Date: Monday, October 11, 1993 8:08am /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Msg#: 381884 To: ML@CBR {MBBS: Countzero} Re: RIP Platforms > As for systems like the amiga I seem to remember that most MOD files > that I can play on my soundblaster came from the AMIGA in the 1st place. Yeah, but the thing is, the Amiga doesn't use analog samples built into a chip, that's why MODs are always so big, they are all seperate digital samples, included in the MODule. When you play them on your SB, you computer's CPU has to "play" those samples internally and mix them with the other three (mods only have four channels, because of the Amiga), then it plays them out of your singal digital channel. The amiga has 4 channels, which means that there is no proccessor overhead (I can raytrace and play mods at the same time, with no noticeable slowdowns). But, when RIP2.0 with sound comes out, it will most likely not use digital samples, it will use the samples built into your SB chip, which are not built into the Amiga. This is okay, as long as RIP2.0 does not support more than 4 sounds at once, becuase the Amiga would be able to play them (we could just record the samples of a SB), but the SoundBlaster is able to play 10 (or is it 12) of these internal samples at once, which the Amiga couldn't keep up with, unless we weigh down our proccessors mixing all the samples into 1 channel, which would be a --- Sent via MailLink, 10-OCT-93, 09:36:34, from: (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Monday, October 11, 1993 8:11am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: The Dark One} Msg#: 381893 To: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Re: Anyone heard anything about (N)ext, (P)revious, follow (T)hread, or (R)ead this message? SY>On the subject of Anyone heard anything abo, Ml@stl {mbbs: The Dark On SY>wrote... SY>> SY>>I dont know. There is one strange thing about the spreading of SY>>RIPscrip. It seems to be REALLY REALLY common in some places, and SY>>REALLY REALLY uncommon in others. Out here in St.Louis there arent that SY>>many RIP boards at ALL, and quite a few RoboBoards. I think if they SY>>start taking territories there might be a chance that RIP will slowly be SY>>defeated... SY> I think that will change. There used to be a few ROBO systems here SY>and they all failed miserably... SY> I think some of your fellow sysops there will be using rip real SY>soon now. Roman Empire and Wendy's Dungeon should be installed any day SY>from what I hear. Course thats just two of many, but I am 300 miles away SY>and news travels slowly... alone... im not speaking of original robo, though. Im talking about Tel-FX. Completely different program. Personally, I beleive my spersonal custom protocoll will defeat all. I was simply asking a question: Do you think that programs such as MajorBBS and the even larger population of TBBS systems will incorporate the Tel-FX protocol? SY>Sent via MailLink, 09-OCT-93, 07:14:18, from: Also, Rip is ANCIENT. From what I heard and have seen, RIPscrip has no real good resolution. All I have seen is EGA 16 color... Tel FX is 256 color 640x480/1024x768 with GIF and JPEG viewing. --- Sent via MailLink, 10-OCT-93, 06:01:40, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Monday, October 11, 1993 8:14am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 381903 To: ML@TAH {MBBS: SYSOP} Re: My ripterm v.1.54 Quit Quoting the highlights from Ml@tah {mbbs: Sysop} : ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³ Ron, sounds great! But you lost me on the "incoming globals" ³part. Do you mean like chat requests or logons? If so, how do we ³accomplish this. Thanks. SYSOP@TAH ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Hi again, glad to have helped! Yes, that's exactly what I mean, while the BBS is throwing a lot off "one liners" to the user, which normally flow across a 24 line screen, it's a lot harder for them to follow all of them in just three or four lines of the ANSI window in RIP. What I did was creating a bar in RIP which always apears on the same spot on the every RIP screen (in a nice screenwide button on top). What I did then is hunt down all the oneliners in the *.MSG files and put them in a buttonbar (as described above) together with a beep or a phaser. Now all the messages like logons, pages, new up/download etc appear in this topbar instead of scrolling through the ANSI "keyhole". Tessier's and Prostar both sell the STER BBS RIP Collection disk, which buttons for the oneliners. Just get this disk and you'le see exactly how I did it and what the very proffesional result can be. Talk to ya later, Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Majornet: Musicman@STR Internet: Ronhart@sterbbs.nl --- Sent via MailLink, 10-OCT-93, 11:43:16, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Monday, October 11, 1993 5:35pm /RIP From: ML@PRO {MBBS: Cleaver} Msg#: 382298 To: ML@NUC {MBBS: NOTORIOUS A Re: Re: ARENA and rip Please send the article. I am in the midst of deciding which GUI formats to use and knowing the upcoming version of RIP would be helpful. --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 07:34:38, from: (PRO) ** ProStar Plus ** - 206-941-0317 Auburn, WA Home of MailLink & MajorNet Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:06am /RIP From: ML@PBB {MBBS: Snowdog} Msg#: 383886 To: ** ALL ** Re: `h and stuff HI , I noticed that the `H is in a few screens. How is that different than using the `M for enter. I still can't find many of the generic screens, like the rip screen that is used for Tele_conference, and the one used when you first get into the LIBRARY menu. PLEASE HELP! --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 09:47:00, from: (PBB)--==** Point Blank **==-- - (516) 371-9643 Huntington Station, Long Island Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:06am /RIP From: ML@PBB {MBBS: Snowdog} Msg#: 383887 To: ML@STR {MBBS: LIBRARIAN} Re: My ripterm v.1.54 Quit I have been running Ripterm, and Ripaint under OS2 and it works very well. I can run a few sessions of Ripaint, and also run the BBSMAJOR.msg editor at the same time. Try it you'll like it. So far Ripterm is the only DOS term prg that I can get running in OS2 at 14.4 with out any trouble. Are there any TIP files out there on BBSMAJOR.MSg and rip, or any help (TEXT) file at all for hints on RIP. --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 09:47:10, from: (PBB)--==** Point Blank **==-- - (516) 371-9643 Huntington Station, Long Island Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:13am /RIP From: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 383912 To: ML@NUC {MBBS: NOTORIOUS A Re: Re: RIP Platforms On the subject of Re: RIP Platforms, Ml@nuc {mbbs: Notorious A wrote... > Ok I will see if I can find it, a friend of mine who owns an Amiga said > there is one out. Will see if he has it. and will post the number here. > > Course high speed, out of 20 lines, 16 are ZyXEL 19.2k E Plus modems :) Your efforts will be appreciated greatly! Mike Sysop@c-m --- þ WinQwk 2.0 a#140 þ No wanna work. Wanna bang on keyboard. --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 06:41:34, from: (C-M)ChatMaster BBS - 417-886-6639 Springfield, Missouri Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:17am /RIP From: ML@ATB {MBBS: Time Lord} Msg#: 383925 To: ML@STR {MBBS: Librarian} Re: Rip 2.0 & Soundblaster LI> ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ LI> ³LI> Naughty you, reading on 'another net'. :-) But it is true it will LI> ³LI> have Soundblaster support. LI> ³ LI> ³I got sick of reading the /MUTANTS! forum one day. LI> ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; LI> I can imagine. Some of the forums are real boring to non-users. But LI> this RIP forum is not very colorful either :-) LI>--- Non-Users? I am the sysop here buddy. And the only reason I got sick of /Mutants forum, is because Sysop@Pt1 is a MajorBABY. You know, You can upload rip pictures in here, so the people with RipTerm have something to look at. --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 09:03:22, from: (ATB)Atlantis BBS - (408) 377-8510 San Jose, California Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:17am /RIP From: ML@ATB {MBBS: Time Lord} Msg#: 383926 To: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archm Re: Re: RIP Platforms NA> Someone here in Calgary said there is a RIP compatible term out for the NA> Amiga... I can try and dig it up if you are interested, but you will NA> have to call my BBS to download it. NA> Let me know if your interested! NA>--- Please do --- Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 09:11:14, from: (ATB)Atlantis BBS - (408) 377-8510 San Jose, California (R)eply, (E)mail reply, follow (T)hread, (P)revious or (N)ext message? Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:25am /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 383955 To: ML@STL {MBBS: THE DARK ON Re: Re: Anyone heard anything -=> Quoting MlAnyone heard anything abotl {mbbs: The Dark On to Ml@c-m {mbbs: Sysop} <=- M{TD> Also, Rip is ANCIENT. From what I heard and have seen, RIPscrip has M{TD> no real good resolution. All I have seen is EGA 16 color... Tel FX is M{TD> 256 color 640x480/1024x768 with GIF and JPEG viewing. Rip isnt ANCIENT it is just getting started my friend! RIP will have VGA support, sound, a palette of 16.7 million colors TIFF, JPEG support if you dont trust me, ask me again, and I will post actual comments from the president of Telegraphix ! Jim notorious archmage@NUC Sent via MailLink, 11-OCT-93, 12:04:52, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 8:31am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Librarian} Msg#: 383974 To: ML@PBB {MBBS: SNOWDOG} Re: My ripterm v.1.54 Quit Quoting from the deep thoughts of Snowdog} on: My ripterm v.1.54 Quit ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³I have been running Ripterm, and Ripaint under OS2 and it works very ³well. I can run a few sessions of Ripaint, and also run the ³BBSMAJOR.msg editor at the same time. Try it you'll like it. We just got our OS2 package in. But before installing it i first have to get some more RAM into the machine. Although IBM says that 4 Mb is the minimum requirement our OS2 specialist says that 8Mb is necessary. ³So far Ripterm is the only DOS term prg that I can get running in OS2 at ³14.4 with out any trouble. This says something about the quality of Ripterm and OS2. ³Are there any TIP files out there on BBSMAJOR.MSg and rip, or any help ³(TEXT) file at all for hints on RIP. Never heard of a file like that but if you have any queries on RIP you could always drop a note to our resident artworker Ron Hartendorp sold by Tessier and Prostar. Take care, Sent via MailLink, 12-OCT-93, 12:45:10, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 10:03am /RIP From: ML@CBR {MBBS: Countzero} Msg#: 384054 To: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Re: RIP Platforms MO>But, when RIP2.0 with sound comes out, it will most likely not use MO>digital samples, it will use the samples built into your SB chip, which MO>are not built into the Amiga. This is okay, as long as RIP2.0 does not MO>support more than 4 sounds at once, becuase the Amiga would be able to MO>play them (we could just record the samples of a SB), but the MO>SoundBlaster is able to play 10 (or is it 12) of these internal samples MO>at once, which the Amiga couldn't keep up with, unless we weigh down our MO>proccessors mixing all the samples into 1 channel, which would be a MO>waste on a integrated multi-tasking system. Well I do hope they think about that. I have been waiting and waiting for more than just IBM systems to be able to use RIPterm. I have started over doing the RIP for the BBS and hope to have it done this month but never know. The sound seems like it will be fun but I am not all that sure that we need it. I have a sound blaster pro on one of 3 computers in the house that we modem with. My Co-Sysop does not have one, alot of my users don't have them. It may end up being a feature that not many users will ever know is there. Now when/if an amiga version of RIPterm comes out with sound that iwll work on amiga I know that ALL of them will be able to hear the sound. Sort of like I have 65% IBM users and perhaps 5% of them would be able to get the sound. Have 10% amiga users and 100% of them would get the sound. So what I am saying is even though there are alot less amiga users there are alot more of them that would be able to use RIP with sound. Countzero@CBR --- Sent via MailLink, 12-OCT-93, 10:11:22, from: (CBR)Cyberspace BBS - (616) 454-7800 Grand Rapids, MI Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1993 11:18am /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 384239 To: ML@PRO {MBBS: CLEAVER} Re: Re: ARENA and rip -=> Quoting Ml@pro {mbbs: Cleaver} to Ml uc {mbbs: Notorious A <=- M{C> Please send the article. I am in the midst of deciding which GUI M{C> formats to use and knowing the upcoming version of RIP would be M{C> helpful. -!- Ok when I get some time I will post some of the article (been doin 12 hour shifts at work and the come home and do bout 5 on the bbs.. But I will find some time :) Jim --- Sent via MailLink, 12-OCT-93, 17:10:04, from: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Thursday, October 14, 1993 3:15pm /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Librarian} Msg#: 385173 To: ML@ATB {MBBS: TIME LORD} Re: Rip 2.0 & Soundblaster Quoting from the deep thoughts of Lord} on: Rip 2.0 & Soundblaster ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³LI> I can imagine. Some of the forums are real boring to non-users. But ³LI> this RIP forum is not very colorful either :-) ³LI>--- ³Non-Users? I am the sysop here buddy. And the only reason I got sick of ³/Mutants forum, is because Sysop@Pt1 is a MajorBABY. You know, You can ³upload rip pictures in here, so the people with RipTerm have something ³to look at. ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Buddy? I am one of the sysops here and since we don't have Mutants online reading about it gets pretty boring. I don't see much use in uploading RIP screens in here. It would only prevent sales of our commercial Rip screens which are available from some good MBBS retailers. Frans Kleijweg->Librarian@STR->kleijweg@sterbbs.nl --- Sent via MailLink, 14-OCT-93, 00:20:06, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Thursday, October 14, 1993 3:21pm /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: The Dark One} Msg#: 385194 To: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archm Re: Re: Anyone heard anything g MlAnyone heard anything abotl {mbbs: The Dark On to Ml@c-m {mbb NA>Sysop} <=- NA> M{TD> Also, Rip is ANCIENT. From what I heard and have seen, RIPscrip has NA> M{TD> no real good resolution. All I have seen is EGA 16 color... Tel FX i NA> M{TD> 256 color 640x480/1024x768 with GIF and JPEG viewing. NA> Rip isnt ANCIENT it is just getting started my friend! RIP will have NA> VGA support, sound, a palette of 16.7 million colors TIFF, JPEG support NA> if you dont trust me, ask me again, and I will post actual comments NA> from the president of Telegraphix ! NA> Jim NA> notorious archmage@NUC Im not intereseted in what it WILL have. By the time thats done my Custom software will be completed that will make all standards obsolete, on account of the fact that it uses Animations like FLI, GL, MPEG, etc. to do its GUIing. I already have GIF, JPEG, TIFF, TGA, FRACTAL, 16.7 million Hicolor, Sound Blaster, Advanced Gravis, Roland Sound Canvas, and Turtle Beach systems MultiSound sound modules installed. I would say the JPEG and TIFFs in Rip should be done by... what? June 1994? Also... shut up all you people complaining about 'RIP bashing'. This sub is for RIP discussion, including the negative side of it. If you can complain on RoboNet about how Tel-FX is bad and rip will rule, then I can post on here about how RIP is bad and how my animated software If you like RIP then log on to any RoboFX board. (Yes, thats right all you people thinking that RoboBoard F/X isnt finished yet. Its already out) and see what its competition is. --- Sent via MailLink, 13-OCT-93, 09:41:56, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Friday, October 15, 1993 12:40am /RIP From: Jallen Msg#: 385621 To: Jkpotter Re: 2400 baud (Reply to #364439) (N)ext, (P)revious, follow (T)hread, or (R)ead this message? I've been using ripterm at 2400 with no problems. I have seen a board run it both fast and slow at times. I guess if it's set up right then everything is o.k.. It would seem probable that a sysop who is not familiar with rip may have difficulty getting his board to run properly. Jallen James Allen Fl. Image Service Miranar Fl. Date: Friday, October 15, 1993 12:44am /RIP From: Jallen Msg#: 385624 To: ML@ARS {MBBS: Sysop} Re: RIPTERM AND GREEK CHARACTERS (Reply to #366497) Try using a keyboard remap program, this may solve your problems with any key that may be hot. Also if you try turning door mode off on incoming terminals it ends hot key use. Jallen James Allen Fl. Image Service Miramar Fl. USA Date: Friday, October 15, 1993 9:48pm /RIP From: Cdlc Msg#: 386853 To: ** ALL ** Re: ICO2ICN.ZIP (N)ext, (P)revious, follow (T)hread, or (R)ead this message? Has anyone gotten the ICO2ICN filr to work? I get a Graphics not initialized error telling me to use Initgraph (what ever the hell that is...) It's suppose to convert window icons to RIP icons... Date: Saturday, October 16, 1993 5:33pm /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 387216 To: ** ALL ** Re: Rip stuff I promised Here is the stuff from a local computer paper on RIPscript that I promised! The Computer Paper (Calgary Edition) had an interview with Jim Bergman of TeleGrafix. TCP = The computer paper JB = Jim Bergman TCP: Are there any people working on a Windows/Mac/Amiga/other terminal? JB : I have talked to people who are working on an Amiga terminal and and Atari terminal. They have not mad any announcements yet, so I can't tell you any more than that. A Mac terminal is in the progress, but no release date has been set. There is a possiblity of a Unix terminal (OSF/Motif or X/windows running on a Sun or Silcon Graphics system) but nothin definate there. TCP: Are you intending on incorporating sounds - called up from downloadable libraries? Have you thought about a multi-platform JB : Sound is a definately part of our plans. We intend to incorporate full multimedia capabilites into RIPscript language. The major new features in version 2.0 (which is under development now) are transmitable images (on the fly display of bitmap images send by the host), sound, resolution independance, and support for upto 16.7 million colors. TCP: What else is in store for v2.0? JB : Besides the stuff mentioned above, you can also expect to see improved animation support, compressed RIP files, faster graphics, and revamped font support. We want to foster a healthy niche for developers to create applications that support RIPscript. ( other stuff omitted ) TCP : Will RIP be able to trigger external event program modules? What comes to mind is pre-defined sound/graphics sequence for an advanced online game. JB : RIPscript already has the ability to trigger external modules in a rudimentary way. The host can initiate the use of anyprogram called in the external menu in RIPterm. In the future we plan to have advanced abilities call on external modules. We consider it an integral part of RIPscript, and part of the reason we work closely with our developers. Well there you have it, the meat of the article! The above was taken from the Calgary edition of The Computer paper! I hope I typed everythign in correct, if not I am sorry! :) Anyways RIP v2.0 sounds VERY VERY promising! Jim Notorious Archmage@NUC Nucleus Information Service 403-531-9353 (2400 baud access) 403-531-9357 (16 High Speed lines) --- Sent via MailLink, 14-OCT-93, 22:17:52, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Monday, October 18, 1993 8:16am /RIP From: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 387726 To: ML@PYL {MBBS: MONOLITH} Re: RIP Platforms On the subject of RIP Platforms, Ml@pyl {mbbs: Monolith} wrote... > >Hopefully (if the sounds on RIP2.0 isn't compat w/ Amiga), someone will >come up with a mutation... I mean, Amiga was always the first, why not >at least come in second this time... =) Amiga still has the best BBS >program (at least in my opinion): Excelsior! = All The Features Of MBBS >& CNet, for $100.... And a maximum of 24 lines to MBBS' 256.... nah... Oh well... there shall always be amiga minds out there... Mike Sysop@c-m --- þ WinQwk 2.0 a#140 þ Luxuriantly hand-crafted of only the finest ASCII. --- Sent via MailLink, 15-OCT-93, 05:59:36, from: Springfield, Missouri Date: Monday, October 18, 1993 8:32am /RIP From: ML@NCS {MBBS: Jon} Msg#: 387784 To: ML@CBR {MBBS: COUNTZERO} Re: RIP Platforms M{C>sound. So what I am saying is even though there are alot less amiga M{C>users there are alot more of them that would be able to use RIP with M{C>sound. I strongly disagree with this statement. I do not know very many IBM user sthat do NOT have SB or SBPro. Allof the games available now-a-days require sound for better realism. Of course its not required but it makes them 100% more realistic. Therefore I think Rip with sound would be a smash on an IBM as well as the amiga. Most Amiga users do not use their machines in such a manner. Due to their specialized features they are bought mainly for special demands of the programmer\user.... Xanadu ..... --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up. Sent via MailLink, 14-OCT-93, 15:33:56, from: (NCS)The Second Foundation - 315-393-6504 Northern New York Date: Monday, October 18, 1993 8:32am /RIP From: ML@PBB {MBBS: Snowdog} Msg#: 387785 To: ML@STR {MBBS: LIBRARIAN} Re: My ripterm v.1.54 Quit > (musicman@str). He created the Ripscreen collection which is being > sold by Tessier and Prostar. I am thinking about ordering that CD. It sounds like I can find a few nice tricks on that CD. Maybe I'll give them a call today and see what it costs. See you in the os2 conference. :-) have fun. --- Sent via MailLink, 15-OCT-93, 07:55:08, from: (PBB)--==** Point Blank **==-- - (516) 371-9643 Huntington Station, Long Island Date: Monday, October 18, 1993 9:11am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 387869 To: ML@PBB {MBBS: SNOWDOG} Re: Rip 2.0 & Soundblaster Quoting the highlights from Ml@pbb {mbbs: Snowdog} : ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³You will have to make your screens ³better ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Just check them out I would suggest :-))) The first ones I made where stolen right away (TPL) and praised right into heaven in the Major News fall edition. Just read the section about the Mail Highway on TPL, 'cause that's one I drew for STER BBS a long time ago. BTW Tim bought them after all so....no hard feeling (He just wanted to try out the Shareware concept and it worked :-)) Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Majornet: Musicman@STR Internet: Ronhart@sterbbs.nl --- Sent via MailLink, 17-OCT-93, 18:22:54, from: (STR)STER BBS, Major ZIP is now shipping - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Monday, October 18, 1993 9:23am /RIP From: ML@MAG {MBBS: Zool} Msg#: 387906 To: ** ALL ** Re: Script capabilities I was wonder, I have been reading this sig for a while now, and haven't seen anything that would indicate whether or not RIPterm will be incorperating Scripts. This is one aspect I would like included, and can't find it with my version 1.54. Of course, I may have overlooked it. --- Sent via MailLink, 17-OCT-93, 21:26:20, from: (MAG)MagiComm, Inc./Arcadia Entertaiment Network - (407) 724-1226 Melbourne, FL 32901 Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:07am /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 390520 To: ML@STL {MBBS: SYSOP} Re: Re: 2400 baud -=> Quoting MlRe: 2400 baudtl {mbbs: Sysop} to Ml uc {mbbs: Notorious A <=- M{S> M{S> What I was implying by my comment about RIP at 2400 bps is that users M{S> may expect lightning fast file transfers after they have seen fast M{S> screens at 2400. There are a lot of non-technical users out there who M{S> don't have a clue about how this stuff works. They won't understand M{S> why the file transfer still plods along at 2400. M{S> Noel Moss, sysop@stl I see, sorry I miss understood ya. But read my message from yesterday RIP graphics will be getting faster etc. I am sure the buys at TeleGrafix will find a way to make RIP scream along at 2400 baud as well! Jim Sent via MailLink, 16-OCT-93, 08:05:46, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:07am /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 390521 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: JALLEN} Re: Re: 2400 baud M{J> I've been using ripterm at 2400 with no problems. I have seen a board M{J> run it both fast and slow at times. I guess if it's set up right then M{J> everything is o.k.. It would seem probable that a sysop who is not M{J> familiar with rip may have difficulty getting his board to run M{J> properly. It also depends on how "GRAPHICAL" one gets with the screens, I did work on one that took literally EONS to print at 2400 baud, The more you add to it the slower it will go because it goes in a sequential path (IE the one rip screen that comes with RIP add-on for MBBS) The menu with the stars. (Take alook at this at 2400 baud! WHOA!) If you keep stuff simple yet look extremely nice, your screens will go testing is a royal pain especially the MSG stuff Jim Sent via MailLink, 16-OCT-93, 08:05:50, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:17am /RIP From: ML@SCP {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 390558 To: ML@CWK {MBBS: CoSysOp} Re: Unknown Directory Specifier Error CO> I have recently installed the update to ver. 1.54.01 on our CO>development system and have found the following error: CO>Unknown Directory Specifer: CO>FONTS: C:\RIPAINT\FONTS\ CO> This problem only happens when I enter RIPaint through the MBBS CO>configuration options. I can run RIPaint from DOS with no apparent CO>problems. Does anyone have any suggestions or answers? if you find out let me know i even called gcm still haven't figured it out... sysop@scp Sent via MailLink, 18-OCT-93, 04:47:46, from: (SCP) SCOOP BBS - ELCAJON - CALIFORNIA - 619-449-8430 SAN DIEGO EASTCOUNTY CONNECTION Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:21am /RIP From: ML@NEX {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 390576 To: ** ALL ** Re: RIP for Amiga's Is there a program for the Amiga that support RIP? If so what is it called and where can I find it? Michael Breaux The Nexus Point Poway, California Sent via MailLink, 18-OCT-93, 11:10:20, from: (NEX)The NEXUS POINT - (619) 486-0529 Poway, California From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 390585 To: ML@MAG {MBBS: Zool} Re: Script capabilities ZO>I was wonder, I have been reading this sig for a while now, and haven't ZO>seen anything that would indicate whether or not RIPterm will be ZO>incorperating Scripts. This is one aspect I would like included, and ZO>can't find it with my version 1.54. Of course, I may have overlooked ZO>it. Rip Script is actually a bunch of text codes that will be translated to your end... it does not mean Scripts that will run certain commands on you end.. The script is used by hosts to show graphics on your end. It's not script in the traditional sense.. Like a Telix Script file that will do the Log-on Sequence for you once you load it up. It's more of a graphics script that translates the codes sent to your from your host bbs. --- Sent via MailLink, 18-OCT-93, 12:48:42, from: Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:23am /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 390586 To: ML@PBB {MBBS: Snowdog} Re: RIP Platforms SN>M>M{C>sound. So what I am saying is even though there are alot less amiga SN> >M{C>users there are alot more of them that would be able to use RIP with SN> >M{C>sound. SN>M> I strongly disagree with this statement. I do not know very many IBM SN> > user sthat do NOT have SB or SBPro. Allof the games available SN>True SN> > Rip with sound would be a smash on an IBM as well as the amiga. Most SN>I dont see the need to have sound in a terminal prg, unless we are going SN>to get games that will take advantage of it (over the modem). SN>I would rather see the programmers spend their time working on SN>usability. SN> make the program easier to use. Mainly work on editing an existing I disagree that there is no use for sound on a BBS instead of users sending each other action words, they can send each other sounds. also, I noticed that when I interface with a Major BBS. the flashing text no longer flashes when I use ripterm does anyone know how that can be fixed? --- Sent via MailLink, 18-OCT-93, 12:52:44, from: Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 10:23am /RIP From: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 390588 To: ML@PYL {MBBS: MONOLITH} Re: RIP Platforms >There is no limit to lines. The documention say "Unlimited"... 24 is all >that you can FIT into an Amiga, but there are ways around it. Thats what I meant... 24 serial ports is the limitation of an amiga... and we all know how much Amiga's love network cards... hehehehe Enuf said... Mike Sysop@c-m Sent via MailLink, 18-OCT-93, 05:34:02, from: (C-M)ChatMaster BBS - 417-886-6639 Springfield, Missouri Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:16am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390808 To: ML@PBB {MBBS: Snowdog} Re: bbsmajor.msg SN>HI all, I have been playing with rip now for a week, and have had much SN>success at it. The main problem I have is finding screens in the SN>BBSMAJOR.MSG file. I am looking for all those generic screens with SN> like in teleconference. were are SN>they, I wish I had a map of he BBSMAJOR>MSG file. it is a real pain SN>finding all the screens. SN>Also is there a way to have a screen wait for a response from the user SN>with out changing the menu structure. like pop up screens. SN>YES I am reading the manual. Wish it had an index. Use the CNF option - Search... Enter the string you want to find. --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 17:52:10, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:16am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390809 To: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Re: Re: BUG IN RIPTERM SY>>Add &C1&W to the init string of RIPterm before you distribute it. Chris SY>>Kotacka at Galacticomm told me how.... SY>> SY>>BTW- add it at the end SY>> SY>>Andrew Behlmann SY>>NationLink Systems SY> Sorry this is NOT the answer! But it IS a good way to screw up SY>everyones modem that downloads your copy of RIPTERM! SY> The "&W" above is the command to write the initialization string SY>to NVRAM, to save it to Non-volatile ram memory in the modem. This is a SY>handy feature indeed, but everyone NEEDS to know that NVRAM can only be SY>written to so many times before it quits saving the string. Call the modem SY>manufacturers and ask them what would result from adding this to the init, SY>I would suggest calling one who knows what they are talking about, perhaps SY>U.S.R. would be a best bet. Last I was told NVRAM will last a few thousand SY>&W's... which may seem like forever... until you start writing to it every Hey... I figured someone who helped write the MajorBBS would have known. That's just what he said. So, send your thoughts to Arch... His email address is in here somewhere. I am still reading up on init strings for 2400s. Andrew Behlmann --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 17:56:16, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:16am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390810 To: ** ALL ** Re: Anyone heard anything about TO>Tel-FX being incorporated into other Bulletin Board types (Not just TO>Roboboard)... in my opinion it is far superior to RIP, because it has TO>better resolution, higher number of colors, and already has soundblaster TO>support... If you like RIP look at RoboBOARD F/X. This time they are TO>releasing the Graphics Code with it so other BBS programs can TO>incorporate TelFX instead of RIP. If Tel-FX worked, maybe. I have talked to several people who have FXTerm, and it has worked for only one. Perhaps it was a full moon on an odd-numbered Monday during the 13th month on a quadruple leap-year. --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:10:00, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:17am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390811 To: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archm Re: Re: 2400 baud NA> M{S> I have tried RIP at 2400. It draws screens very well at that speed. NA> M{S> The only problem with RIP at 2400 (in my estimation) is that you are NA> M{S> still stuck with 2400 file transfers. The user will have fast screens NA> M{S> but s-l-o-w file transfers. That will probably be frustrating for the NA> M{S> user. NA>HUH? Of course you will be stuck with 2400 baud file transfers, because NA>the person only has 2400 baud modem. You cant change that fact. Its NA>like trying to convert a VW Bug into a lamborghini, it just wont work Hey... You CAN turn a VW into a Lambo!!! Sell the Bug. :-) --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:11:50, from: St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:17am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390812 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: Nickums} Re: RIP Platforms NI>Can anyone tell me if any terminal emulators (commercial or shareware) NI>are supporting RIP on an Amiga or Mac. NI>Seems to be alot for IBM (Qmodem, etc), however, no RIP support for the NI>others. NI>Or am I wrong? You could code your own... Make it translate the RIP commands into screen graphics. There could actually be quite a market for it. A.D. Behlmann@STL --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:16:02, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:17am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390813 To: ** ALL ** Re: Anyone heard anything about TO>I dont know. There is one strange thing about the spreading of TO>RIPscrip. It seems to be REALLY REALLY common in some places, and TO>REALLY REALLY uncommon in others. Out here in St.Louis there arent that TO>many RIP boards at ALL, and quite a few RoboBoards. I think if they TO>start taking territories there might be a chance that RIP will slowly be TO>defeated... Whassat? RoboFX killing RIP? I highly doubt it. --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:19:20, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:17am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390814 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: Chastanet} Re: add-ons CH>I am putting up a BBS in France.& I would like to use Rip graphics at CH>once!& & ASAP. CH>The PB is I don't want to get involved in big developments at this time. CH>So,I need to "rip" qwk mail,dial out ,internet gwy,fax on line features. CH>If anybody has the trick, I would go for a A:install. CH>I would also like to find a "cheap"Internet provider in Europe.France CH>would be great! CH>Also, how to have FTP link on the Major BBS which has only a gatew CH>y UUCP.Iyou have tips to get round this fact, I would aappreciate CH>A future french MBBS Sysop, your Gateway to France. CH>Also waitin for Business opportunities.Tell me if you have any ideas!!! CH>Jacques Chastanet Mais oui... Les DOORS du MajorBBS. Write your own/buy someone else's Internet door, one which supports FTP. I am using one for NationLink... Repondez, s'il vous plait. Je voudrais savoir comment votre BBS travaille. Pardon the French, not QUITE perfect... Andrew Behlmann MajorNet: A.D. Behlmann@STL Internet: Andrew@GCOMM.COM --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:24:00, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:18am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390816 To: ML@C-M {MBBS: Sysop} Re: Anyone heard anything about SY>>I dont know. There is one strange thing about the spreading of SY>>RIPscrip. It seems to be REALLY REALLY common in some places, and SY>>REALLY REALLY uncommon in others. Out here in St.Louis there arent that SY>>many RIP boards at ALL, and quite a few RoboBoards. I think if they SY>>start taking territories there might be a chance that RIP will slowly be SY>>defeated... SY> I think that will change. There used to be a few ROBO systems here SY>and they all failed miserably... SY> I think some of your fellow sysops there will be using rip real SY>soon now. Roman Empire and Wendy's Dungeon should be installed any day SY>from what I hear. Course thats just two of many, but I am 300 miles away SY>and news travels slowly... RoboTerm and FXTerm seldom work. I know ONE end user who has gotten FXTerm to work when calling an FX BBS. Sorry, but Hamilton-whatever telegraphics is no competition, even for ANSI. --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:30:06, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 St. Louis, MO Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:18am /RIP From: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. Behlmann} Msg#: 390817 To: ** ALL ** Re: Anyone heard anything about TO>SY>>I dont know. There is one strange thing about the spreading of TO>SY>>RIPscrip. It seems to be REALLY REALLY common in some places, and TO>SY>>REALLY REALLY uncommon in others. Out here in St.Louis there arent that TO>SY>>many RIP boards at ALL, and quite a few RoboBoards. I think if they TO>SY>>start taking territories there might be a chance that RIP will slowly be TO>SY>>defeated... TO>SY> I think that will change. There used to be a few ROBO systems her TO>SY>and they all failed miserably... TO>SY> I think some of your fellow sysops there will be using rip real TO>SY>soon now. Roman Empire and Wendy's Dungeon should be installed any day TO>SY>and news travels slowly... TO>I have counted around 12 Robo systems and 5 RoboFX systems in this area TO>alone... im not speaking of original robo, though. Im talking about TO>Tel-FX. Completely different program. Personally, I beleive my TO>spersonal custom protocoll will defeat all. I was simply asking a TO>question: Do you think that programs such as MajorBBS and the even TO>larger population of TBBS systems will incorporate the Tel-FX protocol? TO>Also, Rip is ANCIENT. From what I heard and have seen, RIPscrip has no TO>real good resolution. All I have seen is EGA 16 color... Tel FX is 256 TO>color 640x480/1024x768 with GIF and JPEG viewing. But RIP works. Robo does not always work. Your 'personal protocol'? You called a Sportster a Rockwell modem and you have a personal protocol? OK... Sorry, realtime videoconferencing and audioconferencing are virtually impossible via modem. You could not do it... The sound would break up, the video would be blocky. Trust me... AT&T cannot perfectly do it. --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 18:33:32, from: (STL)SLACC STACK - 314-367-1903 Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 11:28am /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 390856 To: ML@NEX {MBBS: SYSOP} Re: Re: RIP for Amiga's M{S> Is there a program for the Amiga that support RIP? If so what is it M{S> called and where can I find it? A friend said he seen one, but cant locate it, I know one that will be supporting it.. Its called Terminus. Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 14:12:52, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Thursday, October 21, 1993 1:50pm /RIP From: Eric Thav Msg#: 390926 To: ML@MLM {MBBS: SYSOP} Re: Re: Anyone heard anything (Reply to #390523) M>I disagree on this to a point. I am not into the graphical front ends as M>of yet, having not gotten it for Malum. We are an MBBS system and our M>alternative is none or RIP, There are alternatives. Although Galacticomm is committed to help foster RIP and making RIP viable on The Major BBS, using the multi-language features of The Major BBS (starting with Version 6.1), virtually any format can be added, albeit not in pre-packaged form as RIP can with our RIPscrip Add-On option. /* Eric Thav */ :: Internet: et@gcomm.com :: FidoNet: 1:369/79 Galacticomm :: Voice: +1 305 321-2404 :: BBS: +1 305 583-7808 Date: Saturday, October 23, 1993 2:48am /RIP From: Blue Dragon Msg#: 391424 To: ** ALL ** Re: RIP Questions I'm not sure if I posted this here before, but is so, please forgive this repeat. I have to technical questions concerning RIP that I could use advise on. First, I have seen a number of RIPped BBS' with a RIP ON/RIP OFF method. Could someone please tell me how they have implemented this? I can't seem to find any method for turning it on or off! On a related note, there are references in the .MSG files about enabling an option in the Account Edit menu so that users can turn their RIP on or off, yet I have been unable to get it to appear. What do I have to do to get it to be in there? Secondly, I am in need of some method of storing a variable on the user's end that can be stored and sent out at various times in his logon session, but later being changed if he wishes. I am trying to implement the following sort of buttons: In a game, the user has two buttons. He selects one button, and his Ripterm asks him to input (or change) the variable MONSTER. He then puts in that variable. Then he selects the other button which sends out HIT $MONSTER$`m He can repeatedly select the second button until the MONSTER is vanquished, then select the first button again to change the variable to something else. I cannot believe that this is so hard to implement, but so far the best Ive managed is a button that sends out the HIT $MONSTER$`m string, which requests input for the MONSTER variable each time. It never remembers the variable for the subsequent uses. If only I could implement this, I could have SUCH a nice interface for Crossroads. I would be happy to upload it publicly so anyone could use it, and I can explain how it can be easily implemented. If all else fails, I know this kind of interface is implemented recently on Mutants. Could someone please do a text capture of that ripscreen for me? It would explain a lot. --- þ SLMR 2.0 þ It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a Date: Monday, October 25, 1993 3:19pm /RIP From: ML@NEX {MBBS: Sysop} Msg#: 392126 To: ** ALL ** Re: Amiga Does anyone know where an Amiga version of ripterm(or other program) can be found? ... Michael Breaux, The Nexus Point, Poway California ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- Sent via MailLink, 20-OCT-93, 09:37:14, from: (NEX)The NEXUS POINT - (619) 486-0529 Poway, California Date: Monday, October 25, 1993 3:33pm /RIP From: ML@DKM {MBBS: Eros} Msg#: 392173 To: ML@ODS {MBBS: Daytona} Re: Previous message WHy can't you simply do a file attachment to get past the 16k limit? --- Sent via MailLink, 21-OCT-93, 17:08:58, from: (DKM)Dragon Keep * 32 Lines! - (904) 375-3500 Gainesville, FL Date: Monday, October 25, 1993 3:34pm /RIP From: ML@ODS {MBBS: Daytona} Msg#: 392177 To: ** ALL ** Re: Previous message Ok, NO, *I* did NOT make that rip, so, don't think i am trying to take credit for it... I simply sent it up so people could see what CAN be done with Rip, BESIDES menus... I wanted to send an even better one, but that petty 16k limit in MBBS dettered that idea... Oh well.... If ya like it, leave me a hollar, and I'll send a few more ] -= Daytona =- --- Sent via MailLink, 19-OCT-93, 14:03:48, from: (ODS)Online Data Systems - 414-761-5120 Milwaukee/Racine, Wisconsin Date: Monday, October 25, 1993 3:40pm /RIP From: ML@NUC {MBBS: Notorious Archmage} Msg#: 392200 To: ML@STL {MBBS: A.D. BEHLMA Re: Re: RIP Platforms NI>are supporting RIP on an Amiga or Mac. NI>Seems to be alot for IBM (Qmodem, etc), however, no RIP support for the NI>others. An Amiga and MAC term are in the works.. Read my LONG message on an interview a local paper had with the guys from RIP! BTW what did you guys think of that!? I never did get no response back on it :( Jim Sent via MailLink, 21-OCT-93, 11:08:06, from: (NUC)Nucleus Information Service - (403) 531-9353 Calgary, Alberta, Canada Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1993 2:11pm /RIP From: ML@TMB {MBBS: The Prez} Msg#: 392921 To: ** ALL ** Re: Things that make you go Hmmmmmm. (N)ext, (P)revious, follow (T)hread, or (R)ead this message? Rip definately has some weird features!!! Both my logon screen and my special logon message go by so fast they cant even be read??? I must have done something wrong as they worked before! With all this talk of Rip 2.0 does anyone know if it will allow us to use 256 color images online instead of just 16? or does it just support 16 million colors with only 16 at a time? The Prez@TMB --- Sent via MailLink, 26-OCT-93, 02:31:08, from: (TMB)TechnoMedia BBS - (306 756-2523 Caronport, SK Canada Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1993 2:18pm /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Msg#: 392949 To: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Re: Amiga (1 reply) Amiga CAN emulate IBM's, but the software costs money, and is very slow... Plus, when using software emulation, it only runs in 8088 mode, and it is my understanding that RipTerm requires a 286+... Besides, why would WE want to run a PC program? --- Sent via MailLink, 25-OCT-93, 20:29:20, from: (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1993 3:14pm /RIP From: Blue Dragon Msg#: 392978 To: ML@PYL {MBBS: MONOLITH} Re: Amiga (Reply to #392949) >and it is my understanding that RipTerm requires a 286+... Besides, why >would WE want to run a PC program? Last I heard, MajorBBS hasn't been ported to the Amiga yet. Perhaps in there lies your answer? ;) (sorry, couldn't resist) Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1993 5:33pm /RIP From: ML@BNN {MBBS: Bowser} Msg#: 393979 To: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Re: Menu Selection based on Security HU>SY>Will it ever be possible to have buttons appear or disappear based on HU>SY>Security. HU>I would think so. since different users get different menus HU>I would imagine that buttons can be manipluated that way also. HU>or make more than one set of icons, when a new use logs on HU>tell the computer to pull up a set of icons called "new" HU>then when the new user gets validated, tell the computer to HU>pull up a set of "validated" icons HU>etc. How possible it is...I've done it. What you do, is go draw your RIP screen with all the buttons that are going to be on your screen. Then you use a text editor to insert the little marker commands before and after the individual RIPscrip commands. You should know how to parse RIPscrip commands onto separate lines - just separate the string where you see |, and make sure there's a ! on column 0 (beginning of the Then, BEFORE the RIPscrip command that draws the button on the screen: With your text editor, put your cursor on the ! of the line you want to mark. Hold down your ALT key and type 255 on your numeric keypad. This will look like a space but really it's a "sticky-space". Then type the letter of the menu select character you want to key it to (such as A). If it's a letter, capitalize it. Then go to the NEXT line and put another one of these ALT-255 sticky-spaces at the beginning. Presto, anything between the sticky spaces will only appear if the user has access to the menu select option you put after the first sticky space! --Text Variables in RIP-- Our Maillink had been offline for about a month, but I don't know if this problem has been solved. The reason why Sysops would get junk when they tried to do text variables under RIPaint, is a problem with RIPaint, not the Sysop... This is because RIPaint would escape out the CTRL-A's in the text variable sequence with backslash-control A, which MajorBBS tended to hate. The solution would be to go in to your rip a great way to draw smoke or explosions in rip is to make a random fill pattern with grey, then hit alt-w to set your write mode to XOR, then use filled circles on top of each other! make a really good effect but they display slowly. --- Sent via MailLink, 26-OCT-93, 21:21:48, from: (BNN)Bulletin News Network - (801) 562-9488 Salt Lake City, UT Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1993 5:35pm /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 393987 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: Blue Dragon} Re: RIP Questions BD>I'm not sure if I posted this here before, but is so, please forgive BD>this repeat. I have to technical questions concerning RIP that I could BD>use advise on. BD>First, I have seen a number of RIPped BBS' with a RIP ON/RIP OFF method. BD>Could someone please tell me how they have implemented this? I can't BD>seem to find any method for turning it on or off! On a related note, BD>there are references in the .MSG files about enabling an option in the BD>Account Edit menu so that users can turn their RIP on or off, yet I have BD>been unable to get it to appear. What do I have to do to get it to be BD>in there? I know that there is a second question, but I can only address the first one, cuz I have no idea what the second one is about. to change either rip or ansi, just type /go account (usually) or a for account edit, then l for language change. that's it.. it's L for language.. (just in case you missed it the first time.) Sent via MailLink, 26-OCT-93, 18:01:16, from: (LIB)The Liberty BBS - 800-474-1818 Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:08pm /RIP From: ML@OPT {MBBS: Durango} Msg#: 394568 To: ** ALL ** Re: Hey.. All this talk about what Rip 2.0 will have, never mind that, when's the thing coming out?! --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 12:06:20, from: (OPT)OptiComm - (416) 921-6366 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:09pm /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 394570 To: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Re: Amiga MO>Amiga CAN emulate IBM's, but the software costs money, and is very MO>slow... Plus, when using software emulation, it only runs in 8088 mode, MO>and it is my understanding that RipTerm requires a 286+... Besides, why MO>would WE want to run a PC program? well, I just thought it might be easier to use what's out there rather than go out and search for something else. just a suggestion. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 11:59:42, from: (LIB)The Liberty BBS - 800-474-1818 Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:09pm /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 394571 To: ML@TMB {MBBS: The Prez} Re: Things that make you go Hmmmmmm. TP>Both my logon screen and my special logon message go by so fast they TP>cant even be read??? I must have done something wrong as they worked TP>before! TP>With all this talk of Rip 2.0 does anyone know if it will allow us to TP>use 256 color images online instead of just 16? or does it just support TP>16 million colors with only 16 at a time? 16 million colors is 256 colors at a time 64 colors is 16 at a time. I think. rip can probably take vga, but it just takes longer to program the codes. more colors requires more codes. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 12:01:38, from: Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:09pm /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 394573 To: ML@BNN {MBBS: Bowser} Re: Menu Selection based on Security BO>How possible it is...I've done it. BO>What you do, is go draw your RIP screen with all the buttons that are BO>going to be on your screen. BO>Then you use a text editor to insert the little marker commands before BO>and after the individual RIPscrip commands. You should know how to BO>parse RIPscrip commands onto separate lines - just separate the string BO>where you see |, and make sure there's a ! on column 0 (beginning of the BO>line). BO>Then, BEFORE the RIPscrip command that draws the button on the screen: BO>With your text editor, put your cursor on the ! of the line you want to BO>mark. Hold down your ALT key and type 255 on your numeric keypad. This BO>will look like a space but really it's a "sticky-space". Then type the BO>letter of the menu select character you want to key it to (such as A). BO>If it's a letter, capitalize it. BO>Then go to the NEXT line and put another one of these ALT-255 BO>sticky-spaces at the beginning. Presto, anything between the sticky BO>spaces will only appear if the user has access to the menu select option I thought people just use the /go commands? doesn't that work better? --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 12:06:46, from: (LIB)The Liberty BBS - 800-474-1818 Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:10pm /RIP From: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Msg#: 394574 To: ** ALL ** Re: I have seen a pull down style menu done in ansi. can the same thing be done in rip? something like this: Files Teleconference Forums Online Games download tele forum select a forum go to tw2001 upload chat channel go to qwk go to games forum select an area adult channel and behind each option would behind each option would be a mouse click-a-ble icon. and a /go command to go with it is it my understanding that the /go commands can be added or deleted to suite the system's needs? the pull down menus would look very similar to the top menu bar of ripterm.. is it possible?? can what I just described be done?? it's been done in ansi with THEDRAW.. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 12:13:22, from: (LIB)The Liberty BBS - 800-474-1818 Anaheim, CA Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 1:15pm /RIP From: ML@PRO {MBBS: Heater} Msg#: 394592 To: ** ALL ** Re: Rip-Graphics I am thinking of purchasing Ripscript for the Major BBS. Does this or does this not allow for on-line viewing of gif's? I have heard of a product that does allow on-line graphic viewing. This is what I wish to have if possible. If it does not, please give me some information on a product that does have this capability. Also, can the pictures be smaller so that serveral could be put on a page? The one I heard of is supposed to be able to display 256 colors on-line. Neat huh? Thanks! --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 20:12:46, from: (PRO) ** ProStar Plus ** - 206-941-0317 Auburn, WA Home of MailLink & MajorNet Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 3:09pm /RIP From: ML@ATB {MBBS: Time Lord} Msg#: 394671 To: ML@DKM {MBBS: Eros} Re: Previous message ER>WHy can't you simply do a file attachment to get past the 16k limit? ER>--- Because you can't upload files over this net. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 11:01:02, from: (ATB)Atlantis BBS - (408) 377-8510 San Jose, California Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 3:09pm /RIP From: ML@ATB {MBBS: Time Lord} Msg#: 394672 To: ML@LIB {MBBS: Hulk} Re: Previous message HU>ER>WHy can't you simply do a file attachment to get past the 16k limit? HU>ER>--- HU>you CAN. HU>--- Not on Majornet you can't. See hulk, you don't know EVERYTHING. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 11:02:48, from: (ATB)Atlantis BBS - (408) 377-8510 San Jose, California Date: Thursday, October 28, 1993 3:09pm /RIP From: ML@ATB {MBBS: Time Lord} Msg#: 394673 To: ML@PLX {MBBS: Grape Ape} Re: Rip graphics GA> Well, it seems That the guy who is doing rip for me, is not doing GA>it cause he is too busy. At any rate, I really dont want to pay $200 GA>for the rip ad on. Is there anyone out there who does rip at a GA>reasonable price???? GA>--- Tell me what you want, and I will give it a try. Write to me in private mail though. Tanks. <-- spelled wrong on purpose. --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 11:03:42, from: (ATB)Atlantis BBS - (408) 377-8510 San Jose, California Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:03am /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: David} Msg#: 394943 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: Blue Dragon} Re: Amiga BD>>and it is my understanding that RipTerm requires a 286+... Besides, why BD>>would WE want to run a PC program? BD>Last I heard, MajorBBS hasn't been ported to the Amiga yet. Perhaps in BD>there lies your answer? ;) (sorry, couldn't resist) Monolith, You'd want to run a PC program so you could use RIPterm and call BBS' that had RIP graphics. Did you rad the original post. MajorBBS is NOT the only BBS software to use RIP graphics and I have lot's of AMIGA users even though I run a Major BBS. So I don't get the joke I guess. However I have heard rumors that there are RIP comm programs being developed for both the AMIGA and the MAC. David Sysop@PYL (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:03am /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Msg#: 394944 To: ML@TMB {MBBS: The Prez} Re: Things that make you go Hmmmmmm. One thing that people must consider is that having 256 colors will take TIME... Some people don't want to sit for half an hour waiting for this AWESOME LOGIN SCREEN... I for one like the logon screen on the BBS I call now, "Welcome To The Pylon, running MBBS, etc..." Some logins can take 30 seconds or more on a 14.4, and I think that sucks... --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 17:18:22, from: (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:03am /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Msg#: 394945 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: Blue Dragon} Re: Amiga > Last I heard, MajorBBS hasn't been ported to the Amiga yet. Perhaps > there lies your answer? I don't think it would catch on, even if it were, why pay more for less? --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 17:23:18, from: (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:04am /RIP From: ML@PYL {MBBS: Monolith} Msg#: 394946 To: David@MailLink Re: Amiga Well, it's not a rumor that there will be Ami RIP terms, I could really care less about the macs... Schools don't deserve RIP... Wow! Our school now has Telnet, and they assume that the students don't know how to use it, too bad they left copies of "how to use Bellnet to get to internet" lying out on a table... =) --- Sent via MailLink, 27-OCT-93, 17:25:20, from: (PYL)The PYLON - (206) 633-2905 Seattle,WA Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:09am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 394965 To: ML@PLX {MBBS: GRAPE APE} Re: Rip graphics ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³Is there anyone out there who does rip at a ³reasonable price???? ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Depends on what you call readsonable !! STR paid a nice price for my screens (which are pretty good). Both Prostar and Tessier's have my collection for sale for a fair price. It contains all the loose RIP screens you need for a BBS including the Major CD Jukebox and the all around praised Mail Menu (read the fall issue from Major News about TPL). If you want prices for loose screens and/or complete RIP for a BBS just write Email to Sysop@STR for a fair deal. (I still have some spare time in my agenda :-) Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp þ TLX v3.10 þ .IFF I said you had a beautiful graphic, would you... --- Sent via MailLink, 28-OCT-93, 19:45:20, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:09am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 394966 To: ML@PRO {MBBS: CLEAVER} Re: Escape ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³I want to use the RIP_QUERY command in a file I am writing so that I can ³throw in some sound. But how do I insert an ESC (ASCII 27) into the ³code? There is probably some simple way...but it eludes me. ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Just use any ASCII editor like DOS EDIT or BOX and type the following on the spot you want to have your Esc. Hold the [ALT] key and type [2][7] on your numpad then release the [ALT] key and.....presto, there's your ASCII 27. This one is free from the European RIP Master , Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Majornet: Musicman@STR Internet: Ronhart@sterbbs.nl --- þ TLX v3.10 þ And I though this was going to be simple.... Sent via MailLink, 28-OCT-93, 19:46:16, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:09am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 394967 To: ML@GCM {MBBS: BLUE DRAGON Re: RIP Questions Quoting the highlights from Ml@gcm {mbbs: Blue Dragon : ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³First, I have seen a number of RIPped BBS' with a RIP ON/RIP OFF method. ³Could someone please tell me how they have implemented this? I can't The auto detect for RIP overrules the ACCOUNT settings when a RIP terminal is used to log in. However if the user selects ANSI as default language he get's ANSI when he's telling his comm's software NOT to be in RIP mode or just uses some comms packet which does noet support RIP. ³I cannot believe that this is so hard to implement, but so far the best ³Ive managed is a button that sends out the HIT $MONSTER$`m string ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Believe me.... it is I'm still asking Jeff Reeder for some nice pop-ups that don't need a users acknowled....but so far all is silent at Telegrafix. It's is scary but I haven't heard anything from them for over 10 weeks, so..... perhaps he's too busy debugging the great version 2 from RIP, with SB support, 256 Colors SVGA, If-Then-Else structures etc..... (this is all on my great features wanted list !!! So Jeff !!!!). Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Majornet: Musicman@STR Internet: Ronhart@sterbbs.nl --- þ TLX v3.10 þ Do you want graphics? NO, and quit asking me! --- Sent via MailLink, 28-OCT-93, 19:47:18, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:10am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 394968 To: ML@LIB {MBBS: HULK} Re: Menu Selection based on Security ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³SY>Will it ever be possible to have buttons appear or disappear based on ³SY>Security. ³ ³I would think so. since different users get different menus ³I would imagine that buttons can be manipluated that way also. ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; Exactly and it works !! Take a good look how the ANSI screens handle hidden and/or dimmed menu entry. If you look in Hex you'll find a ASCII [255] and the Menu selection Character Extra in front of the Menu entry. If you hop into your RIP screen using an ASCII editor you can apply the same trick in RIP by placing ASCII[255] plus the button character in front of the RIP line that defines this button, and you configure Major BBS for hidden menu entries the button only appears for users which hold the right security keys. This was another free hint from the European RIP Master, hope you like it. Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Sent via MailLink, 28-OCT-93, 19:48:08, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035 Spijkenisse, The Netherlands Date: Friday, October 29, 1993 9:10am /RIP From: ML@STR {MBBS: Musicman} Msg#: 394969 To: ML@TMB {MBBS: THE PREZ} Re: Things that make you go Hmmmmmm. ÕÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ͸ ³With all this talk of Rip 2.0 does anyone know if it will allow us to ³use 256 color images online instead of just 16? or does it just support ³16 million colors with only 16 at a time? ÔÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ; My hope is on the first, but I fear for the last option. It's awfully silent from Telegrafix...... Best regards from, Ron "the RIPPER" A.J. Hartendorp Majornet: Musicman@STR Internet: Ronhart@sterbbs.nl --- þ TLX v3.10 þ /earth is 98% full ... please delete anyone you can. --- Sent via MailLink, 28-OCT-93, 19:49:04, from: (STR)STER BBS, The home of Major CD - ++31 1880 40035