Hi Jack, I had originally intended just to send you email, but I decided, what the heck, your reader's might be interested in this, so I guess you can consider it a letter to the editor. Obligatory nice (but true) stuff first. I really like your magazine. It is one of the two magazines that I buy EVERY month (the other being Analog Science Fiction). You do a MUCH better job than that "other" mag whose title seems to indicate it caters to "callers", but actually features the most blatant commercial appeals to Sysops, while being pretty boring to the rest of us. Guess it helps to love your work. The one very mild criticism I have of Boardwatch is that you seem ideologically dedicated to the idea that the online environment is there to make money off of. Admittedly you temper this with the realization that a financially sound BBS requires much more than a desire to make money (quite true!), but still, I get the vague feeling that you think the sysop with only one line and no ambition to expand is living somewhere in the dark ages of the previous decade. I guess my concern is that if the online environment becomes commercial, all the free stuff will be driven out of the market place. Oh well, I guess we'll see how it goes. What I'm actually writing to you about was the article on Denver FreeNet, which coincidentally I had just discovered online the night before reading about it in Boardwatch. In the article you mention how networked Colorado is, but I'm not sure you realize just how true that is. Did you know that Cleveland FreeNet is accessible from CARL? Well, not many people do, since the access is indirect and you have to know where to look. Under the "Other Systems" menu option on CARL is a link to MELVYL at U of California. Once you are on MELVYL, just hit Enter to get into the Database Selection Menu and then type CFN as your choice. It will telnet to Cleveland FreeNet. (This choice is actually found on the fourth screen of database options, oddly tucked away under "Library Catalogs Outside California". I guess it takes a librarian. Note that this is not of as much practical value as it would have been even a couple of months ago. As CFN has become more popular it has become VERY crowded. 250 users on at once is not uncommon, and really slows the system down. Often the system is so crowded it just refuses connections. I've found the wee morning hours are usually best to get through. (But note they go down for backups 4:00 A.M. Fridays). It's a very worthwhile system if you can get through. There is a good selection of Usenet groups, and 1 Meg Internet mailboxes. And of course all services are free. Best wishes, and thanks for an excellent magazine. It's one of the few sources of info about the on-line environment available off-line that is actually interesting and useful. Steve Crocker aq817@cleveland.freenet.edu Steve: Thanks so much for the note. I wish all of our Letters to the Editor had a little tidbit of how-to-connect-to-what in them. I knew you could connect to CARL from Cleveland FreeNet, but no, I was completely unaware CARL callers could reverse the connection to Cleveland. Since CARL is a free local telephone call here at (303)758-1551 in a local dialing area of over 100 square miles, I would imagine your note will cause some traffic. With regards to the "for profit" bias, I hope not. I think we'll see the BBS industry mature in much the same fashion most industries have, and yes, it will become more commercial. We cover whatever we find of interest and fairly regularly cover some very small single line systems if they are doing something interesting. But for many of us, the days of innocence will be viewed with nostalgia, and I think this was common in automobiles, radio, and many other developing fields historically. I do have to point out that software was either $100,000 or totally free not so long ago. There was a strong PD community a decade ago and most all PC software was of this nature. Today, we have a very strong commercial software market and indeed the richest man in America is Dollar Bill Gates. But at the same time, there are still PD software titles and a very active shareware market operating in parallel with this commercial software industry. I think we will see a very similar parallel development in bulletin boards. Ten years from now the online industry will have its own Bill Gates, and there will still be interesting single line bulletin boards run out of bedrooms. Any relation to the Stephen D. Crocker of PEM with MIME fame in our article on Privacy Enhanced Mail - this issue? Jack Rickard