Date: 01-22-93 (06:47)              Number: 4195 of 4255
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From: JOHN DINARDO                    Read: (N/A)
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Subject: Part 30,  PACIFICA RADIO Investigates the Murder of President Kenenedy
From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 17:51:00 GMT

        I made the following transcript from a tape recording
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
JIM MARRS [author of CROSSFIRE]:
Now, here's another key point.  A few years ago, I was in Alpa 66
Headquarters in Miami. This is one of the oldest and most violent
of the anti-Castro organizations. And I was talking to some of
those people and they were reminiscing about those days. And
something came up about Johnny Roselli, the very TOP-ranking Mafia
guy, and he was. He was a very high-ranking man in the Organized
Crime field. He was kind of the Henry Kissinger of Organized Crime
in that he would travel between the crime families and help make
deals and help make peace between the crime families. This is a TOP-
ranking position. And these people in Alpha 66 said that they were
amazed, in recent years, to learn that Johnny Roselli was this
Mafia chieftain, because back at the time of "Operation Mongoose,"
they only knew him as "Colonel Roselli." And Colonel Roselli had
full military credentials, flew in military aircraft piloted by
military personnel, and was an integral part, and a leader of this
secret war to kill Castro and to change governments in Cuba.

So, here now .... and of course the fact that the CIA and the Mafia
were working together in these assassination plots has been well
established. It too is absolute historical fact. So what we have
here is ... we have a situation just prior to the assassination of
President Kennedy, where the Mafia, the CIA, the anti-Castro Cubans
and the MILITARY are all actively working together on a variety of
schemes which include assassination. And I think THAT may be the
key to this whole thing.

GARY NULL:
Okay. Let's take it a little deeper now. That's some of the basic
scenarios. I still want to go into some of the people in specifics.
When it comes to the Military, let's look at that time, at Kennedy
and Viet Nam, and the military-industrial complex at that time.

JIM MARRS:
Exactly.  Dwight D. Eisenhower, in his farewell address, warned us
against the acquisition of power, whether overtly or covertly, by
what he called the "military-industrial complex." And the military-
industrial complex is MUCH broader, much more powerful than anyone
I think, even myself, could imagine because, basically, the
military-industrial complex equates to the Status Quo. And never
underestimate the power of the Status Quo. I like to think of
myself as an educated, thoughtful, broad-minded intellectual-type
person. And yet, I'll be the first to admit that there are certain
things that I become very set in my ways about. I like my hamburger
built a certain way, and that's the way I get it. We all are like
that. We all settle into our comfortable lives and comfortable
routines that we are familiar and comfortable with.  Okay?
This is the status quo, and it's tough to get out of there.

In 1941, we went onto a full-scale war economy, and we are just now
making the first beginning steps to try to get off of that. And
it's very painful. It's causing a lot of problems. Down here in my
home state of Texas we're really being hurt by the fact that some
of these military bases are being closed, some of the big defense
industries are laying people off. It's a painful process, but it's
gone on all through history. Once you create a giant military force,
that force just doesn't want to go away. And it doesn't go away by
itself. It takes time. It takes effort. Sometimes it's very painful.
And I think that's what Eisenhower was talking about. And we've
been under this military-industrial complex ever since.

The intelligence agencies -- the CIA, the DIA, the NSA -- some of
these twenty-two intelligence agencies, that we have operating in
this country to this very day, are simply the security arm of this
military-industrial complex. And the military-industrial complex,
needless to say, is not going to look kindly on anyone who would
try to dismantle it. And yet, if we go back and look at the record,
we find that essentially, this is exactly what John F. Kennedy was
trying to do.

After the Bay of Pigs [Invasion] and after the Cuban Missile Crisis,
he signed off on National Security Action Memoranda 55, 56 and 57.
And basically, the bottom line of these memoranda was to bring
control over the CIA back under the Military. He said that the
Joint Chiefs-of-Staff would be held responsible for any military or
even quasi-military activities that took place in the World that
was initiated by the United States. So this was an attempt to bring
the CIA back under the control of the Military.

In National Security Action Memorandum 263, we see that he approved
the recommendations of the [Secretary of Defense Robert] McNamara
Report which stated that we could have all United States military
personnel out of Southeast Asia by the end of 1965, and, in fact,
he ordered the withdrawal of one thousand military advisors by the
end of 1963. These were his beginning steps to disengage from Viet
Nam. John Newman, an eighteen-year veteran of military intelligence,
has written a book titled JFK IN VIET NAM. And in there, based on
actual National Security Council minutes, actual orders that are on
file, he showed, beyond any question, that Kennedy was not just
THINKING about pulling us out of Viet Nam, but he had actually
ORDERED that event, and that we had begun to move in that direction.

Of course, after he was killed, his successor, Lyndon Johnson,
signed National Security Memorandum 273, which quietly and subtly
said that there would be no troop decrease from the time of the
Diem Government, which was November the first. That was a subtle
way of blocking Kennedy's pull-out order. And no meaningful drop in
U.S. presence took place in Viet Nam.

And then, of course, in `64, while the Warren Commission was
putting the finishing touches on their report that said Oswald ws
the lone nut assassin, we had the phony Gulf of Tonkin Incident,
and Johnson managed to push through a panicked Congress the Gulf of
Tonkin Resolution -- which abrogates the Constitution of the United
States, which says that only Congress shall have the power to
declare war -- and gave those war-making powers to Johnson himself.
And off we went into a ten-year war that was very much desired by
the U.S. Military and by their attendant groups, their security
agencies, the intelligence groups, and also by the defense
industries and the bankers who supported them. And it's wide! It's
pervasive! It reaches into every state in this Union.
                      (to be continued)
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      As the elaborately concocted smokescreen fades away from the
      faces of the gang of murderers who perpetrated this, THE
      highest crime of treason in the history of the United States,

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Date: 01-22-93 (06:47)              Number: 4196 of 4255
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      we stand flabbergasted and enraged to realize the enormity of
      the traitors' crimes. They have scattered the brains of the
      People's President onto the streets of an American city.
      They have, just as cold-bloodedly, murdered (what is it?)
      two hundred or so people, from CIA agent Oswald to Sam Holland
      to columnist Dorothy Kilgallen to Senator Robert F. Kennedy.

      They have perpetrated a ten-year holocaust comprising the
      slaughter of over fifty-eight thousand sons of America, the
      wounding and maiming (both physically and psychologically)
      of maybe a quarter of a million more of us who served in that
      beautiful country transformed into one great hellish inferno;
      the absolute genocide (and there's no more accurate word for
      it than "genocide") of two million valiant peasants, who
      staunchly sacrificed everything, including themselves, to free
      their country from the clutches of a brutal invader.

      There are Vietnamese babies born every day now with arms growing
      out of their chests. Those people are suffering the myriad horrors
      of nature's processes gone wild -- all because Dow Chemical
      Company wanted to save the few bucks needed to purge dioxin
      from the tons and tons of Agent Orange defoliant with which
      the genocidal profiteers drenched the Vietnamese countryside.
      So they soaked the American taxpayer for Agent Orange enriched
      with dioxin  -- about the most toxic chemical known to all life
      -- and they soaked American boys and Vietnamese people with tons
      of death from the skies; not instant death, like the 1,000-
      pound bombs that rained down daily, but slow, torturous,
      agonized death -- death, or a lifetime of suffering for Viet
      Nam's future mothers and their babies, who would live out
      their short lives with deformed bodies and incurable cancers;
      and these horrors will be revisited upon all succeeding
      generations, to the horizons of time.

      A brilliant WBAI political scholar and humanitarian named Leo
      Cawley was representative of the multitudes of American victims of
      that war. Leo was a combat Marine who suffered for twenty years
      until his death from Dow Chemical's lucrative defoliant/depopulant.
      But even as he withered away, Leo condemned Bush's Persian Gulf
      War with passion and compassion. We could all give at least a
      bit of our time and energy to organizing against tomorrow's
      holocausts for the sake of tomorrow's victims, and in memory
      of yesterday's victims.

      The evil men of the military-industrial complex and their CIA
      will never be brought to trial. But that's okay. We're working
      toward a higher form of justice than even the rectification of
      the U.S. Government's farcical facade of a justice system could
      possibly imply. We're striving, not to throw these genocidists
      into jail cells, but rather, to defeat their system of evil before
      they can launch more such genocidal adventures like the ones in
      Korea, Viet Nam, Angola, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Kuwait and Iraq.

          John DiNardo