Copyright 1994(c) THE BIG BANG By Michael Burton Los Angeles Times October 12, 1994 [Publisher's Note: In the 1960 ashes of bras and draft cards; peace and love, a promontory of 'tune-in, turn-on, drop-out' lethargy may well have stemmed a second full-scale American revolution. In his own words, former C.I.A. Director, William Casey, explains how it was necessary to protect an America that roiled against lingering resentment over the Viet Nam War, from insurrection within. The National Guard killed college kids at Kent State, Jesse Jackson railed, and muu-muu sales skyrocketed as young people everywhere went to San Francisco, driving Volkswagen vans and wearing flowers in their hair. Casey spoke candidly to reporter, Leslie Calvert, about the events of those times, with the stipulation that his words not be published for a given period after his death. Calvert's questions and Casey's answers are depicted by "Q" and "A" below, in this first installment of "Stoned in Sacramento."] STONED IN SACRAMENTO Dateline: Los Angeles, California By Leslie Calvert William Casey was smaller than I remembered him from news clips. His demeanor, formerly hesitant, was self-effacing, -- almost timid, as he reclined in a rocking chair, one hand absent- mindedly stroking the ears of his golden lab, Addie. Casey spent the immediate period following his departure from government service in a Washington townhouse, with Addie his only companion, taking daily walks and communicating with family and friends through a computer modem. In the last weeks and months of his life, Casey was an active member of several electronic bulletin boards. He daily downloaded, read and responded to messages in a variety of conferences, under the assumed name of Arthur Wise. Q: "Wise is a provocative choice of names. Was there a bit of irony in that?" A. "No, I didn't think of it at the time, although more than one conference participant made that point when I expressed an opinion which was considered radical." Q: "Did you often find yourself doing so?" A. "Surprisingly, no. There is very little opinion of import afoot today, and my participation, most frequently, is in response to something intellectually stimulating I may happen to read." Q: "Nonetheless, you did find yourself engaged in a highly investigative retrospective of 60's mania with more than one BBS user in a conference called "Politics" shortly after you acquired this hobby, didn't you?" A: "It's always surprising how verbal the most ill-informed people seem to be. But yes, I engaged in an ongoing exchange for about six months with several conference participants." Q: "And it was during that debate that you made the comment that resulted in a deluge of telephone calls to television stations across the country, and is the subject of our interview?" A: "So it would seem." Q: "According to our sources, you stated in those exchanges that in the 1960s, it was government policy to quell rising unrest in the public sector with an administration-sponsored reintroduction into society of certain leisure drugs; notably cocaine, heroin, LSD, hallucinogenics, tranquilizers and marijuana. Your premise was that these drugs were not only injected into society in a deliberate, wide-spread campaign; but that this reintroduction was effected from some of the highest offices in the land, up to and perhaps including then United States President, Richard Nixon." A: "It was not my representation that former President Nixon's full cabinet had knowledge or awareness of the drug war being waged by certain appointees. President Nixon, who sometimes projected himself as too much a conformist to fully comprehend the extremity of the measures taken in the name of his administration, was far more instrumental than history will reflect." Q: "But the premise remains the same, does it not? What you suggest is that the governmental body as a whole, either with hands-on duplicity, or through a studied policy of don't ask/don't tell posture, deliberately drugged the populous, with specific intent to keep them compliant and orderly?" A: "No." Q: "No? A number of participants in the electronic conference where you reportedly espoused these views might beg to offer a different impression." A. "Impressions are a lot like opinions. What I said then, and what I say now, is that there is no question of removed deliberation in the actions of the late 1960's administration of Richard Nixon. The decisions made, and actions taken, were made and taken with the informed knowledge and approval of that President. Disseminating his sole responsbility to a group of political advisers or government officials is misleading. "This was Nixon's baby, and he rocked it. Policy meetings occurred on the highest levels to determine the best method of disbursement of illegal drugs, and the most effective drug for its intended purpose, i.e., stifling any revolution, which was then perceived as imminent." Q: "So, you are saying that this was all done with the full knowledge and blessing of the President of the United States?" A: "Yes." Q: "And that his aides, appointees, political peers in such countries as Russia, France, Germany, -- his friends and family, -- all were aware that he was advocating and assisting in the distribution of illegal drugs to maintain Democratic stability and legislative credibility?" A. "Yes, at his instigation." Q: "What advance planning, if any, was done to counteract the potential addiction, and derivative acts of crime and violence which might result?" A. "There were a series of policy meetings between international heads of State, as well as a weekly meeting of cabinet officials, spin doctors, political financiers, high-ranking police officials, and Chiefs of Staff of the Armed Forces, wherein data was collected, reports generated and strategy plotted." Q: "You're saying Big Brother, in the guise of Richard Nixon, was in the driver's seat?" A: "And Big Brother still is." Q: "How do you perceive the almost-but-not-quite commencement of the 1960 people's revolution, in retrospect?" A. "It was like the Stones called it. -- Just a shot away." -30- [The foregoing is a verbatim excerpt of Leslie Calvert's taped conversations with former C.I.A. Director, William Casey, recorded shortly before his death.] END