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  This FAQ list is intended for new subscribers to the Rolling Stones' 
  Internet mailing list and digest, known as 'Undercover', and users of 
  alt.rock-n-roll.stones, where it is a monthly posting.

  It is a four-part FAQ list, with the following sections:

        Part 1:  basic question list. You are reading it now.
        Part 2:  basic recording history 
        Part 3:  a bibliography of Rolling Stones-related material
        Part 4:  The "Lazy Man's Discography"

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        Jens Backlund        (jbacklund@finabo.abo.fi)
        Frank Blau 
        Jon Brode 
        Stephen D. Carter    (stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk)  
        D.H.
        Charles Papworth
        Ken Pennington       (hfin011@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu)
        Steve Portigal       (stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca)
        Anthony J. Rzepela   (rzepela@cvi.hahnemann.edu)
  
     We'd also like to thank the fine-tooth brigade: our FAQ helpers/
     proofreaders/fact-checkers:

        Todd Furesz          (furesz@kids.wustl.edu)
        Jim Henning          (ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu)
        Michael Honig        (honey@mwald5.chemie.uni-mainz.de)
        Mark C. Walters      (mark@pluto.logica.co.uk)


     Finally, we would like to thank the Rolling Stones, for....whatever.


Maintenance:   Maintenance on parts one, two, and  four are carried  out by 
------------   Anthony Rzepela. Part three, the bibliography, is maintained 
               by Stephen D. Carter, who  should  be emailed directly  with 
               updates, corrections, arguments, etc.


Summary of questions:
---------------------

        1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history?       
        2. Hey! Do you think they read email???
        3. Not even Bill?
        4. Where can I get an online discography?
        5. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete?
        6. Well, where *can* I get a complete one?
        7. What about CDs? What do I need for a complete
           set? How do they sound???
        8. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records????
        9. Where can I get bootlegs? 
       10. Which bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song?
       11. Where can I get online lyrics/chords/tabulature?
       12. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home?
       13. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"? 
       14. I'm a novice.  Can you recommend the best...
                a. albums
                b. movies  
                c. books
                d. home videos
                e. fanzines
       15. What is/who are 
                a. "Nanker Phelge"
                b. "The Glimmer Twins"
                c. "Rock and Roll Circus" 
                d. "Altamont"                  
                e. "Cocksucker Blues"                
       16. Gossip
                a. How many times have they been arrested?
                b. How many times have they been married?
                c. Will the band break up?
                d. Are they going to tour?
                e. Do you think this is the last time, really? 
                f. How old ARE they?
       17. Myths & legends:
                a. Did Keith really get his blood changed?
                b. Do they worship satan?
                c. Is Paul dead?


Sources used in this FAQ list:
------------------------------

(full publication information on these books can be found in part three of 
the FAQ list, The Bibliography From Hell)

The primary resources for fact-checking in this document are:

Dalton, David             - "The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years"
Giuliano, Geoffrey        - "The Rolling Stones Album"
Wyman, Bill               - "Stone Alone"
Weiner, Sue & Lisa Howard - "The Rolling Stones A to Z"


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Answers:


@Q1. Who ARE the Stones - what is the band lineup/history?

  The first Rolling Stones long-playing album was released in 1964, to
  enough advance excitement to encourage the band's management to
  release it with only a portrait of the band on the front.  Once you
  understand that, all the rest really just falls into place. 

  Originally comprised of Mick Jagger (vocals), Brian Jones  (gtr),
  Keith Richards (gtr), Ian Stewart (piano),  Charlie Watts (drums), and
  Bill Wyman (bass), Ian Stewart was 'demoted' by de facto manager 
  Andrew Loog Oldham by the time of their first album, because he did
  not look the part of a Rolling Stone.  Although Ian did not appear in
  photographs or get listed in band personnel information, he played,
  credited, on records and in concert with the Stones up until his death
  in 1985.

  The first 'real' personnel change took place with the dismissal of 
  Brian Jones in 1969, who died several weeks later.  Before his
  death,  his slot was filled by a young guitarist named Mick Taylor,
  who had been in John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and who stayed with the
  Stones until  December 1974.

  Ron Wood, already a star from his work with Rod Stewart and the Faces,
  joined as a 'special guest' in 1975, and became a full member by the
  end of  the year.  In 1993, bassist Bill Wyman, then 56,   officially
  quit after years of rumours and speculation.  As of this  writing, no
  permanent replacement has been announced for Mr. Wyman.

   
@Q2. Hey! Do you think they read email???

  There is no evidence that any popular musician is hooked into the
  Internet, and the world of electronic communication, unless you count
  Billy Idol. And maybe the Edge.

@Q3. Not even Bill?

  No!

@Q4. Where can I get an online discography?

  Part IV of this document has a minimal listing which includes all 
  Rolling Stones EPs and albums released in the US and UK, excluding
  out-of-print compilations. Original release dates, producer, song 
  lists, and maybe a biased comment or two, are added.

  A section of it lists tracks which cannot be found on albums as 
  of the time of this writing. 
        
@Q5. Hey! Why isn't this discography complete?   

  To assemble a complete discography of the Rolling Stones is indeed a 
  daunting task.  The band has, in its' long recorded history, multiple 
  versions of the same songs, multiple versions of an album depending on 
  country of origin, multiple record labels releasing their post-1970
  recordings,  mono and stereo versions of pre-1970 albums, mono and
  stereo and "electronically processed" stereo versions of individual
  songs, dozens and dozens of singles, dozens of European compilation 
  packages, and then, in the eighties, the re-release of three-quarters 
  of it all on compact disc. (!)

  To give you an idea of the volume, take the experience of German Stones' 
  authority Dieter Hoffman, who has a book out on the topic called the 
  'White Book'.  The work covers all these issues in excruciating detail,
  and requires more than 560 pages to do so.

  So, in a nutshell - *you* want a complete online discography? Be our
  guest, and feel free to type one up.
        
@Q6. Well, where *can* I get a complete one?

  Although it has a mistake or two (out of THOUSANDS of opportunities),
  Dieter  Hoffman's 'Das Weissbuch'  (German for the 'The White Book', 
  ISBN: 3980248940) lists all official releases, vinyl and CD, single and
  LP, promos and dance remixes,  by the Stones in Germany, Japan, the UK
  and the United States. It is more than 560 pages long and includes
  photographs of covers and labels, and a detailed index of all known
  recorded selections by the Stones, even those appearing on 'official
  unauthorized' recordings (see question 8).  It is available  as an
  import, and will set you back about $US 90.00.  As of this writing,  it
  is available from the Connecticut mail-order firm "The Disc Junkie".
  Their phone number is 1-(203)-483-8317.

  A more reasonably priced ($US 16), if less thorough and accurate book, 
  is available by Martin Elliott: 

            'The Rolling Stones: Complete Recording Sessions'
            ISBN: 0-7137-2118-9

  Great for a beginner, this book answers many basic questions. It is 
  current up to October 1989.
   
  Stones "fanzines" can also be a good ongoing source of information for 
  collectors and interested parties.  Please see the "fanzine" section 
  under question #14.  

        
@Q7. What about CDs? What do I need for a complete set? How do they sound???

  Part IV of this document also includes a brief summary on the 
  state of the Stones in the format of the eighties and nineties.

  It briefly overviews who issues Stones CDs, what you need for
  a complete set of Stones music on CD (answer: you can't do it 
  on Compact Disc just yet), and what kind of sound you can expect
  for your purchase.


@Q8. Can you at *least* tell me about the solo records????

  Fair enough. For our purposes we are not, at this time, including any 
  appearances by band members on others' recordings, or band members' 
  efforts at producing or presenting other artists, but restricting 
  ourselves, in the interest of brevity, to recording projects prominently 
  featuring the member, his name, or some variation thereof (e.g., the Charlie
  Watts Orchestra), and excluding singles and configurations that do not 
  present previously unavailable material. 

  Although considered the first 'solo' effort by a group member, 'Memo From
  Turner', sung by Mick Jagger in the movie 'Performance', released in
  1970, is credited to the 'Rolling Stones' on compilations, although the
  soundtrack, which is still in print, says 'Sung by Mick Jagger'.  No one,
  apparently, was all fired up to collect similar credit for Mick's song in
  the movie "Ned Kelly": "The Wild-eyed Colonial Boy".  A traditional song
  sung by Mick's character, the movie came out on videocassette in 1993,
  if you want to rent it. 

  Next up, in 1972, was a collection of lukewarm 'jams' which took place
  several years earlier in the studio while the Stones were  'waiting for
  our guitar player to show up'.  The effort was called  "Jamming With
  Edward", and it features the talents of Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts, Mick
  Jagger, and non-Stones Nicky Hopkins and Ry Cooder.  It was released on
  the Stones' own label.

  The rest of the recordings should be fairly straightforward. 
  Promo-only versions have an asterisk.

  
  Jagger, Mick       "Don't Look Back"                      sgl     (1978)
                           (billed as a co-lead vocal w/Tosh in some
countries)
                     "State of Shock"                       sgl     (1984)
                           (billed as a co-lead vocal w/Michael Jackson)
                     She's the Boss                         LP      (1985)
                     "Hard Woman"                           sgl     (1985)
                           (German 7", re-recorded version of the LP track)
                     "Lucky In Love"  (4:51*, 4:45, and 3:57* versions)
                     "Lucky In Love"  (extended, and a 6 min. + dub version) 
                     "Dancing in the Street" (duet w/ David Bowie)
                                                            sgl     (1985)
                     "Ruthless People"/"I'm Ringin'"        sgl     (1987)
                     Primitive Cool                         LP      (1987)
                     "Catch as Catch Can"
                          (flipside to "Let's Work")        sgl     (1987)
                     "Memory Motel"
                          (re-recorded for a BBC TV show)   song    (1990)
                     Wandering Spirit                       LP      (1993)
                     "Sweet Thing" 12" single 
                          ("Mick's Extended Version", "Mick's Dub",
                           "Instrumental of Extended Mix", "Extended Remix",
                           "Stripped Down Version", "Instrumental of
                           Stripped Down Version")          12"     (1993)
                     "Sweet Thing" CD5
                          ("Mick's Extended Version", "Mick's Dub",
                           "Extended Remix", "Stripped Down Version", 
                           "Instrumental of Stripped Down Version", "LP Mix")
                                                            CD5     (1993)
                     "Everybody knows About My Good Thing"/"Sweet Thing 
                                                    (Funky Guitar Edit)"
                          (flip selections on "Don't Tear Me Up" Euro-CD5)
                                                            CD5     (1993)
                     

  Richards, Keith    "Run Rudolph Run"/"The Harder They Come"   
                                                            sgl     (1978)
                     Talk is Cheap                          LP      (1988)
                     "Make No Mistake" (single edit)        sgl     (1988)
                     "Make No Mistake" (extended edit)      12"     (1988)
                     Live at the Hollywood Palladium        LP      (1991)
                     Main Offender                          LP      (1992)
                     "Eileen" US CD5 has 4 extra non-LP tracks     
                          ("Gimme Shelter",  "Wicked As it Seems", and
                           "How I Wish" live, plus "Key to the Highway"
                           with Johnnie Johnson)
                                                            CD5     (1993)


  Taylor, Mick       Mick Taylor                            LP      (1979)
                     Stranger in This Town (live)           LP      (1990)
                     Too Hot for Snakes                     LP      (1991)
                                 (Mick Taylor & Carla Olsen)
                     Once in a Blue Moon                    LP
                                 (Gerry Groom, Mick Taylor & Friends)

  Watts, Charlie     Live at the Fullham Town Hall          LP      (1986)
                     (Charlie Watts Orchestra)
                     From One Charlie to Another 
                     (CD plus book "Ode to a high-flying bird")
                                                            BOX     (1991)
                     A Tribute to Charlie Parker
                     (Charlie Watts quintet)                LP      (1992)
                     Warm and Tender                        LP      (1993)

  Wood, Ron      I've Got My Own Album to Do                LP      (1974)
                          (aka "Cancel Everything", on CD)
                 Now Look                                   LP      (1975)
                 "Sweet Sunshine" (flipside to 'Big Bayou')
                                                            sgl     (1976)
                 Mahoney's Last Stand (w/Ronnie Lane)       LP      (1976)
                 Gimme Some Neck                            LP      (1979)
                 1234                                       LP      (1981)
                 "It's Not Easy" (soundtrack to "Wild Life")        
                                                            song    (1984)
                 Live At the Ritz (w/ Bo Diddley)           LP      (1989)
                 Slide On This                              LP      (1992)
                 "Seven Days" (appearance on Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary CD 
                               CBS C2K 53230)               song    (1993)
                 "Somebody Else Might" (3:48  remix)/     
                    "Ain't Rock & Roll" (3:46 remix)        CD5     (1993)
                 Slide On Live (Plugged in and Standin')    LP      (1993)
                 "Stay With Me" (edit from live LP*)        CD5     (1993) 
                 "Somebody Else Might" (5:59  remix)/"Josephine" (remix)
                    (tracks are on US "Stay With Me" CD5)   CD5     (1993)
                                                            

  Wyman, Bill        Monkey Grip                            LP      (1974)
                     Stone Alone                            LP      (1975)
                     Bill Wyman                             LP      (1981)
                     Green Ice (film soundtrack)            LP      (1981)
                     Digital Dreams (video soundtrack)      LP      (1983)
                     Willie and the Poor Boys               LP      (1985)
                         ("superstar" group w/ Charlie Watts, others)
                     Stuff (Japan only)                     LP      (1992)


@Q9. Where can I get bootlegs?

    Stones fans are pretty lucky when it comes to bootlegs.  There are
    hundreds of bootlegs available, many of them are even high quality
    recordings. You can find all sorts of things on bootleg: demos,
    rehearsals, outtakes, concerts and interviews. Unfortunately,
    bootlegs are sort of illegal. 

    A legal loophole discovered by 'Swingin' Pig' records in 1986 created
    an explosion in the "unauthorized recording" market, although it still
    finds challenges in court by the likes of U2.  Many, but not all,
    "unauthorized recordings" are not "bootlegs" but legitimate releases 
    throughout much of Europe.  (You may find "unauthorized recordings" at 
    your own local store clearly marked *IMPORT*.)

    Here are the 4 main ways to acquire bootlegs:

    First, know your local record stores.  Avoid the large chains - they
    generally only carry legitimate items. The small, independently run
    stores are good places to look, but used record stores are your best
    bet.  Get a phone book and visit all the stores listed.  Bigger
    cities usually have better stores. College towns are excellent, too. 
    Go to your nearest metropolis or campus and comb the stores.

    Second, go to record shows and conventions. Even the ones that have
    a "no bootleg" policy can be rewarding, as they often don't enforce
    the rule very well. Check in area newspapers and with local record
    stores for dates and locations. Goldmine magazine prints record 
    show listings, but it may not list all of the shows in your area.

    Third, use mail order places. Record magazines, such as Discoveries, 
    (or "Record Collector", in the  UK) abound with ads offering Stones  
    merchandise.  Of course, there's always an extra risk involved when  
    dealing with  mail-order places,  but most  that advertise in major    
    magazines are reputable.  If you're unsure, start small and work up  
    to larger purchases.  Start with buying one item from a vendor.  If   
    they are  prompt with  that order,  then send a larger one. You can    
    usually find a copy of Discoveries or Record Collector in record or 
    book stores, or get in contact with them directly.                  
                                                                        
    Fourth, trade with friends. This is the cheapest way to build a
    collection of bootlegs. Buy a few and trade tapes to get other
    things.

    Caveat emptor. Bootlegs are often over-priced and low quality. Most
    places don't have a friendly return policy on bootlegs either.


@Q10: Which Stones bootlegs are best? Which will have my favorite song?

  Part two of this document is occupied with nothing but answering 
  this question.  It is a concise history of the band's performing 
  career,  and it includes remarks on availability of outtakes,  
  unreleased studio recordings, and live performances.
        
@Q11: Where can I get online lyrics/chords/tabulature/GIFs?

  If you have access to USENET news, look at the groups                
  rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature and the less official              
  alt.guitar.tab. People will often post chords or tablature to Stones 
  songs on those groups. If you have chords and/or tab for a song, feel
  free to post it to those groups. Tab is probably not appropriate for 
  posting to undercover (although it's been done before). If you are   
  posting tablature, perhaps the best solution is to post it to the    
  newsgroups and just indicate on undercover that you have done so.    
  Offer to mail it to anyone who doesn't have news access.             

  The Rolling Stones are just one act with goodies archived  at
  the FTP site ftp.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4). In the
  pub/music/artists/r/rolling.stones directory JPEGs, lyrics and
  so on can be found. In pub/music/guitar/r/rolling.stones AND
  pub/music/ guitar/r/Rolling.Stones (don't ask) you can find a
  selection of archived chords and tablature.


@Q12. How can I get that Keith sound in the comfort of my own home?

  Two approaches, here:

  If you want to play like Keith, well you *really* need a  Fender
  Telecaster ;-). As well, Keith plays in open G tuning, his own  5
  string version. Take your low E string OFF the guitar and tune it:
  (low to high) GDGBD. You can always tune the low E string to D as well
  if you don't want to remove strings. Keith sums up his guitar playing
  thusly: "5 strings, 3 fingers, and one asshole."

  or:

  barre at the 5th fret (that's a C in open G tuning) and slam a few
  chords... hammer on an Am7 form in fron of the bar.. that's an F... slam
  a few more... repeat progression at the 2nd fret... noodle around on the
  open G.... that'll get you through about 70% of all the solo albums and a
  great deal of Stones stuff as well. A few tidbits... Keith uses talcum
  powder on the neck before he plays...it speeds things up a lot, but if
  you are really picky about strings, you will have to be religous about
  wiping them when you are finished. And of course, never be so dull as to
  actually play chords ON the downbeat... wait about 20 nanoseconds from
  all major timing cues...get that one string about 2 clicks out of tune...
  it's all in the tension, you know. And remember, no effects boxes and
  keep in mind that "it only tightens up"...

@Q13. Wouldn't it be neat if there were a Stones "museum"? 

  Bill Wyman operates a restaurant called "Sticky Fingers" in the 
  well-heeled Kensington section of London. The food is much the 
  same general type of menu as you might find at Hard Rock.  Cost 
  seems OK.  The whole place is of course a shrine to a certain 
  well known band!  Bill has decorated it with framed (etc)
  posters, magazine covers, guitars, gold discs, etc etc. - even
  an especially  good blown up cutting on the right of the door
  as you go out, headed 'Korner Cancels', referring to the
  first real Stones Gig, on 12th July 1962. No trouble finding
  things to read and gaze at while you await your meal.  Most of the
  time Stones music plays.  Location: 1 Phillmore Gardens, London.
        
@Q14. I'm a novice.  Can you recommend the best...
                
  First.... a note on the worth of opinions. They are, as the saying 
  goes, like anal cavities.  Everyone has one and they all stink. They
  are also free, so remember that you get what you pay for.

  Detached, objective judgment of the worth of a particular period  of
  the Rolling Stones' career is a problem all its own.  As Keith
  Richards has said, people tend to be fond of what they were hearing
  the first time they got laid.

a. albums

  If you are thinking of starting out with live albums or greatest-hits
  compilations for an exposure to the Rolling Stones, (or for someone
  else's benefit!), consider:
 
  Their early work (the first eight years), originally on DECCA records 
  (London Records in the USA), is covered by any of the greatest-hits
  compilations that are now being released on CD by ABKCO.   

  "Hot Rocks 1964-1971", the double-CD set, is a near-definitive  collection
  of hit singles. Alternatively, you could pair up the single CDs "High
  Tide and Green Grass (Big Hits)" and "Through the Past  Darkly (Big
  Hits Part 2)" for a collection of equal length with a slightly 
  different impact.  Or, get the 1989 ABKCO  3-CD set called "The London  
  Years", which is full to the rim with just about anything the band put 
  out as a single in these years. It includes everything found 
  on the American versions of the two "Big Hits" compilations, everything 
  on "Hot Rocks" with the exception of three songs, and it has several 
  somewhat rare selections otherwise unavailable reasonably to CD 
  consumers.

  (As of this writing (June 1994), the three compilations mentioned 
  below seem to be off the shelves indefinitely and _superseded_ by the 
  1993 European compilation "Jump Back".  If you can find any of these 
  three compilations on your store shelves, you may consider that they may
  be gone forever soon. No big deal, really, except that "Sucking in the 
  Seventies" has a couple tracks on it unavailable elsewhere on CD.)

  Several compilations cover their post-ABKCO work.  "Made in the Shade"
  was originally released in 1975, and "Rewind (1971-1984)" in 1984. 
  Unfortunately, the CD  releases of these two albums have an overlap of
  four songs.  "Rewind" is the  better value for your CD money. "Sucking
  in the Seventies", from 1981, is of interest largely to collectors. 
  It has three tracks otherwise  unavailable on CD, and single/promo
  edits of 6 Stones numbers released after 1975. A 1993 compilation, 
  entitled "Jump Back", was not released in the States, but has, on a 
  single CD, everything from the "Rewind" CD except for "Hang Fire" and 
  "Heartbreaker", plus "Bitch", "Wild Horses", "Respectable", "Mixed 
  Emotions", and "Rock and a Hard Place"


  The Rolling Stones have released five "live albums", and except for 
  'Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!', (1970), everyone seems to hate something 
  about all of them.  

  Moving on to "regular" releases, many people are strongly persuaded that
  the Rolling  Stones' years with Mick Taylor, and just before, are an
  artistic peak that no one before or since has been able to touch.  To
  acquire that era, you can obtain the  albums released from 1968 to 1972.
  (In order of release: 'Beggar's Banquet', 'Let It Bleed', 'Get Yer
  Ya-Ya's Out' (live), 'Sticky Fingers',  and 'Exile on Main Street'). 

  While an investment in the ABKCO compilations provides a fairly complete 
  overview of the best of the Rolling Stones' first eight years, the band's 
  first three American releases ('Newest Hit Makers', '12 X 5', and 'Now!')
  stand as a powerful documentary of what all the fuss was about. 
  'Aftermath' is also a favorite among many aficianados.

  What one critic has referred to as their 'silver age' occurred  in the
  late 70's-early eighties, after many had given the boys up for dead.  The
  albums "Some Girls", "Emotional Rescue", and "Tattoo You" (released from
  1978 to 1981)  show a veteran outfit churning out top-notch material
  which was a critical and commercial success. Common rock criticism to the
  contrary, this rejuvenation was NOT just the result of the appearance of
  punk rock and the Sex Pistols in the world. After all, the punk
  phenomenon didn't seem to do much for Led Zeppelin or the Who.  

b. movies
  
  The Rolling Stones are the focus of several films that have not made it 
  to the home video market. 

  Their film history is somewhat chaotic.  Part of the reason you 
  can't see them all at your leisure may have as much to do 
  with technical feasibility as court injunctions.

  Any movies that were subsequently released to the home video market are
  listed under part d. of this question, "home videos"

  'Cocksucker Blues' - 

      A concert film cum tour documentary, widespread exhibition of 
      this film has been frustrated by much legal wrangling over the 
      years.  See question #14.

  'Ladies & Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones' - 

      A concert film by which all others surely must be judged. High 
      excitement prevails in this film of two concert performances from 
      their 1972 American tour. 
 
  'The Rolling Stones At the MAX' - 

      A concert film of the 1990 European tour (the 'Urban Jungle'
      tour),  this film was the first 'entertainment' film (i.e., no
      penguins, no beavers) to be filmed with the IMAX process.
      Exhibition of an IMAX film  overwhelms your peripheral vision, and
      displays several stories high, resulting in a realism and
      immediacy unavailable with conventional  filming techniques.

      This requires specially-equipped exhibition theatres, the kind 
      usually found only in planetariums or learning institutions. 
              
      An excellent, highly realistic technology capturing a compelling and 
      exciting performance. Highly recommended. 

c. books
  
  The number of published books about the Rolling Stones can (and does)
  fill up a separate document all its own: Part three of this FAQ list.  
  Still, it is probably of some use to have a 'shortlist', some starting
  point, so here are the titles of five current books we recommend for
  giving you a good  start in learning about the history, influence, and
  greatness of the  Rolling Stones. 

  Please note that these five are not necessarily the best 
  books about the Stones, but they ARE the best of what's currently 
  available.

       'Dance With the Devil' 
       Stanley Booth
           - Delayed for years due to litigation, this book combines 
             equal parts tedious personal confession and juicy Stones-tour 
             gossip. Particularly compelling is the detailed description of 
             a group rehearsal. An insider's account of the Stones' entree
into 
             the big time.

       'Symphony For the Devil' 
       Philip Norman
           - Stops in 1983, but the author delivers a respectful and 
             competent biography.  Bookended by anecdotes about their 
             1981 tour, Norman's analysis of characters in the play 
             known as the Rolling Stones is deep and thoughtful. Revised
             and reissued in 1992.

       'Keith Richards - the Biography' 
       Victor Bockris
           - Little more than a cut-and-paste job of other,
             indiscriminately chosen biographies, this book still has the 
             advantage of recent vintage, and the fact that the author
             can turn out seductive and flowing prose.  Never a dull moment, 
             which is actually difficult to say about lesser Stones'-related 
             works.

       'The Rolling Stones Album' 
       Geoffrey Giuliano
           - Biographically, nothing is very deep - only a thumbnail 
             sketch of the band's history is attempted.  Sometimes, though,
             this is more refreshing than failed attempts at deep analysis.  
             Intended as pornography for the Stones-memorabilia fetishist, 
             this book has great color photographs of records, books, 
             promotional items, and posters. If a picture paints a thousand 
             words, this is a million-word chronicle. 

       'Stone Alone' 
       Bill Wyman (with Ray Coleman)
           - The only book by any band member that was there in the early 
             years, and at the height of the madness, this can (surprisingly)
             get awfully boring.  If, as is said, the devil is in the details,
             then opportunities abound here, as one of Wyman's techniques is
to 
             provide the full text of letters for rather unseemly work-a-day 
             tasks.  Yet, there is no discussion of the band's working 
             techniques, except as they pertain to, for example, how long they
             would spend working on a new song of Wyman's versus one penned by

             Jagger and Richards. Great opportunities missed, but others
taken,
             if you have the interest and patience. NB: only covers up to 
             July, 1969.


  Now these five *are* the best: good luck finding them all!          

       'Stone Alone' - Wyman/Coleman
       'Symphony for the Devil' - Phillip Norman
       
       'An Illustrated Record'
       Roy Carr
           - A beautiful, thoroughly researched, large-format book which 
             presents the Rolling Stones' discography up to 1976. It includes 
             tour history, side-project information, interviews, unreleased 
             album covers, and beautiful reproductions of the original DECCA 
             LP covers. Essential.

        'The Rolling Stones - The First Twenty Years' 
        David Dalton 
           - Dalton has edited several books on the topic, any and all of
             them worthwhile. Another large format book, this collection of 
             essays, reviews, band history, interviews, photographs, and a 
             sessionography, remains overwhelming years after you acquire it.
             Out of print, and highly recommended. 

        'S.T.P.' 
        Robert Greenfield
           The abbreviation of "Stones Touring Party", and the name of a 
           drug, this out-of-print classic is about life on the road
           with the World's you-know-what on their most infamous excursion
           to the United States, in 1972.

d. home videos

  The Stones have several releases on home video.  
  
  Note: ("import") means this is a title that is not generally available 
  in the States except in 'specialty' stores.  Since the rest of the world 
  has a different video standard from the US, these tapes are often made 
  through a format-conversion process, and so may suffer in son et lumiere.

  'The Rolling Stones: Unauthorised Biography'       

      This program consists mostly of *still* *photographs* in a small 
      portion of the screen with a black background.  There is occasional
      motion picture footage (a couple uninteresting complete shots of 
      some airport arrival or departure which would be shown for only 
      two seconds in a judiciously edited documentary.), and the *only* music 
      one hears is about 30 seconds of "Around and Around" in front of that 
      froofy curtain (is this PD stuff YET?).  There are a couple TV news 
      stories (Mick's 1967 bust and the 1976 UK tour), about one minute
      of a Wyman interview, and two minutes of of an interview with Mick 
      done after his solo appearance on Saturday Night Live. (He wouldn't 
      do his Keith imitation without the props.)

  '25 X 5 (The Continuing Adventures of the Rolling Stones)' - 

      This two-hour retrospective of the band's entire career, released in 
      1990, has some exclusive footage and performances from the band's own 
      collection.  It's narrated by interviews with the band, so bring your 
      own grain of salt. Highly recommended.

  'Mick Jagger & the Rolling Stones'            

      A 30-minute episode of something called 'Celebrity Showcase'. At 
      least the outside box is honest: it warns potential customers
      that there is no Rolling Stones music on the entire program. Not
      reviewed.

  'Video Rewind' - 

      A one-hour feature, this early attempt at making a unique offering 
      in the then-infantile home music video market is occasionally 
      successful and funny. Includes rarely seen "official" videos of 
      records released from 1978 to 1983, two television performances
      from the mid-70's, and a cut-and-paste version of "Brown Sugar",
      using footage from several tours.

  'Let's Spend the Night Together' - 

      The home video version of the film of their 1981 US tour, directed 
      by Hal Ashby. Opinion on this film is widely varying.  Some longtime 
      Stones' enthusiasts are disappointed by the performance, while others 
      find it an exciting document of a great tour (current author loves
      it, but he was 18 when the tour took place!).  A video rental costs 
      you three bucks - we're not going to sweat making a bad recommendation. 
  
  'Rolling On' - 

      A 60-minute television documentary, assembled in 1982, but consisting 
      of an annoying 'rock' soundtrack (no Jagger-Richards tunes), and some 
      rarely seen footage from the 'Charlie is My Darling' era (1965). Little 
      to recommend it except when you mute the horrendous audio tracks, and 
      watch Jagger work a crowd in some rarely-seen early live footage. 
      
  'Gimme Shelter' - 

      This home video of the documentary of the 1969 tour and the disastrous 
      free concert that closed it ("Altamont") stands as a classic film 
      separate from any other rock film due to its' too-true human drama 
      and its portrait of the end of an era.  Refurbished in 1992, the newer
      editions of the VHS tape are in Hi-Fi.

  'The Stones in the Park' ("import") - 

      A one-hour Granada TV documentary of the Stones' July 1969 free concert 
      in London's Hyde Park. The stage debut of new guitarist Mick Taylor,
this
      show has snippets of some classic performances.

  'One plus one (Sympathy for the Devil)' -     

      A pretentious bore by Jean-Luc Goddard, this film has splices of the 
      Stones building and recording the classic track 'Sympathy For the Devil'
      in the studio. Seeing the Stones 'behind-the-scenes' at work is so rare,
      this is a valuable document. No. No. Yes. No. No. No.

  'Charlie is My Darling' ("import")  

      A one-hour documentary of their 1965 tour of Ireland. Some stunningly 
      funny documentary footage of Keith and Mick, drunk, at a piano and 
      singing. Also, a nice portrait of the frenzy and excitement that 
      accompanied their early road work, including a truly frightening mob 
      scene at a show that got out of hand while the band was playing.  
    
  'That was Rock/The TAMI Show' - 

      The Stones perform five songs in twelve minutes on the "Teenage 
      Music International" show, filmed in Los Angeles in 1965. Other 
      guests on the show(s) were Chuck Berry, James Brown, Lesley Gore, 
      Marvin Gaye, the Supremes, and Ike and Tina Turner. Worth it to 
      see a young Mick and Diana Ross singing together at the finale. 

e. fanzines

*   Basement News 
    c/o Dieter Hoffman 
    Lausitzer Strasse 13 
    D-63110 Rodgau  
  
    (Germany) 

    $20/3 issues (air mail)

    Published by Dieter Hoffman, the author of the Schwarzbuch (Black
    Book) bootleg bible and Weissbuch (White Book) listing of legit
    releases. Provides detailed information on current band activity,
    bootleg reviews, and the scuttlebutt on new Stones or Stones related
    record or CD releases.  

*   Beggars Banquet
    P O Box 6152
    New York, NY   10128
    (USA)

    Monthly - 20 US Dollars in the US, 25 US Dollars for overseas

    Originally a 'pure' fanzine written by Bill German, this survived
    being the semi-official Fan Club Magazine in the Mid-80's. Rather
    tame and uncritical, and perhaps too much 'Bill German and the Stones
    (usually Ronnie).  Wouldn't be without it.

*   Le Club Des Stones
    BP535
    75666 Paris Cedex 14
    France

    Actually the name of the French fan club for the Rolling
    Stones, they'll issue four A4 magazines per year to you 
    (in French, natch) for 100F.


*   Tumbling Dice
    9 Collingwood Close
    Westage-on-Sea
    Kent   CT8 8JD
    (UK)

    Quarterly

    9 UK Pounds in UK, 12 UK Pounds in Europe, 18 UK pounds in rest

    Only been going since early 1991 and still finding its feet.  Each
    issue much improved on the previous, and distribution problems
    slowly disappearing.  No band access. 

        
@Q15. What is/who are

a. "Nanker Phelge"?

  The author of several early compositions ("Stoned",  "The Underassistant 
  West Coast Promotion Man"), "Nanker Phelge" is actually a pseudonym used 
  for group compositions. "Nanker" was the nick name for a rather unpleasant 
  facial expression band members used to make, and "Phelge" the surname of 
  an early roommate of Keith, Mick, and Brian's whose personal hygiene left 
  something to be desired.

b. "The Glimmer Twins"?

  The production team known to the world as "The Glimmer Twins" consists
  of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, so dubbed because of a chance encounter 
  with an elderly woman on vacation, who thought she recognized one of the
  Stones, but only had a "glimmer" of the real identity of her find.

c. "Rock and Roll Circus"?

  Mere days after the release of 'Beggar's Banquet' in 1968, the band 
  pulled together a 'circus': a show consisting of real circus performers, and

  some progressive rock acts of the day.  Jethro Tull, The Who and Eric
  Clapton were in attendance, as were lions, trapeze artists, and Yoko Ono.
 
  The idea was to produce a unique television show, but the footage was
  eventually shelved, due to what the Stones felt was a sub-standard
  performance. It has not been seen to this day, except for a brief
  excerpt in the home video entitled '25 x 5', and the Who's performance
  of 'A Quick One', seen in their own film/career documentary, 'The Kids
  Are Alright'.  It has been spotted  on bootleg video,  but only, as
  the saying goes, in an 'umpteenth-generation' presentation.  (For 
  five years and counting, the officially unofficial rumour on official 
  release of a long-form home video version has been "any day now".  
  The rights are owned by Allen Klein.  If this can produce money, 
  rest assured you will see it at some point.) Several 
  bootlegs of the audio portion exist.  It was Brian's last performance
  with the band.  
 

  The two main musical highlights were a 'supergroup' consisting of 
  Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Keith Richards, and Mitch Mitchell (of the 
  Jimi Hendrix Experience), and a performance of several songs 
  by the Stones themselves, including 'Route 66', 'Confessin' the
  Blues', 'Parachute Woman', 'Jumpin' Jack Flash', 'Sympathy for the
  Devil', 'No Expectations', 'You Can't Always Get What You Want', and
  'Salt of the Earth'.

d. "Altamont"?

  The band planned a large, free concert in San Francisco to cap off 
  their highly successful 1969 tour of the United States, similar to a
  successful event they had done in London's Hyde Park several months
  earlier.  Between permit denials, greed, and a last-minute change of
  venue, the event devolved from a potentially powerful West Coast
  Woodstock to a poorly-planned mess.  A bad choice of security
  (American biker gang the "Hell's Angels") contributed to a  day-long
  sideshow of violence and "bad vibes". 

  By the time the Stones came on in the evening, tempers were short.
  The dramatic stabbing of a spectator by one of the Hell's Angels
  during the Stones' set was captured on film in the documentary 
  "Gimme Shelter", available now on home video.
  
e. "Cocksucker Blues"? 

  It is the title of both a notorious slow blues song performed by 
  Jagger which has been frequently bootlegged, and an unrelated film
  project by  Robert Frank which was a documentary of the Stones' 1972
  American tour.

  The song tells the woeful tale of a "lonesome schoolboy" who has come 
  to the big city (London) but does not know where to find all the 
  amenities a young man needs.  Presented as a single by Jagger to 
  fulfill a contractual obligation to DECCA records, the label declined
  to release it. It did appear very briefly as an 'official' release
  as part of a German boxed set in 1984.  The box was quickly pulled, and 
  re-released without the offending tune.

  The film is rarely seen, as a unique legal settlement has required 
  that its' director, Robert Frank, accompany each and every showing of
  the film.  More bark than bite.  Drug-fueled orgies and
  all kinds of human degradations were rumoured to be captured on film. 
  This was more a reflection of what people thought went on on a Stones'
  tour than what actually happened.  Rather tame, it has some tit, some
  drunken revelry, some drug use by band members, and some footage of
  the greatest rock and roll band in the world in action. 


@Q16. Gossip

a. How many times have they been arrested?

  The band's longtime acquaintance with law enforcement started with an 
  infamous 'pissing' incident in March of 1965 in which Bill Wyman, who
  needed to use the rest facilities at a car fuel stop, was not only
  refused admittance to the chamber, but told to promptly  vacate the
  premises.  Mick Jagger and Brian Jones joined Bill in pissing  against
  a wall, and the Stones' image as 'bad boys' was firmly established. In
  a remarkable  show of solidarity and opportunism, which was not to
  be repeated, all five band members showed up at court, several
  weeks later...

  Unfortunately, being pop-stars in the "swingin' sixties", they were
  easy targets for aggressive  narcotics enforcement officers.  Human
  nature and law enforcement being  what they are, these officers
  descended on the weakest and most vulnerable  of the lot, Brian Jones,
  with some regularity and viciousness, although by the end of the
  Seventies, Mick and Keith also found themselves "busted" several
  times, culminating in the most serious case, Keith's 1977 arrest for
  heroin possession in Canada, which threatened the continued existence
  of the band.

  The Eighties, the decade of the "War on Drugs", produced its own
  comical efforts at putting Stones Behind Bars, but these were so
  poorly executed, they failed almost upon impact. Ron Wood, several
  years younger than everyone else in the band, got his own taste in
  1980.  Although charges were dropped, Mr. Wood was said to have problems
  with unspecified drugs in the early eighties, and also to have taken
  care of them with a "Betty Ford"-type cure while the Stones were
  languishing unused mid-decade.

  1965 - "Pissing" incident at a gas/petrol station. Five-pound fines
         for Mick, Brian, and Bill are appealed.  
  1967 - The "Redlands" bust - allegations of carpeted girls and Mars bars.
         Keith's conviction on "allowing his premises" overturned on
         appeal; Mick's pep-pill possession successfully appealed - Court 
         found that he had been more severely sentenced than an "anonymous 
         young man".
  1967 - Brian busted same day as the "Redlands" case court appearance.
  1968 - Brian busted for cannabis. Found guilty and fined.
  1969 - Hashish possession: Mick and Marianne Faithfull; Marianne
         acquitted, Mick is fined.
  1972 - Jagger and Richards held on assault of a photographer; delay means
         the evening's show in Boston starts after midnight. 
  1972 - Keith's French pied-a-terre is raided; Coke, Hashish, heroin found.
  1973 - Keith present when his British residence is raided. Drugs and guns. 
  1975 - Keith gets in trouble for carrying a knife in Fordyce, Arkansas
  1977 - Keith fined 750 pounds + costs for coke possession.
  1977 - Keith arrested for heroin possession in Canada.  Eventually
         "sentenced" to play a free concert and take his cure in New Jersey. 
  1980 - Ron and Jo Howard hang out with the wrong crowd in St. Maarten, 
         and spend several days in jail for possession of cocaine.
  1987 - Jerry Hall gets into some trouble in Barbados when the local
         customs people decide a 20-lb. package of marijuana is hers.
         The "Kangaroo Customs" officers screw their own case, and Jerry
         is found 'not guilty'.

b. How many times have they been married?                            

  Both Charlie Watts and Keith Richards are on their first marriages.  
  Charlie married in 1964, Keith 19 years later. Brian Jones was never
  married. Mick Jagger and Ron Wood are both on their second marriages, 
  to women they met in 1977. Ex-Stone Bill Wyman was the only member
  married  when he joined the group, and he entered his third legal
  marriage  shortly after leaving the group in 1993.

c. Will the band break up?

  At some point, we believe.

d. Are they going to tour again?

  The band has announced plans to take their "Voodoo Lounge" tour, kicking
  off August 1, 1994 in the United States, to Japan, South America, the 
  Far East, and (in 1995) Europe.  

e. Is this the last time, really? 

  They were first asked this in 1966. 

f. How old ARE they?

  Birthdays are as follows:

      Jagger       July 26, 1943         
      Jones        Feb. 28, 1942    (dismissed June 8, 1969; died July 3,
1969)
      Richards     Dec. 18, 1943 
      Stewart      July 18, 1938    (died December 12, 1985)
      Taylor       Jan. 17, 1948    (quit December,    1974)
      Watts        Jun. 02, 1941         
      Wood         Jun. 01, 1947         
      Wyman        Oct. 24, 1936    (quit 1993)     
                                 
@Q17. Myths & legends:

a. Did Keith really get his blood changed?

  It was a widely circulated rumour that to cure himself of an addiction
  to heroin, Keith Richards flew to the Swiss chalet of an exclusive 
  physician who had a method for replacing all of a patient's nasty 
  addicted blood with good clean blood. 
 
  Great gossip. Bad science.

  While it has been claimed in print by at least one biographer,  this
  author was also Keith's dealer for several years. It is widely 
  considered  to be little more than another colorful urban legend.

b. Do they worship satan?

  Among the phenomena that have become known to us since the formation 
  of the Rolling Stones are: CDs, wireless amps, home video, and 
  Serious Rock Criticism.  Early Serious Rock Critics, trying in vain 
  to capture in prose the mystique, wonder, beauty, arrogance, and power
  of the  Rolling Stones, would often resort to demonic imagery.  It did
  not help  matters that the band released songs like "Sympathy for the
  Devil",  or that Jagger performed in a swirling cape bathed in red
  light.  Blame this one on the old "four blind men describing an
  elephant" syndrome.
                
  Professional demonist and man-about-town Kenneth Anger once asserted
  that Anita Pallenberg  (Keith's paramour in the Stones' supposed
  'demonic' period) was a 'witch'.  But that's Kenneth Anger.

c. Is Paul dead?
       
  He is rumoured to have shown up at a Rolling Stones concert in 
  New York City in 1978 to catch the festivities. Other than that, 
  no one seems to care.



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              The Rolling Stones--Live and Unreleased Audio
              (Version 1.31 of *this* document)

    This is an introduction and guide to the live concert and studio
    outtake recordings of the Rolling Stones.  This information is for
    educational purposes only.

    The Rolling Stones have been around for 30 years and have released
    many albums.  However, for some fans, they haven't released enough.
    This is a guide for those fans who want to know what the Stones were
    doing on their many unrecorded tours, or are curious to hear the
    various working stages of a classic song.  The only way to hear
    this is from unauthorized recordings.

    Unauthorized recordings may be either live concerts or studio
    outtakes.  Live concerts may be recorded in several ways:  In the
    audience using a hand held tape recorder, by a sound man from the
    soundboard, or from a radio broadcast.  Audience recordings will
    generally sound the worst, but modern technology makes it possible
    to have very good audience recordings.  Studio outtakes are
    generally of good quality as the recording is usually professionally
    done.  In all cases, sound quality will deteriorate as analog copies
    are made from one generation to the next.

    Here is a partial list of unauthorized recordings by the Rolling
    Stones.  Some of these are easy to find, others are out of print.
    Most but not all are available on CD.  Listings are by location,
    date, length, quality, and source. Quality ratings are from 1 to 10
    and are REALISTIC, with 1 being unlistenable and 10 being perfect
    release quality. 'm' indicates mono, 's' stereo, and 'es' electronic
    stereo.  Also included are typical sets for live concerts.

    This list is not complete.  I have omitted many obscure LPs, CDs,
    and tape only performances.  Many of the best recorded performances
    have been released by as many as 10 different companies; I have
    listed only the best or one of the best versions.


Part 1:  The Early Years with Brian Jones

    Most of the recordings from this period are either from media
    appearances such as the BBC and TV shows, or studio outtakes.
    Although the band toured constantly, there are few unauthorized
    concert recordings.  This was the time of Beatlemania, and screaming
    girls and often riots at concerts.  With the extremely primitive PA
    systems of the era, the Stones were frequently drowned out by the
    screaming audience.

Set lists:

    Second English tour, Feb./March 1964:  Talking About
    You, Roadrunner, Roll Over Beethoven, You Better Move On, Beautiful
    Delilah, It's Alright, Not Fade Away, I Wanna Be Your Man.

    September/October 1964 UK tour:  I Just Wanna Make Love to You,
    Walking the Dog, If You Need Me, It's Alright, Around and Around,
    It's All Over Now.

    March 1965 UK tour:  Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, Pain in My
    Heart, Down the Road Apiece, Time is on My Side, I'm Moving On, It's
    Alright, Little Red Rooster, Route 66, The Last Time, Everybody
    Needs Somebody to Love.

    September/October 1965 UK tour:  Mercy Mercy, Cry to Me, The Last
    Time, Oh Baby We Got a Good Thing Going, I'm Moving On, She Said
    Yeah, Everybody Needs Somebody to Love, That's How Strong My Love
    is, Talkin' 'bout You.

    Paris March 28, 1966:  The Last Time, Mercy Mercy, She Said Yeah,
    Play with Fire, Not Fade Away, That's How Strong My Love is, I'm
    Moving On, The Spider and the Fly, Time is on My Side, 19th Nervous
    Breakdown, Around and Around, Get Off of My Cloud, It's Alright,
    Satisfaction.

    Paris April 11, 1967:  Paint It Black, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Lady
    Jane, Get Off of My Cloud, Yesterday's Papers, Under My Thumb, Ruby
    Tuesday, Let's Spend the Night Together, Going Home, Satisfaction.

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:


BBC            '63-'65; 52 min;   9.5 m&s; "Get Satisfaction if You Want"
BBC TV & ITV   '63-'65; 50 min;   8.0 m;   "Crackin' Up"
Ed Sullivan TV '64-'67;           7.5 m;   "Conquer America"
Outtakes       '63-'65; 30 min;   9.0 s;   "Bright Lights Big City"
Outtakes       '64-'73; 70 min    8.0 s;   "Mad Shadows"
Unreleased stereo mixes of '65-'67 hits;
                        20 min;   7.5 s;   "Dartford Renegades"

Paris          4/18/65; 40 min;   7.0 m;   "L'Olympia"
Honolulu       7/28/66; 30 min;   7.5 m;   "In Action"

Part 1a:  Brian is phased out

    The Stones did their last tour with Brian in the spring of 1967.
    They were unable to tour after that due to Brian's legal and health
    problems.  The Rock and Roll Circus was to be a way around this,
    bringing the performance to the audience instead of the other way
    around.

"Sympathy..." rehearsals 5-6/68;  20 min;  7.0 m;  "Angie"
Outtakes                '68-'72;  70 min;  8.0 s;  "On the Rocks"
Outtakes                '68-'72;  85 min;  9.5 s;  "Trident Mixes"
Outtakes/ diff. mixes   '68-'73; 100 min; 10.0 s;  "Time Trip"
Rock & Roll Circus     12/12/68;  18 min;  8.0 m;  "R&R Circus"


Part 2:  The middle period with Mick Taylor

    After the forced exit of Brian, the Stones hired Mick Taylor as new
    lead guitarist.  His excellent playing made this lineup arguably the
    best for live performances.

    His first gig with them, Hyde Park, became a tribute to Brian.  It
    took place only 2 days after his death and featured several songs
    which would not be played live again.

Hyde Park, 7/5/69; 85 min; 8.0 m; "Stones in the Park"/others

    The first actual tour with Mick Taylor was the fall/winter 1969 US
    Tour.  "Let It Bleed" was released at the end of the tour.  Toward
    the end of the tour the band did some recordings at Muscle Shoals,
    Alabama (partly documented on "Time Trip" above).  New York, Muscle
    Shoals, and Altamont are documented in the movie "Gimme Shelter."
    The official live album from this tour is the excellent "Get Yer
    Ya-Yas Out."  Of possible interest to trivia freaks is the fact that
    Love in Vain was actually recorded in Baltimore, not NYC as claimed
    on the sleeve.

    Typical set for 1969 US tour:  Jumping Jack Flash, Carol, Sympathy
    for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Prodigal Son (not at
    all shows), You Gotta Move (not at all shows), Under My Thumb,
    Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little Queenie, Satisfaction, Honky
    Tonk Woman, Street Fighting Man.  Played infrequently:  I'm Free,
    Gimme Shelter.  Played only at Altamont:  The Sun is Shining (by
    Jimmy Reed), Brown Sugar.

    The 1969 US tour established a pattern which would continue until
    1982:  US tour every 3 years, with a European tour the following
    year.  There was no 1979 European tour, but the New Barbarians
    toured that year.

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:

Oakland     11/9/69 1st show;  70 min;  8.0 m;  "Bring It Back Aliver"
Oakland     11/9/69 2nd show;  70 min;  8.0 m;  "Liver Than You'll Ever Be"/
                                                 many others
San Diego   11/10/69;          45 min;  8.0 m;  "Stoneaged"
Outtakes '69-'74, studio&live; 30 min;  8.5 s;  "A Shot of Salvation"
Altamont Speedway 12/6/69;     82 min;  5.5 es; "Altamont"

    In early 1970, the first Stones bootleg record came out, called
    "Liver Than You'll Ever Be."  It was the second bootleg of a major
    rock band, after Dylan's "Great White Wonder."  At that time, being
    bootlegged was almost prestigious, a far cry from the way things are
    today.  "Liver Than" was even reviewed in "Rolling Stone" magazine
    in the February 7, 1970 issue.

    There are no really excellent recordings from the next tour, Europe
    1970.  However, as of late 1993, more of these recordings are
    becoming available, including the first ever soundboard tape.
    Unfortunately, they are mostly on hard to get Japanese CDs.
    Musically, this tour was similar to the 1969 US tour except that a
    horn section was used for the first time.

    Typical set for 1970 European tour:  Jumping Jack Flash, Roll Over
    Beethoven, Sympathy for the Devil, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain,
    Prodigal Son, Dead Flowers, Midnight Rambler, Live with Me, Little
    Queenie, Let it Rock, Brown Sugar, Honky Tonk Woman, Street Fighting
    Man.  Played infrequently:  Gimme Shelter.

Hamburg 9/14/70; 67 min; 6.5 m; "Let it Rock"
Berlin  9/16/70; 45 min; 7.0 m; "CS Roll Over Berlin"
Paris   9/23/70; 70 min; 5.5 m; "Paris 1970" (FM w/commentary)
Paris   9/24/70; 60 min; 7.5 m; "Paris 1970" (soundboard)
Essen  10/07/70; 50 min; 7.0 m; "European Tour 1970"

    Before their contract with Decca expired, The Stones were required
    to record one more song.  Fed up with Decca, they recored Cocksucker
    Blues.  Its unauthorized releases are frequently paired with a
    studio outtake of Brown Sugar featuring Eric Clapton on third
    guitar.

"CS Blues"/"Brown Sugar" w/Clapton; 10 min; 10.0 s; "CS Blues"

    The band did a farewell tour of England in 1971 before leaving as
    tax exiles.  "Sticky Fingers" was released after this tour.  Let
    It Rock from Leeds 3/13 has been legally released.

    Typical set for 1971 English tour:  Jumping Jack Flash, Live with
    Me, Dead Flowers, Stray Cat Blues, Love in Vain, Midnight Rambler,
    Bitch, Honky Tonk Woman, Satisfaction, Little Queenie, Brown Sugar,
    Street Fighting Man.  Played infrequently:  I Got the Blues, Let It
    Rock (encore).

Leeds, UK      3/13/71; 60 min; 10.0 m; "Get Your Leeds Lungs Out"
Marquee Club   3/26/71; 40 min;  8.0 m; "Marquee 71 + Sticky Out" (sic)

    "Exile on Main Street" was recorded in the basement of Keith's house
    in France.  Outtakes are available.

"Exile" outtakes; 35 min; 8.0 s; "Tropical Disease"

Rehearsing for their 1972 US tour, the Stones were filmed by the BBC.

Montreux rehearsals 5/21/72; 25 min; 9.0 m; "Time Trip"

    The 1972 US tour in support of "Exile on Main Street" was sucessful
    both musically and financially.  Not one but two movies were made,
    the unreleased behind-the-scenes "Cocksucker Blues" and the concert
    documentary "Ladies and Gentlemen the Rolling Stones."  There was to
    be a double LP live album but it remains unreleased due to Decca
    withholding the rights to several songs.

    Typical set for 1972 US tour:  Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off, Gimme
    Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia, You
    Can't Always Get What You Want, All Down the Line, Midnight Rambler,
    Bye Bye Johnny, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street Fighting
    Man.  Played infrequently:  Uptight/Satisfaction (encore), Loving
    Cup, Torn and Frayed, Ventilator Blues, Honky Tonk Woman (encore),
    Don't Lie to Me.

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:

Dallas   6/23/72 reh.;           135 min;  7.5 s; "Stones Touring Party"
"Ladies & Gentlemen" soundtrack;  80 min;  8.5 s; "Dragon Slayers"
Charlotte, NC 7/6/72;             70 min;  6.5 s; "Back to the Roots"
Philadelphia + Fort Worth;       170 min;  8.5 s; "Philadelphia Special"
                                                   (1 & 2)/others
MSG, NYC 7/26/72;                 45 min;  8.5 s; "Welcome to New York"

    From this point on, most concerts would be recorded by someone in
    the audience.

The next tour was to Australia with a few stops along the way.

    Typical set for winter 1973 tour:  Brown Sugar, Bitch, Rocks Off,
    Gimme Shelter, Happy, Tumbling Dice, Love in Vain, Sweet Virginia,
    You Can't Always Get What You Want, Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the
    Line, Midnight Rambler, Little Queenie, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack
    Flash, Street Fighting Man.  Played infrequently:  Route 66, It's
    All Over Now, No expectations, Live with Me.

LA Forum       1/18/73;    80 min;   6.5 m; "Winter Tour 1973"
Honolulu 1/21/73 1st show; 75 min;   7.0 s; "Honolulu"
Melbourne 2/17/73;         73 min;   7.0 m; "Temperature Rising"
Perth, Australia 2/24/73;  50 min;   9.0 s; "Rocks Off"
Sydney 2/26/73;            65 min;   8.5 s; "Happy Birthday Nicky"

To promote "Goats Head Soup" the Stones recorded 4 songs for Don
Kirshner's TV show.

Don Kirshner TV 7/17/73; 20 min; 8.5 m; "Angie"

For the fall of 1973 there was a European tour.  The King Biscuit
Flour Hour broadcast from Brussels and London is widely circulated.

    Typical set for 1973 European tour:  Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter,
    Happy, Tumbling Dice, Star Star (deleted from KBFH broadcast),
    Angie, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Dancing with Mr. D,
    Heartbreaker (first half of tour only), Midnight Rambler, Honky Tonk
    Woman, All Down the Line, Rip This Joint, Jumping Jack Flash, Street
    Fighting Man.  Played infrequently:  Bitch, 100 Years Ago, Silver
    Train, Sweet Virginia.

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:

Luxemburg radio '73 (various);     30 min; 9.5 m; "A Shot of Salvation"
Bern 9/26/73 2nd show;   75 min; 6.5 s; "Bern-1973"
Brussels 10/17/73 + London 9/9/73; 75 min; 9.5 s; "Brussels Affair"/
                                                   others

    To promote "It's Only Rock and Roll," the band again appeared on
    Don Kirshner's TV show.

Don Kirshner TV 7/74; 15 min; video


Part 3:  The Ron Wood era:

    Just before the Stones were to go into the studio and record "Black
    and Blue," Mick Taylor abruptly quit.  Three different guest
    guitarists ended up on the album, and the band also jammed with Jeff
    Beck, but when they toured the US in 1975, Ronnie Wood was the
    "guest" lead guitarist.

    The 1975 and 1976 tours featured much longer sets than had been
    played in the past.  Billy Preston also performed two songs at each
    show.

    Typical set for 1975 US tour:  Honky Tonk Woman, All Down the Line,
    If You Can't Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Star Star, Gimme Shelter,
    Ain't Too Proud to Beg, You Gotta Move, You Can't Always Get What
    You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice, It's Only Rock and Roll,
    Heartbreaker, Fingerprint File, Angie, Wild Horses, That's Life,
    Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston), Brown Sugar, Midnight
    Rambler, Rip This Joint, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash.

    Played infrequently:  Rocks Off, Sure the One You Need, 
    Star Star, Gimme Shelter, Luxury, Dance Little Sister, Cherry Oh 
    Baby, Lady Jane (a capella by Mick), Sympathy for the Devil 
    (encore at about half the shows).

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:


Outtakes '73-'79;        45 min; 9.5 s;  "Lonely at the Top"
Studio reh. 1-4/75;      70 min; 7.5 s;  "Black and Blue Sessions"
Buffalo 6/15/75;         65 min; 7.5 s;  "Hot As Hell"
NYC 6/27/75;             65 min; 7.5 s;  "Welcome Back to NY"/others
LA Forum 7/11/75;       160 min; 7.5 m;  "Rockin' at the Forum"
LA Forum 7/13/75;        90 min; 8.0 s;  "I Never Talked to Chuck Berry"
Cow Palace, SF 7/15/75; 120 min; 7.0 s;  "It's Only Rock & Roll"
Detroit 7/28/75;         90 min; 7.5 m;  "Rock and Roll Goes on the Road
                                                      Again"

    The 1976 European tour was musically similar to the 1975 US tour,
    except that songs from "Black and Blue" were played.

    Typical set for 1976 European tour:  Honky Tonk Woman, If You Can't
    Rock Me/ Get Off of My Cloud, Hand of Fate, Hey Negrita, Ain't Too
    Proud to Beg, Fool to Cry, Hot Stuff, Star Star, Angie, You Gotta
    Move, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Happy, Tumbling Dice,
    Nothing from Nothing, Outta Space (both sung by Billy Preston),
    Midnight Rambler, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Midnight
    Rambler, Street Fighting Man, Jumping Jack Flash.  Played
    infrequently:  Rip This Joint, Cherry Oh Baby, Sympathy for the
    Devil.  Played at Knebworth only:  Satisfaction, Around and Around,
    Little Red Rooster, Stray Cat Blues, Let's Spend the Night Together,
    Dead Flowers, Route 66, Wild Horses, Honky Tonk Woman, Country Honk
    theme.

Other recordings are available, but these are the best/most common:

Frankfurt 4/29/76;    45 min;  7.5 s;       "Frankfurt 1976"
Paris 6/6/76;        100 min;  8.5 m;       "Paris Aux Printemps"
Paris 6/7/76;        125 min;  7.0 m/8.5 s; "Vive La France","Paris Par Exc."
Lyon 6/9/76;          71 min;  8.0 s;       "Backstage Limited"
Knebworth 8/21/76;    90 min;  8.5 s;       "Hot August Night"

    The Stones came to Toronto in early 1977 to record live at the El
    Mocambo Club.  Keith was arrested there for heroin possession, but
    recording took place and became side 3 of "Love You Live."

Toronto 3/4 & 3/5/77; 40 min; 8.5 s; "El Mocambo '77"

The next studio album was "Some Girls."  Outtakes are available.

Outtakes late '77; 100 min; 9.0 s; "Paris Outtakes" I & II

    For the 1978 US tour, the band played most of the album and dropped
    many older songs.  Billy Preston was sacked; keyboardists Ian
    Stewart and Ian McLagan were featured prominently.  At the end of
    the tour, the Stones appeared on Saturday Night Live.

    Typical set for 1978 US tour:  Let It Rock, All Down the Line, Honky
    Tonk Woman, Star Star, When the Whip Comes Down, Lies, Miss You,
    Beast of Burden, Just My Imagination, Shattered, Respectable, Far
    Away Eyes, Love in Vain, Tumbling Dice, Happy, Sweet Little Sixteen,
    Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash.  Played infrequently: Hound Dog,
    Satisfaction, Street Fighting Man.

Woodstock '78 reh. + outtakes;  60 min;  8.5 s; "'78 Tour Reh."
Passaic, NJ 6/14/78;            90 min;  9.0 s; "Garden State 78"/others
US radio '78 (various);         90 min;  9.5 s; "A Summer Romance"/others
LA 8/78 outtakes;               93 min;  8.5 s; "The Harder They Come"/
                                                 others

(There are different versions of the radio broadcasts; for example
there, are two different versions of "Shattered," from different
cities.  This tour was heavily bootlegged; about 75% of the tour
dates are available on vinyl.)

    Keith's sentence for heroin possession was light: to do a benefit
    concert for the Canadian National Institute for the Blind.  At the
    start of the New Barbarians tour in Toronto, the Stones made a
    surprise appearance.

Toronto 4/22/79 w/Barbarians; 90 min; 8.0 s; "Blind Date"

"Emotional Rescue" outtakes are available.

"Emotional Rescue" outtakes; 67 min; quality excellent minus;
"Emotional Rescue Demos"

    The next tour was in the US, 1981, for "Tattoo You."  There was an
    official live album, "Still Life," and movie, "Let's Spend the Night
    Together."

    Typical set for 1981 US tour:  Under My Thumb, When the Whip Comes
    Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors, Black
    Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go Go,
    Let Me Go, Time is on My Side, Beast of Burden, Waiting on a Friend,
    Let It Bleed, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Little T&A,
    Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold, All Down the Line, Hang Fire, Star
    Star, Miss You, Start Me Up, Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar, Jumping
    Jack Flash, Street Fighting Man (a few shows), and/or Satisfaction
    (most shows).  Played infrequently:  Tops, Down the Road Apiece,
    Mona, Star Star.

USA '81 (various, FM);    90 min;  9.5 s; "Time is on Our Side"/others
Seattle 10/15/81;        125 min;  8.5 s; "...More Than Ever"
Chicago 11/22/81          35 min;  (Ex);  "Sweet Home Chicago"
     w/Muddy Waters;
Kansas City 12/1?/81;    145 min;  8.0 s; "Together At Last" (partly
                                            w/Mick Taylor on third guitar)
Hampton, VA 12/18/81;    140 min; 10.0 s; "Hampton '81"/many others

(The Hampton and various FM broadcasts are avaliable on many
different LPs and CDs.  As with the '78 broadcasts, different
versions of some songs are available.  About two thirds of the tour
dates are available on vinyl. Hampton was a pay-per-view cable
special, and many bootleg videos circulate.)

The 1982 European tour was musically similar to the 1981 tour.

    Typical set for 1982 European tour:  Under My Thumb, When the Whip
    Comes Down, Let's Spend the Night Together, Shattered, Neighbors,
    Black Limousine, Just My Imagination, 20 Flight Rock, Going to a Go
    Go, Chantilly Lace (first part of tour), Let Me Go, Time is on My
    Side, Beast of Burden, Let It Bleed (first part of tour), You Can't
    Always Get What You Want, Little T&A, Tumbling Dice, She's So Cold,
    Hang Fire, Miss You, Honky Tonk Woman, Brown Sugar, Start Me Up,
    Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction.  Played infrequently:  Angie.

Gothenburg, Sweden 6/19/82; 130 min; 8.0 m;  "One More Time"
Gothenburg, Sweden 6/20/82;  85 min; 8.0 s;  "Drinking and Dancing"

(About two thirds of the tour dates are available on vinyl.)

Due to tensions within the band, there was no touring again until 1989.

Outtakes are available for "Dirty Work."

"Dirty Work" outtakes 7-11/85; 69 min; (Ex-); "Dirtiest Work"

    After much speculation if there would ever be another tour, the
    Stones finally toured the US in 1989 in support of "Steel Wheels."
    For the first time, most of the live material was not from the new
    album.  Each concert was a look back on their long career, and they
    performed songs that had never been attempted live.  The band also
    used a much larger cast of supporting musicians than in the past.
    The Stones "toured" Japan in February by playing in Tokyo for about
    10 days.

    Typical set for 1989 Steel Wheels US tour:  Start Me Up, Bitch, Sad
    Sad Sad, Undercover of the Night, Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice,
    Miss You, Ruby Tuesday, Play with Fire, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed
    Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman, Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get
    What You Want, Little Red Rooster (not at all shows), Before They
    Make Me Run or Can't Be Seen, Happy, Paint It Black, 2000 Light
    Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil, Gimme Shelter, It's Only
    Rock and Roll, Brown Sugar, Satisfaction, Jumping Jack Flash.
    Played infrequently:  Shattered, Salt of the Earth, Dead Flowers,
    One Hit to the Body, Angie, Almost Hear You Sigh, Terrifying.

Toronto 9/3/89;         95? min; (Ex);   "Live in Toronto"
Dallas 11/11/89;        145 min; 8.5 m;  "Texas Rangers"
Atlanta 11/21/89;       120 min; (Ex);   "Back in Business"
LA 10/19/89;            ??? min; (Ex);   "Mixed Emotions"
Atlantic City 12/19/89; 150 min; 10.0 s; many CDs (frequently video)
Tokyo 2/26/90;          140 min; 10.0 s; "The Steel Wheels Performances"

    The 1990 Urban Jungle Tour was musically similar to the Steel Wheels
    tour.  Typical set for Urban Jungle Tour:  Start Me Up, Sad Sad Sad,
    Harlem Shuffle, Tumbling Dice, Miss You, Almost Hear You Sigh, Ruby
    Tuesday, Rock and a Hard Place, Mixed Emotions, Honky Tonk Woman,
    Midnight Rambler, You Can't Always Get What You Want, Can't Be Seen
    (3/4 of shows), or Before They Make Me Run (1/4 of shows), Happy,
    Paint It Black, 2000 Light Years from Home, Sympathy for the Devil,
    Street Fighting Man, Gimme Shelter, It's Only Rock and Roll, Brown
    Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash, Satisfaction.  Played infrequently:
    Bitch, Angie, Dead Flowers, Factory Girl, Blinded by Love,
    Terrifying, Little Red Rooster, I Just Wanna Make Love to You.

Basel, Switz. 6/27/90;   145 min;  7.5 s; "Basel '90"
London 7/7/90;           135 min; 10.0 s; "Seventh of July"


The author acknowledges that every living member and ex member of the
band has done some sort of solo project.  Keith's solo tours of 1988
and 1992-93 have been heavily bootlegged, and Mick's tour of 1988 is
also fairly well represented.  However, cataloging those releases is
beyond the scope of this guide.  Plus, I don't collect that material.


Notes on collecting CDs:

    As far as I know, European copyright laws have now changed so that
    CDs which used to be unauthorized but legal in some countries are
    now illegal in all countries.  Apparently Phil Collins won a lawsuit
    in Germany on October 20, 1993, which means that European artists
    such as the Stones can prevent the manufacture and sale of
    unauthorized CDs, at least in Europe.  Of course there are plenty of
    "underground" companies to fill the vacuum.  Apparently formerly
    legal companies such as The Swingin' Pig, Oh Boy, Living Legend,
    Great Dane, Bulldog, WPOCM, The Genuine Pig, and others are now out
    of business.

    The best of these was the Swingin' Pig.  Most of their CDs were
    mastered from tapes, unlike some companies which used old records,
    and they generally used the best available tape for a particular
    show.  On the downside, they sometimes overdid the noise
    reduction, which made the music sound bassy and compressed.

    Apparently Australia is now the way Europe used to be:  Unauthorized
    recordings may be released legally, provided royalties are paid.
    I am unclear on the details of this.

    Other companies don't bother with details like royalties; these
    bootlegs are illegal in all countries.  One of the best of these
    labels is Scorpio, which seems to go by several different names.
    Unlike most labels, they concentrate on studio outtakes, and have
    actually put out "new" material.  They still aren't above
    dubbing some tracks off old records here and there, however.

    The Vigatone label has produced only a few Stones CDs but they are
    all excellent, from tapes.  The Chameleon or "Chamelion" label is
    also excellent.

    "Terappin" or Terrapin label CDs are very hard to come by but are
    mostly rare material in decent to good quality.

    Japanese CDs on labels such as Digger Productions, Hot Lips Records,
    Golden Hits Records, Alley Cat, and Idol Mind are generally hard to
    come by in the US but often have rare material. The quality of these
    varies widely.  As of late 1993 onward, the Japanese have been the
    only labels putting out previously unreleased material, even material
    which was not in tape trading circles.

_Bibliography_
Basement News fanzines.  Rodgau, Germany:  Dieter Hoffmann

Hoffmann, Dieter.  Das Rolling Stones Schwarzbuch (Black Book).
Vaihingen, Germany:  New Media Verlag, 1987.

Hoffmann, Dieter.  Rolling Stones--Das Weissbuch (White Book).
Winsen, Germany:  New Media Records, 1991.

Live! Music Review, December 1993.

No Expectations fanzine. No. 9, January, 1992.  Lerdala, Sweden:
Mats Jarl

Stember, Wilfried.  The Rolling Stones Collector's File 2.
Dortmund, Germany:  Stember, 1984.

Zentgraf, Nico.  Collector's Delight or Collector's Disease?
Berlin, Germany:  Zentgraf, 1992.


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              The Rolling Stones--The Bibliography From Hell 


      Prepared and maintained by: Stephen D. Carter
                                  (S.D.Carter@Sussex.ac.uk)   or
                                  (stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk)


         The Rolling Stones, unlike the Beatles, seem to have had few
         even half-decent authors or publishers produce books about
         them.  The majority of the books on this list are, frankly,
         not too good.  A few (Stone Alone, etc) are imperative!

         Read this list, and the books, with low expectations!

         Part one of the FAQ list has recommendations on the five best
         books (in print and out).

                      -------/////00000\\\\\------

         This list has been constructed with help from many people, to
         whom many thanks.

         Among them are : D.H., Tony Rzepela, Bruce Dumes, and
         several others who, if they email me will be duly credited!
         Whoops, lost my earlier list!

         I am happy to receive email comments about errors in this
         list, and information about books that are not on it.

         Like the Stones, I'm a Brit, so are most of the ISBN's.             

         Citations list author, title, year, and finally, ISBN.

               ===========//////\\\\\\==========

ed Bill Buford                          
 Granta                                                      
 84 0140075658                               

         Granta is a quarterly book/magazine of 'New English Writing'
         Issue 12 consists largely of an extensive extract from      
         Stanley Booth's "True Adventures of the Rolling Stones"     
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Johnny Dean                          
 The Rolling Stones Book                                     
 64                                          
         Date unclear, but precedes the Rolling Stones Monthly from  
         the same publishers.  Nice photos - a real period piece.    
         Even has a bit about 'The Official Rolling Stones Fan Club' 
         93/97 Regent St.  Now, whatever became of that!?            
                                                                     

ed Johnny Dean                          
 Record Collector                                              
                                             
         Monthly magazine from the original publishers of both the   
         Beatles and Rolling Stones Monthly Magazines.  The issues   
         that have special features on the Stones are worth getting. 
                                                                     
         Issues : 37,45,49,61,74,79,87,93,101,104,111,113,117,124,   
         125,130,136,142.                                            
                                                                     
         43/45 St Mary's Road, Ealing, London, W5 5RQ.  UK           


ed Nicholas Drake                       
 The Sixties : A Decade in Vogue                             
 88 0187130726                               

         Reproductions of some of the best of the always high quality
         illustrations from Vogue in the 60's.                       
                                                                     
         Inevitably the Stones and their circle appear.              
                                                                     
         Nice book - buy if remaindered.                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Pete Goodman                         
 Our Own Story by The Rolling Stones                         
 64                                          
         Wonderful period piece that asserts it is 'as we told it to 
         Pete Goodman'.                                              
                                                                     
         Written for mass consumption at the start of the band's     
         career.                                                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Nigel Grant                          
 A Pixerama Foldbook of the Rolling Stones                   
 64                                          
         A very early period piece - 12 small photo's of the band    
         in a concertina fold out style.  The text is superbly dated,
         and very wrong in places.  "The lads got their name for the 
         group from a Chuck Berry song 'The Rolling Stones'".        
                                                                     
         Buy it if you ever see it.                                  
                                                                     

ed Mick Jagger                          
 The Rolling Stones Monthly Book                             
 64                                          
         Short lived (30 issues) monthly 'Official Rolling Stones    
         Book edited by the Stones for their Fans' from the same     
         stable as the still running Beatles Monthly.                
                                                                     
         Despite the fact that it is mostly the product of the       
         imagination of a press/publicity crew it is worth getting   
         if you ever (unlikely) see it.  Re-issue long overdue.      
                                                                     

ed Joyce Robins                         
 The Sixties : The Style : The Sounds : The Stars            
 84 0862731895                               

         A 64 page rush through the music of the turbulent 60's.     
         Produced by Marks & Spencer, so quality is good.  Nothing   
         profound, only a bit on the Stones.                         
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Robert Love                          
 The Best of Rolling Stone                                    
 93 0863697690                               

         A compilation of a selection of the best articles from the  
         magazine.                                                   
                                                                     
         Robert Greenfield gets an article about the Stones.  Worth  
         getting for this, and all of the rest!                      
                                                                     

ed Rolling Stone                        
 The Rolling Stones                                          
 76                                          
         A compilation of the main features on the Stones from       
         Rolling Stone covering the first interview in 1968 through  
         to 1975.                                                    
                                                                     
         Excellent.                                                  
                                                                     
ed Jack Scott, Nick Logan               
 Greatest Hits : Very Best of NME                            
 74 1850371473                               
         A selection of the best interviews from NME.  Good interview
         with Mick - Roy Carr interviewer.                           
                                                                     
                                                                     
(Unknown)                               
 The Rolling Stones : 24 Posters                             
 83 0862830605                               
         24 nicely printed pictures (not posters) from the 81 Tour.  
         No text.  Marginal value.                                   
                                                                     
(Unknown)                               
 The Rolling Stones Complete                
 81 0860017611                              
 
         Collection of words and music to all original Stones        
         compositions released from 1963 to 1980.  Separate          
         complete lyrics section, and a UK discography to 1980.      
                                                                     
         Over 70 photo's, up to and including 1978                   
                                                                     
                                                                     
Felix Aeppli                            
 Heart of Stone : The Definitive Rolling Stones Discography  
 85 0876501927                               

         Well indexed and and as thoroughly researched as a book     
         without 'official' backing could be.  Although it is        
         extensive and thorough, sources close to the band dismiss   
         this book as dreadfully inaccurate.                         
                                                                     
         An obvious need exists for an authorized version.           
                                                                     
                                                                     
Mandy Aftel                             
 Death of a Rolling Stone : The Brian Jones Story            
 82 0283989459                               

         Reasonably good biography of the life and death of Brian.   
         Good photo's, and research are spoiled by the author's      
         uncritical approach to Brian.                               
                                                                     
                                                                     
Christopher Andersen                    
 Jagger Unauthorised                                         
 93 0671712098                               

         Only go for this one if you are a terminal                  
         completist.  Not the best book in the booklist              
                                                                     
                                                                     
Robert Armstrong                        
 Rolling Stones                                               
 83 089813109X                               
 
        This 31 page children's book provides an overview of the    
         Stones' history, their early chart success, the death of    
         Brian Jones, the big tours in the early 80's, Tattoo You,   
         and so on.                                                  
                                                                     
         Mentions drugs, but not Mars bars                           
                                                                     
         SP                                                          


Atalanta Press                          
 The Rolling Stones : Poster Book                            
 89 1870049225                               

         Large format, well printed book of 20 pullout posters.      
         Pretty.  For complete-ists only.                            
                                                                     
                                                                     
Stephen Barnard                         
 The Rolling Stones : Street Fighting Years                  
 93 1851708626                               

         Excellent book.  Despite being so big that it is hernia     
         inducing.  Superb photo selection, reproduced with great    
         clarity.  The text (not matching the photo's) should be     
         read as a series of essays (with flaws).  Photo's arranged  
         (seemingly) randomly - but some great ones!                 
                                                                     
         Grab this book!                                             
                                                                     

Victor Bockris                          
 Keith Richards : The Biography                              
 92 0091743974                               

         In a field where few serious biographies exist, any gallant 
         attempt should be welcomed. But..                           
                                                                     
         This book suffers from poor editing, from the (bizarre IMHO)
         view that much of the success of the Stones stems from the  
         homo-erotic relationship of Jagger/Richards/Jones.  Later   
         parts read as slick cuttings jobs.  I'm glad my copy was a  
         half price remainder!                                       

Massimo Bonanno                         
 The Rolling Stones Chronicle : The first thirty years       
 90 0859651355                               

         Chronologically arranged list of hi-lights and low spots    
         from the first 30 years.                                    
                                                                     
         Nice photo's, but the number of entries ensures a generally 
         shallow approach.  The early years (62/3) are better than   
         most books - but still flawed.                              
                                                                     
                                                                     
Stanley Booth                           
 Dance With The Devil                                        
 84 0394534883                               

         US version of 'True Adventures'                             

                                                                     
Stanley Booth                           
 The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones                   
 85 0434081000                               
         In 1969 Stanley Booth was granted the rights to put together
         a book about the Stones.  16 years later it came out.  An   
         entertaining read, full of racy tales and the like - both   
         from the Stone and from the author.                         
                                                                     
         How much is true?  Who cares!                               
                                                                     
         (Extract first published in Granta)                         

Marie Cahill                            
 The Rolling Stones - A Pictoral History                      
 90 1856270351                               
         Extremely well written, not deep, but complete.  Almost     
         entirely accurate, carefully and lovingly composed to       
         accommodate the format as best it can.  First class         
         captions.                                                   
                                                                     
         Honest effort to gain an interesting captivating mix of     
         stock images  and the unfamiliar                            
                                                                     
Roy Carr                                
 The Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Record                  
 76 0517526417 
                              
         Well researched and illustrated retrospective.  Some good   
         stuff from the very early years (62/63).                    
                                                                     
                                                                    
Terry Carty                             
 Tumbling Dice                                               
                                             
         1991 UK based attempt to get a fanzine off the ground. After
         7 issues (as of Sept '93) it is too early to judge.         
                                                                     
         Enthusiastic and deserving of support.                      
                                                                     
         Tumbling Dice, 9 Collingwood Close, Westgate on Sea,        
         Kent CT8 8JD  UK                                            
                                                                     

Barbara Charone                         
 Keith Richards                                              
 79 0708816584                               

         Quite a well researched biography about one half of the     
         Glimmer Twins.  Too uncritical to be of real value.  Access 
         to Keith assured some unusual photo's.                      
                                                                     
         Updated 1982 version in US.                                 
                                                                     
                                                                     
Ray Connolly                            
 Stardust Memories                                            
 83 0907516300                               
         A compilation of interviews previously published in the     
         Evening Standard.  Very good scene setting for The Sixties. 
                                                                     
         Features Mick, Charlie.... and Bianca                       
                                                                     
                                                                     
Michael Cooper & Terry Southern         
 The Early Stones : Legendary photographs of a band in the making
 93 0436201372                               

         A book of Michael Cooper's photo's, with a foreword (and    
         comments by Keef) could hardly fail.  This one nearly does. 
                                                                     
         Illegible text, poor printing of ace photo's, and even some 
         mistakes (P157=nonsense).                                   
                                                                     
         However, this is an essential book!                         
                                                                     

David Dalton                            
 The Rolling Stones : The First Twenty Years                 
 81 0500272611                               

         Well researched, well produced and illustrated retrospective
         on the Stones.                                              
                                                                     
         Time for an update - the First Thirty Years?                
                                                                     
                                                                     
David Dalton & Mick Farren              
 Rolling Stones in their own Words                           
 80 0860015416                               

         One of an extensive series of similar volumes.  Well        
         presented collection of quotes - sorted by topic.  Nice     
         photo's.  Being quotes it steers clear of the risk of       
         bad research!                                               
                                                                     
         (Reissued with some updates in 1985)                        

                                                                     
ed David Dalton                         
 The Rolling Stones : The Greatest Rock'n'Roll Band in the World
 75 0352300922                               

         Quite an early and well written account of the band.  It    
         does not attempt to be a 'boigraphy, but is collection of   
         essays/accounts on various aspects.  As such it succeeds.   
                                                                     
         (Reissued with updates in 1979)                             
                                                                     

David Dalton                            
 The Rolling Stones - An Unauthorized Biography in Words, ... 
 72                                          
         This is Dalton's first book on The Stones, which he has     
         revised several times.  It is loaded with outstanding       
         pictures and the text is good.                              
                                                                     
         Difficult to find.                                          
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     

Mary Laverne Dimmick                    
 The Rolling Stones - An Annotated Bibliography               
 79 0822933845                               
         Just what it says, she adds her knowledgable comments about 
         the books (etc) listed.  Much less complete than            
         "Yesterday's Papers" but more user friendly.                
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     
         Univ of Pittsburgh Press                                    

                                                                     
Tim Dowley                              
 The Rolling Stones                                          
 83 0882547348                               

         Dreadful.                                                   

                                                                     
Martin Elliott                          
 The Rolling Stones Complete Recording Sessions              
 90 0713721189                               

         Any book claiming to be 'complete' that is produced without 
         access to either the Stones' own sources,  or even Alan     
         Klein's is doomed.  A brave attempt, but flawed.            
                                                                     
         Simply demonstrates the need for an authorized version.     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Richard Elman                           
 Uptight With The Stones                                    
 73                                          
         Short book which documents a small part of their 1972 US    
         Tour.  Elman is a good writer but doesn't know that much    
         about The Stones.  Extremely difficult to find.             
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
Nicholas Fitzgerald                     
 Brian Jones : The Inside Story of the original Rolling Stone 
 85 0399130616                               

         Personal memoire of Swingin' Sixties hanger on to Brian's   
         entourage. Vivid portraits of whirlwind escapades in        
         Paris, London etc.  Fascinating stuff about life on the     
         "inside".                                                   
                                                                     
         Despite failings, valuable                                  
                                                                     
         AR        
                                                  
Chet Flippo                             
 It's Only Rock and Roll : My On The Road Adventures with the  
 85 0312038518                               

         Long account of Chet's years on the road thru 75, 78 and 79 
         with the Stones.  Worthwhile thoughts on the Stones - at    
         times thought-provoking, at times funny, as well as accurate
         reportage of life in the big league.                        
                                                                     
         Enjoyable and recommended.  Strangely never available in the
         UK.                                                         

                                                                     
Pete Frame                              
 Rock Family Trees                                           
 79 0860014142                               

         This book, an essential part of any book collection, charts 
         the evolution of various groups.                            
                                                                     
         The Stones are shown linked to the Pretty Things (by Dick   
         Taylor) and tenuously to The Kinks.                         
                                                                     
                                                                     
Pete Frame                              
 Rock Gazetteer of Great Britain                             
 89 0950540263                               

         Essential reading for any serious student of UK rock music, 
         which of course dominates the world.  Lots of short (often  
         witty) paragraphs about rock's famous places the length and 
         breadth of the land.                                        
                                                                     
         Could do with an index though!                              
                                                                     
                                                                     
David Fricke & Robert Sandall           
 Rolling Stones : Images of the World Tour 1989-90           
 90 1852830816                               

         This 'official' photographic record of the tour is very     
         disappointing.  The unique access by chosen photographers   
         could have and should have produced a better (in every way) 
         book.                                                       
                                                                     
         The photos should all have been dated and the location      
         noted.                                                      
                                                                     

Tony Gale & Andy Neil                   
 The Rolling Stones : Olympic Recording Sessions June 1968    
 94 187388413X                               

         A slim book of photo's of..um... the 1968 One Plus One      
         sessions.                                                   
                                                                     
         Overpriced, but still nice as the photos seem to capture    
         an atmosphere.                                              
                                                                     
                                                                     
Bill German                             
 Beggars Banquet                                             
                                             
         A semi-official monthly newsletter about the Stones.  Bill  
         German has good access to Ronnie.  Worth subscribing.       
                                                                     
         Beggars Banquet, PO Box 6152, New York, NY 10128            
                                                                     
                                                                     
Geoffrey Giuliano & Cris Eborn          
 Not Fade Away : The Rolling Stones Collection               
 92 1850282161                               

         An abolutely SUPERB book full of SUPERB illustrations of    
         what is (I guess) the second Best Stones Collection - Chris 
         Eborn's                                                     

         Wonderful printing, well composed, incredible value.        
         Let down rather by the text - apart from the captions.      
                                                                     
                                                                     
John Glatt                              
 Rage & Roll : Bill Graham & The Selling of Rock              
 93 1559722053                               

         Bill Graham was allegedly caught pocketing a *lot* of       
         money from Stones' till in '81.                             
                                                                     
         Based in part on interview with Wyman this book explores    
         the tale and its ramifications.                             
                                                                     
         AP                                                          


Robert Greenfield                       
 S T P : A Journey through America with the Rolling Stones   
 74 0841503230                               

         Very famous book about the 1972 US Tour.  Well written by   
         an 'insider'.  How did those boys survive!?                 
                                                                     
                                                                     
Gary Herman                             
 Rock'n'Roll Babylon                                         
 82 0859650413                               
         Compulsive reading about the seamier side of the life (and  
         death) the Rock Greats.                                     
                                                                     
         Not surprisingly the Stones pop up regularly.               
                                                                     
                                                                     
Tim Hewat                               
 Rolling Stones File                                          
 67                                          
         Apparently this is in part the proceedings against          
         The Glimmer Twins from the West Sussex Quarter Sessions     
         June 27/28/29 1967.                                         
                                                                     
         (Thanks to JH)                                              
                                                                     

Dezo Hoffman                            
 The Rolling Stones                                          
 ?? 009158311x                               

         Dezo was a staff photographer with Record Mirror and his    
         first assignment to cover the Stones is re-printed  here    
         - dated May 1963.                                           
                                                                     
         An excellent book of first class photos from 1963 to the    
         early 70's.                                                 
                                                                     
                                                                     
Dieter Hoffman                          
 Rolling Stones - Das Weissbuch                              
 91 3980248940                               

         Totally amazing detailed catalogue of Stones (legal)        
         releases.  UK, US, Germany, 7", LP, CD.  You name it, it's  
         there!  Includes song index.  Expensive (99 DM) but well    
         worth it for the serious collectors.  (See also Das         
         Schwartzbuch by ther same author)                           
                                                                     
                                                                     
Dieter Hoffman                          
 Rolling Stones - Das Schwarzbuch                            
 87 3926886005                               

         The Black Book - bootleg discography with pictures, quality 
         ratings etc.  About 600 are listed.  Much, much better than 
         Hot Wacks.                                                  
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     

A E Hotchner                            
 Blown Away : The Rolling Stones and the Death of the Sixties
 90 0671693166                               

         Less than readable account that draws upon interviews with  
         everyone except the Stones.  Interview extract pasted       
         together out of context results in a book with little value.
                                                                     
         One nice photo.                                             

                                                                     
William Hughes                          
 Performance                                                 
 70                                          
         Book of the film.  Almost.                                  
                                                                     
                                                                     
Marsha Hunt                             
 Real Life                                                    
 86 0701130261                               

         Marsha describes life growing up in USA and then her move   
         to London, run ins with Mayall, Mick Taylor, Elton John,    
         being a cebrity, and then Jagger.                           
                                                                     
         Many dropped names, not huge Stones content, but picture    
         of Jagger better than most on offer.                        
                                                                     
         SP                                                          


Laura Jackson                           
 Golden Stone : The Untold Life & Death of Brian Jones        
 94 185685067X                               

         Hardly untold. Yet another telling of a familiar tale.     
                                                                     
         The promised revelation of the identity of Jones' (alleged) 
         killer comes 200 pages into the 228 pages of text.          
                                                                     
         Only for completeists.                                      
                                                                     
                                                                     
Tony Jasper                             
 The Rolling Stones                                          
 76 0706405498                               
         Cuttings job.  Nicely printed selection of photo's.         
                                                                     
                                                                     
Phillip Kamin & Peter Goddard           
 The Rolling Stones : The Last Tour                            
 82 0825301181                               

         Longish text for little reward. Often pretentious.          
         Excellent photo's, although the captions are sometimes      
         incorrect.                                                  
                                                                     
                                                                     
James Karnbach & Philip Kamin           
 The Rolling Stones in Europe                                  
    082531052                                

         Written by long time Stones authority James Karnbach,       
         exciting coverage of shows, many pages of photo's, and      
         finally an interview with Ronnie.                           
                                                                     
         Plus a breakdown of the performance history of each song    
         in the '82 set list.                                        
                                                                     
                                                                     
The Kicker Twins                        
 The Stones Bible                                             
 92                                          
         Privately published (photocopied) in Germany, this lists    
         concerts by city and compares bootleg LP/CD to tapes for    
         completeness.  Only 200 copies printed.                     
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
Volker Kluge                            
 The Rolling Stones - At the Rarest          
 81                                          
         Bootleg discography, mostly obsolete due to the passage     
         of time, and Das Schwarzbuch.                               
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
June Knight                             
 On the Scene : The Rolling Stones                           
 64                                          
         Only 36 pages, but packed with good quality early photos.   
         Interestingly  Brian follows Mick in the pecking order of   
         of the group.....                                           
                                                                     
                                                                     
Annie Leibovitz & Terry Southern        
 The Rolling Stones on Tour                                  
 78 0906196078                               

         Beautifully produced and presented book of great photo's    
         of the Tour of The Americas '75.                            
                                                                     
         A talented photographer with privileged access to the tour  
         has captured some great images.  See page 68.               

                                                                     
Philip Luce                             
 The Stones                                                  
 70 0093051905                               

         An early attempt at a half-serious account                  
         of the rise and rise of the Stones.  A historic curio.      
                                                                     
         Wonderful cover shot of Charlie                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
Sutherland Lyall                        
 Rock Sets : The Astonishing Art of Rock Concert Design      
 92 0500276978                               

         This book details the Stage Set designs of Fisher Park - the
         architects who designed the 'Steel Wheels' and 'Urban Jungle
         stage sets.                                                 

         Very high quality photo's and reproduction.  Excellent.     
                                                                     
                                                                    
Jessica MacPhail                        
 Yesterday's Papers : The Rolling Stones in Print 1963-84    
 86 0876502095                               

         No original text, but a book of lists  of books, newspaper  
         articles, magazines, and file reviews. Ambitious but flawed 
         by the fact that the earliest reference is May 1963 - almost
         a year after the first one.  Dreadful typeface makes this   
         book very hard to use.                                      
                                                                     
         An honorable attempt at an impossible task.  A must for all 
         serious students.                                           

Gered Mankowitz                         
 Satisfaction : The Rolling Stones photos of Gered Mankowitz 
 84 0283991178                               

         First class book of photo's taken by one of the inner circle
         of favoured photographers from the early years.             
                                                                     
J Marks                                 
 Mick Jagger : The Singer Not the Song                       
 73 0349122881                               

         A less than useful bio of Mick.  Everone has a different    
         perspective on the Band, this is J Marks'.                  
                                                                     
                                                                     
Linda Martin                            
 The Rolling Stones in Concert                               
 82 0617376954                               

         Text tells you nothing new, but the photos are good - often 
         with stunning clarity.                                      
                                                                     
         Suffers, like many books, from badly captioned photos.      

                                                                     
Linda McCartney                         
 Sixties:  Portrait of an Era                                
 92 1855100894                               

         Linda got her Big Career Break by taking photo's of the     
         Stones in New York in 1966.  Nice photo's, nicely printed   
         and presented.  Overpriced book.                            
                                                                     
         Mind you, it has some superb photo's, including The Best    
         Photo Ever of Jimi.                                         

                                                                     
Miles                                   
 Rolling Stones : An Illustrated Discography                 
 80 0860017621                               

         An ESSENTIAL book for all Stones fans.  An excellent listing
         of the band's records up to 1980 (and thus in need of a new 
         edition).                                                   
                                                                     
         Few books on this list are mandatory, this is one!          
                                                                     
                                                                     
Miles                                   
 The Rolling Stones : A visual Documentary                    
 94 0711934606                               

         Even if it is a pretty obvious cash-in on the Voodoo Lounge 
         tour hype, it is an excellent book of well printed and      
         presented photo's and 'diary' entries.                      
                                                                     
         What I'd expect from Miles.                                 
                                                                     
         Buy it.                                                     
                                                                     

Philip Norman                           
 The Life and Good Times of the Rolling Stones               
 89 0712630384                               

         A large format photo book, short on text.  Given that Norman
         has written first class books about both the Stones and the 
         Fabs, one has to wonder what the point is.                  
                                                                     
         Only buy of remaindered and very cheap.                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Philip Norman                           
 The Stones                                                  
 84 0552124877                               

         Pete Townshend writes "It's a good thing that a writer of   
         Philip Norman's class has finally produced a book on The    
         Stones".                                                    
                                                                     
         Agreed.  Even if this is flawed, and I don't know if it     
         really is, too many of the Stones books are very lightweight
         and it is a pleasant change to have one that is actually    
         serious and thorough.                                       


Andrew Oldham                           
 The Rolling Stones : the Singles Collection                 
 89                                          
         The re-issued boxed set of Singles (CD et.al.) has an OK    
         book of notes.  Useful notes, more useful for all of the    
         words of the songs and the notes about the singles.         
                                                                     
                                                                     
Robert Palmer                           
 The Rolling Stones                                          
 83 0722166567                               

         A well researched and presented book from the publishers    
         of Rolling Stone.  Light on text, heavy on pictures.        
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Dr Andreas Papadakis                 
 Architectural Design : New Architecture                     
 90 1854900293                               

         A special edition of Architectural Design concentrated on   
         'New Architecuture' and included an article by Mark Fisher  
         on his designs for the 1989 Steel Wheels stage - plus some  
         stunning colour photos.                                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Jeremy Pascall
 The Rolling Stones
 77 0702600156                               

         (No information - source Melvyl System)                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Guy Peellaert, Nik Cohn                 
 Rock Dreams : Under the Boardwalk                           
 74 0330240080                               

         A book of fantasy drawings of The Great Stars in likely and 
         unlikely situations.  The Stones are (rather strangely)     
         illustrated.                                                
                                                                     
         It is said that Jagger was so impressed that this was the   
         reason why Peellaert was commissioned to do the cover for   
         It's Only Rock'n'Roll.                                      
                                                                     

John Platt                              
 London's Rock Routes                                        
 85 0947795707                               

         Quite a nice round up of famous rock locations around the   
         capital.  A good chapter on the Stones.                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Greg Quill                              
 The Rolling Stones : 25th Anniversary Tour                    
 89 0921458029                               

         Some neat pictures, but full of factual errors.             
                                                                     
                                                                     
Mike Randolph                           
 The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus                    
 91 057116210X                               

         A book of very good photo's from the Legendary show.  Sadly 
         and avoidably flawed by presenting many of the photos as    
         double page spreads, and then needing to break the book to  
         see them.                                                   
                                                                     
         It would be nice to see the video/film!                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
The Rolling Stones                      
 Concert Programmes                                            
                                             
         Any history of any group can only be helped by a study of   
         their Concert Programmes.  As the years have passed these   
         have progressed from small quick throw-away jobs, to lavish 
         well produced (and expensive) souvenirs.                    
                                                                     
         Yet another way for the bands to make money.                
                                                                     
                                                                     
ed Brian Roylance (& Bill Wyman)        
 Blinds & Shutters : Michael Cooper                          
 90 0904351378                               

         A distressingly beautiful book, full of upsettingly unique  
         photos at a heart-stopping price.                           
                                                                     
         Cooper was the 'court' photographer to the Beatles (he did  
         the Sgt. Pepper cover photo) and the Stones (Satanic        
         Majesties) and others.  As such these photos are unique.    
                                                                     
         Wonderful.                                                  


Ethan Russell                           
 Dear Mr Fantasy                                              
 85                                          
         Many good photo's of the Stones and other bands,            
         personalities, etc.  Especially good photo's from 1969      
         when he was the official tour photographer.                 
                                                                     
         (Thanks to D H)                                             
                                                                     

Tony Sanchez                            
 Up and Down with the Rolling Stones : The Inside Story      
 79 0688085156                               

         'Spanish' Tony's account of several years wheeling and      
         dealing with the Stones (mainly Keith).  An interesting read
         because even if 99% is grossly inflated it gives a flavour  
         of what life was like with the band during the late 60's to 
         early 70's.                                                 
                                                                     
         Spanish Tony is immortalised on the (censored) Beggars      
         Banquet cover (below Parachute Woman).                      


Christopher Sandford                    
 Mick Jagger : Primitive Cool                                
 94 0575057491                               
                                                                     
         (Review Under Construction)                                 
                                                                     
                                                                     
Anthony Scaduto                         
 Mick Jagger                                                 
 74                                          
         Lengthy and detailed look at how Jagger was perceived       
         in 1974.                                                    
                                                                     
                                                                     
Carey Schofield                         
 Jagger                                                      
 83 0708826156                               

         A disappointingly lightweight bio of Mick.                  
                                                                     
                                                                     
Davin Seay                              
 Mick Jagger : The Story Behind The Rolling Stones            
 93 1559721928                               
         (Original reviewer's notes abbreviated by Carter to...)     
                                                                     
         "There is some stunningly inept writing here, apart from    
         subject matter.  Makes the head spin."                      
                                                                     
         For completeists only                                       
                                                                     
                                                                     
Wilfred Stember                         
 The Rolling Stones : Collectors File 2                      
 84                                          
 
        A stirling attempt by a German fan to list all shows,       
         albums, recordings etc.                                     
                                                                     
         Yet another book to compare with other similar and worry and
         wonder about the differences.                               
                                                                     
         Come on Bill, do the decent thing and publish YOUR database!
                                                                     

George Tremlett                         
 Rock Gold : The Music Millionares                            
 90 0044405480                               

         Although in parts a bit like an economics text book, it     
         is a surprisingly readable account of where (and how) the   
         MONEY goes.                                                 
                                                                     
         Could have done with a harder editor - but worthwhile       
         nevertheless                                                

                                                                     
George Tremlett                         
 The Rolling Stones Story                                    
 74 0860071286                               

         Tory Ex-GLC Councillor does a mean job with a cuttings      
         file.                                                       
                                                                     
                                                                     
Andre Verdet and Bill Wyman             
 Chagall's World                                             
 84 0385193246                               

         When a book of an interview with Chagall was to be published
         who better than to do the photo's than (then) near neighbour
         Bill Wyman.                                                 
                                                                     
         Nice book.                                                  
                                                                     
                                                                     
Sue Weiner & Lisa Howard                
 The Rolling Stones : A-Z                                    
 83 0711905495                               

         Encyclopedia format of a paragraph about people, songs and  
         the like to do with the band.  Helpful in settling disputes.
                                                                     
         3000 entries ensures brevity of each entry.                 
                                                                     
                                                                     
Timothy White                           
 Rock Lives : Profiles & Interviews                           
 90 0805013962                               

         Interviews  & profiles of everyone from Robert Johnson      
         to Prince, taking in Keith on the way.                      
                                                                     
         "There's really only one song in the whole world and        
         probably Adam and Eve hummed it to each other...."          
                                                                     
         (Thanks to SP)                                              
 
                                                                    
Ron Wood (with Bill German)             
 The Works                                                   
 88 0006373542                               

         Ronnie's short autobiography.  Also has a paragraph or two  
         about his influences.                                       
                                                                     
         Lightweight, but the sketches are nice.                     
                                                                     
                                                                     
Bill Wyman                              
 Stone Alone : The Story of a Rock'n'Roll Band               
 90 0670828947                               

         Bill's own account of the band's story up to the 1969 Hyde  
         Park concert.  A surprisingly absorbing read, despite the   
         great detail.  Although Ray Coleman did edit the book, it   
         was written by The Man himself and was reportedly cut down  
         from 300,000 words.                                         
                                                                     
         Essential.  How long will we have to wait for Volume 2 (in  
         preparation).                                               




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                                Part Four

              The Rolling Stones--The Lazy Man's Discography

              Version 1.08
              August 1994


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This discography 


1) lists the Rolling Stones' original long-play and EP releases issued 
   in the UK or United States, sorted by release date.   

2) discusses the Rolling Stones on Compact Disc (search forward
   for the text "CDs, CDs, CDs").

3) lists songs that were officially sanctioned and available at 
   some point, but never made it to any EP or LP in the States or UK 
   (search forward for "Flipsides and Oddities"). 


Concerning Part one: 

  Those DECCA LP releases of the 60s which were unique to the UK, 
  in either title or configuration, are underlined in Eastward-pointing 
  arrows: ">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"

  Those London LP releases which were unique to the US, in either 
  title or configuration, use Westward-pointing arrows: "<<<<<<<<<<<<<"

  From "Their Satanic Majesties' Request" on, the British and American 
  releases of previously unreleased material on LPs were congruent, with 
  the exception of "Metamorphosis" (1975). 

  We have declined to catalogue out-of-print compilations that began 
  appearing in Europe in the seventies.  While they filled important 
  gaps in European collections at the time they were released, the fact 
  is that with only a few exceptions, any track that was on those records 
  is now available somewhere on Compact Disc, small variations of 
  individual song versions notwithstanding. 

  (
  Exceptions: 
  * 2 tracks (plus an intro) from the 1965 UK EP "Got LIVE if you want it!"   
  * 6 tracks released on "Rest of the Best", a 1984 German box set
  )

  We have also declined, at this point in time, to catalogue those small 
  variations on the same track between different LP releases. While some 
  variations are indeed significant, and some versions still have not 
  appeared on a legitimate Compact Disc in any country, we feel the following 
  document, correct if not comprehensive, is still a useful resource. 
                                             
  Compilations stay on the list as long as they either stay in print, or 
  offer something found on no other EP or LP. 


This discography/FAQ-section is maintained by Anthony J. Rzepela 
                                              (rzepela@cvi.hahnemann.edu).

Helps, hints, corrections and suggestions were graciously provided by:

     Jens Backlund            (jbacklund@finabo.abo.fi)
     Stephen D. Carter        (stevedc@central.sussex.ac.uk)
     Mark C. Walters          (mark@pluto.logica.co.uk)

  

Bibliography:
-------------

Hoffman, Dieter               "Das Weissbuch"  ISBN: 3980248940
Wyman, Bill (w/ Ray Coleman)  "Stone Alone"    ISBN: 0670828947

============================================================================
                    


 The Rolling Stones (EP)                  (17-Jan-1964)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            PROD: Impact Sound

     Bye Bye Johnny / Money (That's What I Want) // You Better  Move  On  /
     Poison Ivy

     NB: rereleased 1983; Track 3 appears on "December's Children",German
         compilations "20 Super Hits"  &  "Heartbreakers",UK  compilation
         "Slow Rollers"; other 3 tracks appear on "More  Hot  Rocks";  all
         tracks are on German comps "Around  and  Around"/"Rolling  Stones
         Story"

 The Rolling Stones                       (17-Apr-1964)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones

     Route 66 / I Just Wanna Make Love To You / Honest I Do / Mona (I  Need
     You Baby) / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little //  I'm  a  King
     Bee / Carol / Tell Me / Can I Get A Witness / You Can Make It  If  You
     Try / Walking the Dog

     NB: To duplicate this release, take US lp  debut,  remove  "Not  Fade
         Away", add "Mona" (from "Now!"). German, Japanese CDs  use  this
         track listing.

 England's Newest Hit Makers              (01-May-1964)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<        PROD: Oldham/Eric Easton/Arr. Stones

     Not Fade Away / Route 66 / I Just Want to Make Love to You / Honest  I
     Do / Now I've Got a Witness / Little By Little // I'm  a  King  Bee  /
     Carol / Tell Me / Can I get A Witness / You Can Make it if You  Try  /
     Walking the Dog

     NB: then-manager Eric Easton's co-producer credits  removed  from  CD
         reissue; to duplicate, take UK lp debut, add "Not Fade Away"  (UK
         "High Tide/Green Grass"), and remove "Mona".   US  CD  uses  this
         track listing.

 Five by Five (EP)                        (14-Aug-1964)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                  PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones

     If You Need  Me  /  Empty  Heart  /  2120  South  Michigan  Avenue  //
     Confessin' the Blues / Around and Around

     NB: Vinyl rereleased 1983; all tracks can be found on American  LP/CD
         "12 X 5"; a  longer  version  of  "2120  South  Mich..."  appears
         nowhere except German compilation "Around and Around"  or  German
         box set "The Rolling Stones Story" -  both  vinyl,  both  out  of
         print.

 12 x 5                                   (24-Oct-1964)
 <<<<<<                             PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Around and Around / Confessin' the Blues / Empty Heart / Time Is on My
     Side / Good Times Bad Times / It's All Over Now // 2120 South Michigan
     Avenue / Under The Boardwalk / Congratulations / Grown Up Wrong  /  If
     You Need Me / Susie Q

     NB: includes all of "5 X 5" UK EP, four  tracks  from  second  UK  LP
         "No.2", and 3 single/compilation  tracks  "It's  All  Over  Now",
         "Good Times bad Times", and "Congratulations"

 No. 2                                    (16-Jan-1965)
 >>>>>                              PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me
     / Time Is On My Side / What A Shame / Grown Up Wrong // Down The  Road
     Apiece / Under the Boardwalk / I Can't Be Satisfied / Pain In My Heart
     / Off The Hook / Suzie Q

     NB: to duplicate, start with US LP "Now!", and add  "Time  Is  On  My
         Side", "Susie Q", "Under the Boardwalk", "Grown  Up  Wrong"  (all
         from US LP/CD "12x5"), and add "I Can't Be Satisfied"  (More  Hot
         Rocks)

 Now!                                     (13-Feb-1965)
 <<<<                               PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Everybody Needs Somebody To Love / Down Home Girl / You Can't Catch Me
     / Heart of Stone / What a Shame / Mona (I Need you Baby) //  Down  the
     Road Apiece / Off the Hook / Pain in My Heart / Oh Baby (We Got a Good
     Thing Goin') / Little Red Rooster / Surprise, Surprise

     NB: to duplicate, take UK LP "No. 2", delete tracks 4,6,8,9,12, and
         add "Mona" (first UK LP), "Heart of Stone", "Oh Baby" (UK version
         of "Out of Our Heads"), "Little Red Rooster" (single, or UK "High
         Tide and Green Grass"), and "Surprise, Surprise" (flipside)

 Got LIVE if you want it! (EP)            (11-Jun-1965)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      PROD: Oldham/Impact/Arr. Stones

     We Want the Stones / Everybody Needs Somebody To Love  /  Pain  in  My
     Heart / Route 66 // I'm Moving On / I'm Alright

     NB: Vinyl rereleased 1983; all tracks are on "Rest of the  Best"  and
         "Collectors Only" (German compilations, vinyl only, both  out  of
         print); Tracks 4,5 are found on "December's Children"; track 6 on
         US "Out of Our Heads"; tracks 2,3,5,6 on German "Legends of Rock"

 Out of Our Heads                         (30-Jul-1965)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<                   PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Mercy Mercy / Hitch Hike / The Last Time / That's How Strong  My  Love
     Is / Good Times / I'm Alright // Satisfaction / Cry To Me / The  Under
     Assistant West Coast Promotion Man / Play With Fire / The  Spider  and
     the Fly / One More Try

     NB: features "I'm Alright" from "Got Live" EP; to duplicate,  add  UK
         "Out of Our Heads";  singles  "Satisfaction",  "The  Last  Time",
         "Play With Fire"; "One More Try" (compilation "Stone Age");  and
         "Spider and the Fly" (flipside to the UK "Satisfaction" single)

 Out of Our Heads                         (24-Sep-1965)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     She Said Yeah / Mercy Mercy / Hitch-Hike / That's How Strong  My  Love
     Is / Good Times / Gotta Get Away // Talkin 'Bout You / Cry To Me /  Oh
     Baby (We Got a Good Thing Goin') / Heart of Stone / The Underassistant
     West Coast Promotion Man / I'm Free

     NB: To duplicate, Americans need "She Said Yeah", "Gotta  Get  Away",
         "Talkin About You", "I'm Free" (all from "December's  Children"),
         "Heart of Stone" and "Oh Baby" (from "Now!"), and US "Out of  Our
         Heads"

 December's Children                      (04-Dec-1965)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<                PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     She Said Yeah / Talkin' About You / You Better Move  On  /  Look  What
     You've Done / The Singer not the Song / Route 66  //  Get  Off  of  My
     Cloud / I'm Free / As Tears Go By / Gotta Get Away  /  Blue  Turns  To
     Grey / I'm Moving On

     NB: tracks 6 & 12 are taken from the UK "Got LIVE" EP; To  duplicate,
         Britons can find tracks 1,2,8, and 10 from the UK version of "Out
         of Our Heads". Compilations/singles are  only  vinyl  source  for
         tracks 3,4,5,7,9,11; German CD based on mono version of old US
         LP.

 Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass)     (02-Apr-1966)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Satisfaction / The Last Time / As Tears Go By / Time Is on My  Side  /
     It's All Over Now / Tell Me // 19th Nervous Breakdown / Heart of Stone
     / Get Off of My Cloud / Not Fade Away / Good Times, Bad Times  /  Play
     With Fire

     NB: compilation

 Aftermath                                (15-Apr-1966)
 >>>>>>>>>                          PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Mother's Little Helper / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under  My  Thumb  /
     Doncha Bother Me / Goin' Home // Flight 505 / High and Dry  /  Out  of
     Time / It's Not Easy / I Am Waiting / Take it or Leave It  /  Think  /
     What To Do

     NB: to duplicate, Americans need "Mother's Little Helper","Take It or
         Leave It", "Out of Time" ("Flowers"), and "What To Do" ("More Hot
         Rocks"); but correct, long version of "Out of Time" (5:36) is not
         a US release at all. Both versions of this release are on CD.

 Aftermath                                (02-Jul-1966)
 <<<<<<<<<                          PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Paint It, Black / Stupid Girl / Lady Jane / Under My  Thumb  /  Doncha
     Bother Me / Think // Flight 505 / High and Dry / It's Not Easy / I  am
     Waiting / Going Home

     NB: "Paint  It,  Black"  is  the  only  track  not  on  the  European
         configuration. US version of this is easily duplicated with  just
         that track.  Both versions of this release are on CD.

 Big Hits (High Tide and Green Grass)     (04-Nov-1966)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? /  Paint  It,
     Black / It's All Over Now / The Last Time / Heart of Stone / Not  Fade
     Away / Come On // Satisfaction / Get Off of My Cloud / As Tears Go  By
     / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Lady Jane / Time Is On My Side / Little Red
     Rooster

     NB: several tracks appear on UK LongPlayer for the first  time  ever:
         US LPs had already included "Little Red Rooster","The Last Time",
         "Not Fade Away","Satisfaction", "It's All Over Now","Paint  It,
         Black" & "Get Off of my Cloud"

 Got LIVE if you Want it!                 (10-Dec-1966)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<           PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham

     Under My Thumb / Get Off of My Cloud / Lady Jane /  Not  Fade  Away  /
     I've Been Loving You Too Long / Fortune Teller // The Last Time / 19th
     Nervous Breakdown / Time is On My Side / I'm Alright / Have  You  Seen
     you Mother, Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Satisfaction

     NB: Poorly recorded; several tracks are just studio  recordings  with
         canned audience on top. ABKCO  "Digital  Remaster"  from  mid-80s
         uses a different version of "Under My Thumb";  UK  customers  got
         tracks 1,3,5,6,9,12 in 1971, on the compilation "Gimme Shelter"

 Between the Buttons                      (20-Jan-1967)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Yesterday's Papers / My Obsession / Back Street Girl  /  Connection  /
     She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm and Collected // All Sold Out / Please
     Go Home / Who's Been Sleeping Here? / Complicated / Miss Amanda  Jones
     / Something Happened to Me Yesterday

     NB: Last non-compilation album produced by Oldham; US release can  be
         duplicated by starting with this, and adding singles "Let's Spend
         the Night Together" and "Ruby Tuesday", and dropping tracks 8 and
         3 from it.

 Between the Buttons                      (11-Feb-1967)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<                PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Let's Spend the Night Together / Yesterday's Papers / Ruby  Tuesday  /
     Connection / She Smiled Sweetly / Cool, Calm,  and  Collected  //  All
     Sold Out / My Obsession / Who's Been Sleeping Here?  /  Complicated  /
     Miss Amanda Jones / Something Happened to Me Yesterday

     NB: last album produced by Oldham; to get UK release, drop tracks  1,
         3, and add "Please Go Home" and "Back Street  Girl"  (both  found
         on"Flowers")

 Flowers                                  (15-Jul-1967)
 <<<<<<<                            PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Ruby Tuesday / Have You  Seen  your  Mother,  Baby,  Standing  in  the
     Shadow? / Let's Spend the Night Together / Lady Jane / Out Of  Time  /
     My Girl // Backstreet Girl / Please Go Home / Mother's Little Helper /
     Take it Or Leave It / Ride On, Baby / Sittin' on a Fence

     NB: collection: 4 single sides, 5 UK LP tracks (2 from  "Between  the
         Buttons", and 3 from "Aftermath"); "My Girl" and "Ride On  Baby"
         remain unavailable elsewhere. "Sittin' on a Fence" is on  the  UK
         version of "Through the Past  Darkly",  and  also  on  "More  Hot
         Rocks"

 Their Satanic Majesties' Request         (09-Dec-1967)
 ================================   PROD: Rolling Stones

     Sing This All Together / Citadel / In Another Land / 2000 Man  /  Sing
     This All Together (see what happens) // She's a Rainbow / The  Lantern
     / Gomper / 2000 Light Years from Home / On With the Show

     NB: First album not produced by Oldham; First and only  album  to  be
         produced by 'The Rolling  Stones';  first  album  with  identical
         track listings on either side of the Atlantic Ocean

 Beggar's Banquet                         (07-Dec-1968)
 ================                   PROD: Jimmy Miller

     Sympathy For the Devil / No Expectations /  Dear  Doctor  /  Parachute
     Woman / Jig-Saw Puzzle // Street Fightin' Man / Prodigal Son  /  Stray
     Cat Blues / Factory Girl / Salt of the Earth

     NB: First album produced by Jimmy Miller.  DECCA banned  use  of  the
         original "toilet & graffiti" cover, which was later used  on  the
         ABKCO release in 1986 on lp and CD. Note alternate mix of "Street
         Fighting Man" on  very  few,  early  pressings  of  the  American
         7-inch.

 Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (12-Sep-1969)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: Andrew Loog Oldham/Arr. Stones

     Jumping Jack Flash / Mother's Little Helper / 2000  Light  Years  From
     Home / Let's Spend the Night Together / You Better Move On /  We  Love
     You // Street Fightin'  Man  /  She's  A  Rainbow  /  Ruby  Tuesday  /
     Dandelion / Sittin' On a Fence / Honky Tonk Women

     NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier

 Through the Past, Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. (13-Sep-1969)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<PROD: (various)

     Paint It Black / Ruby Tuesday / She's a Rainbow / Jumpin' Jack Flash /
     Mother's Little Helper / Let's Spend the Night Together // Honky  Tonk
     Women  / Dandelion / 2000 Light Years from home / Have you  Seen  Your
     Mother Baby, Standing in the Shadow? / Street Fighting Man

     NB: Compilation; dedicated to Brian Jones, dead two months earlier

 Let it Bleed                             (06-Dec-1969)
 ============                       PROD: Jimmy Miller

     Gimme Shelter / Love In Vain / Country Honk / Live With Me  /  Let  It
     Bleed // Midnight Rambler / You Got The Silver  /  Monkey  man  /  You
     Can't Always Get What You Want

     NB: first LP to feature Mick Taylor, Brian Jones'  replacement;  last
         ever Stones' record to be issued with  a  commercially  available
         alternate mono version; first ever album to NOT  have  an  A-side
         single issued

 Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!                     (01-Sep-1970)
 ====================               PROD: Stones/Glyn Johns

     Jumpin' Jack Flash / Carol / Stray Cat Blues / Love in Vain / Midnight
     Rambler // Sympathy for the Devil / Live with Me /  Little  Queenie  /
     Honky Tonk Women / Street Fighting Man

     NB: live (with generous overdubs/editing); recorded on the 1969 tour
         in New York City  and  Baltimore,  MD;  last  non-compilation  LP
         issued for DECCA/London/ABKCO; subsequent Stones  releases  would
         be on Rolling Stones Records ("tongue" label)

 Sticky Fingers                           (23-Apr-1971)
 ==============                     PROD: Jimmy Miller

     Brown Sugar / Sway / Wild Horses / Can't You Hear Me  Knockin'  /  You
     Gotta Move // Bitch / I Got the Blues / Sister Morphine / Dead Flowers
     / Moonlight Mile

     NB: Notorious 'zipper' cover, designed by Andy Warhol, was banned  in
         Spain, where a sick "severed finger" motif was used  instead,  as
         was a substitution of "Let it  Rock"  for  objectionable  "Sister
         Morphine". First LP release on the new "Rolling  Stones  Records"
         label

 Hot Rocks 1964 - 1971                    (01-Jan-1972)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<              PROD: (various)

     Time is on My Side / Heart of Stone / Play With Fire / Satisfaction  /
     As Tears Go By / Get Off My Cloud // Mother's  Little  Helper  /  19th
     Nervous Breakdown / Paint It, Black / Under My Thumb / Ruby Tuesday  /
     Let's Spend the Night Together // Jumping Jack Flash / Street Fighting
     Man / Sympathy for the Devil / Honky Tonk Women  /  Gimme  Shelter  //
     Midnight Rambler (Live) / You Can't Always Get What You Want  /  Brown
     Sugar / Wild Horses

     NB: Compilation; issued in UK in  1990;  American  CDs  use  inferior
         mixes.  German CD uses superior Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs'  1984
         remastering, including *true* stereo versions of several  popular
         favorites, like "Satisfaction" and "Paint it, Black"

 Exile On Main St.                        (01-May-1972)
 =================                  PROD: Jimmy Miller

     Rocks Off / Rip This Joint / Hip Shake / Casino Boogie / Tumbling Dice
     // Sweet Virginia / Torn & Frayed / Sweet Black Angel / Loving Cup  //
     Happy / Turd on the Run / Ventilator Blues / Just Wanna See His Face /
     Let It Loose // All Down the Line / Stop Breaking Down / Shine a Light
     / Soul Survivor

     NB: the only double-LP of new studio work issued by the  group  until
         1994's "Voodoo Lounge". 20-bit  digital  remaster  CD  issued  by
         Virgin records June, 1994.

 More Hot Rocks                           (01-Dec-1972)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<                     PROD: (various)

     Tell Me / Not Fade Away / The Last Time / It's All  Over  Now  /  Good
     Times Bad Times / I'm Free // Out of Time / Lady Jane / Sittin'  On  a
     Fence / Have You Seen You Mother,  Baby,  Standing  in  the  Shadow  /
     Dandelion / We Love You // She's a Rainbow /  2000  Light  Years  From
     Home / Child of the Moon / No Expectations / Let It Bleed //  What  To
     Do / Money / Come On / Fortune Teller / Poison Ivy / Bye Bye Johnnie /
     I Can't Be Satisfied / Long Long While

     NB: compilation; not in UK until 1990; "side four" is a  good  source
         of previously unavailable UK album tracks and  flipsides;   first
         three sides are a  rocking  compilation  of  near-hits;  versions
         "Digitally Remastered" have different versions of several tracks

 Goat's Head Soup                         (31-Aug-1973)
 ================                   PROD: Jimmy Miller

     Dancing With Mr. D / 100 Years Ago / Coming Down Again / Doo  Doo  Doo
     Doo Doo (Heartbreaker) / Angie / Silver  Train  /  Hide  Your  Love  /
     Winter / Can You Hear the Music / Star Star

     NB: "censored" version of "Star Star" available only  on  initial  US
         vinyl pressings, distributed by WEA. 20-bit digital  remaster  CD
         issued by Virgin Records June 1994.

 It's Only Rock 'n' Roll                  (01-Oct-1974)
 =======================            PROD: Glimmer Twins

     If You Can't Rock Me / Ain't Too Proud to Beg /  It's  Only  Rock  and
     Roll / Till the Next Goodbye / Time Waits for No One // Luxury / Dance
     Little Sister / If You Really Want to Be My Friend / Short and Curlies
     / Fingerprint File

     NB: First album produced by the 'Glimmer Twins'; between-track timing
         on the CD noticeably "off" from the vinyl on "side  one";  single
         flipside ("Through the Lonely Nights", from "It's Only..")  still
         "uncompiled". 20-bit digital remaster issued by Virgin/EMI, 6/94

 Metamorphosis                            (01-Jun-1975)
 <<<<<<<<<<<<<                      PROD: (various)

     Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Each and Everyday of the Year /  Heart
     of Stone / I'd Much Rather be With  the  Boys  /  (Walkin'  thru  the)
     Sleepy City / Try a Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If you Let  Me
     / Jiving Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From  Turner  /
     I'm Going Down

     NB: poorly selected compilation of  outtakes  from  the  Klein  years
         (early sixties to 1970)

 Metamorphosis (uk)                       (01-Jun-1975)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 PROD: (various)

     Out of Time / Don't Lie To Me / Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind  /
     Each and Every Day of the Year / Heart of Stone / I'd Much  Rather  Be
     with the Boys / (Walkin' through the) Sleepy City / We're Wastin' Time
     / Try A Little Harder // I Don't Know Why / If You  Let  Me  /  Jiving
     Sister Fanny / Downtown Suzie / Family / Memo From Turner / I'm  Going
     Down


 Made In the Shade                        (06-Jun-1975)
 =================                  PROD: (various)

     Brown Sugar / Tumbling Dice / Happy  /  Dance  Little  Sister  /  Wild
     Horses // Angie / Bitch / It's Only Rock 'n Roll / Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo
     (Heartbreaker) / Rip This Joint

     NB: compilation

 Black and Blue                           (01-Apr-1976)
 ==============                     PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Hot Stuff / Hand Of Fate / Cherry Oh  Baby  /  Memory  Motel  //  Hey,
     Negrita / Melody / Fool To Cry / Crazy Mama

     NB: first new album released  with  Ron  Wood  as  a  member.  20-bit
         digital remaster CD, issued by Virgin/EMI 6/94, said to have  one
         or two tracks with longer fades.

 Love You Live                            (23-Sep-1977)
 =============                      PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Intro/Honky Tonk Women / If You Can't Rock Me/Get Off My Cloud / Happy
     / Hot Stuff / Star Star // Tumbling Dice  /  Fingerprint  File  /  You
     Gotta Move / You Can't Always Get What  You  Want  //  Mannish  Boy  /
     Crackin' Up / Little Red Rooster / Around and Around // It's Only Rock
     and Roll / Brown Sugar / Jumping Jack Flash / Sympathy for the Devil

     NB: live; recorded in Paris 1976, and Toronto 1977; another  'Warhol'
         cover art; dedicated to Keith Harwood, recently deceased

 Some Girls                               (09-Jun-1978)
 ==========                         PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Miss You / When the Whip Comes Down / Just My Imagination / Some Girls
     / Lies // Far Away Eyes / Respectable / Before  They  Make  Me  Run  /
     Beast of Burden / Shattered

     NB: Cover reworked due to objections of pictured  celebrities,  incl.
         Lucille Ball. 1 flipside ("Everything's Turning to Gold")  and  1
         remix ("Miss You") were later "compiled". "promo mix" of  "Before
         they Make Me" is still uncompiled. 1st lp preceded  by  a  2-year
         gap.

 Emotional Rescue                         (23-Jun-1980)
 ================                   PROD: Glimmer Twins/Kimsey (assoc.)

     Dance (Pt. I) / Summer Romance / Send it To Me / Let Me  Go  /  Indian
     Girl //  Where the Boys Go / Down in the Hole  /  Emotional  Rescue  /
     She's So Cold / All About You

     NB: Early copies had a very large, color 'thermo' poster, also  found
         in the special ltd. edition Virgin/EMI CD, 6/94. "Promo" edits of
         "Emotional Rescue" and "She's So Cold" (latter has no line saying
         "God Damn Cold") are still "uncompiled".

 Sucking in the Seventies                 (12-Mar-1981)
 ========================           PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Shattered / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Hot Stuff (version) / Time
     Waits For No One (version) / Fool To  Cry  (version)  //  Mannish  Boy
     (version) / When the Whip Comes Down (live) / If I was a Dancer (Dance
     Pt. 2) / Crazy Mama (version) / Beast of Burden (version)

     NB: Compilation: six single edits,  a  B-side,  and  2  new  goodies;
         "Promo" mix (instrumental) of "If I was a Dancer", which appeared
         as a flipside on a separate 12" single, still "uncompiled".  Only
         "Shattered"  is  issued  here  as  found  on  its   original   LP
         incarnation.

 Tattoo You                               (27-Aug-1981)
 ==========                         PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Start Me Up / Hang Fire / Slave / Little T & A  /  Black  Limousine  /
     Neighbours // Worried About You / Tops / Heaven / No Use in  Crying  /
     Waiting On a Friend

     NB: featured songs in the can from as far back as 1973.  Last Stones'
         studio LP to be preceded by less  than  a  two-year  gap.  20-bit
         digital remaster CD issued by Virgin/EMI 6/94

 Still Life (American Concert 1981)       (01-Jun-1982)
 ================================== PROD: Glimmer Twins

     Intro (Take the A-Train) / Under My Thumb  /  Let's  Spend  the  Night
     Together / Shattered / Twenty Flight Rock / Going to a Go-Go // Let Me
     Go / Time Is On My Side  /  Just  My  Imagination  /  Start  Me  Up  /
     Satisfaction (outro: "Star Spangled Banner")

     NB: live; first American CD ever (mistake) issued in 1984. "Beast  of
         Burden (live)" flipside later appeared on "Collectibles" CD

 Undercover                               (01-Nov-1983)
 ==========                         PROD: Glimmer Twins/Chris Kimsey

     Undercover of the Night / She Was Hot / Tie You Up (The Pain of  Love)
     / Wanna Hold You / Feel On Baby // Too Much Blood / Pretty Beat  Up  /
     Too Tough / All the Way Down / It Must Be Hell

     NB: "short" version of "Wanna Hold You" available only on initial  US
         vinyl pressings distributed by WEA; This is the first ever Stones
         CD - appeared in Europe 1983;  one  flipside  ("Think  I'm  Going
         Mad", back of "She Was Hot") still "uncompiled"

 Rewind (lp)                              (01-Jun-1984)
 >>>>>>>>>>>                        PROD: (various)

     Brown Sugar / Undercover of the Night / Start Me Up / Tumbling Dice  /
     It's Only Rock 'n' Roll / She's So Cold // Miss You / Beast of  Burden
     / Fool To Cry / Waiting on A Friend / Angie / Respectable

     NB: compilation - UK issue is missing "Hang Fire" from  its  American
         counterpart, but includes "Respectable" and "She's So Cold".

 Rewind (lp)                              (01-Jul-1984)
 <<<<<<<<<<<                        PROD: (various)

     Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the  Night  /  Start  Me  Up  /
     Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire // Emotional Rescue / Beast of Burden / Fool
     To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie

     NB: compilation. Note  different  track  listing  from  CD,  and  the
         European version of  the  lp,  which  had  "She's  So  Cold"  and
         "Respectable", but left out "Hang Fire".

 Dirty Work                               (21-Mar-1986)
 ==========                         PROD: Steve Lillywhite/Glimmer Twins

     One Hit (to the Body) / Fight / Harlem Shuffle / Hold Back / Too  Rude
     // Winning Ugly / Back To Zero / Dirty Work / Had It With You /  Sleep
     Tonight

     NB: Dedicated to recently deceased Ian Stewart; check  out  "fadeout"
         at end of album.

 Rewind (CD)                              (01-Dec-1986)
 ===========                        PROD: (various)

     Miss You / Brown Sugar / Undercover of the  Night  /  Start  Me  Up  /
     Tumbling Dice / Hang Fire / It's Only Rock'n'Roll / Emotional Rescue /
     Beast of Burden / Fool To Cry / Waiting on a Friend / Angie / Doo  Doo
     Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)

     NB: compilation ("Heartbreaker" and "Only Rock  and  Roll"  added  to
         American LP configuration); A German CBS reissue on vinyl in 1990
         (450199-1) uses this CD-based song lineup.

 The London Years (Disc 1)                (01-Aug-1989)
 =========================          PROD: (various)

     Come On/ I Want To Be Loved/ I Wanna Be Your  Man/  Stoned/  Not  Fade
     Away/ Little By Little/ It's All Over Now/ Good Times, Bad Times/ Tell
     Me/  I  Just  Want  To  Make  Love  To  You/  Time  Is  On  My   Side/
     Congratulations/ Little Red Rooster/ Off The  Hook/  Heart  Of  Stone/
     What A Shame/ The Last Time/ Play With Fire/ Satisfaction/  The  Under
     Assistant West Coast Promotion Man/ The Spider and the Fly/ Get Off Of
     My Cloud/ I'm Free/ The Singer Not the Song/ As Tears Go By


 The London Years (Disc 2)                (01-Aug-1989)
 =========================          PROD: (various)

     Gotta Get Away / 19th Nervous Breakdown / Sad Day / Paint It, Black  /
     Stupid Girl / Long Long While / Mother's Little Helper / Lady  Jane  /
     Have You Seen You Mother,  Baby,  Standing  in  the  Shadow?  /  Who's
     Driving Your Plane / Let's Spend the Night Together / Ruby  Tuesday  /
     We Love You / Dandelion / She's A Rainbow / 2000 Light Years From Home
     / In Another Land / The Lantern / Jumpin' Jack Flash /  Child  of  the
     Moon

     NB: Compilation featuring most of the singles and flipsides  released
         under DECCA/Allen Klein.  Heavy overlap  with  compilations  "Hot
         Rocks" (all HR's titles but three, and  a  different  "You  Can't
         Always Get") and "More Hot Rocks" (17 of "MHR"'s 25 tracks.)

 The London Years (Disc 3)                (01-Aug-1989)
 =========================          PROD: (various)

     Street Fighting Man / No Expectations / Surprise Surprise / Honky Tonk
     Women / You Can't Always Get What You Want / Memo From Turner /  Brown
     Sugar / Wild Horses / I Don't Know Why / Try A Little Harder / Out  Of
     Time / Jiving Sister Fanny / Sympathy For the Devil

     NB: Finally on CD are: four "Metamorphosis" tracks; "I Wanna Be  Your
         Man", "I Want to Be Loved", and "Stoned"; 'promo' version of 'You
         Can't  Always  Get  What  You  Want'.  "Memo  from  Turner"   was
         previously not a 'Stones' titile in the States.

 Steel Wheels                             (28-Aug-1989)
 ============                       PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins

     Sad Sad Sad / Mixed Emotions / Terrifying / Hold  on  to  Your  Hat  /
     Hearts For Sale / Blinded By Love // Rock and a Hard Place / Can't  Be
     Seen / Almost Hear You Sigh / Continental Drift / Break  the  Spell  /
     Slipping Away

     NB: three flipsides from this  album:  seek  out  "Cook  Cook  Blues"
         ("Rock and a Hard Place"), "Fancyman Blues"  ("Mixed  Emotions"),
         and "Wish I'd Never Met You" ("Terrifying"), or get all three  on
         CD compilation "Collectibles". First  LP  to  be  preceded  by  a
         3-year gap.

 Collector's Edition/Collectibles         (01-Jun-1990)
 ================================   PROD: (various)

     Rock and a Hard Place (version) / Miss You (12" single)  /  Cook  Cook
     Blues / Everything Is Turning to Gold / Winning Ugly (remix)  /  Beast
     of Burden (live) / Fancyman Blues / Harlem Shuffle (London Mix) / Wish
     I'd Never Met You / Mixed Emotions (remix)

     NB: included with either the "Collection 1971-1990" box set,  or  the
         "Flashpoint" special edition issued in the States (where it  uses
         the name "Collectibles"

 Flashpoint  (CD)                         (02-Apr-1991)
 ================                   PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins

     Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Rock and  a
     Hard Place / Ruby Tuesday / You Can't  Always  Get  What  You  Want  /
     Factory Girl / Can't Be Seen / Little Red Rooster / Paint it  Black  /
     Sympathy  For  the  Devil  /  Brown  Sugar  /  Jumpin'  Jack  Flash  /
     Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive


 Flashpoint  (lp)                         (02-Apr-1991)
 ================                   PROD: Chris Kimsey / Glimmer Twins

     Continental Drift / Start Me Up / Sad Sad Sad / Miss You / Ruby Tueday
     / You Can't Always Get What You Want  /  Factory  Girl  /  Little  Red
     Rooster // Paint It Black / Sympathy For the Devil  /  Brown  Sugar  /
     Jumpin' Jack Flash / Satisfaction / Highwire / Sex Drive

     NB: 14 (12 on vinyl) live  +  2  new  studio  tracks;  first  time  a
         simultaneous release had different  tracks  on  different  media;
         seven live songs were released as flipsides to singles from  this
         album. (see list at bottom).

 Jump Back - The Best of the Rolling Ston (22-Nov-1993)
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PROD: (various)

     Start Me Up / Brown Sugar / Harlem Shuffle / It's Only Rock 'n' Roll /
     Mixed Emotions / Angie / Tumbling Dice / Fool To Cry / Rock and a Hard
     Place / Miss You / Hot Stuff / Emotional Rescue / Respectable /  Beast
     of Burden / Waiting On a Friend / Wild horses / Bitch / Undercover  of
     the Night

     NB: (compilation) 20-bit  digital  remastering,  this  is  the  first
         Stones' release on their new label, Virgin records (Keith's  solo
         label since 1988)

 Voodoo Lounge (CD)                       (12-Jul-1994)
 ==================                 PROD: Don Was/Glimmer Twins

     Love Is Strong / You Got Me Rocking / Sparks Will Fly /  The  Worst  /
     New Faces / Moon Is Up / Out of Tears / I Go Wild / Brand  New  Car  /
     Sweethearts Together / Suck on the Jugular /  Blinded  by  Rainbows  /
     Baby Break it Down / Thru and Thru / Mean Disposition

     NB: A month shy of being first Stones' album  with  a  5-year  delay.
         Flipsides include "The Storm" and "So Young". Track 15 is not  on
         non-CD media. First new studio  album  to  have  different  track
         listings on different media.

 Voodoo Lounge (lp)                       (12-Jul-1994)
 ==================                 PROD: Don Was/Glimmer Twins

     Love Is Strong / You Got Me Rocking / Sparks Will Fly // The  Worst  /
     New Faces / Moon Is Up / Out of Tears // I Go Wild / Brand New  Car  /
     Sweethearts Together / Suck on the Jugular // Blinded  by  Rainbows  /
     Baby Break it Down / Thru and Thru

     NB: A month shy of being first Stones' album  with  a  5-year  delay.
         Flipsides include "The Storm" and "So  Young".  CD  version  also
         includes a 15th track, "Mean Disposition". First new studio album
         to feature different track lineups on different media.


      ========================     CDs, CDs, CDs    =========================

    Who issues them? 

      At any one time, legitimate CDs from the Rolling Stones (i.e., CDs
      the Rolling Stones WANT to release, and not the "Official
      Unauthorized" variety of CDs widely issued in Europe over the last
      several years, often including live concerts and out takes) are
      issued by only two companies:  

          ABKCO (owned by Allen Klein, who has rights to all Rolling Stones  
                 recordings originally issued up to and including 1970, and 
                 the rights to all Rolling Stones compositions up to and 
                 including 1971's "Sticky Fingers") and its subcontractors 
                 (typically, "London" records, which is the label on which 
                 American versions of Stones recordings were issued in the 
                 1960s).
        or
          "The Rolling Stones" (which owns all of the band's post-1970  
                 recordings) and its subcontractors. (As of this writing, 
                 this would be Virgin Records, which was sold to EMI after 
                 the Rolling Stones signed with Virgin in 1992.) 

      Since "The Rolling Stones" own all of their post-1970 "recordings",
      what they can do is license them for release on their current label,
      whatever it may be, and take the recordings with them when the
      record company contract expires.  This would explain the variety of
      companies you may see issuing post-1970 CDs by the Rolling Stones in
      your local used CD store (although American Stones CDs from this era
      were, up until 1993, and with only one WEA exception, issued only by
      Sony/CBS, who signed the Rolling Stones worldwide in 1984. One may
      also see European or Japanese CDs from this era issued by EMI, the
      Rolling Stones' label in much of the  world from 1977 to 1984.)

      *Whew!*


    When did they come out? 

      The first Rolling Stones CD ever issued was 'Undercover', in Europe 
      by EMI in 1983.  In the States, it is "Still Life", mistakenly
      released in 1984 by WEA, the Stones' American label at the time. 
      American CDs did not officially appear until 1986, when Sony/CBS
      started issuing them, and ABKCO began unleashing its cache in the
      States as it had been doing since 1984 in Europe.
                                                        
    What are they like? 
             
      The release of CDs did not freeze in stone (heh heh) any particular
      version of a song, or album, or Stones recording career overview. 

      Indeed, it exacerbated a long-standing problem where different
      issues of a Stones album have literally different tracks on them, as
      was the case in the early 60s, or where discernibly different
      versions of a single song may be on different issues of an album, a
      situation which went on for close to 20 years, happening as late as
      1983 with the release of 'Undercover', and its two distinct versions
      of "Wanna Hold You".  Even when a CD has two different versions (as
      in the interesting case of "More Hot Rocks"), it may still mean that
      a particular version of a song can only be found on old vinyl. 

      (some examples include: 

      * a version of "Poison Ivy" found only on the
        vinyl release of "More Hot Rocks", 
      * a version of "Tell Me" found only on the earliest pressings of 
        the first Rolling Stones album, 
      * a version of "2120 South Michigan Avenue" found only on the 
        compilation _Around and Around_, 
      * the "original" live recording of "Under My Thumb" which did not 
        make it to the CD remaster of the "Got LIVE if you Want it!" album, 
      
      and on and on......)


      Other, more esoteric issues also exist: true (i.e., channel-separated)  
      stereo vs. electronically processed stereo versions of songs; and  
      multiple (as many as four) distinct versions of a single song existing  
      officially with absolute changes, such as a missing guitar solo, organ,
      percussion track, or verse. Many of the American ABKCO CDs 
      are considered inferior to their European counterparts due to a lack of 

      careful mastering. Many of the tracks which people find preferable on  
      European ABKCO CDs were remastered by Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs for a
      1984 box set. This box reissued the Stones' London Records catalogue on 
      vinyl in the States in 1984, the same year the ABKCO CDs began 
      appearing in Europe.

   What do I need minimally for a "complete" Rolling Stones collection
   on CD?

      As it stands now, there is no way to have a complete Rolling
      Stones' collection without having at least some old vinyl records.
      
      As this applies to ABKCO, there are 22 song _titles_ never 
      issued on CD at all, and several previously released and available 
      _versions_ of other titles yet to see the light of laser.

      As it applies to Rolling Stones Records, there are three or
      four (depending on your attitude towards flexi-discs) _titles_
      still not released on CD.  In addition, there are more than a 
      dozen promo/mono edits and dance remixes which are not on CD.

      The ABKCO years:

      When wondering "which version" of an ABKCO CD to buy, consider 
      recommendations on sound quality from friends, and remember, 
      if you are trying to get a "complete" (i.e. as complete as it 
      can be on CD) collection of CD _versions_, no collection which 
      does not mix CDs of "UK" and "US" versions will do it for you, 
      as a five-minute-plus version of "Out of Time" is only on the 
      UK-format "Aftermath", and true stereo versions of several
      early tracks never came out in the States on disc. 

      Buying "all American" on ABKCO CDs will give you a complete 
      collection of CD-available _titles_, but you have to buy 
      them _all_ (including the 3-disc "London Years" box), and can only 
      leave out "Hot Rocks (1964-1971)" and the two single-disc 
      "Big Hits" compilations. 

      After all this, you still will not have the six vinyl-only tracks 
      which were released in Germany ("I've been Loving You Too Long 
      (studio)", "Con le Mie Lacrime", "Tell Me Baby, How Many More 
      Times", "Memphis Tennessee", "Da Doo Ron Ron" or "Cocksucker
      Blues"), the first three tracks from the 1965 EP "Got Live if 
      You Want it!" (although one of them is just a chant called 
      "We Want the Stones.") or the 12 tracks from the UK version 
      of the 1975 compilation _Metamorphosis_ which never made it 
      to the _London Years_ box, the only CD source of ANY tracks from 
      _Metamorphosis_.


      A CD collector trying to get a complete set of CD-available _titles_ 
      _must_ include some discs whose track listings are based on American
      LP track listings, as several US titles (esp. "December's Children") 
      have tracks which never appeared in a DECCA/UK-format LP except on 
      long-out-of-print vinyl compilations.

      The post-ABKCO years: 

      Certain later (post-1970) albums were notoriously mistreated in their 
      switch to digital, and with the advent of 20-bit mastering
      technology, Virgin Records reissued 20-bit remasters of the
      Rolling Stones' studio output from "Sticky Fingers" (1971) to
      "Steel Wheels" (1989), with eight of these titles available in 
      limited edition commemmorative packaging, in June 1994.

      Some people report (trivially) longer fades on some of the tracks 
      on these Virgin remasters, raising the spectre of "different versions" 
      all over again, and forcing one to track down CBS-issue CDs in 
      order to have a complete set of CD _versions_. 

      At this point, the future on CD of compilations and live albums 
      originally issued by "Rolling Stones Records" from 1975 to 1991 (all
      of which were reissued on CD after 1984) is up in the air.  This is 
      six titles in all, four of which have material which can't be culled 
      from other currently available CD sources. 
   
      About two dozen post-ABKCO tracks have never been issued on CD, 
      although only four of them ("Let it Rock", "Exile on Main Street
      Blues", "Through the Lonely Nights", and "Think I'm Going Mad") 
      are actual separate performances. For the most part, these 
      non-Digitized tracks are 12" "dance" remixes, or mono/promo edits, 
      and are of varying value.

    ========================Flipsides and oddities=========================

    The following selections appeared on the 1980 German Compilation
    LP called "For Collector's Only" [sic], and the 1984 4 LP German boxed 
    set "The Rest of the Best",  but nowhere on the albums listed above for  
    the USA or UK.  Since the deletion of these two compilations, 
    these tracks remain unavailable officially.  Items marked "F" are 
    available on "For Collector's Only", and "B", the German box.
    

  B  "Tell Me Baby, How Many Times"     recorded Chicago, June 1964
  BF "I've Been Loving You too Long"    recorded Los Angeles, May 1965
  B  "Da Doo Ron Ron"                   Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra,  1964
  B  "Memphis Tennessee"                      ""               ""
  BF "Con le Mie Lacrime"               Italian "As Tears Go By", Spring '66
  B  "Cocksucker Blues"                 Olympic Studios, 1970 
                                          (limited edition 7" bonus single
                                           found only w/ original issue.)

   
    The following selections have been officially released by the
    Rolling Stones for public consumption, but have yet to appear on any
    LP or compilation released in the States or the UK.

1971   "Let It Rock"    - third track on UK "Brown Sugar" single
                        - Spanish version of "Sticky Fingers" LP, replacing 
                             "Sister Morphine"
1972   "Exile on Main Street Blues"
                        promotional flexi - included w/ UK magazine purchase
1974   "Through the Lonely Nights"
                        flipside to "It's Only Rock'n'Roll" 45
1984   "Think I'm Going Mad" 
                        flipside to "She Was Hot" 45

1990  The "Flashpoint" sides. A number of live performances
      recorded on the 1989-1990 tours were used as flipsides
      to singles pulled off "Flashpoint". These include:

      "2000 Light Years from Home"      (Highwire   US7", UK CD single "A")
      "Undercover of the Night"         (Sexdrive   US7", 
                                              Ruby Tueday UK CD single "A")
      "Play With Fire"                  (Ruby Tuesday 7", UK CD single "A")
      "I Just Wanna Make Love To You"   (Highwire  UK12", UK CD single "A")
      "Tumbling Dice"                   (Jumpin' JF   7", Benelux CD single)
      "Street Fightin' Man"             (Benelux CD single [same as above] )
      "Harlem Shuffle"                  (Ruby Tuesday     UK CD single "B")

      This list does not pretend to exhaust your methods of getting
      the tracks, it just offers suggestions for finding them.
     
1993  "Gimme Shelter (live)" - (cassette only, UK only) - 
             issued as part of a benefit project for the homeless in 
             1993, in which various artists cover the song, the Stones' 
             contribution was a live, "Urban Wheels" version. This
             version does appear on a CD, but it is the Promo. 

1994  "The Storm" (Flipside of "Love Is Strong" - found on US 
             cassette and CD single, and European CD VSCDT1503)

1994  "So Young" (Found on European CD listed immediately above.)

1980-1994  The "remixes".  While the Collectibles CD includes
      one remix each of several popular songs, some persist that
      have never been released on any collection:

      "Undercover (Extended)"            (Undercover     12")
      "Feel On Baby (Instrumental)"      (""             " ")
      "Too Much Blood" (several exist)   (Too Much Blood 12")
      "Harlem Shuffle (New York mix)"    (Harlem Shuffle 12")
      "One Hit (London Mix)"             (One Hit        12")
      "Rock and a Hard Place"            (R & a HP    US 12")
          (Oh oh hard dub mix, Bonus Beats Mix, Dance Mix, 
           Michael Brauer Mix)
      "Terrifying (remix)"               (Terrifying     12")
      "Sexdrive" (Club Mix,Dirty Hands Mix) 
                                         (Sexdrive Euro- CD5)
      "Love Is Strong" (Bob Clearmountain Mix)
                                         (4th track on European
                                           CD single VSCDT1503)
      "Love Is Strong" (Joe the Butcher club mix, plus 
                        5 Teddy Riley mixes - radio, extended,
                        extended rock, dub, & instrumental)
                                         (UK CD VSCDX1503)


1971-1990  The "promos".  Released to radio stations and DJ pools, 
      promotional singles will often include a version of a record that
      is more amenable to commercial airplay or dance club use, by virtue 
      of cleaned-up language, a different running time, or a hotter mix 
      more friendly to the intended arena (radio play or dance clubs).

      Many promos exist for the Rolling Stones where one side is "Mono"
      and the other is "Stereo", but here we catalogue records that 
      were more substantially altered:  

      "Wild Horses"  (shorter version)               (Promo           7")
      "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll"  (shorter)           (Promo           7")
      "Before They make Me Run"                      (Promo           7")
      "Shattered" (clocks in under 3 minutes!!)      (Promo           7")
      "Emotional Rescue"                             (Promo           7")
      "She's So Cold" ('clean' - no 'God damn cold') (Promo           7")
      "If I was a Dancer (Instrumental)"             (Promo          12")
      "Waiting On a Friend" (more than a minute off) (Promo           7")
      "Undercover"                                   (Promo           7")
      "Sexdrive" (edited Club version)               (US Promo       12")