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    talk about the next id game 'quake'. pure facts. direct quotes from id 
employees _only_. the remarks on this list were all publically made, so i
hope id doesn't mind me passing this along, allthough bare in mind, that
quake still is in a very early stage, so everything here could be a 
total lie, as american 'yes, that really is my name' mcgee always likes to
put it. feel free to post this or upload to the net.

   send comments or additional information (with source and date) to
jschuur@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de. i'm still looking for the original
quake faq someone posted on a.g.d. a while back. i know 90 % of it was 
satire, but i'd like to have another look at it, so if you have it, let me
know please. thanks. for that matter, i'd like to get in touch with the
original author of the quake faq, since i'd like to start the (un)official
quake faq (unless he or hank leukart aren't interested).

   on a side note, you might want to check out my doom www page, which also
carries the newest copy of quaketalk. it can be reeched via mosaic, lynx or
any other browser at http://hp11.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de:2611/doom/doom.html.


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[the doom-editing mailing list:]
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   you'll see several references to the doom editing mailing list. this is
a mailing list on 'advanced doom editing' that john romero from id is on.
this is _not_ a quake discussion forum. we discuss all aspects of doom
editing (.exe hacks, wads, be it levels, music, sound, editor/utility writing
e.g.) if you would like to join, send mail to majordomo@nvg.unit.no with the
following in the body of the mail:

   subscribe doom-editing <your_email_adress>

   bare in mind that this is not a newbie forum. we like to keep the noise
down a bit, so please don't post unless it's of an advanced nature.


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[on version numbers:]
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   quaketalk is updated whenever i get new facts on quake. i'll increase
the version number according to how much the new stuff is. future versions
may include other segments on quake, maybe not just direct quotes from id
people. i'm open for suggestions, if there's something you want to see here,
let me know.
 
updates will carry a '> ' in the first collumn. these will be the updates
since the last copy. check out the version history at the end too. 


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[the magazine articles:]
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from the july '94 issue of computer gaming world (taken from the original
quake faq):

 SHAKIN' AND QUAKIN'

"What is the next huge leap?  They wouldn't say much, still in the idea 
phase and reluctant to build expectations too early, but they did tell
me thisthe name is Quake, the game engine is completely brand new, and
the 3D world will be so complete and characters will have depth, rather than
being flat sprites.  The current setting (notice I didn't say the evil
s-word, "story") is a fantasy world where the player becomes a Thor-like
being weilding a giant hammer, which he can throw at or bludgeon anything
that moves.  The world will have some real physics, so that characters will
tumble when when they fall from heights, and be knocked flat on their
backs.  As Romero was describing the multiplayer Quake of his imagination,
he was literally hopping out of his seat and pantomiming the violent drama
between two warrior gods, punctuating the action with sound effect (which
he is given to in most conversation).  If they can calm Romero down long
enough to get some work done, id hopes to start working on Quake in
September and a release date of Christmas '95."

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from johnr@idsoftware.com's .plan:

The next game is going to blow DOOM all to hell.  DOOM totally sucks
in comparison to our next game, QUAKEThe Fight for Justice!  QUAKE
is going to be a bigger step over DOOM than DOOM was over Wolf3D
(ya know -- DOOM = pong). We won't start developing QUAKE until Fall'94...

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from help@idsoftware.com's .plan:
on July 25th 6:14pm

This will not be out until sometime next summer.
John Carmack is currently designing the engine.
Multi-player should go something like this:
Someone owns a fast server somewhere. You dial in and join the
game in progress. Ten or more people at a time can be in the world.
You will not NEED a Pentium to play QUAKE. Everyone knows you don't
need one for DOOM either... but it doesn't hurt anything.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Fri, 5 Aug 94 11:38:19:

QUAKE will be totally externally programmable.  A planar surface (as opposed 
to line triggers, switches, etc.) will have an activation tag.  Anything with
a matching tag will contain the action that should be performed on itself.
Thus, walking on a certain surface with an activation tag will make the
program search the world for matching tags.  A match will make the program
check the object for the type of action to be done.  This allows one action
to affect many actions, i.e., walking into a large room can close the door 
behind you, turn the lights off, raise 5 staircases and release 10 monster
holding pens.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on  Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:25:53:

QUAKE will be EXTREMELY modular -- DOOM was just the tip-of-the-iceberg  
experiment.  We will be more cooperative than you can imagine -- how does  
uploading the QUAKE Server code sound?  That way, anyone could recompile
QUAKE for any super server system.

QUAKE is in true 3-D.  Not faked DOOM 2-D/ 3-D.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:56:23 (on sector tagged actions):

Total freedom.  Nothing will be hard coded into the executable.  More than  
likely, the action will be a TEXT descriptor that will match a function name
or somesuch.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:48 (on scanning for sector tags)

For speed, of course we'll be using index lookups.  I'm trying to describe the 
overall idea, not the actual implementation.  And depending on our long-range  
goals with QUAKE, we may not even use indexes if we want the gameworld to be  
continuously modifyable -- esp. for real-time multi-player connections where
a "god" person is building a new structure in the world where 100 people are  
playing at the same time as the level design in the level they're playing.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:48:

<Much programming structure and ideas deleted

Don't worry.  QUAKE will be done right.

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from ddt@idsoftare.com on Sun Aug  7 21:53 CDT 1994:
(credits to scott bessler (scott@grayfox.svs.com))

 ... I have a question about quake, you have been quoted
 as saying it'll support 100 players.

Not me, man.  That sounds like something Romero would say.  The
truth is that we have no clue how many players it will support
until we're done writing it.

The game will be well-geared to pay-for services where you have a nice
server like a medium-end workstation.  It will allow more users and
still offer smooth play.

The required line speed will depend on a lot of factors.  We'll
have no idea how fast it will need to be until we've coded it.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:09:21

QUAKE has gravity.  Down is down.

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from the doom-editing mailing list (doom-editing@nvg.unit.no)
on Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:59:20

In QUAKE, we're aiming for a total D&D fantasy adventure and, yes, there will  
be DRAGONS!  (We hope.  Remember, we could be lying. :)

That's how QUAKE will be programmed!  Not ONE SINGLE BIT of information will
be hard-coded -- everything's external!  We will supply a language compiler
for the C-type language that we'll use for QUAKE's external code modules.

id Software will NEVER AGAIN get ANY CODE programmed by an outside source (in  
DOOM, the only external id code was the sound code.)  We will program our own  
sound code, but are planning to use the VESA sound spec.

QUAKE will be client/server ONLY -- even a single-player QUAKE session will,
inreality, be a client/server setup with the client process and server process
residing in the same system.  We will make the setup as painless as possible.

QUAKE's shareware EXE will only work with the shareware version, unless you  
register (the client), in which case you will be able to play the registered  
version and all the WADs available.

Probably an oversight.  QUAKE will use NONE of DOOM's code.  Except for the  
memory zone allocation.  The WAD utilities will be revised.

QUAKE will run well on a Pentium, but a 486 is required.  It's just a notch up
from DOOM's requirements386 required, 486 recommended.

Hopefully, the initial shareware release will handle real dynamic maps.  id's  
QuakeNet will definitely have this ability.  We're hoping to start another  
small company that is a pure 24-hour QuakeFest! (Hey -- we want a piece of
the action, too!:)  It might be a couple dozen players modem-linked into a  
lightning-speed server, but we're really targeting QUAKE to be the first home  
cable game -- brought to you through your set-top box and played on your huge  
TV screen!

QUAKE's level editor is true 3-D. We've just started QuakeEd.

QuakeEd is using a real-time 3-D BSP generator.  It will be optimized.  BSPs  
are awesome tools -- they can be used in many different types of applications.
QUAKE will probably use a few different types of BSP trees.  The guy that  
invented BSPs visited us and taught Carmack even more shit.

QUAKE will not have 1 sprite in it -- all objects will be hi-res 3-D models.   
Texture-mapped polygons, but hi-res so they're not bad-looking.  Much better  
than Alone in the Dark's.

I didn't mention this before, but sound is a major integral part of the QUAKE  
design and, yes, you will be able to wear a headphone/microphone unit (which we
will also sell -- made by Koss) and speak to each other (over a LAN only) --  
but not as a headset comm.  You will be "speaking into" the game world, so the
closer you are to someone, the louder your voice is.  And the monsters have  
ears, too!

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from help@idsoftware.com's .plan:

Status of QUAKE---Updated: Tue, Aug 9th 11:38am

John now has a simple (slow) engine running. It uses converted
DOOM maps and runs them with flats for textures. It looks REALLY
cool.

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from johnr@idsoftware.com on thu 11, aug 94 12:25:59

the quake-by-cable will definatly won't be in the first release -- it's a
couple years away at the least :)

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>from jay wilbur on irc Wed Aug 24 21:35:32 MESZ 1994:

>'Quake is working. Carmack is testing the concepts.'
>'a quake faq...already? ... bitchin!' (on quaketalk ;)

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1.00 (early august) - first edition. i simply cut and pasted all the quake
                      quotes from romero and the .plan's in a file and
                      spiffed it up a bit.

1.01 (08/16/94)     - added credits to ddt's email about quake and changed 
                      the intro.

1.10 (08/22/94)     - added the magazine article section and the version
                      history.

1.11 (08/24/94)     - jayw's brief quake comment on irc added. 

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no outro yet. maybe next time ;)

-j

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