How to Get Telegard to Work in Desqview ======================================= By Drizzt--sysop of The Underdark...416-255-5422 assitant Netop---Ultralink 20:100/3 Master of Trade Wars... *-New Release as of March 22,1992 UpDate-see end of file CHANGES SINCE 2.7 Update...(if u read dvtgset3.txt...then just read this intro for new updates...if not read the WHOLE DAMN THING) INTRO FOR NEW RELEASE--new shit since last version... 1.Graphical Games like wing commader 2 will run..but not at full speed and not to enjoyable..plus it must be crawling on the board with all the disk access.. 2.To avoid memory problems with the board swapping to ems...i suggest u disable all ems to the board...and if u run the board locally put it as blank (the maximum ems setting on the second page of "change a program") as i ran into a problem when say i swapped out..then the user did..and when i tried to swap back..out of memory...disk error...since i did the above all my problems were solved... 3.From what i have been told...BNU seems to work..but not for me...so if u want u can try it..but id just as much stick to x00.sys....as it works fine.. 4.To obtain a specific Telegard callback validator execution file that will work in desqview..without having to be on the current board window..call me at my board 255-5422 and i will GIVE it to u free..... 5.Remeber if u run front door...try and avoid having any exit's in your batch files...as desqview will close task windows on that command..ANNOYING>>hehe a a sysop told me about that..so id thought id mention it.. 6.Unless u have something called a Uart chip hooked up to your modem's comport...u will cause errors in downloads and uploads if u run a HIGH SPEED modem...for normal 2400's and 1200's its ok...as well as for straight conn- ects at sat 9600 or 14.400...but any errorcorrection will not work well unless the above condition exists... 7.Remember occasional crashes and stuff arnt lets say as remote as to if u werent running desqview..this is ok..if u go away...for a while and no one is using the computer...the leave it out of desqview.. 8.If u have problems with the setting up feel free to call my board the number is all over this file....also ..member i cant tell what shit u got loading up on start up..so the only way to know for sure is to callme and i can help u with shit(mainly cleaning up config.sys and autoexec.bat, as these two seem to be the most common places of problems...) number once again is 255-5422.. 9.More as soon as Learn!!! Thanks a lot..and i appreciate the compliments i get on writing this file not that it took a lot outta me..hehe..later.. Drizzt ANYTHING AFTER THIS HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION 3..(DVTGSET3.txt) SO IF U DID NOT READ VERSION 3...read on....(any changes to the main bulk of the file were documented in the above intro u just read....) Ok Folks this file is not guaranteed to work nor do can i guarantee it to work....All im doing is trying to help out those too lazy to figure this out by themselves... I as i write this help file assume that u are using Desqview 2.42 or higher and Qemm 6.2, as this is what i use and it works for me....I also am assuming u have at least a 386..and two megs of Ram.....also remember this is on how to get the two to work together, so i will not explain how to set qemm up...this is for u to do.... 1.WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO AND WHY.... -------------------------------------- First off....this is from my heart...without the desqview..i would not run a board..no way...this allows me to have full access to my computer with a remote caller online...it will allow u to do more and more depending on your type of computer, its ram capabilities as well as dos you are using...currently this works fine on dos 4.1(5.0 is better)..and i assume higher...With Two Megs(Dont bother with one) u will be able to call up the bbs...and run it and do many things run Vga games.. word processors...even run tg locally.....and trust me it isø worth it...it is the best...We do this for the sole purposeø of being able to do other things....while the board is up..and thus keep the bbs up when u want to do things....and also allow u to work on the board while the bbs is up.... 2.WHAT TO EXPECT AND NOT TO EXPECT ---------------------------------- These instructions will allow u to get your tg board up and running...while being able to run other programs..this of course depending on if u set up qemm right ,etc...Do not expect theø following if u have 2 megs or less 1.Memory consuming games such as Wing Commander 2 will run... but at the expense of losing board speed as well as game speed.... er....this is the bare minimum memory required and therefore... u will be able to run useful programs...but most games will run i have found out....u have to make sure there is memory..expanded available.. 2.To get more memory from this setup...load the board task last....as your first task is given more memory alwayss... 3.Warning...Some games will try and access the comport...there fore as u load them or what have u...it will not answer or freeze....i recommend u avoid not using these while the board is up...there arent many that do it....and it seems it is not necessarily the higher memory leeching games that do this... 4.when someone uses the callback validator on your board uø must be on the task for the bbs when it searches and updatesø the users information...otherwise it will read a disk error..thisø is due to the way the validator is programmed to actually drawø from the keyboard....thus it would be like trying to pressø keys for the bbs when the local is not even on the bbs....itø is self explanatory.... 4.Be prepared for a delay when tasking..especially on the board..Ä the users will find the movement slightly jerky and slower...this is also sped up when u have less tasks up....the more tasksø u have up...and the smaller amount of ram you have will resultø in a slower moving bbs.. HOW TO SET IT UP ---------------- Making sure that all your desqview files are in desqview goø into desqview.dir and make a batch file called bbs.bat(or whateveÄ r) and put these commands into it... cd\dv(or whatever your dv directory is called dvansi(this is a must or your ansi will not work in dv) cd\bbs(or the batch that calls your bbs or front door) bbs or dv...or what ever u usually...call... 1.Then go into desqview....typing dv in the dv directory...andø then go to add a program....hit "not in the list" and callø it what u called your bat..the path being c:\dv\ i assume forø ease and the program being called....bbs.bat....once u haveø done that.....go down....and alter the options so that it saysø yes to virtualize the graphics..yes to display text informationø and 1 or 2 depending on which serial port you are using...thenø for more options..here is what u change...all else leave itø alone as in this sysops mind it is unnecessary... Also asø the bbs is big i suggest...500 system memory....it will runø under less...but i had problems......with it...so i put itø up...you will run out of memory in the worst possible timesø if u do not heed my advice..when running a door, calling anø external protocol....also i doubt that u will need to enableø a floppy... Hit F1 for these options...only the ones i list should be changed.... Can be swapped out?--No..if u leave this at yes...the programø will swap out of the bbs....which will screw up the modem init..ø as well as freezing the screen...this function will disableø it and will not let the bbs task be swapped out..when u runø out of memory available...you will be told that it cant beø swapped out....thus the program u are trying to run is to big.. Uses its own colors--Yes...Put this on...otherwise the ansiø u enabled to be used in desqview with the dvansi command will go to waste....this is simple enuff.. Share EGA- I dunno if this was set to yes or no...but i setø it to yes and it works..so u do it too... Maximum Expanded memory-i would leave this at zero if u want to run games that use it with the bbs....otherwise use put it to as much as u have....u will find that u can access programs while the bbs is swapped (ie online game) if expanded is being used.... Runs in Background-For the bbs (telegard) yes for sure...for any other game or program other than a regular text or bbs thing...no...the graphic stuff seems to screw up when u leave it running in the background..it hangs..etc... When u are done that....it is almost ready...but not quite....theø next and final set up options are accessed...via the dv directoryø and by hitting set-up.....these options i changed through trialø and error..and they work for me as u see them...so if theyø dont work on you...i dunno...but they should...but rememberø this is the way it works for me....so...im only passin on info dat works ... Hit setup in dv directory and go to the performance section... now this section is the most important as this is where iø had to screw around to get it to work.. ok change the default settings to Task Processing Time: foreground-3 background-3 Common Memory-20 Dos Ems Buffers-5 Go to Video Display...only if u wish to play graphics(VGA)and have the board up... Display text and graphics at the same time? - if u try and load a game and this said yes...i found the bbs hung...if u say no..it is fine...note..i donnot suggest virtualzing graphics if u wanna run the graphic tasks and the bbs...for the most part the games dont like it....u will find some games dont even like the idea of switching to chat...nways... all others should stay the same....the optimize communicationsø should be enabled......and the others are at your discretion NOTE: You must go into the keyboard section of the setup and change the little l on a line by itself or u will have to double pump the little whenever u have to use it... CONCLUSION ---------- That is it...it should work...althought it might not...i amø always looking for ways to make it better...but...this is notø the easiest...if u find any better or more efficient ways toø do this please phone my bbs and let me know...this could sound totally wrong...but it works find for me...at least...hereø is some things to be wary off..if u have two megs or less I have found that since switching to dos 5.0...and finding a discrepancy in my config and autoexec.bat, i have been able to a whole lot more....run the bbs locally fully...as well as play all the onliners...except some of them that i think interfere with the comport..i dunno...anyways...i have a 386 33mghz system with 2 megs of ram...and i can load the bbs fully switch to a dos task (just the dos prompt, called big dos) and when i hit mem..it says my largest executable program size is 549900(566680 when not virtualized ...that is asskicking making this file even better...please note that i have tried many combos and do not hesitate to attempt some different settings..if u do and it makes the thing perform better ..please tell me..so as it stands...all the file that is unchanges..as this is actually the third release...stands..and works...just remember....im saying u can get a shitload more outta of it..than i previously thought..sorry... I have been told that it is possible to actually corrupt aø file if u log onto the bbs and execute the same command atø he exact same time as the user...i dunno..but this could happenø so avoid doing things at the same time.... Well there u have it...i may have missed stuff...this willø b added later.....but for now dat is..it..once u get this thingø going....u will never want to run a bbs without it...and rememberø here is some incentive..... i had 5 users on here while i didø this....heh...anyways i really hope i helped..and if i did..callø my board and tell me.... TG 2.7 UPDATE-- Since converting to 2.7....i have found that there are some conflicts in the way it was reprogrammed....through trial and error...myself and others found that there was a conflict with the fossil driver bnu.sys and bnu.com...what was occuring was when the bbs swapped out to either a door or a callback validator...it was giving a qemm error, a few actually(#12,13 and #200)...this was occuring and thus freezing the board.....we found the new version of x00.sys perfect...and it did indeed seemed to solve the problem.. The only other thing i will say about the new tg...it seems that u may have to add on the second page of the bbs task...u may have to add some system memory this memory is reserved for dv specific..and once or twice i got an error here that asked me to do this..so i just followed the directions... if u ever run into a problem with the amount of files...say when entering trade wars...just add more to your config.sys and reboot...remeber u are doing more than most.....so it will take more trying..and there isnt always an easy answer if any one else can add to this please do.... Drizzt-Feb 20,1991