TELECOM Digest Tue, 6 Dec 94 11:08:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 438 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Philadelphia Police 911 Call Transcript (rec.radio.scanner via Steve Brack) Bell Canada Rate Changes (Bell Canada News via Dave Sellers) PacBell Not Aiming to "Please" (David Leibold) Who is SRX in Plano Texas? (John Einstoss) Articles on 800 Pay Services and Cordless Phones (Danny Burstein) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and America On Line. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. Subscriptions are available at no charge to qualified organizations and individual readers. 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According to published accounts, the speed of response to citizens' repeated calls to 911 is being held partly to blame for his death. Presented as read on rec.radio.scanner. Thanks to scan911@aol.com for posting this transcription. Steven S. Brack sbrack@eng.utoledo.edu Toledo, OH 43613-1605 sbrack@cse.utoledo.edu Tel: +1 419 534 7349 ======================================= From: scan911@aol.com (SCAN911) Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner Subject: Philly POLICE 911 call transcripts Date: 3 Dec 1994 14:15:04 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Here's a transcript of the now-famous Philadelphia Police 911 calls in which dispatchers were cited as rude. The rudeness is at 10:44:23. Enjoy! Chuck Gysi, N2DUP SCAN911@aol.com 10:01:25 p.m. dispatcher: Police 225. Caller: Hi. I'm sorry to call you, but could you please send a car to the McDonald's at the corner of Hasbrook and Oxford? Dispatcher: On the corner of Hasbrook and where? Caller: Oxford. It's in Fox Chase. There are a pack of kids and they're really noisy. Dispatcher: Inside the McDonald's? Caller: They're in the parking lot. Dispatcher: OK, the McDonald's parking lot. Caller: Thanks so much. Dispatcher: You're welcome. Bye. 10:10:19 p.m. dispatcher: Police radio [inaudible. Caller:: Ah yes, I'm calling from the McDonald's at Fox Chase on Oxford Avenue. Dispatcher: Uh-huh. Caller: I have a bunch of kids in the parking lot and they just broke one of my customers' windows. Dispatcher: Where's the customer? Caller: She's out in the parking lot and she was going through the drive-through and they broke one of her windows. Dispatcher: Is she going to wait for the police? Caller: I'm sorry. Dispatcher: Is she going to wait for the police? Caller: Well, how long is it going to be? Dispatcher: I have no idea. Caller: Uhhh, I'll find out, but I imagine she would. She could fill out a report. OK. Dispatcher: Uh-huh. Caller: OK. Thank you. 10:13:58 p.m. Dispatcher: Police radio. May I help you? Montgomery County dispatcher: Hi, it's Montgomery County. We have a report of a disturbance at Borbeck and Oxford. Dispatcher: OK. On the highway? Montco dispatcher: On Borbeck. Dispatcher: On the street or inside somewhere ? Monaco dispatcher: Juveniles throwing rocks -- at the McDonald's. Dispatcher: At the McDonald's? Monaco dispatcher: Yeah, there's about 20 of them. Dispatcher: All right, we'll send somebody out there. 10:20:49 p.m. Caller: Could you send some police over here to 7979 Rockwell Avenue? About 50 kids are busting up cars [Inaudible] Dispatcher: What are they doing? Caller: Busting up the cars, windows and everything . . . 7979 Rockwell Avenue. Dispatcher: Uh-huh. Wait a minute. They are inside the lot? Caller: Yeah. Dispatcher: Teenagers? Caller: Yep. Dispatcher: About how many is there? Caller: About 50. Dispatcher: All righty. 10:33:58 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 232. Caller: Hi, this is the Oxford Avenue Pizza Hut. We have a gang of at least 50 young kids with bats outside beating each other, chasing each other. They Just ran behind the store. Dispatcher: How many have bats? Caller: About 10. Dispatcher: What hundred Oxford is? Caller: What hundred Oxford is this? 78. They are between our store and the McDonald's. Dispatcher: In the parking lot? Caller: Yep. Yes, in between both parking lots. Dispatcher: OK. Caller: Thank you. Dispatcher: You're welcome. 10:37:15 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 225. Caller: I don't believe this -- this rang about 10 times. There's a big commotion going on outside our home. Like a gang fight. Dispatcher: Where is that, ma'am? Caller: Ridgeway Street. 7900 Ridgeway Street. Dispatcher: OK.Caller: They got clubs out there. [It's a gang fight, says a male voice in the background.] There's a kid hurt out there. Dispatcher: All right. Caller: Did you get that? Dispatcher: Yeah, a kid is hurt outside and there's a fight. All right? Was that it? Caller: Yeah, that's it. Send a police car to Seven Dispatcher: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You asked me and I'm asking you. I have the information, you can hang up now. 10:37:34 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 244. Caller: Thank you. I'm calling from the Fox Chase section of the city. There seems to be a lot of gang fighting in front of my house. 7900 block of Ridgeway Street. It's just above the recreation center. A lot of screaming, yelling, and kids look like they are carrying clubs of some kind. They are in the middle of the street. Dispatcher: I'll send someone out. Caller: Thank you. 10:37:50 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 45. How can I help you ? Caller: Hi, I live across the street from the Fox Chase School and the playground and there is a tremendous amount of kids out there fighting and ... I'm afraid something's going to happen. Dispatcher: OK, Fox Chase playground. What's the address? Caller: Uh, it's, well, right now they're in front of Ridgeway and Rhawn in front of the school but they just keep growing and they keep talking about a fight ... Dispatcher: OK. Ridgeway and what's the other street you mentioned madam? Caller: Rhawn. Dispatcher: Oh, OK. We'll send somebody out. Caller: Hurry up because I don't know what's happening, there's a lot of screaming and yelling. Dispatcher: Yeah, OK. Bye-bye. 10:38:25 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 170. Caller: Hi, I'd like to report a disturbance . . . Dispatcher: Where? Caller: Ridgeway Street. Dispatcher: What and Ridgeway? Caller: 7940 Ridgeway Street. There's about 20 kids outside fighting. Dispatcher: We'll send somebody around. Caller: Thanks a lot. 10:41:01 p.m.. Dispatcher: Police radio. Caller: Yeah. Could you get a couple of cars over here, 7979 Rockwell Avenue. There's about 50 teenagers, baseball bats. A gang fight down in the complex between the Fox Chase playground and the auto body area. Dispatcher: 7979 Rockwell? Caller: Yeah. Dispatcher: We'll get somebody right over. 10:41:21 p.m. Dispatcher [alerting police officers]: 203 . . . 7845 Oxford at the Pizza Hut/McDonald's parking lot. Check for civil males all with baseball bats. 7845 Oxford. Parking lot McDonald's and Pizza Hut. There's no flash. Police: 28. Dispatcher: 28. Police: We'll swing by that location. 10:41:24 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 157. What's your problem? Caller: Yeah, I just want to let you know. I live across from the Fox Chase playground. Dispatcher: Yeah. Caller: And there's about 25 youths right now running around, yelling obscenities, yelling about niggers and everything else. They are running through people's yards and all. I don't know if something's going on tonight or not, but ... Dispatcher: Somebody will be there, sir. Caller: Thank you. 10:42:32 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 170. Caller: Hi, how ya doing. This is . . . I'm in Fox Chase and we've got a near riot and there's no damn police around. Dispatcher: Where? Where? Caller: On Ridgeway Street! Dispatcher: Well, I don't know that! Caller: We've been calling. Everybody in the neighborhood's been calling. I call the district, they tell me to call 911. What are we suppose to do here? There's cars. There's a whole damn convoy of cars coming up here. You got a damn riot goin' up here. Dispatcher: Police will be there. Caller: Yeah, huh. Thanks a lot 10:44:13 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 244 Caller: Yes. This is one of the sisters at St. Cecilia's Convent on Rhawn Street. There's a bunch of kids out in the parking lot and it looks like they are beating up one kid. Dispatcher: 500 Rhawn, madam? Caller: 525 Rhawn. Dispatcher: In the parking lot? Dispatcher: We'll send someone out. Caller: Thank you. 10:44:23 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 94 Caller: We're in Fox Chase on Ridge way Street. They are beating the hell out of people with baseball bats up here. When are you going to send somebody? Dispatcher: Who's got a bat, sir? Caller: Who got a bat? Some gorilla. What the hell do you mean? Dispatcher: Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Don't talk to me like that. I asked you a question. Dispatcher: Who's got the bat? Is he white, black or Hispanic? Caller: There's a man with a bat ... Tape ends. 10:44:37 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 232. Caller: Hello? Dispatcher: Police. Caller: [inaudible]. Dispatcher: Where? Dispatcher: This is at Rhawn and what? Caller: At Rhawn Street. St Cecilia. Dispatcher: OK, but that's Rhawn and what. What's the cross or what hundred block of Rhawn. Caller: It's St. Cecilia schoolyard. [Inaudible]. Dispatcher: Yeah, what hundred block of Rhawn Street is it on, sir. I can't hear you because there's something wrong with the phone. You're saying Rhawn, and it's by what? Caller: I'm trying to find a cross street ..... What street is this [caller speaks to someone in the background]? Dispatcher: Look at one of the buildings and tell me the address on it Caller: Yeah, it's on Rhawn and [inaudible]. Dispatcher: Rhawn and what? Look at one of the buildings and tell me the address on it. Caller: 500 Rhawn Street Dispatcher: 500? Caller: Rhawn Street. A [inaudible] just went by. Dispatcher: Where's he at? [Get an address, says another voice in radio room] Dispatcher: OK. 10:45:37 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 157. Caller: Hello? Dispatcher: Yes, police. Caller: My friend, my friend's bleeding. He's at [inaudiblel hospital. Dispatcher: He's what? Caller: He's at [inaudiblel hospital. Dispatcher: Slow down, he needs what at the hospital? Caller: I mean. [inaudible] He needs a hospital. He's bleeding. Dispatcher: Where's he at? Caller: He's at St. C's. At the church. Dispatcher: He's where? Caller: St. Cecilia's. Dispatcher: I can't understand you? Give me an address? Caller: He's at St. Cecilia's. Dispatcher: And where's that at? Caller: Oxford Avenue. Dispatcher: Oxford and what? Caller: It's like. Oh my god. Dispatcher: Listen, listen, if you don't calm down, he gets no help. Do you understand that much? Caller: I'm trying. Dispatcher: All right, so you gotta tell me. Oxford and where? Caller: Oh God. Do you know where Fox Chase School is? Dispatcher: No, I don't. Caller: OK, it's, it's Oxford Avenue and Verree. Dispatcher: Verree. All right, what happened to him? Caller: He got beat with a bat. Dispatcher: All right. Are the people that beat him still there? Caller: No! Dispatcher: Hold on. I'm gonna connect you with rescue, you tell them where he is. Caller: OK. Rescue: Rescue. Caller: [inaudible] got beat with a bat. He's at [inaudiblel church. Rescue: What? Caller: St. Cecilia's. Rescue: What's your address. What's the address. Where's it at? Caller: It's right across the street from the [inaudible] school, which is right by ... Rhawn. Rescue [to dispatcher]: Please, could you tell me where she's calling from? Dispatcher: She's calling from 501 Rhawn Street by the Free Library. Caller: Yeah, I'm at the Free Library, but ... is at St. Cecilia's Church. Dispatcher: She told me it was at Oxford and Verree, first. She can't seem to get it together. Rescue: Is that where St. Cecilia's is? Oxford and Verree? Caller: It's, it's . . . Where are you at? Dispatcher: Don't worry about where we're at. Tell them where you're at. Where you want him to go? Caller: [Inaudible] I don't know the two streets. Right now, I'm at the library, but St. Cecilia's at ... Rescue: How far are you away from it? Caller: He's at, I think he's at Rhawn and [inaudible] Street. Rescue: Rhawn and where? Caller: I think it's [inaudible, but I'm not sure. It's at St. Cecilia's Church. He's right in front of the church. Rescue: And what's wrong? What happened? Caller: He got beat with a bat. Rescue: He got beat with a bat? Caller: He's bleeding. Rescue: It's right near Rhawn and [inaudible.] Dispatcher: No, no. It's not a good cross street. She's probably talking about Rhawn and Verree. Caller: It's at St. Cecilia's Church. He's right at the church. Dispatcher: Rhawn and Verree is close to where she's calling from. Rescue: We're on the way. Caller: Thank you. 10:45:53 p.m. Police officer: 203. Dispatcher: 203. Police officer: Send rescue to the Seventh District side right at Rhawn úÿ and Ridgeway in front of a church. We've got a kid down. I think he was beat up. It could possibly have something to do with that Oxford Avenue thing. Dispatcher: You said Rhawn and Ridgeway? Police Officer: Correct. On the Seventh District side. [inaudible] rescue, please. Dispatcher: Thank you. 10:45:59 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 170. Caller: Hi, Could you send a car to Fox Chase Rec. Dispatcher: Where's that? Caller: Um. It's on, uh, Rockwell Avenue. There's a bunch of people in cars and they are coming out and beating people up. Dispatcher: OK. Caller: It's really bad. Can you hurry? Dispatcher: OK. 10:46:22 p.m. Dispatcher: Police 344. Caller: Hi. We're having a problem outside our house here. Dispatcher: What's your address. Caller: Ok. It's not on my street. It's at St. Cecilia's on Rhawn Street. In the rectory. In the schoolyard. Dispatcher: What's the address there? Caller: OK. 525 Rhawn Street. Dispatcher: 525 Rhawn? Caller: Right. Dispatcher: Is it R ... Caller: R-H-A-W-N! We've got kids they've beat up. And no one wants to help us! Dispatcher: I'm trying to help you madam. I have to first understand you. Caller: Rhawn. R as in robot. H as in health. A as in apple. W as in [inaudible] and N as in [inaudible]. Does that help? Dispatcher: Immensely. Now, can you continue? What's the problem there? Caller: We've been calling for 20 minutes now to get the cops up here and no one's come. Dispatcher: So, what, what's, what madam. Madam? Caller: I'm near the Fox Chase Rec. Dispatcher: Madam, what's going on out there? Caller: I've been telling you ... Dispatcher: You haven't told me what's going on? Caller: We have like a group of 50 kids out front, about. Dispatcher: Uh-huh. What are the kids doing, madam? Caller: Well, a few of them have golf clubs. And then this one little boy just came down and said to us someone's beating him up with a baseball bat. Dispatcher: We'll send the police, madam. Caller: Pardon me. Dispatcher: We will send the police. Caller: Send them now, not in 10 minutes, but now. Dispatcher: We will send the police, madam. Caller: Thank you. Do you know where it is? Dispatcher: You said 525 Rhawn madam. That's what you said, didn't you? Caller: Yes. Dispatcher: OK, that's where we're gonna send them. Caller: Thank you. Dispatcher: You're welcome. 10:46:32 p.m. Police: Have a rescue [inaudible] in and out of consciousness. Dispatcher: All right, 03. Rescue's in route. They got the message. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Dec 94 10:01:12 EST From: sellers@on.bell.ca (Dave Sellers) Subject: Bell Canada Rate Changes ----- Begin Included Message ----- Publication: News Release Community: COMM Article Subject: Bell Canada's prices are Author: Linda C. Gervais Issued: 94-12-01 Bell Canada's Prices Are Changing for Long Distance and Basic Local Service Ottawa, December 1, 1994 -- Come January 1, 1995, Bell Canada's residence and small business customers will be able to save even more on their long distance calling. Bell is introducing savings of up to 35 per cent, depending on when and where customers call. The decreases are included in a rate rebalancing proposal Bell and Canada's other telephone companies filed today with the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC). Along with January's long distance decreases, basic local service prices for all residence and many business customers will increase by $2 per month. Business customers in the local calling areas of Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa and Quebec will see no increase, because the prices they pay already cover Bell's costs of providing local service. This rate rebalancing proposal begins the process of moving long distance prices down and local prices up. It follows the CRTC's landmark regulatory framework decision (Decision 94-19) of September 16, 1994. In its decision, the CRTC said basic local rates should be increased so that long distance prices could be made more affordable for Canadians. It therefore ordered Bell and the other telephone companies to reduce long distance prices. Rate rebalancing is good news for the 97 per cent of Bell customers who place long distance calls. Even with the $2 monthly increase, the first general local rate increase in nearly 12 years, Bell customers will still pay among the lowest prices for basic service anywhere in the world. Today, more than 99 per cent of households in Ontario and Quebec have basic telephone service. In its decision, the CRTC reasoned that with basic telephone service now universally-available, long distance prices need to become more affordable. As Canadian families and friends spread across the country, they need to keep in touch, and long distance is no longer the luxury it was once thought to be. Long distance prices will be reduced as follows: Calls made to locations within Ontario and Quebec: Calls made to locations within Ontario and Quebec that are more than 65 kilometres (40 miles) away will be reduced by up to 13 per cent. Calls to the Rest of Canada and the U.S.: Calls made to locations outside Ontario and Quebec that are more than 90 km (56 miles) away will also be reduced by up to 13 per cent. Calls made to locations in the U.S. that are more than 176 km (110 miles) will be reduced by up to 11 per cent. Bell is also introducing a new Saturday discount of 35 per cent on calls to locations outside Ontario and Quebec, and to the U.S. As a result, all calls placed between 8 a.m. and 11 p.m. every Saturday and Sunday will be discounted by 35 per cent. The new reduced long distance prices will apply to our existing time-of-day discounts and to other Bell savings plans such as Real Plus(TM), so the price of long distance calling will be even lower. The new reductions will make calling during our discount periods even more attractive. Sample Price Savings: Weekday Calls 10-Minute Call Discount Period Current Price New Price Kingston-Ottawa none $3.70 $3.20 8 a.m. - 6 p.m. Oshawa-Detroit none $4.90 $4.50 8 a.m. - 6 p.m. Oakville-Ottawa none $3.80 $3.40 8 a.m.- 6 p.m.. Toronto-Vancouver 35% $3.12 $2.80 6 p.m. - 11 p.m. Sherbrooke-Miami 35% $3.58 $3.19 6 p.m. - 11 p.m. Laval-Fredericton 60% $1.76 $1.56 11 p.m. - 8 a.m. Hamilton-New York 60% $2.12 $1.88 11 p.m. - 8 a.m. Weekend Calls: 10-Minute Call Discount Period Current Price New Price Toronto-Halifax 35% $2.99 $2.67 6 p.m. - 11 p.m. Sherbrooke-Miami new, Sat. at 35% $5.50 $3.19 8 a.m. - 6 p.m. Hamilton-New York new, Sat. at 35% $5.30 $3.06 8 a.m. - 6 p.m. St. Jovite-Winnipeg new, Sat. at 35% $4.60 $2.67 8 a.m. - 6 p.m. London-Toronto 60% $1.48 $1.32 11 p.m. - 8 a.m. Chicoutimi-Quebec 60% $1.48 $1.32 11 p.m. - 8 a.m. Bell Canada, the largest Canadian telecommunications operating company, markets a full range of state-of-the-art products and services to more than seven million business and residence customers in Ontario and Quebec. Bell Canada is a member of Stentor -- an alliance of Canada's major telecommunications companies. For more information, please call: Linda Gervais Susanna Cluff-Clyburne Bell Canada Public Affairs Bell Canada Public Affairs (613) 781-3724 (613) 785-0579 (613) 825-4460 (613) 445-3984 Sandra Cruickshanks Bell Ontario Public Affairs (416) 581-4205 (416) 537-7182 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 01:20:01 EST From: David Leibold Subject: PacBell Not Aiming to "Please" An article by Richard Heft for {The Toronto Star} (19 Nov 94) entitled "Pulling the plug on telephone politeness" refers to Pacific Bell's decision to have their directory assistance operators remove the word "please" from their greeting. That is, the operator would answer something like "Hi, I'm xxxx, what city?" (where the xxxx is a name, which is likely a pseudonym). The old greeting went something like "This is operator ###, what city, please?". Seems some critics, including Judith "Miss Manners" Martin, don't like PacBell's triumph of efficiency over politeness. PacBell, meanwhile, claims the new please-less greeting saves $5M/year and 0.5 seconds per call, to keep the entire greeting within a 1.2 second limit. Yet, the current average call times are slightly longer (19.6 sec, versus the previous 19.35 sec). The article writer mentioned one unidentified operator who mentioned that PacBell doesn't want anyone talking about the matter. Unfortunately, the context of the article didn't indicate whether the operator was being interviewed while on a directory assistance call, or while off work. This situation is on top of reported performance quota requirements. David Leibold aa070@freenet.toronto.on.ca [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Actually, overall the operators are saying a lot more in greeting than they used to say many years ago. Long, long ago, the 'greeting' was simply "number please?" when they first answered you, and "operator" if you flashed for them to return to the line at some point in the call. And then, the word 'operator' frequently came out in a smashed-together blur as 'opter' with the two middle syllables missing. It has only been in the past ten or fifteen years that a more detailed greeting including name -- albeit phone name, rarely real name -- and/or operator number was included. Strange in a way, effeciency has been replaced by courteous greeting. The old time operators were super fast and effecient; you never had to ask them twice or repeat anything. They were like human switches or robots. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jeinstos@netcom.com (John Einstoss) Subject: Who is SRX in Plano Texas? Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1994 03:45:39 GMT I haven't been around PBX's for about five years. Who is SRX (Shared Resources Exchange) out of Plano Texas? Their product is SRX Vision. It is distributed locally here in the Bay Area by VoicePro. Can anyone inform me? I am researching this for a potential buyer (60 lines and growing). Thanks. jeinstos@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) Subject: Articles on 800 Pay Services and Cordless Phones Date: 6 Dec 1994 10:33:14 -0500 The December 1994 issue of {Consumer Reports} has some articles of special interest to the telecom crowd. First is a piece on how 800 phone calls may generate a charge. (Everyone in this group knows the deal, but it's interesting to see how a mainstream consumer group reports it). Second is a survey/test of cordless phones. In short, Consumer Reports found that 10 channel 49 mhz units were better than 1 channel ones, and that (most) 900 mhz units had -much- better range than those on 49 mhz. They also gave a reasonable explanation of scrambling and other security methods (although, surprisingly, they didn't hve the Motorola phone). They also, for good measure, report on the different types of consumer batteries available and come to the unsurprising conclusion that just about all alkalines are alike and you should buy based on price. (They also compare ni-cads, the new Rayovac Renewals, lithium cells, and even analyze the "Buddy-L" recharger.) danny dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com) ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V14 #438 ******************************