soc.culture.turkish Frequently Answered Questions (FAQ) List =============================================================================== You can send updates to sctfaq@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal) 1993/10/20 15:09:49 History: ======== After a few initial lists of travel agents and mailing lists, Ahmet Parlakbilek wrote the initial version of the Frequently asked questions list for soc.culture.turkish in July 1992, before turning it over to me for maintenance. He is going to be busy for a while, and I intend to take care of it. Please send suggestions and updates to sctfaq@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal). Please keep in mind that I only maintain this collection, and have no means of verifying the information contained herein continuously. Also, I don't read soc.culture.turkish regularly, so don't count on me to automatically update any changes that might apply in your opinion. If you notice that something does not apply, is missing, or has changed, please let me know so that I can update it. A detailed list of most recent changes are listed at the end of this document. Thank you for your cooperation in advance. Contents: ========= This is a list of the headings you can find by searching for the abbreviation. Subject Abbrev ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Visiting Turkiye ................................................ [Travel] -> Where can I get cheap tickets to Turkiye? -> Can I take one or more camera/camcorder/laptop to Turkiye? -> Does my work in Turkiye? -> How can I have a long distance call from Turkiye? -> New area codes for dialing to Turkiye (detailed) -> What beverages are available? -> Ionian Coast Info Turkish Language ................................................ [Language] -> What is the origin of Turkish? -> Is Turkish a hard-to-learn language? -> Which alphabet do people use in Turkiye? -> How can I use Turkish alphabet in Wordperfect/Mac/TeX? -> Additional font info for DOS/Windows/Mac -> Are there any books to learn Turkish? Turkish Food .................................................... [Food] -> Are there any Turkish restaurants in the US? Radio Broadcasts ................................................ [Broadcasts] -> Are there any Turkish radio/TV programmes in North America? Electronic Communication ........................................ [E-mail] -> How can I communicate with someone in Turkiye via e-mail? -> Is there any electronic mail list for discussions related to Turkish people/culture etc.? History ......................................................... [History] Poetry .......................................................... [Poetry] Headings: ========= [Travel] VISITING TURKIYE.............................................................. -> Where can I get cheap tickets to Turkiye? Travel Agencies, where you can find tickets to Turkiye, are: Last verified ------------- FREEDOM ............. 1-212-697-4656 MISTIK930820 1-800-929-8283 1-212-697-4038 Fax PICASSO TRAVEL....... 1-212-751-9051 MISTIK930820 1-800-525-3632 (Travel Agents Sevin, sule, and Ani) 1-212-751-9053 Fax ISTANBUL TRAVEL & TOURS, INC. MISTIK930820 1-212-754-4888 1-800-TURKIYE (1-800-887-5493) 1-212-838-7568 1-212-308-2350 Fax THY ................. 1-212-986-5050 MISTIK930820 1-800-874-TURK (1-800-874-8875) 1-212-818-1754 Fax CLUB AMERICA ........ 1-212-972-2865 MISTIK930820 1-800-221-4969 1-212-953-7935 Fax ANADOLU TRAVEL ...... 1-800-ANADOLU MISTIK930820 1-212-486-4012 1-212-486-4014 Fax TURSAN .............. 1-800-451-6050 MISTIK930820 1-800-875-0075 1-212-888-1180 UNITED WORLD ........ 1-201-523-5950 (YaSar Bey) MISTIK930820 SUNSET .............. 1-800-243-1500 MISTIK930820 1-818-368-2324 1-818-366-3595 Fax TCI TRAVEL .......... 1-800-333-7033 (Dallas - Ercument Kilic) MISTIK931019 1-214-630-3344 1-214-630-3477 Fax S&S TRAVEL .......... 1-516-756-0275 MISTIK931019 1-516-756-2543 Fax FAME TRAVEL ......... 1-718-263-5636 (HepSen Arsel, Susan Tuncer) MISTIK931019 1-718-575-4067 Fax MOON TRAVEL ......... 1-212-564-5839/5840 (Kazim) MISTIK931019 1-800-938-2FLY 1-212-564-5853 Fax SULTAN TRAVEL 1-817-263-5804 Angle/ZUbeyde (Texas) MISTIK931019 1-817-263-7004 Fax [maintainer's note: I did call up the numbers above and verified them. I will continue with the rest on another day. ] The company above and below are not affiliated. SULTAN TRAVEL ....... 1-416-923-7936 (Toronto) SKYTREK ............. 1-613-829-3300 (Ottowa - Leyla Baran) CONNECTION TOURS .... 1-212-486-9633 1-800- -> Can I take one or more camera/camcorder/laptop to Turkiye? Yes, but according to law, those should be recorded to your passport at the time of your entrance and they should be checked upon leaving. Usually, the customs officer do not create problems for a single camera/camcorder etc. However, it is a good practice to register them, especially when you have more than one. (..be advised that like most customs officers, they do not care whether you miss your plane or not..) -> Does my work in Turkiye? 220 volts, 50 Hz. is used in Turkiye instead of the 120 volts, 60 Hz. used in North America. If your device does not mind frequency, it is easy to make it work in Turkiye by the help of an inexpensive transformer. In particular, you may use the small transformers sold at Radio Shack for low-energy consumption (less than 50 watts) devices. If you would like to take a stereo (amplifier, tape deck, tuner etc.), you should buy a powerful 220v.-120v. transformer (preferably from Turkiye, not to carry this heavy thing with you). The amplifier, CD player, tape deck mostly do not create problems. Tuners, on the other hand, has the problem of different frequency spacings of radio stations in the US: AM spacing is 9 kHz instead of 10 kHz and FM spacing is 100 kHz instead of 200 kHz in TUrkiye. This means you may not tune AM stations accurately in TUrkiye. Finally, some turntables, which controls the pitch with the power supply frequency may create problems: you can adjust the speed manually in many of them, but if this fails, the RPM drops to 5/6 of the origin. -> How can I have a long distance call from Turkiye? (Information about AT&T and MCI provided by Ibrahim Semiz) There are public phones available for this purpose. You need to purchase some tokens from PTT (Turkish Post/Telegraph/Telephone Company). One token is on the order of $1 and you probably need a few for a single call. The long distance code for Turkiye is 90. But the most practical way make international calls from Turkiye (or almost any country for that matter) is to use your calling card. For example, AT&T has services called `USA Direct' and `World Connect', where you dial 99 80 01 22 77 from any phone in Turkiye, and get connected to AT&T. If you are calling a number in the US, you can place your call yourself, assisted by English voice prompts. If you want to call one of the 46 (at last count) countries on AT&T's list, you wait for an operator who assists you (Presumably, such calls would be more expensive). If you are calling from a residence, your host does not get charged anything, or you can make the call from any pay phone with a local (`small') token. Of course, you get the bill from AT&T. This is cheaper than calling from a residence (in Turkiye). I don't know how it compares to calling from public phones with tokens, but it probably is cheaper, and you don't have to struggle to feed tokens to the thing at the rate ! of one every thirty seconds. MCI has a similiar service, on which somebody else may supply details. -> New area codes for dialing to Turkiye. [Maintainer's Note: I would like to express my sincere and special thanks to Mr Orhan GOkCol (UCGOKCOL.TRITU.Bitnet) for going thru the effort of sending me the list of the new codes and changes from TUrkiye with fax and postal mail. He made it possible to have detailed information about the area code changes, affected cities, and the changes relating to each city. Thank you! ] The area codes for the cities in Turkiye are changing. The current ones will be working until the end of 1993, but it is a good idea to start using them now. Calls to another area code in Turkiye start with a '0', and international calls start with '00'. All phone numbers are being changed to 7 digits. The following is a known list of new area codes and a summary of changes for each city. In changing the phone numbers to 7 digits, a number of digits will be inserted in front of the original phone number explained in the comments part of the table below. City Code Comment ------ ---- -------------------------------------------- Adana 322 KarSIyaka, K.Esat, K.KOprU, TepebaG: insert 3 GazipaSa, AtatUrk, ZiyapaSa, Bul, CemalpaSa: insert 4 Yurt, Yeni Baraj, MahfesIGmaz: insert 2 AdIyaman 416 Numbers starting with 2: insert 23 Numbers starting with 3 and 6: insert 21 Afyon 272 insert 21 AGrI 472 insert 21 Aksaray 382 insert 21 Amasya 358 insert 21 Ankara 312 No Change Antalya 242 Numbers starting with 27,20,41-43,47,58: insert 2 Numbers starting with 21-23,25,26,30,32,34,39,40,44: insert 3 Ardahan 478 Insert 211 Artvin 466 undetermined AydIn 256 Numbers starting with 2,3,4: insert 21 Numbers starting with 5: insert 22 BalIkesir 266 Insert 2 BartIn 378 Numbers starting with 2: insert 21 Numbers starting with 7: insert 22 Batman 488 Insert 21 Bayburt 458 Insert 211 Bilecik 228 Insert 21 Numbers starting with 3: insert 21 Bitlis 434 Numbers starting with 61-64: insert 21 Numbers starting with 65-67: insert 22 Bolu 374 Insert 21 Burdur 348 Numbers starting with 22-24: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3,4,21,26: insert 23 Bursa 224 Numbers starting with 20-24,33-36,43,46,47,50-55,57: insert 2 Numbers starting with 27-29,60-62,66-68: insert 3 Numbers starting with 41,42: insert 4 canakkale 286 Insert 21 cankIrI 376 Insert 21 corum 364 Numbers starting with 2,3: insert 21 Numbers starting with 4,6: insert 22 Numbers starting with 48: insert 23 Denizli 258 Numbers starting with 61-66,68: insert 2 Numbers starting with 71,73,77: insert 3 DiyarbakIr 412 Insert 2 Edirne 284 Numbers starting with 2-3: insert 21 Numbers starting with 57,58: insert 23 Numbers starting with 5: insert 22 ElazIg 424 Numbers starting with 2,8,51: insert 21 Numbers starting with 4: insert 22 Numbers starting with 3,6,7: insert 23 Numbers starting with 71: insert 24 Erzincan 446 Numbers starting with 2,4: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3: insert 22 Erzurum 442 Numbers starting with 2,8: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3-4: insert 23 Numbers starting with 5-6: insert 31 Numbers starting with 7: insert 32 EskiSehir 222 Numbers starting with 21,27,28,30-34,36,37,39: insert 2 Numbers starting with 20,22-24,35: insert 3 Gaziantep 342 Numbers starting with 20,25,26,30-35,50: insert 2 Numbers starting with 21,23,24,36,38,39: insert 3 Giresun 454 Insert 21 GUmUShane 456 Insert 21 Hatay 326 Insert 21 Hakkari 438 Insert 211 IGdIr 476 Numbers starting with 71-74: insert 21 Numbers starting with 75-77: insert 22 Isparta 246 Numbers starting with 8,20,21: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3,7: insert 22 Numbers starting with 2: insert 23 ICel 324 Numbers starting with 23,31-35,37,38: insert 2 Numbers starting with 20,21,24-26,28,36: insert 3 Istanbul 212 European Side. No Change in numbers. 216 Asian Side. No Change in numbers. K.MaraS 344 Numbers starting with 2,4,55-57: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3,50,51: insert 22 Numbers starting with 6,7: insert 23 Karaman 338 Insert 21. Kars 474 Numbers starting with 2: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3: insert 22 Kastamonu 366 Insert 21 Kayseri 352 Numbers starting with 22-25,31-35,40: insert 2 Other numbers: insert 3 KIrIkkale 318 Numbers starting with 2,8: insert 21 Numbers starting with 4: insert 22 Numbers starting with 3: insert 23 Numbers starting with 5: insert 24 Numbers starting with 62-65: insert 25 Numbers starting with 69: insert 26 KIrklareli 288 Numbers starting with 2,4: insert 21 Numbers starting with 7: insert 22 KIrSehir 386 Numbers starting with 26: insert 25 Other numbers: insert 21 Kocaeli 262 Numbers starting with 21,22,24,25,31,64: insert 3 Numbers starting with 23,26,29,39: insert 2 Konya 332 Numbers starting with 33-36,39,41,44,45,47-49: insert 2 Other numbers: insert 3 KUtahya 274 Numbers starting with 2,6: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3-5: insert 22 Malatya 422 Numbers starting with 38: insert 2 Other numbers: insert 3 Manisa 236 Insert 2 Mardin 482 Insert 21 MuGla 252 Insert 21 MuS 436 Insert 21 NevSehir 384 Insert 21 NiGde 388 Numbers starting with 3,20,21: insert 21 Numbers starting with 22-24: insert 23 Ordu 452 Numbers starting with 2,4: insert 21 Numbers starting with 30-33: insert 22 Numbers starting with 34-36: insert 23 Rize 464 Numbers starting with 2,30-32: insert 21 Numbers starting with 33-36: insert 22 Sakarya 264 Insert 2 Samsun 362 Numbers starting with 28,30-34,38,39: insert 2 Numbers starting with 20,31,32,35,37: insert 4 Siirt 484 Numbers starting with 2: insert 21 Numbers starting with 3: insert 22 Sinop 368 Insert 2 Sivas 346 Insert 2 sanlIurfa 414 Numbers starting with 5,6: insert 21 Numbers starting with 2-4: insert 31 sIrnak 486 Insert 21 TekirdaG 282 Insert 2 Tokat 356 Insert 21 Trabzon 462 Numbers Starting with 21,22,25,26: insert 3 Numbers Starting with 23,24,29: insert 2 Tunceli 428 Insert 21 USak 276 Numbers Starting with 2,5: insert 21 Numbers Starting with 3,7: insert 22 Van 432 Numbers Starting with 2,4,6,7: insert 21 Numbers Starting with 3: insert 22 Yozgat 354 Insert 21 Zonguldak 372 Insert 2 -> What beverages are available? (from Ian Davis, summary of responses he received to his survey) Beer: - Efes Pilsen, most people say that this is the best. - Tuborg (originally Danish) - Tekel, pure Turkish but may not be found in Tourist resorts. Soft Drinks: Ayran, sIra, kIzIlcIk, seftali - totally different than anything available in UK. Wine: much better than beer, including KavaklIdere, Villa Doluca. Both red and white are good. -> Ionian Coast Info (from Ian Davis, summary of responses he received to his survey) Shopping: Bodrum is one of the most expensive towns to shop in (40% more expensive than Istanbul).Buying anything must bargin until the shop keeper gives up. If you are looking for more expensive souvenirs, its worth while traveling to other less well know towns in the area. Places to see: The castle in Bodrum ( rebuilt by the knights of St John) is worth a visit. Troy- the famous city is within traveling distance of Bodrum, mostly ruined but still worth a visit. Bergama-site of one of the seven original churches mentioned in the bible. Has nice amphitheater,some pillars still standing, nice arches and a few mosiacs Efes-site of another one of the seven churches,Paul lived here. Is very well preserved, very good amphitheater, a library, roads of marble and is said to be a very exceptional site, comes highly recommended. These places are only the tip of the iceberg. >>More info on where-to-visit, what-to-take-with-you etc. missing. [Language] TURKISH LANGUAGE ........................................................... -> What is the origin of Turkish? Turkish is an Ural-Altaic language, which is spoken in different forms from Balkans in the west to China and Siberia in the east. Approximately 150 million people speak Turkish in the world. There are four main dialects of Turkish (according to Colloquial Turkish - Y. Mardin): a) Oriental dialects of Altay b) Western dialects of Kirgiz and Tatar c) Dialects of Central Asia d) Southern dialects: Turkmen, Azerbeycan, Anadolu, Kirim and Osmanli Turkcesi. -> Is Turkish a hard-to-learn language? Yusuf Mardin answers this question as follows: "Turkish is an easy, logical language. There is no gender, no he, she or it, but one word for all three." "In Turkish, there are no diphtongs. When two vowels come together, each retains its individual sound. Every letter in every word is sounded individually and every word is pronounced as it is written." [maintainer's note: we need to refine this section, please e-mail any suggestions. ] -> Which alphabet do people use in Turkiye? Latin alphabet with some modifications. There are 6 extra letters: _ c i(without dot) g "o s "u ' ' q, w, x does not exist in Turkish alphabet. [maintainer's note: Recently, a new Turkic alphabet was agreed upon, and there are new letters which contradict the statement above. An update will follow. ] -> How can I use Turkish alphabet in Wordperfect/Mac/TeX? Wordperfect has a Turkish keyboard file which can be used to generate Turkish letters by the help of Cntrl-Alt keys. For Mac, there is a Turkish Mac System and Turkish fonts. All of those can be found at ftp.cs.umn.edu under the directory /pub/users/cosar for anonymous ftp (Username ftp). There is also a Tex style file, easyturkish.sty which generates Turkish letters for Tex document preparing system. You may contact akgul@trbilun.bitnet for Turkish Tex and easyturkish.sty. Turkish fonts also do exist in several sites for ftp; you may try, host:kth.se directory:/kth/tex/stuttgart/fonts/metafont or host: utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp directory:/TeX/fonts for anonymous ftp. -> Additional font info for DOS/Windows. (by Mustafa Soysal) Other than the above mentioned Turkish fonts provided for ftp by Ahmet CoSar at the University of Minnesota, the following information on additionaly freely available fonts was provided by Erol Esen at Colorado State University about his DOS/Windows fonts. Furthermore, Bora Baysal at the Catholic University of America provided general information on a commercialy distributed font package he can provide you with. The information about the packages is included below. For detailed information about the current package contents, please contact the provided contact e-mail addresses. Font info by Erol Esen ---------------------- A set of Turkish fonts are designed both for the DOS platform as well as the Windows system. DOS fonts are designed to be used for those who have VGA monitors and EPSON printers. Windows fonts are to be used with the Adobe Type Manager (ATM); you may use any printer your Windows system supports. Windows fonts can be used for serious writing, as well as informal. There are batch files that will assist you. If you have any questions you can send an e-mail to: esen@mozart.cs.colostate.edu Font info by Bora Baysal ------------------------ TurkFontPack is a Turkish font pack which currently includes 10 Turkish fonts (including all Turkish characters and English characters), Mac version of the package for system 6 or 7, and a freeware Windows program in order to type Turkish characters on standard non-Turkish keyboards, using two-key sequences. The fonts are in various font formats which are PostScript Type 1, TrueType, bitmap, Unix, and Encapsulated PostScript. For additional info, please contact Bora Baysal via e-mail at 18baysal@cua.edu. [maintainer's note: This address will expire after 8/31/93, use dm120@cleveland.freenet.edu instead. ] -> Are there any books to learn Turkish? Yes, we even have an online tutor. The online tutor/teacher (for pc) is available at wuarchive.wustl.edu or other simtel20 mirrors under the directory /mirrors/msdos/langtutor/turkish1.lzh. We did not try it, so we do not have any idea about its completeness, usefulness etc. The books that might be used to learn Turkish are: - "Colloquial Turkish", Yusuf Mardin, London Routledge (several editions exist, some include a tape.) - "Colloquial Turkish", Arin Bayraktaroglu & Sinan Bayraktaroglu, Routledge, 1992 (Available with cassette). - "Turkish in Three Months", Bengisu Rana, Hugo's Language Books Ltd., 1989 (Available with cassette) - "Turkish Basic Course" (2 volumes), Lloyd B. Swift, Selman Agrali, 1966, State Dept. Series (can be found in libraries, elemantary/intermediate level) - "Yabancilar icin Turkce Dersleri", Kaya Can, Middle East Technical University, Ankara, 1981 - "Turkish", Paul Wittek, London, 1956 The following books include Turkish stories and poems: - "Turkish Sampler: Writings for all readers", Muge Galin, Indiana University Turkish Studies, 1989 - "Turkish Literary Reader", Andreas Tietze, Indiana University, 1963 - "An Anthology of Turkish Short Stories", Editor: Ali Alparslan, Publications of rge RCD Cultural Institute No:45, Istanbul, 1973 And about dictionaries: (by Jack Campin) By FAR the best portable dictionary is one you can only get in Turkiye - the Berlitz/ABC Kitabevi "Ingilizce-Turkce/Turkce-Ingilizce Sozluk", 1988 (ISBN 975 09 0150 9). It suffers from the usual problem in Berlitz materials of not giving you any even remotely naughty words - god help you if you have to explain a gynaecological problem with it - but it's wonderful on food terms. About A6-sized, bright red. If it's out of print, the Redhouse Elsozlugu is a reasonable substitute.[It is not out of print, I checked it--ahmet] For a big dictionary, the Oxford two-volume one (also published cheaper by ABC in Turkey, in an edition that may only be sold there) is hard to beat, though the Redhouse Cagdas Turkce-Ingilizce Sozluk is just as good (one way only). You may have problems getting that in the US. The Oxford is also available in a one-volume abridgment. [Food] TURKISH RESTAURANTS .......................................................... Contributed by tekalp@ee.rochester.edu (A. Murat Tekalp) in Manhattan: Istanbul Kebap Restoran 303 East 80th Street New York, NY (1. ve 2. Avenueler arasi) (212) 517-6880 Uskudar 2nd Avenue and 73-74th Street New York, NY Marmaris 1131 Lexington Ave. New York, NY Anatolia 1422 3rd Ave. New York, NY Yatagan 104 Mc Dougle Street New York, NY (one block south of Washington Square) in New Jersey: Beyti Kebap Salonu 4104 Park Avenue Union City, New Jersey (around 40th street) Urfa Kebab Restaurant 520 Anderson Avenue Cliffside Park, New Jersey 07010 (201) 943-1095 Kervan Kabob House Restaurant 360 Lawton Avenue, Cliffside Park, N.J. Istanbul Tavern Paterson Plank Road North Bergen, New Jersey in CA: [Maintainer's Note: according to KUrSat KIzIloGlU, Moonangel Restaurant closed while ago. There are restaurants in the San Francisco area. I need to hear about them from readers in that area. ] [Broadcasts] BROADCASTS ................................................................... -> Are there any Turkish radio/TV programmes in North America? The following are the frequencies and time periods of various Turkish broadcasting services. TV Broadcast in the United States of America: Broadcast schedule changed. More updates to follow. Radio Programmes: Voice of Turkiye: (Everyday) EUROPE 9795 kHz 21.00-22.00 GMT 31 mB. English 9685 23.00-00.00 31 English 9685 00.00-04.00 31 Turkish 15267 05.01-00.00 19 Turkish 15267 10.00-17.00 19 Turkish 9460 17.00-23.00 31 Turkish 9515 06.00-10.00 31 Turkish 9515 11.00-16.00 31 Turkish NORTH EAST AMERICA 9445 04.00-05.00 31 English 9445 23.00-00.00 31 English 9445 00.00-04.00 31 Turkish BBC: (all according to EST. For conversion, GMT = EST + 5) Time Day Frequency 23:00-23:30 (Mon-Sat) 6050,7210,9750 03:00-04:00 (Sun) 1296,6015,9635,9740,17695 04:00-04:15 (Mon-Fri) 6015,9740,17695 11:00-12:00 (Sun) 6015,15135,17640 TURKISH CULTURAL HOUR (Northern San Francisco Bay Area) Time Day Frequency 17:00-19:00 (Sat) FM90.3 KUSF ORIENT EXPRESS (Southern San Francisco Bay Area, Monterey and Santa Cruz) Time Day Frequency 18:00-21:00 (3rd Sat of each month) FM 91.5 KKUP TURKISH MUSIC HOUR WUVT (Southwestern Virginia Area) Time Day Frequency 13:00-15:00 Sat FM 90.7 TURKISH MUSIC HOUR WRPI (50 mile radius of Troy, NY. This includes Albany, Schenectady, and small towns in MA and VT near the NY state border.) Time Day Frequency 11:00-12:00 Sat FM 91.5 [E-mail] ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION ..................................................... -> How can I communicate with someone in Turkiye via e-mail? There are EARN/bitnet and Internet nodes in Turkiye. A list of nodes ( not necessarily complete) is as follows: Node name Organization City Contact (user-id) ------------- -------------------------- ------------ ----------------- EARN/BITNET nodes: emunivm1 East Mediterranean University G.Magusa.TRNC necdet trakden Akdeniz University Antalya saka tranavm1 Anadolu University Eskisehir onder tranavm2 Anadolu University Eskisehir onder tratauni Ataturk University Erzurum bisam42 trbilun Bilkent University Ankara arkun trboun Bogazici University Istanbul kaylan trcuniv Cukurova University Adana ilhami trdeu1 Dokuz Eylul University Izmir ayten trdicle Dicle University Diyarbakir baykal trearn Ege University Izmir aytac trege1 Ege University Izmir aytac trerun Erciyes University Kayseri yapici trfirat Firat University Elazig uzun trgantep Gaziantep University Gaziantep ege trhun Hacettepe University Ankara unal triuvm11 Istanbul University Istanbul erol tritu Istanbul Teknik University Istanbul harmanci trktu Karadeniz Teknik University Trabzon aras trkosgeb Small and Medium Industry Ankara sogut Development Organization trmarunv Marmara University Istanbul iskar1 trmetu Middle East Technical Uni. Ankara anlagan trmetua Middle East Technical Uni. Ankara ozgit tromuni Ondokuz Mayis University Samsun nazmit tryildiz Yildiz University Istanbul yahya tryldz02 Yildiz University Istanbul yahya tryok Higher Education Council Ankara arinc trtetm Tubitak Info. Tech. Center Ankara selcuk trgebze Tubitak Gebze Gebze trmbeam Tubitak Gebze Marmara Rsrch. Gebze [maintainer's note: internet information changed entirely, update will follow] -> Is there any electronic mail list for discussions related to Turkish people/culture etc.? Yes, there are plenty, and the list below does not claim to be complete, however, the most important ones should be covered by these. We will not express a preference for this or that list, try them out to find the ones that suit your taste. However, The Turkish Radio Hour News List (trknws-l) is important for keeping up with the recent news and therefore should be mentioned here. Also, please note that Mcimail is offering a special e-mail subscription under TURKNEWS grouprate to the subscribers of trknws-l. The first year costs $15, and $25 thereafter. Contact Bret Fisherkeller or Terri Malone at (510) 945-0491 for details on the TURKNEWS group rate. You need a modem, a computer with communications software or a terminal to use this service. Access is available by calling an 800 number. Other lists can be summarized (not complete) as follows: listname topics discussed mail address command for subscription -------- -------------------------- ---------------------- --------------------- amiga-tr amiga users listserv@trearn.bitnet sub amiga-tr fullname autos-l classic and sports cars listserv@tritu.bitnet sub autos-l fullname bilfel science and philosophy listserv@ bio-dost biological studies listserv@trearn.bitnet sub bio-dost fullname borsa-l Turkish stock-exchange listserv@trearn.bitnet sub borsa-l fullname burc Bogazici U. alumni listserv@trearn.bitnet sub burc fullname c_c++ c & c++ prog. lang. list listserv@tritu.bitnet sub c_c++ fullname cclub-l computer club list listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub cclub-l fullname cevre-l environmetal issues listserv@tritu.bitnet sub cevre-l fullname cmu-l Commun. of Medit. Univ. listserv@trearn.bitnet sub cmu-l fullname csp-l cross Sys. Prod. Disc. listserv@trearn.bitnet sub csp-l fullname deniz-l gemi insaati/deniz bil. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub deniz-l fullname dkb-l dkb rt graph. interf. dev. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub dkb-l fullname dkbport dkb rt port. 2 oth. Platf. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub dkbport fullname dost Turkish scientists listserv@trearn.bitnet sub dost fullname duvar-l general announc./disc. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub duvar-l fullname esper-l esperanto list listserv@trearn.bitnet sub esper-l fullname exper-l exper. on viral attacks listserv@trearn.bitnet sub exper-l fullname friend-l friend server discussions listserv@trearn.bitnet sub friend-l fullname herb medicinal and arom. plants listserv@trearn.bitnet sub herb fullname ieee-ege ieee Ege student branch listserv@trearn.bitnet sub ieee-ege fullname ieee-tr ieee Turkish chap. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub ieee-tr fullname image-l image proc. & applications listserv@trearn.bitnet sub image-l fullname inet-tr Internet quest/answers listserv@vm.cc.metu.edu.tr sub inet-tr fullname itu-l I.T.U. alumni listserv@tritu.bitnet sub itu-l fullname kimya-l chemistry listserv@tritu.bitnet sub kimya-l fullname kitap-l books listserv@tritu.bitnet sub kitap-l fullname kutup-l Turkish libraries listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub kutup-l fullname macturk mac users listserv@trearn.bitnet sub macturk fullname mount-l Mountaineering listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub mount-l fullname metu-l METU alumni listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub metu-l fullname misc misc. questions, requests listserv@trearn.bitnet sub misc fullname multas-l multitasking progr. for PC listserv@trearn.bitnet sub multas-l fullname pascal-l pascal language listserv@trearn.bitnet sub pascal-l fullname politika Turkish politics listserv@tritu.bitnet sub politika fullname progdil programming languages listserv@trearn.bitnet sub progdil fullname ptt-l everything-u listserv@trearn.bitnet sub ptt-l fullname sanat-l arts listserv@tritu.bitnet sub sanat-l fullname sinema-l movies listserv@tritu.bitnet sub sinema-l fullname senfoni weekly commentory listserv@trearn.bitnet sub senfoni fullname sysprg-l system programmers list listserv@tritu.bitnet sub sysprg-l fullname swl-tr SWL in Turkiye listserv@tritu.bitnet sub swl-tr fullname tel everything listserv@uscvm.bitnet sub tel fullname textiles textiles, clothing listserv@trearn.bitnet sub textiles fullname tnng Turkish neural netw. group listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub tnng fullname travel-l tourism discussions listserv@trearn.bitnet sub travel-l fullname trknws-l news listserv@uscvm.bitnet sub trknws-l fullname tsaa-l everything listserv@purccvm.bitnet sub tsaa-l fullname turkce-l Turkish as a science lang. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub turkce-l fullname turkmath Turkish Math. listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub turkmath fullname tv-l tv discussions listserv@trearn.bitnet sub tv-l fullname urban-l urban planning listserv@trearn.bitnet sub urban-l fullname uzay-l Hava-Uzay Bilim ve Tekn. listserv@tritu.bitnet sub uzay-l fullname virus-l computer viruses listserv@tritu.bitnet sub virus-l fullname vm-show comics magazine listserv@trearn.bitnet sub vm-show fullname yardimci sistem ile ilgili tartisma listserv@trearn.bitnet sub yardimci fullname yoneylem Turkish OR list listserv@tritu.bitnet sub yoneylem fullname yunus Turkish tex users listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub yunus fullname All you have to do to subscribe to any of these lists is to send a mail to the "mail address" containing the "command for subscription" as the body of the message. "fullname" should be your first and last name. [History] HISTORY ...................................................................... Turkish history is a very long subject to include here. There are several frequently asked questions on this issue. We allocated a directory (/pub/users/cosar/history) at ftp.cs.umn.edu for this purpose. There are articles there including recently posted Oztuna articles and excerpts from Coles. You may contact to cosar@cs.umn.edu, if you would like to upload any information on this topic. [Poetry] POETRY ....................................................................... This section is provided by Ahmet Cosar Archive-name: auto/soc.culture.turkish/Turkish-Poetry-in-ftp-cs-umn-edu There is a new directory in ftp.cs.umn.edu named "users/cosar/literature" where you can find about 70 Turkish Poems, some as English translations. If you have any more Turkish Poetry/Story ready in electronic form please mail them to cosar@mail.cs.umn.edu to be added to the archive for public benefit. I also put an older list of Turkish Student Associations to the archive but it's not publicly readable since it might be considered private information. If you send me an e-mail asking for a specific University's Turkish Student Association I can mail you the contact address of the person in charge or forward your request to them if an e-mail address is available. Turkish Poems in the Archive (Poet_Name.Poem_Name): --------------------------------------------------- ABdulhalik_Uygur.Oygan Ahmet_Arif.Anadolu Ahmet_Arif.Hasretinden_prangalar_Eskittik Ahmet_Arif.Iceride Ahmet_Arif.Otuzuc_Kursun Ahmet_Arif.Sevdan_Beni Ahmet_Arif.Suskun Ahmet_Arif.Thirty-Three_Bullets Ahmet_Arif.Yalniz_Degiliz Asaf_Halet_Celebi.Camli_Odalardan Asik_Veysel.Uzun_Ince_Bir_Yoldayim Asik_Veysel.Vatan_Sevgisini_Icten_Duyanlar Atilla_ilhan.Elde_Var_Huzun Attila_Ilhan.Emirganda_Cay_Saati Attila_Ilhan.Haci_Muratin_Olumu Azeri_Poetry.Aglarsa_Anam_Aglar Behcet_Necatigil.Secret_Love Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Adak Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Bin_Ikinci_Gece(Yolcu) Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Binbirinci_Gece(Hanci) Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Guz_Dusunceleri Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Kislada_Bahar Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Sessiz_Senfoni Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Ska-lar-ya Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Yagmurda_Unutulan_Sarki Bekir_Sitki_Erdogan.Yosma C_Yucel.Itiraza_Itirazim_Var Can_Yucel.Bir_Cin_Siiri Cemal_Sureyya.Ask Cemal_Sureyya.Gazel Cemal_Sureyya.Kisa_Turkiye_Tarihi Edip_Cansever.Su Edip_Cansever.Yercekimli_Karanfil Fazil_Husnu_Daglarca.Dayak Fazil_Husnu_daglarca.Disardan_Gazel Fuzuli.1 Gagavuz_Siirleri Hasan_Huseyin_Korkmazgil.Haziranda_Olmek_Zor Ismet_Ozel.Sevgilime_Bir_Kefen Karadenizden_Ezgiler.Aksam_Olur_Karanlik Mehmet_Akif_Ersoy.Secret_of_Progress Nazim_Hikmet.21-1-1924 Nazim_Hikmet.Ayaga_Kalkin_Efendiler Nazim_Hikmet.Blue_Eyed_Giant Nazim_Hikmet.Haber Nazim_Hikmet.Hasret Nazim_Hikmet.Hasret_2 Nazim_Hikmet.Hosgeldin Nazim_Hikmet.Kadinlar Nazim_Hikmet.Karima_Mektup Nazim_Hikmet.Kavak Nazim_Hikmet.Memleketimi_Seviyorum Nazim_Hikmet.This_Country_is_Ours Nazim_Hikmet.Turk_Koylusu Nazim_Hikmet.Vasiyet Nazim_Hikmet.Yine_Memleketim_Uzerine_Soylenmistir Necip_Fazil.Canim_Istanbul Necip_Fazil.Cile Nevzat_Celik.Safak_Turkusu Niyazi_Misri.Derman_aradim_Derdime Orhan_Veli.Bedava Orhan_Veli.For_You Orhan_Veli.I_am_Listening_to_Istanbul Orhan_Veli.Kapali_Carsi Orhan_Veli.Macera Orhan_Veli.The_Guest_+_Recreation Sait_Faik.Love_Letter Yeni_Turku.Goc_Yollari Yunus_Emre.Dervishes Yunus_Emre.Ilim_Kendin_Bilmektir Yunus_Emre.Soylenilen_Bir_Kelami Latest FAQ History: ------------------- sct.faq,v Revision 1.14 1993/10/20 15:09:49 Mustafa_Soysal - Removed Moonangel restaurant from the list, closed. (KUrSat KIzIloGlu) Revision 1.13 1993/10/19 23:06:02 Mustafa_Soysal - Changed AM spacing info, thanks to Rich Wales, (Rich Wales) Ibrahim Semiz, and Suat Ayoz. - Added "Colloquial Turkish - BayraktaroGlu" (Bruce V. Schwartz) and "Turkish in Three Months". - Changed BBC broadcast hours (Suat Ayoz) - Changed WUVT broadcast hours (BahadIr Acuner) Revision 1.12 1993/10/19 18:22:09 Mustafa_Soysal - Added very detailed information about phone number changes (Orhan GOkCol) sent by Orhan GOkCol (UCGOKCOL.TRITU.Bitnet) Special Thanks. - Added new section about Turkish Food, Restaurant (Murat Tekalp) information compiled by Murat Tekalp - Verified more travel agents (Mustafa Soysal) Revision 1.11 1993/08/29 21:56:18 Mustafa_Soysal - Added Isparta to the area code list (Mustafa Soysal) Revision 1.10 1993/08/29 15:51:39 Mustafa_Soysal - Changed submission e-mail address. (Mustafa Soysal) - Added another 800 number for Tursan Travel. (Mustafa Soysal) - Removed bogus/old travel agency number [UNKNOWN?], (Mustafa Soysal) it was actually a number at University of New Hampshire - Removed bogus number for Istanbul Travel (868-3394) (Mustafa Soysal) - Removed bogus listing for Hurturk, the numbers were (Mustafa Soysal) actually for Istanbul Travel & Tours, Inc. They have nothing to do with Hurturk. - Updated changed numbers for Freedom Travel (Mustafa Soysal) - Updated numbers for THY (Giray Pultar, Mustafa Soysal) - Updated numbers for Club America (Mustafa Soysal) - Updated listing for Picasso Travel (Mustafa Soysal) - Updated listing for United World (Mustafa Soysal) - Updated listing for Sunset Travel (Mustafa Soysal) - Blue Voyage changed name to Anadolu Travel (Mustafa Soysal) - Noted change in TV broadcast, update to follow. (Mustafa Soysal) - Updated radio broadcast for SW Virginia (Cem Unsal) - Added radio broadcast info for Troy, NY area (Seyfettin C GUlen) - Updated index, restructured entries (Mustafa Soysal) - Added more entries about Turkish fonts (Mustafa Soysal, Erol Esen, Bora Baysal) - Added inet-tr and updated/restructured (Erkan Tekman, Mustafa AkgUl, information in the topic. Mustafa Soysal) - Translated and added area code change information (Mustafa Soysal) posted by haldun@wotangate.sc.ti.com to TRKNWS-L Revision 1.9 1993/05/25 23:07:01 Mustafa_Soysal - Minor header changes, summary, etc. (Mustafa Soysal) Revision 1.8 1993/05/24 16:59:01 Mustafa_Soysal - Changed FAQ maintainer address (Mustafa Soysal) Revision 1.7 1993/05/23 00:41:53 Mustafa_Soysal - Inserted additional information about calling to/from Turkiye using AT&T and MCI. (Ibrahim Semiz) - Updated ftp infomation for ftp.cs.umn.edu. (Ahmet Cosar) Revision 1.6 1993/05/03 01:50:34 Mustafa_Soysal - Added Texas phone numbers for Sultan Travel (Sazi Temel, Sabit Adanur) Revision 1.5 1993/04/09 22:33:36 Mustafa_Soysal - Turkish TV Program (Voice of Anatolia) added. (Mustafa Soysal) - Turkish Music Hour added to the list. (BahadIr Bilal Acuner) - ptt-l mailing list info updated. (Ahmet Toprak) - Mcimail TURKNEWS grouprate announcement. (Ahmet Toprak) - Added news.answers to the posted groups list. (Mustafa Soysal) - Added more electronic lists. (Jan-Arendt Klingel) - Removed turksci, and fortran mailing lists. (Dale Ross) - Updated language tutor and country code info. (Jan-Arendt Klingel) - Updated travel info on Ionian coast and beverages. (Ian Davis) - Removed Travel 24 Inc, and Istanbul Travel from travel agencies list. Updated area code for Picasso Travel. (Mustafa Soysal) Revision 1.4 1992/12/11 00:00:00 Mustafa_Soysal - Bunch of new e-mail distribution lists added. (Mustafa Soysal, and others) - Ftp site name and anonymous login name at cs.umn.edu changed. (Ahmet Cosar) - Local broadcasts in the San Francisco Bay Area are listed now. (Ahmet Toprak) - New network nodes added/updated. (SItkI Aytac, and others) Revision 1.3 1992/08/27 00:00:00 Mustafa_Soysal - Corrected tel's subscription address in the example. Corrected Short Wave List name to swl (was wl). Thanks to Selim Guncer for pointing it out. Revision 1.2 1992/07/27 18:01:00 Mustafa_Soysal Changed format a bit and added yoneylem mailing list at tritu upon Erdem Ince's request. Changed description of tsaa-l mailing list upon Hasan Cam's request. 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