Archive-name: vegetarian/guide/other2 Last-modified: 7 Nov 1994 ______________________________________________________________________ rec.food.veg World Guide to Vegetarianism Other2 ______________________________________________________________________ The 14 parts of this guide contain a world list of vegetarian restaurants, vegetarian-friendly restaurants, natural food stores, vegetarian organizations, etc. Each part is posted on an independent schedule. The guide is available on WWW in easy-to-use hypertext format on the Vegetarian Pages at http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Vegetarian/ ** Please send us any new listings or corrections. ** The prefered way for you to send us updates is to use the forms on the above mentioned WWW site. E-mail updates gladly accepted also, but please format them in the same format as is used in this guide and keep comments and reviews short, simple, and straight to the point. The latest posted copy of the World Guide to Vegetarianism is also available via e-mail. For an index and instructions, send an e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the following line in the message body: send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/index The guide is also available via anonymous ftp from rtfm.mit.edu in the directory /pub/usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide. ______________________________________________________________________ Miscellaneous ______________________________________________________________________ This section has listings for the following: Airlines Cruise Ship Lines Rail Lines Internet Services ______________________________________________________________________ Airlines General Notes: - Vegetarian meals in Business Class are far better than the ones in Coach. - Most of the larger airlines also offer fruit plates. If you are doing several hops on one airline and order vegetarian on all of them, it is possible to get the same meal several times in one day. Air India - As in India, it is easy to get vegetarian food, but almost impossible to get vegan food. They normally carry extra vegetarian food. Air UK - Have vegan meals. Air Vanuatu - Seemed puzzled by the vegetarian meal request. ALM (Dutch Antilles) - Did well on the US-to-Netherland Antilles direction, but lost the meal on the Netherland-to-US leg. American Airlines - Really good about vegetarian meals. - Provide Vegan, Hindu Vegetarian, & Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian meals. - While the veg dinners were comparable in quality to the non-veg, I thought the breakfast was vastly superior: veg meal was fresh strawberries & pineapple, and a raisin bagel. - I thought that the vegetarian food tasted as good as airline food gets. It was a tomato-veg.-raisin-rice dish that was served with a salad and some bread. - Every veggie meal comes with a packet of honey, and a cup of nuts and raisins. British Airways - Good. The code for vegan meals is VGML. Cayman Air (Carribean) - Generally such a short flight that they only serve a rum punch. Good rum punch. Continental (US) - Continental airlines announced in the May 15, 1993 issue of FoodService Director that they have revamped their vegetarian menu. They now offer herbal tea and Edensoy beverages. Breakfast trays include: cranberry and nut filled tortillas, a vegetarian sausage pattie, and a pear and peach compote; Kashi (a hot grain cereal), nuts and raisins, scalloped potatoes, and a vegetarian raisin muffin; a raisin and nut filled tortilla; or a potato and scallion filled tortilla with a southwestern sauce, brown rice, and peanuts. Lunches/dinners include: a vegetarian meatless pattie (soy based) with Oriental glaze soy sauce and curried couscous medley; a grilled vegetarian pattie with tofu-stuffed shell, marinara sauce, and Italian green-bean medley; a stuffed baked potato shell with chili nut filling, tofu stuffed shells and provencale sauce; or a stuffed green pepper with chili beans, nuts, and chili sauce. - "The vegetarian meal (I think it was vegan, except for the salad dressing and margarine, maybe..) was excellent. Just top notch. It was a zippy vegetable dish, in a nice sause, just a little spicy. By far the best vegetarian meal I've ever had on a plane, and I fly quite a bit domestically in the cheap seats. Their new meals are quite good. - A result of their old vegetarian menu: "Vegan food is _wretched_. On most flights they serve just unseasoned cooked vegetables. They give you a miniscule pack of ground pepper and a miniscule pack of salt. They once served me a half-raw potato." | Cyprus Airways | - Repeat confirmation of vegetarian meal is essential. We forgot on | the way out and were offered a plate of raw vegetables, half a | cauliflower, a whole carrot, etc. We got it right coming back and | the food was better than the omnivores got. Main course appeared | vegan, plus yogurt, cheese and biscuits, and fresh fruit - but they | only have handy the exact number of vegetarian meals booked. Delta (US) - Vegetarian food is vegan by default. If you want ovo or lacto, you must specify it. The vegetarian food is consistently much better (more varied/interesting/quantity) than their regular offerings. Finnair - Provides reasonable vegetarian meals these days. Vegan meals can be requested as "vegetarian food which does not include eggs or milk products". This will be noted as SPML instead of the lacto-ovo VGML. They did very well on my last few flights. KLM - Good. Lufthansa - Suprised me by preparing a better vegetarian meal than I had anywhere in Germany (of course in Germany I mostly ate Italian food). - "with some airlines, their vegetarian meal seems to be their regular meal without the meat. But at Lufthanso, our chefs put as much care into our vegetarian offerings as they do our regular menu. Which means everything they use is of the highest quality, and is fresh, not frozen." Advertisement in May 17, 1993 issue of Fortune magazine. | - Attention: Lufthansa still believes (Summer 1994) that vegetarian | includes fish. If you fly with them, you'll have to be very specific | about your dietary requirements. Midwest Express (US) - Has very good vegan meals, but they really flaunt their leather seats. Monarch Airlines (UK) - Vegetarian and vegan options available. Vegan is reasonable but dry. They forget easily, so a reminder for each journey is prudent. | Northwest Airlines (US) - Vegan breakfasts: brown rice mix, fruit, buckwheat groats, croissant(?) (I don't think that they know what vegan really means.) Vegan lunch: tossed salad, stuffed pepper, fruit. Vegan dinner: tossed salad, millet and vegetable dinner, fruit. | - "Very incompetent. After ordering a vegetarian meal 2 weeks in | advance, and then confirming it 24 before the flight, you are | still likely to get a carniverous meal. The flight attendants have | attitude problems too." | - "Vegetarian breakfast was a large plate of fresh melon slices and | strawberries. Also from the a la carte regular breakfast I had a | banana, blueberry muffin, orange juice, and a box of dry cereal. | Milk and yogurt were also available. It was all you can eat except | for the melon plate which was veg special order. Snack later was | tempeh in a pita (I think). Good food." Quantas (Australian) - Great. Good service too. SAS (Scandinavian) - They don't care. They have a policy of not providing vegetarian meals on local (Scandinavian) and short (whatever that means, I guess it means European) flights. Elsewhere they offer in principle 4 possibilities - VLML, VGML, AVML, RVML (lacto, lacto-ovo, Asian, and raw). Singapore Airlines - Provide Vegan, Vegetarian, Indian Vegetarian, Chinese Vegetarian, Macrobiotic, and Low Fat Vegetarian meals. The food is excellent and simple. My best experience with airline food. Solomon Air - Seemed puzzled by the vegetarian meal request. Tan Sahsa (Honduras) - Didn't know what a veggie meal was (1991). Turkish Airlines - The one report I got on Turkish Airlines indicates that if you order a vegan meal in advance, you will get it. TWA - Vegetarian meals include: Breakfast: fresh fruit cup, brown rice with couscous, bran muffin. Lunch: vegetarian chili, vegetarian stuffed pepper, vegetable millet | bake, vegetarian casserole, curried vegetables. Includes fresh fruit | cup. U.S. Air - Only have one vegetarian option, but the diary is packaged separately. Food is edible, but not wonderful. Egg noodles sometimes served. Salad dressing seems to be always dairy based. United (US) - Claims to have many vegetarian options. Offers at least lacto-ovo and vegan meals. If you forget to order your vegetarian meal in advance, you may still be able to get a very nice fruit plate in flight. - Does a good job with veggie meals; they serve curried grain patties, rice-stuffed peppers, etc. Be careful when ordering Hindu meals; if you don't specify Hindu Vegetarian, you get chicken. ______________________________________________________________________ Cruise Ship Lines Thanks to the Vegetarian Resource Group for much of the following information. Carnival - Special dietary requests must be made at least two weeks prior to departure. Travelers are also advised to talk to their waiter about special instructions for preparing menu items. Lowfat menu items are flagged on each menu. Two vegetarian options are noted on their dinner menus but not for breakfast or lunch. The vegetarian dinner menu includes pear nectar, cream of asparagus soup, sliced cucumber and Belgium endive in lemon dressing, vegetable brochette on pilaf rice, vegetable accompaniments, assorted cheese. Celebrity/Fantasy - There is a vegetarian menu which changes daily. Sample entrees include vegetable strudel, vegetables tempura, vegetarian casserole in puff pastry with cheese sauce, and pasta with vegetables. For further information call (800) 437-6111. Cunard - No special menus are offered to vegetarians, but the cruise line can accommodate almost any special dietary request with at least thirty days notice prior to departure. For further information call (800) 223-0764. Princess - Princess now offers a vegetarian menu. Vegetarian options for lunch include spring vegetables vinaigrette, chilled zucchini bisque, three bean salad, noodles with tomato sauce and basil, banana bread. Sample vegetarian items available during dinner include broiled grapefruit with rum and raisins, chilled banana and papaya soup, mushroom and barley soup, mixed green salad with dressing, vegetable pojarksy (breaded, mixed vegetable patty) with cheese sauce, spinach flan with cream sauce, assorted vegetables. For further information call (800) 527-6200. Royal Caribbean - Vegetarian lunch and dinner menus are being introduced aboard their nine-ship fleet. The Monarch of the Seas has separate vegetarian menus. Several items are flagged as lowfat on each menu. Vegetarian options are usually ovo-lacto, but can be modified to be vegan. Sample vegetarian items on their meatless lunch menu include melon cocktail, chilled strawberry bisque, fresh vegetables, vegetable soup, cauliflower garden salad, tropical fruit platter, sherbet, tortellini calabrese, Hawaiian croissant sandwiches. Sample vegetarian dishes on their meatless dinner menus include spaghetti Alfredo style with julienne of fresh vegetables, grilled plum tomatoes, steamed broccoli, chilled cantaloupe soup, tempura fried broccoli and eggplant garnished with snow peas, and Oriental noodles served with a sweet and sour sauce. For further information call (800) 852-3268. ______________________________________________________________________ Rail Lines Amtrak (US) - Amtrak always has Nile Spice vegetarian soup mixes (many are vegan), carrot sticks, cheese pizza, and granola bars. On long distance trips they also offer dry cereal & bagels for breakfast; a fettucine dish with tomato and basil, light alfredo, or primavera sauce for lunch; and a vegetarian (never vegan) entree at dinner. British Rail - Make sandwiches. Book seats far from the *very* smelly burgers in the restaurant carriage. ______________________________________________________________________ Internet Services ______________________________________________________________________ This section has listings for the following: USENET Newsgroups Gopher Mailing Lists Information via E-Mail World Wide Web Internet Relay Chat Anonymous FTP Many thanks to Bobbi Pasternak, who's compiling a list of online resources for the Vegetarian Resource Group, and to Geraint 'Gedge' Edwards, our European listings coordinator, for posting much of the below information on rec.food.veg. If you know of any other Internet vegetarian resources, please send them to Bobbi Pasternak and to myself, Mark Wisdom . ______________________________________________________________________ USENET Newsgroups rec.food.veg - Posting/discussion of all vegetarian related subjects. rec.food.veg.cooking - A moderated newsgroup for the posting/discussion of vegetarian recipes, cooking information, nutrition, and other non-ethical information. talk.politics.animals - Posting/discussion of animal rights related subjects. | alt.food.fat-free | - Posting/discussion related to fat-free foods/diet. Not entirely | vegetarian. ______________________________________________________________________ Mailing Lists Many mailing lists are available in two formats: regular and digest. In the regular format, you get an e-mail for every message posted. This is typically between 5 and 50 e-mails per day. In digest format, you get one e-mail per day containing all the postings for the previous 24 hours. Vegan-L - A mailing list for vegans and aspiring vegans. To subscribe, send an e-mail to listserv@templevm.bitnet with the following in your message body: sub vegan-l For the digest option, also add the following line: set vegan-l digest VegLife - Used to be called Granola. To subscribe, send an e-mail to listserv@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu with the following in your message body: sub veglife For the digest option, also add the following line: set veglife digest Veggie - For the discussion of any aspect of vegetarianism, vegetarian lifestyle, or anything relevant to vegetarians. To subscribe, send an e-mail to veggie-request@maths.bath.ac.uk with the following in your message body: sub veggie For the digest option, also add the following line: set veggie digest | VegCMTE | - For people who want to volunteer time to help VegLife keep up to | date with journals, information files, recipes, etc. Also for those | who want to work with their local vegetarian organizations, or who | want to start their own. Contact Chuck Goelzer | for more info. Veg-Cook - A mailing list where vegetarian cooks can exchange ideas and techniques. Subscribers also receive all posts to rec.food.veg.cooking. To subscribe, send an e-mail to listserv@netcom.com with the following in your message body: sub veg-cook For the digest option, also add the following line: set veg-cook digest Veggies - For British vegetarian events/matters. Remarkably quiet. To subscribe, send an e-mail to: veggies-request@ncl.ac.uk with the following in your message body: sub veggies Availability of digest option is unknown to me. FatFree - Intended for anyone following an extremely lowfat vegetarian diet, including followers of McDougall and Ornish. Only vegetarian recipes are permitted. The focus here is on the health and nutrition aspects of such diets, not ethical and ecological concerns. To subscribe, send an e-mail to fatfree-request@hustle.rahul.net with one of the following two subject lines: ADD ADD DIGEST BA-FatFree Chicago Area FatFree - There are also local off-shoots of the FatFree mailing list for the San Francisco Bay Area and for the Chicago area. These discuss local issues and arrange get-togethers and potlucks. To subscribe to BA-FatFree, send an e-mail to ba-fatfree-request@hustle.rahul.net with "subscribe" in the message body. To subscribe to the Chicago area list, write lee@bio-3.bsd.uchicago.edu or ekatman@midway.uchicago.edu for more details. | Southern Ontario Vegetarian Mailing List | - A list to discuss issues local to Southern Ontario, Canada, and to | arrange get-togethers, restaurant outings, potlucks, etc. To | subscribe, send your request to ontveg-request@csd.uwo.ca. MaxLife - A list for those working toward a positive, healthy life style while at the same time choosing to avoid heavy consumerism. It is for people who choose their activities with careful consideration to the pleasure they bring as well as all their costs. To subscribe, send an e-mail to: listserv@gibbs.oit.unc.edu with the following in your message body: sub maxlife For the digest option, also add the following line: set maxlife digest Macrobiotic - A list on macrobiotics. To subscribe, send an e-mail to macrobiotic-request@veda.is with the following in your message body: sub macrobiotic Availability of digest option is unknown to me. AR-Talk - A mailing list for the discussion of animal rights. Part of the Animal Rights Electronic Network (AREN). To subscribe, send an e-mail to ar-talk-request@cygnus.com with the following in your message body: sub ar-talk Availability of digest option is unknown to me. AR-News - Related to AR-Talk. To subscribe, send an e-mail to (?) ar-news-request@cygnus.com with the following in your message body: sub ar-news Availability of digest option is unknown to me. | AR-SFBay | - News and announcements relating to animal rights and | vegan/vegetarian issues and events for the greater San Francisco Bay | area. Info on demonstrations, potlucks, presentations, and local | news on animal issues. To subscribe, send an e-mail to | listproc@mellers1.psych.berkeley.edu with the following in your | message body: | sub ar-sfbay | Availability of digest option is unknown to me. | SNARE | - Students Networking for Animal Rights Everywhere. A network of | students involved with animal rights issues working to build | alliances with other students around the world. To subscribe, send | an e-mail to owner-soar-list@ucs.indiana.edu. ______________________________________________________________________ World Wide Web (WWW) | Vegetarian Pages | http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Vegetarian/ | - The main index to vegetarian resources on the Internet. The home for | hypertext documents relating to vegetarianism, including the | hypertext version of the World Guide to Vegetarianism. Links to many | other Internet archives dealing with vegetarianism. | Vegetarian Society UK (VSUK) | http://www.uel.ac.uk/~leamy/vegsoc.html | http://www.uel.ac.uk/~leamy/ | - Contains (soon) the entire collection of VSUK infosheets. | Veggies Unite! | http://jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/recipes/ | - A searchable index of over 900 vegetarian recipes. Has links to many | nutrition and health sites. | English Server Recipes Folder | http://english-server.hss.cmu.edu/Recipes.html - Although not entirely vegetarian, much of it is vegetarian recipes. There are links to the Fat-Free archives and a few others. This | server can also be reached via gopher and ftp. | Vegetarians International Voice for Animals (Viva!) | http://www.uel.ac.uk/~leamy/viva.html | - Accessible through the Vegetarian Society UK WWW page. | Animal Rights Resource Site (ARRS) | http://www.gate.net/~dgraft/ | - In addition to animal rights related material, this site also has | articles, newsletters, and electronic pamphlets from the Vegetarian | Resource Group, and other vegetarian material. The best time to use | this site is during the North American day time, it tends to get | slow at night. | Animal Defense Network (ADN) | http://orca.envirolink.org/elink/adn.html | - Some vegetarian and vegan resources. Part of the EnviroLink Network. | Rice Vegetarian Club | http://riceinfo.rice.edu/~bartelt/rvc/rvc.html | MIT Vegetarian Support Group | http://www.mit.edu:8001/activities/vsg/home.html | WPI Vegetarian Society | http://www.wpi.edu:8080/~veggies/ | Triangle Vegetarian Society, North Carolina, USA | http://www.trinet.com/tonc/tvspage.html | - Includes Triangle area restaurant reviews. | Midland Harvest Burgers | http://emall.com/Harvest/Harvest1.html | - Nothing special, except that you can buy Midland Harvest burgers | and other products from this site. If you do not have access to www (typical www browsers are Mosaic, lynx, and www) but have access to telnet, then you can use www by telneting to a public www client, two of which are gopher.msu.edu | and info.cern.ch. You can also telnet to www.njit.edu and log in as | 'www'. ______________________________________________________________________ Anonymous FTP When FTPing to an anonymous FTP site, use the userid 'anonymous' and then enter your e-mail address for the password, | VegLife | cadadmin.cadlab.vt.edu:/VEGLIFE - Several thousand vegetarian/vegan/fatfree recipes. Vegetarian FAQs, information files, discussion archives, etc. | - Userid 'vegan' and password 'guest' also work. (128.173.53.239) flubber.cs.umd.edu:/other/tms/veg - Several dozen vegetarian related articles, including the ADA's position paper on the vegetarian diet, statements by the Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine, and an array of files related to Jeremy Rifkin's book, "Beyond Beef". - Will soon no longer be available. Vegetarian Resource Group Archives, 2 sites: ftp.geod.emr.ca:/pub/Vegetarian/Articles ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de:/pub/doc/vegetarian - VRG articles, newsletters, and pamphlets in electronic form. - 'The Vegetarian Game', an IBM-PC game by the VRG, is available from ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de. FatFree Recipe Archive, 2 sites: geod.emr.ca:/pub/Vegetarian ftp.halcyon.com:/pub/recipes - Large and growing archive of very lowfat and fatfree vegetarian recipes. Recipes range from simple to complex, easy to gourmet, mild to hot. There are recipes from cultures all around the world: Caribbean, Eastern European, South American, mainstream American and so on. Indian cuisine is particularly well-represented in the collection. All the recipes are strictly vegetarian and contain no added fat and very little high-fat ingredients. Yet, the variety is astounding. mthvax.cs.miami.edu:/recipes/vegan - Perhaps a mirror of the VegLife site but with some differences. ftp.uu.net:/usenet/rec.food.recipes/vegan - Vegan recipes. cs.ubc.ca:/ftp/local/RECIPES/VEGETARIAN - Vegetarian recipes in Tex format. | news.answers Archives | rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/vegetarian | - news.answers archive site. Contains the latest officially posted | copies of the World Guide to Vegetarianism and the rec.food.veg FAQ. | bitnic.educom.edu:/nicbbs.391 | - Recipes. The recipes have a filename VEG_RECI and a filetype of | either DIGEST, INDEX, or VOLxxxxx. | SunSite Archives | sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare | calypso-2.oit.unc.edu:/pub/academic/medicine/alternative-healthcare | - Vegetarian recipes can be found under | general/nutrition/recipes.and.general-info/. Archives of | rec.food.veg.cooking, and a few other newgroups can be found under | discussion-groups/newsgroups/. Also text files that may be of | interest to vegetarians. SunSite is also accessible via Gopher, | WWW, WAIS, telnet, and ftpmail. ______________________________________________________________________ Gopher | english-server.hss.cmu.edu | - Look under 'Recipes'. See listing under World Wide Web, above. gopher.micro.umn.edu | - Archives of rec.food.recipes. Look under 'Fun & Games', 'Recipes'. | 4 vegetarian subdirectories of recipes: vegan, lacto, ovo, and | ovo-lacto. | usda.mannlib.cornell.edu - USDA gopher site containing Lotus 123 spreadsheet format data regarding various kinds of farm production, food consumption, etc. A good place to verify some of the statistics used in arguments for vegetarianism. If you do not have access to gopher, but have access to telnet, then you can use gopher by telneting to a public gopher client, two of which are gopher.msu.edu and panda.uiowa.edu. ______________________________________________________________________ Information by E-Mail The World Guide to Vegetarianism | - For instructions on getting the latest officially posted copy of | this guide via e-mail, send an e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu | with the following line in your message body: | send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/guide/index The rec.food.veg Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Listing - For the latest officially posted copy of the rec.food.veg FAQ, send an e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the following line in your message body: send usenet/news.answers/vegetarian/faq The FatFree Recipe Archive - To get started, send the message "help" to archive-server@halcyon.com. See listing under FTP sites below for more info. All requests are sent out compressed and uuencoded. | SunSite FTP by E-Mail Service | - Will FTP stuff from any site for you via e-mail. Send an e-mail to | ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu with 'help' in the message body for | instructions. See 'Anonymous FTP Sites' above for examples of what | is available. ______________________________________________________________________ Internet Relay Chat (IRC) | Two vegetarian discussion channels on IRC are '#veggies' and '#vegan'. | Geraint 'Gedge' Edwards maintains a server/robot on #veggies called | 'VeganSrv' which maintains the channel when he's not on so that interested folks can get information on vegetarianism. Gedge is usually on in the (GMT) afternoons. #veggies has about 3 or 4 people chatting at times. Channels are created when people join them, so if you join '#veggie', and not '#veggies', you are not likely to see anyone else. On IRC, people are known by their nicknames, so you must choose one with the 'nick' command. You can access IRC via the 'irc' client program. If you don't have it available on your system, then you should be able to find it at your local friendly FTP site (archie searches on 'ircII' should show you where to find it). Alternately you can telnet to a public IRC client (such as irc.demon.co.uk). A typical session may include the following example commands: /nick MyNickname /join #veggies /who #veggies (to see who is on #veggies) /whois gedge (to see info about Gedge, if he's currently on) /msg gedge argh! (to ask Gedge for help, if he's currently on) /quit All command lines must be prefixed with a '/'. Anything not prefixed by a '/' will be sent to your current channel for all participants to see! ______________________________________________________________________