FORUM: Private E-Mail HOST: LEADING DATE: Feb-15-95 4:21am MSG: 244 PVT FROM: Digestifier TO: Dbn SUBJECT: Phish Digest #604 Phish Digest #604, Volume #4 Tue, 14 Feb 95 21:12:28 EST Contents: Looking for 10/15/94,10/16/94, and 10/18/94 (Andrew Markham) Re: The CD... mixed feelings (Alek Grabinski) Re: Musicians on 'Crimes of the Mind' (Adam Levin) screen saver (Jwjeremy) Re: AOL.Phish.netters (Jefe I) HARPUA T (DarkStar6@aol.com) LIVE ARU (DarkStar6@aol.com) Looking for SBD traders (Mango Mike) Re: Phish is Not Akoostik Hookah (Jason Frankhouser) Re: re: BAD TRADER! "****QUICK, EASY, TRADE...." (Gordo) Re: Rolling Stone (ERIK R. JANUS) phish in muppet costumes (David Leonard Goss) Re: Video trades.... (CarlosM7) *****TAPE TRADERS?***** (SAbbett) Re: phish vs dead (SAbbett) Acoustic Junction (ERNEST S ENSIGN) Re: Newbie tape offer!!!! (JENNIFLOWERS) subscribe (STEPHRL@student.lfc.edu) re: M.ray ("Kiersten N. Ahlm") bear trap road (David Leonard Goss) Union Federal *TRUTH* (Kurt) Kramer's Red Rocks Offer (gone phishin') Re: Pulp fiction oddities (david andrew sullivan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Markham Subject: Looking for 10/15/94,10/16/94, and 10/18/94 Reply-To: markhja0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:13:36 GMT I'm looking for 10/15/94 Birmingham, 10/16/94 Chatanooga, and 10/18/94 Nashville I don't have a big selection to trade but I do have some good stuff. SET 03/12/88 Nectar's Burlington VT N/A B+ First Gamhenge 04/22/90 Cutler Quad CO Springs,CO I,II A- 08/03/91 Amy's Farm I-III A 3songs w/Dude.O.L. 03/13/92 Campus Club Providence,RI I,II 07/25/92 Stowe Performing Arts N/A A- W/carlos santana and drmz 06/30/94 Classic Ampitheatre Richmond,VA I,II 04/10/94 Univ. of Buffalo Amherst,NY II B+ 10/31/94 Glenn Falls Arena Glenn Falls,NY I-III A- 12/29/94 Providence, RI I,II B+ 30min BOwie!!!!!!! ******** N/A= only one set ****************************************** If you don't have the shows I'm asking for write any way I may want something you have. markhja0@seraph1.sewanee.edu Andrew Markham 735 University Station SPO #443 Sevanee, TN 37383-1000 ------------------------------ From: Alek Grabinski Subject: Re: The CD... mixed feelings Reply-To: Alek_Grabinski@ccm.sc.intel.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:22:19 GMT Text item: Text_1 Stew, The Dude of Nice is concerned: \... I have mixed feelings about a sampling from different shows. Mainly, \there is something in a full show, listening to it the way it was supposed \to be. "The way it was supposed to be" is LIVE, extemporaneously (or INtemporaneously, as it were). It already happened the way it was supposed to; the live CD (or any other recreation, be it tapes, interactive CD-ROM, stage play, operetta, whatever) isn't subject to any "right-or-wrong" restrictions. I think we can all agree that the magical appeal of Phish is the live show, and that magic does not stem solely from what's coming out of the PA - it's the raw energy of the crowd, the Topher lights, the sweet smell of burning seeds and the animal fragrance of Bud, sweat and patchouli. It's not knowing whether the strobe lights will EVER stop, whether that little hook you heard two seconds ago will bloom into a jam that has never been heard anywhere else, whether you're going to hear the first Brother in three years. Dare we even attempt to reproduce this whole-body'n'mind experience on a CD? In the words of Frank Zappa: "You just can't do it." \That is one of the reasons why I don't buy boot CDs either, you \can't listen to a full set on it. 90% of first sets will fit onto a CD. Over half of second sets will fit on a CD. Bootleg CDs shouldn't be bought by ANYONE for the simple reason that it steals from the band and it jeopardizes live taping. \THere is something lost by sampling from concerts. We all have boots that \sound good, now why do we want a CD that doesn't promote one of the best \things about Phish, namely that a live show includes the high points and \low points and that mix within a show is what makes each show different \and special... The CD isn't being pressed for us Phish.netters who already have access to live tapes; it's being released to the world at large, to the other 300,000 (?) people who only have the CDs, who have never been to a show, and would like to hear what it's about. The idea of plopping a whole show down, warts and all, is quite unappealing to me - after all, if I want to hear it, I'll just get the tape. Creating, nay, CRAFTING a live album with selections spanning an entire tour allows a certain amount of creativity to be enacted by the artists, after the fact - Frank Zappa has many releases which are like this, live performances of songs with a solo from here and a bridge from there and a chorus from elsewhere, and they sound fantastic, because the songs sound like what HE envisioned them to sound like. To be honest, I'm rather disappointed in the way that the DLCD is apparently being assembled. In fact, I would have to retroactively agree with Stew when he says that we might as well just go to the tape if we want to hear the songs - if there's nothing unique or new about the music, a DLDAT could be generated using audience recordings of the same tracks that appear on the CD. I had envisioned, and still hope there's time to consider, a melange of music which is uniquely Phish and uniquely NOT a live CD - with individual tracks of each instrument for each show, the possibility exists for a set of compositions which are completely unlike anything we've ever heard. What I'm looking for is something where digital technology is used to edit together some auditory bizarreness to create non-Phish music with Phish music as the building blocks. Anyway, it's hard to describe, but hopefully you get my drift. Unfortunately, the assembly of such a release would be extremely time-consuming, and I think Phish would want to focus their efforts elsewhere - practice, new songs, gigging, gardening, whatever. DownerMan ------------------------------ From: Adam.Levin@launchpad.unc.edu (Adam Levin) Subject: Re: Musicians on 'Crimes of the Mind' Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:37:49 GMT In article <3hjmc7$ic8@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, Andrew T Croke wrote: >In article <3hj4gq$3p@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu>, >ERIK R. JANUS wrote: > >>I keep hearing on my local radio station: 'that was Phish with the >>Dude of Life with...' I thought only Fishman played on 'Crimes..' > >What?!? DoL on the *radio*????????? Wow. I can't even get Phish on the >radio... You are lucky to live wherever you do. Phish on radio = lucky stiff Dude on radio = poor unfortunate bastard -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Launchpad is an experimental internet BBS. The views of its users do not necessarily represent those of UNC-Chapel Hill, OIT, or the SysOps. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ------------------------------ From: Jwjeremy Subject: screen saver Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:56:18 -0500 This is probobly about the hundreth time that this has been asked, but can someone send me explicit directions for getting the phish screen saver? To the first replyer--> A copy of my favorite phish tape, 4.29.92. Free, free, free. kisses jem **first thought, best thought** ------------------------------ From: jefei@aol.com (Jefe I) Subject: Re: AOL.Phish.netters Date: 14 Feb 1995 11:06:26 -0500 Reply-To: jefei@aol.com (Jefe I) sure- when and where? ------------------------------ From: DarkStar6@aol.com Subject: HARPUA T Reply-To: DarkStar6@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:54:03 GMT Could someone send me the info on this famous tee? |-----*> Phlow Low Jim ------------------------------ From: DarkStar6@aol.com Subject: LIVE ARU Reply-To: DarkStar6@aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:54:07 GMT I'm in desperate need of some HQ Aquarium Rescue Unit w/ Col. Bruce. Have plenty to deal with:) |-----*> Phlow Low Jim ------------------------------ From: Mango Mike Subject: Looking for SBD traders Reply-To: mlbalist@students.wisc.edu Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 00:08:14 GMT Phellow phriends, I have all low gen SBD's I'm willing to trade. Send a list to me and we'll work something out. A lot of tapes are pre-93 (enc. '86-'89 shows). Hope I can help ;) Always lookin' for Floyd... MaNgO MiKe "Your hands and feet are mangos, Your gonna be a genius anyway." ------------------------------ From: jfrank@riker.neoucom.edu (Jason Frankhouser) Subject: Re: Phish is Not Akoostik Hookah Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 20:35:32 GMT STEWARTR@hws.edu wrote: : I promise all of you that phish is not playing under the name akoostik hookah. : I saw Akoostik hookah in Ithaca, NY a few weeks ago. They are good, they seem : to have a strong Allman Brothers influence. They are from Ohio. Check them outbut don't be silly. : -ryan stewart ekoostik hookah, well the jamming is way more important than the spelling, anyone who wants info email me i have a schedule etc....... jason -- <>< , rastaman live up!! "must i lay it low, in a room full of strangers ><>', when i'm thinking, thining like to make some dangers" ><>' '<>< ><>'"<>< honest tune with a lingering lead WSP Jfrank@riker.neoucom.edu take some time, find some ekoostik hookah ------------------------------ From: dsg119@psu.edu (Gordo) Subject: Re: re: BAD TRADER! "****QUICK, EASY, TRADE...." Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:41:51 GMT >okay, everybody. important: >******************************************************* > BRAD KRAFT IS MOVING. >******************************************************* >sorry for the shouting, but i see more and more people flaming brad for not >sending tapes. So, once again, > BRAD KRAFT IS MOVING. >and, according to a recent post (the posters name escapes me) he has not >logged on to his server since jan. 25. anyone who is anxious for tapes, be >patient, and give him a break. >peace >ian I don't care if he is moving. He arranged these trades in EARLY DECEMBER. 2 months ago. He told us he would use 2-day delivery. He should have had the tapes made when he made the offer. Even if he didn't, does it really take 2 months to make one tape. If he was moving, when would he set up a ton of trades? The whole situation is just stupid, and he screwed a lot of people over. I would be satisfied if my tapes do come in the future, but still, he totally deceived a lot of people making us think it would be a "QUICK, EASY, TRADE" as he advertised. -Gordo ------------------------------ From: erjanus@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (ERIK R. JANUS) Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Date: 14 Feb 1995 18:06:03 GMT In article , wrote: > Ok, I know I am new, and I hope this is not flame worthy, > but I am glad that Rolling Stone said what they did about > Phish. I mean really, do we want them to go mainstream? I > know that they won't, but they don't need any help from RS. Actually, I would say they already ARE mainstream. They did play Letterman, not that that MAKES them mainstream, but face it, they are a LOT more popular than they were in 1992, let's say. > As far as I am concerned, RS is just a hyped up version of > what it used to be. Really, do we care? If you love Phish, > you will alway love Phish, that is just it. If someone else > doesn't like them, they are just ignorant. Well, there is certainly no need for name-calling just because someone does NOT like Phish. Personally, I do not care for RS in general and will always love Phish (unless they do a Pepsi commercial ;-) > Would you like to see Phish in a stadium? That would suck. In fact, I > wish less people liked them, so that they would play bars. > I would much rather like to see them on a small venue then a > huge one. I think we should let RS think whatever they > want to think, and hope no one gets interested, then we can > have Phish all to ourselves.. > Fact #1: Trey did say that they would never play in a venue larger than Madison Square Garden. (It remains to be seen if that will actually happen.) Fact #2: I think it is a fairly safe bet that they will no longer do bars unless it is in Bora Bora. There might be some spots in the US (or overseas) where they could get away with it, certainly not in the East... Why are you so afraid of other people liking Phish? Stretch ------------------------------ From: David Leonard Goss Subject: phish in muppet costumes Reply-To: gossdavi@student.msu.edu Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:17:27 GMT I just read the other day that if someone asked who was who in phish (from a picture) that you could say Trey has been likened to Kermit the Frog (with facial hair), Page has been likened to Fozzy the Bear, Fish has been likened to Animal, and Mike has been likened to Sam the Eagle. I think it would be funny if phish had a show and they all came out in the costumes of the Muppet they each resemble. Or if they ever came out with a video (i mean another one - i haven't seen Down With Disease yet) to wear Muppet costumes while they play their instruments. Uh huh huh - that'd be cool. Peace, Poop ------------------------------ From: carlosm7@aol.com (CarlosM7) Subject: Re: Video trades.... Date: 14 Feb 1995 15:51:31 -0500 Reply-To: carlosm7@aol.com (CarlosM7) Hey, I have a good quality copy of an opening set of Phish with Santana. Also, I have an alright copy of a show in 91. E-mail back if interested. CarlosM7@aol.com ------------------------------ From: sabbett@aol.com (SAbbett) Subject: *****TAPE TRADERS?***** Date: 14 Feb 1995 15:51:38 -0500 Reply-To: sabbett@aol.com (SAbbett) I have a good amout of great phish tapes, and I need someone to trade tapes with. If you are interented e-mail me at Sabbett@aol.com -Scott (I also have dead tapes if you are interested) ------------------------------ From: sabbett@aol.com (SAbbett) Subject: Re: phish vs dead Date: 14 Feb 1995 15:52:34 -0500 Reply-To: sabbett@aol.com (SAbbett) I totally agree with you they are both totally different, but they are both also amazing. ------------------------------ From: ERNEST S ENSIGN Subject: Acoustic Junction Reply-To: esensi01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:31:43 GMT I am looking for tapes of Acoustic Junction...I would rather have it on DAT but if there are some HQ analogs out there I will consider those...I have some to trade...let me know.. ------------------------------ From: JENNIFLOWERS Subject: Re: Newbie tape offer!!!! Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:57:18 -0500 i have no tapes but i would love to get them . i know i'm probably a bit late ------------------------------ From: STEPHRL@student.lfc.edu Subject: subscribe Reply-To: STEPHRL@student.lfc.edu Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:52:25 GMT subscribe ------------------------------ úÿ (continued next message) -- END OF MESSAGE --