MMMMM-----Meal-Master - formatted by MMCONV 1.60 Title: Sensei's Hummingbird Food Categories: Bird Food Servings: 1 1/2 c sugar 1 1 1/2 cups water I use sugar & water.Based on the size of my feeders I use 1/2 cup sugar to about 1 - 1 1/2 cups water.No need for it to be red. I've been using this method for years.No need to buy the stuff from the store. The humming birds need sugar,which is cheaper & easier to fix at home. Good luck to your grandfather. ss there are always too many hangers in my closet,or too few. From: Sensei #369 @1704002 1 Date: 08-05-94 MMMMM-------------------------------------------------