD in theirMosaaic utility GA [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) General information ... The Philips CD recorder will not author Photo CD without authoring software from Kodak. Now to Kathy ... Thanks Joel. GA [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) David Strain. ga [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thanks for attending. What we'll do now is open the floor to all for the next fifteen minutes and the Kodak folks will answer the questions as quickly as they can. Any questions that you have left can be sent to any or all of us and them via CompuServe mail or here in the CD-ROM forum. [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Paul McAfee, the floor is to you and then open for public questions. ga [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) Anyone wanting an official Photo CD pocket protector should leave me EMail with their mailing address. Thanks all. [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Steve, this is cool! Now I know what they mean by "herding chickens" [71175,1220] (2-30,Scott Frederick) How is the data written to the CDs (what language or format)? GA [75156,2106] (2-23,HOWARD BRAINEN) S-9 DOES Kodak have MAC software for the Phillips unit yet? [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Photo.YCC which is Kodak's Photo CD file format [71754,16] (2-32,Jim P. Kirby) can I use my current CD that is connect via SCSI to my PS/2 to view Kodak CDs? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Not currently. Scheduled for Feb. 93 [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) When will your "Kodak Authoring Software" be available and how much? [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Jim Contact KIC for a compatibility list. [71242,1503] (2-39,William W. Powell) Any 3rd party xBase libraries for display of PCD images? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Jan, Mid 93, no price yet. [71224,1714] (2-20,Jay Wright) do do you plan more than 24 colors? [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Jeol, will send you some CIS email regarding compatibility of the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S. ga [70007,4640] (2-13,Atari Interface/Ron) Paul McAfee> how much of a success has photo cd been with the general public? 10:32:47 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Joel, will it be available to "developers"? [71036,213] (2-24,Bob Dolson) Jay Wright, that's 24 MILLION colors, not 24. [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) I understand that bringing slides for scanning to PCD results in high res storage. Can I have more pictures stored in lower res (eg TV)? [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) All images are stored as an Image Pac with all five resolutions. GA [71754,16] (2-32,Jim P. Kirby) Never saw the answer to the question of how many pics on one CD?? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Tom, the CRMC-LU005S is fully PCD copatable and branded with Photo CD logo. Is this the drive you refered to as the 5S ? [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Any plans announced to support ATARI, TANDY, or other formats? Access software to be available for them? [70062,3271] (2-8,Bob Cox) Jim: I have put 135 pictures on ond Photo CD. [70602,424] (2-22,Shane Harvey) Is there a list of processing sites available who do Photo CD? [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Jim Up to 100 images on a Photo CD Master disc. [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Joel, yes indeed! Should have used the full name, I guess..sorry for the confusion...Still wondering about TIFF format though. ga [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Call 1-800-242-2424 ext. 36 for Photo CD sites. ga [76227,314] (2-16,WILLIAM MEERS) How is Kodak targeting the sales of franchises for PCD processing? [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Paul W. - a note in the Photo forum, one guy said he got 17-! [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Jan No information on that at this time. [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Paul W. - that is 170, sorry [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Tom, contact me at 71333,727 [71242,1503] (2-39,William W. Powell) Anyone know if I can access Photo CD from Clipper 5.01? [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Paul W. - it was a guy from a photo lab in Ct. Best or something like that? [75300,620] (2-42,Tom Price[GRAPHICS]) Joel, and I'm totally enthused and committed to PhotoCD as a technology. It's going to be very big, in my opinion. I'm getting fantastic results with slides and color negatives. ga [71175,1220] (2-30,Scott Frederick) Thank all of you for answering my questions 10:37:26 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [75300,3257] (2-62,KIC PGS KODAK) Visitor, check their packaging for our Photo CD logo, if not try using our Photo CD Access or contact them for their future plans for support. ga [73207,1132] (2-76,Kathy Bradley) I.E. Vis a vis Corel [70602,424] (2-22,Shane Harvey) The docs on my Sony CD-ROM say it is Photo-CD compatable, but what additional outlay in software, etc. is needed for display on VGA? [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Thanks for answers - will this conference transcript be available somewhere? [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Jan It is possible to get more than 100 [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Jan, the transcript will be available in Lib 1 of this forum later this week. ga [70053,1702] (2-47,JAN SCHWENK) Thanks Steve, bibi [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Visitor, you will need sotware capable of reading the image format, i.e. Photo CD Acess or PhotoEdge [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) how about an up-to-date pcd list? Anyone? [70310,254] (2-60,Bob Frankston) I presume the forum is now open? Any response about the idea of keep updated info on CIS instead of by voice phone? After all, Kodak should appreciate t he value of an image over audio. I did look at the PhotoCD drive list uploaded today but was disappointed by the lack of multisession drives though, perhaps, the Apple drive will work on the PC. Is Kodak considering maintaining its own forum on CIS? [71242,1503] (2-39,William W. Powell) Is there a list of 'authorized developers' in one of the Libs? [71224,1714] (2-20,Jay Wright) what is the price range for a piw? [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) User 34 an up to date drive is posted in the hardware library -- we will reformat it and post it again. 10:42:14 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992 [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) Paul W. I downloaded it last nite (it says "as of 10/12" (Oct?) [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Jay, The PIW is around 100k. [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) user 34 look for the posting from today [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) Paul W. Thanks lots, I will! [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) 34 is Kathy. [71036,213] (2-24,Bob Dolson) Goodnight all !! (you too Albert from AE!) [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Kathy, the list went up today. [70007,3615] (2-4,Albert Dayes) See you later Bob see you in the Atari forums! [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) OK Joel, thanks, I'm looking for one compatible with PAS-16 card. [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) For a list of authorized developers contact KIC at 800-242-2424 x36 for other types of support use x53 [70602,424] (2-22,Shane Harvey) This is a list of compatable drives you're referring to? [71242,1503] (2-39,William W. Powell) Anyone have knowledge of Photo CD\xBase developments? [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) OK thanks all... bye i'm off to the lib.. [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Visitor yes a new list of drives was posted today [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Kathy, Currently nothing that we have tested. [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) Joel, I see a lot of potential for lower res modes using the present players but with more pictures per disc. Was KODAK looking at the possibilies ? GA [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) Joel the NEC CDR73 works with PC-XT Controller, would'nt PAS work? [71333,727] (2-10,Joel White Kodak) Thanks everyone. Bye. [70062,3271] (2-8,Bob Cox) Contact The Multimedia Store at 800 597 FOTO for Photo CD Comp. drives that work with PAS-16 [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thanks Joel. We're happy that you were able to be here to help. [70007,6241] (2-6,KODAK - McAfee) R. We have a format out next year, Photo CD Catalog, that will hold up to 6,000 images. [71055,3667] (2-34,Kathy M) thanks all. [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) thanks [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Thank's for your interest in Photo CD. We at KIC are now leaving. [71224,1714] (2-20,Jay Wright) thanks.. [71754,16] (2-32,Jim P. Kirby) Thank you for all the answers [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Paul W. Thanks for your help!!! [70602,424] (2-22,Shane Harvey) 'preciate the info [76701,232] (2-9,Steve (Moderator)) Thank you all for attending and thaks much to Kodak, Paul McAfee, Paul Wisotzke, Joel White, Scott Brownstein, KIC and all others who helped out. Watch the news flash announcement in this forum for info on the availability of the transcript and announcements of our future conferences. GA [72571,3571] (2-36,R.Lavoie) Thank you Steve, you've been a great traffic cop. Bye >> [70007,6237] (2-17,Paul Wisotzke Kodak) Steve Thank's for yours. 10:50:09 PM EST Tuesday, December 15, 1992