Date: 10-25-92 (21:40) Number: 3533 of 4255 To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JOHN DINARDO Read: (N/A) Subj: Part XIX, PACIFICA RADIO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: US_JFKCONSPIR (193) Read Type: GENERAL (+) From: jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (John DiNardo) Subject: Part XIX, PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kennedy Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1992 22:04:05 GMT I made the following transcript from a tape recording of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station WBAI-FM (99.5) 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (continuation) JIM MARRS: Okay. No problem. He was hit in the back. But the Warren Commission and everybody up to today has lied to us and said that he was hit in the neck. Why? Because he was hit in the back, and it came out his throat. That's an upward trajectory, and it could not possibly turn in mid-air and come down to strike Connally. So it destroys the "single bullet theory" which is the whole foundation of the "lone assassin theory". Now, the "smoking gun". The "smoking gun" is the minutes of the January 27th, 1964 meeting of the Warren Commission. And we have the Chief Counsel, J. Lee Rankin addressing the Warren Commission ([ex-CIA Director] Allen Dulles, [future President] Gerald Ford). And he says (quote): "It seems quite apparent now, since we have a picture of where the bullet entered in the back, that the bullet entered below the shoulder blade, to the right of the backbone, which is below the place where the picture shows the bullet came out the neckband of the shirt, in front. So that how it could turn and ......" And he trails off, because he realizes he has just talked his way right out of the "single bullet theory". So they all just decided to turn their eyes. They're not going to look at the facts, and they're going to lie to us and say that the bullet went [entered] through the neck. And THAT is the crux of this whole case. It was a lie from start to finish. It was a lie perpetrated at the highest levels of the Federal Government. And those people who knew better -- who knew where the bullet went, and then lied to us -- are technically and legally, under the law, guilty of being accessories-after-the-fact, which, under the law, means that they are just as guilty as whoever pulled the trigger[s]. And that's what elevates this crime from the murder of President Kennedy to a coup d'etat in the United States. [JD: a crime of "high treason" against the people of the United States] GARY NULL: Alright. Let's take a look at the other evidence. Then I want to come back to your assertion here, because if there was a coup d'etat, I want to go through the cast of characters and people who have been alleged, up to this point, to be suspects; such as: Organized Crime, pro and anti-Castro Cubans, the CIA and other intelligence agencies, the FBI, some of the oil cartel men, some of the right-wing reactionaries, some of the military hierarchy. I want to look at each one of these, because you could not have a coup d'etat without having the participation of at least four of those groups. It would not work. And anyone planning a military operation of this magnitude would have known that. JIM MARRS: That's true. GARY NULL: You do not plan a coup d'etat if you know that the military could come in and stop you. The FBI would stop you. The Justice Department would stop you. So, Organized Crime, by itself, could not possibly do it -- which is what's laughable about many of these assertions that Organized Crime could do this. First of all, it is my theory that these members of Organized Crime have never been very smart -- that almost everything that they have ever done we have a very detailed history of, because they've talked about every crime they've ever committed on audio tapes that are in the hands of the different courts. From John Gotti on down, every one of these people talk. They're braggarts. Secondly, they couldn't have covered-up because they've never been able to cover anything up. In time, every one of their secrets has come forward. And, from that time until now, if Organized Crime was involved, we would have heard about it on FBI wiretaps or other taps that have occurred. So they may have had some participation. But to assume that they were responsible BY THEMSELVES? It goes beyond any feasibility. This was a military-style operation. But the military would NOT have committed this had they known that the security agencies would have challenged them. JIM MARRS: Exactly! GARY NULL: So you can't have one group [committing a coup d'etat], knowing that there is a balance of power within our Government. Any one of those balances that is left uncontrolled would be the one that would uncover it or, in effect, take back the power. So you have to have, in effect, complicity by all the major groups. And I think it's laughable that Blakey, of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, would have assumed that the Mob did it by itself, as if they had the skill to do it. Their hits have been effective, but not skillful. And these [assassins] were EXTREMELY skilled. And their cover-up was meticulous. The Mob, by itself, could not have covered up, and have stolen information out of the National Archives, and done the things that have been done. So I want you to give us your view of that. But let's go back and look at other inconsistencies and obfuscations at Dealey Plaza. JIM MARRS: Okay. First, let me make a quick point. I agree with everything that you've said, except that I would like to point out to your audience that I don't believe -- and I don't think you believe, either -- that everbody within Government and everybody within the intelligence services knew what was going to happen and participated actively in the assassination of President Kennedy. It doesn't work that way. They are all highly compartmentalized. Very often, the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. And the way to control that is from the absolute top. So we've got two men who were in absolute, undeniable, total control of the investigation into the death of President Kennedy. And it just happens to be the two men who benefitted most from the assassination, and who hated Kennedy the most. And that was Lyndon Johnson, his successor, and J. Edgar Hoover, Johnson's buddy and neighbor, who was in control of the FBI. [JD: Many years ago, I read a report that the day before President Kennedy was assassinated, he was quoted as remarking: "That's Lyndon Johnson, and he's in a lot of trouble." Can anyone cite a published source of any quote like this?] (to be continued) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If you agree that this story deserves broad public attention, please assist in disseminating it by posting it to other bulletin boards, and by posting hardcopies in public places, both on and off campus. Date: 10-25-92 (21:40) Number: 3534 of 4255 To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: JOHN DINARDO Read: (N/A) Subj: Part XIX, PACIFICA RADIO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: US_JFKCONSPIR (193) Read Type: GENERAL (+) As evidence accrues concerning the corporate mass-media's thirty-year cover-up of the corporate CIA's coup d'etat against the People of the United States, the need for citizen reportage becomes ever more striking. John DiNardo The episodes of this series can be retrieved via anonymous ftp from the sites: ftp.css.itd.umich.edu and red.css.itd.umich.edu Log in with name "anonymous" or "ftp" and supply your email address as the password. The files are kept in the directory /poli/essays.d/conspiracy.d (Instructions for ftp retrieval are dependent upon what sort of system the user is on. On a UNIX machine, one would do, at the command prompt: ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu This may be different on IBMs and Vax systems.)