TELECOM Digest Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:32:00 CST Volume 15 : Issue 115 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Book Review: "Global Network Operations" by Malamud et al (Rob Slade) Canadian Publisher Southam Links With U.S.-Based Prodigy (Dave Leibold) You Can't Dial City Hall? (Dave Leibold) Australian Government Multimedia Forum March 1995 (Tom Worthington) Last Call: IJCAI'95 Workshop on Executable Temporal Logics (Mehmet Orgun) Wireless Telephone Seminar (Jerome Kaufman) Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received (Jeff Regan) Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received (John C. Fowler) Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received (Paul Wallich) Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received (Danny Burstein) Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number (Mark Brader) Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number (Stanley Ulbrych) Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number (Moritz Farbstein) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:15:39 EST From: Rob Slade Subject: Book Review: "Global Network Operations" by Malamud et al CSGLNTOP.RVW 950126 "Global Network Operations", Malamud/Carpenter/Stockman/O'Dell/Huston, 1-56592- 993-4, U$16.95 %A Carl Malamud carl@malamud.com %A Brian Carpenter %A Bernhard Stockman %A Mike O'Dell %A Geoff Huston %C 103 Morris Street, Suite A, Sebastopol, CA 95472 %D 1993? %E Carl Malamud carl@malamud.com %G 1-56592-993-4 %I O'Reilly & Associates, Inc./ORAudio %O U$16.95 800-998-9938 707-829-0515 fax: 707-829-0104 audio@ora.com %P 120 min. %S Geek of the Week %T "Global Network Operations" These four interviews, conducted between March and November of 1993, present representatives of CERN, the European EBONE backbone UUNET and the Australian Academic Research Network (AARNET). (I must say that I have to sympathise with Malamud in the interview with Bernhard Stockman. Initially, Stockman obviously is embarrassed and resistant to say "what everyone knows". The interview is worth it -- the later part of the tape puts out fascinating ideas on the sociology of committees.) As well as looking at networks in large portions of the globe (and places outside of the US), a fairly common theme to all of these talks is surmise about the future directions of network governing bodies. Do the ISO and CCITT work, given rapidly moving technologies? Can the Internet Society and IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) continue as volunteer organizations? copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995 CSGLNTOP.RVW 950126. Distribution permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest. Vancouver ROBERTS@decus.ca Institute for Robert_Slade@sfu.ca Research into rslade@cue.bc.ca User p1@CyberStore.ca Security Canada V7K 2G6 ------------------------------ From: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold) Date: 21 Feb 95 22:00:23 -0500 Subject: Canadian Publisher Southam Links With U.S.-Based Prodigy Organization: Gateway: [from Bell News (Bell Canada), 20 Feb 95] Publisher to launch on-line newspaper service Southam Inc., publisher of 17 daily newspapers across Canada, plans to launch a national on-line computer service offering its daily newspapers in a joint venture with U.S.-based Prodigy Services Co. Consumers will have access to Southam's newspapers and their archives, as well as electronic banking, brokerage services and advertising. Service will begin in 1996. Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730 Internet: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org ------------------------------ From: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org (Dave Leibold) Date: 21 Feb 95 22:19:05 -0500 Subject: You Can't Dial City Hall? The 8 Feb 95 edition of {Etobicoke Life} (a Metro Toronto community paper) reports of wayward phone connections that lost 10,000 callers. Those phoning the City of Etobicoke municipal offices were often left in "electronic ether" in the form of dropped or incomplete calls. Etobicoke's Commissioner of Administrative Services stated that the phone system was "overloaded", with calls from citizens regarding an interim tax billing blamed as the cause. While a $10,000 call queueing system installation is expected this summer, Etobicoke city staff is reportedly working with Bell Canada to avoid a repeat of that lost caller feeling. Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730 Internet: Dave.Leibold@superctl.tor250.org [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I am reminded of the tunnel flood here a few years ago when the Chicago River started backing up into basements all over downtown, including City Hall. In addition to the unusually high volume of calls to the city's public information phone lines from very concerned citizens wondering about the extent of the flooding (the source of the 'leak', a collapsed wall in one of the abandoned underground tunnels had not been located) and what they could/should do to save their possessions and themselves (for example, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra was in Europe at the time; staff members left in Chicago frantically went through basement storage areas retrieving instruments, musical manuscripts and other things, hauling it all upstairs to safe ground when they heard the flood was on its way to them; staff members at the Art Institute dropped everything and converged on their basement to begin rapidly hauling everything upstairs to safety; fortunatly neither institution was harmed in any way) -- in addition to the massive flood of calls to City Hall, overloading the phone system there -- the City Hall itself did have extensive damage in its second and third sub-basement where the old tunnel system connects in, putting all their telephone lines under water by mid-afternoon that day, along with completely submerging the Commonwealth Edison electrical sub-station located in the third sub- basement. Knowing for a certainty that City Hall would be 'offline' in a matter of an hour or two at the most (they could see the rising water in the tunnel branch near them) telco employees rushed to re-route the lines elsewhere. About 2 PM I was able to get through; the woman told me 'we will be staying until our lines go dead or until they evacuate us and make us leave' ... shortly after that calls to any 312-744 number (the city hall centrex) were greeted with dead silence. Just a click as my central office handed off the call, then nothing. Within 45 minutes however, they were ringing again, and the information ladies were on duty, having been evacuated to the Chicago Temple Building which is right across the street from City Hall. The Fire Department Central Alarm office which is also in City Hall had been offline for a few minutes also; telco got them re-established first then did the information lines followed by the general centrex operators. The information lines stayed open around the clock for the next several days (although the source of the 'leak' was discovered by mid-afternoon it would be several days before tons of dry cement-mix and other stuff dumped into the river above the opening would successfully seal the opening; it was on Sunday morning about 10 AM six days later that Mayor Daley came on our televisions along with engineers working for the city to announce that 'we have successfully plugged the leak, and underwater divers are down there now looking to make sure it is plugged') and they later reported handling about a hundred thousand flood related inquiry calls from all over the world over a five day period. PAT] ------------------------------ From: tomw@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Tom Worthington) Subject: Australian Government Multimedia Forum March 1995 Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:18:21 GMT _"Government Support for a _Creative Nation"__ * Sydney 8 March 1995 * Adelaide 14 March 1995 * Perth 16 March 1995 * Melbourne 21 March 1995 * Brisbane 23 March 1995 * Canberra 28 March 1995 Department of Industry, Science and Technology Department of Communications Background As part of the Commonwealth Government's cultural policy statement Creative Nation, a series of multimedia initiatives are being undertaken to place Australia as a world leader in media services through the production of content - an essential element of the new communication services. The package seeks to create a dynamic multimedia industry producing Australian content for Australian and international consumers, as well as providing a stimulus for increased access to cultural material by the community. The Multimedia Forums will be a major source of information about developments in multimedia and will facilitate the establishment of close and productive linkages between the cultural community and industry. These will enable Australia to better develop and commercialise interactive multimedia products and services. The Forums The forums will be accessible to a broad range of stakeholders, flexible in content and responsive to the needs of the sector. The Forums will consider critical technical and commercial issues such as best practice, intellectual property rights, finance, the requirements for market success, and the development of multimedia titles. Forums will be able to focus on topical issues which Government, the cultural community or industry believe need to be addressed, including for example, the Final Report of the Broadband Services Expert Group and the Innovation Statement. Forum One Forum One is a one day event which will be repeated in major capital cities (see Schedule) and will provide an update on the Creative Nation initiatives, including discussion on the implementation of these initiatives and information on when and how people can participate in programs and gain government support. There will be ample time for questions and answers. "An essential forum for anyone with an interest in multimedia as a business, a creative endeavour or for export" _Peter Cook - Michael Lee_ This forum will provide the opportunity to meld the interests and efforts of business, the cultural community, technologists, educators and the legal profession. Participants will be able to influence the future content, structure and orientation of the Forums Program. For more details see: http://acslink.net.au/~tomw/mm1.html or contact: _Multimedia Forum Secretariat_ PO Box 3683, Weston ACT 2611, Australia Phone: +61 6 2411325 A/H: +61 6 2882884 Fax: +61 6 2411975 Internet: NATCMS@ozemail.com.au Posted as a community service by Tom Worthington, Director of the Community Affairs Board, Australian Computer Society Inc. G.P.O. Box 446, Canberra A.C.T. 2601, Australia E-mail: tomw@acslink.net.au Home page: http://www.acslink.net.au/~tomw/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 16:33:53 +1100 From: mehmet@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Mehmet Orgun) Subject: Last CallL: IJCAI'95 Workshop on Executable Temporal Logics LAST CALL FOR PAPERS AND PARTICIPATION Workshop on Executable Temporal Logics to be held as part of IJCAI-95 Montreal, Canada. 19th, 20th or 21st August 1995 INTRODUCTION The direct execution of logical statements, through languages such as Prolog, has been influential within both Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence. Such languages have been used not only for applications such as the animation of logical specifications, the characterisation of database queries and knowledge representation, but also as high-level programming languages in their own right. In recent years, however, the requirement for greater expressive power has meant that languages based on first-order logic have been found wanting. In particular, since the concept of time is important in an increasingly wide range of applications, including the representation of time-dependent data and the specification and verification of concurrent and distributed systems, logics where temporal notions are central are beginning to be applied in these areas. Not surprisingly, executable forms of these temporal logics have been proposed in order to provide system developers with access to more appropriate logical techniques. Just as the development of sophisticated theorem-proving techniques for first-order logic led to executable forms, such as Prolog, so theorem-proving techniques for temporal logics are being used in the development of executable forms of these logics. However, each particular executable temporal logic combines not only a logical perspective, but also an operational model, drawn from its intended application areas. Thus a wide range of languages have appeared, exhibiting a variety of characteristics and execution mechanisms. Consequently, these languages have a wide range of application areas, including temporal databases, temporal planning, animation of temporal specifications, hardware simulation, and distributed AI. WORKSHOP AIMS The aim of this workshop is to provide a forum both for the exchange of ideas and for the identification of the potential roles and nature of the emerging paradigm of Executable Temporal Logics. Our aim is that the workshop will bring together workers in this area, to identify common ground, differing approaches, experiences, applications, open problems and possible future developments. In particular, we wish to encourage cross-fertilisation between different approaches. WORKSHOP FORMAT This workshop will build upon the success of the 1993 Workshop on Executable Modal and Temporal Logics that we organised as part of IJCAI-93, the proceedings of which are published by Springer-Verlag in the Lecture Notes in Artificial Intelligence series (vol. 897). The workshop will last for one day, and will consist of presented papers, group discussions and invited talks. We intend that the workshop will cover topics ranging from considerations of the state of the art, through to speculation on future developments. We will therefore solicit papers describing work in this area, including original ideas, new results, comparative studies and applications of Executable Temporal Logics. AREAS OF INTEREST Topics of interest include, but are not limited to, * theoretical issues in executable temporal logics * design of executable temporal logics * relationship between execution and temporal theorem-proving * operational models and implementation techniques * programming support and environments * comparative studies of languages * relationship of executable temporal logics to (temporal) databases * applications and case studies WORKSHOP PARTICIPATION To encourage informal interaction and the exchange of ideas, attendance will be limited to approximately 30 invited participants. Those wishing to attend are encouraged to submit either (a) an extended abstract (of no more than 5000 words) describing relevant preliminary or completed work to be presented at the workshop, or, úÿ (b) single page descriptions of research interests and current work, to be used to demonstrate the ability of the non-presenting participants to contribute to the discussions. Selected participants will be asked to provide complete papers to be distributed as preprints to the workshop participants. SUBMISSION DETAILS All submissions should include: author's name(s), affiliation, (complete) mailing address, phone and fax number, e-mail address and an abstract of not more than 300 words. Electronic submission is strongly encouraged (either as self-contained LaTeX, or postscript) and this, or five (5) copies of submitted papers should be sent, by March 1st 1995, to: Michael Fisher Department of Computing Manchester Metropolitan University Chester Street Manchester M1 5GD United Kingdom Email: M.Fisher@doc.mmu.ac.uk Telephone: (+44) 61-247-1488 Fax: (+44) 61-247-1483 Papers will be refereed and notification of acceptance will be given by April 1st. Authors of accepted papers will be given the opportunity to revise their papers prior to the production of the workshop notes (due May 1st). Important Dates: Submissions received by: March 1st, 1995 Author notification by: April 1st, 1995 Revised papers due: May 1st, 1995 Copies of accepted papers will be provided as a pre-proceedings at the workshop itself. Information about the workshop, together with abstracts of accepted papers, will be available via the WWW page: http://www.doc.mmu.ac.uk/RESEARCH/extol95.html PUBLICATION The 1993 IJCAI Workshop on Executable Modal and Temporal Logics is published by Springer-Verlag as a volume in the Lecture Notes in Artificial Intelligence series. Our intention is to again publish polished versions of papers from the workshop proceedings. Selected papers may also be considered for publication in a special issue of either the Journal of Logic and Computation or the Journal of Applied Non-Classical Logics. WORKSHOP PROGRAMME COMMITTEE Michael Fisher [Organiser] (details as above) Marianne Baudinet Universite Libre de Bruxelles Informatique, C.P. 165 50 Avenue F.D. Roosevelt 1050 Brussels, Belgium Email: mb@cs.ulb.ac.be Christoph Brzoska SFB 314 University of Karlsruhe P.O.Box 69 80 D - 76128 Karlsruhe 1, Germany Email: brzoska@ira.uka.de Shinji Kono Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc. Japan Email: kono@csl.sony.co.jp Ben Moszkowski Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering University of Newcastle Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU, U.K. Email: Ben.Moszkowski@ncl.ac.uk Mehmet Orgun Department of Computing Macquarie University Sydney NSW 2109, Australia Email: mehmet@mpce.mq.edu.au N.B., All workshop participants will be required to register for the **** main conference. NO ATTENDANCE TO A WORKSHOP WILL BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT REGISTRATION TO IJCAI. Information about IJCAI-95 can be accessed via the IJCAI home page: http://ijcai.org/ ------------------------------ From: TZAH81A@prodigy.com (Jerome Kaufman) Subject: Wireless Telephone Seminar Date: 22 Feb 1995 04:48:29 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Wireless Business Telephone Systems Seminar An in-depth, educational seminar for telecommunications professionals who need to understand the applications, benefits and limitations of: On-premises PCS, Wireless PBXs and In-Building Cellular systems. 1995 will witness the most fundamental change in business communications since the introduction of the electromechanical telephone system. Nearly every provider of PBX, Centrex, Key system, Cellular and PCS systems and services is expected to offer a wireless telephone system to address business user s need for on- premises wireless communications. Incorporating In-Building Cellular, Unlicensed PCS and Wireless PBX, these new wireless telephone systems will usher in the era of Personal Communications Services and mark the end of traditional, fixed location, desktop telephone systems used by every business in the U.S. The Wireless Business Telephone Systems 95 seminar has been designed to help both vendors and users make the right business decisions about these new wireless telephone systems. The two day Wireless Business Telephone Systems 95 seminars will be taught by Jerry Kaufman, President of Alexander Resources. Mr. Kaufman is an internationally recognized expert on wireless communications and the foremost authority on wireless telephone systems. Alexander Resources is a management and market research consulting firm specializing in telecommunications. Name of Seminar: Wireless Business Telephone Systems 95 Seminar locations: Anaheim, Atlanta, Bellevue, Boca Raton, Boston, Chicago, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Kansas City, Minneapolis, Orlando, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Diego, San Francisco, Scottsdale, St. Louis, Vancouver and Washington, D.C. Dates: February through August 1995 Presented by: Alexander Resources Telephone: 800-948-8225 Fax: 602-948-1081 Contact: Carole Kaufman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 18:34:04 EST From: Jeff Regan Subject: Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received D.J Martin reported some odd ball ring backs and recordings on his answering machine ... here is my two cents: In many DMS100 settings, if someone calls in to the answering machine and hangs up but just as the machine was about to take the incoming message, the ans.machine probably won't see the milisecond open circuit that the DMS provides it to tell it to hang up. What can happen then is that the DMS gives dialtone, then the 'please hang up and try your call again' recording comes on... of course the machine faithfully records this. That can be solved by having the DMS wait 30 seconds (in silence) before it gives the recording, but after it put the dialtone on the line and timed out. If you forget about a call put on call waiting, the switch will remind you that you forgot about it by calling you back, but that does not seem to apply to your 20 minute later notice. One other note, cordless phones when they get interference, if they don't have a security code on them, they can randomly pulse the line ... causing any sort of number to be dialed, or cause answering machines to think there is an incoming call ... that means the machine could record any number of things that are just happening to occur on the line at that time because of the cordless going on and offhook rapidly. On that same note, a little far fetched, if the cordless has your cell number programmed into it, and its stored in the base, not the handset, then it could be triggered to dial that number while this interference is occuring. Good luck! Jeff Regan Internet: JEREGAN@FLASH.LAKEHEADU.CA Ham Packet: VE3XJR@VE3MGQ.#SWO.ON.CAN.NA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:25 EST From: John C. Fowler <0003513813@mcimail.com> Subject: Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received In TELECOM Digest Volume 15, Issue 113, D.J. Martin wrote that he was receiving strange messages on his answering machine (such as outgoing intercepts and live operators) and that once he even answered his cellular phone only to hear his home answering machine. Pat attributed it to pranksters with three-way calling. I just wanted to point out that these kinds of things can happen even when someone isn't trying to play a joke on you. It happens innocently if the caller is behind a PBX with a call transfer function activated by flashing, dialing a number, and hanging up. How is this innocent? Think of this situation: Caller dials D.J. at home and gets his answering machine. "Darn, he's not at home, but wait, I know his cellular number, so I'll see if I can reach him there!" Caller pushes the switchhook with his finger, so that he thinks he hung up on the answering machine. In fact, he didn't wait long enough, and the PBX thinks it was a flash, so it puts the answering machine on hold. Caller dials D.J.'s cellular phone, but just then, the boss walks in, so caller hangs up just as D.J. answers. PBX transfers D.J.'s answering machine to D.J. Yes, this does happen! It happened to my office-mate at my previous employer, who once had the pleasure of receiving a voice mail message from his home answering machine. John C. Fowler, 3513813@mcimail.com ------------------------------ From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) Subject: Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received Date: 22 Feb 1995 11:28:35 -0500 Organization: Trivializers R Us In Philip D Martin 45-904-368-8859 3106 writes: > Scenario: A person pushes the play button of their answering machine > and has a message "the number you have dialed cannot be completed as > dialed. You must use a zero or one." This is an outgoing call > message. Or they have a message of a operator asking if they can help > them. Operators do not call people to assist them. Although both > cases appear as an incoming message, no call was made from the > location. and TELECOM Digest Editor noted: > We've touched on this topic from time to time, and one of the most > common reasons for the scenario you describe is that pranksters with > three-way (or more) calling like to hook together strangers at random > just to listen in amusement as the two (or more) called parties each > angrily accuse the other(s) of making the calls. There's one other possibility which comes to me after having listened to a few too many "please hang up and dial again" intercepts on a friend's answering machine: single-tape machines sometimes take more than a minute to fast-forward from the outgoing message to the point where they can start recording. If the caller has hung up during that time, of course, you'll get dialtone and eventually an intercept. However, some single-tape machines also play synthesize "musical hold" while zipping forward; I wonder if there's equipment somewhere (like the old women-and-voicemail problem) that could be trying to make sense of the musical-hold tones. Probably manufacturers have picked their frequencies to avoid this, but it's not entirely implausible. I'm just tossing this out for thought on bizarre feature interactions; Pat's hypothesis is far more likely. paul ------------------------------ From: dannyb@panix.com (danny burstein) Subject: Re: Peculiar Callbacks Received Date: 23 Feb 1995 11:42:15 -0500 A very possible answer to this problem: Does your cellular phone have an auto redial button? Of course it does. There's a good chance you hit it and called your home again. Note that this scenario is also a RISK. In addition to the costs and confusion involved, a subscriber to RISK DIGEST described how he had sat on his phone while at a confidential meeting and the next fifteen minutes of super-secret discussion were recorded on his answering machine. dannyb@panix.com (or dburstein@mcimail.com) ------------------------------ From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) Subject: Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 03:13:15 GMT CID Tech/INSG (dreuben@netcom.com) writes: > What I got was: " The number you have reached, 6 7 7 - 4 4 4 4, > is not a working number. It's prime factors are 2 and 3,387,2222 (or > something). Thank you". How bizarre: 3,387,222 is *not* a prime number. The actual prime factors of 6,774,444 are, of course, 2 (twice), 3 (twice), and 188,179. Mark Brader msb@sq.com SoftQuad Inc., Toronto ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number From: stanley.ulbrych@enest.com (STANLEY ULBRYCH) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:12:00 -0500 Organization: Eagle's Nest Communications, Inc. PVD, RI US 401-732- 5290 Reply-To: stanley.ulbrych@enest.com (STANLEY ULBRYCH) > Late one night last week, while trying to reprogram one of my own > 800 numbers, I accidentally dialed (800) 254-0133. > Today, just to convince myself that I did indeed hear that, I tried it > again, but this time got: The number you have reach, 677-4444 is not > is service ... Bucko!". I tried it myself, ( from East providence RI) Got "the number you reached is not in service ... bucko". Anyone any ideas who, what, where it is? stan@enest.com [Internet] 401-437-9448 (FAX) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: An answer was forthcoming, and I hope you find it interesting. See the final message in this issue. PAT] ------------------------------ From: moritz@il.us.swissbank.com (Moritz Farbstein) Subject: Re: Weird "Prime Number" and Other Messages 800 Number Reply-To: moritz@il.us.swissbank.com Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:21:48 GMT What you have reached here is a Wildfire extension. Wildfire is a voice-response electronic phone assistant. That particular extension had been allocated for Wildfire's use, but not assigned to a particular person yet. You can call 800-WILDFIRE for an automated demonstration of the system. You can also email support@wildfire.com or call them at 617-674-1500 for more information. Moritz Farbstein Swiss Bank Corporation, 4225 Naperville Road, Lisle IL 60532 Phone: (708) 955-6972 Fax: (708) 955-6929 ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V15 #115 ******************************